🕹・game-discussion

[potent tree]

the ONE blind that would defeat this run and it appears. curses.

[nova junco]

grr

I got constellation from the buffoon which I guess it's fine but I have no money to get planets

[cold finch]

Bois i think we won

[potent tree]

looks like we overreacted.

[languid pecan]

atleast plant can be countered with photochad, i swear you always see eye or needle with card sharp, it gets hard countered so badly

[nova mantle]

Honestly I saw 2 poly grimbos and knew you wasn't finna lose that

[kindred jasper]

Ez

[hasty harness]

hmmmm

[manic talon]

seance for a third ankh trust

[hasty harness]

lol

[cold finch]

oomfs we set

[dark cairn]

what do yall think about chicot

personally i think hes super underrated at least for high stakes/non endless

[white zodiac]

he's very strong on both ends tbf

among the tops

[dark cairn]

boss blinds are usually what end up killing me in most of my runs so having a joker that just disables all of them permanently is insanely good imo

i.e. i got an early arrowhead and a lot of world cards so i tried pivoting toward spade flushes but then oh hey there's the goad

or photochad vs plant

could list plenty of more annoying examples

[warm kindle]

chicot sometimes feels like a wasted joker slot and other times just carries the run

like hes basicaly scoring and econ built into one in a way

since you dont lose money from the tooth or debuffs

[dark cairn]

yea

[warm kindle]

and obv disables the flint violet vessel wall and etc

[dark cairn]

also means no disabled blue seals

[nova mantle]

Id place him right in the middle of the legendary lineup, not as flashy or run-carrier as the others but very consistent

[cold finch]

Chicot does what it does well without requiring setup

[dark cairn]

who's below him?

[nova mantle]

Obv trib

[warm kindle]

triboulet is the worst legend outside of high score runs

but still kinda better photograph unless u built into jacks

[nova mantle]

I can't decide if chicot and yorick should swap spots tho, feels like it falls short on blu stake and higher but idk if it's more useful than chicot

[warm kindle]

yorick still scales really fast

unless u get him late

[nova mantle]

Obv in red deck Rick sweeps chicot

[dark cairn]

yorick is useless if you get him too late

[warm kindle]

canio is harder to scale but much more impactful when u do get a hanged man or glass cards

and u can do it in 1 round

so unless u have like merry andy then yorick wont be online for a few rounds

[cold finch]

Perkeo is infinite potential
Yorick is the setup sweeper
Triboulet is the starter strat, upgraded to max level
Chicot is the hit or miss
then you have got Canio, which will just disable Immolate , justice and hanged man when you get him

[dark cairn]

imagine playing abandoned deck gold stake, you get 2 soul cards and the legendary jokers you get are triboulet and canio

[warm kindle]

even on abandoned u can get face cards for canio

[cold finch]

the paranoid paradolia

[warm kindle]

so its not the worst if u only need 4 jokers atm

[dark cairn]

paradolia works with canio?

that sounds busted af

[warm kindle]

yep 💀

[dark cairn]

so if you have pareidolia and canio
you get immolate

instant win

[cold finch]

granted you get hanged man, justice, or immolate

yes

[dark cairn]

lmao

[warm kindle]

or trading card

sixth sense

[cold finch]

but this game has the tendancy not giving you shit when you need it

[warm kindle]

sixth sense less so then the others

since u need specifically sixes

[dark cairn]

what would yall say is your funniest high stake win

[nova mantle]

It's actually written in the code to stop spawning any card destroyer the instant you get canio

[dark cairn]

i did orange stake abandoned deck using 2 joker stencils and nothing else

[potent tree]

i just won high card with 2 grimbos

[nova junco]

a swash egg i did a while ago

[potent tree]

against VV

[cold finch]

Swegg. very swaggy build

[dark cairn]

actually i think i used that for my first gold stake win

[nova mantle]

Eternal swash egg and 2 Yorick's

[warm kindle]

we all said swash egg 😭

[dark cairn]

bro LOL

ok i thought yall meant 1 swash 1 egg

[warm kindle]

1 swash 1 egg is normal

[potent tree]

eggbuckler my beloved

[random ice]

I was playing DNDG Earlier and I realized how simple this game is compared to other roguelikes

[warm kindle]

this run was pretty fun as well

got tons of polychrome stone

[random ice]

Like, there's no "health" that carries over between fights

[dark cairn]

dndg?

[random ice]

Dungeons and Degenerate Gamblers

[warm kindle]

wish they were red seal

[nova mantle]

Eternal swash egg sweep

[dark cairn]

i wanna do a stone card build but i never know how to set it up

[nova mantle]

That js sounds like balatro

[warm kindle]

stone cards arent really advised to be built around

except maybe on plasma

[dark cairn]

mk

[random ice]

It kind of is, but it's actually sufficiently different that I'd recommend it

[cold finch]

well rip to the endless run. AC on clubs...

[random ice]

Like, it's based on Blackjack instead of Poker and it plays VERY differently

[nova mantle]

I really like stone cards when I'm running pairs and the hand level is too low to provide significant chips

[warm kindle]

shouldve skipped

[nova mantle]

I normally add 1 or 2

[warm kindle]

like skipped to the boss when it wasnt on clubs

[warm kindle]

stone cards are good but not good to build around most of the time

[upbeat viper]

how do you all use stone cards. you can't do flushes or straights or straight flushe sor the secret hands or full houses or any of that

(the only hands i will ever intentionally use)

[potent tree]

why does my michel keep expiring on the first round...

[warm kindle]

full houses are like f tier besides earlygame

if you're building into full houses two pair is just more consistent

[upbeat viper]

so you can get that awesome xMult (xMult jokers besides obelisk my beloved)

[warm kindle]

and full houses are not worth the extra deck fixing

[upbeat viper]

ok

yeah

[unreal iron]

skill issue buddy

[warm kindle]

I dont think ive ever actually got a full house build to work

[unreal iron]

just dont thunk about it

[warm kindle]

I did have one flush house build tho

[upbeat viper]

you didnt invite enough people, the house was too empty

[warm kindle]

because if ur doing full house might as well do flush house

[unreal iron]

full house might just be the worst hand in the game like period?

[warm kindle]

id say yeah

[upbeat viper]

i dont like pair very much

[unreal iron]

very hard 5 card hand compared to flushes/straights, shitty scaling, outclassed by flush house

[unreal island]

it takes ONE suit blind

[warm kindle]

maybe straight flush but it has endless application cause of seance

[unreal iron]

spoken like a true white staker

[upbeat viper]

with pride

[unreal iron]

pairs are literally the best hand in the game

[unreal island]

just bc pairs are meta doesnt mean someone can't like them

[unreal iron]

undoubtedly

[unreal island]

umm flush house

[unreal iron]

i mean look i dont like them either i find them extremely boring

[white zodiac]

yorick still gets to x2 on ante 8 btw as far as 5th slots go

[unreal iron]

but you cant just go ahead and say they suck right

[pale wolf]

no this was just me not paying attention, this was a free run

[unreal island]

4oak 🔥

i love foak

[pale wolf]

this is why you need to look at the boss blind at the start of the ante instead of when you're going into it

[unreal iron]

pair -> 4oak pivots are always bangers im gonna be real

[upbeat viper]

i have never seen anyone really use five of a kind and like it

[unreal island]

