🕹・game-discussion

[royal bobcat]

Nope

[night turret]

In green chip and below I would say it’s very good as long as you don’t go skipping every bind

[royal bobcat]

Pretty much last resort typa joker

[night turret]

But after green chip, I don’t see myself picking it up

[royal bobcat]

Having to skip 2 antes for 2x is abysmally bad

[neon hollow]

The x0.25 mult is really not worth missIng so many shops

[night turret]

Exactly

[night turret]

Not even 2x, you would be getting .5x

[royal bobcat]

I'd pick it up if I skipped one blind for like an investment tag early

I said antes not blinds

[neon hollow]

I usually just grab it if I have a free slot available

[night turret]

Oh sorry

But yeah it’s only good in lower chips

[royal bobcat]

Like in those 4 shops you can definitely find something more than just a 2x

[night turret]

Anything higher then green chip and I don’t see myself picking it up

[royal bobcat]

• money + scaling other jokers

[north schooner]

whew... good thing that wasn't VV

[night turret]

The sun is just there to watch as the score burns alive

[vale wharf]

Last resort? It seems horrible unless you pick it early

[royal bobcat]

Well if you really never find xmult

Sometimes you gotta settle for what you get

[vale wharf]

I find the +mults more reliable at the start

[night turret]

I used to use it regionally, but after playing for a while. I only use it on decks I haven’t bested yet

[vale wharf]

Is my lineup good rn?

[north schooner]

Swap chaos for Fibonacci, skip to the end and win

[vale wharf]

What 😭

[vale wharf]

Which 2 jokers are you missing?

[north schooner]

Don't rely on misprint for + mult, so get fib.

[shell current]

It’s good for doing the unlock where you win in 12 rounds

[north schooner]

Might be able to pull that off here, right?

[shell current]

With full skips yea

[vale wharf]

Wait whaaaaaaaaaat
I wasn't even aware of this

I got blueprint in shop, but didn6have money 😭

[north schooner]

If you skip every small and big boss blind your double throwbacks will be, uh... x4 each, or x16 together, which is easily enough to win with the chips and flat mult you have

[vale wharf]

I guess, let me try

[north schooner]

This was basically the one time you'd want to take throwback 🙂

[vale wharf]

I got Fibonacci in shop again, please guide me 🙏

[north schooner]

I still need gold stickers on sixth sense and perkeo

[vale wharf]

I want to do the 12 wins unlock

12 rounds*

[north schooner]

Did you skip all the small and large blinds in ante 3 and 4?

I think it might not be possible now

[vale wharf]

Why not?

I'm not sure if I skipped all

[floral mural]

it is impossible here

ante 4 to 8s boss blind is 5 rounds

and 8 already passed

[vale wharf]

Why 😭

Oh god

Ok 😢

[obsidian patrol]

Only for genius

[vale wharf]

Is K,A,2,3,4 considered a straight?

[vale wharf]

Or really lucky

[obsidian patrol]

No

[vale wharf]

This is too easy omg

Throwbacks are on x4 each and hologram is x2

[floral mural]

wraparound straights dont exist

[lunar zealot]

straights are easy enough to make, listen to nobody on reddit or youtube

bar drspectred and roffle on the occasion

[vale wharf]

Gotta be my easiest run so far

[supple veldt]

square joker seems super weak

[lunar zealot]

it's really not

if used in its ideal circumstances

i.e gold stake pair runs

[obsidian patrol]

Its not

Its a good source of chips

[lunar zealot]

It looks weak but consider mercury is 15 chips per mercury and square is 16 chips per round

and it's easier to play hands than find planets

and and scaling +chips joker are few and far between

allowing you to play largely hand agnostic come time to pivot to straights should you find fpot or order; xoak should you be running cloud 9, obelisk for general obelisk shenanigans

[orchid comet]

hello

square joker is confusing

I haven't used it but I only saw hate on it before

[vocal rose]

it isn’t

play four cards and you get 4 chips

[orchid comet]

but now ur all supporting it

[vocal rose]

people who hate on it lose more runs

[terse gyro]

i ended up unlocking stone joker 180 hours into the game

[vale wharf]

My biggest hand yet!

[steep depot]

chat

[royal bobcat]

more

[steep depot]

yes

[left elm]

THE Greatest natural negative ever 🔥

[royal bobcat]

negative luchador is actually really good

just keep it for temperance until theres one boss that kills you

[steep depot]

i was smearing too hard i hope i dont die here

[royal bobcat]

put the 7 first

[steep depot]

no its on spade

[royal bobcat]

oh right

you don't have uhh whats it called

high contrast cards

so i thought your clubs were spades

[steep depot]

sadge

i died :C

shouldve killed chad

[orchid comet]

greedddd

[steep depot]

wouldve been my 3rd gold stake :C

[mortal nimbus]

<@&1133519078540185692>

[limpid sigil]

😱

[trail sierra]

Sneaky bastard

Had a hidden pfp

[left elm]

Luchador appearing right before the plant

[atomic lagoon]

sound warning

[naive jolt]

Frick you

[hollow temple]

I haven’t even played a flush 5 yet

[naive jolt]

I was so close beating gold stake first try

[naive jolt]

Proof or fake

[orchid comet]

ur at ante 19 u prob forgot

[hollow temple]

Yea you right I did

[vital oracle]

Hello all I have a question about what i should sell for brainstorm (if anything) as well as the order of my jokers

[naive jolt]

Oh negative showman

[vital oracle]

they are not ordered correctly in the screenshot I know I just dont want to torch the run by replacing the wrong joker with brainstorm

[naive jolt]

Sell one idol for brainstorm

Brainstorm is an idol but better, because it can also be a rebate

[vital oracle]

ahhhh you are so right

tysm

[quartz ember]

balance your retriggers and mults, depends on what cards you play

[vital oracle]

its poly glass red seal

so I would want more socks right?

