🕹・game-discussion

[cloud sinew]

kid named chips

[unborn cliff]

the humble rough gem

[lost vault]

actually

[heady narwhal]

i think arrowhead is way better

and blackboard if it counts

[lost vault]

kid named blackboard

:3

[heady narwhal]

and castle if it counts

[unborn cliff]

kid named rough gem

oughhh im so big and fat i love econ

[lost vault]

gem in the rough

[crystal field]

i think theres a case for both arrowhead and agate

[cloud sinew]

you really think that castle is better than agate?

[heady narwhal]

yeah

[cursive prairie]

lol

[crystal field]

castle is so shit

holy fuck

[heady narwhal]

i'd rather play pairs than flushes

[lost vault]

in fairness castle is more general

[cursive prairie]

what is flush

color?

[crystal field]

u dont need 2 play flushes for onyx agate or arrowhead to be good

unlike rough gem and chudstone

[heady narwhal]

castle is roughly as good as squoker for pairs and if you have the money or get lucky with vouchers it can scale really fast

[lost vault]

true u can also play straigjt fluh

[cursive prairie]

color best hand

[heady narwhal]

arrowhead i agree, agate i just don't think it's worth it

[lost vault]

said wvery new player ever

[heady narwhal]

there are better places to get 28 mult

[cursive prairie]

🙂‍↔️

[crimson carbon]

its photograph copied by brainstorm

[heady narwhal]

chips are rare and +mult is not

[crystal field]

hey mult is mult, however u get it. also clubs are just versatile as a suit to play towards or around

[unborn cliff]

is that past progressive

[crystal field]

i think doc said onyx agate was his preference over the uncommon suit jonklers

[unborn cliff]

well doc is WRONG

[cursive prairie]

wdym past progressive

[heady narwhal]

i'd put castle and arrowhead in roughly the same tier

[lost vault]

this is like disagreeing with a god of knowledge

[crystal field]

castle sooo much worse

[heady narwhal]

build into a suit for chips

[crystal field]

wow castle ante 1, thanks for 100 chips by ante 8

[unborn cliff]

my spanish teacher calls one of the tenses "past progressive" (or passed im not sure)

[lost vault]

real

[cursive prairie]

flush is the easiest hand to find

[unborn cliff]

high card

[crystal field]

pair too

two pair

[heady narwhal]

skissue

[cursive prairie]

no multi in the beginning

[crystal field]

yes castle does have a skill issue

[heady narwhal]

castle is around 200 chips without doing anything

[unborn cliff]

its the easiest hand to find

[shell dagger]

100 chips castle by ante 8 is crazy low for ante 1 castle

[fading cobalt]

Baseball card carried

[cursive prairie]

i dont know what is that bro

lol

[shell dagger]

my last 2 castle runs were >550

[opaque yew]

riff-raff gave me banana and cavendish.

[crystal field]

with 2 discards on gold stake and castle seemingly picking the suit i draw the least = very low chips for scaling chips joker

[unborn cliff]

which tense is that

[cursive prairie]

yea but i mean in the beggining for multi

[cursive prairie]

what tense

[crystal field]

the update castle will be a bit better tbf

[unborn cliff]

vro

[shell dagger]

cherry pick

[unborn cliff]

past present future

[crystal field]

how

[cursive prairie]

ahhhhhhhhhhh

[heady narwhal]

i think these castles were +300 each

[cursive prairie]

"mano más jugada"? @unborn cliff

[shell dagger]

statistically castle is not most likely to pick your least likely suit

[lost vault]

it gave you banana and banana

[fading cobalt]

Use your hands to find the suit

[crystal field]

nahhh im not being too serious about it. Its like glass joker 1/4

[shell dagger]

so it’s not worth mentioning

[unborn cliff]

yeah the -ada which tense is that

[heady narwhal]

that's better than 5 card arrowhead

[cursive prairie]

i think is like present perfect in english

[crystal field]

its like every time i have castle i never draw the cards i need for it

[opaque yew]

it's bananas

[crystal field]

pisses me off so bad

[lost vault]

banyanya

[unreal iron]

ironic

[unborn cliff]

oh ok

[cedar shell]

how did you manage that

[crystal field]

good question. Guess im never lucky

[shell dagger]

my deck the last time i used castle

[unreal iron]

spam high card whar

and fix towards 2 suits

[crystal field]

obviously

[heady narwhal]

rebate and purple seals are infuriating in the same way but those are obviously very powerful

[crystal field]

those generate value tho, not scoring

[cedar shell]

can castle be fixed

[shell dagger]

yeah

[lost vault]

blaxkboard 🤤

[heady narwhal]

scaling and value generation are basically the same thing

[cedar shell]

i just dont ever use it ig

[crystal field]

eeeeh sorta

[lost vault]

what

[shell dagger]

it’s true

[lost vault]

value gen is like cartomamcer me thinks

[crystal field]

ye

[shell dagger]

it’s not like bloodstone where 1 dud round kills you

[cedar shell]

why use castle when every problem can be solved with aggressive runner scaling

[crystal field]

value gen is when u get smth that isnt an effect or scoring like u gain money or consumables

or some other form of value

[lost vault]

yea let me just perform a demonic vlood ritual to summon runner every single run

[twin lantern]

fuck black deck all my homies loathe black deck

[heady narwhal]

value generation is ultimately used to increase your scoring by spending on rerolls for xmult, scaling your planets, deckfixing, etc

[cedar shell]

have you not done that yet

[cursive prairie]

it doesn't actually have any verb tenses, it's a bit weird and complicated

[lost vault]

no :<

[unborn cliff]

curious

[lost vault]

im too shy….

[cursive prairie]

chatgpt said: The phrase “mano más jugada” is not in the past tense or any verb tense, because it isn’t an action.

