🕹・game-discussion

[obsidian patrol]

no i gotta have my semantics

[white zodiac]

or riff raff shitting drunkys

[slate lance]

My friend wants me to do it so we can do online tho

[unreal iron]

in all seriousness i do think trib is the worst legendary in a standard gold stake run

[pale wolf]

for thousands of years the word finger has referred to thumb, I don't think any medical definition changes in the past 200 years can change my mind

[cloud sinew]

that's not how etymology works, that's how descriptivism works

[unreal iron]

being able to disable bosses is so huge with chicot

[nova mantle]

Can y'all request the server staff to change the channel name to finger-discussion?

[cloud sinew]

closed minded, not arguing with you anymore then

[white zodiac]

wtf

[obsidian patrol]

genuinely cannot be this serious

[pale wolf]

It's stupid to call something that's obviously a finger not a finger

[nova mantle]

Would be more accurate rn

[pale wolf]

digits are fingers

[atomic trout]

I hate the

[obsidian patrol]

by balatro definition, the thumb is a finger

[cloud sinew]

you dont know its a thumb, anyway

[nova mantle]

Y'all fellas quick question, what's y'all favorite static xmult?

[cloud sinew]

blackboard

[nova mantle]

Mine would be blackboard

[pliant jewel]

driver license

[pale wolf]

probably Cavendish if I have the choice

[tranquil steppe]

License or nanners

[cloud sinew]

license over blackboard is crazy to me

[vale wharf]

You can only choose one forever...
Midas or Rocket?

[cloud sinew]

midas

[obsidian patrol]

rocket

[white zodiac]

thumbs are fingers because my vietnamese language doesn't have a name for a thumb lol

[tranquil steppe]

License is so much easier to get working than blackboard

[white zodiac]

midas in any form

[nova mantle]

Ofc it is
What would be yo top 5? It's always interesting to see peeps opinions on the 5 legendaries

[white zodiac]

what no lol

[cloud sinew]

absolutely not. blackboard can consistently trigger as SOON AS YOU GET IT

[tranquil steppe]

Yes. Blackboard involves either deck modifying, discarding, luck, etc

[vale wharf]

People really like Midas, huh?

[pale wolf]

How is it harder to only draw three red cards then to get 16 enhanced cards into your deck

[tranquil steppe]

You guys are funny

[white zodiac]

blackboard just requires you to play pairs and all red suits in hand

[nova mantle]

Trib at lowest it's a constant but the other 4 is very variable

[tranquil steppe]

You get enhanced cards naturally

[robust lance]

your final challenge: use blackboard without deck fixing

[floral mural]

not at all. blackboard is really easy to trigger

[white zodiac]

two of these are not required

[cloud sinew]

you have to go out of your way to feed drivers license typically

[floral mural]

my favourite xmult is cavendish tho

always feels good to see it

[cloud sinew]

you do NOT have to deckfix for blackboard, it just helps

[white zodiac]

not as soon as you get it unconditionally

[tranquil steppe]

Every time drivers license pops up, I already have over 16 enhanced cards

[nova mantle]

Thank you jigsaw that's so easy ❤️‍🩹

[tranquil steppe]

Idk how you guys are playing the game

[balmy ridge]

is mmmm

[white zodiac]

now this is a strawman

[cloud sinew]

so you just never find drivers license in the first 3 antes? statistically improbable

[balmy ridge]

is it worth holding a wraith until the next ante? will it give a different joker?

[obsidian patrol]

no

[floral mural]

most enhancments dont really matter imo. especially early when id not focus on anything but one glass and gold cards

[balmy ridge]

dont play ghost much

ok

[tranquil steppe]

I think that’s happened maybe 1 time

[robust lance]

yeah you weren't actually that bad of a person so you got off the hook

[nova mantle]

License is a goated choice

[tranquil steppe]

And I took it and had 16 enhanced by ante 4

[cloud sinew]

then you havent played enough to be making general statements like that

[white zodiac]

this is strictly impossible by probability

[tranquil steppe]

I can say whatever the fuck I want

[floral mural]

yes that one glass is for glass joker

[nova mantle]

Haven't been taking that many enhancements in my last runs but I already have it gold staked, very good Jimbo

[pale wolf]

what if they're anomalously unable to perceive driver's licenses before ante 4

[floral mural]

glass joker runs are fun :3

[cloud sinew]

no you can't actually

[obsidian patrol]

you're so tuff.

[pliant jewel]

i have not have a single glass joker run in my life

[tranquil steppe]

You’re so cool lilo

[cloud sinew]

thanks :3 /gen

[pale wolf]

well one would assume that if you're saying something you usually want to be taken seriously

[tranquil steppe]

lol

[white zodiac]

this makes no sense considering ante 3 being the first ante to generally pull out packs

[tranquil steppe]

I mean I was serious lol

You guys just play differently

And that’s okay

[nova mantle]

Glad I didn't got 3 cards discarded for each hand played

[wintry ice]

your statements can also be corrected by others

freedom of speech works both ways

[tranquil steppe]

Idk how opinions can be corrected but okay

[cloud sinew]

what's your winrate at gold stake

[white zodiac]

statistics

[floral mural]

id honestly not care for most enhancments post ante 4 too. if its not glass steel lucky or gold id rather take an emperor gamble or something else in a tarot pack usually

[cloud sinew]

youre very passive aggressive, can you try not to be please

[floral mural]

and steel lucky and glass are all situational

[tranquil steppe]

lol I’m being attacked

[floral mural]

gold cards are universal tho

[tranquil steppe]

wtf do you want me to do

[nova mantle]

I made the static x mult question to change the topic and y'all arguing again 💔 I'm gonna get off lads

[cloud sinew]

i asked you nicely to not be passive aggressive, i believe i was very clear in that actually

[white zodiac]

most of the enhancements I take are given in 1 enhancement with magician being one of my exceptions

[obsidian patrol]

says some dumb shit gets corrected says they're being attacked

[tranquil steppe]

No you’re feeding the fire and you know it. Get off your high horse

[pliant jewel]

they weren't really correcting, lilo was stating an opinion of their own (that is, that they think you don't have enough experience to support the claims you make)

[keen ermine]

Noo i skip the mime

[robust lance]

WAIT!!!

[floral mural]

i just dont value wild cards stones and bonus/mult cards ngl

[cloud sinew]

i was sincerely asking you to not be so passive aggressive

[tranquil steppe]

Got it

[cloud sinew]

<- autistic btw

[floral mural]

stones are good but niche in use

[cloud sinew]

i dont do bullshit NT shenanigans like what you're insinuating I'm doing

[white zodiac]

I like stone like half of the time depending on other options in pack

[obsidian patrol]

never underestimate them in a pinch

[zinc willow]

Im working on black staking everything, doing pretty well

[tranquil steppe]

Okay

[nova mantle]

I gtg 😭 sorry dawg

[robust lance]

:P

[steep depot]

guys im dying next round should i ankh or hex

[pliant jewel]

that applies to a lot of bad things though

[nova mantle]

Good luck with y'all's runs lads

[balmy ridge]

twin

[balmy ridge]

huge hex

[nova mantle]

Love y'all

[lunar zealot]

Ello ello how we doin

[steep depot]

bet

[white zodiac]

well opening a statement with DL or BB for viability is open for a skill check conversation

[balmy ridge]

whats dl and bb

[lunar zealot]

Am i so stupid as to only now find out that ankh removes negative from copy

[tranquil steppe]

Dl or bb?

