🕹・game-discussion

[unkempt creek]

@grave magnet your gros michel should be far left

[cloud sinew]

also kinda just fuels lobotomy more

[pale wolf]

every hand

[unkempt creek]

it adds to what your madness multiplies

[pale wolf]

hands are free

[manic talon]

Observatory is just worse antimatter if you think about it

[lunar zealot]

Your mom is antimatter

[pale wolf]

and antimatter is just a worse black deck

[cloud sinew]

🔥

[manic talon]

but the tier 1 voucher for observatory is good, unlike the tier 1 for antimatter which does nothing

[lunar zealot]

Say that again

[manic talon]

that again

[pale wolf]

telescope and observatory should.... welll

[lunar zealot]

no say the thing you just said before

[languid pecan]

the thing you just said before

[manic talon]

does nothing?

[hearty warren]

no say 🤐

[pale wolf]

she said no say that

shakin head

[hearty warren]

🦓

🫨

[regal cobalt]

great minds over here

[manic talon]

sometimes my brilliance confound even myself

[grave magnet]

Now im fucked. i aint got any of my steels, no discards and none of my mults or chip cards. There's no way in hell that i'm gonna be able to get over 71,282 chips in one turn with the cards i have

[pale wolf]

does antimatter ante matter? and he mad, or andy/mat'dor?

[manic talon]

perhaps

[regal cobalt]

perchance

[pale wolf]

periwinkle

[nova mantle]

Ourple

[pale wolf]

Ourple

[languid pecan]

Ourple

[pale wolf]

idk why but

[unkempt creek]

what goes for bp

[pale wolf]

i played into endless

[unkempt creek]

family?

[cloud sinew]

uhhh

family for sure

[vale jetty]

How do we feel about invisible

[unkempt creek]

ok

[vocal cedar]

im really struggling with my blue card runs, does anybody have any tips?

[cloud sinew]

probably given they have a fool and death and perkeo

[grave magnet]

i had one just now. solo holographic madness. i should've gotten rid of my normal cards so that i could draw my steels more often.

[languid pecan]

Is your driver's license activated

[vale jetty]

Yes

[languid pecan]

Take it over carto

[pale wolf]

is madness with only eternal econ solo madness

[languid pecan]

At worst it's 2x from the fortune teller

[grave magnet]

😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

[vale jetty]

Doesn’t carto add a ton of mult with fortune teller and all the x3?

[pale wolf]

also gotta wonder what the next to do list is on ofc

[regal cobalt]

what were you thinking

[languid pecan]

What's your fortune teller at

[vale jetty]

+23

[grave magnet]

i was doing well upp until crimson heart nut tapped me

[languid pecan]

Ok that's pretty bad

[pale wolf]

I'd keep everything you have then

[pale wolf]

.

[grave magnet]

at least now i have flower vase.

[vale jetty]

Just tryna live man I’ve found nothing noteworthy

[pale wolf]

this is definitely one of the most jokers of all time

[languid pecan]

Make sure you're spending into one hand like pair or two pair in order to get chips since you don't have any chips jokers

What's your hand levels

[manic talon]

its a good song but idk why people associate it with MGSV even though it came out years after MGSV

[languid pecan]

Yikes

[grave magnet]

if i get holo madness again then i'm going into pairs this time.

[languid pecan]

I really hope you can hit full house consistently I guess

Because you're dead if you dont

[vale jetty]

I have so far

[languid pecan]

For future reference go 3oak or two pair instead of full house

[vale jetty]

First few planets were full house so I just committed

[languid pecan]

Full house only gets +5 chips over 3oak and 2 pair is way easier to play more of

The problem is you only get like 2 hands MAYBE 3 of full houses

[vale jetty]

I’ve opened every pack, had the spectral 6 joker and carto and still can’t find anything

[languid pecan]

Your jokers are fine besides fortune teller

Wdym

[vale jetty]

Yeah that’s first out when I find something else, just saying I’ve dug for anything and just cant get anything, that’s how seeds work ig

[unkempt creek]

sixth sense over chad for an ecto?

i have 3 6s

[languid pecan]

You might just not know what jokers are super good honestly no offense

[vale jetty]

Well I don’t have all of them unlocked tbh

[languid pecan]

A lot of players underestimate some jokers

[unkempt creek]

like red card

very good scaling plus mult

[vale jetty]

No red card, no pants not much scaling

[proven gulch]

grimb

o

[unkempt creek]

yeah green joker

[languid pecan]

Supernova green joker ride the bus

[unkempt creek]

bootstraps

[languid pecan]

NOT bootstraps

[unkempt creek]

the list really just goes on

why not bootsraps

[languid pecan]

Bootstraps sucks

[vale jetty]

I’m ngl I know jokers by what they do not name

[regal cobalt]

supernova is amazing

[languid pecan]

Bull is fantastic

[languid pecan]

It is

[proven gulch]

it puts you into a trap relying on holding money and getting no actual joker scaling

[unkempt creek]

depends on what youre trying to do

if all you want to do is beat ante 8

bootstraps with chips is good

[vale jetty]

All I go for is ante 8

[unkempt creek]

its literally all you need to win

[proven gulch]

red stake?!

[unkempt creek]

so yes bootstraps is good

[languid pecan]

Bootstraps is for emergencies and if you have bull already

Otherwise bootstraps sucks

[vale jetty]

See no value continuing after, what’s bootstraps do

[proven gulch]

bootstrap bull is not worth it

[unkempt creek]

mult per money

idk exact values off the top of my head

[proven gulch]

2 per $5

i'm unemployed

[vale jetty]

Yeah I think I did see that but I was poor and didn’t wanna die

[languid pecan]

It's situational, it depends on your econ but its one of the worst scaling mults

[manic talon]

Bull is pretty good as far as chip jokers go

[proven gulch]

what scaling mult is worse

[unkempt creek]

it can technically be the fastest scaling mult joker

[manic talon]

bootstraps, not so much

[unkempt creek]

just depends on your econ

[languid pecan]

Fortune teller probably

[proven gulch]

yeah i was gonna say that

[languid pecan]

Swash supposedly counts as scaling too

So that

[proven gulch]

at least it doesn't cost money to use

[cedar shell]

should i take chad here

[languid pecan]

It costs like 6 dollars I think

[proven gulch]

i don't see this

[unkempt creek]

whats your deck looking like

[cedar shell]

it would probably be pop invis and no brainstorm sell for chad

[manic talon]

abstract and swash are technically scaling

[pale wolf]

imagine a world

[manic talon]

probably dont need trading card

[unkempt creek]

you have enough purple to probably sell trading

[cedar shell]

ok thanks!