TRUEEEE

[dark cairn]

i got him on the last shop before the ante 8 boss

[upbeat viper]

oh right wrong topic

[warm kindle]

red card just too goated

[nova mantle]

Full house be so ass like I can js play two 3oaks 😭

[upbeat viper]

anyways uhh

[unreal island]

bc u just skip past to ffive

[unreal iron]

5oak isnt being used due to barely scaling any better than 4oak and also being a 5 card hand

[dark cairn]

just play 4oak or flush five

4oak has the benefit of being able to level up straight from the get go

[upbeat viper]

actually yeah now that you mention it five of a kind worse than pair

[unreal iron]

ayyyy

[warm kindle]

only time I play 5oak is with wee joker

and half the time it just ends up being flush five

[unreal iron]

its not necessarily worse i'd say its just rather outclassed?

to flush house/ffive

[pale wolf]

when you have wee it doesn't really matter what planet you play

[upbeat viper]

you either get to use a much more efficient, less specialized hand (four) or you get flush five

[white zodiac]

5oak isnt used for planet levels as much as it's used for wee and other specific non planet scaling necessities (similar to fh)

[dark cairn]

Even then if i have a hanging chad ill still play 4oak lol

[warm kindle]

yeah

I just try and not play my gold 2s if possible

[nova mantle]

Not ofc not, only stoker and maybeeee hologram have synergy with stone cards

[unreal iron]

getting anything that isnt pairs all the way is honestly just very satisfying imo

[nova mantle]

Also you don't need that many chips unless you got no chips joker

[languid pecan]

only reason to play 5oak is emergencies and/or the way higher base stats

[warm kindle]

fr

well high card is just pair lite so not that

[unreal iron]

something not so crazy like a straight run on painted deck to PERKEO flush 5???

[white zodiac]

vamp

[pale wolf]

there are lots of reasons to use stone cards

[white zodiac]

some pair builds

[upbeat viper]

actually royal flush might be the worst because its literally just straight flush but you unlock brainstorm with it

[unreal iron]

honestly a lot more of an interesting playstyle compared to pairs

[dark cairn]

All of the op hands gain +3 mult per level except straight flush and flush house
If you have wee joker chip level scaling doesnt matter
So you have no reason not to go for 4oak instead of 5oak as a scoring hand bc you can level it up sooner and they have identical mult scaling

[unreal iron]

its not the same at all

[warm kindle]

I disagree

[pale wolf]

the op hands?

[warm kindle]

pairs have more synergy

[white zodiac]

the most*

[unreal iron]

yeah but high card can work in terms of castle, uhmmm

castle...

[warm kindle]

nah just go for 5oak for more chips

[scarlet grove]

she bal on my tro till i say oops! all 6’s

[warm kindle]

on wee

[nova mantle]

My winning runs are either high card/pair slop or flush five/5oak, no in-between

[warm kindle]

I love castle

[nova mantle]

The latter are obviously very fun

[viral raft]

I LOVE PAIR BUILDSSS

[warm kindle]

mainly on checkered

[languid pecan]

i wish the super big hands got +4 scaling and that flush house and straight flush got +5 scaling

[unreal iron]

its just that good honestly

[warm kindle]

but it also looks cool

[upbeat viper]

of course, nobody will ever get me to not love flushes over all else

[rain adder]

No wonder ghost deck is probably the most played in Gold Stake

[unreal iron]

you ever got >450 chips on it because you hit 2 spade sigils owo

[autumn mortar]

eternal castle eternal grimbo meta

[unreal iron]

and found like 3 or 4 worlds

[pale wolf]

most played in Gold stake is probably yellow or blue

[warm kindle]

on checkered I got it to like 900 or something 😭

idk about non checkered

[unreal iron]

yeah but thats checkered

[viral raft]

Yellow

[languid pecan]

so flush five gets +4 scaling, maybe increase 5oak to +4 but idk, and i feel like full house deserves +3 scaling if it ever wants to matter in life

[unreal iron]

it was a non checkered run

[warm kindle]

highest is prob like 300

[autumn mortar]

what is “most played” supposed to even qualify

[upbeat viper]

I LOVE FLUSHES! I LOVE BLOODSTONE! I LOVE ARROWHEAD! I LOVE CASTLE! I LOVE ANCIENT! I LOVE CHECKERED DECK!

[unreal iron]

can we kill this guy with hammers

[white zodiac]

either c++, wr, or streaks

[unreal iron]

LOVE bloodstone???

[pale wolf]

most time spent playing I would think

[white zodiac]

idk

[unreal iron]

we dont do that here buddy

[dark cairn]

make a joker called hotel which is like a buffed spare trousers for full houses

[upbeat viper]

i married bloodstone last week

[pale wolf]

ancient joker sucks on checkered though

[unreal iron]

oh its gonna be ROUGH my guy

good luck

[hoary jay]

NOOOO

[nova mantle]

Blackboard would go lovely there ❤️‍🩹

[upbeat viper]

yeah those two are entirely separate entries

[dark cairn]

dw he has oops all 6s for marriage councelling

[unreal iron]

the forbidden 3 utility joker straight flush run with AJ:

smeared shortcut four fingers

[viral raft]

Blackboard is also top tier Xmul

[pale wolf]

so the ancient Joker is just a random entry in the middle of the other entries that are clearly meant for checkered deck

[nova mantle]

"Love bloodstone" son 😭

[warped wave]

thoughts?

[viral raft]

Looks inside

[upbeat viper]

its a xMult joker so i love it

[unreal iron]

holy buckler pivot

just sell buckler if anything

[dark cairn]

would yall like bloodstone more if it was guaranteed for 1.25x instead of 1/2 chance for 1.5x

[pale wolf]

stupid swashbuckler is dead now

[hoary jay]

You see Castle, Ancient, and Arrowhead are all good Jokers it's just Bloodstone that's the issue

[viral raft]

anything but making good builds 😭

[unreal iron]

ive proposed that idea before but its like a watered down AJ in a way

[warped wave]

I'm trying to beat my hand record this run

[pale wolf]

That would be really bad

[proper turtle]

yeah, this was it

[upbeat viper]

yeah, good is too weak for me, i only go for the GREAT flush build

[dark cairn]

AJ is harder to use though

[unreal iron]

you cant balance bloodstone in its current state

it needs a rework if anything

[nova mantle]

Castle is so good when you running red deck or got a discard voucher

[languid pecan]

this is apparently my win % for gold stake but its super scuffed because this includes when i sucked and also decks i only played once

[tranquil cargo]

it was already weak before it got nerfed

[viral raft]

that would just suck ahh, that 1.25 does nothing

[pale wolf]

Bloodstone is balanced in its current state, it just is not reliable for consistent gameplay

[viral raft]

yep

deserved for playing flushes ngl

[unreal iron]

hit that wheel!

