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You can play one more pair which is nice
i mean it could be worse though
that was an old ss
high card really isnât enough?
2 pair and below is banned
Wait no high card?
hc I can do to search for another better hand
true
ok
another hc kills me though or I have to one shot on the final hand
would a straight win
Hi drunkard?
if you still have 3 hands i think youâre chilling
rentalâŠ. and on painted? maybe not
I think you have to one shot on the final hand anyways? I mean you literally are forced to play a high card right now anyways
doesn't one shot unless I pull both glass and foil red seal
I know, just surprising seeing the lad in a cheap suit
it's about what I discard for
you have blue joker so youâll have decent chips too and flat mult is taken care of via holographic so i really think full house, 4 oak both work
Can't even take him for the sell value
but you don't have discards
discarding both aces or one
throwaway hand
oh yeah you have mystic summons too
You just said you can't play a pair
narrowing down the options I think a straight is the only thing you can do
or luckily drawing into a flush with the world which I don't think wins anyways
im out of queens
ALL THE FUCKING JOKERS I WANT ARE RENTAL
here it is again
oh bro iâm throwing a full house kills you
i just realized
LOOLLL
6.4x apparently isnât as big as i thought
what
your full house will look something like
160 x 211
which is terrible
That's barely anything
fh is what I'm trying to look for with the glass 10 and ace
Not even 60k
wouldnât it make more sense to justice a face card
since you have sock
or do you mean
10 is already glass
doc would've just played 10 2pairs
waiting for foil ace triples my base mult
I know right
I can't rly choose where to put my glass is the thing
so part of me wants to throw the ace first hand
it comes down to a lot of luck
mhm
wait

you canât just play high card 10 and discard everything to the right of the 10?
Anyone want an omelet?
and look for ace/king (and pray bell is nice)?
i donât quite remember whatâs in your hand
Crack it |!
looking for the red seal ace is going to be rough
yeah I would keep more Aces in hand just in case you draw a 4oak
make them eggs!
0 discards?
okay so it really is more like
do you gamble for 4oak ace (i.e. you have to get rid of your kings) or play full house and justice a face card
either I'm risking more of the bell hitting a bad card on my second/third hand discarding 1 ace, or im lowering my probability of pulling my two desired cards I want to play
You have an open slot
im not doing 4oak ace
k
thatâs smart probably
i wouldnât discard an ace though
iâd keep both aces and kings
and just high card 10 (obviously discarding everything to the right of it too) assuming iâve understood the situation properly
itâs risky, sure, but youâve drawn too many kings and aces early to not make a risky choice
dedge
load
well now youâre kinda forced to try
maybe misprint?
and try and look?
what youâll get?
A fair usage of misprint Tech
itâs not cheating imo
ik
iâd do it, itâs just in collection
I mean I would have just played and lost the run hours ago myself
Riches that cant be taken, or wonders that make you poor
Got blueprint, is it worth to sell anything?
same LOOLLL
ainât no way iâm getting an obelisk to 6x with only 8 pairs played
wow 7 of hearts đ
oh this is tragic
ah hell nah
gg
I had a worse obby licks run on a different deck
i mean it almost makes a straight but itâd suck
8 is like the lowest threshold you can go to make obelisk work
consider selling sock
so stencil gets better
if you canât make use of
face cards
in final hand
in fact maybe sell blue too
since it barely gives chips by last hand
well fuck my life
You gotta have a bit of luck to pull those harder hands early tho
you cant play two pair or pairs
there's nothing to be done
Or else you'll run out of easy hands
tf is selling sock gonna do
Sock is negative
Sock is negative
LMAO
gg
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You know I post video clips like this and somehow people still ask me for advice
LOOLLLL
I don't get it
crazy
is that gold or steel
gold
nice
I gotta write a book about balatro poetry 
gold is shinier than steel cosmetically
honestly, think i'm boutta sell stencil for this
Lucky 6 goes hard
sure
thatâs crazy that bell killed you
Don't youll run outta scoring unless you get really lucky with yo hands
5/8 chance you win
What's 4^2 versus 3^3?
and it selected the random card on the right
The full House wouldn't have won it either
it wasn't Bell's fault
or maybe 3/8 because justice on face card
its foil so I make it through this round, then I just buy like literally any joker
pretty sure they needed the red seal
oh yeah no red seal ace
100% needed it
no c go ps
chips
needed bell to land on a face card or seal
Good luck then đ
no c go ps
would a glass face card have won the last round?
