🕹・game-discussion

[cloud sinew]

you would need to use the 3rd dimension for reflection in 2 dimensions, same as in 3D you would need to use the 4th dimension

[robust lance]

?

didnt?

[unreal island]

whozat

oh wait

thats trib lmao

[cloud sinew]

agar you cant be fr

[pale wolf]

In my eyes, when I say something is upside down, it means that the upside has been put onto the bottom

[still tapir]

i see blueprint i thin

k

[pale wolf]

and to be fair I never said the word flip

[unreal island]

wait no

thats not trib

[robust lance]

look who it is

[unreal island]

that's trib

[robust lance]

i do need to gold it so i guess i have to take it

[still tapir]

oh

[pale wolf]

if we're talking about balatro, flip doesn't even mean reflection anyways, it's a rotation of the card so it's face down 🙂

[white zodiac]

upsidedown circle goes crazy

[vocal rose]

polychrome it

[vocal rose]

how many sides does a circle have

[robust lance]

im yellow decking it

[pale wolf]

1

[cloud sinew]

theyre not flipped, theyre "face down"

[white zodiac]

2

freaky

and

[unreal island]

it has no sides as it has no vertexes

[white zodiac]

the other one

[vocal rose]

yes

[cloud sinew]

1, 2, 0 or infinite depending on the mathematician

[unreal island]

the true answer

it depends on the mathematician

or the field

[cloud sinew]

a calculus professor would say it has infinite sides

[pale wolf]

they are flipped

[cloud sinew]

you said "so it's face down"

[alpine nest]

So flipped=face down

[cloud sinew]

those are not the same blinds

[robust lance]

sure at this point why not

[alpine nest]

LMAO

[pale wolf]

ah yes, the face down bosses and acorn are actually completely different phenomena

[cloud sinew]

joker cards get flipped, playing cards get placed "face down"

[pale wolf]

It's a totally different kind of flipping the card over

[unreal island]

8 ball run my favorite

[vocal rose]

idk it’s some pedantic thing happening

[robust lance]

hits immediately

[cloud sinew]

you cant be a pedant and say that wording matters because scoring blah blah blah and then act like this

[cloud sinew]

okay "scoring isnt real"

[primal grotto]

I'm doing endless and have sold the rocket for the order

[pale wolf]

It's literally the same animation 😭

[cloud sinew]

okay so the animation matters and not the wording, got it. good to see youre logically consistent /s

[thorny axle]

wait

i never noticed that

why

thats weird

[pale wolf]

I mean neither of them matter because I never said flip when referring to upside down initially

but if I had said flip then I would totally feel validated

[thorny axle]

all roads lead to ante 8

[cloud sinew]

you also never said it was rotated either, so

[vocal rose]

all roads lead to pedantry in this discord channel

somehow

[unreal island]

bro i lowkey want sushi

[cloud sinew]

okay but go elsewhere this is balatro chat

[pale wolf]

sushi seems so cruel, just eating those fish alive

[vocal rose]

get some

[white zodiac]

you can even do the same grab the card tech 😀

[unreal island]

nah bro its expensive and i already ate lunch

[vocal rose]

don’t get some

[unreal island]

im like full but at the same time i want sushi its a terrible predicament

[cloud sinew]

some of the same tech, not all of it

[pale wolf]

oh I guess you could with misprint Tech?

[cloud sinew]

???

[unreal island]

we should have a sushi joker so i can eat it

mmm yummy

[cloud sinew]

how can you do the "grab the card" tech when you can't grab playing cards before theyre drawn

[pale wolf]

animation speed down, first card gets drawn face down from deck but you know what it is because of misprint and then you can hold it

[vocal rose]

I wonder if thunk likes sushi

[unreal island]

this is insane

[white zodiac]

grab a face down card before more cards appear in your hand after played

[vocal rose]

he’ll add it if he does

surely

[cloud sinew]

thats not the same tech though

[white zodiac]

like for stm

[unreal island]

does this mean that thunkithan also likes actively melting ice cream

[pale wolf]

The technique is to know what the flipped over card is

[white zodiac]

[vocal rose]

he adds food jokers that he likes personally

iirc

[pale wolf]

You're right though it's not the same

[unreal island]

im not comfortable with the fact that local minimum likes eating the poor

[pale wolf]

this is grabbing a card before other cards have been drawn rather than grabbing a card before theyve been flipped

[unreal island]

is that why vagabond is in the game?