[naive jolt]

No

You'd want more idol

[quartz ember]

you want balanced with one extra sock if you have uneven number

[shell current]

Holo idol probably

[quartz ember]

but currently you have an even number with 3 socks and 4 idols

[naive jolt]

If you have one extra, the retrigger or the xmult doesn't matter

And you want it balanced

Show your deck

[quartz ember]

does* matter

with polychrome

[delicate tide]

prioritize idol

cause red seal counts as a sock

[naive jolt]

Poly is a half instance

[quartz ember]

exactly

[naive jolt]

Basically a poly count as .5 value

[shell current]

Poly is slightly more than 1/2

[naive jolt]

Base trigger = 1 trigger
Red seal = 1 trigger
2 sock = 2 trigger
4 total trigger
2 idol = 2 instance
Poly = 0.5 instance
2.5 total instance
So you want to put your 2 brainstorm on idol

[quartz ember]

so if you have 4 triggers 3 2xmult vs 3 triggers 4 2xmult, all that changes is that you are triggering poly 4 vs 3 times

[vital oracle]

I have 12 Lucky and 21 glass all poly red seal

[quartz ember]

I should say, 5 and 5, since thats the situation here

[naive jolt]

Ah wait if you have glass it change

Base trigger = 1 trigger
Red seal = 1 trigger
2 sock = 2 trigger
4 total trigger
2 idol = 2 instance
Glass = 1 instance
Poly = 0.5 instance
3.5 total instance
So you want to put your 2 brainstorm on idol for 5.5 instance
Instead of putting it on sock for 6 total trigger
Because 4x5.5 > 6x3.5 (22>21)

[quartz ember]

you first play luckies with all copies on sock and then change 2 to idol and play glass

[naive jolt]

It doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things
Poly is yes actually 0,5625 instance but eh

[naive jolt]

If you must plat multiple hands / wants econ, yes

Put brainstorm on rebate to make econ

Then all on sock with lucky for money
Or all on idol for score

And then on idol for glass

[vital oracle]

thanks boys

[orchid comet]

that is so beautiful

which ante

[quartz ember]

oh yea forgot that step

[vital oracle]

ante 19

small blind

im flying higher than ever before

[sly hornet]

what do i switch

[shell current]

Photo

[sly hornet]

not the playing card one? it’s not negative

[shell current]

Oh wait probably HOLOGRAM actually

[quartz ember]

oh yea lol

[sly hornet]

BET

[shell current]

You had it next to all of your negatives and I am soooo eepy

[quartz ember]

whenever I see negatives I just immediately assume everything to the right is also negative

[sly hornet]

fairs fairs

thanks

[shell current]

But photo prob goes next, in favor of a rebate if you are still scoring

[neat ore]

I took a negative skip

[pure oasis]

oops, wrong picture

[neat ore]

I got a negative baron mime

[pure oasis]

hard choises here: S & B is offerred, but midas hasn't changed all the cards yet (face cards are changed and planning to remove most of small ones eventually). Also there is Business Card offered in the Shop. Change the Midas here? Faceless or Business card?

[neat ore]

Do a shoot the moon build

[shell current]

It’s always sock because golden ticket rules in this position

[quartz ember]

yea midas goes

[shell current]

Send deck pic

[neat ore]

If I were em

[neat ore]

Id pivot into a speculative oops build

[sly hornet]

can you blue print blue print?

[pure oasis]

if it was for me

[quartz ember]

yes

[sly hornet]

i got another one but i don’t have another hanging card so i was wondering if it would just transfer from one blueprint to the other

[shell current]

Business card on 2-pair is better ev if you don’t win in one hand

[quartz ember]

thats exactly what you wanna do

[shell current]

Otherwise prob hold faceless until ticket

[sly hornet]

for photomath?

[quartz ember]

yea

[sly hornet]

ok thanks

[quartz ember]

and then next one for chad

[sly hornet]

all the rest are negatives

[quartz ember]

and hoping you find antimatter and ectoplasm

but your main goal currently is fixing your deck

[pure oasis]

well have to make some calculations because i have the Scary Face which gives +30 chips to every card now

[neat ore]

I like to do a speculative ice cream build

[shell current]

Red seal glass sock dusk and idol

[pure oasis]

at this moment KQKQ scores 29,241 and blind is 20k so gotta play smaller ones first

[eager lynx]

what do i do..

initial buffoon pack

[pure oasis]

this composition wins in two hands right now

with 2 pairs

[steep depot]

what do i gold stake next i did blue plasma and ghost

[manic talon]

black

[steep depot]

bet

[manic talon]

just get it over with so you can have fun

[heady narwhal]

a tier joker vs d tier joker

[vale wharf]

Not like this, Jimbo, not like this 😭🙏
PLEASE

[nova junco]

I cleared black deck gold stake finally

[vale wharf]

Is black deck the hardest deck?

[nova junco]

Yea

[vale wharf]

I feel like +1 joker is really good

[nova junco]

Yes but -1 hand means -1 dollar every round

[heady narwhal]

-1 hand is really bad

[nova junco]

And in the first antes it means you might not even get to use the extra joker slot

[floral mural]

-1 hand is like even worse than an extra joker slot js good

a lategame benefit for a massice early downside

[heady narwhal]

i mean if there was a joker that gave +1 hand every round i'd take it all the time

[mortal nimbus]

+1 Joker slot is good, with just 1 small caveat.

This doesn't come into play until halfway through a run

[heady narwhal]

it's hardly even a lategame benefit i think

[nova junco]

It's a huge benefit

[vale wharf]

What if...
-3 hands, +3 joker slots

[mortal nimbus]

-1 hand makes getting to the point of using a 6th joker even more difficult

[nova junco]

But still if you don't reach the point where you can buy 6 good jokers it's pointless

[nova junco]

Burglar in the buffoon skip trust

[vale wharf]

I'm not that experienced, I don't get this 🙏

[heady narwhal]

i mean if your scaling jokers are 25% less effective then you're basically getting 4.5 joker slots for the price of 6 even in the lategame i think

[nova junco]

Not ALL scaling jokers scale with hands

This run I just won had campfire, constellation and Jupiter levels

[heady narwhal]

they either scale with hands or they scale with money

you don't have either of those on black deck

[nova junco]

I mean you can get more money later if you survive

I had plenty of money by the end of the run

[floral mural]

thats every deck if you get excess money tho

[mortal nimbus]

it's much harder to get to the point where you have more money on Black Deck, since you often need to spend more agressively early to guarantee scoring

[vale wharf]

Balatro pop quiz:
What's the highest score you can get with your first hand on red deck white stake without skipping?

[floral mural]

the issue with black deck is like purely early game being so much more rough

[mortal nimbus]

and with less overall money due to less hands, this is even more difficult

[nova junco]

I think royal flush

Which is uhh

[quartz ember]

1208?

[floral mural]

just a royal flush yeah

[heady narwhal]

i mean yeah but also a lot of my black deck runs die in ante 6 or 8 despite lucky early games

[floral mural]

on erratic you could get a flush five or flush house idk which is stronger at base

[nova junco]

100+11+10+10+10+10 X 8

Which is uhhhh

[floral mural]

no doubt the same reason. less scoring opportunities and less hands to act as extra discards

[nova junco]

Yes 1208

[vale wharf]

Might be stupid question, but does pack covers tell you what kind of jokers are inside?