too cold here
if it was a full house it would barely
dang
I never thought about cerulean bell being a potential run killer if you're running obby and you ran outta high cards
I didn't feel like it instinctually at all
no time to set up obelisk is my guess as to why that flopped
Guess it's not so harmless anymore
it has a high enough base mult given planet levels
they didn't run out of high cards though
I was forced to cap out at 8 tbf
on obelisk ideally you should never be close to running out of high cards imo
that's a given
I hate Bloodstone
would've won on any other deck
Which means amber acorn is still the softest finisher blind 
why torture yourself w black deck
I mean black does have the most stencil potential
straights existing already makes amber the easiest finisher
not that bell is like
relevant often lol
speculative black deck looking for stencil
even with straights
Yeah you should always look yo play more complicated hands (straights, full houses, 4oak)
unrequited love
didn't wanna risk looking at the shop for an alternative tbf
obelisk actually might be the best case for full house lol
simply because it has the property of being a distinct hand type which is the lowest praise you could possibly give
fibby prob has a more frequent argument
How come Royal flush reset my straight flush stack obelisk
ig thats not quite fair bc it's also relatively easy to find compared to like. strush/4oak
which makes it "better" in the case of obelisk
Obelisk was tired that day and they wanted to reset
Can't blame em, carries too many runs
I think that's just applicable to tdl
Royal flush acts exactly the same as straight flush in every scenario except for unlocking brainstorm
straight flush obelisk is also a meme
i would be entirely unsurprised to find out it has literally never happened
Hello there grimbo
and that it shows âroyal flushâ instead of straight flush, donât forget that important part đ
it and 5oak obelisk seem the least likely
When I'm running obelisk I can't decide if I should play 3oak or full house if I do get one
next run I raw dogged 4oak and 2 fh
There should be a legendary that gives 1.05x mult to each card played in a royal flush
(flush 5 obelisk has the bugged seeds)
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FAQ:
Why is the game in another language?
I used to let twitch viewers make me switch language for channel points
How are you selecting cards so fast?
Its a mod called H...
why would this be legendary?
Only royal flush when 
it sounds like a mediocre uncommon
Because it would work like hiker!
I wouldn't be surprised if he's made attempts at it
This but it only gives 1.01 for each card
Too broken tbh
even if it worked like hiker it would be omega garbage
Oooh
royal flushes are impossible to make
iâm kinda now realizing how problematic chips can be for an obelisk build
also you need to play cards 10 times to make this do what ancient joker does
Why tho
i mean the concept is cool yeah!
do you think ancient Joker is a 2X
I find it really easy to get chips with squoker if I'm running obby
adding .05x each time
never mind I misread the original
well, most hands wonât be leveled via planets so youâll need external source of chips after obelisk is built
Also I just didn't want to make a trib 3
did it get edited or something
and my guess is that you just play a hand that has good chips in itself
once obelisk is high enough to beat boss
i mean you are a balatro player 
Oh yeah but you should always have an external source of chips regardless
i disagree
source of chips coming from planets happens
I think it would be cool for endless run to have something that could nan-inf that doesn't rely solely upon Baron
extremely frequently
And have it actually happen in the hand
whether youâre spamming pairs or playing straights, your chips likely are coming from planets
Like in the played hand?
Don't wanna lose with 11 chips times 20,000 mult
Yeah!
