🕹・game-discussion

[buoyant ridge]

splash is so weak

[white zodiac]

I don't open packs on the first ante

[tranquil oyster]

yeah, nebula is the least fun deck in balatro

[pale wolf]

I like that anaglyph powers up 1 skip tag

[crimson kestrel]

just plan the funeral bro

[floral mural]

i love nebula deck i love less consumables for an upside which requires playing around it completely and if you draw bad too many times its offline

also wanna get back to playing one step from eden lol

good ass game

[pale wolf]

I can't afford all these new games to buy all the time but I do have pokémon ranger on my phone 🙂

[fading cobalt]

I love black deck, I love one less hand that kills me in early game for a useless upside in early game

[tranquil oyster]

i love stressing out during ante 1 big blind, "fuck, i had to play another high card... guess that ruins my celestial packs for now"

[buoyant ridge]

should i take 8 ball or faceless joker ?

[pale wolf]

8 ball seems like a fine take

[tranquil oyster]

faceless imo
although 8 ball can be good here due to splash

[floral mural]

8 balls funny but faceless probably does more here since gurranteed cash is better? id think at least

[fading cobalt]

Which has more potential, hack or buskin

[white zodiac]

busk

[pale wolf]

sock has more potential and also more risk

[eager lynx]

chat i noticed i cant do this on steam but whenever i played balatro through xbox live if i lost a run i could just.. continue from where i lost and try to play the hand better?

[fading cobalt]

What risk does sock have?

[pale wolf]

plant, maybe Mark

[eager lynx]

not that it always worked

[fading cobalt]

Yeah I don't wanna play face cards but hacks reliability is more forced

[floral mural]

i like hack more but im also fib brained i love me those low rank jokers

[fading cobalt]

I need fibonacci or wee

[pale wolf]

wut

[white zodiac]

treat sock as an econ enabler then

[fading cobalt]

Its eternal

[pale wolf]

sock is also incompatible with ride the bus which is a big thing

[fading cobalt]

Sock is infact a econ enabler cuz I got business card

[tardy spade]

What happens if you sell luchador and your scoring requirements go below the current score you have? Do you instantly win or do you have to play another hand?

[pale wolf]

You instantly win

[tardy spade]

Wait really?

[white zodiac]

victory screen

[pale wolf]

yup You win the round

[tardy spade]

Oh cool

[floral mural]

ok so what if i try doing black deck gold stake on the mobile save where its unlock all. as like practice i guess

[pale wolf]

from somebody in here that tested it

[floral mural]

if i get good or even decent at black deck thatll help my consistency lots

[dire crater]

"I was watching regular show and then"

[pale wolf]

I'll do a black run when I get home in solidarity

[fading cobalt]

The water almost fucking killed me cuz I didn't draw a pair in two hands

[white zodiac]

it's certainly helping me do random streak runs a lot more consistently

[tranquil oyster]

hard unlocks don't really matter much tbh
only one that matters is brainstorm, the rest arguably make your pool worse

[dire crater]

Black run, more like golden neddle with extra steps

[pale wolf]

simply draw better

[fading cobalt]

Could you elaborate on what jokers those are?

[fading cobalt]

I haven't learnt about draw timing yet

[floral mural]

in every roguelike i play i refuse to deliberately avoid unlocks tbh

[pulsar oar]

I mean, if you wanna get some achievements you need them unlocked

[humble dune]

GUYS

I NEED HELP

[fading cobalt]

I want my gahd damn Completionist

[robust lance]

tired of jokers being too expensive?
simply replace them with packs and gamble!

[pulsar oar]

Mainly completionist and completionist++

[pale wolf]

wtf

[floral mural]

is the item awful and unusable? cool i added a landmine to the pool i can choose not to take if it shows up

[buoyant ridge]

okay im cooked, during my run no chips jokers or anything showed up, only X mult jokers

[robust lance]

im robbing da store

[humble dune]

IM TRYING TO GOLD STAKE BLACK DECK AND THIS IS THE START OF MY RUN, HOW DO I NOT MESS THIS UP

[floral mural]

also adding like 2 jokers to a pool of 143 isnt gonna change enough come on

[pale wolf]

You've got a good start with holding fool and temperance

[fading cobalt]

Xmult and planets could've been a surviving synergy but ok

[humble dune]

I got the perkalator

Do I dupe the fool?

[crimson kestrel]

ante 3 splash and 8 ball 💔

[buoyant ridge]

why ? it doenst scale good

[fading cobalt]

?

[pale wolf]

doesn't really matter, I think you should probably use all the temperances once you buy another Joker for scoring

[floral mural]

me on ante 3 relying solely on planets (im cooked)

[humble dune]

I was thinking if I use the temperance now I can just fool later to get it back

[tranquil steppe]

Now you just need observatory and you’re cookin

[buoyant ridge]

yeah i didnt get any chips jokers so i had to rely on planets

[humble dune]

And isint there a joker that scales +mult on the amount of tarot you get

[humble dune]

I KNOW BUT IM SCAREDDDD

IM NOT THAT GOOD AT THE GAME 😭

[white zodiac]

oh gs black deck

[humble dune]

Yeah 😰

[tranquil oyster]

hit the road, merry andy, satellite, troubadour.
although ngl now that i look at the list again there a plenty of good jokers in there, i forgot about arrowhead and drivers license (plus stuntman obv)

[humble dune]

I'm trying to gold stake every deck one at a time, currently at black deck

[dire crater]

Black deck is the favorite deck of my autistic friend (for real)

[white zodiac]

well this can happen lol

[fading cobalt]

"only one that matters is brainstorm" is insane

[humble dune]

ITS SO TERRIFYING

[floral mural]

so this practice thing is uhh

[humble dune]

ESPECIALLY WITH SUCH A GOOD START

[floral mural]

thats the most terrifying investement tag of my life dawg

[fading cobalt]

Ew black clubs

[crimson kestrel]

take it trust

[dire crater]

Racist

[fading cobalt]

I knew someone was gonna say that

[white zodiac]

so yeah you don’t take it

[buoyant ridge]

what now ?

[dire crater]

And still you said it anyways

racist

This pozole is so good

[tranquil steppe]

You can do it!