[manic talon]

this feels wrong

[cedar shell]

i should probably use the purple instead of spamming ticket

thats why i made them purple i think

[languid pecan]

I really like the rework idea of x1 Mult for each suit in your hand (maybe make it rare after that tho)

[heady narwhal]

seeing double if it was objectively more powerful and also boring

[languid pecan]

True true

[heady narwhal]

i think x3 for 3+ suits is better

[proven gulch]

what does wild card count as + ⬆️

[pale wolf]

would wild still count as an additional "missing" suit if all 4 suits were already represented? bc that would be fun

[languid pecan]

That sounds fun

[vale jetty]

Blueprint is almost always worth it tho right?

[languid pecan]

I was thinking stone could also work as a suit but idk

[heady narwhal]

matador rework leaked

[pale wolf]

wh

[proven gulch]

watch econ and scoring

[cedar shell]

i just passed the plant just to slam into the ox

[vale jetty]

Better than carto at least now

[pale wolf]

is it?

It's only multiplying your base mult by 3

Not what purple Joker has

[languid pecan]

I'd say yes since you're playing full house

[hasty harness]

IM BEAN BUG ABUSING SO HARD

[languid pecan]

You already have like 20 mult on the hand level anyways so if you copy cavendish or drivers licence that's way more mult than you have now

[pale wolf]

unless you're just copying The mult for a 2x

[hasty harness]

i sold a brainstorm to do it 💀

i had 4 copy jokers

[unkempt creek]

worth it

[hasty harness]

gotta get that handsize tho

im at 21 handsize rn

🤑

still more hands to abuse with

[vale jetty]

Nah I wouldn’t double the tarot joker just haven’t moved positions

[hasty harness]

just hit bean again

HUGE

im at 24 handsize

[pale wolf]

next round if theres heiroglyph you can take it and reroll back into heart again

[hasty harness]

already did so first time i got the boss blind

i had an early retcon

[pale wolf]

oo

[languid pecan]

Make sure to order it cavendish fortune then brainstorm and whatever else for max value - if you play anything else besides full house move fortune teller far left and brainstorm behind xMult tho

[hasty harness]

its sad cuz my bean is only +3 handsize

couldnt find burglar but still

+3 handsize everytime it hits is massive

IT HIT AGAIN

27 handsize

[unkempt creek]

wdym couldnt find burglar

you have burglar

[hasty harness]

i found the bean b4 the burglar

[unkempt creek]

ah

[hasty harness]

which means i had to play 2 rounds with the bean

cuz reroll costs were 2 high

[pale wolf]

[tranquil cargo]

if you can find 1 more copy joker, you have naneinf

[hasty harness]

i already had 4

i sold out of brainstorm to do the bean bug

[languid pecan]

Do you plan to enjoy 27 handsize or do you plan to get a couple joker slots

[unkempt creek]

bean bug worth it though

[hasty harness]

i just got c++ and my next goal was to get an ante 39 run

so we'll see

whatever i can do to hit ante 39

[unkempt creek]

guys what do you think the best joker in the game would be to start a naneinf run with is

[languid pecan]

Perkeo.

[tranquil cargo]

perkeo

[hasty harness]

honestly riftraff if we dont cout legendaries

[languid pecan]

People use a mod called brainstorm just to get perkeo

[compact gazelle]

surely it's either perkeo or blueprint
and that just depends on if you like it the spectral way

[unkempt creek]

ik

i mean i figured it was perkeo

but like

worth asking

[hasty harness]

OMG I MISCALULATED

i almost died 💀

[crystal field]

beefing w perkeo getting baited by early perkeo on gold stake hurts more than normal

[hasty harness]

never punished i hit the bean again 💀

[unkempt creek]

30 hand size

is wild

well 27

[hasty harness]

its 30

[languid pecan]

NGL perkeo on gold stake is op

[hasty harness]

after the hand plays

[unkempt creek]

oh wait no i was right

[hasty harness]

it gives the handsize

yea

[languid pecan]

It's only bad if you're trying to play for high score

At worst perkeo just be a golden joker

[hasty harness]

its copy like this right?

[languid pecan]

(copy a tarot card every round and sell it)

[hasty harness]

2 on baron one on mime

[tranquil cargo]

you haven't made them steel yet?

[hasty harness]

i have steel i just got rid of them for this hand

cuz imma live either way

might as well farm

[languid pecan]

Why should they

[crystal field]

i feel like more often than not perkeo at most makes me my hermits but at a certain point I have lots of reason to sell before ante 8 boss, whicch would be chill but I need the gold sticker and hes the only legendary I still need for a gold sticker 💔

[hasty harness]

oh yeah bro 30 handsize 🙏

we're cooking

[cedar shell]

photograph common joker my ass

[languid pecan]

You should get used to committing to eternal econ

[cedar shell]

fuck the photograph

[unreal island]

greatest econ oat

[cedar shell]

fuck the idol

WHERE ARE THEY

[languid pecan]

Perkeo is one of the best econs in the game

[tranquil cargo]

it's also the only way to do an infinite loop in the game

[hasty harness]

big 30 handsize

sheesh

[languid pecan]

Perkeo kinda just be doing everything ngl

[crystal field]

I died on ante 8 big blind just recently because I had such bad other scoring options + perkeo , if I had sold perkeo for even some other form of xmult i would have been chillin. I think ur right tho because a big blunder I made was selling outmy temperances early

and then hes just doing nothing

[languid pecan]

Yeah you want to be maximizing economy because money is power

[proven gulch]

holy greed wow

heart on baron

[vale jetty]

Update, I won with the run, all that mult made everything a one hander

[cloud sinew]

your joker order is suboptimal but you won so

[vale wharf]

Is this man actually useful? I think I've triggered him exactly 0 times

Is this man actually useful? I think I've triggered him exactly 0 times

[languid pecan]

Check boss

[cloud sinew]

i know

[vale wharf]

Thank you for duplicating, discord

[vale jetty]

They were flipped and shuffled, I only cared what blueprint was

[proven gulch]

super strong a1

[vale wharf]

It's manacle 😭

[hasty harness]

good early game econ

[proven gulch]

Shit a1

[cloud sinew]

you could figure out where drivers and brainstorm were from them being eternal though

[vale wharf]

Manacle 😭

[languid pecan]

Pro tip you can grab onto at least 1 joker as soon as you start the blind to know what it is

[hasty harness]

well assuming the boss is good

🙏

[vale jetty]

Didn’t know that Ty, I just put it in .5 speed since all jokers would trigger

[hasty harness]

ig just save money and do the bean bug again on ante 32 right?

😈

[languid pecan]

Like Lilo said too if jokers are eternal you can guess which is which

[crystal field]

amber acorn rarely matters once u know this simple trick ☝️

[vale jetty]

Ohhh from not being able to sell?