It's good to get a chip Joker but they are few in number
doing c++ on black deck for the profile
and half of them suck
chips are i think the reason that campfire > obelisk probably
blue joker gets literally worse throughout a round and generally only offers 50-90 chips
As far as I know the only way to nan inf with idol or trib is to get a ridiculous amount of brainstorms and blueprints
I think there are lots of reasons why campfire is better than obelisk
i see
altho with obelisk its strong enough that you can like get away with mediocre chip jokers a lot of the time
obisk needs a hyperspecific game plan in order to work out and be applicable, campfire just needs money which is how you are winning anyways
Mmm, kinda yeah but it's always nice to have a chips scaler
That's fair. There are very very few ways to get naneinf and that is intentional. The only methods are with baron or perkeo
i agree with this
probably should have said "the biggest reason"
i guess so, depends hand type
here's my other run that worked
Well I think this joker would be cool regardless, gives strushes a buff
8 on all 4 hands at bottom is crazy
cutting it super close
i value the ability for obelisk to rescue you from death
also i think "hyperspecific" undersells it the game plan just has to be "something that doesn't care abt the type of hand ur playing" pretty much
you love the number 8 huh
As a legendary it would be absolutely the worst addition to the game
8 ball lover secretly
Blue joker obviously falls off pretty quickly but bull, squoker or runner prove pretty quickly they provide a substantial boost to your score
imagine getting a soul, selling one of your Jokers for it and then getting the fucking retrigger straight flush Joker
That's an overreaction
it is not
And you never know if the arm will hit to drain your hand levels
yeah, obby licks only has one win in my history so far, campfire I think has like 6 on black for me
I fear they're right
it would feel awful as a legendary
straight flush joker sounds like it could be an uncommon
it was reasonable given deck and deck fixing atm
not because it would be strong at all but i mean. it doesn't have to be
oh my God I forgot it was Royal flushes specifically too
With the effect it has it would have to be a rare
LOOLLL
What's the minimum amount of played hands should you ideally have for your most played hand before trying to scale obelisk
uncommons get so many wacky effects i think its fine
if you already have a straight flush build working, something tells me you donât need the legendary to win
this would absolutely not be broken or even good
I think I would put it on the same tier as baron
it would only have a slight chance of being usable on checkered deck
Holy shit yeah it wouldn't be good
for winning? yeah maybe
Baron isn't either
thatâs why iâm agreeing
wha do ya think abt my balatreada
That's not the fucking point though
it could honestly be a common with how non-applicable it is to gameplay
i mean i think the rare pool already has dilution issues
i had full house at like 17
Not how commons are decided
why are you not copying cavendish
like it would be nice if wraith didn't have a chance of just pulling a complete dud
Why are you copying flash card?
idk
there are no real criteria
All commons are things that require very little synergisising to make something out of
it had like 37 mult
everything is vibes
3x is more than 2x 
Except that it's aboslutely not a common
so uncommon i guess?? either way itâd suck
Cavendish would give you 3x that
and youâd take it once every 1000 games
If you copied it
photo, for one
it would be bad as a common bc the effect is sort of complex and weird and also commons have effects you can actually use immediately
photo is a free glass on the first face card you play in a hand
it would be bad in any rarity because it's a bad idea :p
It's an extremely basic effect
like this is a showman/seance category thing to me
yeah but that one was after the yellow boss that flipped everything i think
so thats why
Then why did you say I don't know
You don't have to be so difficult about it
There are nicer ways to say that
dude just flip it back around you're on ante 10
i forgor
hiker xmult on cards without a condition actually sounds like maybe cool as a legendary?
sorta triboulet-y
theyâre passive aggressive without realizing imo; iâve had the same problem with them
Also it's ante 10
if the number was much higher than it scales by and it wasn't specifically Royal flushes
The most niche joker out of the legendary lineup is trib, and by how people see that one even when it's not THAT hard to make it work, now imagine the god damn straight flush legendary đ
But thanks for the help
probably because you didnt copy cavendish 



ill haveit in mind
but yes i agree there were nicer ways to put it
I don't feel like moderating my tone and entire way of communication just to not step on someone's digital toes
and nobody told you to
i didnât tell you to change
I lost on ante 12
You do realise that we are people, no?
you can do what you want
Do you talk this way to people irl?
It would be definitely better if it applied to all straight flushes
Yes, just like me
Don't be mean tho 
i mean theyâre certainly unenjoyable to talk to at times LOOLLL but i also wonât govern how other people wish to convey themselves, there are better things to worry about

so youâre valid for feeling hurt
Ommelet
Yeah I just wanted to make something for Royal Flushes
Adding more incentive to play straight flushes is definitely good but the effect is much too weak to be worth it and scales very slowly
the only things royal flushes directly do currently is brainstorm right?
honestly if ur interested in this: you should consider making a mod to try it for yourself
seance is already a pretty poorly designed Joker because of how inconsistent playing a strush is, and royal flushes are gonna be like 1/8th of those
Yeah discarding one
yeah
2 LEGENDARIES IS CRAZY
I'm a lucky lass
seance would make perfect sense to me if 6th sense didnât exist
otherwise, sixth is leagues above
leagues
6th sense is hard for me cuz It's clearly trying to be self-sabotaging by destroying the sixes, but card removal is also good so it just ends up being a double positive
i dont think being niche is poorly designed
seance is really more of a problem because the effect is just pretty weak
i see your perkeo was copying the humble high priestess
Sixth sense is great
Ewww fake merch
nah i doubt it but itâd be funny if it was
Merch
like i can imagine if seance gave a negative spectral
would be more exciting
still not strong
Oh no I end all my runs at ante 8
me too!