[steep depot]

the dice lucked out

[cloud sinew]

drivers license and blackboard

[balmy ridge]

maaaaayyyybe

[tranquil steppe]

lol oh

[balmy ridge]

ty ^_^

[lunar zealot]

Man

i have c++

[floral mural]

hey everyone whats your favourite bad thing in the game. i personally love green deck even if i know it aint the greatest

[pliant jewel]

i can't read im a balatro fan

[white zodiac]

the context clues can't be this hard

driver's license
black board

[balmy ridge]

yeah you should have probably known by now lol

[lunar zealot]

I guess i literally never run into the situation of having both a negative and an ankh

[pliant jewel]

me but anaglyph and cloud nine

[tranquil steppe]

I mean I prefer license because like I said, less cost to get working but it’s okay if you think otherwise

[balmy ridge]

read it?

[pliant jewel]

cloud nine is my goat

[lunar zealot]

The Family

[cloud sinew]

not that hard to just say what you meant /gen

[balmy ridge]

it does say "removes negative from copy" on ankh text

[floral mural]

cloud nine is scaling money its pretty solid and at worse its jsut golden joker

[robust lance]

ok but to be fair just say their full government names, dont have to abbreviate them

[nova mantle]

I'll be back in like an hour when I don't got class dw

[steep depot]

gg

[lunar zealot]

i have never had both a negative and an ankh at the same time

[tranquil steppe]

See more attacking

[nova mantle]

Can't have enough of the balastro server

[white zodiac]

where

[balmy ridge]

you don't need to twin

[tranquil steppe]

“Look at this dumb fucking noob”

[balmy ridge]

it has the same text

[cloud sinew]

that's just not what was said though

[pliant jewel]

oh wait i didnt see the word bad

[lunar zealot]

'Removes negative from copy' only appears if you have a negative

[cloud sinew]

it was passive aggressive for sure but this is just outright lying

[tranquil steppe]

Oh and you think I’m passive aggressive

[pliant jewel]

wait does it???

[vale wharf]

I just got a lucky ace to trigger both +20 mult and +$20 🔥

[lunar zealot]

EVERYONE STOP ARGUING
YURI BEAM

[cloud sinew]

...? youre doing it again i swear.

be direct or im blocking you

cant be dealing with this NT bullshit rn

[lunar zealot]

girls kissing straight to the skull

[glad sequoia]

I think that's the biggest red card I've ever had

[lunar zealot]

Most deadly weapon ever

[balmy ridge]

weird

is that tohou

whatever her name is

[unreal iron]

best to worst?
yorick
perkeo
canio
chicot
triboulet

[balmy ridge]

girl from touhou red girl

[unreal iron]

imo

[balmy ridge]

ragebait used to be believable

[cloud sinew]

teto /j

[balmy ridge]

no teto is pnk i think

[tranquil steppe]

What do you want me to be more direct with? I stated my opinion. You all disagreed and started jumping down my throat. It is what it is. I play differently than you all. End of story

[naive jolt]

When the baron is early

[pliant jewel]

erm actually the red card in this specific image is the same size as every other red card you might have encountered, unless you have encountered a bug that reduces their size 🤓

[lunar zealot]

baron is so absurdly bait here

[cloud sinew]

teto is red but shes not in touhou

[lunar zealot]

Take it anyway

[white zodiac]

rick > cano > chic > perk > trib

[lunar zealot]

nah im kidding

[balmy ridge]

baron bad

[lunar zealot]

Or am i

Muwahahahhahaha

[balmy ridge]

probably open pack instead

[lunar zealot]

open the pack

[cloud sinew]

blocked

[naive jolt]

I'm taking hone

[lunar zealot]

Take jolly actually

[tranquil steppe]

What is happening

[lunar zealot]

Nah

[pliant jewel]

you stated your opinion, and we stated that we disagree with your opinion

[balmy ridge]

actually take hone

[pliant jewel]

thats it

[balmy ridge]

yeah

[lunar zealot]

Hone does jackshit

[balmy ridge]

best play

[lunar zealot]

Just buy the pack

[balmy ridge]

no its the optimal play

[tranquil steppe]

*and attacked me

[pliant jewel]

attaacked what???

[lunar zealot]

Girl what even happened @cloud sinew

[tranquil steppe]

Hone is ass

[lunar zealot]

im too lazy to scroll up

[pliant jewel]

you're the one who brought up "look at this noob"

[tranquil steppe]

Where have you been

I’m getting slaughtered

[floral mural]

person posts ridiculous sounding opinion and is mad people are challenging it

[cloud sinew]

i nicely asked to stop being passive aggressive, proceeded to be passive agressive and then i said be direct or im blocking you and then was passive aggressive again

[pliant jewel]

at most they just said that your way of playing is bad

which is in no way a personal attack

[tranquil steppe]

This is untrue

[white zodiac]

#🕹・game-discussion message

[lunar zealot]

No why did this all start in the first place

[balmy ridge]

same idek whats going on

[tranquil steppe]

wtf yes that is

[lunar zealot]

i just said im too lazy to scroll up but ok thanks

[cloud sinew]

Cruiser said that DL > BB

[tranquil steppe]

Yes

[white zodiac]

I thought directly linking the start would help idk

[pale wolf]

You don't need to scroll up when you just click a button

[tranquil steppe]

And then this place exploded

[pale wolf]

All you need to do is scroll down

[naive jolt]

Holy double skip + very nice first boss, mean i can setup myself on heart flushes

[tranquil steppe]

And then I got attacked

[lunar zealot]

MYEH MYEH MYEH MYEH MYEH thats what you sound like

[tranquil steppe]

I’m the victim

Help

[lunar zealot]

I mean

[pale wolf]

cute

[lunar zealot]

ehhh

Not really

[unreal iron]

oooo risky game here

[lunar zealot]

blackboard is i think better in almost every way except the fringe scenario of painted deck + hand size vouchers

[naive jolt]

Never punished, rewarded with family

[lunar zealot]

Blackboard is cheaper, has an easier condition, and is uncommon

[unreal iron]

you might as well buy the shop smh

[lunar zealot]

meaning it's both easier to find and procs bbc

my goat

[balmy ridge]

blackboard is good

[pale wolf]

blackboard seriously needs a red suit counterpart

[unreal iron]

bbc 🤤

[tranquil steppe]

Blackboard involves you getting only black cards in your hand

[white zodiac]

in a question of what you find the goat of static x mults to be

[cloud sinew]

real

[pale wolf]

and it needs to be something equally enticing to build into

[lunar zealot]