[vocal rose]

what joker is this in reference too

[pale wolf]

popcorn

[vocal rose]

vagabond isn’t a food joker

[pale wolf]

okay so
popcorn
its not movie popcorn is it, its probably circus/carnival popcorn

[vocal rose]

nasty

[unreal island]

nah it looks like movie popcorn to me

also kettle corn slaps

[vocal rose]

idk why carnival/circus popcorn exists

it’s a total clash of flavors

that don’t blend together

not in a balancing way

[white zodiac]

I don't even know what they taste like

[primal grotto]

straight builds don't have that endless potential but finishing on ante 11 on gold stake is nothing to sneeze at

[pale wolf]

I don't mean like candy coated or whatever, just
popcorn machines at the carnival

[unreal island]

ah... ah... achoo!

[vocal rose]

ohhhh

[pale wolf]

I'm not finding very accessible information on where the red and white striped popcorn box originates

but it seems like it's probably movie theaters after all

In that case though I think popcorn should cost like three times as much as it does

[unreal island]

ngl imagine a voucher that gave a 1 in 6 chance to create a random tarot upon selling a tarot

[vocal rose]

lame and not useful

[unreal island]

but you could sell your lovers and get another lovers!

[vocal rose]

I want popcorn now

[random ice]

Perishable Nat Negative Bones helped with scoring

[willow frost]

useful for infinite econ with oops, but lame yes

[pale wolf]

popcorn is before you pop it
then it's poppedcorn

[vocal rose]

it’s kernels

so beat that

[unreal island]

popcorn is the instructions

[pale wolf]

colonel*

[cloud sinew]

no, it's popped popcorn

[pale wolf]

popped corns

[cloud sinew]

popcorn is the type of kernel

[vocal rose]

colonel sanders

[pale wolf]

if I find sand in my fucking popcorn

so help me god

[vocal rose]

how in the world

[cloud sinew]

why the fuck

is that a concern

[pale wolf]

well you said that there's some kernel sanders running around

[vocal rose]

no the kfc guy…

[cloud sinew]

yeah he sands

he's a sander

[pale wolf]

oh wait is he making the popcorn smooth

[vocal rose]

i get it… I GET THE JOKE

[pale wolf]

so it's going to be polished popped corn

[cloud sinew]

abrasive manoeuvres

[cloud sinew]

polished popped popcorn kernels

[vocal rose]

this is a funny bit icl

[pale wolf]

never noticed the world had such a huge third leg

[unreal island]

this caught me off gourd

im pretty sure its a ribbon

[pale wolf]

I want to make the funniest most subtle texture change now

I believe it's a sash

I don't think it's hair even though it's the same color as their hair

okay well I can't post the actual tarot card because it has nipples but its a sash/scarf thing

[white zodiac]

dm me

[fading cobalt]

What if we had a voucher that did +1 ante

[vocal rose]

needs to be an extreme upside for that

[unreal island]

uh

then what

[fading cobalt]

+1 hand

[vocal rose]

and also that just wins

[fading cobalt]

Just the exact same as hieroglyph but opposite

[floral mural]

instant death voucher?

[fading cobalt]

[white zodiac]

can't wait to use this ante 8

[pale wolf]

+1 ante, set money to -$100

[fading cobalt]

Well you would grab it if your build is overkilling

[vocal rose]

so just an extremely nerfed grabber?

[unreal island]

this is balanced bc wraith exists!

obviously

[pale wolf]

+2 hands /s

[floral mural]

skipping to get to the end quicker isnt something you do because its good. you do it because youre gurranteed to win either way

[fading cobalt]

Well +1 ante can help speed up getting good jokers for your build

[vocal rose]

uh huh

[floral mural]

no it doesnt

[pale wolf]

no it cannot

It's not like better Jokers appear further in the run

[fading cobalt]

Higher ante = better jokers??

[floral mural]

youre literally losing time to get those good jokers and get them ip and running

[pale wolf]

no that's not how it works

[fading cobalt]

Is that not true??