Are we all buying this
I think I was copying a hanged man
Eh, in my opinion ones gotta be a bit more tougher if you wanna be on any part of the internet, and if you wish there's always the block button
i knew you werenât actually copying high priestess, but itâs funny to imagine
I'm perfectly content with telling someone that they're being rude if they are
Even if it makes me thin skinned
i like seance more sometimes cause it can activate more than once
it really doesnât
like two sixth senses is useless
It achieves 2 things coz the other is to get one to say "damn I missed a 10 of hearts to get a royal flush"
Im okay with being perceived as rude for just stating what im thinking
HOLY SHIT ITS HAPPENING
I don't go out of my way to hurt people's feelings and so I don't feel unjustified in my words
tone is hard on the internet
also i think just the way criticism is interpreted is in general a hard thing to do esp just over text
This is anti-social behaviour
thats okay
zebby is one of the nicer ones I've seen here
I have a job and a hobby and friends
Oh ofc, sometimes people don't realize those things for themselves
i donât think most rude people are self aware of how they convey themselves, so
That's fine too â
well to be fair youâre kind of being rude now
if sometimes I seem as insufferable to others as they tend to be for me, zero sum game perhaps
Alrighty, whatâs the move now
I know
i see?
#đčă»game-discussion not life-discussion
I'm not offended because I already know it's how I am
wow guys balatro
Yep 
i certainly love that game
what's bal atro?
i do like balatro
did you guys know balatro involves cards
Guys what's y'all favorite chips joker
i thought it was an RPG
like pokemon cards?
Mines squoker
WRONG REPLY
my favorite joker is hiker
i like square
Sly joker
I was going to say that I get an absurd amount of souls
hiker + abandoned = â€ïž
wee
my favorite joker is scholar
this is a good pick
Can someone tell me what I should be going for now
more souls than talismans
I play entirely unseeded
next stake
I just like his vibe
what the hell? yes that's alot
i was on ghost deck for a while
sly is 100% the front page joker with the most usage
No, like what jokers Iâm looking for, flush 5 of heart jacks idk
kinda switching to every deck until i master gold stake on it without abusing pairs
pairs is easy way out
3oak almost as good
im trying to get myself out of the easy noob trap of flushes
do straight flushes only if you got the balls
Goated pick
I dunno guys, but I think this run might be lost
pairs is mastery of the game :p
50 chips for basically free is just neat
Next ante
Bro
those must be some big pants!!!!!!!
Next round if you want something soon
pairs is the least amount of nuanced choice making needed to win
plus sized lol
2 2oak is the hidden gem of hard decks â€ïž
those pants are pretty big
Iâm asking about joker strats and deck fixing, Iâm not a good player so I wanna know what people do in this situation
my favorite joker is madness
atp id just copy hologram w brainstorm too
more funny this way
idk
i think i might go jolly more
i think it's obvious what my favorite joker is...
i just like how cool that it gets 10x better on a higher difficulty
Oh sorry đ but like are you having a run right now or what
Or do you want to be a better playee
besides i'm only underscoring by -4800000 each hand smh
Player*
Get 25$ for interest. Always have at least 25$
Yeah, also like just for future advice, I havenât been able to know how to deck fix yet
what's your question
at the start fo the game 8 mult >> 50 chips and later on they're both pretty bad deals for a joker slot
Econ. Get money
See tarot cards and shops
I mean I did tell you what i do in that situation ;p next run
Spare trousers mentioned â€ïžâđ©č
How to spend my Econ so Iâm scaling, thatâs all Iâm asking
Big number = me happy
also it was my first gold stake so im a little bias
keep at interest caps when possible, don't roll too much in one shop (spread rerolls through the ante), block arcana and celestial packs from tarots/planets from shop, always good if you can get any econ jokers early, even if they suck
This run I just finally beat black stake after a while
Oh well, play more pairs, pairs are goated especially if you get the planet card for it
Always keep your interest maxed
Learn to get and play chips jokers they're mad underrated
Yea
^
Doc is simply the goat
yeah the Jokers that actually get better on the higher stakes are cool
campfire, madness, uuuuuuhhhh
im watching his video right now
seems like he might sort of maybe know how to get money... a little. i guess
hex (not a joker tho)
Maybe just a little
truee destruction mechanics
And ofc, playing more means you get better 
i JUST said that dude
Where
copying my flow
Oh damn I didn't see it đ
uuuuh a little better i think
im like water
rentals are sometimes nice for being super cheap scaling for it tho?
chips are valued more for jokers over the mult counterpart usually for smaller hands
rentals are an upgrade
im the water in the ocean you're uhhh
It wasn't good in the first place
dagger is fine +mult
Dagger is dagger
canio thinks hes on the team
objectivelly untrue
Should've said their channel is balatro university tho idk if it comes up if you search dr spectred 
dagger i hardly know her!! heh
Either you like it or tolerate it
.