[crystal field]

so in this way ig what I mean is, castle is +3 chips for each card discarded and rebate is +$5, which could be +3 chips or smth else which I find more uselful

and is why rebate is way better

[lost vault]

fuck chatgpt

[cedar shell]

femboy twink claims to be scared of anything when theyve conquered the most frightening thing the world could offer (social anxiety)

[lost vault]

chatgpt cant even generate a full glass of wine

[cursive prairie]

it's just a descriptive noun phrase i think

[cursive lion]

What should I sell

[lost vault]

i dunno if ive fullu conquered it

[heady narwhal]

also specifically for things like castle vs aj, or runner vs an actual straight build, rng evens out in the end for scaling jokers rather than just "you die if you lowroll"

[cursive lion]

Thinking rebate since I have enough econ

[cedar shell]

rebate

or

HEAR ME OUT

brainstorm

[lost vault]

i will not hear u out

[cedar shell]

im rooting for you king

[lost vault]

:3

ty

[cursive lion]

I mean I mainly getting blueprint for yorick (or lucky cat if it goes pass yorick)

[twin lantern]

i also love perkeo. perkeo is a cool dude

[crystal field]

also lowkey id rather have any other scaling chips joker than castle, ill still take castle if I need or want scling chips but yeah i just hate bro sm despite the epic art

[cursive prairie]

i think spanish is one of the most difficults languages

[cedar shell]

perkeo is a girl

[heady narwhal]

probably cat

[lost vault]

yorick negative

[lost vault]

perkeo was a man

[twin lantern]

is that right

[lost vault]

irl

[cedar shell]

i'm very aware

[crystal field]

the jimbos are non binary and yse all pronouns

[lost vault]

grrr

[crystal field]

💕

[cursive prairie]

i think he can

[lost vault]

that aint full

thats just a glass of wine

[shell dagger]

not saying chatgpt is the bees knees or anything but this is outdated info

[cursive prairie]

u right

[cloud sinew]

Jimbo uses he/him actually

[lost vault]

id like to see it then

:p

[cursive prairie]

when do u use "aint"? i dont understand it

[shell dagger]

id rather not

[lost vault]

fair

[shell dagger]

but that whole argument was valid 9 months ago, ai is way better now

[cursive prairie]

is it not the same "isn't"?

[crystal field]

well yeah all pronouns include this

[lost vault]

pretty much

its just slang

[white zodiac]

english is a contender

[cursive prairie]

slang?

[lost vault]

i havent seen any proof that it can uet but oki

[twin lantern]

like a different way to say it

[lost vault]

like

[cursive prairie]

cause

[lost vault]

frick

[cursive prairie]

like that

[cloud sinew]

slang means shortened language
e.g slang is slang for shortened language

[lost vault]

how doni explain slang

oh

[terse vale]

lowkey the suffixes and other forms are confusing

[crystal field]

like calc is slang for calculator

[lost vault]

jthannk you

[cursive prairie]

ohh thanks

[terse vale]

I could see how that could be confusing I mean

like buy to bought or fly to flew or flied

[cursive prairie]

is "aint" or "ain't"?

[terse vale]

ain’t

[cedar shell]

ain't

[cursive prairie]

ty

[cedar shell]

fuck

[lost vault]

i think its ain’t yea

[crystal field]

is would is be ain

or ai

[pale wolf]

todays's balatrodle ROCKS
2 (SPOILERS)

[cursive prairie]

a

[heady narwhal]

new opinion: blackboard > cavendish

[crystal field]

rip i didnt mean to unspoiler this

💔

[lost vault]

how thougg

[crystal field]

very chill tho

[pale wolf]

I could not do anything else, I even highlighted the Jokers so if you opened it you might not get what it was at a glance

[cloud sinew]

if both are in a shop, I'm taking Cavendish over Blackboard more often than not

[terse vale]

I mean blackboard hasn’t died two times when I needed it the most

[cursive prairie]

isn't full yet

[lost vault]

closee

[pale wolf]

do you ever take blackboard instead lol

[cursive prairie]

i think

[heady narwhal]

how am i gonna keep my 100000 win streak if cavendish has a chance of breaking

[cloud sinew]

stop using generative AI

[terse vale]

lel

[crystal field]

its my own fault, i cant read

[lost vault]

true

[cedar shell]

but convenience writing culture is so strong nobody wants to use the apostrophe so you'll often see aint without autocorrect

[cloud sinew]

You're cringe and its cringe also this isn't balatro

[lost vault]

genai is like bad for the wnvironment and shit

[heady narwhal]

also blackboard is conditional so you can underscore easily

[terse vale]

I mean I would just put cav on tge left

[lost vault]

okay first get a 100000 win streak

[crystal field]

cavendish is unreliale! what if it break

[terse vale]

unless your pair levels are cracked

[cursive prairie]

ok sorry mrs mod

[terse vale]

or any level

I guess i’ve only been thinking about pairs tbf

[heady narwhal]

what if i got 46 black holes this run

[pale wolf]

balatro is officially against genAI

[lost vault]

yay

[cedar shell]

cringe spotted

[unreal ice]

2 things
YOO BALATRODLE THIS IS SICK
but u ruined my first day on it ;(

[terse vale]

underscoring is important in like 4oak and 3oak runs or straight runs and stuff

[lost vault]

so that means jokerpoker balala is an affront to god

[terse vale]

blackboard is viable for those

[pale wolf]

How so

[terse vale]

Maybe a bit less for 3oak

[pale wolf]

I described what the image was and you're the one that clicked it

[cloud sinew]

you ruined it yourself, you could've read the message before unspoilering it

[lost vault]

because if im not mistaken balala uses generative ai to make its joekr designs

[terse vale]

so I get wanting to underscore

[unreal ice]

didnt know it was a thing so braindead clicked on the spoiler lmfao

[cedar shell]

what is balatrodle

[crystal field]

i did the same thing

[terse vale]

nine times out of ten though you’d want cavendish incase stuff doesn’t go too well

[cedar shell]

o don't get it

[pale wolf]

Hope you enjoy it from now on

[unreal ice]

never heard of balatrodle before man how am i supposed to xd

[crystal field]

planet bros

[pale wolf]

wordle for

[cloud sinew]

wordle but you guess the joker

[unreal ice]

ty <3 looks fun

[unborn cliff]

yeah i can win right haha

[terse vale]

whatever chance you have on whiffing blackboard is probably higher than a 1/1000

[cedar shell]

oh that's cool

[unborn cliff]

i just went against the ox so im poor

[cursive prairie]

cause i'm wasting water?

[cloud sinew]

blackboard doesn't whiff permanently

[lost vault]

luckily cavendish stays with you 999 times out of 1000

[tranquil cargo]

blackboard can be turned off if you need to not win yet

[cursive prairie]

how do u put that in the jokers

mod_?