[pale wolf]

probabilities don't change throughout the run

[unreal island]

no, more rerolling = more chances to find good jokers

[fading cobalt]

I don't believe you

[pale wolf]

okay I guess

[heavy heron]

probabilities do not go up as a run starts

[floral mural]

nope joker generation isnt based on ante its based on specific shop effecting vouchers tho i guess

[heavy heron]

you're just as likely to find brainstorm ante 1 as you are ante 8

[vocal rose]

what kind of game are you playing

[pale wolf]

I mean if you could tell me what led you to believe that this does happen then maybe I could disillusion you

[unreal island]

that's why we flew in the one and the only LOCALTHUNK all the way from the dungeons of playstack!

[pale wolf]

but there's literally no information in the game that tells you this is what would happen

[vocal rose]

yeah im appalled that was an actual assumption

[floral mural]

you see brainstorm more in higher antes because you played through 4 antes worth of shops instead of 1

[fading cobalt]

Idk man I just assumed

[cloud sinew]

the deck that's being used in parei's card art is so weird
there are two 8 of diamonds that have different layouts

as seen on the bottom

[vocal rose]

but what made you assume that?? there’s nothing alluding to that

[unreal island]

i think i see a face in there

[vocal rose]

ever

[pale wolf]

Not to mention the cards changing size because pixel art is hard

[fading cobalt]

The fact that I see better jokers in endgame??

[cloud sinew]

because you have more money to roll and find jokers

[floral mural]

the only games i played where that voucher would be good are one step from eden and nuclear throne. with nuclear throne thats because weapon generation is like that in one step the luck stat is also a difficulty stat

[pale wolf]

You see more Jokers throughout a run, meaning you're more likely to find better and better Jokers than the ones you're already holding

[unreal island]

i mean really its just the card at the bottom left is fat asf

[floral mural]

and more time too

[cloud sinew]

time doesn't change anything

[floral mural]

i meant shops

[pale wolf]

money is time

[floral mural]

nvm

im stupid

[pale wolf]

weed cat weed cat

[fading cobalt]

Are you saying its proven that higher antes dont increase the odds of finding certain rarity jokers?

[floral mural]

but this entire game never implies joker rarity is based on ante since otherwise why am i getting so many common in the shops at ante 12

[pale wolf]

proven is an odd way of putting it but yeah the game code does not include anything about probabilities changing throughout a run

[fading cobalt]

Fair enough

[white zodiac]

you need to prove your part of the statement first though what

[floral mural]

whats the common uncommon rare chance again. all i know is rares are 5% chance for any joker spawn

[vocal rose]

no game code signifies that and also that’s a fallacy that im forgetting the name of

[pale wolf]

25% are uncommon, 5% are rare, The rest are common

[vocal rose]

since the burden of proof isn’t on us

[fading dome]

When the game randomly generates Jokers, either in the shop or using other joker generation methods, there is a 70% chance of generating a Common Joker, a 25% chance of generating an Uncommon Joker, and a 5% chance of generating a Rare Joker.

[cloud sinew]

...? that's not how the burden of proof works, also yes.
joker weights stay the same regardless of ante/round
rarity weights stay the same regardless of ante/round

[white zodiac]

thanks wiki

[fading dome]

beep boop 🤖

[pale wolf]

God I remember when you dropped that hit

Good times

[floral mural]

the only shop modifiers are upfront in where they came from

[fading dome]

back in '09

[floral mural]

showman and certain vouchers all state they effect the spawn chance of stuff or shop

[pale wolf]

I guess technically it is true that higher antes will have better jokers bc r1 is pretty difficult to have the enhancement Jokers or Cavendish

[vocal rose]

whats the name of that fallacy

[cloud sinew]

did you add exclusions for Soul and when there's nothing in the pool

[vocal rose]

or is it just straight up “burden of proof fallacy”

[fading dome]

The section goes on to describe legendary jokers/the Soul, but nothing about empty joker pools

[pale wolf]

its the larswijn fallacy

because all proof comes from Lars

[pulsar oar]

Don't empty joker pools just generate Jimbo

[fading dome]

yea

[pale wolf]

aye

[cloud sinew]

argument from ignorance

[fading dome]

That's not true. Proof: I made it up

[pale wolf]

haha so self-referential anyways I'm going to ignore that

[fading dome]

Good, let the ignorance flow through you

[pale wolf]

is jimbo the worst rare

I don't think he's the worst uncommon

[cloud sinew]

Ya :3
Joker is the only joker card that can be generated by riff raff, uncommon tag, rare tag, wraith, and Soul

[cloud sinew]

no

because he's not a rare

[pale wolf]

wrong

[fading dome]

depends on your phrasing

[pale wolf]

just because the card says common doesn't mean he's not also the other rarities, the descriptions of the tags prove this of course

[pulsar oar]

He's so greedy...