I don't wanna be concrete đ
It's fine but it's not good
the channel title is balatro university but the account name is drspectred
its better if ur lazy and forget sometimes
Or hate it
I don't like it
ok ok you're apple juice
Tasty 
if ur xmult is eternal then you dont gotta move it around bing bang like that
anyway should i hold r?
i do like sac dagger laziness for sure
bad run yes
Copying immolate is crazy econ
why is it pink
but not the $50 temp?
hey uhh doesnt this mean P(o)S put drspectred as a search tag on that short
Well
Didn't know that lol
Anyways
OH my GOD dude these mother cluckers better stop it with these stupid fireworks its scaring me
Can't this damn train go faster I wanna get to my house goddammit
buy balatro on ur phone :p
it might be YouTube's AI that's to blame
im an android exclusive balatro player
Get some earplugs blud 
that guy is scum of the earth.
as fun as that is to blame, i cant stop ai
Brit spotted
but i can reasonably affect pirate software đ€Ź
Balatro lags sometimes
IM wearing my $600 noise cancelling headphones and i can still hear everything i hate it
not everything
just fireworks
they're like right across the street
i wish i had a gun
thats a joke
yes
i'm not in britain
I also get scared of fireworks tbf, they sometimes be felling like they fired right beside you 
cool glad i knew that somehow
FOR ME THEY ARE
fucking paul
do uhh
fireworks should be illegal to own as a civilian but that's a different conversation
balatro
are negative tarots prevented from showing in packs?
oh come off it
yes
so yes
Pirate software is so scummy tho, that's something id expect 
i had the same idea earlier
i hope i get a hack
get a negative of all the bad ones
Who gets replaced here, supernova?
at that point just copy the good one
yes
Also who gets blueprinted here
What if
it's illegal to drink more than 4 units of alcohol a day but legal to buy toys which can kill people
chigo....
yo chico
abc
in photochad snova should be doing basically nothing so yeah
<< has a fear of loud noises and several neighbours launching fireworks
Stone joker got buffed so it scales everytime a stone card is scored
and you have chicot so you don't need any sort of backup plan
just photochad to win
how much would it scale by
So who to blueprint
Damn đ good luck
hack would be game changing
with bp/photo, chad, and suskin you can probably just coast to the end
100
50 chips per stone card ofc

depends on what cards you're scoring (red seal? glass? poly?, and how many?)
suskin?
600 dollars for sound cancelling headphones they must sound so lovely
probably photo
Bock and suskin
oh

I donât know how to deck fix so my deck sucks rn thatâs what I was asking for advice on what to go for
what about a stone-exclusive vampire joker
for chips
Mine are like 40 dollars and the js make a humming sound if I turn on noise cancelling 
sounds silly
Lucky cat is the most underrated joker
free win, I just need to not get greedy
they do!! im a bit of an audophile i guess so i have 4 pairs of headphones
ohhh wait ur in endless mb
u still sell snova regardless in that situation tho lol
open buffoon
It's very good but imo Merry Andy is the most underrated
im pretty sure photo is still the thing
what if hiker was compatible with vamp
im so jealous you have c++, i'm like 500/1200 :c
Hikers so damn weird
a sixteenth of the time this ruins the run
Retriggers going crazy
I'm now felling regret I haven't got balatro on my phone this ride back home feels like eternity
cool idea too op i think
I kind of like Hiker, if I have a spare slot and excess cash I draft Hiker
It's just a net positive
hiker gets slept on
first message I see when I come in here, this is fate
i feel like troubador is too
You can even take a rental Hiker ante 1 to buff up some cards a tiny bit then sell it in the same round
I love yuri
should i press the button?