[humble dune]

I got this guys 🥹

[humble dune]

I'll keep updates up

[buoyant ridge]

i wantched balatro university and it wasnt really helpful

[floral mural]

well i did and survived and uhh

[buoyant ridge]

what should i do here ? planets ?

[white zodiac]

oh geez

[dire crater]

i hate 8ball

I hate it

[floral mural]

game giving me the most busted easiest run only for it to die since its on black deck with -1 hand

[dire crater]

Hate it

[pale wolf]

this is just as unavoidable as r1 constellation

[white zodiac]

erm ackshually your case was more outrageous

[fading cobalt]

Fuck pairs

[pale wolf]

I think literally one Early priestess with a relevant hand would have saved that run

[fading cobalt]

I had sly and jolly and still died by ante 3

[white zodiac]

and i wasn’t on a streak

[pale wolf]

these days I'm never on a streak 😎

[fading cobalt]

The eye is a bitch

[white zodiac]

me in november

[languid pecan]

red card might actually overtake chad one of these days

[trail holly]

ive never seen a poly yorick before, looks really cool

[fading cobalt]

Is that 3 polys???

[pale wolf]

editions on legendaries and hologram always sort of disappoint me

[trail holly]

wheel was on my side today

[floral mural]

so uhh i take runner here right?

[fading cobalt]

Holy shit THEY ALL CAME FROM WHEEL?

[floral mural]

using abstract as my flat mult is sketchy tho

[white zodiac]

yeah

[trail holly]

no pants was a hex but the rest were wheel

[fading cobalt]

Oh

[languid pecan]

this is like the perfect situation to play only straights

if possible

[fading cobalt]

Okay thats still crazy

[white zodiac]

it works, currently one of my most used jokers rn

[trail holly]

2 polys from wheel is kinda crazy

ive never had that happen ngl

[harsh elk]

Free bottom surgery

[pale wolf]

15 is plenty of base mult for obelisk

[white zodiac]

18*

[thorny axle]

lock me up and melt down the key

[pale wolf]

got to keep a slot open for campfire

/s

[white zodiac]

oh of course

[languid pecan]

holographic mr bones is so nice

[pale wolf]

vampire and scholar sometimes look alike at a glance

[nova mantle]

watcha think bout this idea i had

[thorny axle]

look at the round counter

[buoyant ridge]

what should i do here ?

[thorny axle]

a bit niche but i like it

[languid pecan]

why. you better be doing the speedrunner achievement

[floral mural]

so time to work on playing those straight huh

[white zodiac]

or 2oak

[languid pecan]

you have the run

the holy run

[pale wolf]

purple seal, rebate, htr, aaaaaand maybe trading card?
double scaling for yorick/castle?
it wouldn't interact with faceless because that isn't a card effect exactly

[fading cobalt]

I swear this game is rigged, I have onyx and four fingers yet still cant draw a clubs flush

[pulsar oar]

Makes you not have to hoard stuff like gold cards in your hand which effectively reduces your hand size, lowkey perfect uncommon, great effect

Oh wait

[unreal island]

New joker idea:

Pine Needle (Uncommon)
Discards have a 1 in 2 chance to also count as a Hand

[pulsar oar]

I'm

Stupid

I misread it

[thorny axle]

i saw a negative tag and a investment tag cut me some slack

speaking of negatives NAT NEGATIVE RAISED FIST

[pulsar oar]

I read it as trigger, not REtrigger

[fading cobalt]

So when you discard it could be scoring?

Imagine picking up pine needle and getting a royal flush and it triggers so you unlock brainstorm with no downside

[white zodiac]

that would be absolute bullcrap on a select amount of boss blinds

[languid pecan]

ooo that actually makes it sound more fun to me lmao

[fading cobalt]

Bro can banana PLEASE die

[languid pecan]

tryna discard on on the tooth

too bad -5 dollars

[nova mantle]

yup, double scaling for rick and castle and similar cards is the idea
rebate would work coz the card itself procs it, but things like grimbo and faceless would seem unnafected, since the effect is procced by the discard itself and not a specific card
of course, this would be the worst joker to pair with ramen tho

[unreal island]

Yeah

It counts as a hand as well as a discard

So it triggers rtb, grimbo, obelisk, etc

Even my goat vagabondithan

[nova mantle]

thats what mime does 😭

but yeah yall get it

[fading cobalt]

BRO BANANA WONT DIE

[nova mantle]

im working on the card art rn, its very fun learning to do a lil work of pixel art

[buoyant ridge]

should i take negative idol this early ?

[open temple]

I am on my craziest run ever

[unborn cliff]

ok buddy

[open temple]

Since I started playing the game

[pale wolf]

I think that red seals should just retrigger discard effects as is

[open temple]

I run a glass king deck, I have dna, blueprint, brainstorm, triboulet and a lot of more

[pale wolf]

so I think this is a fine Joker idea if it is added with other Jokers so that retriggers aren't bloating uncommons

[open temple]

Glass joker carries with close to 16x mult

[unreal island]

Rebate buff!

[pale wolf]

keeping in mind that everything would happen at once, Blue stake would get changed and rebate certainly nerfed

perhaps it would need the buff

[unreal island]

I mean its prob gonna get nerfed to 3 or 4

So it wont be that bad

[nova mantle]

would be a nice upgrade tbh, tho what is missing is some way to retrigger purple seals the same way blue seals do with mime

[unreal island]

Purples so strong it doesnt need that

[nova mantle]

blue seals are strong too

even more than purple id say

[pale wolf]

tbh i hope blue seal mime gets gutted by needing showman for duplicates next update

[white zodiac]

what about multiple blue seals

[pale wolf]

same

[unreal island]

Rip observatory

[pale wolf]

i think blue seals should be affected by card blocking

[pale wolf]

can still fool

[thorny axle]

ankh do not taunt me i might take it

[pale wolf]

observatory kinda sux tho anyways outside of perkeo

[unborn cliff]

walkie talkie

[novel moss]

Pretty credit card.

[unborn cliff]

x2.25 mult is pretty okay

without crystal ball

[nova mantle]

nice

[pale wolf]

its not bad but its just 2.25 without another voucher? for $20? and you need to have blue seals/fool to get it fully online?

thats asssss

feels not good

[white zodiac]

and disabling shop options

[nova mantle]

lucky cat spotted

[pale wolf]

yeah and it removes your consumable slots

[fading cobalt]

I've died 4 times in a row to bosses that counter my build now

Bro this feels like overwatch 🥀

[unreal island]

Takes up ur consumable slots as well

[pale wolf]

Heard and said

[nova mantle]

the hell does overwatch have to do with this 😭

did winston punch your rocket 💔

[fading cobalt]

Getting countered for wanting to play the game

[prime valve]

Are ya winning son?