[jovial mica]

i went on a tarot card pair run and unlocked all the tarot cards im so sigma [im never saying that again.]

[pale wolf]

something something top up

[cloud sinew]

real

also judgement also in packs

[fading dome]

now if you would've asked "Is Jimbo the worst joker that can be generated from the rare Tag"

[cloud sinew]

that's...

[pulsar oar]

Technically yes

[pale wolf]

if rare tag says it's going to generate a free rare Joker, and then I go into the shop and see a free jimbo, that's my free rare joker, next question

[floral mural]

thatd generally be seance since jimbo does something

[pulsar oar]

Seance is uncommon

[jovial mica]

yeah Jimbo becomes useless later game

[vocal rose]

seance isn’t rare

[floral mural]

so idol

[pale wolf]

also face cards are rank 10 and A is rank 11 and also 14 and 1

[cloud sinew]

you can get a free Joker, not a free jimbo.
there is no joker card named Jimbo

[pulsar oar]

Also it DOES work sometimes

[vocal rose]

idol isn’t rare

[jovial mica]

pair this with baseball and we're sorta golden? [but baseball is rare]

[floral mural]

the line between uncommon and rare effects is paper thin

[pulsar oar]

Is what I would say if t'wasn't just a worse econ joker by selling the spectrals

[fading dome]

Behold! A (featherless) rare joker:

[pulsar oar]

Because they do nothing if you can play straight flushes already

[cloud sinew]

it's about complexity/nicheness

[pale wolf]

I would say it's completely non-existent by how certain joker were balanced by changing rarities instead of effects 😎

[wooden magnet]

blegh

[pale wolf]

excellent

[cloud sinew]

there is a line, it's just a wobbly and vibes based one

[wooden magnet]

i give up

[pulsar oar]

You already know what rank to death into

[jovial mica]

misprint when

[fading dome]

Just imagine getting 2 jimbos in this scenario instead

[jovial mica]

LMAOO

[cloud sinew]

real

[jovial mica]

if that was me I'd buy both and sell 1

[cloud sinew]

a stickerless jimbo and an eternal jimbo

[jovial mica]

oh that changes things

[wooden magnet]

obelisk is eternal

[jovial mica]

no im talking about 2 jimbos

[cloud sinew]

"and sell 1"

[pale wolf]

it would be funny for there to be a mod of balatro that reorders all the jokers into viability-based rarities
top 5 jokers are the legendaries, so like, rebate would be a legendary, etc down to showman and baron being commons

[jovial mica]

I'd keep the obelisk tho

selling one is basically free econ

[cloud sinew]

it would never be agreed upon though

[floral mural]

trib being an uncommon

[pale wolf]

yeah, as all tier lists are bullshit anyways
but we just go on some roughly agreed upon one

[fading dome]

You could do some sort of poll and go for whatever the majority vote is

[pale wolf]

or the mod Creator just decides

lol

[devout reef]

Spin it by making legendaries your top 5 most played jokers. So on and so forth

[fading dome]

but I don't think it would change much from vanilla tbh

[cloud sinew]

and then you have all the statistical issues of choosing your sample group, sample size, what kind of questions you're asking...

[pale wolf]

I think it would be a big struggle with a lot of the good common scalers being rares now

[cloud sinew]

the game would just get harder which sucks

[dry remnant]

rip canio

[cloud sinew]

as the best things are now the rarest

[pale wolf]

it would be half for fun and half for demonstrating why rarities aren't viability

[cloud sinew]

what would become legendary

top 5 jokers? ik blueprint but what else

[fading dome]

I do like that actually. Forces you to change your most used jokers

[cloud sinew]

I don't like that at all

[cloud sinew]

I don't like meta progression like that

[jovial mica]

noooo

[fading dome]

more of a self-imposed challenge than an actual game mode

I don't think it's fun to play regularly, but as a one-off it could be

[terse dock]

Rarities are randomized every run

[cloud sinew]

might as well just make your top 5 not be in any pools

[jovial mica]

this can only be countered by saying if ur early game it makes necessary jokers shitty hard to find

like i am

[alpine basalt]

This might be the fastest i've ever fixed a deck

[pale wolf]

maybe it could be a configurable mod where before being able to continue on your new profile, you would have to make your own tier list