[floral mural]

black deck isnt fun to me the challange isnt fun

[mortal nimbus]

nope

[heady narwhal]

no

[vale wharf]

Ok, thanks

[vale wharf]

I think just having a 6th slot makes it fun, regardless of it being a challenge

[nova junco]

Try a run see for yourself

[heady narwhal]

black deck is way more fun than plasma and erratic and nebula but it's usually not what i'm looking for when i boot up balatro

[nova junco]

Black deck is not hated by everyone it's just hard

[vale wharf]

I did one run... I lost 😔

[orchid comet]

I underestimated vamp

anyway

[mortal nimbus]

It's the only deck I actively seek out for gold stake runs at this point

[vale wharf]

I like the magic deck

[orchid comet]

I wanna grab matador

next boss is the spades one

[heady narwhal]

zodiac is my favorite deck

[orchid comet]

2 hands of two pairs cleared first round which was 30k or something

[nova junco]

I want to disappear because I did black deck gold stake but on my phone instead on my main file on pc

[orchid comet]

😭

[vale wharf]

What a great start, thanks Jimbo 😍

[heady narwhal]

i feel like rebate's worth more in the long run unless you want to be replacing it in ante 7ish anyways

[orchid comet]

damn

[heady narwhal]

squoker!!!

[nova junco]

What a good way to kill the econ lmao

[orchid comet]

I might not since I know I'll clear ante 8

I'm fine with staying as is

matador might be fun

[vale wharf]

And those 2 double tags are going to be my downfalls. I always lose my runs when I get them

[heady narwhal]

wait yeah why did you take two double tags

[orchid comet]

huh why do u have two double tags

lmfao

[vale wharf]

Hmm? I think it's better to buy him

[orchid comet]

it is

especially early on

[heady narwhal]

i'd also take squoker my beloved

[orchid comet]

when u don't find much xmult

[vale wharf]

Gambling 🔥
I can get 3 negative jokers if I'm lucky 🤑

[rustic aspen]

one stake left for black deck now

[orchid comet]

😭

[vale wharf]

3 negative blueprints

[heady narwhal]

why would you use the doubles on like the third worst tag in the game (exaggeration)

[vale wharf]

With polychrome

[orchid comet]

and holographic

[heady narwhal]

you cab't have two editions on a joker

[orchid comet]

u can have four though

[orchid comet]

AND FOIL

[orchid comet]

my square joker is pretty low I think

I've been getting max 2 two pairs per round

yeah 16 chips on square

I probably replace that

[quartz ember]

play high card first to grow square then

[orchid comet]

alright

[vale wharf]

What if balatro was 3D and you could put 3 blueprints in a triangle, so they could copy each other infinitely?

[quartz ember]

tho at ante 8 maybe you are not gonna get it much above a 100

[orchid comet]

all of them collectively doing nothing

[orchid comet]

yeah I do have 2 foil jokers

isn't it better to replace

[vital oracle]

thanks for the help earlier lads new highscore

[vale wharf]

Who is the best balala YouTuber to watch?

[vale wharf]

Omg

[vital oracle]

nevagtive showman is so fun

[vale wharf]

3 double tags, what am I doing 😭

[shell current]

$300 from handy tags lmao

[vale wharf]

I threw the run 🤕

[obsidian patrol]

i like dr spectre

[vale wharf]

I'll check him out!

[latent egret]

if you want to get "good" at balatro its dr spectered 100%

[lyric wave]

managed to gold sticker yorick, brainstorm, wily joker, rough gem (checkered deck main here) and the idol

I am winning so hard rn

[vale wharf]

Does sticker matter?

[lyric wave]

yes

to me it does

it doesn't actually do anything, I just want to get C++ lol

[shell current]

Congratulations on finally getting to use the only good red suit

[graceful oasis]

from my naughty behavior I know that
1.) Hex will go onto Blue Joker
2.) Wraith will give me a Trio (Assuming I sell Tb)
3.) Ankh will Duplicate Pants (Assuming I sell tb)

Maybe I go for option three? Idk if any are worth I hate plasma so much

[obsidian patrol]

Ankh will duplicate either blue joker or bp

[floral mural]

they know this info from save scumminf

this seems like a skip since you unfortunately skipped a lot of rounds already so throwback has good xmult

and double pants isnt better than the xmult

also put pants before the blueprints and copy your throwback

[obsidian patrol]

Just skip

[obsidian patrol]

Ah

I cant read

[floral mural]

you have enough xmult potential to do the pivot

[orchid comet]

ankh with 2 blueprints would be crazy

crazy as in a crazy decision

[orchid comet]

why not hex

[orchid comet]

what's that

[royal bobcat]

trio could be quite good if you play full houses

no?

idk how big pants are

[graceful oasis]

pants were at like 30 and tb at 1.75 at the time

it was the definitive moment where double bp on tb vs double bp on blue was giving the same score within a thousand

so i forced two skips to be a cool guy so now its better to go pants / blue / bp / bp / tb

[royal bobcat]

because from where i stand

right

you can get trio

and put two blueprints on it

for x27

plasma is going to LOVE it

[graceful oasis]

i think trio would have been better if i didnt already have levels put into uranus and was on ante 5

[royal bobcat]

the question is can you reliably play 3oak or full house

[royal bobcat]

with pants it's not as necessary

[graceful oasis]

it was an untouched deck beforehand

[royal bobcat]

and since you're on plasma you don't care about chips if you go mult

[graceful oasis]

the kicker is i also had a poly brainstorm but it had a timer

[jovial mica]

oh it was a perishable..

[graceful oasis]

omg i had to full send into throwback but we did it

go team

pants ended at 60 and tb at x3

[jovial mica]

jesus christ

[ocean yoke]

one hell of an intresting run

[graceful oasis]

card sharp has broken my heart so many more times than i feel like hes saved it

[obsidian patrol]

Doing an action to see what happens then exiting to menu and re-entering

so it never happened but you know what it does

[orchid comet]

that's possible?

I didn't think it'd be in a game like balatro

[royal bobcat]

cloud nine core

[vale wharf]

I just got the most GODLY mega spectral pack

[ocean yoke]

"Cloud 9 is useless"

💔

[royal bobcat]

who says that

[ocean yoke]

I just haven't seen much people use it

[obsidian patrol]

shouldve wraith then immolate 💔

[vale wharf]

Hmm?