[cloud sinew]

yeah

[languid pecan]

Amber acorn matters so little so long as you don't have bp or brainstorm and even if you do, your runs alr won

[vale jetty]

Never thought about that, I just looked at which ones would trigger and went off that, thank you guys

[cloud sinew]

you can also figure it out if you have start of round / select blind jokers (madness, cartomancer, burglar, etc..)

[crystal field]

thats also a fair method if your joker machine is even slightly more complicated than having 1 copy effect

[languid pecan]

Typically the one I grab is my +mult joker by putting it at the front, starting blind, grabbing it, and dragging it to the front again

[vale jetty]

In that case I’d grab drivers license or something right since I want that first?

[crystal field]

and eternal jokers cannot be sold which can also help against acorn ya

[vale wharf]

Ante 2 needle 😭

[languid pecan]

For your run specifically probably?

[vale jetty]

I don’t think acorn has messed me up yet in a run 🤞

[hasty harness]

chopped ah 💀

[vale jetty]

Yeah

[languid pecan]

Needle when I have card sharp

[crystal field]

and eye 😭

card sharp too good

[vale wharf]

What's card sharp?

[proven gulch]

makes your cards super sharp

you can throw them at boss blinds to kill thm

[languid pecan]

x3 mult if you've already played that hand type this round

[minor portal]

card dull

[languid pecan]

So first pair normal second pair x3

[vale wharf]

If only

[crystal field]

or straight flush

thats also possible

[minor portal]

x2 mult for every unique hand played

[crystal field]

[vale jetty]

Any tips for orange stake? Haven’t done a run yet

[hasty harness]

ig its just farm until ante 32

and then i need to bean bug again

[languid pecan]

Honestly I kinda like that idea

[vale wharf]

Ts has me hanging by a thread

[hasty harness]

get some x mult

[crystal field]

once u get used to purple and blue stake rules orange is easy enough

[hasty harness]

u have $44 better to roll and find something then die

[minor portal]

the blackboard in question

[hasty harness]

i meant +

im slow

🙏

[minor portal]

this is a horrible joker line up though

[languid pecan]

Don't be afraid to take early perishable jokers to survive

[vale jetty]

I’m going through deck by deck, have maybe done only 3 purple stake runs

[minor portal]

superposition, matador, and blackboard is a trio from balatro hell

[vale jetty]

Are they able to be sold after 4 rounds?

[hasty harness]

guys i hex here right

[crystal field]

that is how I did c+ and honestly yeah orange will be pretty easy for you once u get there

[minor portal]

5, yes

[vale jetty]

Oh they don’t vanish after the 5th round?

[minor portal]

they get debuffed

[crystal field]

main thing abt perishables is that they cost the same as normal jokers which makes them worse than the niche scenarios that rental jokers can be used for free

[vale jetty]

Oh that’s a nice QoL mechanic

[vale jetty]

Are rental jokers gold stake? Not there yet

[hasty harness]

like cola or rebate for example

[hasty harness]

they r

[crystal field]

yess

[crystal field]

rental hallucination rental trading card my goats

🙏

[proven gulch]

ankh bp for 2 bp

[hasty harness]

facts

[hasty harness]

this guy gets it

[minor portal]

rental golden joker

[crystal field]

um yezz

my bad

[vale jetty]

I don’t even have golden joker unlocked yet lol

Unless that’s the 4 after a round

[hasty harness]

whats the odds this was an actual good nat negative

[crystal field]

how do you unlock him i forgot

[vale jetty]

I’m thinking if the ticket

[hasty harness]

like blueprint dna etc

and i was blocking

💀

[vale jetty]

Play 5 gold cards in a hand right?

[crystal field]

is there any rare that can help on ante 26

ig dna

[vale jetty]

I know the challenges but if they aren’t going to help my runs why pollute the joker pool

[crystal field]

so 1/20

[proven gulch]

only decent one would be showman right?

[crystal field]

no dna is there now

so 0?

[hasty harness]

it could have been a nat negative blue print dna etc

but i was rare blocking

since its a rare joker

[minor portal]

I feel as if totem might be peak here

[crystal field]

what is totel

[hasty harness]

the idol

[crystal field]

idol? i think its uncommon

[minor portal]

same thing

[hasty harness]

and nah theres a few good nat negatives

even tho im rare blocking

theres nat negative drunkard

trubidor

[proven gulch]

oh invis

[hasty harness]

etc

[minor portal]

I can't remember the idol because it sucks as a joker

[crystal field]

truth!

[languid pecan]

I still wish perishable had a niche that made it useful, eternal jokers make it so stuff that destroy jokers doesn't work, and rental jokers makes some stuff buy for 1 sell for 1, perishable just makes it worse with no upside

[proven gulch]

actually you'd have to get out of it for bean

[crystal field]

atleast perishables act as sell value ig

:/

[hasty harness]

yeah i plan to bean bug ante 32

[vale jetty]

Do jokers like knife still scale if the eternals aren’t destroyed?

[proven gulch]

gl

[languid pecan]

No.

[hasty harness]

i already did it in ante 16 and 24

[opal delta]

I hit an even higher score

[hasty harness]

🤑

[crystal field]

nah

[hasty harness]

i got 27 handsize

[crystal field]

its based on how its worded

adds sell value so has to killa. joker to get the sell value

[languid pecan]

Madness does but that's because it doesn't rely on actually destroying a joker, it just coincidentally destroys a joker

[crystal field]

and madness is like destroy a joker AND gain x.5

[vale jetty]

Seems like they’re good with spectral cards then I’ve always avoided them even if I have eternals lol, avoided destroying ones I mean

Wow I’ve learned a lot today these runs are on,y gonna get easier it seems

[crystal field]

knife can be pretty good if u got good econ ya

[languid pecan]

Knife is a slightly worse red card but you need an open joker slot to scale jt

[crystal field]

stabbing baron like its the ides of march

[languid pecan]

Honestly it might be better than red card but it requires the joker slot

[crystal field]

I was thinking knife and red card are similarly flavored for how money hungry they are

[vale jetty]

I had a question but forgot shit, niche interaction I wanna know

[crystal field]

its ok and always try it out

winning is good but doing funny things is better

[vale jetty]

Im not playing rn just ‘theory crafting’ in my head

Ohhh

What’s rare joker blocking, saw someone mention it

[crystal field]

so when you have a card either in joker or consumables

it cant appear in shop

[vale jetty]

I see now

[crystal field]

so if u have 3 rare jokers for example it takes 3 rares out of the pool of potentual rare jokers

u can block for all card types

[vale jetty]

Makes sense, I would consumable block but never really joker blocked, seems only viable with rare prolly

[crystal field]

so if your emperor gives u mush, keep them till ur done w next shop or need the money or tarot effects for example

[languid pecan]

Don't worry about joker blocking for a while

That's for endless

Tarot blocking and planet blocking is good

[vale jetty]

Yeah, or use your planet card from a blue seal before continuing to possibly find it again

[crystal field]

well yes

but its always context dependent

[vale jetty]

Yeah ofc

[crystal field]

sometimes u have death or hang man in ur fool

and in that case dont use the planet for example

[vale jetty]

I used the same concept a lot in battlegrounds so I understand it

Also is your pfp shalnark?