[pale wolf]

It's like saying you should rework misprint so it's not random, because that's not consistent and you can't rely on it

Like no that's the flavor of the Joker

[hoary jay]

Bloodstone is like counting on lucky cards for scoring (cuz it never fucking hits)

[upbeat viper]

i love gambling hellyeahman
also i forgot
I LOVE THOSE +Mult FOR SUITS JOKERS ALL OF THEM

[nova mantle]

Love playing pairs and taking all the light suit cards away so blackboard procs

[upbeat viper]

you sound very unlucky

[unreal iron]

alright enough hating on bloodstone can we please hate on misprint

[tranquil cargo]

tbf misprint should be reworked, but not for that reason

[nova mantle]

Blackboard is almost always a win

[dark cairn]

it would if youre playing the hearts flushes like youre supposed to with it
also retriggers

[tranquil cargo]

it should be made to not tell you your next card

[dark cairn]

but yeah i guess

[lone halo]

fortune teller buff, also gets buffed by Spectral cards. thoughts?

[viral raft]

Exactly, it's just free 3xmult

[hoary jay]

Quite the opposite im just trying to be relatable

[languid pecan]

how would you guys buff flushes to make them worth playing

[pale wolf]

marginally useful Easter egg should stay included, just not in the collection

[potent tree]

nat negative seeing double but it's perishable...

[nova mantle]

Fake ahh fan 😭 take that off ya name

[viral raft]

Fortunme teller is already good son

[pale wolf]

temperance value

[hoary jay]

Says you

[unreal iron]

increase the scaling so it isnt the same as pair and bump it more to the 5 card hand territory
25/3 sounds decent

or 20/3 actually

[dark cairn]

they are fine as it is but if you really wanted to buff em then just give em more chip scaling and they'll be fine

[pale wolf]

purple Joker is not that good but I think I've been giving him too much shit

[viral raft]

just makes Gold stickers easier

[upbeat viper]

add 0.01 chips

[potent tree]

ante 2

[twin lantern]

make lovers target 2 and suit tarots target 4

[unreal island]

increasing chip bonus to +20 would do wonders

[viral raft]

Temp value

[dark cairn]

i say "fine as is" because certain jokers are really strong with flushes

[warped wave]

If I'm trying to get a new record best hand, do I sell egg here?

[white zodiac]

the balance of imbalance

[lone halo]

flushes are too easy to play for, +3 mult per level seems too strong

[unreal island]

oh boy if only you had another stencil

[languid pecan]

i think +20 chips for flushes would be good

[pale wolf]

yes and buy and sell the diet cola before you get the idle

[unreal iron]

+20/3 imo thats all that flushes need to be worthwhile outside of AJ, retriggers etc

[upbeat viper]

i think if you want to make flushes balanced you make them 1 x 1 so they arent peak anymore

[languid pecan]

+3 is too much

[unreal iron]

really?

[lone halo]

if i wanted to match colors id play Columns

[languid pecan]

same scaling as flush five

[nova mantle]

Free Cavendish in the shop with no pre-requirements, almost makes me feel bad for light suits 😭

[pale wolf]

peak beginner convenience

[white zodiac]

checkered/erratic

[unreal iron]

oh shit legit?

i forget flush 5 scaling

[nova mantle]

Yup

[unreal iron]

isnt that 40/3?

[potent tree]

ante 2 photochad...god help me

[languid pecan]

for mult atleast

[nova mantle]

What's yo highest lucky cat

[tranquil steppe]

Perkeo feeding campfire synergy on gold stake

[nova mantle]

Faker.

[unreal iron]

x12.75

[upbeat viper]

perkeo

[unreal iron]

one fat cat

[hoary jay]

I cant remember i have. Memory loss

[pale wolf]

maybe I'll try and get a magic deck streak when I get home

[coral egret]

X-23 🔥

[nova mantle]

Pretty good

[unreal iron]

that was a gold stake run that i then continued to get to ~47x

[nova mantle]

Fraud 😭

[white zodiac]

woah

[unreal iron]

WE LOVE MAGIC!

[languid pecan]

i wonder what a good nerf for blue seals would be, do you think just not appearing in standard packs would be good? or maybe 1/2 chance instead of guarunteed

[narrow wadi]

i know soul is a bad play here but like, what if it's tribb?

[hoary jay]

Fraud for being born with memory loss???? 😭

[pale wolf]

Trip would suck

[unreal iron]

its never trib

[pale wolf]

why do you even want it you don't have retriggers

[upbeat viper]

dr full house

[narrow wadi]

it's a funny vagabond build, tribb is just funny

[unreal iron]

flush 5 glass polychrome red seal queens 🤤🤤🤤

[viral raft]

suits in general are just a waste of time, i straight up don't care about suits unless is Seing double and maybe Flower pot

[languid pecan]

i think its good if you sell trading card

[pale wolf]

what??

[narrow wadi]

i'm only playing flush 5 cos my deck fixing was crazy

[hoary jay]

This gonna be Canio watch

[nova mantle]

Fraud regardless

[lone halo]

playing flushes = get punished by boss blinds

[narrow wadi]

if it's chicot/ yorick i kinda just lose

[tranquil steppe]

That’s 5 new gold stickers and yellow gold deck complete

[viral raft]

less "skill" = easier ways to get countered

[narrow wadi]

not rly, my mult comes from jokers not cards and chips comes from planets

[languid pecan]

why would you lose if its yorick?

[narrow wadi]

i'm on ante 8 big blind

[unreal iron]

probably no immediate xmult

[languid pecan]

whats the boss

[unreal iron]

thats why

[pale wolf]

remember that whatever legendary you get will give plus 20 to dagger

[upbeat viper]

exist = be punished by boss blinds

[narrow wadi]

trading card is like x2.5 mult rn or something

[nova mantle]

What's the one you already had gold stickered
Id guess blueprint right?

[languid pecan]

trueee

[narrow wadi]

i'm not feeding dagger anymore, the extra uncommon is better

[unreal iron]

dagger value

[tranquil steppe]

Yes. The others were orange (even though they look gold)

[unreal iron]

yummy

[viral raft]

bosses are mainly designed to counter players that play easy or not so smart builds

[upbeat viper]

thats how they work unless its serpent

[white zodiac]

off topic but dagger on painted must be some next level blue balling

[warm kindle]

just find smeared trust

[dreamy creek]

guh

[pale wolf]

doesn't even help

That much at least

[narrow wadi]

got it off a judgement on round 2, got it to +40 pretty quick so just didn't feed it after that

[tawny bough]

is the bus good cuz i keep getting it and losing lategame cuz its multi is low

[dreamy creek]

bus lowkey sucks

[viral raft]

IS PEAK

[white zodiac]

dies from 4 more boss blinds

[dreamy creek]

skip it

[unreal iron]

at what rate is it even acceptable to stop feeding the dagger

[narrow wadi]

one of the best yes

[pale wolf]

it is good, just stop resetting it

[tranquil steppe]

Ignore the bus

[warm kindle]

it does but u just get cooked by suit defbuff

[unreal iron]

like 40, 60 mult?

[dreamy creek]

ignore the bus bro it lowkey sucks

[upbeat viper]

from what ive heard it really depends

[viral raft]

never cook again

[tawny bough]

bro such a mixed croud

[pale wolf]

what the fuck is this chat right now

[lone halo]

bus on abandoned deck is fun

[pale wolf]

can we not troll newcomers please

[dreamy creek]

the peak of balatro

[languid pecan]

if you want to do the math its 2.25x if you multiply 1.5*1.5 idk if you care but it might help

[unreal iron]

insta take

[narrow wadi]

idts imo rtb is an easy s+ tier on any deck

[tranquil steppe]

I’m serious. Bus is not great

[tawny bough]

okay

[viral raft]

i just won a run with bus lol

[pale wolf]

if you're not jk then you're just wrong

[unreal iron]

any sort of scaling +mult is an insta take
green joker, supernova, rtb, pants

these 4 SPECIFICALLY

[languid pecan]

bus is one of the best jokers you could get here

[narrow wadi]

i get this but given that is getting x1.5d 2 more times idk if that effects it, i just thought about it and i'm dumb so it does not

[upbeat viper]

if it's the very start of a run and you are willing to risk resetting the mult you can try it out and it'll probably work

[dreamy creek]

bus fans after they find out 12 cards of their deck is now useless

[tranquil steppe]

So if I’m serious I’m right? YESSSSSSSSS!!!!