[unborn cliff]

JokerDisplay

[robust lance]

going super saiyan on this mf

[heady narwhal]

if you get it in the ante 8 small blind shop sure

[pale wolf]

is there any (gold stake ante 8) situation where the chance for Cavendish to break is actually worth considering

[cursive prairie]

is mod or is in game

[lost vault]

rah

[terse vale]

ya that is a plus

[unborn cliff]

mod

[heady narwhal]

i think if your winrate is like 100% then yeah

[cedar shell]

poor needle

[heady narwhal]

other than that who really cares

[cloud sinew]

yes

[lost vault]

i wonder what the actual chances of keeping cav throughout a whole 24 round run is

[latent egret]

and you neeeeed the x3

[crystal field]

appropriate balatro long ahh nickname

[cloud sinew]

~97.7%

[dusky sundial]

Its beautiful. I've looked at it for 5 hours now

[lost vault]

actually earliest it can appear is round 2 so 22 round

[white zodiac]

idk, I've won both of the occasions where it died on that ante lmao

[lost vault]

so still more rhan 9 times out of 10

sixk

[cursive lion]

[terse vale]

eeehhh its 1/1000 even though its happened to me twice

i’m not saying it doesn’t happen tho

oh my GOD MY FUCKING INTERNET

AAARRGGGHH

[tranquil oyster]

2.3% assuming you buy it on shop 1 ante 1

[pale wolf]

Like I know that it actually happens, but when is the chance for it to break actually changing your decision-making process

[cursive lion]

The cat stays

[lost vault]

which cant happen

but also wrong

[cloud sinew]

many times while I was streaking actually

[crystal field]

alright time to drive away

[tranquil oyster]

oh right i misread it as gros lmao

[lost vault]

2.3% is the chance it vanishes

[heady narwhal]

i love ragebaiting #🕹・game-discussion into interesting discussion

[cloud sinew]

Yes it can

[lost vault]

oh

[crystal field]

stuntman era

[white zodiac]

blackboard existing warps my play style into making more black suits. cavendish existing doesn't really change my play style as much as it's younger sibling screwing up my flow

[lost vault]

round 1 cav?

[pale wolf]

without skips though I assume

[lost vault]

but you have to play a round to get gros to perish

[cloud sinew]

yes. the round only increments when you select the blind

[terse vale]

at this point I might factor it into that

[robust lance]

this kicks fucking ass

[cloud sinew]

which puts you at round 1

you start at round 0

[lost vault]

ugh

what.ever

[heady narwhal]

round counter increments when blind is selected

[pale wolf]

could you give an example

[cursive prairie]

why is it so pixelated

[safe moat]

Hey all

[heady narwhal]

you can get a cavendish in the round 1 shop with a charm tag for judgement

[cloud sinew]

I had a full deck of black cards with Cavendish and blackboard was presented, so I took blackboard over Cavendish (actual scenario)

[robust lance]

your eyes are pixelated

[lost vault]

by the time you get cav round 1 will have passd

[cursive prairie]

your game is pixelated lil bro

[pale wolf]

yeah you can only do it with skips

[heady narwhal]

but then you still have 21 chances for it to die so it doesn't really matter

[lost vault]

and im gonna say skips count as a roind too because they make the run take less time

[robust lance]

i dont CAR

VROOM. VROOM.

[pale wolf]

I see I see
are there any more, less obvious instances maybe

[robust lance]

OH SHIT A TREE

[white zodiac]

I holy yap

[lost vault]

the earlist you can get cav is right before the ante 1 boss blind

[safe moat]

I started reattempting black deck and the hardest hurdle I’ve learned is the ante 2 ante 3 progression

[white zodiac]

maybe if you need a more stable second x mult against vessel

[lost vault]

from there it has a .999^22 chance to stay with you the whole game

[heady narwhal]

hieroglyph

[cloud sinew]

this isn't true cause of heiro/petro

[lost vault]

frick

i forgot vounchwrs

[cloud sinew]

ante -1 be damned

[safe moat]

The forbidden ante

[pale wolf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1387860177939726448/1403122996796854423/2025080723021400-EE327B3F1EA16B12FE45F55BCABC4BD6.mov?ex=691d895f&is=691c37df&hm=4b7e83715b1e3dc8c6e7c6551ad2d37fd3deb348e68da818c0a3cbcbd3cafce8&

this is the earliest Cavendish break I've ever seen

[heady narwhal]

ante 0 small blind i think

[lost vault]

maybe u could get cav by ante 0 small blind??

unless buying heiro and petro in 1 round drains all ur money

[lament crater]

hai

[heady narwhal]

1. voucher tag
2. gros michel + hiero + petro in big blind shop
3. gros michel breaks in a-1 boss blind
4. cav in shop

[cloud sinew]

theoretically you only need $1 cause rental

[lost vault]

oh oki

[tranquil oyster]

play yellow deck, buy the magician and heiro in the first shop

[lost vault]

soo yea ante 0 sb

[lost vault]

what

[hollow temple]

Oh HELL YEA!

[cloud sinew]

#⚙・modding-general

[heady narwhal]

this seems unbalanced

[lament crater]

YURIIIIIII

[lost vault]

wow really

what gave it away

[pale wolf]

How are you supposed to win a game without playing a straight though

[safe moat]

Strush

[lament crater]

just

be gay

ez

[heady narwhal]

the part that says no straights. how the shit am i going to win if the single best handtype is restricted

[lost vault]

be gay

[pale wolf]

The hardest part of my c++ was getting lucky enough to unlock order

[heady narwhal]

i think they should add new game plus back into balatro

[safe moat]

Mad lad

[heady narwhal]

(faster ante scaling but +1 joker slot, can be stacked up to 3 times)

[tranquil oyster]

new game plus and green joker is red now

[coarse silo]

How do you even make new game plus

[cursive lion]

what pride flag is that i cant tell with half of them being too bright with how you capture it

[coarse condor]

hmm what do I dump here?

[wintry ice]

lesbiab

[coarse condor]

I’m thinking removing photo and Chad for mime baron

[heady narwhal]

#🕹・game-discussion message

[safe moat]

What’re you doing here

[cursive lion]

isn't the lesbian flag like a bit darker/lower in contrast

[coarse condor]

less bien

[pale wolf]

I ain't clicking that shit, who knows what's on the other side

[coarse condor]

girls.

[tranquil oyster]

how many kings you got?