[crystal field]

yaaaa :3

[vale jetty]

Hell yeah

[vale jetty]

My Xbox and TikTok profile pic are Frieren

[unkempt creek]

might be a goated start

[crystal field]

YOOOO

[vale wharf]

What are some of the most powerful jokers?

[vale jetty]

Genuine question for people that do it, what’s the appeal in going past ante 8

[crystal field]

flower pot, hit the road, etc

[unkempt creek]

so

[unkempt creek]

naneinf is fun

never done it but ive been trying

[mortal nimbus]

sometimes you get a really fun build going and you want to see how far you can take it

[unkempt creek]

the grind is fun

[opal delta]

would it be better to copy mime or baseball card here for the best score

[vale jetty]

Theirs only a couple ways to actually get it right, does it not get repetitive?

[icy hollow]

baseball card

[crystal field]

going for high score is fun when the build can potentially take it past ante 12

[unkempt creek]

well sure theres only a few ways to do it but

there are a lot of ways to get to the point of actually doing it

[icy hollow]

naneinf gets extremely repetitive

[unkempt creek]

its a different road to get there every time

[icy hollow]

but it can be fun to do it 🤷‍♂️ i enjoy doing it sometimes

[unkempt creek]

also ive never done naneinf so im trying to do it

[icy hollow]

cus its pretty brainless but big number

[opal delta]

I got 509 million

[vale jetty]

That’s fair, it just doesn’t appeal to me, I just wanna try the multiplayer mod, seems like a pure skill multiplayer and I’m pumped if I can try it

[opal delta]

thank you bloodstone hater

[icy hollow]

as payment for the advice, you must NEVER take bloodstone again

[vale jetty]

Name checks out

[icy hollow]

theres qiute a lot of luck involve in multiplayer

but its really fun

[opal delta]

but my file completion...

[icy hollow]

first day i got it, I played with my roommate for 8 hours straight 💀

[pale wolf]

multiplayer is an interesting exercise in how the game changes when your priorities are different

[vale jetty]

With idols and stuff yeah, but it’s same seed so same exact card pools, just better decision making wins right?

[icy hollow]

not the idols and stuff

[crystal field]

knowing what a “better” decision is in the moment can be tricky!

[icy hollow]

the stuff of "wow i took a bad choice on the judgement but it gave me blueprint"

[unkempt creek]

do i just like send it or do i wait

[icy hollow]

something like that

or taking the rare skip

stuff like that

[vale jetty]

Always loved stuff like that, my main game rn is The Finals and with the amount of unpredictably in it making the right choice really matters

[minor portal]

Invis/ankh bloodstone to make sure that one bloodstone haters efforts are made in vain (it's funny)

[icy hollow]

you can even see in rarran's most recent video against bean

he almost beat bean

and bean played like 10000x better lol

but the shop kept rewarding rarran's bad decisions

[crystal field]

god i love rarran

[vale jetty]

I don’t consider that luck personally it’s just taking risks in my eyes

[icy hollow]

like bean got a red seal 2 and strengthened it up to a king. the moment after he did that, the next pack had a red seal jack. so rarran got rewarded for not doing that

[icy hollow]

that is luck

lol

[crystal field]

bad risks tho

like

[vale jetty]

That’s the point of a risk

[crystal field]

risks with less than 1% chance of positive outcome

[icy hollow]

yea

[icy hollow]

and if you dont get punished for the ris

you got lucky

[grave magnet]

which one?

[opal delta]

this is the end for me

[icy hollow]

im not saying its bad. its extremely fun, i encourage you to try multiplayer

[opal delta]

goodbye cruel world...

[crystal field]

do u need chips bad

[icy hollow]

but there is definetly luck involved

[vale jetty]

In the seeds ‘eyes’ tho it’s the right choice since both players could do the exact same stuff technically speaking

[icy hollow]

no

[opal delta]

I made it out alive

[icy hollow]

taking a rare skip is just the wrong play

[grave magnet]

i need another mult joker or a chips joker

[icy hollow]

but if the rare happens to be a negative blueprint

the person who did the wrong play got rewarded

[crystal field]

prob worth taking scary boy, if not just sell erosion

[icy hollow]

or maybe both players have $500. but one takes a wraith for some dumb reason and its a blueprint. etc

[vale jetty]

In that instance tho it’s the right play, if it’s a possibility it’s a possibility, we just look at it differently ig

[grave magnet]

it'll be powerful if i can get my hands on paredolia now

[icy hollow]

do you know what luck is

[unkempt creek]

i have a 14 card deck on ante 6

[crystal field]

well yes, but also worth it to just fix for face cards, especially because you alr have the chad

[icy hollow]

the right move isnt determined by the result. its determined by the information you have at the time

[grave magnet]

True

[opal delta]

I reached a billion

[crystal field]

something like hallucination or cartomancer is comparable to a pareidolia in this situation

and pareidolia sucks on mark and plant

[opal delta]

hallucination is my favorite joker

[obtuse island]

It do be like that more often than not.

[crystal field]

its really goated

[icy hollow]

hos much steel do you have?

[vale jetty]

Yes, having the same seed tho means either player can technically be screwed by their own correct play seems like perfect balancing in my eyes, especially from other games I played where luck is much more a factor

[crystal field]

honestly hallucination being a common and cartomancer being uncommon seems weird to me, I guess thats the price of consistency

[opal delta]

I had 3 of those red seal steel cards

[icy hollow]

yea. im not saying theres anything wrong with the mode. like i've said multiple times, i love playing it. but there is quite a lot of luck involved

i mean like just a few videos ago

rarran beat drspectered

lmao

[vale jetty]

I came from hearthstone so the amount of luck and random stuff being factored and playing around for me seems way easier, haven’t tried it tho just watched it a lot

[lunar zealot]

balatro multiplayer =/= balatro gold stake =/= balatro endless

[crystal field]

DrSpectered said smth earlier on yt about it after the finals w bean that made alot of sense actualy

[crystal field]

i forget exavtly but just because u win on multiplayer doesnt mean you played better or are a “better player”

[icy hollow]

🙏 🙏 🙏

[icy hollow]

basically. don't be result oriented. lol

[crystal field]

yes rhat was the tldr

thx

[lunar zealot]

Idol is great on multiplayer, unusable on gold stake and meh in endless

[crystal field]

and at the end of the day just have fun and learn

its video game

[vale jetty]

My mind sadly doesn’t work for games to have fun, it’s only programmed to win, I jump from game to game once I hit the highest ranks

[crystal field]

I like Idol for endless i like the idol challenge more than the baron challenge personally

[lunar zealot]

Bro play animal crossing

[vale jetty]

Too boring for me 😭😭

[icy hollow]

idol "feels" more like the peak build imo. even tho it scores way less

[vale jetty]

Trust me I wish I could just play to have fun but every game is just a grind for me

[crystal field]

some of these new horizons newgens play animal crossing like its ranked

[humble gulch]

I'm so happy right now. Vampire and Midas mask golden sticker

[icy hollow]

cus its like. you get the biggest hand. the polychrome, glass. feels like you peaked

[crystal field]

ill never reset my switch clock

[icy hollow]

but then boring baron mogs it 😔

[crystal field]

Yes I agree!