[royal bobcat]

it's just a really strong econ engine

it's no rebate

but it's pretty good nonetheless

[obsidian patrol]

Unless it was a small pack ❤️‍🩹

[graceful oasis]

🙂

we do what we have to out here

[frigid ocean]

okay did john balatro got naked for you when you won ante 8

[obsidian patrol]

I just assumed it was a big one cause i thought you used ouija

[vale wharf]

I don't understand
What is immolate and wraith?

[obsidian patrol]

the spectral cards

[vale wharf]

Oh

[vale wharf]

@obsidian patrol aw hell nah

That is HORRIBLE

[obsidian patrol]

What is

[vale wharf]

All aces and then immolate

[lyric wave]

well if they'd not used ouija it wouldn't be all aces

[obsidian patrol]

shouldnt have used ouija in the first place ❤️‍🩹

[lyric wave]

ouija is not good at all ;-;

[obsidian patrol]

well it can be good

sometimes

situationally

[lyric wave]

more often than not it's really bad

[vale wharf]

What does ouija do?

[ocean yoke]

Yea

[lyric wave]

-1 hand size, makes all cards in your hand the same random rank

[obsidian patrol]

Turns all cards in hand to one type of card

-1 hand size

[vale wharf]

Also, does blueprint and brainstorm copy the edition on a joker too?

[obsidian patrol]

No

[lyric wave]

no

[vale wharf]

Rip

[vale wharf]

I mean, I did get all aces...

[obsidian patrol]

aces are not all that

[vale wharf]

@obsidian patrol sorry, I mistook names, that is actually not so bad

[left juniper]

No jokers are "bad" it's just that some are a lot more situational. But if you have the set up for the niche case of some they are useful. Yes even you Seance

[royal bobcat]

<@&1133519078540185692>

[left juniper]

<@&1133519078540185692> 🙁

[royal bobcat]

this guy sent the exact same thing in the hk discord bruh

[valid abyss]

me when i baron

[placid cave]

worth it

[left juniper]

True

[valid abyss]

so many dolla signs

[royal bobcat]

that feeling when michel dies in one round

😌

[drifting spire]

should i buy bloodstone and replace anything?

[left juniper]

But it's your only scoring 🙁

[left juniper]

Is your goal to beat Ante 8 or what?

[drifting spire]

i already beat it and used a voucher so i’m still at ante 8

just wanna climb endless

[left juniper]

Whats the mult on the cat? technically Bloodstone probs better right?

[drifting spire]

the kitten is sitting at x15.25 currently

[turbid reef]

Sell lucky cat

[left juniper]

Bloodstone would be 1.5^12 right

[drifting spire]

yea i should probably play with a scientific calculator around

[left juniper]

which is like 120x or w/e

[drifting spire]

one thing though, the deck fixing isn’t that great yet in terms of suits

[left juniper]

120x~ assuming you play 5 face cards and all of them are hearts

[left juniper]

Or I guess 129.746337890625 but 🤷

Well Idol is kinda useless now too

If you can survive without cat you could sell it and try to hard pivot to heart face cards

or be safer and sell the Idol for Bloodstone and hope Idol returns later after more deckfixing

[drifting spire]

okay, wishing myself good luck

i’m taking the riskier route

[left juniper]

Wait I'm stupid you can just sell 1 dice?

lmao

[drifting spire]

hmmm

[left juniper]

I somehow ignored both

[drifting spire]

i think the downside could be lucky cards being triggered less often?

what else

[left juniper]

It means your glass wont break 100% of the time

[drifting spire]

i actually avoided glass because of 2 dices

well there’s one but

[left juniper]

2 dice obviously good for lucky but best option is just selling one for bloodstone. Cat then goes next once you find BP/BS unless you wanna part with Idol

[drifting spire]

great, ty all

[drifting spire]

oh quick question, what’s the best joker to copy if BP/BS comes (assuming cat is gone

[royal bobcat]

tuff choice

both at once would be peak but i cant

[acoustic kettle]

Obbylisks

[left juniper]

You wanna balance your triggers and scoring. So let's assume you play face cards with no red seals and they are all hearts. You'd copy bloodstone because Card + Sock + Chad-ish would be 2+ triggers so copying Bloodstone would be 2 scoring. We'll ignore Idol for now

[royal bobcat]

the thing is

obelisk gives me nothing to survive the first four antes

and whats the point of planning the long term if i can't survive the short term

if i take runner i get something that'll support right now and for the entire run

[left juniper]

oh I also forgot Dusk. You have 3.3ish triggers because of that. So you'd copy Bloodstone for sure

[royal bobcat]

(also runner on painted)

[left juniper]

My goat

[manic talon]

this do be tough

[royal bobcat]

theres no way i draw no fucking straight

thats insane

[left juniper]

Ok wait. Obelisk is probably the "better" or "correct" choice but how often do you do Straight builds? Be honest. Pick the fun option

[acoustic kettle]

Gay builds

[royal bobcat]

i don't think obelisk is the best pick

not by that much anyway

[left juniper]

I don't think 🤷 shop 1 runner is fun

No think. Just click.

[manic talon]

i think the ante 1 runner is correct, atleast on painted

[royal bobcat]

aaaand since i couldn't find a straight i can't buy the paintbrush

[vale wharf]

How does one fumble this bad...

[royal bobcat]

i am going to take the rental jimbo chat

i dont have a choice

this is my life now

ooooh seeing double

alright maybe i don't need rental jimbo

does luchador give me my discards back against the water?

[left juniper]

I found the answer

[left juniper]

Yes

[royal bobcat]

LMAO

this is very funny

GIVE ME A SATURN GAME

JUST GIVE IT TO ME

well I GUESS i can take canio

[vale wharf]

But they're 2 negative jokersssss
That's AMAZING

[left juniper]

True my b

[royal bobcat]

WE GOT THE SATURN CHAT

[vale wharf]

Uhhhh, what do I pick???

[vale wharf]

What does this mean?

[left juniper]

The correct answer is Soul but the fun answer is Grim

[vale wharf]

I went soul and got chico 😭

[left juniper]

Tears of joy I assume

Grrrr me with my 2 face card jokers 😠 how dare I get a joker which helps me win easier 😠

[tight storm]

what do i do to get dusk?