Which is easy enough if you play small hands like pair or high card

[white zodiac]

I still vouch for the red seal idea

[unreal iron]

bloodbath

[lunar zealot]

playing red cards unscored

[naive jolt]

Indeed

[tranquil steppe]

What? No that’s the hardest

[unreal iron]

thats the only joker name i can think of

[pale wolf]

and honestly both rough gem and Bloodstone probably need some sort of change

[pliant jewel]

oh wait i think remember now we "attacked" you because you decided to be a smartass and go "I can say whatever the fuck I want"

[cloud sinew]

oh my god

Cruiser you don't understand how to use Blackboard /gen

[white zodiac]

it statistically isnt

[lunar zealot]

And world/moon is obviously easier to come by than empress/heiro/magician/etc etc

[balmy ridge]

it's pretty simple methinks

[floral mural]

red suits only have rough gem as good jokers while black suits have blackboard and seeing double arrowhead and agate its wildly out of balance

[tranquil steppe]

Where are these stats

[lunar zealot]

I don't understand

[orchid comet]

rtb or certificate?

[balmy ridge]

bus

[orchid comet]

I'd grab both but is that the right move?

[white zodiac]

the deck you play on...

[balmy ridge]

maaaaybe

i think its fine to take both

[naive jolt]

Wah second shop very nice too

[balmy ridge]

but probably not necessary

[cloud sinew]

You can play your red cards to get them out of your hand and blackboard triggers that hand

[pale wolf]

aggregate looking at top player runs, what sorts of builds they have in their streaks, what is the most consistent overall, etc

[tranquil steppe]

You still need at minimum 3 cards in your hand to be black

[pale wolf]

Small hands are better than large hands

[cloud sinew]

no you dont

[tranquil steppe]

I know

[cloud sinew]

blackboard works if you have no cards

[pliant jewel]

which is not that hard???

[orchid comet]

with rtb it might be better cuz it adds more number cards than face

[lunar zealot]

Having 0 cards in hand triggers blackboard

[balmy ridge]

might be worth taking certificate for a round or 2 before selling, you can pivot into a certain hand,rank or suit depending on what certificate gives

[tranquil steppe]

So you need to get down to only 5 cards possible in your hand?

[white zodiac]

and the materials you play around it (discards, throwaway hand)

[lunar zealot]

having a wild card in hand triggers blackboard

[pale wolf]

no? just saying that what you said was wrong

[cloud sinew]

no, that's not what I said.

[balmy ridge]

i thought certificate could create face cards? maybe i'm wrong

[cloud sinew]

it can

[tranquil steppe]

I’m confused

[pale wolf]

ofc it can

[lunar zealot]

I feel like we have a fundamental misunderstanding on our common ground

[balmy ridge]

yeah

[shell dagger]

The chance you still have >3 red cards in your hand after all discards is so low even in an unfixed deck

[orchid comet]

it does, there's just more number cards that's why I said that

[lunar zealot]

Blackboard gives x3 mult if all cards held in hand are black suits

[naive jolt]

The game is telling me to flush it out

[vale wharf]

All my money is going to be stolen 😭

[pale wolf]

In an eight hand size, yes you need three black cards at least
but you could have lower hand size or use hangman or something

[cloud sinew]

I'm arguing against what you said about needing a minimum of 3 black cards, that is all

[balmy ridge]

oh well yeah that's true

i'd prob take certificate for a bit

[unreal iron]

play the pair

[white zodiac]

half of the deck consists of black suits/red suits. you can play more than half of your 8 card hand size.

[orchid comet]

and ignore bus?

[tranquil steppe]

Right and that’s my point

[balmy ridge]

no both

[lunar zealot]

with pair and high card, you can force that really easily

[orchid comet]

alright

[balmy ridge]

always take bus when its that early

[tranquil steppe]

Optimizing blackboard involves resources

[orchid comet]

gotcha

[cloud sinew]

WOAH hook has another benefit; blackboard

[lunar zealot]

by just playing red cards that you want to get rid of

[tranquil steppe]

Just like drivers license

[pale wolf]

having to draw three black cards is like probably as likely as drawing a pair, It's very easy to do even on the base deck

[vale wharf]

I played 4oak

[balmy ridge]

also try not to win to quickly. you want to be playing high cards to scale bus, using all your hands if possible

[shell dagger]

Nowhere near as much resources are needed

[lunar zealot]

World/moon transform more cards than magician/heirophant do

[balmy ridge]

but be mindful of interest thresholds

[lunar zealot]

and also

[pale wolf]

driver's license you cannot get online for usually a couple antes

[lunar zealot]

Blackboard is uncommon

[tranquil steppe]

I disagree but we can end it

[cloud sinew]

involves MUCH less resources. you start with 50/50 black/red suits, so you're VERY unlikely to be put in a position where you can't trigger blackboard with 2 discards

[unreal iron]

goood

[white zodiac]

so statistically blackboard proc is trivial in the hands of the small. small hands

[lunar zealot]

BLAKCBOARD IS UNCOMMON

[balmy ridge]

bb + bbc goes crazy

bbbbc

[lunar zealot]

DOES NOBODY HEAR ME

[pale wolf]

You can't disagree with an objective count of resources

[lunar zealot]

BLACKBOARD IS UNCOMMON

BLAKCBOARD IS UNCOCMJN

BKAKCBAODND IS AUBCOCNN

[pliant jewel]

no it's legendary

[pale wolf]

we know, just ignoring that for a second

[pliant jewel]

i decided

[balmy ridge]

guys what rarity is blackboard

[tranquil steppe]

But then you’re using up discards for that (resources)

[white zodiac]

in which you have access to right off the bat

[shell dagger]

Disagreeing with combinatorics?

Ogey

[vale wharf]

No moves left...

[cloud sinew]

and?
it's something that's renewable vs something you have to spend money to add to your deck

[grizzled jetty]

challange. beat A8YRFUHG with ghost deck and red stake

[balmy ridge]

ok!

[shell dagger]

What’s special about the seed

[white zodiac]

the same applies to getting 16 enhancements via spending money...