Actually it was way easier for me to get a gold stake w baron

already playing towards high card

but Idol is cathartic af

[opal delta]

honestly either talisman or black hole is fine, I would lean towards talisman right now because im a little tight on money at the moment

[crystal field]

cryptid 7 of diamond now

[hallow sinew]

CRYPTID

[hallow sinew]

lmao 😭

[icy hollow]

i dont think i've had an actual idol run on gold stake ante 8 tbh

[hallow sinew]

same

[icy hollow]

like i've carried it through multiple times but not actually used it

[opal delta]

OH WAIT I FORGOT THIS WAS A MEGA SPECTRAL PACK

oops~

[hallow sinew]

i was wondering

[opal delta]

okay what should I talisman and cryptid

[crystal field]

8 ball potential

[hallow sinew]

probably the jack cryptic

[opal delta]

first boss blind is the head

[crystal field]

unironically it is either the jack or 8 i think ? and head probs doesnt matter

you could just settle for 1 gold seal and get the black hole too

[opal delta]

what if we cryptid a 7, that would be funny

[vale jetty]

Def the 6 and get Dracula and that spectral joker 😎

[grave magnet]

should i grab it?

[crystal field]

nauurrrrr

❌

[grave magnet]

ok

[crystal field]

flower pot

[hallow sinew]

always get negative jokers. can never go wrong right??

[vale jetty]

Temperance value

[crystal field]

actually I was curious does flower pot and splash make playing flower pot pairs possible

and if so is this ever worth considering

[hallow sinew]

if it is i doubt it’s worth it takes a lot of random deck building crap

[crystal field]

well the idea is no deck fixing required. Get a pair and add 2 random cards of the other suits.

splash splats all 4 for 3x

[minor portal]

splash hc

[hallow sinew]

oh good point i read the thing wrong, that’s my fault

[wicked warren]

this is urgent guys, do i sell a mime for the extra hand size

i’m only at nine hand size

[vale jetty]

So how are updates gonna work in this game, like jokers get changed?

[hallow sinew]

probably not depends on deck

[crystal field]

i believe its happened before this way

[minor portal]

they will remove herobrine

[vale jetty]

About time, bro keeps jump scaring me

[hallow sinew]

for real so scary

[icy hollow]

yes

[crystal field]

freddy joker

[hallow sinew]

har har har har

[crystal field]

well i think there should be a bear joker to go with bull 🐂

and bootstraps sucks.

😓

[hallow sinew]

preach

[vale jetty]

What about in plasma deck

[crystal field]

i believe its even worse on plasma

[unkempt creek]

bootstraps is god awful on plasma

almost if not all plus mult is shit on plasma

they dont do jack shit

[vale jetty]

Am I thinking of the right deck 😅

[crystal field]

maybe!

[vale jetty]

I’m thinking of bull nevermind haha

[unkempt creek]

things that give a lot of chips or a lot of xmult are good on plasma

[crystal field]

alot of xmult* its really gotta be played card or held in hand effect xmult

unlessu get 5 xmult scalers early somehow?

but by that point ur just wanting chips anyway

[unkempt creek]

i have a decent build

[wicked warren]

it was better but only because i needed to copy the red seals

[unkempt creek]

possibly naneinf

i need to farm money

somehow

[wicked warren]

e19 was max with the two mines and e22 with the dna

[unkempt creek]

well

omg i just rolled brainstorm lol

i sell perkeo right

[crystal field]

probably

[unkempt creek]

or dna

[crystal field]

not dna i fear ur too low on cards

[unkempt creek]

yeah

[crystal field]

unlessu wanna play magic trick

[grave magnet]

well look who showed up.

[unkempt creek]

nah imma sell a perkeo

i had 3 perkeos earlier

i sold one for bp

[vale jetty]

What’s the naneinf you can go for with your build

[unkempt creek]

baron mime

if i get a cryptid somehow it would be wraps

thats why i still have 6s in my deck

for sixth sense

[vale jetty]

Don’t you need dna then, never mind forgot about cryptid

[icy hollow]

yes

[crystal field]

dna in this case will make more handsize

[vale jetty]

What’s the easiest deck to get gold stakes on?

[unkempt creek]

i just have to really hope my idol doesnt hit a 6

[icy hollow]

yellow imo

checkered if youre new to the game

[unkempt creek]

uh

[icy hollow]

and youre flush spammer

[unkempt creek]

whats the play here

[icy hollow]

medium

[unkempt creek]

for what tarots

[crystal field]

blue imo

having 5 hands for scaling +mult is game over

or

game win

[vale jetty]

I think I have officially gotten out of flush spamming 🙌 I’ve never done a run without a flush but I don’t want that card in my pool

[icy hollow]

i see a 6 there so i assume your deck isnt fully fixed? or is that the last one

[unkempt creek]

i have 3 for sixth sense

[grave magnet]

Holy shit...

[unkempt creek]

rest are king of hearts

[icy hollow]

damn

pretty risky with idol

[unkempt creek]

ik

i mean i could sell idol and highroll for a trib

[icy hollow]

but if youre going for it then idk 🙏 i guess trance even tho planet levels arent that significant

[icy hollow]

😭 🙏

could savescum it too

[unkempt creek]

true

i might

[icy hollow]

gl

[unkempt creek]

this is defo the most potential ive had for naneinf

[crystal field]

huge w

time to go ancient joker crazy mode

[unkempt creek]

it hit canio

[vale jetty]

What’s the last deck to unlock is it any fun?

[unkempt creek]

oh no

i lost

[icy hollow]

nice. then yea, blue/yellow are quite easy. ghost deck i see people like a lot too

but ngl i dont rly play ghost deck so idk

[crystal field]

erratic and yea its fun

[vale jetty]

What’s it do

[icy hollow]

your deck is randomized

so you can start with like 10 kings lmao

[vale jetty]

That sounds fun af

[unkempt creek]

i did not lose

i had enough glass

im okay for now ig

im in desperate need for scoring

[vale jetty]

We believe in you

[crystal field]

just get scoring tech, ezpz

[crystal field]

most of the time its just a normal deck with a few differences

but when u get that one seed

[vale jetty]

Are any of these jokers worth unlocking?