[left juniper]

Sell one Chad because 5 > 2

[tight storm]

good point good point

[vale wharf]

It just makes the run boring

[royal bobcat]

FUCK i died because of stupid eye

eye you suck

i'll say it

you're needle but worse

[vale wharf]

There are literally no stakes

[royal bobcat]

are you kidding me

i mean YES THERE IS REBATE

but what about burnt

also eternal on rebate on painted is uh

idk

hmmmmmmm

[left juniper]

eh the Rebate is a Rebate but the Buffoon Pack could be anything. It could even be a Rebate!

(yes it cant be dont ruin my fun)

[pale wolf]

i would burnt

[royal bobcat]

BAHAHAHAHA

madness in buffoon pack

[pale wolf]

🙂

[left juniper]

Me when I dont look at the full picture (often)

[royal bobcat]

no money unfort

i would if i could

[pale wolf]

i know

i thought it was funny you were like what about burnt

[tight storm]

bro e15

i am out of my depth here

sorry im just like blurting this out in chat

what is happening

[left juniper]

That's what it's for 🫡

[pale wolf]

retriggers

[royal bobcat]

got enough money for the TELESCOPE eyaaaaa

[vale wharf]

Chat, quick question
If I'm using that joker which makes all cards face cards, does the blind that draws all face cards face down make every card be drawn face down?

[left juniper]

Yes

[pale wolf]

yes

[vale wharf]

Damn, what an evil joker

[pale wolf]

which tbh isnt always a run ender

face down is fine but debuffed is dead

[fading cobalt]

Which is more brainrot. Buskin+chad+photograph or aj+bloodstone+lusty+oops

[tight storm]

should i move blueprint to dusk for retriggers or keep it on bloodstone

[fading cobalt]

Keep on bloodstone

[left juniper]

Keep on bloodstone

[tight storm]

mkay thank you

[fading cobalt]

Alright buddy no need to copy me

[tight storm]

i dont take invisible joker here right?

not much worth copying

[left juniper]

Eh your cat is useless right? Whats the mult on it?

[tight storm]

14x

[graceful oasis]

copying any of these would be amazing what

[tight storm]

im trying my hardest bro im panicking 😔

[graceful oasis]

copy all of them !

[left juniper]

🤔 if you win without Cat you could sell it. Bloodstone, Dusk or Blueprint would all be nice Invis targets

Or you'd just hope you find a Brainstorm and sell Cat for Brainstorm

[graceful oasis]

doubling your double would keep cat running

[left juniper]

then you sell Chad for Invis or Showman or Idol etc

[tight storm]

mkay invis joker it is thank you wise balatrocord users

[left juniper]

We never claimed to be wise. Or at least I didn't 🙃

Just a little addicted

[tight storm]

damn 😭

[royal bobcat]

too early, too early...

[vale wharf]

Is it ever a good idea to build your strategy around straights?

[left juniper]

yeah why not?

[vale wharf]

Just feels harder to actually play them

[left juniper]

This is true. Play whatever you find fun

[tight storm]

chat help

[left juniper]

It's Ante 12 so let's be honest. You have a 1/5 chance of hitting the 1 legendary which will help you

You can sell Invis and hope for Trib. Which is probs the best play

because if you miss it's +$10

and then just look for that Brainstorm

[graceful oasis]

do you have any legendary gold jokers already

[left juniper]

Red Stake so it doesn't matter

[vale wharf]

I have opened probably over 20 wheels of fortune since I started the game and I have not got it to work even once

[graceful oasis]

oopsies

[left juniper]

The next will work trust

[graceful oasis]

heres a secret you can save scum them

[fading cobalt]

Balatrodle spoilers.
What the hell is it??

[graceful oasis]

blue joker

[tight storm]

how dumb is it selling chad for this

[vale wharf]

What's that?

[graceful oasis]

the blue one that gives chips for each card in ur deck

[tight storm]

id have a chance duping trib

[royal bobcat]

not crimson heart not crimson heart not crimson heart

[vale wharf]

Gamble gamble gamble 🤑

[left juniper]

Yeah do it. I dare you

[fading cobalt]

What a technical fucking scaling joker

[royal bobcat]

VIOLET VESSEL AAAAAA

[graceful oasis]

as soon as i saw chips and scaling i didnt even need the b lol

[vale wharf]

How does that relate to wheel of fortune?

[tight storm]

perkeo i can work with that

i think

[left juniper]

Chad is common so if you really want it'll be back soon anyway

[graceful oasis]

i had already moved onto the other guy i was just telling you to save scum

[fading cobalt]

Bloker is technically a scaling joker but its consistently diminishing and dentrimental to your deck if you wanna effectively use it

Like who would ever think of it as a scaling joker 😭

[graceful oasis]

scaling the long way

[left juniper]

Holy shit flashbacks to when chat argued nearly every joker was scaling based on these rules

[vale wharf]

You replied to me by mistake
What does save scum mean?

[fading cobalt]

Yeah lusty joker is a scaling joker if you play more than 5 cards technically

[royal bobcat]

world's clutchest ecto

surely that 1x from stencil is going to save me

[graceful oasis]

oh my bad i did reply to the wrong guy

[royal bobcat]

wraith will give me blueprint

we trust

in god we trust

[graceful oasis]

exiting to menu as soon as you see WoF says nope and reloading the save

[left juniper]

Which Madness will then kill 🙂

[royal bobcat]

INVIS NO NOT THE WRONG ONE

[fading cobalt]

Yep

[graceful oasis]

before the gamestate logs

[royal bobcat]

i'm right before violet vessel

it won't kill it

[fading cobalt]

Sell it so madness doesnt kill

[royal bobcat]

IM BEFORE A BOSS IM NOT STUPID

OH MY GOD

[fading cobalt]

Skip next two blinds for invis value

[vale wharf]

So... I can keep trying to make it work?

[left juniper]

Yeah I'm gonna need you to cite your sources

[graceful oasis]

no it is static but you can at least get your money back

[vale wharf]

Oh, I see... thanks!

