🕹・game-discussion

[haughty widget]

i know my guy

[stable glacier]

show us the deck

[stable glacier]

what happened to hello ? how are you ?

[lament bronze]

YOUR PILOTS CANT SEE THIS FAR DOWN GI, THEY WILL BOMB YOU, GI

[floral mural]

give full screenshots

pls

[pale wolf]

its not them

[lament bronze]

It's not them, they are just explaining

Anyways how much we betting the person actually did go for it

[pale wolf]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1440678854782877818

[lament bronze]

I'm betting my 7 of diamonds

[floral mural]

sorry

so uhh

[pale wolf]

handsize

hmmmmm

[floral mural]

this decision feels like usually juggler but maybe splash for chips

[stable glacier]

idk why youre telling me

[floral mural]

made a mistake sorry

[pale wolf]

yea id handsize myself

[lament bronze]

Juggler and use it for big hands, splash is a +30 at best

[stable glacier]

why does 👲 when you search skull in emojis on discord

[violet bear]

Black deck so id also say handsize

[pale wolf]

splash lets you get more chips on hands with shitty mult and juggler lets you get more hands with big mult

[lament bronze]

+40 at most but that implies you use a high card with 10 chips cards which atp

Not that much

[pale wolf]

well it would be a pair

[violet bear]

It makes pair a decent bit better

[pale wolf]

or a straight

[violet bear]

But that’s not enough in 3 hands

[lament bronze]

Yeah that's why I said 30, I meant to cover the possible best condition to avoid "Erm actually..."

[haughty widget]

can you imagine being the woman who got to expand the DSM5 on that track

[lament bronze]

At it's best (Helping a hand with low mult) it's a +30, just the upper ceiling is 40 if you somehow have a high card with 4 different 10 chip cards that don't repeat or make a straight

[pale wolf]

does seeing double really imply that you need two different cards
can a wild card truly be a scoring club and a scoring spade simultaneously

The game says yes

[lament bronze]

Same game that says one wild card does not help flowerpot btw

[tacit oasis]

Ok the synergy Canio + Pareidolia goes hard af

[violet bear]

Wait high wild card triggers seeing double?

[lament bronze]

What does Throwback think he's doing

[violet bear]

He’s throwing it back

[haughty widget]

canio my beloved

[lament bronze]

He's got the gold sticker so clearly can't be stickering as a cop out

[haughty widget]

i love how they make him metaphorically kill for boosts

it fits the character

[pale wolf]

I suspect that if seeing double was something like "contains a scoring club and diamond", a wild spade high card would not fulfill the requirements

[tacit oasis]

I skipped a lot of blinds to get mega arcanas to even feed canio even more with the pareidolia

[pale wolf]

its that the wild card counts as its base suit and an additional suit

[haughty widget]

so like madness is explicitly made viable by eternals right

[violet bear]

Ballsy, i like it

[haughty widget]

there's no real way to do a madness build on lower stakes?

[pale wolf]

you can, its just more expensive

[violet bear]

I think madness alone + planets win white scaling

[tacit oasis]

I mean there are jokerless runs, there can be a madness alone run too

[pale wolf]

terrible

[haughty widget]

jokerless sounds like hell

[red thistle]

Not really.

[tacit oasis]

Thanks, I like to live on the edge

[pale wolf]

you could get more money AND hangman AND other card removal by just playing the blinds out

[violet bear]

Well now think about doc doing it on black deck gold stake

[red thistle]

What if i don't like playing the game?

[pale wolf]

viva piñatas that way

[tacit oasis]

What if I have a crippling gambling addiction?

[pale wolf]

casinos that way

[violet bear]

Ante 1 mega arcana skip on magic deck for judgment

The ultimate gambling experience

It rolled me greenbo square man once

[hardy fable]

white you prob can, 100k is smol

haven't don't gs jokerless yet imma do that after 200%

[gusty maple]

This is gonna be a long night

[unreal iron]

tons and tons of planet scaling/enhancements

a solo madness on white stake is entirely possible and decently easy actually

so is everything on white stake tbf

also knowing you can take jokers in the boss blind is a decent plus but i dont think you'd need it that bad on white stake

[haughty widget]

how do you even mental math plasma deck

[white zodiac]

((chips+mult)/2)^2

[wintry ice]

(chips+mult)/2^2

egg emoji

[white zodiac]

or just eyeball your best scor-

[haughty widget]

plasma is deeply confusing to me

[manic talon]

Chips X mult but different

[wintry ice]

it is a lot weirder to play than other decks

[manic talon]

also kinda invalidates most +mult jokers in the game

thats a lot more jokers hit than green, checkered, or abandoned

[wintry ice]

actually plasma deck makes all jokers better!!

[white zodiac]

[vale shale]

Anyways.

I'm kinda going back playing balatro.

I'm having those kinds of moments where I just play a game, and I can't get myself to not play after.

[manic talon]

should make a deck that makes +chips jokers useless to balance it out

[vale shale]

I also started to watch roffle again.

[vale shale]

Thunk should remove blueprint for like 2 days in a joke version and watch chaos ensues.

And brainstorm

[wintry ice]

endless deck

[earnest pelican]

"Transition to xMult", they said

I think I'll just not

Finally got all gold stakes on mobile done, C+ twice

I'm not doing C++ again though lol

[wintry ice]

transition to girl instead

[earnest pelican]

I'll have the biggest girl WeeWee around

Jokes aside now what do I do

[buoyant fog]

guys wheres the mod chat

wasnt that a thing?

[earnest pelican]

Go to the roles options and choose modded balatro

[manic talon]

Its still here

[earnest pelican]

It should show up

[buoyant fog]

thank you 🙏

[manic talon]

Win streaks, modded balatro, white stake lobotomy, idk whatever you want

[wintry ice]

play a game balatro collaborated with

[vale shale]

Slay the spire

Is Gambonanza released now

[earnest pelican]

I have been meaning to try Slay the Spire

Yeah I'll do that today

[manic talon]

Like Rust

How did they got a rust collab, whats the connection there

[hollow temple]

Why isn’t erosion doing anything

[bronze tapir]

Do you put xmult or +mult first.

[wintry ice]

what's the connection with cyberpunk

[hollow temple]

What’s the connection with amogus

[wintry ice]

the game triggets jokers from left to right

so +mult first if you want ti score more

xmult first if you want to stall

[hollow temple]

That doesn’t make any sense

[bronze tapir]

What's the point of stalling? Shouldn't you just win for money payout

[hallow zenith]

Alr I did a few runs

And saw some streams of some ppl

[hollow temple]

Personally I don’t rearrange my jokers at all

[hallow zenith]

So I think I'm pretty good at this game

[wintry ice]

drawing high value cards and scaling jokers

[hallow zenith]

Y'all good btw?

[wintry ice]

trading 1$ to draw a blue seal is a very good idea for example

[hallow zenith]

Also isn't e304 like, pretty high

[wintry ice]

yea but only e4 away from naneinf

cba to try it again since it's very tedious

[bronze tapir]

I kinda struggle at winning black stake, any tips?

any recommended decks?