[viral raft]

lmao any +mult scaling is good

[nova mantle]

Nice

[north spindle]

imo snova is very significantly worse than the others listed
not like it's awful tho

[unreal iron]

bus haters being unable to play their stupid flush runs (oh god pair pivot??? whats that?)

[tranquil steppe]

Gracias

[warm kindle]

its good up till ante 8 if you're going for past ante 8 then maybe not

[white zodiac]

you have to be very stupid to intentionally reset bus

[narrow wadi]

you never need to risk resetting the mult, early in a run it's an auto pickup on any deck, it scales so easy

[languid pecan]

tbf the holographic does affect it slightly

[viral raft]

Nova is the worst of scaling mult but even with that is strong

[languid pecan]

to make it around 2.5x

[dreamy creek]

pair enjoyers after playing the same shit 2000000 times in a row

(it's peak)

[pale wolf]

hell no

[tranquil steppe]

Yellow deck has been the 2nd easiest to get gold on so far. Ghost was easiest. Black sucks

[pale wolf]

there is far worse scaling molt

[viral raft]

which?

[warm kindle]

I like nova the most since its saved so many runs by finding it late

[narrow wadi]

supernova is great, it's +1 mult per hand with no downside

[upbeat viper]

man i fucking love flush but even i can admit bus has some serious potential in almost every run you get

[nova mantle]

De nada
Los legendarios son probablemente los más difíciles, solo tengo a yorick con el sello dorado lol

[warm kindle]

like I had a run where id played like 50 flushes somehow and didnt die

[lone halo]

i struggle with bus unless i already have some sort of pair or high card enabler already

[tawny bough]

no not going past ante 8

[warm kindle]

free +50 mult

[viral raft]

my problem with nova is that you can't pivot, still strong

[pale wolf]

bootstraps, purple joker, dagger, swash

[warm kindle]

then bus is good

[languid pecan]

they all have their situations, i personally love supernova but it gets countered by boss blinds

[warped wave]

question

[unreal iron]

you literally cannot shit on bus it is a skill issue at this point if you think 12 cards are suddenly useless

remove them

[white zodiac]

worst in terms of hand scaling maybe but overall scaling it's in the upper half

[dreamy creek]

downside is you can't stall by playing random hands and scale it like green joker, you just scale it

[unreal iron]

or something

[viral raft]

Brotato for what i know you can't speak on english

[pale wolf]

I would probably put flash card below supernova as well

[warped wave]

all hearts are currently debuffed, and this is my deck

[tawny bough]

how does jokers deli loyalty card work

[warped wave]

hwlp

[white zodiac]

once every 6 hands

[unreal current]

Can anyone tell me why I have 48/49 cards? Mobile iOS, no mods or anything. The only thing I can think of is I opened a pack and save scummed, when I went back into the game it opened the pack overtop of the shop and the cards in hand didn’t go back to the deck until the end of the next round.

[willow frost]

i thought you said "a bus" and was like are you challenging my skill lmao

[upbeat viper]

spade

[dreamy creek]

yeah good luck removing them in gold stake when you're dirt broke

[north spindle]

dagger vs snova feels v close to me

[nova mantle]

Why tho

[languid pecan]

get a suit changer in hand if possible

[nova mantle]

I'm bilingual

[unreal iron]

loyalty card?
every 6 hands you play, on the 6th hand you get x4 mult

[viral raft]

purple joker??, but yeah you're right i forget thoses jokers are "scaling" just because they're so bad to scale

[languid pecan]

theres 4 of them

[tawny bough]

so its bad unless going for rlly high score?

[unreal iron]

dont be what???

[tawny bough]

sucks imo

[unreal iron]

econ is real my guy

[dreamy creek]

purple joker is so goated

[narrow wadi]

obviously i'm not saying dagger is better than supernova (it's not) but the more i use dagger the better it feels, u just don't feed it after a point when u have a good enough lineup

[pale wolf]

yeah you did something weird with exiting the game, I'm guessing it will resolve itself on the next blind

[viral raft]

who is purple joker

[dreamy creek]

rental jumpscare

[languid pecan]

dagger shouldnt be included imo

[pale wolf]

Dagger is fine, supernova is just better

[dreamy creek]

+1 mult per hand and discard left over each round

[unreal iron]

unjustifiable just stockpile interest

[white zodiac]

it requires very finicky tech to reap its x4 mult it's not consistent by design

[lone halo]

only annoying thing with dagger is remembering to move it around so it doesnt eat your good jokers

[pale wolf]

I think it's very valid to say loyalty card sucks

One of those cards that only is as good as you are

[unreal iron]

i had 1 loyalty card run on blue deck and it required me to get grabber and pair spam the shit out of the run

[viral raft]

yep, nova isw more consistent and also Dagger to scale requires another joker slot

[unreal iron]

it was pretty fun

[dreamy creek]

intresting , have you ever been forced to spend against intrest to avoid death?

[nova mantle]

Dagger absolutely sweeps supernova
Actually, both rtb and grimbo beat it

[unreal iron]

many times

[north spindle]

i mean
even if you are good at shuffling it around its still mediocre I think

[twin lantern]

it’s basically acrobat but narrow

[unreal iron]

and yet i preserved because taking bus ante 1 shop 1 saved me

[white zodiac]

minus some synergies and boss blinds that frick with it

[unreal iron]

frrr

[tawny bough]

this is super good ngl

[twin lantern]

so it needs a different effect

[dreamy creek]

rebate sucks when it lands on your one 2

[unreal iron]

best common, top 5 joker in the game arguably

[nova mantle]

Free econ ❤️‍🩹

[languid pecan]

dagger is like a slightly worse red card

[narrow wadi]

idk dagger giving u -1 joker slot to scale puts it below supernova for me, i do still find it really consistent and fun though

[upbeat viper]

mail in rebate is pretty good for the sheer fact that it gives you $5 per trigger

[dreamy creek]

wdym bro dagger is the only reason keeping chicot useful

[unreal iron]

mfs just be hating on anything at this point 💔

[dreamy creek]

+20 mult

[viral raft]

hell naw

[languid pecan]

chicot is one of the best jokers in the game

[north spindle]

its like mr bones but it doesnt die in exchange for being annoying to manage and in some cases managing it sacrifices other things or is difficult for whatever reason

[pale wolf]

dagger is like a scaling abstract joker

[upbeat viper]

i cannot stand chicot haters

[tawny bough]

i suck at using ride the bus

[dreamy creek]

chicot fans galzing their useless joker 2/3 of the game

[viral raft]

Chicot >>>>> Trib

idc

[nova mantle]

-1 joker slot is not that bad, I beat PAINTED with dagger, so technically I only had 3 available slots

[pale wolf]

remember that you can throw away up to three different face cards at once using a pair of any rank, and also throw away single phase cards with high card Aces

[languid pecan]

chicot haters against the violet vessel

[unreal iron]

do you exclusively play plasma deck unseeded naneinf runs

[dreamy creek]

" oh no i died to big blind chicot do something!"