[royal bobcat]

okay im dead

[fading cobalt]

How I feel when I dont check what ante someone is on when they send a screenshot

[left juniper]

Wheels hitting/missing are based on seed. If it misses then save scumming wont help

[tight storm]

invis duped oops all 6s

[royal bobcat]

thats my source

[left juniper]

Worth the attempt honestly

[royal bobcat]

the source is that i'm fucking dead

okay HOLD UP i can do ace-5

[tight storm]

i cant even send my gif of a cat with a thousand yard stare

[left juniper]

Bro just sell the Invis that extra 1x will help trust

[royal bobcat]

GIVE MY STRAIGHT AHHHHHH

IM GOING TO LOSE MY MIND

HOLY SHIIIIIT

[drifting spire]

out of everything, the idol went for 8 of hearts

[royal bobcat]

1X ISN'T GOING TO SAVE ME IF I CANT DRAW A FUCKING STRAIGHT

[fading cobalt]

Rip

[left juniper]

going to

[fading cobalt]

More lucky cat value ig

[royal bobcat]

this chat is MAKING me LOSE my MIND

[tight storm]

do i brainstorm bloodstone

im just asking yall everything atp

[royal bobcat]

I am becoming UNHINGED

[fading cobalt]

Negative madness looks magnificent

[plucky agate]

Do you have red seals

[tight storm]

yes

[left juniper]

Bro is turning into my bathroom door

[fading cobalt]

5 low straight

[plucky agate]

Double copy bloodstone

[royal bobcat]

plaeyd it already

[drifting spire]

also could i risk a bit and sell cat for seltzer to hope for rolling BP?

[tight storm]

cool

[left juniper]

Yes

[royal bobcat]

couldn't draw another straight

5 hands

3 discards

btw

1 straight

im fine

this is fine

[fading cobalt]

Um selling cat for seltzer seems terrible here

[plucky agate]

3 scoring x 3 triggers with dusk. You want to balance your triggers and scoring effects

[red thistle]

Maybe i could've made it 3.

[left juniper]

Eh dont worry about it. Look on the bright side 🙂

[red thistle]

Balatrodle

[fading cobalt]

How does that increase odds of getting bp??

[royal bobcat]

see this is why straights are the worst hand in the entire game by far

[tight storm]

i got invis again i think im selling perk

[royal bobcat]

you see

when i'm discarding for something that's not a straight

[fading cobalt]

Bro is playing one of the most inconsistent hands? 😭

[royal bobcat]

i can keep my sanity

i can be like

"yeah i want nines"

[left juniper]

I assume you deckfixed for straights yea?

[royal bobcat]

"yeah i want a club"

if i play pairs (best hand btw) i don't even have to discard!

but then there's the filthy, grimy, disgusting straight

[fading cobalt]

If the glass gets destroyed will idol change?

[left juniper]

Bro is crashing out so hard he's starting to re-assemble. Let him cook

[left juniper]

no

[royal bobcat]

crawling from the deepest depths of hell

[plucky agate]

Have you deck fixed enough for a possible idol?

[fading cobalt]

Yeah its over

[royal bobcat]

holding out a friendly hand in the form of high scaling

and once you grab that hand

[fading cobalt]

Constellation my beloved

[royal bobcat]

oh once you do

IT GRABS YOU AND GOES BACK DOWN

AND YOU CAN'T LET GO

IT'S TOO LATE

[fading cobalt]

Put constellation before card sharp

[tight storm]

nearly

[royal bobcat]

you're already gone

[turbid reef]

Does it make a difference?

[fading cobalt]

Geeked

[left juniper]

Someone write this all down. It's straight fire

[drifting spire]

WAIT NO

i miscounted my hand number and full choked

[turbid reef]

10x3 vs 3x10

[fading cobalt]

Maybe maybe not

[royal bobcat]

anyway time to do another run :)

[drifting spire]

alright i’ll take orange stake on ante 14

[royal bobcat]

i wanst truly crashing out

im just mildly annoyed when i play straights

[plucky agate]

You didn't say you had polychrome

[royal bobcat]

it always ends up like that

[left juniper]

I know. That's why I kept pushing lol

[royal bobcat]

grrr

[drifting spire]

i hate idol who just pick that one singular card out of everything

[tight storm]

i think i ssd earlier myb

[royal bobcat]

bit aside, i really dislike straights

if i have the option i'll always go for 4oak instead

[turbid reef]

What’s the point of them scaling fast if I can’t even play the hand

[plucky agate]

All g I wasn't in chat then. Doesn't change the copy. It's 4x3 compare to 3x4

[drifting spire]

o7

[turbid reef]

Getting a straight run going on blue stake is brutal

[fading cobalt]

My fault I thought it would be different

I was wrong

[plucky agate]

May be worth copying dusk more if you're scoring enough to get more possible lucky card triggers

[royal bobcat]

i can't wait to have blue stake reworked man

[fading cobalt]

Was the seed forcing a straight build? 😭

[tight storm]

if rounds are safe then i might but im really not fussed by lucky card triggers rn

[turbid reef]

How did anyone play 5 cards hand before the first update. Not only did you have -1 discards from blue stake but you also had -1 hand size from a different stake

[plucky agate]

You should be. $20 is a lot of money and you have about 20ish chances to get the hit

[royal bobcat]

eternal seance angle?

is this the god run chat?

[plucky agate]

Well it's not a lot a lot but it's more than nothing

[tight storm]

mkay ill minmax it then

[royal bobcat]

oh nice jimbo with parking

[tight storm]

i love this game

[royal bobcat]

thats actually really good

[fading cobalt]

I don't like playing straights but I play them anyway

[wanton tinsel]

Guys I need pointers to beat the red deck

[plucky agate]

You don't have to sorry for backseating

[royal bobcat]

well if it's optimal i play them

[turbid reef]

Always pick up 8 ball

[plucky agate]

I'm too optimal play pilled

[tight storm]

no youre totally fine im asking you lol

ty for your wisdom

[fading cobalt]

When are straights ever optimal lol

[plucky agate]

With the dice is more worth than if you didn't have it

[plucky agate]

When scaling runner

[turbid reef]

Straight scales super quick

[plucky agate]

^

[turbid reef]

If you get the correct jokers straight is broken

[fading cobalt]

But getting the hand is inconsistent

[turbid reef]

Yeah that’s the issue

But there is jokers that help with that

[plucky agate]

That's why you eventually want to get out of it

[turbid reef]

Four fingers and shortcut

[royal bobcat]

in many occasions

[fading cobalt]

They were in ante 8 with straights

[royal bobcat]

like this one

[fading cobalt]

The rare occasion of actually getting good deckfixing before dying

[royal bobcat]

there's a saturn

this saturn

[fading cobalt]

😱

[royal bobcat]

by itself

clears the first ante

for cheaper than anything else

[fading cobalt]

Yeah its ante 1 bro

[royal bobcat]

ragebaiting 💔

[fading cobalt]

Straights arent optimal for winning or going for endless build

[plucky agate]

Does Jupiter consistently clear ante 1 boss by itself or is it draw dependant

[turbid reef]

Draw dependent

[royal bobcat]

endless builds are irrelevant

[turbid reef]

Some times you don’t get the straight

It’s luck dependent

[fading cobalt]

Yeah well you died on ante 8 with a straight build so clearly straights arent consistent enough for high antes

[royal bobcat]

they are

when you draw them

[plucky agate]

I highly disagree with the first statement. Runner makes that statement unequivocally false

[royal bobcat]

you see

[turbid reef]

Does a weak level 2 straight hand one shot ante 1?