[fading cobalt]

You play a game of overwatch and get countered so hard you ragequit and thats how I feel with these bosses in balatro

[nova junco]

If you know you know lol
It's about getting hard countered to floor -10

[fading cobalt]

Exactly

[nova mantle]

oh i get it lol, the eye when i got card sharp or the ox when ive got bull

[trail forge]

Is every seed on every stake beatable in theory?

[balmy ridge]

diversify your hero pool twinnem

[fading cobalt]

Or the wall when you exist

[balmy ridge]

whats ur rank

[trail forge]

Or can you get rolls so bad they're impossible to win

[nova mantle]

or physhic when ive got half joker as my base mult

[fading cobalt]

I haven't played overwatch in a year

[nova junco]

Me when I try to play as rein because he's such a vibe and the enemy team goes from the most random assortment of characters to orisa pharmercy ana and immediately know how to perfectly coordinate the comp

[balmy ridge]

BOMBOCLAAAAT

[balmy ridge]

high quality media

[unreal island]

So true

[nova mantle]

vv in a plasma run 🫠

[dire crater]

Ante 1

[balmy ridge]

rein is a noskill character btw

[pale wolf]

i believe so although there isnt a proof

[buoyant ridge]

brainstorm instead of fortune teller ?

[pale wolf]

I still have yet to see anybody even construct a seed that is unwinnable on any normal deck/stake

[dire crater]

Give me back brainstorm

[pale wolf]

let alone find one that's been generated naturally

[fading cobalt]

Me when I try to play tracer and they go dva, widow, ana, ,pharmercy

[balmy ridge]

eternal splash 😭 😭 🥀

[nova junco]

Can I ask why in the world would you take eternal splash-

[balmy ridge]

hey thats what i said

[fading cobalt]

Eternal only run 💀

[nova mantle]

localthunk stated that, atleast on white stake, every seed should be possible to beat
for gold stake, it hasnt been proven otherwise yet but no one knows

[nova junco]

Me when the enemy team immediately knows how to play when I try to enjoy the game

[balmy ridge]

offtopicslop

@ mods

[nova junco]

Fair

[shell dagger]

Guess the score, you are allowed to use balatro calculator

[nova junco]

Mb

[fading cobalt]

gets off red dead
Plays balatro for 30 mins
Depressed
Gets back on red dead for 5 mins
Joy

[balmy ridge]

meeehhh idk like

3-4m

i'd guess like 3.6m or so maybe

[shell dagger]

not even close

[nova junco]

4m? (Used normal calculator)

[balmy ridge]

yeah

sigh

[shell dagger]

36m

[balmy ridge]

glass moment

[floral mural]

so this first practice thing was actually so easy

[shell dagger]

Not glass

Hiker moment

[floral mural]

wtf was this run

[nova junco]

WELL I DID NOT KNOW THAT

[balmy ridge]

how was i supposed to know that bru

[shell dagger]

Lol

[floral mural]

like actually got handed that win for free

[shell dagger]

Why else would i say use the calculator

[balmy ridge]

that is a beautiful joker lineup

[buoyant ridge]

i never take splash again

[balmy ridge]

with my goat runner

[balmy ridge]

not as an eternal lol

[nova junco]

No shit😭

[shell dagger]

why are you taking eternal splash on a seeded run

[open temple]

Still going

[buoyant ridge]

because i want to replay seeded to improve on the game, and trying to win with splash

[open temple]

30x glass joker

[shell dagger]

splash is only good with synergies like wee or golden ticket, it’s terrible on its own

[pale wolf]

oh you mean person

[shell dagger]

It was on plasma anyway

[pale wolf]

I forgot

[buoyant ridge]

Im so bad at this game

[pale wolf]

fuuuuh

[nova junco]

I forgot lmao

[shell dagger]

But the chips alone were enough to one shot normal bosses

It’s crazy

[balmy ridge]

hiker i hardly even

uhh

[buoyant ridge]

i cant even improve when i watch balato university, really unhelpful since everything is rng on gold stake

[tawdry burrow]

dude i got a perkeo

[balmy ridge]

i like hiker actually he's pretty good

[pale wolf]

i need a hiker game

[tawdry burrow]

on the same seed that a negative banana spawned in

[pale wolf]

i need a hiker revolution*

[buoyant ridge]

i think im the worst player here on discord

[shell dagger]

don’t be so down in the dumps

[nova junco]

You haven't been here enough if you think that lol

[tawdry burrow]

if i get blueprint it's gg

[nova junco]

There are people who will knowingly kill a run for the funny

[balmy ridge]

definetely not

[tawdry burrow]

i'm up to 4 empresses now

[open temple]

my game starts to lag from all those jokers

[dire crater]

first pack in first shop, im so lucky

[tawdry burrow]

oh my god that is so low res

[nova junco]

Wow what a lucky pack nothing that can help you score

Aside from straight joker ig

[balmy ridge]

pareidolia surely

[dire crater]

rude

[balmy ridge]

it is tho

[humble dune]

I still haven't made a move

[balmy ridge]

ok

[humble dune]

Do I low straight or diamond flush

[balmy ridge]

i have to get to ante 39

thats my next goal

[open temple]

I could have got so many stickers if I got the negative double earlier

[pale wolf]

@white zodiac you put me in this situation tbh

[tawdry burrow]

I GOT FUCKING ANKH

PERKEO SQUARED

[humble dune]

This but eternal too

[balmy ridge]

mmm

have any of you guys ever got to ante 39 unseeded

[tawdry burrow]

that's like really difficult

[balmy ridge]

i know

but i want to do it

no matter how long it takes

[tawdry burrow]

FM6I94K5 is the seed btw have fun spamming empress

[dire crater]

I hate empress

[balmy ridge]

what seed

[tawdry burrow]

perkeo

and negative banana at shop 1

it's in some early spectral pack

[dire crater]

What the sigma

[sly prairie]

Ship it!