[wintry ice]

don't be afraid of taking an eternal that's useless lategame

and since bl*e stake is next

[manic talon]

Ya know what, fair

[wintry ice]

get used to pair spam

[hollow temple]

Y’all why isn’t erosion doing shit

[wintry ice]

it's unreliable to scale

[hallow zenith]

Isn't naneinf kinda hard

[manic talon]

54 cards in full deck

[hallow zenith]

Sorry I'm kinda new lol

[cloud sigil]

e308 is naneif?

[wintry ice]

yea you have to have actual decision making skills

[manic talon]

Erosion is not blue joker, it checks for you full deck always

[wintry ice]

yeah that's when the number variable in lua breaks

[cloud sigil]

yeah i'm never reaching that

[wintry ice]

it's boring to try to reach anyways

[cloud sigil]

me copying a naneinf seed to a T and i got dumbass e306

[hallow zenith]

Can't it just go like e309

[cloud sigil]

big number 🤤

[hallow zenith]

W pfp twin

[manic talon]

Half of naneinf is the shop and the other half is waiting for your cards to score

[hallow zenith]

Small number go up

[cloud sigil]

im twinning w my bf who's hornet:3

[hollow temple]

This shop sucks

[hallow zenith]

Omgg nicee!

[lunar zealot]

wtf is faceless delgrat ramen

[cloud sigil]

what if im a shopping addict who's patient

[tacit oasis]

I hate it when the invisible joker doesn’t cooperate

[hallow zenith]

Can you naneinf with flush five??

[manic talon]

Then play for naneinf i guess

[hollow temple]

No

[hallow zenith]

Damn it

[manic talon]

Yes, but you need perkeo, so not really

[hollow temple]

Oh

[hallow zenith]

What if you have like 2 tribs

[cloud sigil]

:3

[hollow temple]

Idk

[cloud sigil]

what's e87 + e87

[manic talon]

Thats not enough

[hallow zenith]

Damn 😔

[wintry ice]

2 tribs gets to like e50 or something with retriggers

[hallow zenith]

E87?

[cloud sigil]

yeah,,,

[wintry ice]

2e87

[hallow zenith]

Only? I've seen runs get 260 and more

[hollow temple]

E174?

[cloud sigil]

i hate my life

[hallow zenith]

Are you stupid 😔

[cloud sigil]

me i am

[wintry ice]

were they using observatory or bean bug

[hallow zenith]

Bean bug? Observatory?

What are these lol

[cloud sigil]

observatory is the constellation (celestial packs always have the hand u most use) upgraded voucher where if u have for example a pluto in your consumable area, it gives ur hand (if u play the respective hand aka a high card) 1.5x mult

[wintry ice]

bean bug is a bug that lets you get permanent handsize
observatory is a voucher that gives x1.5x for every planet of the played hand in consumable slots

[cloud sigil]

look at me im concise wow

[hallow zenith]

Ugh it's not THAT good without perkeo

[cloud sigil]

also how does the bean bug work

[hallow zenith]

How does that bug work lol

[hallow zenith]

Exactly

[wintry ice]

it gives you the difference in hand size when bean gets debuffed and you exit out

[hallow zenith]

From perishable??

[cloud sigil]

wait i love exiting out

[wintry ice]

crimson heart

[hallow zenith]

How

[wintry ice]

hold on

[hallow zenith]

Tf is a crimson heart? A joker

[cloud sigil]

an 8th ante boss blind

random joker gets disabled every hand played

[vale wharf]

Is it actually a good joker?

[hallow zenith]

So a final boss blind

[cloud sigil]

Yeah that

[hallow zenith]

I hate it

[narrow wadi]

top 3 for first shop imo

[wintry ice]

i suck at explaining it so

[hallow zenith]

Only pairs well with hack and/or abandoned

[hallow zenith]

You got a vid of the bug??

[wintry ice]

yea just don't play face cards

[narrow wadi]

not rly, it just scales rly fast if u do pairs, pairs with no face cards is easy af

[vale wharf]

I'm getting a very slow mult growth

[wintry ice]

https://youtu.be/lhaQILuY2TA?si=MCRKxnCUc7Mhmu1K this is 40 minutes long but it's what i found

[narrow wadi]

try to use max hands for early rounds to scale it, getting like +4 mult a round with very low downside is crazy

[hallow zenith]

It's like obelisk, it has a similar way it works

[white zodiac]

I uh

[cloud sigil]

bruh fuck obelisk

[vale wharf]

Yes yes, I'm play only pairs

[cloud sigil]

hell yeah

[narrow wadi]

tbf obelisk is much much harder to use optimally if u get it early- it's broken when it works but is a lot harder

[white zodiac]

I wish

[wintry ice]

planet levels are a much larger cost than just not playing face cards

[cloud sigil]

?

[hallow zenith]

It's not a low downside, losing your ability to use face cards is not good twin

[vale wharf]

I read it as obama

[hallow zenith]

0.2x is kinda low

[wintry ice]

if you have bus as your main source of scoring you won't want to spontaneously do photochad or something

[narrow wadi]

obelisk is fantastic but hard to use, rtb is fantastic and easy to use (obelisk prob better tho)

[hallow zenith]

Oh you're back

[cloud sinew]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1342112903070875741

[wintry ice]

0.8x per round (higher than madness) is slow apparently

[narrow wadi]

? a joker becomes good at x2, u can get this in 1 round

[manic talon]

0.2X per hand is not low

[vale wharf]

I misread it as obama*

[hallow zenith]

How?

[white zodiac]

have we met before

[hallow zenith]

Ohh

[cloud sigil]

how do u even properly use obelisk i hate that challenge run

[white zodiac]

.2 x 4

yeah

[cloud sinew]

Obelisk is not hard to use

[wintry ice]

what are face cards doing for you without face card jokers

[hallow zenith]

Having to change your hand every round is annoying

[manic talon]

what

[queen yew]

what’s the easiest deck for stakes (i have all except erratic)

[narrow wadi]

obelisk ante 1 is hard to use, the pivot point is difficult

[cloud sinew]

score*, also not a huge downside

[narrow wadi]

it's easy if u get it late

[white zodiac]

play pairs, play anything else, have hand agnostic scoring

[cloud sinew]

it absolutely isnt

[wintry ice]

you have to change your played hand to whatever the heck once

[narrow wadi]

i guess it's just me that finds it hard then

[wintry ice]

you go from playing pairs to playing literally anything you draw that isn't a pair

[narrow wadi]

i do think i'm allowed to find things difficult tbf

[cloud sigil]

hand WHAT

[hallow zenith]

If you don't wanna use the highest hand each time, you gotta change

[cloud sinew]

It's not just you, I'm just saying that it isn't hard

[narrow wadi]

and lots of people do

[undone laurel]

Aw man

[queen yew]

what’s the easiest deck for stakes (i have all except erratic)

[cloud sigil]

plasma >.<

[hallow zenith]

Oops all eternal

[frank crescent]

What's the joker i haven't found here

[white zodiac]

hand agnostic

[cloud sinew]

And you are! just that I hard disagree and that you don't understand how to properly use it if you think that way

[wintry ice]

scoring that doesn't depend on the hand type you play

[narrow wadi]

if lots of people find something difficult it is therefore difficult imo, u probably have a skill that i do not have which is pretty cool- but the fact that lots don't makes it hard

[manic talon]

why would you change every round tho, whats the concept there

[white zodiac]

do you know what that word means

[cloud sigil]

WHAT

[queen yew]

isn’t it commonly considered bad due to 2X sizes and faster scaling?