[tranquil steppe]

Once drivers license is set up, you don’t need to do anything special. No wasting discards to set it up. No lowering your hand size needed, etc

[lunar zealot]

not that license is in any way bad

[pale wolf]

baron mime first shop /s

[lunar zealot]

But the main thing with license is that it costs a ton of money to get online

and until then does literally nothing

[pale wolf]

getting driver's license set up is a big endeavor, that's not just a trivial thing you could put at the start of the sentence

[grizzled jetty]

want to see how you guys will beat it

[keen ermine]

Is better to blueprint hangchad or photochad

[heavy heron]

yall ain’t seen the flush flowerpot

[lunar zealot]

at least constellation scales by x0.1 per planet

[pale wolf]

First of all it's hanging Chad and photograph, and you copy photo

[shell dagger]

Once blackboard is set up, (repeat of what you just said), except blackboard works completely fine in a pair build without setting up

[lunar zealot]

License is x1 and then goes straight to x3

[cloud sinew]

blackboard can activate almost always [from a deck starting position, i mean], drivers license requires you to use a minimum of 8 enhancement tarots

[tranquil steppe]

I disagree. You can set it up within 4 antes

[pale wolf]

That's a long fucking time what the fuck

[cloud sinew]

you can setup blackboard within 0 rounds

[lunar zealot]

You can

assuming you have the money

[white zodiac]

first round blackboard starts working

[vale wharf]

Chat, why is Cavendish only common and not rare? It provides so much value without any condition to be met unlike the other high xmult jokers

[tranquil steppe]

Sometimes

[unreal iron]

should drivers license lowkey be an x4

[lunar zealot]

But that's not always going to be the case

[unreal iron]

or is that busted

[white zodiac]

12 rounds

[shell dagger]

It does have a condition though

[cloud sinew]

it has a pre-requisite, which is gros michel going extinct

[pale wolf]

because you need to extinct another specific common first, and then encounter an additional specific common

[narrow wadi]

it has a condition to get (extincting banan) which makes it rare

[lunar zealot]

because banana has to expire and having cavendish be any rarer than it already is is unfun

[tranquil steppe]

lol someone give me a seed with drivers license ante 1

[white zodiac]

what

[lunar zealot]

just use saturn mod

[shell dagger]

ALEEB

[cloud sinew]

if you force drivers license youre gonna get it online sooner...
this doesnt prove anything

[heavy heron]

driver’s license, once on, applies to any hand; blackboard doesn’t necessarily work with every hand type

[cloud sinew]

the optimal play is RARELY to force drivers license early

[heavy heron]

both depend on where you’re at in the game

[narrow wadi]

obelisk is faster to get online than driver's license with a bigger payoff

[vale wharf]

It's kinda an easy pre-requisite, though
And banana itself provides so much value in the first 3 antes

[tranquil steppe]

This guy gets it

[lunar zealot]

Also please consider that license is expensive to get online and until then literally cannot provide anything

[unreal iron]

world:

[heavy heron]

i agree, world exists

[autumn mortar]

if cavendish was rare you would literally never see it 99% of runs

[heavy heron]

point stands though

[pale wolf]

bananas a pretty good value, but you have to play with the risk of losing your scoring every single round, and then once you lose it there's no guarantee you even see Cavendish

[lunar zealot]

16 enhanced cards is

for lack of a better term

Fucking expensive as all hell

[narrow wadi]

not rly, ur only picking up banana very early (or if u have space to be speculative i guess) and ur often selling it before it goes extinct even in runs u find it quickly

[heavy heron]

the only time i buy license is when i already have like 12+ enhancements

[lunar zealot]

and at least constellation has the gall to give scraps of xmult as you build it up from x1

[cloud sinew]

im almost never selling a michel if i take it early (exc. after like 5 rounds)

[tranquil steppe]

$32

[heavy heron]

blackboard? ehh… if you’re a pair spammer i can see why you’d take it

[lunar zealot]

license will stay at x1 until you get it up to 16

[narrow wadi]

i've had it last 12+ rounds multiple times where i needed the slot

[pale wolf]

ya best case scenario
(barring spectrals)

[cloud sinew]

which you should be if youre playing gold stake

[lunar zealot]

(and even then it's only a static x3)

[lunar zealot]

32 dollar is expensive

[cloud sinew]

pairs are meta for MANY reasons

[heavy heron]

(which i don’t because i don’t find it fun)

[lunar zealot]

also i don't know where you get that number from

[heavy heron]

to each their own

[tame cobalt]

It doesn't get disabled by suit blinds which is nice iirc

[lunar zealot]

it's definitely going to be higher

[heavy heron]

true

[tranquil steppe]

lol $32 is NOT that expensive in balatro

[heavy heron]

but it wouldn’t make sense if suit debuff bosses cancelled blackboard anyway

[lunar zealot]

it is when you factor in red and gold stake

[heavy heron]

well it cancels lovers on red cards

technically

[shell dagger]

Compare it to blackboard which costs $0 to start using it is expensive

[tranquil steppe]

To power up tons of cards AND get a consistent 3x yes please

[narrow wadi]

$32 over multiple rounds with good rng

[lunar zealot]

as well as having to juggle buying jokers and planets for survival

[naive jolt]

Mime is bait i think, not sure the voucher is useful

[pale wolf]

8 2card tarots is $32 but thats IDEAL scenario where you get empress, heirophant, magician every single time

[cloud sinew]

its likely much higher than that actually

[atomic trout]

No way...

[lunar zealot]

it feels like you're not listening to what i'm saying which hurts

[atomic trout]

Spot on!

[narrow wadi]

with red card mime is pretty mid cos ur not gonna get many gold cards

[tame cobalt]

I mean generally people recommend avoiding suit builds because of those boss blinds, but that card doesn't have that problem

[heavy heron]

yea

[naive jolt]

I took blue seal so i take mime

[orchid comet]

sell certificate, right?

[heavy heron]

not a big blackboard fan but it’s good for sure

[cloud sinew]

i would sell summit here

[orchid comet]

real

[shell dagger]

Sell summit

[unreal iron]

you dont need summit

[heavy heron]

i’ve had to make blackboard work on flushes

[lunar zealot]

technically summit can be better to sell

[heavy heron]

LOOLLL

[orchid comet]

damn

[orchid comet]

really?

I only got rtb on ante 3

[white zodiac]

also enhancements and suit changers exist in the same build. for statistical joker appearances id rather speculate working towards a joker that already works upon pickup, rather than working on a rarer speculative appearance for something that you would consider as an after thought. prior to the meta that is pair lobotomy

[heavy heron]

you have bus

[naive jolt]

Never punished

[unreal iron]

yes you have bus

[lunar zealot]

Girl wait i once had this run with blackboard bloodstone

[heavy heron]

oh

[lunar zealot]

i'm dead serious

[shell dagger]

You just got another x3

[heavy heron]

then sell bus maybe? depends

[cloud sinew]

youre on blue deck with blueprint and xmult, youll be fine

[heavy heron]

THATS PRETTY FUNNY

[orchid comet]

bus is at 9 with 2-3 scale per round

[cloud sinew]

ABSOLUTELY not. it's blue deck

[cloud sinew]

are you minimising score for max scaling?