[open temple]

Forgot to swap dna and the kings 2x joker and lost

Best run I ever had

[white zodiac]

what did i do

[pale wolf]

im taking this boi because i am counting on the odds to lucky money in my favor

[pale wolf]

its actually fine

[dire crater]

Wait

[white zodiac]

oh ok

[pale wolf]

im totally not losing this run

[dire crater]

Why packs change when you replay seeds

[nova junco]

The rental is so gonna kill the econ forever

[pale wolf]

luckyyyy moneyyyy

[nova junco]

They don't

[dire crater]

They do

[floral mural]

i just realised i completely forgot to utilize the sixth joker slot out of habit.

[dire crater]

When you skip blinds the first jokers are the same

But the packs no

[nova junco]

Iirc the packs work on a queue system so the first like 3 jokers that show up in a pack are gonna be always the same

[white zodiac]

buffoon packs are coded to be guaranteed on the first round

[dire crater]

Damn it boy i know

But the pack changed

[pale wolf]

and I SHOULD'VE

[white zodiac]

can coexist with other packs that would be otherwise-

[pale wolf]

but i didnt take the acrobat in the end

[white zodiac]

oh

i wouldn’t either

[pale wolf]

i should'vvvvvveeee

[dire crater]

-run skipping first blind has a buffon pack with rebate

-run without skipping has a buffon pack with invi

[terse dock]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1415780753735680151

[dire crater]

But both stores has the same first jokers

[shell dagger]

Send video

[dire crater]

ok

[empty hill]

yall what do i do in this situation

[shell dagger]

depends what hand ur playing

[wintry ice]

i'd sell baron if you have less than like 8 kings

[empty hill]

I have 5 kings

[pale wolf]

so heres the start of a painted run...

[wintry ice]

it also antisynergizes with photo

[empty hill]

Oh alright

[wintry ice]

given that you want to play your face cards with photo but not with baron

[empty hill]

But wait, i change baron for hanging chad right?

[wintry ice]

that would be the safest route

not like you need much else to beat ante 8 i think

[empty hill]

Got it thx

[white zodiac]

the start of something dastardly

[long oxide]

What do I need

[pale wolf]

uh

[white zodiac]

oh

[tawdry burrow]

pants

[pale wolf]

red card prob cant stay but let's see

who keeps up

[balmy ridge]

this setting on brainstorm mod doesn't work for me

[tawdry burrow]

n perk blueprint

[balmy ridge]

i assume its negative perkeo and blueprint

but

doesnt work

[white zodiac]

there better be some stm in your 10 most used

[balmy ridge]

i wanna go ante 39

[prime quail]

Can someone please explain me why skipping in gold stake is a horrible thing?

[white zodiac]

exhibit a

[latent egret]

round of scaling>>>>> most skips

[crimson kestrel]

also money is important

[dire crater]

its very good with abstract

You are a noob

[latent egret]

whether its money from money jokers, seal value, actual jokers scaling…

[barren wigeon]

and seeing shops is epic

[white zodiac]

#🕹・game-discussion message

[pale wolf]

actually i killed it for pants scaling value

[pale wolf]

ooh this isnt the new profile yet

[prime quail]

thx chat

[pale wolf]

main

[prime quail]

how do u like obelisk.

[latent egret]

it’s the most reliable scaling xmult joker

[barren wigeon]

false

but its definitely good xmult

[fiery nymph]

constellation

[latent egret]

you have some chips and some flat mult in lots of your gold stake runs already

[barren wigeon]

if youre smart enough to use it (im not)

[barren wigeon]

or hologram

[fiery nymph]

yea

[nova junco]

Its just not tho

[latent egret]

unless you rely on blue seals or telescope which are not there every run

[latent egret]

you don’t need any money

[nova junco]

Constellation is the most reliable in the sense that it's gonna scale period

[latent egret]

you could have 4 rentals and still get a win

while constellation needs some econ

[barren wigeon]

yes but youre inherently losing money by playing more hands

[nova junco]

I wouldn't call any joker that can reset reliable

[white zodiac]

i simply like to have x.8 mult per round

[pulsar forge]

should i try for nan

[latent egret]

at most 4 bucks a round vs at least 3 for 1 planet card

come on

[fiery nymph]

i actually had a run earlier with vagabond, fortune teller, and constellation and it went very well

[barren wigeon]

3 for a planet card that also helps you score more and theres other ways to get planet cards

[latent egret]

if its the right planet cards

[fiery nymph]

vagabond helps constellation a lot imo

[latent egret]

which is unreliable in shop

and even in packs

unless telescope

[barren wigeon]

also obelisk isnt too reliable with pairs

[latent egret]

how

[white zodiac]

[latent egret]

you play pairs then you switch to anything else

[hollow temple]

Hell yea!

[floral mural]

you cant be forced into pairs tho?

[barren wigeon]

pairs could definitely become your most played hand

[barren wigeon]

what if you wanna

play pairs

[thorny axle]

question

what is it with pairs

[floral mural]

sorry but playing obelisk intrinsically means you probably arent playing one hand exclusively

[thorny axle]

i mean

[nova junco]

They're very very reliable and also not as awful as high card

[barren wigeon]

spammable and has many synergies

[floral mural]

and one hand is sacrificed as an option(usually pairs since easy to spam and cant be forced into

[thorny axle]

normally i play 6 million high cards to skew obelisk then spam the shit out of everything

[floral mural]

dont do that. you can be forced into high card but not pairs

[white zodiac]

if you’re poker hand agnostic for scoring it doesn’t really matter what you play

[floral mural]

pairs are almost as spammable dont worry

[barren wigeon]

im not

[fiery nymph]

pairs and highcard have a lot more synergy with hand-based effects as well/ more steel cards, more blue seals, baron, shoot the moon, and a lot more

[white zodiac]

not what

[barren wigeon]

yuh

[white zodiac]

huh

[balmy ridge]

ohhh yyeeeaahh c++ looks real nice on my showcase

[barren wigeon]

see you get it now

[hollow temple]

Who do I pick?

[barren wigeon]

woah

[nova junco]

What the fuck lmao

[fiery nymph]

wtf happened

[white zodiac]

it all makes sense

[barren wigeon]

WHY DO YOU SHOOT SO MANY MOONS

[crimson kestrel]

i thought the c++ meant you knew that language 💔

[balmy ridge]

why is spamton there

[pale wolf]

am i the best pants scaler of all time?