[hallow zenith]

To keep the xmult??

[white zodiac]

yeah lol

[cloud sinew]

for ante 8 purple+, yes

[narrow wadi]

i get that u just get pairs up to 14 then pivot, which is pretty easy, but in gold stake having an early brick joker is not very easy

[hallow zenith]

Also isn't bp objectively better than bs

[cloud sigil]

yeah but bc it balances then chipmaxxing is really fun

[white zodiac]

two scenarios where its not outright better but sure ig

[wintry ice]

the joker resets if you play the most played hand this game

[cloud sinew]

No

[hallow zenith]

Real

[hallow zenith]

Which are? Sorry I'm kinda new

[narrow wadi]

i feel like it is lol, i have brainstorm like A tier for gold stake and blueprint s+ tier

[manic talon]

you just need to stop playing your most played hand, you dont have to change every round

[wintry ice]

scaling +mult with xmult

[cloud sinew]

if brainstorm is poly Vs if blueprint is poly when copying +mult, for one

[white zodiac]

hex timing and acorn

that's about it

[hallow zenith]

True

[cloud sinew]

"objectively"

[hallow zenith]

Aw true

[cloud sigil]

bruh this seed sucks

[undone laurel]

It was fun while it lasted

[manic talon]

Brainstorm is easier to track (or doesnt need to be tracked) for Amber acorn

[cloud sigil]

how tf did that one person cryptidmax

[cloud sinew]

brainstorm is not always worse than blueprint

[wintry ice]

i understand brainstorm s tier and blueprint s+ tier

[vocal rose]

yas

[hallow zenith]

What if bs is on leftmost position in acorn

[wintry ice]

but they're not different enough to have that high of a gap between them

[narrow wadi]

in the one situation that u have no xmult and brainstorm is polychrome it is better, i am yet to find this though

[glad sequoia]

2nd time I got Trib on abandoned deck this week lmao

[icy hollow]

U hold the joker u want to copy

[wintry ice]

it's still scoring and econ in the same joker

[icy hollow]

And u put that on the left

Guarantees it gets copied

[wintry ice]

that's not what an A tier joker does

[white zodiac]

you can hold a joker and reposition it during the shuffle animation

[hallow zenith]

How do I hold it wdym

[icy hollow]

But yea, the scenarios where bs is better is do monimal 🤷‍♂️

[narrow wadi]

i find the not being able to optimally copy xmult when u have +mult pretty significant, i often sell it for better xmult in runs

[vocal rose]

with your hands

[hallow zenith]

Wait how

[cloud sinew]

Just because you have not encountered said scenario does not mean that it doesn't exist.
There does exist a scenario where brainstorm is better than blueprint, ergo it is not objective

[icy hollow]

When u select the blind. Just click snd hold a joker

[wintry ice]

being able to boost your economy and scoring at the same time is still something few jokers do

[narrow wadi]

tbf ur right, it might be a little pedantic but being pedantic can be very fun so i respect it

[white zodiac]

immediately upon selecting the boss blind you hold a joker right before it does the animation

[manic talon]

brainstorm is less work because you can just move the joker you want to copy leftmost, wit blueprint you need to move blueprint/the copied joker usually in between jokers

[narrow wadi]

true

[cloud sinew]

it's important to distinguish here when the phrasing is "objectively". if it was generally, then I would hard agree.

[narrow wadi]

fair

[undone laurel]

But that's why blueprint is better

[white zodiac]

what

[narrow wadi]

i get that pairs is optimal for erratic but i always try to force 4oak/ flush 5 if even luckier just cos i feel like that's the spirit of the deck

[manic talon]

please consult the graph
Less work = better joker

[icy hollow]

Thats why i always do straights on painted 🗣️ 🔥

[wintry ice]

straights are fun on painted

[dry remnant]

the photograph just never came

[manic talon]

BP BS copying a +mult, tragic

[dry remnant]

oh I'm so aware, it made my cry inside

[wintry ice]

could have used that for econ...

[dry remnant]

my econ was great

i just rolled down from 100 over 3 rounds

[narrow wadi]

is ur econ gold seals/ lucky cards or something?

[wintry ice]

actually you do have photochad

justice!!!

[dry remnant]

gold seal

[narrow wadi]

just saw that lol

[dry remnant]

and gold cards cuz i had midas mask

[manic talon]

So called S tier jokers when no good joker to copy

[vocal rose]

okay but why to $1 instead of interest cap

[wintry ice]

trying to force a strategy

[narrow wadi]

i guess if ur making $100 in the round then it doesn't matter if u go to interest cap or not

[dry remnant]

cuz i don't have the point scoring so i just had to roll all the way down and hope i find something worth

[vocal rose]

well it does matter

still

[narrow wadi]

why?

[graceful oasis]

hello fellow gamers

[wintry ice]

better guarrantee that you have the bonus 5$ than leave it to chance ig

and spreading out rerolls is good

[dry remnant]

he lives on!

[cloud sinew]

more money is better, generally

[narrow wadi]

i generally do this, even with good in round money i don't like going under like 19 (2 gold cards for cap), i don't know how consistent the money is tho

[dry remnant]

yes but guys money doesnt matter if I'm gonna lose the next round if i don't find something to boosg scoring

[narrow wadi]

true

[dry remnant]

somehow i got to the next round by some miricle

[wintry ice]

you could have just gone with whatever you found instead of trying to force photo

i'd imagine just blackboard with saturns was enough to win

[narrow wadi]

this is the truth, but this is also much harder to learn than facing photochad lol, when i first started that's what i always did

i hope in the update space joker gets buffed, it's a cool concept just kinda undertuned

idk if 1/3 or 1/2 makes it viable

[wintry ice]

1/4 is fine

that's a blue seal on average

[dry remnant]

What's the space joker change

[vocal rose]

1/2 would make it unbalanced

[vocal rose]

none

it’s good as it is

[narrow wadi]

it's fine in an i have nothing else i'm doing angle

1/2 overtuned for sure

but 1/4 only viable for pairs, which they're gonna wanna nerf

[wintry ice]

it's a value generator that lets you keep it's value after you find something better

[narrow wadi]

if they nerf pairs 1/4 becomes unusable

[narrow wadi]

i didn't think of it like this tbh, i think i might just be mad that i'm 0/11 rn

[wintry ice]

i think the biggest nerf pairs could get is blue stake being reworked

[dry remnant]

eh we made it far enough ig

[narrow wadi]

or just worse chips scaling on planets for pairs/ high cards

[pliant yoke]

Blue seals would be a much bigger nerf lol

[wintry ice]

true

blue seals are going to get retuned

and they need to be nerfed tbh

[narrow wadi]

idk what the nerf would be tho

other than a planet nerf

[white zodiac]

to make it more of a risk to hold them in hand as you would for a 5 card hand idk

[acoustic kettle]

Planets cost 5 dola

[wintry ice]

doc has suggested making it chance based in a stream

[white zodiac]