[cursive lion]

the doors reference...

[robust lance]

"I'm gonna need a glass card to beat this plant!"
the ever so convenient reroll boss blind skip tag:

[coarse condor]

7 right now, none of them steel or red seal lol

so tempting

[robust lance]

insantly pulls a flush of clubs

[tranquil oyster]

imo sticking with photo is the better choice here but its white stake, you won either way

[coarse condor]

trying to go naneinf unseeded, I’m tryna gamble for the ante 39

just don’t have the game knowledge for it yet lol

perhaps I remove scary and smiley instead

[fervent wolf]

This game

Tryna make me baron mime

[tranquil oyster]

oh yeah, idk what to do then lmao

[cursive lion]

maybe play the game well enough before you try to strive for naneinf

[lost vault]

naneinf and ante 39 are technically two different beasts

[coarse condor]

perhaps

[coarse condor]

this is why I come to a community forum for guidance no?

[tranquil oyster]

naneinf is tangentially related to regular balatro gameplay

[cursive lion]

true true but its like putting the cart before the horse

while we are always willing to help or answer any questions realisticly being able to score naneinf unseeded requries know how of the game that just comes with time

[fervent wolf]

Baron mime is just not an option here because of the two hanging Chads, right

[cursive lion]

yeah honestly especially since you got two tribs

[fervent wolf]

It sucks that the chads are both eternal tho

And foil so I can't even ecto them

They're just

There

[cursive lion]

unless you want to take a gamble and sell chicot (chigoat) for baron

[robust lance]

eeeyikes!!! i just started this game and these two vampires tried to jump me!!!

[rocky nest]

yea like
you need to know how to play game well before trying to do other stuff like naneinf or ante 39
i did my first naneinf after having about 200 hours in the game, and already knowing the strategy for it, with watching many videos from roffle and drspectred
rlly its not that easy at it seems

[cursive lion]

puts the BALM in balm poker

[fervent wolf]

Not worth, I don't have perkeo, and the 2 poly tribs make it so that there's no space for enough copy jokers

[heady narwhal]

my favorite antisynergy

[cursive lion]

nuff said

[cursive lion]

put a midas mask between trust 🙏

[fervent wolf]

Honestly, I'm just looking for a copy joker or Sock

[cursive lion]

good idea

[robust lance]

now these mfs are jumping me

[heady narwhal]

my favorite boss blind vulnerability

[rocky nest]

heading 5k flushes soon

[lyric shore]

jeez

[cursive lion]

the physic is coming

[robust lance]

the very lucky first shop juggler:

(shoutout juggler)

[cursive lion]

just juggling em balls for papi

[heady narwhal]

juggler my beloved

[fathom trellis]

asdfkjasdfkjasfdhkjahsdf this fucking bs i drew through my entire deck except the 1 card i needed......

[robust lance]

multi is multi

has 0 uncommons

[floral mural]

what does dna even do here

[potent tree]

unfortunate this was boss but reserved parking is already stickered. glass gets sticker tho so i'm happy

[robust lance]

lets me duplicate for eventually three of a kinds and higher

(eventually)

[floral mural]

with 5 hand size i wouldnt bet on it tbh

[robust lance]

oh yeah i'll certainly take a weegee here!

[pale wolf]

why not

[robust lance]

it would be mad funny if i duped stuntman again

(taking incant for more enhancements)

got murdered by the needle

[pale wolf]

somebody used DNA

[robust lance]

WRONG.

i just didnt score enough

[pale wolf]

Should have used DNA

[sharp falcon]

Why have I never used certificate before it's stupidly op

[haughty widget]

viable builds for purple stake?

[twin lantern]

why is it red o,o?

[pale wolf]

It's pretty good, not sure why you haven't used it

[robust lance]

double throwback

viable build

trust

[robust lance]

WHAAAAATTT

it let me hit a wheel of fortune though!

hologrpahic no less!

[fervent wolf]

Ggs

[pale wolf]

[fervent wolf]

It's over here

[haughty widget]

this actually seems viable tho

[robust lance]

thats basically all the multi i need!

[haughty widget]

or am i stupid

[robust lance]

especially if you get an ankh in a spectral skip

yes you are silly

this is wildly sutpid

but funa f

i LOVE throwback!

[haughty widget]

but number go up

[robust lance]

he won 4 of my goldstakes!

[pale wolf]

almost guaranteed he lost more

😭

[robust lance]

nope

because he didnt appear

[pale wolf]

show the balatrostats

[robust lance]

idk how to do that nor do i care

[serene forge]

r/balatro user goes apeshit after getting garbage from a skip tag

[pale wolf]

seems that I'm right again

[robust lance]

???

idk what you mean brotato

[pale wolf]

😎

[robust lance]

BLUNDER SUPER REACT?!

im finished...

[flint tapir]

i think hes just sad cus he didnt see photochad

[pale wolf]

How do you super react

[robust lance]

look at this silly goose

(affectionate)

[haughty widget]

am i weird

[pale wolf]

I want to know so I can avoid it in the future

[pale wolf]

You aren't weird, just new

[serene forge]

nah

[white zodiac]

top right

[heady narwhal]

if you have c++ then these are weird stats

[flint tapir]

lowkey yes

[robust lance]

occassionally

[haughty widget]

im kinda freaky like that

[heady narwhal]

i think splash is weird

[flint tapir]

i only see 2 good jokers there.....

[serene forge]

I hate Smiley Face

[leaden blaze]

Tbf he did win 1 of 3 of my gold stake wins

Throwback is decent

[pale wolf]

I'm sure it's possible to have C+ plus with stats like that but I don't think it's feasible

[leaden blaze]

Xmult is xmult

[floral mural]

me when only like 1 tag is consistently viable to skip for and only on ante 1. the rest all require increasingly ridiculous conditions to be good

[haughty widget]

genuinely though anyone got tips for clearing ourple

[serene forge]

baron is also xmult

[haughty widget]

why he ourple

[pale wolf]

Not when it's removing your ability to scale anything else

[floral mural]

im pretty polychrome isnt even tbe best edition tag since foil and holo carry early way more than xmult

[heady narwhal]

throwback is only good when you're already fullskipping

[pale wolf]

I think polychrome is the best edition for Jokers but not for playing cards

[leaden blaze]

I mean thats in hand scoring so thats different. Happens before jokers so less value also forces you to dig for kings so less value

[robust lance]

i love full skipping

[serene forge]

they're both awful is the point

[heady narwhal]

e.g. if you massively fucked up an obelisk run or if your only xmult is a perishable loyalty card and you just got hit by the ox

[pale wolf]

I would love to see a run like that second one

[flint tapir]

negative

[white zodiac]

I like foil better

[leaden blaze]

Throwback can be good. Id only take them if id already done a skip or 2 but they can save you

[floral mural]

im talking for skip tags. since those tags are already almost always useless. polychrome does less early game than foil or holo. polys obviously better but yeah early its not as good as the others imo

[pale wolf]

oh I guess since you would only take them early than holographic would be the best one?