[barren wigeon]

I get literally every other joker

[white zodiac]

i wanna be saitama

[balmy ridge]

no i'm learning c# and i know python

[barren wigeon]

but why do you keep shooting the moon man

[barren wigeon]

isnt C# a key

[crimson kestrel]

shoot the moon is goated

[barren wigeon]

eh

depends

[hollow temple]

Ignoring the glaring visual glitch who do I pick

[barren wigeon]

on the day

[white zodiac]

i like being original

[barren wigeon]

skip

[crimson kestrel]

i mean its kind of like baron where it depends on your deck

[white zodiac]

in a sea of fish

[barren wigeon]

do not compare stm to baron

[floral mural]

its one of those desktop pets you can throw around i believe

[barren wigeon]

stm doesn't deserve that

[hollow temple]

I might sell lust for hit the road

[crimson kestrel]

dont even worry bro we ALL know baron is better

[nova junco]

Early game stm is way better than baron

[crimson kestrel]

late game

[barren wigeon]

WE???

[barren wigeon]

still no

[pale wolf]

we meet again old friend
old western music

[crimson kestrel]

how bro

[floral mural]

on non endless attempts its almost always worse

im real

[barren wigeon]

baron isnt good

in any 8 ante run

or most

[crimson kestrel]

well yeah that makes sense by late game i meant like endless

[white zodiac]

you’ve been severely misguided

[nova junco]

But yk your 34th shoot the moon trigger isn't gonna do a lot while your 34th baron trigger is still gonna add significantly to the score

[barren wigeon]

baron shines sometimes

[barren wigeon]

well duh

[crimson kestrel]

yeah

[floral mural]

shoot the moon doesnt need good deckfixing and planet levels to be good

[pale wolf]

but the game ends at 8!!

[balmy ridge]

it's a programming language idk what you mean by a key

[barren wigeon]

if endless mattered for how good jokers were idol would be the best in the game

[pale wolf]

c sharp is a key

[barren wigeon]

c sharp

a key

on a piano

[floral mural]

just good deckfixing

[balmy ridge]

oh

[long oxide]

Ecto?

[balmy ridge]

no

c#

[floral mural]

and shoot the moon does something early

[nova junco]

There should be a key on ur keyboard with C# written on it

[floral mural]

baron does not

[barren wigeon]

uhh yeah

[barren wigeon]

if you wanna

[nova junco]

I heard it makes a sound at a specific frequency

[pale wolf]

thats part of the pun in c sharp the programming languages name

[white zodiac]

gs and a8 isn’t balanced around endless. over 100 jokers would do fuck all in the double digit antes

[barren wigeon]

probably find a joker to use first

[balmy ridge]

i dont like puns because i never understand them

[floral mural]

for future knowledge remember that every joker is supposed to be balanced and usable on gold stake ante 8 and not endless

[white zodiac]

can’t be ryan higa

[tiny harbor]

i don't get it and i'm a coder

[crimson kestrel]

ive been known this i just used the wrong wording thats all

mb

[barren wigeon]

if endless is what we based how good jokers are on, idol would be S tier

[pale wolf]

c sharp is kinda sorta the successor to c++, which was a better c, and so the ++++ stacked 2x2 looks like # which also happens to be how you write c sharp musical notation

[barren wigeon]

Idol is quite the opposite of S tier

[floral mural]

usually in the context of ante 8 runs ange 7 or 8 are lategame. not endless

[thorny axle]

idol is fine in ante 8

[barren wigeon]

no it isnt

[floral mural]

actively unusable

[tiny harbor]

ah yea like the 3d # meme (coming after c#)

[crimson kestrel]

bro how much of the same card are you having in your deck by ante 8

[tiny harbor]

it's called c-puzzle and is microsoft's version of python in the lore

[white zodiac]

he’s just as useful in ante 8 as he is ante 1!!

[barren wigeon]

well

yeah

[floral mural]

idol requires deckfixing usually only found on ante 10-12 of a run and thus isnt usable for ante 8

[nova junco]

Arguably it's more useful ante 1 than ante 8 lol

[barren wigeon]

also, yeah

[thorny axle]

there. i said it. i think idol, in the context of a ante 8 run, is fine. its not amazing. it CAN work. it just requires commitment.

[barren wigeon]

it doesn't require commitment, it requires an insane amount of luck

[floral mural]

commitment to worse and much less consistent photo? just give me duo or nothing

[nova junco]

It requires luck to not hit the random 3 of clubs you still haven't hanged

[crimson kestrel]

bro the instant idol hits the other half of your deck your entire build is probably doomed

[floral mural]

idol isnt commitment its gambling

[barren wigeon]

ik balatro is luck based but idol is even more so

[floral mural]

im referring to when you can draw out your whole deck btw

[thorny axle]

there are better jokers (spare pants, ride the bus, fuck you could agrue green joker), but it works

[tiny harbor]

balatro isn't luck based
change my mind

[white zodiac]

balatro is luck based?

[tiny harbor]

it's not

[nova junco]

Green joker is underrated by many people

[thorny axle]

wheel of fortune is not a 1 in 4

[tiny harbor]

it's luck based if you play bad

[thorny axle]

that shit is like a 1 in 400

[barren wigeon]

for idol to even be good you gotta be used a hand with high flat mult, which is usually either 4oak, 5oak, or f5

[crimson kestrel]

i mean it feels like a mix of both to me but that might be because im kinda buns

[nova junco]

It's a 0 in 0

[barren wigeon]

I can name about 100 better jokers in gold stake

[floral mural]

idol literally doesnt work tho? if a joker does nothing 99.9% of time to win its awful. not even questionable

[tiny harbor]

for balatro university it's clearly not

[serene forge]

yeah it also benefits swishborkler

[barren wigeon]

maybe 148 better jokers (fuck you delayed gratification)

[serene forge]

it still sucks so much ass

[floral mural]

seance can at least be FORCED with tarots

[barren wigeon]

well yeah thats because hes the fucking goat

[tiny harbor]

it's pure skill and knowledge

[white zodiac]

balatro is luck based but winning on gs is skill based

via decision making

[thorny axle]

this implies ramen is better than idol

[barren wigeon]

yes definitely so

easily so

[white zodiac]

because it is :3

[nova junco]

147 red card (not bad or anything I just don't like it)

[tiny harbor]

there's ONE luck based thing in balatro
||toilet joker (ancient joker)||

[barren wigeon]

red card is easily better than idol

[nova junco]

It is

[floral mural]

roguelikes are a genre about curbing the luck in your favor mostly

[barren wigeon]

one of the best scaling mult jokers in the game

[floral mural]

balatro is like that

[tiny harbor]

yorick?