[crystal field]

[vale jetty]

Sounds like adaptability to me which sounds fun

[crystal field]

is worth to try and unlock everything imo

the 18 or fewer is wee which is the best chip scaler in the game

[vale jetty]

I will once I gold stake all the decks, I’d rather not dilute my joker pool with bad jokers to maximize wins

[crystal field]

i mean

[orchid wren]

Gah damn

[cloud sinew]

balala

[orchid wren]

Holy bafoon pack

[crystal field]

its been said a billion times but no such thing as bad joker

[cloud sinew]

well

[unkempt creek]

damn man

i lost

[crystal field]

all jokers are situational etc

so better to have every available option imo

[cloud sinew]

there exists a situation where every joker is good, sure

but some jokers are bad in like 799/800 situations

i.e showman, idol

[crystal field]

this is in response tk the argument of not unlocking jokers because they might be bad

i dont see that as a good idea

[vale jetty]

I know but some are often used more to win than others, idc about gold staking all the jokers just the decks, see I’m an ultimate sweat and wanna maximize winning 😭😭😭

[crystal field]

thats true !

[cloud sinew]

i would interpret "bad" as "makes the pool worse on average"

and i agree that there are jokers that do that

[minor portal]

don't unlock blueprint

[cloud sinew]

idol being one of them

[crystal field]

i mean sure you might get idol when u needed burglar

[vale jetty]

Yeah that’s a better way to phrase it

[crystal field]

but thats so negatable imo

[cloud sinew]

there exist very few scenarios where idol is better than any other uncommon that could appear, excluding showman

[crystal field]

esp considering how big the pools of each joker is that theyre all somewhat rare as it is anyway

[crystal field]

hey dont forget my goat seance

[frank raft]

seance is peak

[cloud sinew]

seance is worth taking into a round if rental for the sake of potentially getting a spectral

[vale jetty]

If they’re somewhat rare why wouldn’t I want to increase my chances of finding the ones I want

[crystal field]

the thing is you dont know which jokers you want until you are clear into the run

i still think its worth unlocking everything

[cloud sinew]

I know I don't want Idol 99.875% of the time

[crystal field]

it wont make your experience worsened by doing so

[vale jetty]

Yeah I get that, I guess it matter more earlier in the antes to stay alive or start building econ, later antes don’t really matter

[crystal field]

exactly

more options is better, its not gonna be a situation of rolling into stm and being like

[vale jetty]

That’s why I’m doing it tho for the earlier antes

[crystal field]

“wow i wish i never unlocked you”

[cloud sinew]

more options is better if it doesnt affect your other options

but it does, so this isnt necessarily true

[crystal field]

I mean,

[vale jetty]

Yeah that’s my mental roadblock

[crystal field]

play the game how you want Ill never tell you what to do

but thats my own take on the question

[vale jetty]

In other games I’ve played even a 2% increase of something is worth it if it’s gonna win me the game

That’s fair

[crystal field]

I mean same works for bala

but i dont think gettng more jokers in the pool will lower that

[cloud sinew]

I just don't agree.
if you take it to extremes, if I could lower the pool down to ~50 jokers of my choosing then I would

[icy hollow]

I would say for you specifically though. although getting worse jokers will overall make the pool worse. getting those jokers (for a newer player like you) would allow you to improve more imo. 🤷‍♂️

[crystal field]

Im not really talking in extremes, moreso in practice of playing the game so..

[icy hollow]

like getting into more different situations

[crystal field]

unlocking a joker doesnt mean now you see other jokers less

[icy hollow]

yes it does

[cloud sinew]

yes it does

[icy hollow]

thats exactly what it does

[cloud sinew]

that is how that works

[crystal field]

in theory yeah

[cloud sinew]

in practice also

[icy hollow]

in practice yeah

[crystal field]

but with 2 card slots in shop

[icy hollow]

holy me and lilo locked in 🤝

[crystal field]

the difference is negatable

even with 4

[lunar zealot]

Wrong! Ride the bus

[cloud sinew]

per shop it's negligible, but you don't have one shop per run do you

[lunar zealot]

Nvm bus is available from start

[vale jetty]

Even at work I’ve optimized my work down to the amount of mouse clicks I do to save time it’s just how I think 😭

[crystal field]

I still feel like these are bad arguments for not unlocking everything in the game

[cloud sinew]

I take tarots to stop it from appearing, it's only removing 1 tarot out of 22 but the difference across every roll is huge

[crystal field]

sorry

[crystal field]

yes true

[sly bolt]

hello chat I'm pretty new to the game, how do I unlock the scribbled joker?

[vale jetty]

I will unlock everything just not until all gold stake decks are done

[cloud sinew]

which is the same principle for not unlocking jokers that make the pool worse on average

[icy hollow]

i mean. i think they should unlock them all. to improve at the game

[cloud sinew]

so then why do you disagree with one but not the other

[crystal field]

This maybe is a better argument for me

[icy hollow]

but more bad jokers unlocked directly means a worse joker pool

[vale jetty]

I didn’t mean to start an argument in here guys I’m sorry 😭

[crystal field]

I think theres no reasonable argument for not unlocking the jokers except if the requirement is unreasonable

like seeing double

[cloud sinew]

...?

[crystal field]

but still worth to try and unlock them all

[cloud sinew]

seeing double is one of the easiest conditional xmults to activate

up there with blackboard and duo

[crystal field]

didnt read what I said

the condition to UNLOCK seeing double

[vale jetty]

I think it’s reasonable to me cause the less runs I do is less time playing to complete the stakes

[cloud sinew]

you said "if the requirement is unreasonable", i didnt think that was the [unlock requirement]

also that's like

not relevant at all really

[crystal field]

it was basically an example for one reason why one might choose to avoid unlocking a joker

[grave magnet]

i fucking hate water.

[crystal field]

yea the water sucks

[sly bolt]

then you'll get thirsty

[cloud sinew]

it's not that you would avoid it, it's that you wouldn't go out of your way to do it because it's "unreasonable"

[grave magnet]

THIS WAS THE PERFECT RUN

[sly bolt]

water is essential to the human body

[grave magnet]

GOD DAMN IT!

[vale jetty]

I’m just a big fan of min maxxing’ that’s why every Isaac run I do takes hours

[crystal field]

and thats totally chill

[sly bolt]

did you know? the human body is around 70-75% water

[left wave]

did you know we are composed of 70% water ?
kinda funny right ?