It's technically the optimal play
i want to press the big red button
ofc
if you aren't taking rental Jokers and selling them before the round ends when you can get value out of them, you're just playing wrong
no, at least sell burnt and swash smh
That sounds like a dream
I'll hopefully save up to get another pair on Christmas
I love funky Rental advantages
how DARE you tell me to sell the greatest joker ever!!!
nuh uh that's gros michel
there aren't really that many jokers that can take advantage of rental like that tho are there? i feel like its somewhat uncommon
It's so silly
No lmao
you can get value like this with most rentals, hiker just has a permanent effect technically
I want a pair of expensive ones to get the good noise cancelation do you got a recommendation 
Any joker where something happens in the round
okay I even tried to get scoring... I should've taken the Uranus in the first celestial, I took a mercury and a Venus :(
invis, diet cola, luchador
Rental Cartomancer
rental vagabond
Rental rebate
Rental Cola
Rental Luch
Rental Midas Mask
Rental Hallucination
Rental Bean
Rental rebate is like punching a wall with bare hands
The list goes on
Does nothing
Lmao it really isn't
augh so many rentals
invis is actually more expensive
If you don't make money you sell it before the round ends
oh disgusting
check out beyerdynamic, their stuff is really good and pretty affordable (relatively). i have the dt770pro and dt1990 pro mk2 from them, they both sound and feel amazing
Rebate is so strong the rental is worth it
Like, it's literally zero loss
idk maybe my threshold for "not many" is just higher
than yours
why
more than pays for itself with one discarded card lol
technically it could be a dollar cheaper
invis is net -$4 normally, rental invis is -$6 minimum
?
spoker is also a notable one
Burnt joker
oh i suppose
Rental Astronomer
compared to normal invis
There are tons of rental interactions
oh yeah and chaos
Rental Trading Card
ggs
Freeroll
i mean maybe it's that most of them are uncommon/rare?
you should just keep tcard tho
Rental Riff Raff
Rental golden joker though
honestly i think perishables are harder to deal with than rentals
Like Rental Riff Raff is sometimes just better than actual riff raff
Rental jokers with campfire đ„ đ„
rental rocket is the biggest glow up
Rental Mime
it's not a dollar cheaper if you look at the net amount, as invis costs 8 sells for 4, you lose $4
rental invis costs $1 sells for $1, you lose $6 minimum [assuming you get it to trigger]
Mime is so good
ok i don't get this one
I'll check them out!! Thanks dawg 
like yes mime is strong but how is rental relevant here
Use it on a Parking
Gold cards ig
no
Gold cards trigger at round end
Can you sell it fast enough
Forgot parking 
oh parking
very niche but i suppose it does work
Rental 8ball lmao
but if you had parking then I would also keep the rental mime
so it doesn't seem like a valid scenario
Rental seance is TECHNICALLY an optimal purchase
IN CASE IT PULLS THROUGH
Rental 6th sense
course! so if you're on a fairly tight budget i'd go for the dt770 (closed back) or dt990 (open back), each about 130-150 new but you can probably get some second hand for like 50-80 because they're a few years old by now
very noticeable on black deck
Rental DNA
Like come on, you know there are a lot of rental exploits
ok there are more of these than my intuition told me i will admit
do you want to know what my favorite rental value Joker is though
if i take hieroglyph after big blind, i go back to the small blind? or no
hallucination
Rental golden
I like rental Bean for similar reasons, it APPLIES TO PACKS TOO
Hi yall! Question can I already get nan if? Or do I keep saving money to get another blueprint?
I have retcon and only used 1 ecto
The handsize for packs increases
You always buy a rental Bean before opening the packs
i had a rental vagabond recently which helped me stay under his threshold, was pretty good
rental bean is actually awesome in this scenario yeah
Rental Hanging Chad
You should even buy a normal bean a lot of the time even if you're not going to keep it
if i take hieroglyph after beating big blind, i go back to the small blind? or no
assuming you have an open slot of course
i mean if u have an open slot
why would u not keep bean
Rental Dusk is the only Rental Retrigger card that you can't sell before the rental hits
ig if there's something else u want immediately
Pretty funky
blackboard or fist perhaps
yeah ig
still would keep it most of the time with those tho
Redboard should just be +500 chips
definitely shouldn't with blackboard unless you have lots of held in hand effects in your deck
I always love me some older flagships that go for low cuz of their age
i mean i keep it if i think i can swing it
getting a second shop round with packs that effect a ton of cards is great
Rental Golden Ticket even
the house
fair I suppose
Hallucination even without rental is js so goated too
yeah I usually wouldn't keep a rental hallucination but I would a normal one
My favorite tarot spawner if it wasn't for vagabond
Do I take cola here?