[barren wigeon]

I wouldn't say the best but if someone did i wouldn't be mad

[barren wigeon]

that is scaling xmult

[long oxide]

Steel joker my goat

[barren wigeon]

not scaling mult

[tiny harbor]

jk

i say flat mult btw

[pale wolf]

woops

[slate lance]

Luck is definitely a part of balatro, but little to no run is unbeatable with enough skill

[barren wigeon]

that isnt what flat mult is though

[dire crater]

I hate this game

[thorny axle]

this implies chicot is better than idol

[tiny harbor]

[barren wigeon]

flat mult is mult that doesn't scale

like the hand jokers

[thorny axle]

look im just going to name dogshit jokers

[pale wolf]

ante 4 wall is the hardest wall

[white zodiac]

wait rly

[crimson kestrel]

exactly

[floral mural]

id say the only joker as bad as idol is showman

[tiny harbor]

ancient joker

[pale wolf]

for sure

[barren wigeon]

showman can have its moments

id say more often than idol can

[thorny axle]

what are you getting?

2 ramens?

[white zodiac]

well uh
doing nothing is better than doing something detrimental

[crimson kestrel]

woah i dont think showman is THAT ass

[barren wigeon]

showman definitely sucks gs but I got it over idol

[thorny axle]

2 spare pants?

[dire crater]

Yeah bc half the time both do nothing

[tiny harbor]

also is there some officiel joker tierlist
i can show mine if you want

[barren wigeon]

2 blueprints or brainstorms

or cavendish

or mail in rebate

[dire crater]

not even half, it takes a entiere life, or maybe half life idk

[barren wigeon]

or like any good scaling mult or xmult joker

or chad

[floral mural]

mime is an easy a tier while baron is like c or d on most gold stake tier lists right?

[thorny axle]

question
would it be fair to say lusty joker is better than wrathful joker

[floral mural]

from remotely skilled players

[barren wigeon]

which is wrathful

spades?

[white zodiac]

bottom 5

[thorny axle]

yeah

[barren wigeon]

uhh

[tiny harbor]

bloodstone hater moment

[barren wigeon]

yeah id say so

[white zodiac]

actually bottom 8

[floral mural]

then wrathful is better

[barren wigeon]

bloodstone is better than arrowhead probably

[floral mural]

black suits are better than red suits

[thorny axle]

because techinically they're the same in a vaccum but in a greater context hearts get bloodstone so

[barren wigeon]

racism

[crimson kestrel]

thats gotta be motivated

[tiny harbor]

money diamonds are better maybe

[barren wigeon]

OH FUCK I FORGOT

BLACKBOARD

[floral mural]

uhh...no. the rng makes it practically unusable

[barren wigeon]

yeah nevermind wrathful got it

my deepest apologies

[thorny axle]

oa6:

[floral mural]

arrowhead isnt rng which means you can also just shove it anywhere with a spade

[tiny harbor]

blackboard asks you to NOT play the blacks tho

[solid garden]

passed 100 stickers, standing at 102 now! this run was so ass lmao

[thorny axle]

and then you have blackboard and then smeared joker and honestly i think both are good

[white zodiac]

c2

[unreal island]

A white jimbo just went down my thigh

Shop 1 burnt, shop 2 wraith bp

[white zodiac]

still incentivizes you to have black suits

[barren wigeon]

bada bing bada boom

[floral mural]

if a joker must have another joker to be usable its a terrible joker

period

[tranquil oyster]

blackboard is on another level, completely eclipses all other suit jokers.

[white zodiac]

erm speculative plays makes the joker good (doesn’t get it)

[tranquil oyster]

cavendish bottom tier shit joker

[crimson kestrel]

bloodstone in a single sentence

[barren wigeon]

eh......

....maybe?

[white zodiac]

yeah

[stiff fjord]

bloodstone isn't that bad

[barren wigeon]

sometimes

[barren wigeon]

never hits.

[unreal island]

Not that good either

[white zodiac]

i’m not stupid enough to continue engaging this conversation

[barren wigeon]

bloodstone got me my first gold stake and it needed oops

[crimson kestrel]

i mean the fact that bloodstone is purely luck based definitely makes it worse

[barren wigeon]

Cap

[unreal island]

Blueprint:

[barren wigeon]

well yeah fair enough

[nova junco]

That's just called synergy

[stiff fjord]

"bloodstone never hits" when it hits:

[unreal island]

Like 1 in 2 times

[floral mural]

photo is common so taking it for photochad potential is usually fine but bloodstone is just costly and barely does anything reliably without oops

[unreal island]

Buffed to 5 dollar cost

Instead of 7

[vast kestrel]

Hello

[nova junco]

Not true it gives 1.5 every 2 heart cards triggers on average

[floral mural]

i dont like relying on actively seeking specific synergies ngl

[tiny harbor]

i made a joker tierlist some weeks ago, i feel like i'm gonna be roasted if i post it

[barren wigeon]

yooo really???

[crimson kestrel]

post it we wont jump you bro

[unreal island]

But what about the +mult xmult joker synergy

[barren wigeon]

I might make my own joker tier list based on my own experience personally

[nova junco]

That's fine for me I'm going to reroll for 5 antes searching for 1 specific joker

[white zodiac]

i will

[tranquil oyster]

bloodstone is decent bc it's a mult joker that also synergizes with lustful. flushes have ass mult and this mitigates it to some degree.