[crystal field]

like i said you can do it however u wanna do it

[alpine hollow]

now im thirsty too

[left wave]

oh damn

[sly bolt]

me when I see Teto

I love Teto

I wanna sniff her hair

[cloud sinew]

we're not arguing about preferences though we're arguing about whether it's optimal to do so

[grave magnet]

I WAS SO FUCKING CLOSE TOO

[alpine hollow]

its about as much as a lettuce or something

[icy hollow]

if you want to minmax more though. i feel like just getting bettter at the game overall would be more significant rn. then after you're good, then have an optimized profile 🤷‍♂️

[crystal field]

its suboptimal to unlock jokers? Im lost as to what ur saying if im being real

[alpine hollow]

imgoing to go become hydrated

[crystal field]

If u want I can start from the beginning

[cloud sinew]

its suboptimal to unlock some jokers

[vale jetty]

I should’ve rephrased my question to are any of these jokers going to be beneficial with most decks to completing a gold stake run, more specific question

[cloud sinew]

i.e Idol

[crystal field]

those jokers are all somewhat reasonable to use except maybe htr

which is the jacks one

[alpine hollow]

hit the road is great thugh

[crystal field]

but thrn id never get to use idol

[alpine hollow]

all of them are good

[vale jetty]

I will try not to unlock that one then, I trust you guys 🫡

[crystal field]

seems like a bad time

[alpine hollow]

in the right circumstances

[cloud sinew]

which would improve your runs 99.9875% of the time

[crystal field]

id rather see idol when I dont want it than never see idol ever

[vale jetty]

Idol won me one of my first runs ever

[crystal field]

but thats just how I play the game

[alpine hollow]

fair enoguh

[cloud sinew]

Showman is an active detriment most of the time

[left wave]

i mean, you will have to unlock them anyway one at a time

[vale jetty]

When I got back in the game after watching bean play multiplayer I thought idol was so good 😭😭

[unkempt creek]

it is

[sly bolt]

you should definitely unlock madness

[alpine hollow]

True

[unkempt creek]

with proper deck fixing

[cloud sinew]

which basically never happens in ante 8

[crystal field]

madness sweep!!!

[sly bolt]

MADNESS

WRAAHHHHHH

[crystal field]

there are different ways to play balatro i fear

besides gold stale

[vale jetty]

Yeah I won’t until all gold stakes are done, I just want to play multiplayer but since I’m so far on mobile I’m going to complete it here then full unlock on my pc since I’ve already done it elsewhere

[sly bolt]

anything below gold stake is lame

[cloud sinew]

ante 8 is the default, endless is secondary to that

[alpine hollow]

im a bad player lmao

[sly bolt]

endless is also lame

[crystal field]

thats how the game is balanced yes!

[potent tree]

do i finish c++ (20 jokers) or rb (3 challenges) first guys

[icy hollow]

You vould always do that on a 2nd profile

[left wave]

i see that's not a bad choice

[crystal field]

that is a good point, but Im still working on c++ and idol happens to be a joker I need a sticker for

[cloud sinew]

ergo Idol is a very bad joker [in reference to thunk's balance philosophy]

[crystal field]

~w~

[alpine hollow]

i had to make a second profle for the challange runs, because my stats were bloated by egg

[vale jetty]

Yeah so just trying to speedrun it all for the time being, I can’t see myself grinding the game after all gold stakes are done but I can see myself grinding multiplayer for the chance to play in tournaments

[crystal field]

I agree but in the case that its epic, Id rather that option be available to me, but thats just how I like to play ig

[icy hollow]

3 profiles too little for me atp lol. I had to delete one of my c++ profiles a while back

[potent tree]

hex bloated my stats when i was gold staking ghost deck

[cloud sinew]

why do you keep saying "thats just how I like to play" and stuff like that, it feels like a dog whistle

[alpine hollow]

that too

[crystal field]

if all I cared abt was gold stake wins id never unlock anything besides blueprint and just use the scaling jokers

[potent tree]

honestly when will the day come when mercury overtakes jupiter? soon i hope

[vale jetty]

That’s what I would’ve done if I knew what the unlocks were, some are inevitable tho

[cloud sinew]

you wouldnt unlock chad/brainstorm/invis/duo/trio/burnt joker/arrowhead/agate...?

[void briar]

actually majority of jokers are good for certain situations

[alpine hollow]

its a single player game

[crystal field]

Im just playing along with this hypothetical

[cloud sinew]

and?

[unkempt creek]

flower shit

ik it can be useful

[crystal field]

roffle moment

[unkempt creek]

but still

[void briar]

in fact not even majority i would say basically all but like 3

[alpine hollow]

there is no and

[potent tree]

since you're so knowledgable. would you prefer ante 1 first shop grimbo or bus

[void briar]

^???

[cloud sinew]

thats not an explanation at all then

[alpine hollow]

tbh ive got no clue what roffle is like

[unkempt creek]

it can be

[crystal field]

bus!!!! bussss

[vale jetty]

I remember watching roffle play hearthstone 🥀🥀

[cloud sinew]

bus

[unkempt creek]

a straight

a 4oak

[languid pecan]

bus

[unkempt creek]

5oak

etc

[crystal field]

he says the single player game line sometimes from what ive watched

[vale jetty]

And rarran

[royal bobcat]

Agate was the last joker I unlocked for some reason

[crystal field]

bcuz clubs are stinkyy

[void briar]

he used to not look so miserable

[jagged torrent]

To be fair, you have to have a very high lQ to
understand Balatro. The mechanics are
extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp
of theoretical mathematics most of the
factors will go over a typical player's head.
There's also Rarran's nihilistic outlook, which
is deftly woven into his characterisation - his
personal philosophy draws heavily from O gracious king Spectered's literature, for instance. The players understand this stuff;
they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of the equations, to realize that they're not just complex- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Balatro truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the depth in Jimbo's existencial catchphrase "Maybe Go
Fish is more our speed..." which itself is a cryptic reference to Murle Robbins epic conflict with Crazy Eights l'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as LocalThunk's genius unfolds itself on their computer screens. What fools... how I pity them. And yes by the way, I DO have a Jimbo tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only-
And even they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 lQ points of my own
(preferably lower) beforehand.

[cloud sinew]

im asking if you think those jokers make the pool worse on average and that's why you wouldn't unlock them

[potent tree]

my last was stone. and oddly enough i have yet to gold sticker both of those

[proper flame]

First true high card run. Not a bad lineup for ante 8 runs though admittedly red stakes

[void briar]

i swaer roffle was way happier when he was making hearthstone content

[sly bolt]

STENCIL

stencil 🔥

[alpine hollow]

what is that space for an image in the top right

[royal bobcat]

Well if your joker is only usable in the part of the game that is unbalanced I think you should do something about it yes

[manic talon]

nah not really

[crystal field]

Gonna be real, I just dont think about the game this way. I dont need the pool of jokers to be optimized to win. sorry

[vale jetty]

RIGHT today I watched one of his balatro videos for the first time and I couldn’t finish the video

[sly bolt]

stencil is epic

[proper flame]

lowkey a very good jonkler

[cloud sinew]

you literally just said "Im just playing along with this hypothetical"

[jagged torrent]

Did you unlock the scribble jonkler?