[heady narwhal]

here you go

[heady narwhal]

i have to add that the burglar was in the final shop or pretty close to it iirc

[flint tapir]

negative tag

[pale wolf]

is that glyph voucher

[leaden blaze]

Like the gold stake game i won with throwback I already double skipped ante 1 for investment and rare joker cause fun

[pale wolf]

awesome

[white zodiac]

I take foil in the sense that mult jokers are already mad in abundance

and easier to scale

[robust lance]

triple throwback strats???

[final briar]

that feeling when you're playing anaglyph deck to make completionist++ and the negative tag finally shows up on ante 8 small blind 🥳

[heady narwhal]

i did not get any glyph vouchers

[pale wolf]

I'm confused

[flint tapir]

wheres the photograph

[robust lance]

honestly wish it was the vessel instead

[robust lance]

ion need it

[earnest pelican]

Hilarious two nat negatives, even if the smiley is doing basically nothing

[heady narwhal]

20 rounds played + 4 rounds skipped

[earnest pelican]

We love thematic jokers

[floral mural]

so for throwback to be useful you need to have 3 of it and other jokers tk carry. truly a joker of all time

[lyric shore]

yea that math is perfect lol 4 skips

[pale wolf]

and you get how much per throwback skip

[fathom trellis]

it always shows up on ante 8 big blind for me

[heady narwhal]

x0.25

[robust lance]

actually drivers just came into effect

[heady narwhal]

starting at x1

[robust lance]

like ltierally last blind

[pale wolf]

oh..

[flint tapir]

PHOTOCHAD

[lyric shore]

did you think it was .5

[unreal island]

Round 24

[pale wolf]

im not sure why i thought it didnt match up

[robust lance]

rock hard

[flint tapir]

rock and stone

[unreal island]

Rock hard

[leaden blaze]

I mean sure it has drawbacks but so do all the other scaling xmult besides constellation

[pale wolf]

The drawbacks massively outweigh the upsides unless there's no way To gain anything in the run anymore

[unreal island]

Me when i play balatro

(Me playing balatro)

[white zodiac]

im putting this on the naughty list

[heady narwhal]

the other scaling xmults have very minor drawbacks compared to "you don't get to scale anything else and this joker scales really really slow"

[unreal island]

Vamp maybe but like eh

[robust lance]

uncropped screenshot why do you ask

[heady narwhal]

even when you fullskip, throwback scales way way slower than the blinds

when you skip both blinds you're in a worse place than you were before even with throwback

[flint tapir]

😭

[earnest pelican]

Lol now I just need another hanging Chad or a blueprint and the build is complete

[pale wolf]

I feel like throwback should be scaling high enough that you should be able to take the top 50/25% of skip tags viably

[pale wolf]

Right now it just seems useless

[flint tapir]

bros playinh photophotophotophotochad

[white zodiac]

madness or obby licks could be the only reasonable pickup for its utility

[heady narwhal]

throwback should be x0.5 since it's sort of like reverse madness

[robust lance]

now THIS is a banger start

[leaden blaze]

Idk i think vampire has a pretty major drawback of not being able to use enhancements and hologram has a pretty bad drawbsck of having to screw up your deck fixing (unless dna)

[heady narwhal]

you can use gold cards which are the best enhancement

[pale wolf]

this, except I don't even know if that would justify skipping a lot

madness is already a scary play

[leaden blaze]

And obelisk of course has a major drawback of it reseting

[heady narwhal]

on pair builds most other enhancements are pretty useless

[white zodiac]

what about retroactive x0.5

[heady narwhal]

no it doesn't

[robust lance]

oh who am i kidding, this is not that good

[white zodiac]

and some skip tweaks

[pale wolf]

well I assume it would still be retroactive like it is now

[floral mural]

obelisk and bus dont reset. reset is just a loss condition youre meant to avoid

in gameplay

[leaden blaze]

You have to put a lot of effort into playing around it thats a drawback

[white zodiac]

wdym#🕹・game-discussion message

[pale wolf]

I mean it is the restriction that obelisk provides

[earnest pelican]

I love when I have so many photographs I don't even need to care about optimizing my joker order

[white zodiac]

oh yeah 1.0 brain

[robust lance]

reset and i started with a joker that needs to destroy cards to gain scoring

i am NOT getting hanged man now

[floral mural]

also whatever downside another scaling xmult provides doesnt outweigh "if you wanna scale this joker you have to skip a lot of shops and lose massive amount of value"

[leaden blaze]

God im not saying obelisk is bad where are you getting this from

[heady narwhal]

a pretty small one all things considered

[floral mural]

having to think to use a joker isnt a real downside honestly

[white zodiac]

you're saying it takes a lot of effort which is statically not true

[heady narwhal]

throwback isn't good enough to ever really change your skipping decisions

[hasty harness]

WHAT

i hate thinking

[heady narwhal]

which means that it'll stay at x1 or x1.25 unless you were already going to skip

[floral mural]

i wonder if a 0.5x scaling throwback per skip used would be good

[white zodiac]

would you rather skip an entire round worth of benefits to get score

or play 1 hand/add 1 card

[floral mural]

i mean 2 skips for 2x sounds crisp

[craggy lantern]

can any1 let me know if they are able to get past ante 5 with this seed and setup i cant get past it.
FSR7I6P7 gold stake black deck

[floral mural]

and feasible

[hasty harness]

ill try it rq

[heady narwhal]

yeah that does sound nice as an emergency play

[leaden blaze]

Yes it is? You need to build up high card or something and then pivot out of it and that takes skill

[white zodiac]

pairs*

[heady narwhal]

pairs*

[leaden blaze]

Sure pairs

[heady narwhal]

i figured out obelisk after using it like once or twice

it's not that hard

it definitely takes more thought than your average lobotomy but i'd consider that an upside

[floral mural]

i thought learning a new skill in a game was fun why is that a downside

[leaden blaze]

Also its not always viable to use obelisk. If you get it later sometimes pivoting out of your hand your playing will kill you

[floral mural]

every joker has a time its not viable

[uneven jasper]

new best that couldve gone one ante further if i didnt go under $10 trying to roll for glass cards </3 but still cool

[floral mural]

literally every single one

[pale wolf]

yeah when I first bought balatro I opened the game and realized that I didn't know how to play it so I just closed it for a year
/s

[heady narwhal]

it's basically never viable to use throwback

[leaden blaze]

Yes but that doesnt make it not a significant restriction?