[unreal island]

Lmao this is ragebait

[barren wigeon]

already looks terrible

[floral mural]

basic scoring gameplan without specific joker searching is fine for me

[unreal island]

Dont engage

[floral mural]

chips plus flat mult plus xmult is way easier to accomplish than 2 specific jokers

[unreal island]

Say tgat to the three midas vamp runs i had today

[crimson kestrel]

is this for endless or ante 8 gs

[unreal island]

White stake

[barren wigeon]

jimbo in F, grimbo and runner in D, chicot bull and hack in C, duo spaceman halfsies and bus and squimbo on B, photo in S, IDOL AND BARON IN S+????

put the fries in the bag

[tiny harbor]

tbf, i think 2 separate lists exist for ante8 and endless

[tiny harbor]

baron is not S? how

[barren wigeon]

dogshit on everything but endless

[tiny harbor]

bruh

[crimson kestrel]

but which one is the list you made for

[tiny harbor]

a bit of both

[crimson kestrel]

i mean come on bro baron isnt s for ante 8

[long oxide]

Rip

[white zodiac]

zoahl is prob the closest person that has made me agree on their joker placements

[nova junco]

Someone should make a tier list of the jokers entirely on how cute the art looks

[tranquil oyster]

idg endless tier lists... realistically, they have like 6 jokers in s tier, 10 a tiers, and the rest is f tier

[pale wolf]

good packes

[tiny harbor]

it's more about endless

but very good jokers for ante8 are still high

[crimson kestrel]

well if its for endless then yeah baron and idol are pretty damn good

[floral mural]

endless truly the pinnacle of balance. only 10 jokers or so are viable

[tiny harbor]

lol no

15 not 10

[white zodiac]

there you go
a8 gs (wr/streaks)
endless
cred to zoahl & lilo

[tiny harbor]

left is ante8?

[white zodiac]

take a wild guess

[nova mantle]

Idol on the best 💔

[native heath]

what do i sell for dna? trying to go for a high score and need more kings

[twin lantern]

still thinning ur deck in 2025?

[white zodiac]

[crimson kestrel]

wait which is which

[tiny harbor]

photo in useless 😭
you were in extreme hatred when making it

[white zodiac]

it’s called a thousand hours of knowledge

[weak shale]

CHICOT IN S+ I HAVE PREVAILED

[white zodiac]

and a few streak seshs

[pale wolf]

todo list went flush→pair→flush→highcard

[white zodiac]

not mine btw

just what i agree

on

[crimson kestrel]

i mean without photochad photograph is kinda buns

[thorny axle]

???

[white zodiac]

.

[crimson kestrel]

just tell me why bro 💔

[thorny axle]

two words

[white zodiac]

it’s not that hard lmao

[white zodiac]

i threw him away in my current run should i feel bad

[floral mural]

an early eternal to do list won me runs before im not kidding

[white zodiac]

samesies

[thorny axle]

(or most on score +mult/+chips)

[coral summit]

What the fuck?

[tiny harbor]

what the fuck

[tranquil oyster]

there's still dusk, seltzer, red seal, etc... even without all of them it can provide like 20 pre-steel mult depending on the hand. it's useful without chad too.

[thorny axle]

holy shit
is to do list just rebate's counterpart

how did i never realise this

[crimson kestrel]

shouldve said without retriggers mb

[tiny harbor]

rip invisible joker

[thorny axle]

(or most on score +mult/+chips)

[buoyant ridge]

hands down, lucky cat is one of the best and fun jokers

[white zodiac]

the score timing is far too insignificant to keep hold over any alternative x mult in the hands of boss blinds, card draw, and other variable factors

[pale wolf]

no the second flush was massively facilitated by riff Raff making a droll Joker

[white zodiac]

negative synergy

[thorny axle]

burglar is my favourite econ joker

[white zodiac]

i prefer snail mail

[crimson kestrel]

i can see that actually

[unborn cliff]

vagabond

[thorny axle]

econ implies ecoff

[crimson kestrel]

WE love scamming the hook

[unborn cliff]

eeffoc

[white zodiac]

green tea

[white zodiac]

still died

[pale wolf]

to vv?

[white zodiac]

yeah the ss from earlier

shark moment

[gleaming vector]

Is this enough dek fixing or na

[pale wolf]

game shouldn't allow vv on black deck /s

[gleaming vector]

Highkey need to throw dna out

[unborn cliff]

/serious

[gleaming vector]

For another duplicate

[pale wolf]

no way

[crimson kestrel]

its beautiful

[gleaming vector]

Is that the play here

[unborn cliff]

/s(erious)

[pale wolf]

this game isn't for baby

[dry remnant]

wth just happened, 2 rounds ago i had a bannana and a mystic summit

[unborn cliff]

dont make me kill you zebra

[balmy ridge]

/s is sarcastic

[pale wolf]

impossible

[unborn cliff]

i know

i felt like saying serious

[balmy ridge]

ok

[unreal island]

Incredible

[white zodiac]

game shouldn't allow a1 big blind on black deck

[unreal island]

So free

Give me purple stake!

[sweet bramble]

did not mean to reply

[gleaming vector]

Goodbye dna you were amazing

[sweet bramble]

im sorry

gonna do some challenge decks ;D

[pale wolf]

just 2 shops in a row

[balmy ridge]

blacked stake 🥀

[white zodiac]

[unreal island]

Beating all decks in order

[crimson kestrel]

yikes

[unreal island]

Beat black deck today and now im on magic

[prime valve]

What were you been waiting for?

[pale wolf]

a1r1 coupon tag

still sound awful

[white zodiac]

I wish

[pale wolf]

what if black deck just started with a coupon tag

[white zodiac]

what if black deck started with bones

[sweet bramble]

How's magic deck?

[white zodiac]

prob wouldn't change much

[gleaming vector]

Am about to blow

[unreal island]

Its everything nebula wants to be but better

[sweet bramble]

Id imagine

[pale wolf]

[open pier]

whats the play guys

[sweet bramble]

I managed to beat gold stake for the first time yesterday

[pale wolf]

nice

[thorny axle]

credit card in the standard pack

[fervent wolf]

Cruelty was easy

[pale wolf]

idk

[open pier]

my build rn

[thorny axle]

i think you like hearts

[open pier]

bloodstone😛

[sweet bramble]

Bloodstone my beloved

[naive galleon]

bloodstone 😻

[open pier]

do i pivot to baron mime..