[cloud sinew]

time to make a reverse tier list where I make all the worst things the rarest so I see them less often

[pale wolf]

I mean if you want

[jovial mica]

lmaoo

[pale wolf]

single player game and all

[cloud sinew]

I wouldn't play the mod

[wind basin]

well this is a start

[pale wolf]

You would try it

[cloud sinew]

I wouldn't

[pale wolf]

You will

[jovial mica]

your econ is cooked

[cloud sinew]

I will remove Balatro from my steam account before that happens

[white zodiac]

make your 5 most played jokers legendary rarity after a set amount of wins, 20 after as rares, etc

[cloud sinew]

I would simply leave things as is <3

[white zodiac]

maybe

[pale wolf]

this just in lilo is a huge fan of current idol

I am in no way misconstruing anything

[white zodiac]

omg lilo this is big news

[pale wolf]

this would also be fun

[lone halo]

why play black deck or painted deck when you can play them both together with Troubadour

[wind basin]

bruh

[jovial mica]

no fucking way

[pale wolf]

troubador on blue deck is painted with temperance value

and uh abstract

[lone halo]

swashbonkler

[cloud sinew]

if by current idol you were referring strictly to it's rarity, then yes

[cloud sinew]

and uh swash and uh wheel and uh crimson

and uh dagger barrier [this is just QoL]

[pale wolf]

rental yorick

ahem

RENTAL YORICK

[terse dock]

Dude what if every joker scaled with their rarity when randomized

[pale wolf]

like groker would go to +2 as an uncommon?

seems apocalyptic to try and code

[wind basin]

Ah,the good old rng

[terse dock]

+4 as a rare

[wind basin]

and also

[terse dock]

X0.1 as a legendary

[quartz ember]

elif hell

[wind basin]

I hate this game sometimes

[pale wolf]

You could sell stuntman

and draw two more cards

[wind basin]

it doesnt even matter now

[pale wolf]

I feel pretty clever with that

[pale wolf]

I still really want there to be a +mult legendary

[lone halo]

econ is back baby

[terse dock]

Fine

+8

[fading cobalt]

I accidentally played a hand on the needle without using all my discards (mystic summit) cuz I went to red stake after playing a ton of orange stake and forgot I have 3 not 2 discards

😭🙏

[fading cobalt]

Golden joker clutching with the $4

[pale wolf]

forgetting the default number of resources you have when you switch decks or stakes is such a classic blunder

[fading cobalt]

I went back and checked the recording to see why I even died cuz I was so confused when I saw game over 😭😭

[alpine basalt]

my deck may have become a little too fixed

[fading cobalt]

Ah yes pair build of 2 aces with a ton of random queens in your hand

Quite the interesting build bro

[alpine basalt]

we call this the shoot the moon build

[fading cobalt]

[alpine basalt]

lmao I keep having to add cards and death them into ueens to not run out of glass

wow

[potent tree]

man...i haven't been here in a long time. guess it's time to get back to c++ grind

[pale wolf]

tbh Tdl

oh its red stake

[potent tree]

early econ is good yes

but stake is low enough that brainstorm can be kept for now

[pale wolf]

it doesnt matter whats taken

[alpine basalt]

the tdl was on straight flush I was not boutta take that shit

[potent tree]

i mean you don't have to earn money every round. for all you know next round could be a pair round and that's an easy 15 dollars at least

[tranquil cargo]

before the todo list change that would've been untakeable, but in its current state that's fine to take

[pale wolf]

strush feels so right to say now, months ago i felt like it was disgusting

[potent tree]

i still think strush is unappealing

[pale wolf]

You're referencing a version of the joker that hasn't even existed this year lol

[floral mural]

to do list is fine since bursts of money can help a whole lot as well as steady money

[tranquil cargo]

that said, brainstorm is brainstorm

[floral mural]

there isnt really a bad econ joker

satellite is one i hate tho

[pale wolf]

dgrat can actively harm you if you think you can swing it and then roll poorly

draw poorly, sory

[tranquil cargo]

golden ticket has its moments, but often just sucks

[fading dome]

drat

[floral mural]

delayed grat is more about being too confident than its own fsult although it is pretty poor

[pale wolf]

delayed rattification

🐁

[fading dome]

honestly what I call it sometimes

[floral mural]

like outside pair builds i wouldnt take it and even then digging for value may be better

[pale wolf]

d.rat

[tranquil cargo]

fitting name considering there's a government shutdown

[pale wolf]

lol

[alpine basalt]

WOW

and its canio

[pale wolf]

awesome

what did you sell for it

[alpine basalt]

tarot

[pale wolf]

purple joker it is

if you had gotten yorick that wouldve sucked

[lone halo]

not today satan

[tranquil cargo]

that says 6/6, did you get antimatter by ante 3?