[white zodiac]

gordon how did you get unbanned

[unreal iron]

just a question

[upbeat viper]

chicot haters when their run dies because they need immediate results

[dreamy creek]

through raw rage bait

rage bait is life

[alpine hollow]

Lmao

[tawny bough]

oo i didnt think about doing that 😭

[proper turtle]

should I replace anything with acrobat?

[languid pecan]

yes

[unreal iron]

popcorn maybe

[dreamy creek]

chc*t

[unreal iron]

its gonna die

[rancid niche]

I was playing on erratic deck and the deck had 14 kings

[alpine hollow]

What is popcorn at

[tawny bough]

but in early game i always be playing straights but it kills my buss

[viral raft]

popcorn

[proper turtle]

16

[upbeat viper]

couldnt think of anything so you had to do whatever that is

[tawny bough]

is two pair build bad?

[pale wolf]

if you just start playing pairs and high cards to scale bus then they will be winning the rounds

[alpine hollow]

Through away diamond then

[warped wave]

whats the call guys

[languid pecan]

why are you playing straights in the early game

[alpine hollow]

It’s not that good for the effort needed

[rancid niche]

Two pair scales terribly bad

[tawny bough]

😭

[white zodiac]

no
prob second best in terms of consistency

[dreamy creek]

ok here's an argument: Chicot doesn't do anything long term 66.66666% of your games

[proper turtle]

greedy?

[unreal iron]

sell idol tf

[alpine hollow]

Ye

[unreal iron]

temperance value:

[pale wolf]

Two pair is better than pairs on some decks

[unreal iron]

i love me 25$ tempereances

[warped wave]

chicot...

[unreal iron]

better than hermit

[white zodiac]

fr

[upbeat viper]

jokers dont really have to always do anything to be good

[alpine hollow]

The boss blinds are where you will die the most

[tawny bough]

i wanna try a high card build but idk

[alpine hollow]

Mainly plasma

[narrow wadi]

i took the soul cos i'm a degenerate gambler, i got bailed by vampire- i think i die if i wait and let dagger eat it

[nova mantle]

Play lower ranked straights or more simple hands like pair or double pair, make sure to either discard or throw away your fc so you always have cards you are able to play

[alpine hollow]

Don’t feed hicot to the dagger

[pale wolf]

plasma, black, painted sometimes

[rancid niche]

I'm a mercury enthusiast so I'll have to disagree

[tranquil steppe]

Yea legendaries are really hard to get gold seals on. I saw the soul on ante 7 and I had a nice trick to power up campfire almost for free, but I really wanted to make the run work with perkeo and I adjusted my strategy to get the gold

[nova mantle]

Painted

[upbeat viper]

why are these people getting rid of the peakcot

[white zodiac]

plasma

[white zodiac]

black

[rancid niche]

Pairs are much easier to build around most of the time

[tiny nexus]

Xmult shenanigans feat round 1 madness

[languid pecan]

just do vampire its more score

[white zodiac]

yeah

[nova mantle]

What about 50 dollar temperances

[pale wolf]

if you don't get any Jokers that can utilize the hand size in painted than two pair is a good solution

[alpine hollow]

They are not believers in the sheer strength of chocot

[dreamy creek]

boss blinds are avoidable, work around them instead of having a crutch to rely on

[viral raft]

ture, but Two pairs is still a great hand to play around

[languid pecan]

this

[unreal iron]

when the gift card

[narrow wadi]

did u read my message, that's what i said i was doing

[dreamy creek]

like use the extra joker slot for more econ to work around the debuffs

[alpine hollow]

Chico t is the ultimate work around in this case

[upbeat viper]

chicot haters when they get the plant

[unreal iron]

im done

[languid pecan]

i did, i was agreeing with you...

[tawny bough]

type of hand i get when i got the bus

[viral raft]

is ts ragebait?

[narrow wadi]

ah ok mb misread ur meaning lol

[alpine hollow]

Discard all the face cards

[alpine hollow]

I think so

[tawny bough]

oh yeah

[nova mantle]

When the egg goes up to recession era prices ❤️‍🩹

[white zodiac]

me when I have 3 discards

[upbeat viper]

yeah

[pale wolf]

maining a hand is dumb, you should play whatever increases your chances of victory
and on black deck that is two pairs, not pairs

[tawny bough]

mb

[rancid niche]

It scales the same as the pair, and it's harder to play, unless you get the spare trousers which is one of the awesomest jokers

[languid pecan]

yes

[pale wolf]

it does not scale the same

[dreamy creek]

have you finally caught on?

[tawny bough]

okay im actually understanding how to use bus properly

[dreamy creek]

it was rage bait from the start

bus is objectivlly good

chicot is good

[white zodiac]

5 more chips, higher base chips, more on card scoring options, etc

[dreamy creek]

mail in rebate is good

[alpine hollow]

Rage baiting people for fun is not good

[dreamy creek]

i'm just trolling yall soo effectivly

[nova mantle]

5 stickers in a single run is so goated too ❤️‍🩹 very hard even when you're past one third of the stickers

[upbeat viper]

empty victories

[dark cairn]

this might be a stupid idea, but
what if there was a russian roulette type joker that gives you a set amount of cash on each hand played but has a 1/6 chance to set money to $0

[languid pecan]

ignore it youre still feeding into it lol

[dreamy creek]

xd

[rancid niche]

I agree, I don't force a hand, pairs seem the easy route at least for the first half of the run. However, I don't play much on black deck so you might be right

[unreal iron]

20/10 ragebait legit making me seethe through the screen

[white zodiac]

Gordon is back to normal (he got a balatro server eviction notice)

[dreamy creek]

have a good day

:3

❤️

[white zodiac]

existing modded joker iirc

[upbeat viper]

you could put the same effect making actual arguments and helping people instead of being a douche lol

[unreal iron]

true that tho

[pale wolf]

The lack of scoring potential on black deck makes pairs not viable, meanwhile plasma loves the extra chips both from planet scaling and from twice the scored cards

[tawny bough]

okay wait ride the bus is so good xd

[white zodiac]

meanwhile my black c++ profile so far

[alpine hollow]

It’s interesting how underrated 3oaks are

[rancid niche]

Yep plasma loves more cards

[cosmic seal]

wabkakbak

i only use acrobat

[pale wolf]

still plenty of pears, yum

[cosmic seal]

how the fuck do u use campfire

[vale zinc]

I thought they were just lying when they said black deck was the worst deck

[rancid niche]

So basically the most consistent hands to build around lol

[vale zinc]

but i've hit a wall with the blue stake on this one

[alpine hollow]

Gold stake, I assume

Buy and sell shit heaps

[tidal anvil]

theres riff raff?

[pale wolf]

you can sell consumables for campfire 🙄

[ashen mauve]

Alright. Why do we think Ivis hits here. I’m betting it’s the parking 😂😭

[tranquil steppe]

Thank you! I was just glad I didn’t mess it up right at the end lol

[pale wolf]

if you don't want to hit the parking then you should probably sell the parking?