It's a pretty tough one to get consistently but you should be able to high roll with just one good xmult run
plasma was my first gold stake
I'm still trying to beat purple with it
yeah
alternatively if you luck out with wee joker it can also work
chip scaling my friend
I feel like a significant portion of people's first plasma gold wins start with stuntman
Stuntman is extremely good tbf
Is it just me or is checkered an easy deck
Yes
the chip in a bottle
stuntman is the only real chunk of chips that can carry your entire x mult pivit for the rest of the run
both
checkered is like
on the easier side probably
Hiker is good aint it
I think checkered is the easiest deck for newcomers
Plasma was my second gold stake and I can definitely remember I got stuntman on my winning run
Def didn't keep it tho, it starts wins but normally doesn't end them
*early
Balanced deck
You can literally just roll till you get hearts or spades for your first boss blind and just play flushes with that suit the rest of the run
It's all right, if you get retriggers it can be a significant portion of your scoring even during the xmults pivot
or just completely ignore it
maybe yeah
depends on what u mean exactly
like i bet its easiest for newcomers to do low stakes
gs newcomers i feel like yellow deck is probably still going to be less challenging?
we're talking about gold stake, not just winning a white steak run
i think
plasmoid
plasma
Oh
ngl hiker feels like a weak joker entirely because it requires you to redraw the exact same cards a lot of the time which isnt impossible to do consistently but is sure not usable scaling early it feels
it yells balanced at you every hand
anyone know what this setting does?
Hiker is poopy
(to me from experience)
hikers probably baller on abandoned
yeah esp with -1 discard
It's still poopy
The hardest deck and it yells at you too it's js mean đ
Way better chips sources elsewhere
Is it possible to go far with late perkeo
checkered is the most straightforward, yellow is the easiest in general
no for sure hiker is subpar and the worst chip scaler, it's like a deregulated idol
Hiker loves retrigger tho
but it has good usage still
like the thing with hiker is that it's actually insanely fast scaling if you're set up for it
It's like
EVERY scoring joker loves retriggers
i think you wanna use perkeo for econ + deckfixing and sell ante 7/8 OR when you find something better
this isnt very genuous
This is the deck
What do you mean
you arent playing each card equally throughout a run normally let alone with hiker
Hiker offers a permanent benefit for temporary use of a Joker slot. Its benefit outlives the Joker
hiker has its times its just the combo of a well thinned deck and retriggers is rare
thats all
with hiker you want to be playing the same cards every round
like if you can consistently hiker a single card and have hanging chad it's 45 chips scaling which is bonkers
imo
hiker also goes against playing pairs usually to get maximum output on average
and is susceptible to boss blunds
yeah you have alot of work to do so just continuing to copy deaths isn't a terrible idea. should be discarding to find your poly kings then copying those as much as possible
Worse wee
and has card draw variance
Sidenote ive been tryna unlock the legendaries but i keep getting the boss disable one smh
the scaling is faster than wee?
The one that de buffs your played cards in that round (can't remember it's English name)
Wee with retriggers and chad?
im daggering it
play on gs, you're guaranteed to get a non gs stickered legendary
if hiker gets to do that too it scales faster yeah
In a general case yeah hiker is worse than wee but I wouldn't call it a worse version of wee
I dont have gs yet
Not as funny as wee either
assuming you can play the same 2s consistently
Hi, Should I buy the brainstorm here?