[void briar]

look at his facial expression and attitude difference

[potent tree]

stencil does well if you ankh it

[alpine hollow]

w speech btw

[sly bolt]

my last balatro screenshot was with stencils

[proper flame]

I stretched it with just a x2 as long as i could w golden joker but had to give it up in ante 7

[potent tree]

if you ankh it and then build a planet it's gg

[sly bolt]

I ate banana bread

[cloud sinew]

you're not "playing along with this hypothetical" if you reject the premise of the hypothetical

[proper flame]

I found 0(zero) spectral packs in the entire run

[royal bobcat]

Happens

[icy hollow]

😭 😭 😭

[minor portal]

maybe the hypothetical were the friends we made along the way

[royal bobcat]

It's fine

[potent tree]

0 = egg, egg supremacy

[royal bobcat]

Spectrals are often just winmore later anyway

[crystal field]

If the pool is smaller, there is more consistency, I mean this is what you’re arguing. All I’m saying is that the consistency of joker pool isn’t important enough for me to not unlock jokers. Besides I already unlocked them all so this doesn’t really matter to me anyway

[void briar]

😨

[jagged torrent]

I tired to ankh and ecto stencil, it was pretty fun :3

[vale jetty]

It’s just how he enjoys the game guys it’s okay, I got the answer I wanted 😭😭

[jagged torrent]

Got to e300 :3

[potent tree]

doesn't ankh remove negative tho

[sly bolt]

stencil is the joker of all time

[manic talon]

i watched his hearthstone streams and he doesnt look like hes having any fun at the end of his HS era

[cloud sinew]

#⚙・modding-general

[void briar]

maybe it was something that happened just before he started balatro?

[jagged torrent]

Yes that's what the ectos are for ^-^

[royal bobcat]

Idol is SHIT okay I will personally gros Michel anyone who says otherwise

[cloud sinew]

you're not the only one here though; I would like to continue talking about it even if you got your answer

[royal bobcat]

Endless is NOT real

[void briar]

cause i swear his attitude used to be so much more positive

[alpine hollow]

I'd recommend https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1200105253559873707

[mortal nimbus]

this issue is likely just the vanilla crash when you reload a save after hitting naneinf

[jagged torrent]

Gors mitch nan when?

[manic talon]

idk im not one to speculate

[vale jetty]

No one was having fun at the end of the hearthstone era tbh, I almost lost my job from playing battlegrounds

[jagged torrent]

+15 my mult to this rn

[vale jetty]

I know I just feel everyone is against him and it all stemmed from my question so I feel kinda bad

[potent tree]

is it bad if i've never attempted a naneinf run

[languid pecan]

enjoy the game how you want; its a single player game but for reference smaller pool does mean more consistency but if you unlock good jokers it makes it less likely to find the preunlocked bad jokers

[alpine hollow]

no

[royal bobcat]

No I never have either

[cloud sinew]

also please stop saying stuff like "it's okay to play that way" [paraphrasing], I agree. repeating that rhetoric makes me feel like you're taking my conversation in a hostile way / that I'm saying it's not okay to play that way.

[royal bobcat]

It's not fun

[crystal field]

I don’t need help for that honestly

[mortal nimbus]

yeah, there is a fix when you have access to your save file, but I don't have a link to it, and I am unsure if it works with a modded save

[royal bobcat]

It's hours of mindlessly playing the same hand

[opal delta]

I dont like doing naneinf runs

[alpine hollow]

naneinf isnt even a playstyle intended

[manic talon]

the vanilla game just kinda breaks when you get naneinf yes, other runs wouldnt crash like this tho, its only for your naneinf run

[crystal field]

Sorry, I did not intend to come across as hostile!

[potent tree]

i mean i did have a high card run earlier today but only because bus and i wasn't getting a lot of pairs

[vale jetty]

I’m not saying I can help, most the people I deal with online get heated over stuff like this and I don’t want anyone blood sugar raising but if it’s a civil convo I’m all for it

[icy hollow]

I mean the argument is whether or not its better lol. Not if you enjoy it or not

[crystal field]

actually I appreciate the discussion

[void briar]

better conversation than 99 % of other discord servers

[languid pecan]

nope, naneinf is cool but it was an unintentional addition anyways

[vale jetty]

Not sugar wow I’m an idiot

[crystal field]

Its better but not better enough imo

[cloud sinew]

...? I never said you came across as hostile

[mortal nimbus]

for the future, if you run into other issues while you are playing modded, try to replicate the issue with steamodded disabled as steamodded itself (even with no mods) can cause issues.

Also search in #1200105253559873707 for similar issues first

[jagged torrent]

My jimbo is kinda mult less

[royal bobcat]

The only hostile person in here is Jimbo making FUN OF ME when I lose

[potent tree]

5oak level 3 in ante 11

damn

[jagged torrent]

I score with my face cards 💔

[cloud sinew]

it's fine you can play CloverPit and Jimbo SHUTS UP for once. he's just sat there

[icy hollow]

😭 😭 😭 what

[languid pecan]

5oak 🤢

[royal bobcat]

Hmmm that is a compelling argument to buy the game

[alpine hollow]

3oak is more fun, imo

[jagged torrent]

It's almost like I need it to live here

[cloud sinew]

splash + bus <3

[jagged torrent]

Yeah no shit I need money 😔 💔

[alpine hollow]

delayed gratification + burglar

[manic talon]

i would simply never lose and jimbo will only compliment me

[jagged torrent]

Marry Andy and burgler

[crystal field]

to the moon on green deck

[languid pecan]

you lost me at green deck

[vale jetty]

I wonder what local thunk’s position would be for this discussion

[potent tree]

thunk i'm watching your run, why you tryin not to laugh bruh that's disrespectful as--

[left wave]

hologram and erosion build anyone ?

[cloud sinew]

see, the funny thing is... there is actually a niche where this is optimal

[unkempt creek]

dont forget seed money and money tree

[crystal field]

so awesome

it will instantly win if you do this btw

good luck!

[vale jetty]

Well all believe in you

[alpine hollow]

thats why i dont make face card builds lol

[void briar]

why didnt you reroll boss

[jagged torrent]

I only had one reroll

[crystal field]

my jokers kinda homeless 😿

[potent tree]

no retcon?

[void briar]

dang you didnt fall f or the bait

[mortal nimbus]

I can probably find the reddit post regarding this

[alpine hollow]

i think they rolled into plant

[unkempt creek]

pretty sure you can create a savestate with brainstorm mod

[jagged torrent]

This was a nan run mate

[void briar]

wait what did u roll away from