[tame cobalt]

Bue dek

[shell dagger]

make it 5

[heavy heron]

what’s your bus at

oh 9?

yea sell mystic

[shell dagger]

play high cards and shove xmult to the left

[lunar zealot]

if you need mult

Use empress

[orchid comet]

no usually I play 2 pair or 3oak for square joker so actually no**

[white zodiac]

I had blackboard save me on a flush run of all things

[heavy heron]

it beats mystic in just 2 rounds

[lunar zealot]

certificate means you're not starving for ourple seals

Also you have x9 mult

from blueprint blavendish

[orchid comet]

I meant no

[heavy heron]

it’s so funny when this happens

[tranquil steppe]

Bus 🤮

[lunar zealot]

so like

[cloud sinew]

you should be playing pair/hc here, and make sure youre putting cavendish leftmost

[heavy heron]

that’s what i’m saying

[orchid comet]

alright

[heavy heron]

bus is good but damn do i hate it

[lunar zealot]

I fucking love bus

[cloud sinew]

you seem to hate good things

[white zodiac]

$32 and 4 antes, man does time travel slow

[shell dagger]

Im on a bus rn

[orchid comet]

so rn I sell summit, keep bp on certificate and scale bus as much as possible, right?

[orchid comet]

W

[white zodiac]

im about to be on a bus

[heavy heron]

🤷‍♀️

[orchid comet]

enjoy the view

[lunar zealot]

If you need scoring copy la banana

[orchid comet]

I love looking out a bus

[heavy heron]

i’ll take a green joker over bus

[orchid comet]

yas last hand

[naive jolt]

Mmmmmm parking with mime is very attractive, cause i still don't have my econ in check, probably yeeting crafty since i got planets now

[cloud sinew]

in what world...

[orchid comet]

why.

[white zodiac]

cross fingers there won't be any accidents

[heavy heron]

this one!

[shell dagger]

It’s raining and the windows have a bunch of condensation, i have no view

[heavy heron]

i like green joker

[cloud sinew]

justify your take

[tranquil steppe]

Too easy

[heavy heron]

i really don’t need to

besides what i just said

[orchid comet]

omg rain Open DA WINDOW

[heavy heron]

i like it

LOOLLL

[cloud sinew]

okay and i dont need to listen to what you say if you dont justify it

[autumn mortar]

but green joker forces pair slop 1000x more than bus

[orchid comet]

mime with photochad?

[heavy heron]

who said you have to listen

there’s a hundred other chatters here than you

whoops

[cloud sinew]

who said you need to justify it

whoops

[tranquil steppe]

@heavy heron we may play similarly. We can be besties

[shell dagger]

do u get midas mask and burglar at the start of every run wtf

[vale wharf]

Sorry if this seems stupid, but a Pluto bopped out of nowhere at the end of the round. Why?

[heavy heron]

you LOOLLL

[tranquil steppe]

Yes

[heavy heron]

want me to bring up the receipts

[narrow wadi]

blue seal

[pale wolf]

ok so i know that Canio is from the play pagliacci, but i dont think that should necessarily stop Pagliacci from being his own Joker

[cloud sinew]

no i didnt LOOLLL

[shell dagger]

if I got those 2 every time i could see why you prefer green

[orchid comet]

it crashed into earth

[unreal iron]

you played high card with a blue seal

[heavy heron]

ahem

[unreal iron]

you forgot

uhm

[orchid comet]

dont worry you'll be fine as long as you get a fire extinguisher

[vale wharf]

Ah, that was it!

[cloud sinew]

are you new to the concept of demands /s

[pale wolf]

That is the only thing that can directly generate planet cards besides a fool

[tranquil steppe]

Do ittttttt

[heavy heron]

very

[heavy heron]

i did

[pale wolf]

and perkeo duhhhh

[white zodiac]

they don't know the ace rtb tech

[balmy ridge]

11 minutes

[tranquil steppe]

Yayyyyy. Never let them gaslight you and pretend they’re innocent and noble

[vale wharf]

Huh, good to know

[heavy heron]

this guy gets it

[orchid comet]

$11 spectral and jumbo arcana pack do I open both 👀

[pale wolf]

and the planet tarot but ykwim

[atomic trout]

That looks creepy

[heavy heron]

spectral first

[vale wharf]

Yeahhh

[balmy ridge]

jokers incase you were curious @grizzled jetty

[cloud sinew]

telling someone to do something = them needing to do it /s
how am I the one that's explaining social exchanges

[lunar zealot]

Meet Potential Chatter!
'just wait until i get the run i want after holding R 17 times'
'don't tell me what to do you're not my mom'
'let people have fun (insert slur here)'

007
0 winstreak
0 facts synthesized and internalized
7 hundred baron runs forced (and lost)

listen to constructive criticism? ❌
'it's my opinion so deal with it' ✅

"if" and "when" but never is

[balmy ridge]

what

i play balatro i can't read that many words

[white zodiac]

im saitama

[shell dagger]

i play balatro I can only twist statistics to convince other people

[balmy ridge]

doomfist

[white zodiac]

can you rephrase that in 20 words or less

[balmy ridge]

put it in a tiktok pls

[orchid comet]

unfortunately me on white stake plasma 💔

[heavy heron]

i don’t get the holding R part

[shell dagger]

mobile player haha

[orchid comet]

it starts a new run I think

[balmy ridge]

holding r restarts the run

yeah

new run

[grizzled jetty]

WRONG SEED

[orchid comet]

yes me too

[balmy ridge]

bad wording

[heavy heron]

AHHH you got me

[orchid comet]

btw both?

[balmy ridge]

oh was it?

LOL

[orchid comet]

spectral first

then jumbo

[balmy ridge]

i forgot to type the seed

ok hold on

[lunar zealot]

My bad i put too much hatred in it 😭

[unreal iron]

this is peak

[shell dagger]

you just did an unseeded run lol

[autumn mortar]

bus is simply objectively more fun than green joker (can use purple seals, discards so you aren't forced into just scaling pair/high card)

[grizzled jetty]

idk what those are, idk the skins

[heavy heron]

i think the slur part might be a lil crazy

[balmy ridge]

square egg swash holo. ill try ur seed now

woah

[lunar zealot]

you haven't been here for long then

[balmy ridge]

u know what i mean

[grizzled jetty]

yea, sorry for shouting, caps was on

[orchid comet]

cat, cat, weird cat, still cat, ooo holo

[white zodiac]

well that depends on what you like

[heavy heron]

i respect your opinion! it seems not everybody here is capable of that, sadly

[heavy heron]

maybe

slurs over balatro is crazy

[orchid comet]

people do be like that

doo be doo be do

[balmy ridge]

@grizzled jetty dude

card sharp first pack

how did you lose this

that sounds mean

my bad

[shell dagger]

no need to b mean 😠

[white zodiac]

should've been drivers license

[heavy heron]

STOP

[white zodiac]

it'll be good in 4 antes wtf

[atomic trout]

I call it, "Life in Spain"

Where you have a Negative Smeared faced Runner getting paid to run from the Bull. Taking shortcuts. Oh. And he's ha Seed Money and Inflation. What a Chad.