[floral mural]

blueprint and brainstorm also have times taking them is basically throwing

[heady narwhal]

every scaling xmult has a downside but some sides are more down than others

[leaden blaze]

Im saying all of the scaling xmult have significant restrictikns

[white zodiac]

no because it rewards you for doing what you're already doing in the majority of gs

[pale wolf]

are we comparing a potential best xmult with the potential worst xmult

[cursive prairie]

if u have perkeo + observatory is naneinf assured?

[heady narwhal]

constellation has a drawback (it's expensive as shit)

[pale wolf]

no

you need copy jokers

[floral mural]

ok ngl brainstorm pisses me off more than it should. its not a bad joker but that xmult restriction be kinda annoting

[heady narwhal]

i think it's cooler than blueprint

[pale wolf]

i dont like brainstorm v much

[void topaz]

were you always blue

[shell dagger]

just play plasma deck where they’re basically as good as each other 🙂

[earnest pelican]

Brainstorm has a really cool design, I think it's cooler too even if Blueprint is better outright.

[heady narwhal]

blueprint is fun but it comes with very little decision-making

you take it and you win

[pale wolf]

no it is recent

[heady narwhal]

brainstorm i don't always take which is cool

[white zodiac]

i don't put it at the top 10 for that reason, can't be overpowered in that sense of matter where you have to think

[leaden blaze]

No im just saying basically all scaling xmult have downsides so i dont get why people are so down on throwback. Its one of the worst scaling xmults but that still makes it a pretty decent joker

[pale wolf]

art wise yes brainstorm is cooler

[void topaz]

ok that makes sense

[earnest pelican]

This is the easiest legendary skip ever

[void topaz]

ok but

trib

its always trib

[pale wolf]

because all scaling xmult besides throwback have upsides 🤪

[void topaz]

may was well check if its trib

[void topaz]

cavendish walks in the room

[heady narwhal]

scaling

[void topaz]

fuck

anyway

[coarse condor]

things are constantly happening

[leaden blaze]

Cavendish isnt a scaling xmult

[heady narwhal]

i guess cavendish scales downwards

[void topaz]

does black board uhhh

[white zodiac]

tries to think of a worse x mult scaler

[pale wolf]

but fr throwback simply doesnt work as it is currently in the game
it doesnt reward skipping enough to outweigh the catastrophic and unavoidable loss of shops and round money/value

[void topaz]

does black board if no cards in hand

[pale wolf]

yes

[heady narwhal]

"gros michel is the only joker that scales its operation" -someone in game discussion i think

[robust fulcrum]

This ain’t photo Chad this is video chad

[void topaz]

but not with stone cards

hmmm

[coarse condor]

3fps solid bro

[void topaz]

thats pecuilar

[pale wolf]

I only recently realized the theming behind invisible joker becoming any Joker

[void topaz]

if it stands infront it it its that one

kinda like stencil if you think about it

[earnest pelican]

Even if it is, I don't have my deck fixed and it's Ante 10

It would be too late for it to matter much at all

I'm just trying to plow through all the decks on mobile and get C+ a second time tbh

[heady narwhal]

my favorite nonscaling xmult is campfire

[lavish compass]

thats just so rude

[void topaz]

its just like better photo though if your skipping it your keeping showman which allows for weaker photo i guess

[white zodiac]

i
oh

[pale wolf]

I mean you're playing photo chad, trib fits right in

[white zodiac]

true

[heady narwhal]

eternal stm pog

[void topaz]

not weaker photo

normal photo

weaker trib

[heady narwhal]

it's my favorite joker

[earnest pelican]

It's 1/5, I'd rather not take the risk when I have a Showman and Photo is a common anyways lol

[leaden blaze]

Im not saying throwback is amazing but I still maintain the fact they arent awful.

[pale wolf]

shoot the moon is a pretty good hit

[earnest pelican]

Much better odds to just find another

[void topaz]

its always high card

[white zodiac]

no it's my favorite joker

[void topaz]

i mean like just check

[heady narwhal]

based

[pale wolf]

are these the same profile in different points of time

[ionic trail]

How do I win with this build? This build stinks

[white zodiac]

what scaling x mult performs worse on average in gs

[pale wolf]

/s

[white zodiac]

sos

[lavish compass]

my most played jokers are HORRIBLE

[heady narwhal]

i think loyalty card is better than throwback

[leaden blaze]

What does gs mean

[void topaz]

this guy does NOT play gold stake

[white zodiac]

grilled sausage

[heady narwhal]

(almost) no scaling +mult

[leaden blaze]

Oh gold stake

[heady narwhal]

glue

[pale wolf]

glue stake

[lavish compass]

idk im just trying to get through all the decks.

[void topaz]

like white stake on all the decks

[leaden blaze]

As i say worst scaling xmult in gold stake? Probably but that far from makes it a bad joker

[pale wolf]

imagine playing 1000 rounds trying to win 15 white stakes

[leaden blaze]

Ok maybe madness is worse

[void topaz]

ok lets math

[cursive lion]

at least throwback looks cool

[pale wolf]

what the fuck

[heady narwhal]

no it's not

madness is awesome

[lavish compass]

ive done goldstake on all decks before thisghost deck

[void topaz]

its littearly only good black and above what

[pale wolf]

I will say throwback has some pretty kickass glasses

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[cursive lion]

<@&1133519078540185692>

[twin lantern]

WHOA

[heady narwhal]

i can't believe mr beast is giving away free money!!!