I don't think that solves the problem though

[pliant yoke]

I think reverting to the old blue seal would be too much, but doc's solution feels inelegant

[wintry ice]

and some people here want them to not be able to generate duplicate planets without showman

[narrow wadi]

this is probably a good suggestion but i do not like lowering consistency in strategy games

[pliant yoke]

Old blue seal just gives you random planets

[wintry ice]

which is a fair change because the reason why they're broken is how fast they snowball with deckfixing

[narrow wadi]

this is a very safe nerf tbh, it might not be enough tho, 1 planet per round is still very very good

[acoustic kettle]

Triggerable twice per ante

[white zodiac]

the parent issue of blue seals artificially lowering your hand size still applies for larger hands

[acoustic kettle]

Or skmething

[narrow wadi]

i'm honestly tryna think of a good change and i'm blanking, random planets makes it unviable, not being able to make 2 of the same without showman is a decent nerf but not enough

[pliant yoke]

New Blue stake idea: blue seals only pay off 50 percent of the time

... Nah, that feels too specific lol

[nova junco]

Ew

[icy hollow]

New blue stake idea: every joker in the shop is blue

[narrow wadi]

this does nothing for new players (i used to think purple seals were better)

[wintry ice]

blue stake rework: jokers have a 1 in 2 chance of triggering

[acoustic kettle]

Blue seals trigger randomly after a played hand with max of 1 per round

[icy hollow]

Bluejoker blueprint 🤑

[wintry ice]

because bloodstone was not bad enough

[nova junco]

What if it was reworked in a way where you get one planet every 2 blue seals or something

[acoustic kettle]

Make it after discards too

[nova junco]

Would work with retriggers

[acoustic kettle]

[narrow wadi]

this is probably too harsh a nerf tbh, halving their power seems too much

they're probably still ok tho

so it's the best suggestion i've heard

if it's guaranteed every second blue seal

[wintry ice]

make it so blue seals take the first hand of the round

this totally wouldn't make it only benfit pair builds

[narrow wadi]

honestly fire

this massively nerfs pair/ high card

without nerfing other hands as much

[nova junco]

Yeah also would be guaranteed every 2nd trigger so mime would get you 1 planet per seal

[wintry ice]

it's easier to play pairs as the first hand of the round

[narrow wadi]

i think this makes them too weak but idrk

[acoustic kettle]

Blue seals only trigger after a certain amount of cards played

[narrow wadi]

i read take the first hand as in remove a hand, i realised that is dumb

a card removing a hand is awful lol, idk why i was supporting that

[wintry ice]

i think it makes sense to be safe with the nerf because seals are meant to be strong

[white zodiac]

doesn't this hurt larger poker hands just as much or am I missing something

[acoustic kettle]

What if blue seals becomes when played on first hand instead

[narrow wadi]

this is just a buff to high card and pair

which the game does not want

[acoustic kettle]

Well on a fixed deck

[wintry ice]

that was the joke i was making

[narrow wadi]

you can always draw a high card lol

and generally always draw a pair

[narrow wadi]

i misread it and feel a bit dumb lol

[acoustic kettle]

I was thinking playing the blue seal

[coarse condor]

Black stake run just trying to gold stake everything, no challenge runs. Which of these would you value more in normal gameplay?

[narrow wadi]

ah, i think this is better because pair becomes hard, but high card is barely a worse hand than pair

[coral sluice]

Holy shit

Greatest showman ever?

[pale wolf]

if you want to limit availability of blue seals just make them affected by card blocking!!!

[wintry ice]

probably just taking brainstorm and leaving

[pale wolf]

gives less use to small hands, and more use to showman

[coarse condor]

how does one generate this much money …

[coarse condor]

fair enough

[wintry ice]

rebate and 2 billion gold cards

[pale wolf]

woah

[coarse condor]

heard that

[pale wolf]

here it's gold cards i believe

[jagged cliff]

This might be a ante 39 angle

[white zodiac]

um

no

[pale wolf]

literally how

[jagged cliff]

Idk, was just joshing

[vocal rose]

a39

[pale wolf]

[white zodiac]

um

[pure oasis]

good start

[jagged cliff]

Ante 39, I can smell it

[pure oasis]

pff

ah, again old picture

[jagged cliff]

Nat neg BP and nat neg Baron next shop

[pure oasis]

this is situation room now

[leaden blaze]

Looks like they are doing a baron mime build in which i havent done them much but ive seen one on youtube and before you turn the cards into steel while you dont actually need the score you turn everything into gold red seal kings. When you play high card your hand is full of gold cards that get retriggered by red seals and retriggered by mime and retriggered by blueprints and brainstorms copying mime for stupid money

[jagged cliff]

You got this, naneinf in the pocket

[narrow wadi]

is this a copypasta?

[leaden blaze]

No its just me explaining

Feel free to make it a copypasta

[white zodiac]

tldr: gold cards + mime + 4 copy jokers + hand size

[rough prairie]

Ooof dead gold stake to Arm followed by Flint

[pale wolf]

it's not pasta material

[white zodiac]

it's not satirical enough

[leaden blaze]

Yeah i didnt think so

[pale wolf]

okay let's do some serious math here, actually break down for those NOT in the know:
Bloodstone is BAD. we know this. That is BECAUSE it activates half the time, it's inconsistency incarnate. 1 in 2. Every other time, on AVERAGE.
Chicot activates only for a third of all blinds. 1 in 3. A THIRD OF THE TIME. Would you use a mr bones that has a 1 in 3 chance of activating? how about luchador? see the issue? Chicot is by far the worst legendary, and not even better than most uncommons!!!

[white zodiac]

what do you think of trading card

[jagged cliff]

Bloodstone and bad in the same sentence💔

[narrow wadi]

i assume this is a copypasta cos chicot is not the worst of the legendaries

[pale wolf]

trading card might be the worst card in the game, and HERE is why:
when you draw your cards, you have a bunch of cards and they all have value
so when you DESTROY a card, it's gone, and you can't turn it into a gold, so you lose out on over $40 over the course of the run. also, just like that, it's harder to make a straight! you're screwed! and then you get 3 dollars for it, which isn't even an interest step! only like 30 jokers are 3 dollars or under, so it's basically useless. Also, with blue stake, you only have 2 discards and when you use one on a single card (TO HURT YOR FUTURE ODDS MIGH I ADD), you now cut your discards in HALF. that's even worse than what blue stake did, reducing by a third! everyone hates blue stake, so think about it!!!!
finally, it's a uncommon which means that it takes up a valuable uncommon skip slot for The Idol which is the best joker in the game.