[white zodiac]

they're almost interchangeable

[cosmic seal]

i just reset game until i get stuntman

[languid pecan]

campfire is even better on black deck and its s tier on other decks

you can sell consumables

[twin lantern]

I’ve had tons of 3oak runs I’d say it’s very difficult to rate

[white zodiac]

why black specifically

[alpine hollow]

It’s negative though, there’s no harm jn keeping it

[rancid niche]

My most used planet card is Mercury and my second is plutonium

My third is uranus

[ashen mauve]

Yeah. But a natural negative parking? You can’t sell that! That’s not in the spirit of fun

[white zodiac]

you mean zodiac

[pale wolf]

except if you don't want invisible to hit it 😑

[cosmic seal]

extra joker slot i guess so sell more jokers

[rancid niche]

I try not to go for uranus sometimes

[white zodiac]

no lmao

[pale wolf]

did you read the message you replied to

[white zodiac]

I could but joker slots is not the main campfire furl

[alpine hollow]

Sorry, I misread Ivis

[upbeat viper]

i like black deck because more joker. i understand the perspective that less hands is kind of destructive though because that sure matters for a whole lotta runs

[nova mantle]

Saying dumb stuff and calling it ragebait aint it unc 😭 wrap it up

[white zodiac]

that's just how he is

[languid pecan]

if youre using 5 joker slots and you need all five jokers for whateve reason (eternals etc) you have an extra slot in order to buy and sell jokers to get more mult

[white zodiac]

hasn't changed for a year straight

[alpine hollow]

Imo, if you beat ante 8 you’ve won the run

[ashen mauve]

I say not in the spirit of fun as I’m probably going to save scum if it does hit the parking or crafty lol

[unreal iron]

why do i feel like stm is absolutely insane to be here

[pale wolf]

-1 hand is not just -1 hand
its -5 cards of digging power
-33% your remaining hand money
-25% your scoring potential

[alpine hollow]

Fair enough

[unreal iron]

on black deck c++ too

[white zodiac]

you underestimate how much emergency early game tools you're stuck with in the early game

[languid pecan]

i agree tho zodiac is probably better

[pale wolf]

valid me too

[white zodiac]

eternals for one

[white zodiac]

that's just a guilty pleasure

[heady narwhal]

• buy it but don't use it until you need the xmult (usually ante 6 or 7)
• only have it at about x2-3 for a6 and 7, save up money
• get it to like x14 on ante 8 and kill violet vessel with hammers

[ashen mauve]

Never punished

[nova mantle]

They could really work on doing something nicer with that much time but whatever...

[pale wolf]

hoop

[heady narwhal]

also you can buy/sell consumables to scale it if you didn't know that

[languid pecan]

true im kind of using the example as if you played a black deck run the same way you would play a normal run

[rancid niche]

Is observatory the main source of your scoring?

[languid pecan]

can we just agree that campfire is good

[charred orbit]

Devious run

[hasty harness]

fr just got a foil rocket from judgement

💀 💀 on ante 2

[pale wolf]

goated

[dark cairn]

i love rocket

[alpine hollow]

Absolute cinema

[languid pecan]

sometimes you just win a run early

[rancid niche]

Awesome

[languid pecan]

this looks like that

[hasty harness]

okay and i judgemented again and got astronomer

what is this high roll

[tidal anvil]

🔥

[white zodiac]

black warps some unknown playstyles via uranuses and acro usage spike

[tranquil oyster]

rocket feels super awkward too me... a gold joker that can't get you to 25 quickly

[nova mantle]

Buy and sell cards
With the first blind, leverage how much mult you're gonna need in that round so you don't spend too much money
Get the xmult you're comfortable with and win

[regal cobalt]

could this work or nah

[ashen mauve]

For the most part. Playing flush 5 lucky cards. I’m really digging for an Oops right now to really scale the cat as well

[languid pecan]

i forgot acrobat is a lot better on black deck

[alpine hollow]

It does if you are patient

[pale wolf]

income is important and rocket does well when it's picked up early

[unreal iron]

bait go next

take runner tho for SURE

[white zodiac]

I put it in my top 10

[pale wolf]

runner + pants is very awkward

[nova mantle]

It also becomes stronger on gs cuz of rentals

[rancid niche]

You're in ante 2, it could possibly work, you won't have the spare trousers forever

[heady narwhal]

late econ is good too. surviving on just interest is possible but it really helps to get extra rerolls and such

[cosmic seal]

fat cat

[pale wolf]

huh?????

[regal cobalt]

wait what

[autumn mortar]

rocket is just slightly different golden joker

[pale wolf]

WHY?

[rancid niche]

Red seals?

🦭

[alpine hollow]

Better in almost every way

[languid pecan]

wdym you wont have trousers forever lmao

[unreal iron]

chips are extremely important

[cosmic seal]

fat cat

[pale wolf]

WHY would you sell trousers????????????????

[unreal iron]

YES its white stake

but

its very good

[pale wolf]

im astounded

[nova mantle]

Props to you honestly, I can't even get 1 c+ yet

[heady narwhal]

baron: it could work because white stake but there's no need to

runner: hell yeah

[alpine hollow]

Runner is easier to scale

[ashen mauve]

None yet……. Have only seen 1 or 2 spectral packs so far, and standard packs have only had a red seal 6. Maybe I could have taken the 6 and tried to strength it

[heady narwhal]

runner + trousers is my favorite synergy

[pale wolf]

really?

[nova mantle]

Lucky cat spotted ❤️‍🩹

[viral raft]

Cert is worthy?

[pale wolf]

seems awkward to me

[hasty harness]

im so close

[viral raft]

Nice

[languid pecan]

good job, legendaries are nice to get out of the way, misprint too

[rancid niche]

Not right away lmao, but at some point when the deck is fixed around the baron. They probably want to pivot out of trousers at some point lol.

[ashen mauve]

The YouTuber OrangeAces has me wanting a crazy Lucky cat run rn

[rancid niche]

I didn't mean right now

[hasty harness]

for some blue seals id say so

[unreal iron]

isnt cert always worth

at least perishable, eternal etc

[viral raft]

for blue seal yeah

[heady narwhal]

i like builds that are awkward but functional. they're fun

[rancid niche]

Yes, get some seals

[unreal iron]

other seals too

[white zodiac]

I made it work on that one seed avery had trouble on in his black deck gold stake achievement

[languid pecan]

8 ball is looking

think about the 8 ball

[heady narwhal]

runner + trousers. grimbo + castle. shoot the moon

[autumn mortar]

early polychrome trousers is enough mult to win especially white stake

[pale wolf]

gosh

[languid pecan]

cmon man you gotta play into 8 ball

(the best joker)

[pale wolf]

"shoot the moon" 😭

[hasty harness]

worth ankh on supernova?

[pale wolf]

just on its own

[hasty harness]

rocket is so good tho

[alpine hollow]

8 ball has been downgraded since the rework imo

It’s not worth it

[white zodiac]

he knows

[pale wolf]

the rework? almost a year ago?