[fading cobalt]

You are talking about straights being good in the literal first fucking ante

[royal bobcat]

i had no issues until that very last blind

[tight storm]

idolllll

do i sell bloodstone for idol or wait

[plucky agate]

And guess what? You need to clear the first ante to beat the game

[turbid reef]

Like a 65432 straight or something similar

[fading cobalt]

The moment you use all discards and hands and couldn't get enough straights to win

[plucky agate]

Depends on ur deck fixing. What did the invis land on?

[tight storm]

invis isnt done yet

[plucky agate]

Hm

I reckon sell invisible for the idol

Invis can hit oops which is very bad

[tight storm]

good thing that didnt happen to me earlier this run right guys ha . haha.ah.haha..

ill sell invis

[turbid reef]

Leveling up flush doesn’t one shot the boss meanwhile straight does. You are spending 3 dollars for the planet card but you are definitely making that money back from the saved hands

[plucky agate]

Get as much money as possible and roll for tarots

[turbid reef]

It’s a relatively cheap way to one shot ante one

[tight storm]

i just rerolled another invis immediately

[plucky agate]

Straights aren't the best hand to play up until ante 8 but they 100% have their use cases. Definitely not a completely useless hand

[fading cobalt]

Yeah that's all fair but I was saying its a inconsistent build to hold for the entire game

I say one point and everyone argues about a different point that has minimal relevance to what I'm saying

[turbid reef]

Leveling straights gives much more + mult and chips than other planets and jokers that synergies with straights are generally stronger than other jokers

[turbid reef]

If you make it work straights are amazing

[fading cobalt]

But it IS INCONSISTENT TO MAKE IT WORK

[turbid reef]

Yeah no shit

[plucky agate]

Wait until you get deck fixing in order then you can maybe sell bloodstone? Was oops an unfortunate ecto hit

[tight storm]

yeahhhh

[fading cobalt]

THATS WHAT I'M TRYING TO FUCKING SAY

Straights having usecases and straights having consistent reliability for you to build them are two different arguments

Most of the time you wont build straights without alot of circumstances coming into place

[plucky agate]

Can U chill out

You play what the game gives you

[fading cobalt]

Its like getting lucky with a royal flush or a strush in ante 1 and saying well I'm gonna build around that hand now

[plucky agate]

If the game gives you straights, you play straights

[turbid reef]

^

There isn’t a truly consistent hand

[fading cobalt]

Pairs

[turbid reef]

Pair is the most consistent but you won’t be winning every game with pairs

[tight storm]

this is a fictional card game we need to breathe deeply

[plucky agate]

Ur not always going to get a pair build

[turbid reef]

Pairs easiest build to force yes. But you won’t always get a pair build

[fading cobalt]

Ur almost never gonna get a reliable straight build

[orchid comet]

I hear that a lot

what does it mean? U have most chances of pulling a pair?

[pale wolf]

yea first round straights are fine, theyre capable of 1shotting small blind and 2 shotting the next 2

big blind you only need like a straight and another mediocre hand

[turbid reef]

No that would be high card. There is just more jokers that work well with pairs

[pale wolf]

you can always force a pair build

[plucky agate]

Pairs have some of the most synergistic options while being an easy enough hand to draw consistently

[orchid comet]

wouldn't that be full house or two pair

[fading cobalt]

Things around pairs are pretty consistent aswell tho. 3oak, 2 pair and if you deck fix around pairs then you can start playing 4oak and 5oak in higher antes. But thats dependent on rng

[tacit stream]

you can play abandoned deck

[orchid comet]

because of trousers or trio

and pairs are present in both

[fading cobalt]

Pairs have alot that you can pivot to before locking in with pairs which is why its the most optimal hand

[turbid reef]

Yeah when you build around pairs you can usually switch to another hand if that would be more effective

Otherwise just sticking to pairs is usually fine

[orchid comet]

oh okayy

[pale wolf]

trousers is a good pair joker too

[plucky agate]

They are harder to draw. Especially when using jokers that disincentivise discard like grimbo, banner or burglar

[turbid reef]

Trousers is so broken

[orchid comet]

fr

[turbid reef]

But how do you nerf it

[fading cobalt]

Burglar haters when they see me use my hands as a discard:

[orchid comet]

degrat

[fading cobalt]

Degrat is shit

[turbid reef]

Who is degrat

[plucky agate]

Can you shush please you're just being annoying at this point

[pale wolf]

pi pi to get the voucher and I pi for my phone was not pi pi but I'm going for it now lol yea i pi to see what i did to pi for pi pi pi pi pi pi pi pi pi pi but the rest pi pi pi pi pi to https worth pi for pi pi pi pi but pi pi pi to https pi for pi to see what happens pi for the same pi pi pi pi but pi pi pi pi pi to get rid itself pi for my first time pi pi pi to pi pi but the pi pi to 9 9999999o9⁸oo

[plucky agate]

Delayed gratification

[fading cobalt]

Only usecase for degrat is ante 1 or 2 cuz you have less needs for discards to win

[turbid reef]

Blue stake ruined it

[plucky agate]

That's just not true lol

[fading cobalt]

4$ and you cant use discards is terrible bro

[turbid reef]

Payoff is the same as gold joker but requires you to play high card or pairs

[pale wolf]

delete gratification has usage but it's pretty terrible

[plucky agate]

Unfortunately yeah a lot of the discard jokers get nerfed by blue stake

It's not the best I agree but it can be useful in certain situations

[turbid reef]

It’s literally just a worse gold joker 90% of the time

[fading cobalt]

Degrat is the worst econ joker imo

[plucky agate]

The humble satellite

[turbid reef]

I used satellite once. I guess it was fine

[fading cobalt]

You can get more than $4 from satellite pretty fast

[pale wolf]

satellite is better than delayed

You can tell by the way it is

[plucky agate]

You don't always get given golden joker. You're looking at it in a vacuum. This is a game about using what you're given

[fading cobalt]

You'd be lucky to get a refund for buying degrat tbh

[plucky agate]

Even if a joker has a counterpart that is strictly stronger, you're not guaranteed to get it in a shop

[fading cobalt]

Like golden joker isn't the only argument to be made about degrat you can find any econ joker and get more value from it than degrat

[plucky agate]

Some jokers are better than others, but you aren't guaranteed to roll into them. Even the nichest jokers have a use case and aren't completely useless

[turbid reef]

I’d buy degrat for temperance value. Will only ever unironically use it if I have a high card/pair build working

[tight storm]

is showman worth anything atp?