[leaden blaze]

Ill take bloodstone if i have oops and only if i have oops

[terse vale]

[wintry ice]

who said this lmao

[vale shale]

Zebra might be the worst member in the Balatro discord server and HERE is why:

[white zodiac]

it's been so long

[narrow wadi]

idt i even take it here, it's xmult on card scoring which is only valuable in very specific builds

[pale wolf]

me

[wintry ice]

cheese and beef in the same sandwich

[pale wolf]

call that a cheefburger

[leaden blaze]

I dont want to gamble with the inconsistency. I like to know if i win or not and not just randomly lose due to luck

[white zodiac]

friend said it was unhealthy for her so she ate just the buns

[narrow wadi]

i meant that bloodstone without oops is awful, bloodstone with oops is like ok maybe, not good

[wintry ice]

damn

[pure oasis]

also all of the face cards are now lucky cards, i have one red king + few purple tens, Jacks, Queens and telescope is quaranteed to buff high card

[pale wolf]

That's literally so dumb

😭

the breads the worst, emptiest part

[white zodiac]

[pale wolf]

nutritionally speaking

[nova junco]

The cap would be the same tho that's my main idea

[nova junco]

It will just take more blue seals/mime or whatever

[wintry ice]

the worst part is the cheese iirc

[white zodiac]

prob

depends on the establishment

[pure oasis]

3 tarot slots helps too

[leaden blaze]

Bloodstone with oops is really good. Its retriggerable xmult which is definitely worth 2 joker slots

[pale wolf]

fats is good for you

[vale shale]

Both beef and cheese isn't unhealthy.

[jagged cliff]

Bloodstone with oops is just a better ancient joker since it stays on the same suit, making it able to not need wild cards

[vocal rose]

yep!

[vocal rose]

sure!

[narrow wadi]

a better bad card is not a good card

[white zodiac]

it was a metaphor

[leaden blaze]

Exactly and ancient joker is cracked

[wintry ice]

it's also more vulnerable to the head

[vale wharf]

Is triboulet the strongest joker in the game? (in terms of raw scoring ability)

[pale wolf]

*makes it unavoidably vulnerable to a single boss blind

[vocal rose]

yes

[vocal rose]

no

[vale wharf]

Then?

[pale wolf]

mime is

[vale shale]

Idk what a metaphor is

[wintry ice]

baron has a much higher potential

[coral sluice]

Nat negative juggler and now the mime. Took a second ecto when I got the juggler. Will need to figure when to sell the DNA.

[vocal rose]

baron fits that criteria better

[pale wolf]

🙂

[white zodiac]

yes but with an exclamation point

[vale wharf]

How come?

[vale wharf]

That's utility, not scoring

[white zodiac]

exponential scaling

[wintry ice]

it also scales from hand size and not just extra copies

[pure oasis]

"It's aa Bingo"

[vale shale]

Trib has only 5 cards
Baron can be more than 5

[vocal rose]

because the cap on trib is e102 with a high end run and with baron/mime you can naneinf

[hardy fable]

nah me

[vocal rose]

more “consistently”

[white zodiac]

i

[vocal rose]

yes

[vale wharf]

Ohhh, I thought mime was a retrigger joker

[jagged cliff]

It's one bossblind, ancient is vulnerable to 4

[pale wolf]

its easier to naneinf without baron than without mime

[hardy fable]

errrrrm mathematically speaking I am a 1280x on plasma

[wintry ice]

mime retriggers baron and steel

[pure oasis]

too bad parking's gotta leave

[red thistle]

Root of -1.

[pale wolf]

ancient Joker is vulnerable to two, and they are not the suit bosses cuz you can just skip to invalidate those

[jagged cliff]

Sick

[vale wharf]

Ah, yes, how could we forget the greatest chips joker to ever exist

[pure oasis]

had good fun with it

[vale shale]

The fact that I utilized baron mime on a gold stake run with it being my greatest run oat in Balatro speaks volumes.

[vocal rose]

mime retriggers steels and baron

[hardy fable]

this guy knows what he's talking abt

[vale wharf]

I see, I see

[glad sequoia]

Pain

[vale shale]

Bro forgot about odd todd 💔 💔 💔

[vale wharf]

So mimes and baron are the strongest

[hardy fable]

this is mine with great reason

[jagged cliff]

I suppose

[vocal rose]

in terms of pure scoring yes

[vale wharf]

I HATE odd todd 😠

[vocal rose]

otherwise no

[vale shale]

I HATE you

💔 💔 💔 💔 💔

[white zodiac]

mime is a retrigger joker, it retriggers what is held in your hand which happens to include some exponential scaling sources via hand size such as baron and steel. couple that with more than a couple copy jokers and you get a high ramping exponential score scaling

[vocal rose]

baron is really bad in gold stake ante 8 runs

[vale wharf]

I'm sorry ☹️

[pale wolf]

the bigger issue is bloopstone taking 2 slots instead of AJ's 1

[leaden blaze]

Odd todd is honestly pretty decent

[vale shale]

It's fine I forgive you.

[vocal rose]

it is

[vale wharf]

♥️

[white zodiac]

prob too strong, nerf it to 29 chips

[pale wolf]

interesting but i like the spreadsheet more

[white zodiac]

o

[jagged cliff]

That's true

[cloud sinew]

Whoever posted that link

make it work with uploading your file and people would use it

[vocal rose]

okay but 7.5:1

[pale wolf]

truth

[graceful oasis]

but i dont wanna

is the only issue

[vale shale]

Damn so how would people use it

[white zodiac]

the minor inconvenience in question

[pale wolf]

stealing balatrostats code is more complicated than just making a checklist

[white zodiac]

nuke

[wintry ice]

what format do balatro save files use again

[pale wolf]

bin?

[graceful oasis]

with their eyes and fingers unfortunately

[dry remnant]

who needs mult when u have econ

[wintry ice]

you could probably just use a library to read those files

[unreal iron]

looks weird out of context but i had a bus and blackboard before this final setup

4 more stickers gang!!!

[vale shale]

Yeah but that takes skill patience practice intelligence a brain hands arms legs body head eyes ears mouth nose teeth uvula heart gallbladder pancreas appendix intensites feet finger toe nails hair to do

[vale shale]

You sold the rtb?

[red thistle]

Stinkers.

[pure oasis]

damn, whatever hand i play that has a face card it scores millions. Can't make money.

[unreal iron]

sold rtb for chaos, sold blackboard to nuke with 4oak red seal glass

i had a death fool lined up too

[graceful oasis]

jkr file

[wintry ice]

you didn't sticker holo until now?

[pale wolf]

was thinking about how dusk is in the desert

[trail holly]

5th gold stake dub

[vale wharf]

Bruhhhhhhhhh, invisible joker shouldn't be able to copy such jokers

[heavy heron]

2 SHORTCUTS

it should double in effect like

2 5 8 j a

is a straight

[narrow wadi]

the more i play the better i find shortcut, straights are lowkey good on gold stake

and shortcut makes them consistent af

[heavy heron]

yup

biggest downside to straights is drawing them

shortcut really is a solid take

[pale wolf]

thunk doesnt live near a desert

[narrow wadi]

i find it better than the uh 4 finger card or whatever it's called

[heavy heron]

4 fingers

[narrow wadi]

the other uncommon straight consistency card

ok i got it right

i'm bad with names lol

[white zodiac]

I would hope Canada doesn't have any

[heavy heron]

4 fingers is pretty good for straights too

[pale wolf]

well technically

[white zodiac]

[heavy heron]

even on photochad i gotta go aces

[narrow wadi]

i'll still take a 4 fingers if i'm going straights or it's round 1 buffoon but i'd be much happier with shortcut

[heavy heron]

yeah that makes sense

shortcut is more consistent than 4 fingers, for straights

[narrow wadi]

i'm only rly going for flushes if i'm on checkered so the 4 fingers flush buff doesn't rly matter

[heavy heron]

mmm flushes 🤤

[narrow wadi]

i have the very very occasional pick of the x2 mult rare guy early where flushes are my build otherwise

[heavy heron]

the tribe

[narrow wadi]

that's the one lol

i'm colourblind so idk the names of any of the rare duo/ tribe guys, they all look the same for me so i just check description

[jagged valve]

Why is there only 10 of spades bugged erratic deck seeds? Like, is it impossible normally to get less than 1 of each numbered card?