[shell dagger]

hey card sharp has a 2 in 23 (not quite but shh) chance to be useless in the last few bosses

[heavy heron]

nah you really shouldn’t be taking a license until you have enhancements already

speculative license kills you so bad

[shell dagger]

only if u have like no money

[heavy heron]

which is the entire early game

[pale wolf]

it can be sort of a pseudo obelisk/ campfire

[shell dagger]

and no mult

[heavy heron]

which is.. also a common outcome early game

[balmy ridge]

IM SORY i said it THEN realised it was mean

[lunar zealot]

Card sharp is like

[cloud sinew]

balatro

[shell dagger]

if i have no money or mult im dead ante 2

jaja

[heavy heron]

card sharp on my straight flush build

mmmm tasty

[shell dagger]

wait nvm i play on the plasma deck now

[pale wolf]

say it to my fucking face

[lunar zealot]

sharp card

[white zodiac]

@tranquil steppe damn

[cloud sinew]

where do you live /j

[grizzled jetty]

no its fine. im not good in the game anyway

[pale wolf]

other side

[heavy heron]

what happened

[white zodiac]

gun range

[cloud sinew]

can we make a balatro sandwich

we both play balatro on our phones

[balmy ridge]

im curious. did you take the first ante rare skip?

[pale wolf]

of the ocean not the Earth, dingus

[white zodiac]

idk, im almost late to my meeting

[lunar zealot]

That's kinda gay

[pale wolf]

I don't even know what's on the other side of the globe from Britain

[heavy heron]

and i’m almost late to my class

[shell dagger]

Aus

[cloud sinew]

oh youre transatlantic okay

[pale wolf]

aren't I brave

[cloud sinew]

read this in a british accent

[grizzled jetty]

yes. i mostly skip the small blinds

[shell dagger]

which one

[balmy ridge]

uhhh

don't

maybe

[pale wolf]

welsh

[tame cobalt]

I hate crimson heart so much

[shell dagger]

I do love a Welsh accent

[lunar zealot]

Crimson heart more like piss and fart

[pale wolf]

I like that Rob guy on channel 4

[white zodiac]

come off it ye old chum

[lunar zealot]

Laugh

[balmy ridge]

🔥 🔥 🐴

[cloud sinew]

are you trying to get yourself killed

never refer to a Welsh, Irish, or Scottish person as British btw

[white zodiac]

im more of a Scottish or Irish

[pale wolf]

crimes

[pale wolf]

Don't care, they're on the land mass of Britain

[tame cobalt]

I hope thunk reworks ante 8 blinds to be less divisive between total nothingburger difficulty like acorn and rng bullshit like crimson heart

[balmy ridge]

i'm scottish i don't have a problem with it

[pale wolf]

they can eat their feelings however much they want

[shell dagger]

im Scottish, I do have a problem with it!

[cloud sinew]

i would enjoy if they were all semi-equally difficult

[tame cobalt]

Right

[cloud sinew]

but acorn and leaf are just like

well acorn is always* nothing

[tame cobalt]

Acorn I think should be a regular boss blind

[vale wharf]

What's the easiest way to unlock petroglyph?

[cloud sinew]

leaf is just a diversification check

[pale wolf]

acorn could totally be a regular boss blind

[cloud sinew]

plasma white stake

[shell dagger]

Photochad and glass

[white zodiac]

my scottish friend in whatsapp gc always makes fun of their landmass it's heartwarming

[heavy heron]

disagree; had to make a mandatory play against acorn

[tame cobalt]

I think it's fun as a puzzley blind but it's not exactly hard

[pale wolf]

My favorite idea for acorn is still demoting it to normal boss blind status and then making the new final version of it shuffle every hand
sure this defeats the theming of The Phoenician alphabet but Flint already sort of does that anyways right

[tame cobalt]

Just kinda makes you waste a hand or two at most to figure out where your jokers are

[vale wharf]

You say that like it's easy to set up 😭

[white zodiac]

what if it pins your jokers

[pale wolf]

worse than heart

[floral mural]

absolutely not

[white zodiac]

lol

jk

[autumn mortar]

it is pretty easy to set up relatively theyre all common

[tame cobalt]

Wouldn't this be kinda rng like crimson?

[white zodiac]

yeah making it effectively cringe

[pale wolf]

there's still a few ways of figuring out which Jokers are which, and you could keep track of a single Joker throughout the thing by doing the same click and hold technique

[cloud sinew]

its easy within 12 antes

[tame cobalt]

i guess

[lunar zealot]

Chat

Better idea

amber acorn is the blue stake rework

[white zodiac]

bruh

[cloud sinew]

how would that work

[pale wolf]

every boss blind also shuffles and flips your jokers

[lunar zealot]

Every round your jokers get acorned

[tame cobalt]

I don't mind verdant leaf as much as VV or CH

[pale wolf]

That sounds hilarious

Not fun but funny

[shell dagger]

Focus on money and tarot generation first, it’s easy to score enough on plasma deck white stake

[floral mural]

bs and bp become much worse

[lunar zealot]

Good

[white zodiac]

oh yeah

not that I much care

they're nowhere to be seen on my stat page

[pale wolf]

honestly I would be down with it, especially if you added all of the other cards that could possibly have modified backs

[floral mural]

the only time acorn is threatening is with blueprint and even then its just a functional -1 hand on 0.5 speed

[red thistle]

Belly.

[cloud sinew]

still kinda does nothing but it's just annoying now

[pale wolf]

honestly if you need to put your game speed down to figure out what's blueprint then...

[white zodiac]

attention check

[pale wolf]

well, then nothing, but you should probably learn to do it without

[cloud sinew]

exactly

[white zodiac]

honestly would make me perform better each run

[cloud sinew]

if i didnt pay attention i would just savescum

[white zodiac]

oh

[lunar zealot]

Certainly better than current blue stake /hj

[floral mural]

not blueprint. but wvery single joker in a set of 5 thats all

[vale wharf]

Ok, I will try

[cloud sinew]

because it's boring to have to pay attention to your jokers flipping for 24 rounds in a row

[floral mural]

on most runs you have one joker you just need to hold as well

[white zodiac]

meh savescum takes too long for me on mobile

[floral mural]

since whatever econ you have does not matter at acorn

[white zodiac]

I say this after a thousand hours of investment

[pale wolf]

yeah between knowing what one of the Jokers are, and that only three of the others have actual effects in one of them is a blueprint, I just need to see which one repeats, and if it doesn't then the blueprint was on the far right

[shell dagger]

I stopped savescumming entirely bc it lags my game so much after I do it

[cloud sinew]

I want thunk to patch savescumming so I don't have to have a backbone

[pale wolf]

somebody said virtual Insanity earlier and it's been stuck in my head ever since

[lunar zealot]

dancing

walking

rearranging furniture

[white zodiac]

#🕹・game-discussion message

[cloud sinew]

i want to not have to play worse in order to be taken seriously

[lunar zealot]

babs is

[white zodiac]

make an emote out of it

[lunar zealot]

shopping

[pale wolf]

wh

[lunar zealot]

i let the bird out of the cage

[lunar zealot]

[cloud sinew]

NO BIRDS IN BALATRO

THUNK PLEASE FIX

[lunar zealot]

[white zodiac]

no ford shelby in my latro

[pale wolf]

[proper turtle]

how to do you setup and utilise obelisk well?