[unreal island]

how much is the hot procket

[nova mantle]

Dr spectreds wr is so goated too if you haven't watched it

[hasty harness]

its at 3 but we're also only on ante 3

[terse dock]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1415780753735680151

[unreal island]

honestly i'd try to ankh the rocket

[autumn mortar]

8 ball is so sad

[languid pecan]

i didnt know there was a rework. i liked 8 ball way after that happened

[alpine hollow]

Nah, keep the rocket

[unreal island]

try to ankh the rocket

50/50

[autumn mortar]

i meant to say sad

[unreal island]

hedge your losses

[rancid niche]

Nope, you'll need xmult other than the poly

[alpine hollow]

The one where it was blue or somrething

[ashen mauve]

Oh yeah that run was awesome

[languid pecan]

8 ball is cracked guys your problem is you think you can take 8 ball and not lean into it

[heady narwhal]

8ball sucks ass. why is it 1 in 4

that doesn't fit with the theming at all, should be 1 in 8

[white zodiac]

mm

[pale wolf]

what you do is you buy the Neptune, sell the Neptune, buy the ankh, take the free reroll, and then make a decision

[regal cobalt]

GRAHHHHHHHHH

[languid pecan]

you guys will take 8 ball play a single 8, it doesnt work and you say it sucks

[unreal island]

haha your 8++ looks inappropriate

[autumn mortar]

maybe the problem is cartomancer exists and we should delete cartomancer

[unreal iron]

1 in 6 michele hits more often than that 1 in 4 8 ball with retriggers

haha

[ashen mauve]

Oh come on game. You had to make that a queen

[rancid niche]

Oh god can people read? I said at some point they'll want to pivot out of that if they want to build around baron

[unreal iron]

strength buddy

also 3 perkeos what the fuck

[viral raft]

if only i had money...

[pale wolf]

1 in 8 to fill your consumable slots with tarots

[heady narwhal]

basically x3 mult which is nice. i'd also keep rocket for the chance of ankhing that instead

[nova mantle]

8 ball is cracked cuz I threw it to the floor when I sold it

[proper turtle]

hearts with card sharp ?

?

[unreal iron]

every single tarot as a negative

yum

[languid pecan]

i mean technically you do

[ashen mauve]

I’ve been running jacks. I mean I’m gonna take the red queen and start strengthening jacks. But that’s not the point. I wanted the game to just give me what I wanted

[regal cobalt]

i had so much fun with 8 ball on a run with dna and the family and lvl 35 four of a kind

infinite tarots

[alpine hollow]

You could get hit the road

[unreal iron]

i once pulled off a flush 5 8 ball run it was so stupid yet so effective

[alpine hollow]

If it shows up

[languid pecan]

you guys need to feed the 8 ball back into the 8 ball

[ashen mauve]

Yeah early Ankh and then the Invis hitting the perko was crazy luck

[white zodiac]

throwing your early game crutch for a nanlet endless joker is destined for destruction

[languid pecan]

i think its the easiest rank to deck fix into

[rancid niche]

If you're playing a five card hand and your hand isn't fixed enough, you won't need card sharp

[heady narwhal]

the easiest rank to deckfix into is aces

[regal cobalt]

i couldve done flush five but i got a polychrome family 2nd shop into the game

[unreal iron]

at LEAST put them close together 💔

[ashen mauve]

Yeah if I see a hit the road I’ll be taking it

[alpine hollow]

100%

[heady narwhal]

because of grim, and because facecards (especially kings) are bad

[rancid niche]

IF THEY WANT TO

[viral raft]

but also not so good to make builds around

[nova mantle]

I would feed 8 ball if it ever popped out something tbf

[viral raft]

maybe 4oak

[unreal iron]

arent jacks also technically really easy due to face card value as a whole

[alpine hollow]

Flush 5 aces are good

[unreal iron]

and 10s being accessible

[alpine hollow]

Face cards suck though

[pale wolf]

jacks are the easiest face card to make

[ashen mauve]

Fair😂 I’ll make the jokers pretty

[languid pecan]

i will say it takes some work but it pays off eventually

[white zodiac]

second easiest or ig what you should mainly speculative rank fix into are common rank jokers (8,Q)

or 9s

[pale wolf]

9999

[unreal iron]

yeah so it could be a viable rank as easy to make as aces

[pale wolf]

i be doin 9s and 2s

[unreal iron]

is what im trying to say

[heady narwhal]

9 is my favorite rank

[languid pecan]

true 9s are also easyish to deck fix into

[pale wolf]

and jacks

[white zodiac]

my third fav yeah

[regal cobalt]

should i

[unreal iron]

more of a 5 guy myself tbh

hack is so yummy

[tidal anvil]

I say yeah

[white zodiac]

im more of an 8Q guy

[nova mantle]

Do it

[ashen mauve]

Yeah I got a ton of jacks here because I found an early Death with the Perkos made deck fixing early easy

[heady narwhal]

squarepants is worse than you'd think but probably worth taking

[cosmic seal]

fat cat

[tranquil steppe]

Yea misprint was an early desperation play just to keep the rounds going. One of those “play with the cards you’re dealt” moments

[pale wolf]

aint nobody like 4s
oh a hack rank? nice
lemme replace my fib synergy with WALKIE TALKIE

[heady narwhal]

on white stake you might get away with just blue joker

[opal delta]

if this is the big blind, you should buy the square joker and look in the arcana pack and buy the voucher

[alpine hollow]

Walkie talkie is fun to play around

[unreal iron]

4s are so unbelievably bad

[languid pecan]

what do you guys think about a common or uncommon joker that does this: 7s now have a 1/5 chance to give +20 Mult and a 1/15 chance to give $20 (stacks with lucky cards)

[ashen mauve]

At what point do we think just holding the planets is better than using them? I’ve got flush 5 up to level 20

[unreal iron]

shit it doesnt even work for a straight run!!

i'd much rather have fib ranks

than 4s

[pale wolf]

why does walkie talkie feel less than half as good as fibonacci when it gives half the mult AND some chips

[white zodiac]

I wonder where this was inspired by

[cosmic seal]

10 4

[tranquil steppe]

Copy that

[north spindle]

fib has so many ranks it works with

[regal cobalt]

what rank should i lean into for a two pair deck

[languid pecan]

because fib gets like double the amount of cards to work with

[pale wolf]

trueeee

[alpine hollow]

10s or Aces

[north spindle]

its over double

[unreal iron]

whatever you usually find most of

[rancid niche]

Fibonacci early works with many ranks so you can play flushes or 4 to 8 straights and get some mult

[north spindle]

and in abandoned deck its literally 1\2 of all cards

[unreal iron]

gold seal 5 in a standard pack? death that shit and build around it

[pale wolf]

i mean a two pair with fib should be clearing ante 2

[twin lantern]

what ever ranks are sealed or editioned you found in stantard packs, copy them

[nova mantle]

4's are saved from being the worst by the existence of 7's

[alpine hollow]

Fr

[rugged pecan]

Most money I’ve ever had 😎

[white zodiac]

7s are saved by straight builds

[unreal iron]

7s got odd todd alright

theyre decent enough

4s SUUUCK

[pale wolf]

I've tried so hard to defend sevens because of them being Central to straights, but truly the fact that seeing double used to be a sevens Joker and now is not should be evidence enough that sevens are lacking something

[north spindle]

10s are like 4s but worse

[languid pecan]

you dont necessarilly have to lean into a rank either, you could just delete a couple ranks

[rancid niche]