[heavy heron]

everybody be saying flushes suck but they still be flushing after finishing their toilet session

[heavy heron]

oh that’s fair

they do all look the same otherwise

LOOLLL

mostly at least

[narrow wadi]

i can notice if it's the duo, it's the only one i can actually tell the difference from the others

[white zodiac]

the waffle stomper/sink pisser in the same room

[narrow wadi]

maybe cos it's my most taken so the tiny differences i notice more

i take duo a lot

[pale wolf]

what? they literally show the cards

[heavy heron]

duo is pretty good

[heavy heron]

they’re saying that there is a difference but harder to visibly notice initially without color

[pale wolf]

Even if you're colorblind how are you confusing these two

[heavy heron]

…what

they look almost identical

[pale wolf]

One has number cards and one has checkered cards

[heavy heron]

it’s only the cards themselves

[glad sequoia]

Highest I've ever gotten obelisk in non endless. Definitely one of the strongest decks for the joker imo

[heavy heron]

that are different

[narrow wadi]

ik but generally i use picture connection to name to remember what it's called, with just the name it's much harder for me

[white zodiac]

and well
the entire description

[pale wolf]

I'm not even looking at the colors when I differentiate between them, I only look at the cards in the picture

[white zodiac]

im a visual learner

despite being colorblind

[heavy heron]

they’re saying they can tell, just not initially in a second as quick as people w color

[white zodiac]

and what not

[narrow wadi]

i have red, green and blue, yellow colourblindness, this makes it very hard for me to distinguish between pretty much any colour- ofc i can see they're different but it's much harder for me to notice

[pale wolf]

I would certainly get annoyed on the sin jokers I think

especially with editions

[narrow wadi]

my vision is 20/20, i'm very good with shapes

just not colours

[vale wharf]

I never see them in the shop, though 😢

[white zodiac]

fun

my vision is 20/15

[narrow wadi]

they're uncommon so yeah, they don't show up early much and u wanna be taking them early most of the time

[narrow wadi]

jesus, that's better than i thought possible

wait

is it left eye/ right eye

not like

a scale

[white zodiac]

both

[vale wharf]

😭 yeah, it's left and right

[narrow wadi]

ahhh lmao

[vocal rose]

my vision is bad

[narrow wadi]

i never realised cos my non colour eyesight has always been so good

[vocal rose]

idk what it is

[white zodiac]

I can see images clearly at 20 feet where most ppl see at 15 feet (farsighted)

[narrow wadi]

ik my eyesight will deteriorate later cos my dad had the same (other than colourblindness) and now he's nearly blind

[vale wharf]

New joker idea: Hindsight
cards with rank 20 get x20 mult when scored

[brave fox]

Playing balatro in the waiting room to pass the time, can't wait to get back home lol

[rugged umbra]

who needs mult when u have econ

[glass creek]

It's not

[pale wolf]

hmmm

[unreal iron]

how would this work

[narrow wadi]

by rank 20 do u mean 20 points? cos this is only possible with hiker right

and that's insanely niche

[narrow wadi]

i don't see like this dw lol, i do see colour it's just that all colours look a lot more similar to me

like i mix them up a lot

[vale wharf]

I just checked, yeah you're right

[pale wolf]

yea ik just another point of comparison

Even if you couldn't see any color I feel like they're pretty distinguishable

[vale wharf]

No, I mean rank 20

[narrow wadi]

making it black and white is not the same as what colourblindness is, i have cone deficiencies in 3/5, when things have colour i struggle to distinguish the wavelengths

i'm weirdly better when it's black and white

[pale wolf]

interesting

[white zodiac]

idk if your pixel has these settings but Samsung has color tone shift options that are catered to colorblind ppl

somewhere in settings

[narrow wadi]

most things do, the issue i find is that all it does is just straight up change the colours and make things weird

sure it makes it easier for me to tell what things are

but it looks weird

[pale wolf]

perfect colorblind mode /s

[tired kestrel]

Me when the gamble i take doesn't pay off

[glass creek]

Both my eyes don't have the same vision ratio, so I'd know

[narrow wadi]

idk wtf u did to get this lol, this is nothing like what i ever see

[jagged valve]

How does one make obelisk work

[glass creek]

Balatro for the Virtual Boy

[pale wolf]

I'm messing around i know about colorblindness nuance

[narrow wadi]

colourblindness rly doesn't effect me 90% of the time, it's such a minor thing to live with, the only times in life it's effected me are balatro and throwing a ball for my dogs

[white zodiac]

figures

[vale wharf]

Yeah, I didn't know mb
I thought it was a score where 20 is the highest and 0 means you're blind

[pale wolf]

to be fair the dogs are affected too

i hate it when people get red balls for dogs

[glass creek]

Nahh

[narrow wadi]

for me it's just that if i throw a ball for my dogs i lose it the second it goes into the grass

[wintry ice]

what do red balls look like for them

gray?

[pale wolf]

same as green

[heavy heron]

color me interested

(sorry)

[white zodiac]

do you get used to it without contacts or glasses when you need to wear them or do you get dizziness or headaches or what not

[wintry ice]

oh

[narrow wadi]

btw colourblindness rly barely effects me in balatro lol, i just take 2 extra seconds when i get one of the duo/ order jokers and have to check which it is

[jagged valve]

I one day woke up with mild myopia out of nowhere

[white zodiac]

I got one as a prank lmao

[unreal iron]

vexing shop

dna is bait right?

[narrow wadi]

wld be a fire joke if it wasn't the american spelling lol

[unreal iron]

i want voucher

[jagged valve]

At the first few months when I woke up my vision was perfect then immediately degraded now its just bad all day

[heavy heron]

wait i honestly don’t get it, why can’t dogs play w red balls

oh wait

i had no idea

[white zodiac]

yeah blue yellow

the two best decks

local is a doggy

[narrow wadi]

ngl all of these are identical for me other than bottom right toy which does look darker

[heavy heron]

COLOUR ME INTERESTED

[prisma meadow]

Balatro

[narrow wadi]

ty, appreciate it lol

[pale wolf]

makes sense because you have the same type

[glass creek]

It doesn't really affect me much

[white zodiac]

that's good

[jagged valve]

Red is the worst color bro you ain't missing nun

[unreal iron]

its yellow

[pale wolf]

they see red, just
its the same as other colors

[unreal iron]

such an ass color

[pale wolf]

😎

[prisma meadow]

Yellow fucking sucks

[narrow wadi]

i wouldn't know lol, for me red and green are nearly the same, i can tell with some shades but not many

[pale wolf]

for all you know green things look red

[narrow wadi]

this is one of my favourite colours even if it's part of my second type of colourblindness

[white zodiac]

navigating through traffic lights must be fun

[prisma meadow]

But yellow is the color of pee

[narrow wadi]

nah that'd be gross, i love red as a concept and green is a weird concept

[glass creek]

Colorblindness is more common than I had previously thought

[pale wolf]

and missing out on green is sad

[narrow wadi]

everyone says this as if they hadn't realise that they have 3 different positions as well as colours

[lone pulsar]

what is the balatro record for the highest hand level?