[fading cobalt]

No

[tight storm]

ty

[turbid reef]

You would lose a lot of scoring if you sell anything

Would not take it

[tight storm]

🙏

[plucky agate]

I agree. I don't think it's worth playing towards by itself but if U have a build already going it's a nice bump in money generation

[plucky agate]

Showman requires you to sell a scoring joker. Plus you can still always get sock and buskin

[turbid reef]

Is there a joker that truly sucks no matter the build? Even something like 8ball can be used if you have a bunch of retriggers

[plucky agate]

Zany joker maybe? Even then it can be useful early on

I believe most jokers have a use case, even if it's niche

[pale wolf]

i think delayed gratification does suck no matter the build, just because it's not a detriment doesn't mean it doesn't suck

[plucky agate]

Hiker is pretty bad

[pale wolf]

if you try to maximize it by getting Mary Andy and discard vouchers, you'd be better off just using the disc cards to dig for value

[coral egret]

stake idea - diamond stake
-1 hand

[turbid reef]

If blue stake wasn’t enough

[pale wolf]

hiker pops off with early retriggers and you can still use it throughout a run for longer without retriggers

[coral egret]

or it can be -1 handsize

[turbid reef]

Even worse

[plucky agate]

I'm sure that would make lots of people very happy. Make black deck every deck

[fading cobalt]

Not using discards is dentrimental lol

[plucky agate]

You aren't guaranteed to draw those cards though

More often than not they get buried

[lunar zealot]

every atom in my body is screaming no

[fading cobalt]

Kinda balanced imo

[pale wolf]

drawing one gold card nearly matches delayed gratification, and drawing two outpaces it
of course, that changes when you have more discards but

[lunar zealot]

no i shouldn't take an ante 1 baron

no i shouldn't

[fading cobalt]

Between 1 less discard or 1 less hand size they're both pretty mid

[lunar zealot]

i should take abstract and dcut

and then go next

i don't need it

i don't need it

i Definitely don't need it

i don't need it

i don't need it

[pale wolf]

why are you even considering the baron

[lunar zealot]

the funny

[turbid reef]

It will be an okay joker whenever blue stake rework comes

Probably

[lunar zealot]

don't tell me you don't do funny runs if you get the opportunity to

i did a bloodstone run a week back

almost lost cuz bloodstone sucks

[lunar zealot]

i don't need it

i don't need it

[turbid reef]

Because Baron is an incredibly consistent joker that always works

[pale wolf]

Not recently

[lunar zealot]

I NEED IT

[coral egret]

every atom in my body is telling every atom in ur body yes

[fading cobalt]

Ante 2 mime

[lunar zealot]

QHBDFGBJKDGHBJKGWDBSKHJJGF

[pale wolf]

streak: 0

[pale wolf]

what in the fuck

[turbid reef]

Naneinf gold stake

[pale wolf]

do you have the money for both

[lunar zealot]

ADGKBJDSZFJKBHBJKGSDJBLK??????

?????????

/??????

[plucky agate]

They're on the wrong deck

[pale wolf]

welp

[plucky agate]

Gag

[pale wolf]

are you already on the streak or is this the start of one

[lunar zealot]

i don't streak

[fading cobalt]

Pick up ante 1 baron cuz you'll get a mime

[tacit stream]

[pale wolf]

clearly 😎

[plucky agate]

Kid named reroll voucher

You did buy it yes?

[fading cobalt]

You mean director cut?

[turbid reef]

It’s technically possible

[plucky agate]

With a perkeo

[turbid reef]

With an early perkeo + sixth sense

[fading cobalt]

Observatory

Copy high card

[tight storm]

do i ectoplasm? hand size is currently 8

[pale wolf]

hold the ectoplasm for when you see a joker you need

Don't just use it immediately

[turbid reef]

You need like 1.3K planet cards to naneinf iirc

Is that even possible to reach?

[tight storm]

good call

[plucky agate]

Can you not be pedantic. You know what I mean

[fading cobalt]

You would crash game before that lol

[tacit stream]

kid named reroll into psychic. Might as well find retcon first.

[pale wolf]

You can absolutely get 1.3k planet cards

[plucky agate]

True

[fading cobalt]

Well I was thinking of reroll surplus

I think in this case being specific would be more logical than praying people understand what you mean

[turbid reef]

You’d need to get 11 planet cards every turn as soon as you start the game

I guess it’s possible with enough blueprint and brainstorm

If you have a shit ton of them

[lunar zealot]

wha tthe fuck is happening

[pale wolf]

there should be a spectral card that turns all of the consumables you're holding negative

this is such a good idea

[plucky agate]

It makes sense in context. Everyone with an ounce of intelligence would know what I meant

[pale wolf]

God shut up

[summer jay]

Pick up ante 1 photo cuz you'll get a chad

[lunar zealot]

how is this working???????

[pale wolf]

hail to the King baby

[turbid reef]

Haven’t played photochad in so long

[plucky agate]

Burnt jonkler is a crazy pickup

[tight storm]

hit mime but i dont have steel cards

kms

[plucky agate]

Mime is terrible in ur build

[tight storm]

yeah

not taking it

obv

[pale wolf]

Wait you didn't take the chat earlier

chaf

chad

didn't you want more business card money

[lunar zealot]

i die to plant

[plucky agate]

You want sock or showman and that's pretty much it

[lunar zealot]

but hey

wait no i already have dcut

i dont even die to plant

[lunar zealot]

it was perishable lmao

[pale wolf]

but I figured the Chad would be useful after too

especially when you have Copy Joker

[topaz garnet]

[lunar zealot]

where are my kings.

[tacit stream]

pickup ante 1 seance because you'll get 4f shortcut smeared

[lunar zealot]

oh there we are

ok i need more kings clearly

[turbid reef]

If chads effect was changed so it retriggers the first 2 cards once would it still be too broken as a common?

[lunar zealot]

otherwise i die hard to needle

[plucky agate]

Certainly one of the builds of all time

[lunar zealot]

wait fuck im dumb i have dcut

[pale wolf]

I don't think it's too broken as it is now

[lunar zealot]

i KEEP FORGETTING

[fringe crest]

whats the best you guys have scored in non endless

[turbid reef]

E30 I think

[fringe crest]

i got e60 smth one time