[cosmic sun]

bro got token grabbed

[heady narwhal]

wait it's a different scam

[twin lantern]

i almst clicked on that what the fuck

[cursive lion]

mister breast give me money ,,,,

[pale wolf]

different one

lol

[void topaz]

lowkey surely i click it

what if its real

[pale wolf]

for a new free MINT
what like a tic tac

[cursive lion]

i mean yeah

[cursive lion]

yeah

[stiff crow]

🔫

[white zodiac]

[cursive lion]

cannot believe it

[tranquil cedar]

omg yes!! as an impressionable child I will click on this liNO THEY DELETED IT

[cosmic sun]

you got a virus to scan dawg

[pale wolf]

My response

[cursive lion]

come back with icebreakers or livesavers

[void topaz]

ive never liked mint flavoured stuff

[white zodiac]

oh

[cursive lion]

but its still a strong uncommon joker

[void topaz]

not like

dishes

[white zodiac]

too much mouthwash

[balmy ridge]

?av

[sturdy creek]

carp244

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[void topaz]

with like seasoning

[cursive lion]

say that again

[white zodiac]

r u ok

buster wolf

[pale wolf]

madness scales literally twice as fast as throwback AND lets you use shops and blinds

[tranquil cedar]

that's odd

[tranquil cedar]

elite ball knowledge

[void topaz]

madness is also like a fun challenge run

ONLY TAKE ETERNALS CHALLENGE

[heady narwhal]

madness is my favorite straights joker

[void topaz]

this guys spitting

[pale wolf]

It's like oh no, now because of madness you have to take that eternal mid +mult that is now perfectly serviceable bc of how fast madness scales

[white zodiac]

aj is my favorite straights joker

and my least favorite flush joker

[cursive lion]

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2475490/view/842863696559472762?l=english

[void topaz]

for some reason whenever i do straights an evil creature in my mind makes me want to make steel cards

[pale wolf]

i have to admit it

[cursive lion]

i love it that the first piece of fan art was balatro themed its like it knew why i was clicking on it

[pale wolf]

i tried it;
i hate playing straights

[cursive lion]

but i love playing gays

[void topaz]

lowkey deck fix bozo

and still miss the draw

[heady narwhal]

i usually avoid playing straights but i find it pretty fun when i do

[pale wolf]

Even on abandoned

[lavish compass]

do i buy anything here?

[white zodiac]

idk how many straight builds I've played on black deck

[void topaz]

i pop the 2 packs

[tardy spade]

Balatro challenge for you: In ante 2, get a score that is a prime number

[heady narwhal]

they're way more fun to play than pairs that's for sure

[void topaz]

like its grabber

but i pop the packs

[pale wolf]

is the boss next

[lavish compass]

no small blind

[pale wolf]

I would save your money for the next two shops

[void topaz]

what

[cursive lion]

honestly if i were you either save or get the spectral pack

[void topaz]

oh wait this is ante 3

lmao

[heady narwhal]

i like chaos the clown but probably not worth it also ante 3 round 4 what the shit

maybe grabber

[hasty harness]

but immolate in the spectral!

[tranquil cedar]

get boss blind that debuffs suit
high card
boom

[hasty harness]

trust!

[heady narwhal]

maybe spectral

[void topaz]

i pop spectral and move on

[pale wolf]

ante 3 round 4 im like

[prime valve]

Spectral. Might be ankh

[white zodiac]

my personal red seal members list:

raisedfistcultleader
angrymonkey
tonyonionsan
mpregfan1777
yeahitschips
normal name
jokerscott
crumpet
fancastle
smartboi
misprint
lost girl
cruiser
tnmoxa
kamper
uranu
ricky
quasi
benja
tenna
tuppy
goot
bige
ken

i'll update this once it arrives on the 11th floor where it gets buried

[void topaz]

ankh is not the bhi

hit

[lavish compass]

erm

[void topaz]

oooo

[pale wolf]

wtf new meta just dropped

[cursive lion]

trying to summon throwback but its on dail up

[void topaz]

tough

[hasty harness]

i mean talisman is still value over the course of the run

[heady narwhal]

talisman ok

[void topaz]

maybe its not always spectral

[lavish compass]

talisman on jack or ace?

[heady narwhal]

aces are easier to score

[pale wolf]

ace

[cursive lion]

honetly tailsman since you will need all the econ you can get

[pale wolf]

The Jack is going to become a queen

[lavish compass]

ok thank you

[pale wolf]

and then you can't play it

[void topaz]

i mean if the gold seal is the queen

you wanna make more of it

[pale wolf]

valid point

[hasty harness]

but ur playing stm.

[heady narwhal]

you can death it but it's a bit too longterm

[white zodiac]

aces are harder to pseudo discard

so ace

[void topaz]

it depends on the tarots

[heady narwhal]

i'd want to get immediate value out of that seal to make up for skipping 2+ rounds for whatever reason

[void topaz]

i think if you have purple seals you do that but normally not

or like vagabond or some shit

[pale wolf]

I'm like they skipped so much but where's the money

[void topaz]

purple seals are so good when theyre awake

[pale wolf]

stay woke

[north spindle]

dna would also make the talisman on queen play work well

[void topaz]

say that to the seals

[void topaz]

thats bassicaly my point

[heady narwhal]

how likely is that

[void topaz]

but like all copiers

death mostly

death mostly?

ted mosby?

[north spindle]

pretty bad unless one of their skips was a rare tag that put dna in shop lol

[slow iris]

kinda awesome pack

[heady narwhal]

nice

[void topaz]

imolate into ecto ship it

[north spindle]

wraith doing something? what

[heady narwhal]

inb4 baron

[void topaz]

wraith ecto ship it

[cursive lion]

so many good options here actually

[white zodiac]

theres too many steps for the reward payout to be worth

they said jack as well

[void topaz]

deju vu first

into immolate

lose it

and cry

[heady narwhal]

i think wraith immolate is the only option here

[cursive prairie]

?av

[sturdy creek]

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[slow iris]

camp fire

[cursive lion]

wraith and then ecto/immolate

[void topaz]

immolate first then wraith

[cursive lion]

depends on the joker you get

[void topaz]

and cry

[north spindle]

i mean ecto immolate could work but we dont see their jokers

[void topaz]

its not actually ecto

[heady narwhal]

early ecto is bad

[void topaz]

im lying

[heady narwhal]

it's like black deck

[north spindle]

not taking immolate sounds like a good way to die of poverty

[void topaz]

i do like deja vu though

[heady narwhal]

i hate deja vu

[cursive lion]

deja vu is good but honestly only if you have a joker that relies on card scoring like

[robust lance]

stuntman's back must be broken the way he's hard carrying me

[void topaz]

and wraith is like the order anyway

[valid abyss]

hint: jonkler

[slow iris]

ride the bus and wily

had to take wily to survive

[pale wolf]

deja vu is better than lovers

[cursive lion]

something like wee joker

[void topaz]

cavendish

[heady narwhal]

if red seals retriggered discard effects like hrt and ramen i might like it a bit more

[void topaz]

lol

[north spindle]

yeah id much rather wraith then

[robust lance]

hole letter n plate

[tranquil cedar]

holenplate 🗣️

[hasty harness]

SPLASH

[valid abyss]

so close

[robust lance]

we should make out like NOW.