Yes mostly

[regal cobalt]

the fuck

[alpine hollow]

~better

[languid pecan]

What

[stark karma]

my favorite rank is Kings :D

[pale wolf]

tens are closer to jacks

[nova mantle]

And that's it 😭 localfunk forgot to add something for them

[pale wolf]

and I think Jack are better than fives, not quite sure on that

[rancid niche]

7s are lacking a joker that supports them 🙁

[languid pecan]

7s need something

and aces should get a better joker than scholar

[north spindle]

10s have 6 more chips and in exchange lose hack synergy

[hasty harness]

true + i neyou gotta be trolling me bro 💀

[tranquil steppe]

Kill the pair

[pale wolf]

midas over delgrat

[hasty harness]

i didnt know if u ecto a perished joker u dont get the negative effect

r we serious rn

💀

[languid pecan]

would a common joker that makes aces held in hands give 30 chips be good\

[white zodiac]

how does it feel to be one of the worst tanks to speculatively build around in gs

[nova mantle]

Funny that EVERY rank has at least some card unique to them, 7's just got struck with being forgotten ash 😭

[alpine hollow]

You didn’t sell the cola when you got it?

[pale wolf]

Wait that's actually so interesting

I honestly didn't know that either

[hasty harness]

im trying to gold sticker it

[stark karma]

face cards are pretty powerful

[rancid niche]

It's sad I hope they add something in the update

[alpine hollow]

Fair enough then

[hasty harness]

yeah i thought since if u have a negative that perishes its still negative

[white zodiac]

not kings specifically

[rancid niche]

Omg I ordered the balatro calendar

[pale wolf]

That is true, this is a different situation where an already perished Joker obtains negative

[alpine hollow]

Imagine if the blue stake rework was -1 hand

[rancid niche]

I'll show when it arrives

[white zodiac]

and on average

[hasty harness]

that if i ecto a perished joker it would still give the spot

[stark karma]

Kings are the most powerful face card

[hasty harness]

yeah it makes since but still

😭

[upbeat viper]

what jimbo headcanons do you all have

[hasty harness]

didnt think of it like that

[north spindle]

that feels like a bug to me

[hasty harness]

literally just ecto'd nothing pretty much

[pale wolf]

I never would have either, thanks for showing me

[white zodiac]

queens*
in average runs

[north spindle]

like it should be consistent

[unreal iron]

is it because of baron? yeah keep dreaming about that naneinf run

[cosmic sun]

lol

lmao even

[hasty harness]

np but the wording does make sense tbf

it says this joker becomes debuffed

so since its after its already been debuffed

it makes since the ability doesnt work

still sucks tho lol

[pale wolf]

@cloud sinew did you know this?? the order of perishing+becoming negative matters?

[autumn mortar]

baron is ass but we don’t have to glaze shoot the moon

[white zodiac]

astronomer slept with my wife

[pale wolf]

stm is good tho

[cosmic sun]

jumpscare

[hasty harness]

i was so confused i tried buying midas mask rq to get it a gold sticker at then it said space filled 😭

[north spindle]

i have won with stm as a primary scoring source multiple times

[languid pecan]

stm has carried a couple of my gold stake runs

[cosmic seal]

where do you get merch

[nova mantle]

Zero glaze actually, stm is just that goated

[languid pecan]

baron<stm

[warm kindle]

Stm more like bottom deck all my queens

[twin lantern]

stm is a fair buildaround but i’m not willing to unless i have director’s cut

[languid pecan]

fair

[warm kindle]

Stm is at least decent early

[ashen mauve]

Mime is better than showman here right? It’s really just to fuel the money engine, not for scoring. But I’d really only be looking for copies of brainstorm and lucky cat anyway.

[dark cairn]

chat do i swap out andy for ramen

[white zodiac]

decent secondary mult source with good score timing to boot, what's not to like

[cosmic sun]

I think as long as people know the risks it's fine

[rancid niche]

Brainstorm is the unreleased version of blueprint. Brainstorm being just literally some ink on paper while blueprint being the real deal. And it makes sense with their names and how brainstorm is just a worse version of blueprint.

[warm kindle]

Baron is decent late if you have a lot of kings

[white zodiac]

she's perfect the way she is

[cosmic seal]

holy shit bro 7 discards

dude hates his deck

[dark cairn]

delayed gratification

[nova mantle]

6 hands and 7 discards?

[cloud sinew]

balatro

[upbeat viper]

Theory: Since Jimbo is forklift certified he works construction so Jimbo drew Blueprint and Brainstorm

[warm kindle]

Brainstorm can be better in some situations, like if u have a poly brainstorm copying a mult joker thats better than a poly blueprint

[white zodiac]

el Lilo

[cosmic seal]

7 discards = 35 cards, 6 hands = 30 cards = 65 cards total

[autumn mortar]

i have to hold 2000 cards in my hand with queens and gold and blue seals and that annoys me

[rancid niche]

So localthunk was thunking about a joker that copies abilities and they made brainstorm as a brainstorm idea, then they made the real deal that is blueprint

[pale wolf]

lilo lilo

[cosmic sun]

salamanca

[cosmic seal]

what happens when you have hands but no cards left

[rancid niche]

In that one situation lol. Just that one.

[pale wolf]

die

[warm kindle]

First one I like

[warm kindle]

Pretty much yeah

[dark cairn]

lose instantly

same if your hand size reaches 0/negative

[cloud sinew]

hi whats up

[rancid niche]

Fucking awesome lol

[upbeat viper]

the idea of a guy who was born and died in the 1500s in france doing mexican wrestling is really fucking funny

[pale wolf]

editions matter, and then also on acorn you dont need to know where brainstorm is

[pale wolf]

look at my ping at you

[nova mantle]

Only situation it's better ig, but any other time blueprint sweeps

[dark cairn]

anyway do i swap out andy for ramen here yes or no

[warm kindle]

Holo blueprint is also better at copying xmult jokers so it goes both ways with the editions lol

[cosmic seal]

merry andy

[warm kindle]

Xmult

I mean

[nova mantle]

He fought like a madman when they were alive tbf, wouldnt surprise me too much

[cosmic seal]

you look like you got 7 discards do you discard a lot

[rancid niche]

If you guys ever read about the real jesters and fools that inspired the legendaries you'll see why some legendaries have their abilities

[cloud sinew]

i dont understand

[dark cairn]

im not discarding at all i just have the extra discards for delgrat value

[white zodiac]

gold seals are not relevant to this specifically, blue seals outside of collecting packs you could just make do with putting trance on face cards. pairs also let you discard whatever you want so the hand size decrease isn't that detrimental. you only need like 3 queens come mid-late game

[tranquil steppe]

I had 14 hands the other day

[dark cairn]

+3 discards = +6 dollars per round

[pale wolf]

they had a perished cola, and then they got ectoplasm, but it didn't give them an extra slot

[viral raft]

this baseball is just goated

[rancid niche]

I love delayed gratification with grimbo

[nova mantle]

Chicot's backstory is so fun to read

[viral raft]

bye bye rebate

[upbeat viper]

okay now i have to look into his backstory

[rancid niche]

And perkeo, they even kept his outfit in the game I find that so awesome

[white zodiac]

I love delgrat with campfire

[pale wolf]

wut

[white zodiac]

I get to sell it

[rancid niche]

How does that work