[pale wolf]

oh true

[alpine basalt]

yep

got insanely lucky

[floral mural]

canios good you got it early enough you have time to scale ir

[alpine basalt]

second shot had an immo, so I had enough to buy blank voucher

[pale wolf]

new blue stake is that vouchers can have rental and perishable stickers btw guys

[alpine basalt]

yknow what just for the fun of it

I've already won this round

lmao

[floral mural]

the fact a voucher getting a limit of antes its with you sounds more fun than current blue stake

[twin lantern]

those last 10% will take longer than the first 90 won't they?

[alpine basalt]

okay this seed is actually nuts

[tranquil cargo]

does that even pay for itself?

[alpine basalt]

wouldn't care even if it didn

't

but also yes

[pale wolf]

11 dollars
1 1 3
3 3 5
5 5 doesntmatter

assuming start of ante

rocket kinda nice

[floral mural]

rockets good generally as long as youre able to slot it in

also slotless income is great. theres a reason you go for interest and gold cards

[unreal iron]

i mean if you can manage gold staking the rest of whatever you have and getting some stickers it wont take too long

starting my 2nd account (i did do unlock all tbf) ive already stickered over half the jokers

and also c+

its definitely doable i dont think itll take long, it just depends on your final joker stickers really

[alpine basalt]

NO FUCKING WAY BRO

[unreal iron]

drop photo

or you can hang em

either or

[alpine basalt]

dropped jugg, he wasn't doing nothing anyways

[unreal iron]

copy hanged man :333

[alpine basalt]

nah, temperance

only got 4 face cards in deck rn

[tranquil cargo]

justice a face card and start copying deaths to make 'em and break 'em

[night turret]

Side note, that negative is sick

[alpine basalt]

orrrrr

[tawny grove]

there should be an undo sell i just accidentally fuckin sold my madness with an eternal stensil i got from ante 1

[tranquil cargo]

return to main menu

[floral mural]

exit to main menu and come back

[tawny grove]

YOU CAN DO THAT??

man fuck

i just restarted

[night turret]

Anytime I do something I regret, I just exit the application and reopen

It doesn’t save until you defeat the bind

[alpine basalt]

well that was a lucky aura

found what i'm going to turn into glass and copy

[night turret]

Is this a bad draw for the final boss

Or am I good?

[unreal iron]

well can you find your most played?

[pale wolf]

Not true

[floral mural]

if you can score 250k in the rest of the hands past hand 1 youre good

[pale wolf]

completely closing the game for scumming is dependent on how fast/frequent your game is saving to the cloud

[night turret]

Really? It always drops my save off the last defeated boss

[ashen mauve]

What do I drop here for mime. I know the answer but I just don’t want to admit it😂

[vocal rose]

cav no competition

[pale wolf]

It's not so consistent as to be very predictable

unless it is for you in which case, good I suppose

[tranquil cargo]

golden ticket

you don't want to play gold cards anymore

I guess chad is the same really

[floral mural]

burglar shouldnt do anything here so that goes

i guess

[tranquil cargo]

I assume the intent is to naneinf in endless?

[night turret]

It was pair

[floral mural]

this is a weird ass build theres like 3 different equally viable picks for removing

[night turret]

But it looked like I didn’t have enough chips

[floral mural]

if so burglar is way too early

[ashen mauve]

Yeah.. but it’s so much fun to farm gold with the burgler giving me so many hands for the golden ticket😭

[unreal iron]

you can probably do it easily

[tranquil cargo]

actually wait, you're on erratic not plasma

[unreal iron]

oh

you lost

[night turret]

The one time my WiFi being ass saves me

[night turret]

I tried playing safe, even had 6 hands but just didn’t have enough chips

If it was any other bind, I might have won

[unreal iron]

odd todd is pretty mid if you dont have retriggers honestly

worst case scenario it does literally nothing

best case is 60 chips

[ashen mauve]

I doubt I’ll be able to get to Naninf. I’m not good enough to do it without a cryptid perkeo😂 plus I don’t have the deck fixing or high card levels to get there

But I like pushing to see how far I can get.