[lunar zealot]

HOW 2 PLAY OBELISK

STEP NUMBER 1

HAVE A +MULT JOKER THAT IS UNCONDITIONAL

THAT IS TO SAY THAT IT WILL ALWAYS TRIGGER NO MATTER WHAT HAND YOU PLAY OR WHAT THING YOU DO

EXAMPLE: RIDE THE BUS

STEP NUMBER B:

[vale wharf]

Are those 4 jokers worth unlocking?

[pale wolf]

we do have proof of birds in balatro though

[vale wharf]

30 of each suit

[pale wolf]

troubadour has a feather in his cap

[lunar zealot]

HAVE A +CHIPS JOKER THAT IS UNCONDITIONAL

SAME AS STEP 1

EXAMPLE: CASTLE

STEP NUMBERO TRES

PLAY PAIRS

[pale wolf]

and I think a lot of people for some reason think abstract Joker is a chicken

[lunar zealot]

PAIRS ARE THE BEST HAND IN THE GAME AND YOU SHOULD PRIMARILY BE PLAYING THEM ANYWAY WITH THE FIRST TWO STEPS IN MIND

HOWEVER FOR OBELISK SPECIFICALLY THESE ARE DOUBLE GOOD

[white zodiac]

3 of them are

[lunar zealot]

AS OBELISK WORKS BEST IF YOU HAVE A LARGE BUFFER OF 1 HAND TYPE

PLAY A MINIMUM OF 12 PAIRS

THE RECOMMENDED IS 14

16 IF YOU WANT TO PLAY SAFE

STEP 4

[vale wharf]

Oh, they don't do the same thing as each other like the sin ones?

[lunar zealot]

PIVOT OUT OF PAIRS

[proper turtle]

well yeah, pairs are quite easy to play but so is high card

[cloud sinew]

the existence of a feather does not prove the existence of a bird, it proves the existence of feathers

[lunar zealot]

PLAY ANY HAND YOU CAN MAKE AND PRIORITIZE HARDER HANDS

[pale wolf]

no they have unique effects from each other

[lunar zealot]

GENERALLY PLAY PAIRS OVER HIGH CARDS FOR OBELISK AS YOU CAN BE LOCKED INTO PLAYING A HIGH CARD AND BE FORCED TO RESET OBELISK

AND BECAUSE PAIRS ARE JUST OUTRIGHT BETTER THAN HIGH CARD

[white zodiac]

spades - 50 chip
clubs - 7 mult
diamonds - 1 dolla
hearts -

[lunar zealot]

AND VOILA YOU HAVE A VERY VERY VERY FAST SCALING XMULT JOKER

[pale wolf]

would $2 rough gem be too broken

[lunar zealot]

Business card but for diamonds

[vale wharf]

♠️ ♥️♣️♦️
I made these balatro emojis for you all to use... for free!
Enjoy 😁

[cloud sinew]

1/2 $3 isnt, from my testing

[pale wolf]

I don't like the idea of introducing chance into it though

[vale wharf]

What did hearts do 😭

[white zodiac]

with blue stake rework maybe idk

[pale wolf]

I feel like that should stick with Bloodstone

[proper turtle]

well, thanks maybe I'll try it for once finally if I get it early game, I like that you wrote it all out in caps, made it easier to read lol

[cloud sinew]

chance based econ is fine, and means both red suits have chance based synergy

[lunar zealot]

THANK YOU MY CAPS LOCK BUTTON BROKE PLEASE HELP

[pale wolf]

You've changed my mind

because of the second part

[blissful fog]

Walmart business card+ops all 6s

[pale wolf]

but also revert Bloodstone back to 1 in 3

[cloud sinew]

the first part didnt change your mind? do you think that parking/business are problematic?

[pale wolf]

for 2x

[white zodiac]

obligatory red suit red seal joker

suggestion

[cloud sinew]

absolutely not
1/3 for 2x is the worst version of bloodstone

[lunar zealot]

Business card said something mean on twitter

[proper turtle]

of all the uncommon suits cards, I assume oynx is the best one, bloodstone is too unpredictable unless it spawns aside oops all 6

[pale wolf]

no I just liked the idea of only one of the suit Jokers having probability, but for it to be a red suit-based synergy to go along with probably whatever blackboard's counterpart will be

[cloud sinew]

arrowhead is the best

[pale wolf]

That's cooking

[blissful fog]

Without any retriggers, yes its not that reliable

[cloud sinew]

even with retriggers it's not reliable necessarily

[potent tree]

chat do i ride this bus

[cloud sinew]

youre just less likely to lowroll

[pale wolf]

uncrop the screenshot and I'll tell you

[white zodiac]

enhance more I can't see the joker

[potent tree]

i have poly mystic

ante 2

[pale wolf]

I'm not going to tell you unless you post the image

[cloud sinew]

that is not what was asked of you

[white zodiac]

no enhance

[pale wolf]

simply because I can't tell you

[cloud sinew]

just post the full screen

[potent tree]

alright, ragebait successful

[white zodiac]

😐

[cloud sinew]

a lot of context matters

kinda all of it actually

[white zodiac]

sent this twice yesterday fyi

[lunar zealot]

Meet Potential Chatter!

'just wait until i get the run i want after holding R 17 times'
'don't tell me what to do you're not my mom'
'let people have fun (insert slur here)'

007
0 winstreak
0 facts synthesized and internalized
7 hundred baron runs forced (and lost)

listen to constructive criticism? ❌
'it's my opinion so deal with it' ✅

give me liberty
give me fire
give me plasma deck white stake ante 1 perkeo or i retire

"if" and "when" but never is

[white zodiac]

hi kami

[cloud sinew]

i open the packs first

[balmy ridge]

@grizzled jetty there ya go

suboptimal setup since i was going fast but it worked

[pale wolf]

advice?

[white zodiac]

10:30 my time has come

[atomic trout]

This was dumb

[balmy ridge]

have you tried turning it off and on again?

[white zodiac]

[cloud sinew]

what is swash doing here

[blissful fog]

Very close to making the Idol online.. the blind scaling got me before fixing my deck

[cloud sinew]

you have red card rebate

[lunar zealot]

🫃 react this clown

[balmy ridge]

meanie panini kamini

[pale wolf]

its eternal

duh

[atomic trout]

Can't send letters. They got stolen

[pale wolf]

survival

[balmy ridge]

AS IT ALWAYS SHOULD BE

[cloud sinew]

was about to flame u for dying to leaf but u wouldnt even without chicot

[balmy ridge]

god swashbuckler is so frickin good

[atomic trout]

With both Egg and Gift

[cloud sinew]

swash is okay

[pale wolf]

I've died more to Bell than I have to leaf

[balmy ridge]

no no no swashbuckler is the greatest joker to ever exist ever in forever

[pale wolf]

likely because of complacency

[cloud sinew]

swashbuckler is a joker

[blissful fog]

Does gift card scale better with swash or egg better?