[glad sequoia]

Play a lot of one hand and then never again

[pale wolf]

uuuuuuh not sure

[brittle tendon]

What are straights weakness?

[prisma meadow]

4

[narrow wadi]

difficulty to draw

[inland helm]

at least 2

[white zodiac]

some places are flipped in states and countries I've been in

granted it was like 2

[brittle tendon]

After learning how to draw them I have to say no

[white zodiac]

but yeah

[narrow wadi]

i just moved to japan and they're different but like it took me 10 minutes to get used to it

[brittle tendon]

Flushes I feel are easier but worse

[floral mural]

consistency but they are appropriately strong scaling wise and need fixing

[pale wolf]

even "normal" color vision is colorblindness, we conflate wavelengths and dont see the full spectrum

[white zodiac]

how would you describe the color red to a color blind person or a blind person

[brittle tendon]

Anything else?

[floral mural]

flushes have much stronger tarots to fix for them. unfortunately scaling for them is bad

[narrow wadi]

i mean that u expect to get 1.5 straights a round without deck fixing, obviously they are still very strong cos of how good saturn is but in a lot of builds this does hurt

[white zodiac]

japan is pretty forgiving yeah

[jagged valve]

Straight can be kind of uncertain unless it's like hugely fixed

[lone pulsar]

I couldn't

[pale wolf]

people can be shown green in one eye and red in the other to simulate a "gred" color in their brain that doesnt exist irl
maybe something like that

[white zodiac]

I was flaming on da nang, vietnam

[floral mural]

straights are my favourite hand and the fact they can still be played just not consistently early on means theyre good backup early on

[narrow wadi]

brown

green and red go to brown

green, red and brown are the same most of the time for me

[brittle tendon]

Nah they are fine enough with just cutting the tops and bottoms off the decks

[white zodiac]

the ends of the string

[jagged valve]

I don't feel safe doing straight builds most of the time

[brittle tendon]

Alright thanks, I'm asking cause this is for a college assignment

[pale wolf]

in a few generations there'll be genetically modified humans with more types of cones making the old human race obselete

[jagged valve]

The one time I did it was straight flush and well that actually went well with Seánce

[jagged valve]

The mantis shrimp humans

[cursive prairie]

what do yall prefer: bloodstone or perkeo

[pale wolf]

perkeo

[narrow wadi]

tbf men are much more likely to be colourblind than women- i got my colourblindness from 3 generations of women before my closest colourblind relative. it might just be female superiority

[white zodiac]

[narrow wadi]

colourblindness is a sex linked chromosone

so a woman needs 2

a man needs 1

[brittle tendon]

Wtf did I join back to

[narrow wadi]

for an uncommon thing to have getting 2 is very very rare

[brittle tendon]

I close my phone for 2 seconds

[narrow wadi]

for a man it's like 1/50

[lone pulsar]

what I don't like about straight builds is that it forces you to use a bunch of different cards so you can't really duplicate any value or mult generators

[cursive prairie]

C++ in 60 hours is ok?

[glass creek]

Perkeo

[latent egret]

it takes death and strentgh

instead of just death

[brittle tendon]

Ye

[narrow wadi]

isn't this like 23 jokers an hour, that's pretty fire

[jagged valve]

Gimmie both

[glass creek]

Bloodstone is too inconsistent scoring for my liking

[jagged valve]

Along with an oa6

[pale wolf]

wut

[pale wolf]

23x60=150 for sure

[narrow wadi]

idk where i got that number from ngl

i feel very dumb

i did further maths a level

i shld be good

[lone pulsar]

yea but you sill need to balance everything and once you dupe a card its already debalanced unless you cut another card in one of the ends of the deck

[pale wolf]

it would be very good, but I still don't believe you

[latent egret]

you need to reduce the deck independtly of that

[jagged valve]

Does the 2nd oa6 go from 2 in x to 4 in x?

[pale wolf]

yup

[jagged valve]

In the case of a 1 in x without oops

[pale wolf]

they double not +1

[latent egret]

so it doesn't really matter, its the same for all hands

[jagged valve]

Way better

It does say double but I wasnt sure

[floral mural]

perkeo and ancient joker

[lone pulsar]

exactly why it's not great

[floral mural]

i dont need no ancient joker but worse

[latent egret]

but you need to do that for all large hands

[white zodiac]

I wonder

[floral mural]

ancient joker is also more interesting than bloodstone to play

[latent egret]

even flushes are wayy better with less cards

[coarse condor]

Crimson bean bug is so niche, I’m struggling to find enough $$$ to reroll in late 7/early 8 and find it lol

[jagged valve]

Wait does oops affect bh and soul ? I assume not as it's a seed linked thing

[coarse condor]

multiple wins on various stakes now, and not one bean

[white zodiac]

better than outright searching for one specific legendary in the first 4 antes

[pale wolf]

they are not listed probabilities

[coarse condor]

very true lol that’s gotta be frustrating

[latent egret]

oops only affects visible probs

[white zodiac]

all "listed" probabilities

[pale wolf]

generally green numbers

[lone pulsar]

with flushes you don't have to really balance your deck as much it's kind of already there its just deleting wtv you dont need

[pale wolf]

except on wheel

[jagged valve]

I had no idea what that meant

I mean sort of

[pale wolf]

You have to be able to read the probability

[white zodiac]

any description that explicitly lists a probability

[jagged valve]

But just to be sure

[latent egret]

except you need to play at least 3 flushes if you rely on planet scoring as you could do with straights

which is no given

[cursive prairie]

im going to send screenshot in my home

[jagged valve]

Plops a wiki page of Soul and continuously read it while playing my Balatro Run with 3 Oops

[pale wolf]

🦓

[lone pulsar]

so you are telling me straights work better with level scaling and blue seals ?

because generally most big hands are better with flushes

[latent egret]

huh

[lone pulsar]

so wouldn't those be better

[pale wolf]

wut

[lone pulsar]

I mean like flush 5 flush house ect

[vocal rose]

“most big hands are better with flushes” what does this mean

[pale wolf]

flush flush

[latent egret]

i understand

[vocal rose]

flush 4oak

[white zodiac]

considering that saturn scaling offers twice as many chips and more mult, yeah they can practically one shot blinds that way while having more outs for certain card draw bosses and scoring thresholds

[latent egret]

but straights are great af by themselves

[pale wolf]

this should actually be a secret hand with a flush made entirely of wild cards

it is both a flush of one suit and a flush of a different suit

[white zodiac]

flush spectrum

[narrow wadi]

ur the person who made me even think about straights on gold stake and honestly it's improved my winrate

[vocal rose]

super flush

[white zodiac]

I was?

damn

[lone pulsar]

flush to the power of 4 since it's every suits so flush flush flush flush

[jagged valve]

I saw that achievement

I wanna see what it's like

[narrow wadi]

i hated on straights and u replied to me with good points as to why i was wrong

and one thing i've learned in gaming is that there is always someone who knows more than u

so u shld listen

[white zodiac]

I don't even remember who I talked to yesterday but yeah thats cool

[narrow wadi]

it was like 2 weeks ago lol

[white zodiac]

o

[narrow wadi]

u have a pretty easy to distinguish name

[inland helm]

that fifth one is crazy ive never seen anyone do smth like that lmao

[jagged valve]

The only reason I chat here tbh

And send my takes that I think are true

[white zodiac]

just some random seed I found

[jagged valve]

And wait to be demolished

[pale wolf]

My name is zebra

[white zodiac]

if you're the smartest person in the room, you're in the wrong room

[vale shale]

My name is always skip charm tag ante 1.