[tranquil cedar]

damn you beat me to it

[tranquil cedar]

LMAOAOAOOAOO

[cursive lion]

idk i mean its chips but have effectively four yoricks is probably how you are winning

[pale wolf]

CAve N porcelIOn

[white zodiac]

everything reminds me of her

[cursive lion]

if you want to take advantage of stuntman maybe do half and half on the brainstorms? since you can copy the chips

[valid abyss]

THIS IS THE HIDDEN MEANING !!!!!!!!!!!

[void topaz]

thats

[valid abyss]

they cracked the code

[minor portal]

they what the code

[void topaz]

thats not

[robust lance]

always feel good to oneshot the vessel

[void topaz]

dyslexia?

[cursive lion]

say that again

[tranquil cedar]

someone finally gets it

[pale wolf]

OneShot

[robust lance]

always feel good to HALF LIFE 2 the vessel

[void topaz]

portel lion

hmmm

[valid abyss]

read that again sideways backwards and upside down at 2x speed and come back to me

[heady narwhal]

new blue stake: discards each cost $1

[cursive lion]

high on hopium

[robust lance]

one for each foot

[void topaz]

grimbo is here now

[pale wolf]

I think you'll find that it is indeed made of porcelion

[cursive lion]

golden needle, is that you?

[pale wolf]

honestly?

[valid abyss]

unfortunately both are left boots

[pale wolf]

this is basically just red stake again

[robust lance]

i'll rotate it in a 4th dimension

[cursive lion]

RED STEAK 🗣️

[void topaz]

what does this mena

mean

[white zodiac]

econ deficiency

[north spindle]

discards costing $1 more sounds like early game rng gets multiplied by like a billion

[pale wolf]

making discards -$1 is just removing more money from each blind reward essentially

[void topaz]

bro

[north spindle]

i would rather have what it is now than that i think

[pale wolf]

I would not like it

[void topaz]

steak can be red normally

why is it artifically red

[valid abyss]

creative liberties

[pale wolf]

at first I thought I would like it but then I realized that I would not like it

[cursive lion]

i mean if steak is normally red its like calling a tomato vegan

[pale wolf]

uncooked steak is NSFL imo

[cursive lion]

usually if someone includes that it means is redDER

[valid abyss]

steak is like pinkish

not red

[void topaz]

no like

[heady narwhal]

new blue stake: money cannot exceed $50

[pale wolf]

fuck bootstraps in particular

[void topaz]

your not gonna believe this

[cursive lion]

bull and bootstraps will kill you

[pale wolf]

Bull would actually be okay still

[void topaz]

have you heard of balatro multiplayer

[white zodiac]

first buffoon pack is no longer affordable

[slow iris]

riff raff just gave me a polychrome jimbo

yay

[minor portal]

blue stake will remove gros michel from the pool of jokers

[void topaz]

lowkey bull is gas

[valid abyss]

new blue stake: balatro is altered to a blue hue for the entire run

[pale wolf]

they would probably just make the first buffoon pack free

[valid abyss]

bluelatro basically

i think thats a fair BLUE stake

[cursive lion]

what is wrong with you

why are you BLUE?

[void topaz]

how does this happen

[valid abyss]

Depression affects millions of americans worldwide. Reach out now

[minor portal]

why so blue

[pale wolf]

cuz I ain't got nobody to listen to

[valid abyss]

brought to you by antidepressants

[heady narwhal]

new blue stake: big blind gives no reward money

[minor portal]

sounds familiar.

[pale wolf]

this is too similar to gold stakes effect

[white zodiac]

this was not what I meant when I said to improve blind skipping

[cursive lion]

im the bluer baby

[heady narwhal]

new blue stake: -1 hand size

[fiery nymph]

baron is the best joker

[cursive lion]

that's actually... not a bad idea

[pale wolf]

now we're talking

[heady narwhal]

wrong

[white zodiac]

omg gs is back

[cursive lion]

that could actually work

[valid abyss]

this is actually good

[heady narwhal]

google balatro 1.0

[valid abyss]

with painted deck it would be pretty much ignored

[pale wolf]

what if it actually is this, but the default deck hand size also goes up by one

so white stake checker deck is guaranteed flushes

[cursive lion]

couldn't thunk bring back either for blue stake

[wintry ice]

-1 handsize is honestky worse than -1 discard

[white zodiac]

how about
-1 booster pack

[leaden blaze]

Pretty sure that was one of the old stakes that got changed

[heady narwhal]

they both sucked ass

which is why they were patched out

[pale wolf]

How about skips are disabled

New blue steak is small blinds no longer have skip tags

[cursive lion]

you cannot reroll the boss blind

[white zodiac]

hold on a minute

[wintry ice]

no investment tag

[valid abyss]

platinum stake

[slow iris]

wraith is actually fucking carrying hard rn

[white zodiac]

your writing could be fire

[heady narwhal]

new blue stake: rerolls increase by $2 each time instead of $1

[slow iris]

campfire my beloved

[pale wolf]

idk the markdown for that

[cursive lion]

flash card 🥀

[leaden blaze]

That seems decent honestly

[robust lance]

what if blue stake just isnt changed and its permanent

[pale wolf]

start at $6 instead kf $5

[lavish compass]

burglar good for shoot the moon?

[white zodiac]

this would be an incentive to vastly improve skipping for lower stakes and keep higher stakes more of the same

[pale wolf]

I like the game as it is so I don't really need blue stake to change