[balmy ridge]

so is blueprint

which isn't as good

as swash

[pale wolf]

I think gift card is better because you can get rid of the gift card and you can't get rid of the egg

[atomic trout]

Both Best together

[cloud sinew]

gift card > egg

[blissful fog]

Ahh alr

[pale wolf]

also you get more sell value from gift card but that's besides the point

[cloud sinew]

also uncommon

[pale wolf]

being able to kill gift card is the biggest boon

[balmy ridge]

egg is $3/round, giftcard is $4 assuming you have 5 joker slots

would be $5 but swashbuckler doesnt count himself

[cloud sinew]

if youre looking at temp it's $5

[balmy ridge]

he's so kind he gives all the joy to everyone else

[atomic trout]

Gift Card is best when you have multiple Jokers

[cloud sinew]

well yes

[pale wolf]

and if ur looking at consumables it's 7 or 8

[balmy ridge]

shock

[atomic trout]

Especially the Rare Cards

[cloud sinew]

no

[blissful fog]

Might try that comp if I have the opportunity to do it lol. Was only able to do swash egg in one of my runs

[cloud sinew]

gift card doesnt care about rarity

[atomic trout]

Really? 💀

[balmy ridge]

i think he means

[atomic trout]

Awww

[balmy ridge]

because rares have like $1/2 higher base sell value

i guess

[cloud sinew]

that doesnt make gift card better

that makes swash better

[balmy ridge]

yes

somehow he can get even better

[atomic trout]

But I do know that when you have a gift card, you have a swashbuckler and an egg, these three combinations are pretty good for plasma deck, white Stakes

[pliant jewel]

well that was not challenging at all

[cloud sinew]

well

sure but also not really

[pale wolf]

honestly I'm not sure I understand the theming behind gift card

[balmy ridge]

?!?!

[cloud sinew]

plasma white stake thrives on chips

[blissful fog]

Swash?

[pale wolf]

gift cards don't add value to things, they let you buy things for what would normally be money

[atomic trout]

I don't know about plasma on purple Stakes because those are too difficult

[balmy ridge]

this is the wiki trivia thing.. i guess

doesn't make a whole lot of sense

i guess

[pale wolf]

That's just describing what a gift card is

That's not even connecting it to theming

[cloud sinew]

thats not the theming thats just

what a gift card is

[balmy ridge]

laziness is represented as passive value generation

[balmy ridge]

well thats all the wiki says

really

[cloud sinew]

youre using the bad one

use balatrowiki.org not fandom

[pale wolf]

but it's saying that the gift card is the non-lazy alternative to gifting money

[grizzled jetty]

oh wow. thanks. gonna see if i can reverse engineer that jokers

[balmy ridge]

oh yeah

this is fandom wiki

[pliant jewel]

maybe in the sense that instead of giving you money directly it gives you money through the jokers' sell value but thats a very big stretch

[cloud sinew]

it's the same trivia its just about the principle

[balmy ridge]

open first shop buffoon pack, the second one, instant card sharp is a free win

[lament bronze]

fandom wiki on their way to point out the literal real life counterpart of an object as if its funny and witty trivia

[pale wolf]

hmmmmm
honestly this is a good start

[balmy ridge]

it says the exact ssame thing

[cloud sinew]

i did say that yes

[lament bronze]

and then once you actually need context it doesnt have anything

[balmy ridge]

ok sorry

[lament bronze]

bliss

[balmy ridge]

didn't see

[pale wolf]

The balatrowiki.org wiki is mostly the exact same as fandom at the moment, it's slowly been changing and improving but it began as an offshoot so everything was the same to begin with

[pliant jewel]

by the way which buffoon pack you buy doesnt matter they have the same queue

[balmy ridge]

shrimpteresting

i don't fully understand how shop queues, rare tag queues etc actually work

[pale wolf]

I'm still a little mad about this

[lament bronze]

fork but with a better ui and basically little else to change because after a while this game is kind of solved apart from a bug list

[pale wolf]

I wish they were per pack

[cloud sinew]

im not

[pale wolf]

it just doesn't make sense

[pliant jewel]

i actually picked the business card and made a shit ton of money instead

[balmy ridge]

it would make more sense that way

[pale wolf]

if you see the pack, how can the cards that are inside the pack change depending on what you do

[shell dagger]

There are quite a few bad pages still

[lament bronze]

like what new info can we get over idk chaos the clown after a year and a half of playing

[shell dagger]

the bus page is terrible

[balmy ridge]

ante 4 i got swash into egg and tons of arcanas after

big temps

[pliant jewel]

yeah but in the context of a random seed run it doesnt really matter

[cloud sinew]

i agree, i just wouldnt want it to work like that because then you can run the same seed and make an entirely preference based decision and end up being better or worse than someone else

[pale wolf]

I think there's significant improvements still to be made for a lot of things on it though, mostly organizational

[lament bronze]

yeah sorry I didnt delve into every single page because I value my time but yeah incompetence from either wiki needs to be corrected

lets see how outrageous this is...

[shell dagger]

It says green joker synergises with bus

[balmy ridge]

too many words on my screen

[shell dagger]

Like ???

[pale wolf]

I don't think the fandom wiki needs to be corrected at all

it should stay garbage

[balmy ridge]

wuuut

[wintry ice]

the fandom wiki has been abandoned pretty much

[balmy ridge]

i guess they both scale similarly but why so much flat mult

[wintry ice]

they literally just do the same thing

[pliant jewel]

i got erosion + trading card so that scaled even faster than swash + egg lmao

[wintry ice]

steel card baron synergy 🔥

[pale wolf]

c9 synergizes with golden

[lament bronze]

kill these people

NOW

[shell dagger]

it’s worse than steel card baron

[lament bronze]

jurder

shreds them into pink ribbons

[shell dagger]

They slow each other down, steel cards and baron don’t

[wintry ice]

red card hallucination synergy

[balmy ridge]

didn't see an erosion anywhere but opk

[cloud sinew]

"capable of unlocking"

[pale wolf]

my favorite synergy is dna obelisk

[pliant jewel]

then you didnt make enough money

[pliant jewel]

it helps you pivot from high card to 4oak trust

[pale wolf]

two uncommons are better than two commons? surprising

[balmy ridge]

i been watching dr spectred's speedruns they're very entertaining

[lament bronze]

with how wordsy and elitist wiki pages writing tends to be seeing spamming as an actual term feels wrong

[cloud sinew]

also just wrong, this should be "only blank vouchers will be offered...." or something along those lines

infinite amount of Blanks

[lament bronze]

especially how everything else around this is written

[shell dagger]

infinite amount

that in itself is contradictory

[balmy ridge]

thats how it works no?

i mean

wording

[cloud sinew]

no

[balmy ridge]

infinite amount implies you just get them for free i guess

[cloud sinew]

the store will not produce an infinite amount

[pale wolf]

lars is reading through this in.... 1hour now absolutely begging us to just fix it ourselves