[narrow wadi]

i'm happy that like 90% of my takes aren't contested by good players so my intuitive knowledge was still pretty good, i had 10% taught to me with things i had just never tried

[narrow wadi]

fire

[vale shale]

Or ascta1 for short.

[jagged valve]

I'm a player of 1 month

[pale wolf]

is this telling smart people to go outside

touch grass per se

[narrow wadi]

i think i'm a pretty smart person but like i came onto this server with 100 hours in balatro, so smart people with 1000 hours are gonna know more than me

[jagged valve]

Smart people already go outside because they know it's healthy

[white zodiac]

u gonna get banned again shut yo lame brain chicken grain e

[jagged valve]

Oh I have like 30 I think

[white zodiac]

im about to run some laps soon

[pale wolf]

vegan zombie be like grains lmao

[white zodiac]

is this how they target that portion of the audience

[jagged valve]

Though I think my Play Store is acting up I feel like I played way more

[vale shale]

"Skin tone chicken bone google chrome metronome" ahh bar

[pale wolf]

I'm about to do some laps as well

[lone pulsar]

just for that you get a pregnant man reaction.

[pale wolf]

just on a lawn mower instead

[narrow wadi]

this is around the point i realised red card is one of the best scaling +mult jokers so if u already knew that ur better than me

[vocal rose]

what do we think about the ratio 7.5:1

[vale shale]

Good on you for realizing that.

You are above 90% of the people who play Balatro that says red card is good.

[narrow wadi]

for me my game says 150 hours but i leave my computer on overnight most of the time with the game i'm playing open so idk how many hours i have lol i assume it's around 70 but 100 sounds better

[jagged valve]

It becomes better as you evolve in the game and realize you don't need to take everything on mega packs or anything on bad packs (even spectral)

[lone pulsar]

is trousers the best scalling mult joker?

[white zodiac]

woah that's like 5 bloodstone hits

[vocal rose]

close

[vale shale]

2nd best I think

[narrow wadi]

i think i realised how strong econ was very early and didn't realise that turning econ into +mult is just as strong

[vale shale]

Top 3 is like red card trousers and rtb

[cedar shell]

it is the most winningest joker to get at the beginning

[warped moth]

Wow ok thank you game

[cedar shell]

classic abandoned deck

[pale wolf]

trousers is the best scaling +mult imo
but if you don't specify what kind of mult then you got better xmults

[jagged valve]

Do you guys ever do negative skip tags?

I never did top up so that's missing in my collection

[vale shale]

Ye sometimes for fun.

[narrow wadi]

i think same for me, i think flash card is rly overrated, it's the best scaling +mult joker at like ante 4 but by that point u should've already scaled something

[pale wolf]

if I have all eternals and I'm afraid of leaf

otherwise no reason to

[vale shale]

JJ kinda decent but it hurts your soul to reroll for mult.

[narrow wadi]

if i have like 5 double tags on anaglyph i might cos it's very fun and highrolly lol, if not no

[white zodiac]

if I can get away with stickering something

[cedar shell]

eternal negative 😥

[jagged valve]

I sometimes do it on Anaglyph if that economy tag is taking too long

[narrow wadi]

on ante 4 with no scaled +mult it's an insane pull imo, but this is like never happening if u play optimally

[lone pulsar]

I do so on anaglyph when I cant find investment tag and im feeling lucky

[pale wolf]

yeah stickering is different priorities, I take a lot of negative tags when I sticker

[cedar shell]

i dont know how to do anaglyph deck

i just play it like it doesnt do anything

[vale shale]

That's usually what I do yeah

[white zodiac]

pretty much

[narrow wadi]

it's pretty good, rare skips with a few double tags are kinda decent imo even if they're generally ass, 3 double tags and ur near guaranteed decent xmult and some money

[lone pulsar]

is anaglyph deck the best for stickers?

[jagged valve]

I'm only missing Chicot and a random unknown joker rn for completion

[narrow wadi]

is it satellite? that was my last joker unlock?

[jagged valve]

Nah

Let me see

[cedar shell]

negative tag does go kinda hard

[pale wolf]

are you sure it's a Joker and not a voucher

[white zodiac]

generally it's decent up until the second half of the ++ journey

[jagged valve]

Ok nvm I think I unlocked it already

[pale wolf]

I think early on in stickering, it's worth playing anaglyph for like 10 wins To mop up a lot of Commons with a negative tag

[narrow wadi]

i don't have the bin icon skip tag, and don't plan to get it until i have c++, it's not a good one and i think it'd be funny to c++ without having every achievement

[lone pulsar]

good to know

[vocal rose]

at that point it’s still very mid

[jagged valve]

Oh it was Madness

[vocal rose]

since the only change in $ to mult ratio that could happen would be vouchers

[pale wolf]

there's a skip tag and a joker for that

[narrow wadi]

madness rly isn't that bad in high stakes imo, obviously it's a very inconsistent xmult, but if u have some eternal +mult it's pretty decent

[pale wolf]

but yeah flash card sucks

[unreal iron]

these page 9 jokers are pissing me off...

[pale wolf]

did you unlock all

[lone pulsar]

I always take the reroll vouchers

[pale wolf]

then yes it is modded issues

[white zodiac]

Jj I associate as a joker that sucks, until it doesn't (with econ jokers)

[narrow wadi]

really, is this something i should do more? i only took this on my less than 12 round achievement run

i know it's a ton of money if u already have money

but like

[pale wolf]

chaos should be more a d6 tag

[white zodiac]

could make a joker that just randomly shits out d6 tags

[pale wolf]

1 in 6 chance each round

[unreal island]

🥹

[pale wolf]

That would be pretty dope

[lone pulsar]

well once you got both its like 5 rerolls for the price of two and you can continue rerolling then you can always get econ tarots with tarot merchant or levels with planet vouchers

[white zodiac]

probability changes at the end of each round 👅

[narrow wadi]

it's 5 rerolls for the price of $10

[lone pulsar]

right thats still not expensive at all

[signal frigate]

Any voucher that helps minimize econ issue is a good voucher

You purchase it once

[narrow wadi]

true, maybe i should take it more but like, by the time rerolling is great i have econ jokers i have felt it's more powerful to play the round