[barren wigeon]

alright guys

[open pier]

which would get me further

[barren wigeon]

I know everyone is gonna point and laugh and throw tomatoes at me

[pale wolf]

you get rid of the retrigger jokers

[open pier]

dusk?

or sock

[pale wolf]

yes

[barren wigeon]

yeahitschips official balatro tier list (based on my personal experience)

[unreal island]

Oops! All +Mult

[humble dune]

Nothing I'm just scared

[open pier]

L list whys jimbo in sometimes

[barren wigeon]

I dont feel like theres anything TOO crazy but idk

[cosmic sun]

this is definitely a non pair player tier list

[barren wigeon]

sometimes jimbo

[barren wigeon]

I play pairs a lot

Straights are more fun though

[sweet bramble]

Vagabond 😎

[cosmic sun]

sorry it just boggles me some of the choices in yellow

cert and bbc?

[barren wigeon]

not bad

not for me

dont like using them personally

i dont care if theyre good or not

if i dont like using it im not gonna use it

[sweet bramble]

Bro thinks hes on the team

[pale wolf]

never too early for HOLOGRAPHIC BUS

[sweet bramble]

DO IT!!

[pale wolf]

certificate better than parking?

[pale wolf]

this was supposed to have context

[dry remnant]

top 5 runs I've had

[white zodiac]

mmm yeah prob

[pale wolf]

i have 2 blue seals

so idk if its necessary

[white zodiac]

up to you then

[pale wolf]

ofc ;

[sweet bramble]

absolutely eating the mail in rebate knowing its gonna get nerfed to oblivion

[hasty harness]

i mean more seals never hurt right

[pale wolf]

i do like puwple

i rerolled and found new friends that shop

[sweet bramble]

Just one temperance... please....... please....................

[pale wolf]

ope

[gleaming vector]

Damn

That was funny to see

Does card level even matter at the e numbers

[sweet bramble]

Yeah

Cus chips

[gleaming vector]

I couldve gone higher then

Threw early

[mortal nimbus]

it doesn't matter significantly, but it's still worth investing in

[dry remnant]

do i even take it or am i maxed out

[shell dagger]

chab

[thin radish]

ofc take it, why would you want 2 photochad instead of a brainstorm

[pale wolf]

[cosmic sun]

[unreal island]

Man bbc is the best!

[pale wolf]

HOLY FUCK

[unreal island]

Cool run so far

[unreal island]

Hes too powerful, nerf him back to +1 chip

[shell dagger]

It’s hiker time

That’s the exact setup I had in my last run (chad hiker bs)

[sweet bramble]

take a hikeeee willya pal

[zinc willow]

Alright guys, im doing an endurance run, Baseball or Constellation

[pale wolf]

there should be a challenge deck with 0 chip playing cards at the start and it starts with a seltzer or 3, and a hiker

[pale wolf]

you copy hiker right

[zinc willow]

Guys?

[leaden blaze]

Balatro gold stake tierlist

[zinc willow]

So.... Constellation?

[fervent wolf]

Aces are so fun

[pale wolf]

Actually i cant tell

[fervent wolf]

Canio is S what

[leaden blaze]

So the uncommons are spade card i cant remember the name of, golden joker, rocket and constellation right?

[mortal nimbus]

golden joker is common

[fervent wolf]

Burglar at C is insane

[shell dagger]

Yeah

[leaden blaze]

I probably should have put them in a seperate ive omly seen them once so i cant really rank them tier

[shell dagger]

Was gonna say copy chad for score but you aren’t on plasma

[fervent wolf]

Burglar is atleast an A

[leaden blaze]

Burglar is eh

[fervent wolf]

Burglar is peak

[leaden blaze]

If yoyr playing pairs they are alright

Still hardky my top pick

They make purple seals and rebate useless

[fervent wolf]

Easy to scale hand played jokers and makes Ramen never deplete (except the hook)

[shell dagger]

Green 2 tiers below supernova 🤔

[fervent wolf]

Natural synergy with cardsharp and baseball Card

[pale wolf]

you can discard with supernova duh

[shell dagger]

true..

they must love discards

[unreal island]

Lmfao

[shell dagger]

but then yorick is only A

[leaden blaze]

Green is just annoying

[unreal island]

No shot yhis is purplr stake LMAOO

[leaden blaze]

Thats mainly why its there

[shell dagger]

nova dying to eye is quite annoying

[tranquil steppe]

Some new high score wahoo!!!

[leaden blaze]

Plus supernova has preemptive scaling where as green you need to actively scale

[unreal island]

Trib in S 🥹 🥀 ❌

[pale wolf]

and andy/drunkard

[hasty harness]

nice

[pale wolf]

very lo

[fervent wolf]

Merry Andy at C 💔

[leaden blaze]

I often go face cards so trib is often a free win

[pale wolf]

doesnt it suck that blue seals and photochad is better than bus

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[leaden blaze]

Well not nescessarily free you need deck fixing

[tranquil steppe]

Kill the bus

[shell dagger]

especially with brainstorm

[serene forge]

me when I just casually pull a legendary joker out of my ass:

[shell dagger]

and boss protection

[leaden blaze]

Yeah fair

[tranquil steppe]

That was me earlier. Lord Canio ftw!

[leaden blaze]

But you can work around bosses most of the time

[pale wolf]

my boss protection is hiker

[fervent wolf]

Erosion at D 💔

[shell dagger]

id say most runs won’t get directors cut or luchador

so i doubt it

[leaden blaze]

But trib against the plant needs a pretty rough rework

[serene forge]

bull d castle d????

[shell dagger]

yeah I didn’t wanna bother going there

[serene forge]

square and green c lmfao

[shell dagger]

plenty of great chip scalers in low tier

[tranquil steppe]

I’ve gotten retcon maybe 3x ever

[leaden blaze]

Idk they never seem worth picking

[shell dagger]

try them more

chip jokers are really strong

[unreal island]

FOUR

[leaden blaze]

Early its +0 late you probably dont need it

[willow frost]

castle is really fun

[pale wolf]

chips r useless u cant multiply them 🙂

[shell dagger]

true

wtf even is associativity 😂

[tranquil steppe]

Yea chips are worthless late game for high scores

[willow frost]

wait a minute how are you fancastle but not a castle fan

[leaden blaze]

Chips can be good i have some chips jokers in b

[tranquil steppe]

You’ll need steel and retriggers and red seals

[willow frost]

?????

[serene forge]

good thing that this game isn't about high scores

[leaden blaze]

Odd todd certianly pulls some weight early game

[tranquil steppe]

True

I do love me castle