Thats the most important part
Nah
for most jokers they dont have times theyre never the choice
I can't make lazy jokes about how big my wee is
apart from idol and seance i guess
this is why we need custom challenge deck mode
Seance should be more like runner
Wee with an all 2's deck
seance can be but it is very rare
no
Give me some permanent upgrade every time I play a strush
it would be so nice to just set up a deck with 5 2s, and check out how wee or hiker both perform throughout a run
if you can use either youre already beating ante 8 through deckfixing alone
What is this seed
Idk if I see a hiker and a wee I'm grabbing the wee
its funny that seance is that terrible but idol is still like much worse
i mean if you can get seance "cheaply" somehow it can do something esp if you have a suit tarot in hand for some reason
correct choice
unless you don't have twos
or if you have red seals
Checkered deck or a wilds build can use seance without fixing
The reward for playing the strush is just kinda mid
Most spectral cards mess with straight builds and not in a good way
checkered deck still cant do it consistently and wilds is deckfixing
and i mean this is compared to idol which is just like. terrible and basically only usable as a desperation move with hanging chad
Thunk wanted to rework idol
Isnt idol good with a super fixed deck
That's the issue
seance is just a lot of effort for low low reward
it needs more deckfixing than anything else in the game by a rediculous margin
It's only usueable if you have an entirely fixed deck
idol is needing 10 antes to be relied on deckfixing wise and you win in 8
Make it a scaling xmult card for each time you play a strush
the 2 ways to fix idol are:
make it just [rank] instead of [rank+suit]
or make it reroll after every hand
Or make it a different requirement besides playing a strush
1 in number of ranks in your deck chance of doubling per card
I do like the flavor of using a difficult hand to summon a spectral card though
dude this keeps happening. not seeded
maybe it should be two
lol
A sandbox mode would work with this and many more things
Id love to get a sandbox mode
Hmmm
any Joker based on straight flush is going to suck
Maybe it could summon a specific spectral card?
I stand by an xmult scaling seance for playing strush being cool
Maybe it opens a 2-pack and you pick one to enter your hand/use
if it was a big scaling step maybe that could work
what if seance was like drivers license where you need to activate it by playing like 2 strushes or something and then it gives a spectral each round or something
Yeah, like runner but beefier
x1 mult per strush played sounds like a meme
Any joker based on such complicated hands is going to suck, like if we got a flush house joker or smth
That's a great idea actually
that sounds awful
x6 mult on five flush
ohoho
I really like that actually
Same
I think I won
Playing 1 strush isn't too hard, it's fun banking some tarots to do it
nah
im not convinced of the number/effect but the general concept of "play x strushes to enable y effect" sounds worthwhile
why didnt you do that last run
Seance rewarding that would be really fun
guys i think i can win :p
cause I didn't have those jokers
please no violet vessle
Make it like campfire
I'm pouring violet on the vessel it'll be with you soon 
if u mean resets each ante
that makes it not really like d.l. at all anymore
like the whole point is "hard thing to do -> payoff"
okay
campfire is "easy thing to do -> big payoff but resets"
would've been a free win regardless
Clearly you should take that rental joker
unironically yes
it gives me some degree of scoring security if I somehow don't win with bus alone
and if I win with bus I sell the rental before the end of the round
Seems weird the only joker with this mechanic or similar is license
I'd be concerned if you fucked up 1st ante with ride the bus and blue deck lmao
I got another one but can't take it, sad
Yeah, but hard thing to do-> get spectrals for free forever after is the current suggestion
Praying for you to get an ecto
yeah that's a big payoff
if it reset it would just be like current seance but worse
how good is square joker
And antimatter, I have blank
if you're not finding the right Jokers, it's simply an issue of not enough income đ€Ș
2 strushes are an immense feat I don't think it's that excessive
Alternative:
Buff the payoff in some way, randomize the hand that's required every time it's triggered, weighted for harder hands
I might as well sell luchador if I have chicot right?
i got a shop 1 sqaure joker and i dont usually play it but idk ive never really tried
other than for sticker smuggling pretty much yeah
And it's 1 card per round you could very well get familiar in a rtb run lmao
o7
sticker smuggling?
man this shop has me stumped on what I wanna do
winning with jokers on gold stake puts a gold sticker on them
sticker smuggling refering to taking a joker that isn't helping you to the win screen
Good luckđ€
dagger best joker trust guys
also as a side note, gotta love how this challenge is literally just here have one of the beset +mult scaling jokers from the start, don't fuck up
I've never heard this phrase before
I've called them tag along Jokers in the past
Can you place the duo beside dagger this arrangement gives me anxiety for your acrobat 
i did i just had the shuffle boss lol
thats why it was like that
Oh lmao
just searched this discord and apparently the term has been used once before in 2024?
for some reason i thought it was a thing lol
like the term for it
Seance is fine the way it is
obviously the practice is well known
I started playing balatro in 2025 so before my time
Attention span challenge 
I love the 2 jokers that are just attention span tests (rtb and dagger)
can certificate give editions?
Why's balatrodle not updating.
this is a difficult decision
No
I do hate the boss that test your attention (psychic)
The only way I would consider fixing it would be if mousing over it told you 2-3 of the next 5 cards you will draw
(I.e. 13S [blank] [blank] 7H 5D)
???
Nay, just seals
probably depends on a combination of a) your deck and b) have you seen the spade boss yet