[unreal iron]

which is not a lot

[night turret]

I did have on the aces and the 9’s

[unreal iron]

what lvl was pair?

did you not get retrigger glass?

that seemed perfectly winnable

[floral mural]

odd todd is good early chips but later on i kinda dislike relying on it

[unreal iron]

yeah for sure

[night turret]

Lvl 2…

I opened mostly playing card decks

[unreal iron]

sooo you havent opened a SINGLE celestial pack?

in the WHOLE run?

[night turret]

I did like 6

[unreal iron]

blue seals?

hello?

[night turret]

But it only gave me pair 2 twice

[alpine basalt]

well well well....

[night turret]

And then the leg fucked it back to lvl 2

[unreal iron]

the leg

[floral mural]

and thats rhe issue. odd todd isnt reliable chips snd pair levels are

[night turret]

Or was it the arm

[unreal iron]

it is infact the arm

[twin lantern]

well yeah that's the idea lol but it's going kinda slow. i might finish the gold stacking without focusing too much on what jokers i'm playing first. then i'll try to get stickers on them using the checkered deck or something

[night turret]

I’m just trying again until I can get my hand size to 5

[unreal iron]

i like alternating between the decks for a lot of the stickers

[elfin seal]

eloo

[unreal iron]

i know from experience that trying to find or even use jokers can be wayyy different in a lot of decks

[warm haven]

Oh

[unreal iron]

like ive pulled off LOYALTY CARD on blue deck because of the extra hand + early grabber

[hasty harness]

only 4 more decks to gold sticker

[unreal iron]

1 in 7 for every card btw

[warm haven]

yeah

[warm haven]

its still around 1/500

[night turret]

Your brother Todd misses you

[twin lantern]

true that. i used the checkered deck as an example because i tend to win a lot on that one lol. it's super easy with flush builds

[unreal iron]

i do have a lot of wins on checkered deck tbf

its a nice shut off brain deck unless im up for some straight flush bs

in which case i do prefer abandoned/painted more

[willow frost]

yeah thats about 0.25%

insane

[twin lantern]

yeah currently trying to gold the abandoned one

some straight build should do

[unreal iron]

you can easily force straights on abandoned

[calm sapphire]

0.2% sir

[unreal iron]

but forcing =/= necessarily winning

[calm sapphire]

sir sir

its 0.2%

[unreal iron]

maybe you need to play pairs instead (again)

[willow frost]

you didnt see anything you saw absolutely nothing

[calm sapphire]

understandable

[willow frost]

thanks 👍

[night turret]

Invisible joker I love you

[willow frost]

negative rebate holy balls

[unreal iron]

drop ice cream

theres no point

you already have 2 squimbos

[night turret]

I will when I get a better mult

[unreal iron]

+8 per hand

you also have green joker...

[night turret]

Exactly

[unreal iron]

this is a win

genuine win

[night turret]

LETS FUCKING HOPE THIS PURPLE AIMT

[willow frost]

you can do it now to get an extra dollar of interest

[unreal iron]

dont mess this up i'd sell ice cream

and keep rebate because temperance value

[calm sapphire]

0.2098%

[night turret]

Wait popcorn is right there

[willow frost]

id keep negative rebate because its negative and rebate

[calm sapphire]

i wanted to know the exact chance

[night turret]

I’ll sell ice cream and get that

Thanks

[unreal iron]

green joker

[willow frost]

thats ok

[calm sapphire]

negative rebate sounds heavenly

[willow frost]

losing 1 mult for like $15 is a fair deal

to greatly understate it

[unreal iron]

true

[willow frost]

honestly why would you sell it anyway its not rental theres no detriment lol

[night turret]

Really thought the needle ficked me

Should I sell to get abstract

Sell popcorn

[hardy fable]

no, don't spend if you're not above interest cap yet

[night turret]

Well fuck

[unreal island]

Sell four fingers

[night turret]

I can’t

[whole osprey]

What hand are you playing each round

[unreal island]

[pale wolf]

pretty sure smiley goes

[unborn cliff]

smiley

[night turret]

Mostly flushes and straight

[unborn cliff]

its a yorick trust me

[night turret]

Along with two pair

Alright let’s see how this goes

ITS A BETTER SMILEY!

[unborn cliff]

[cloud sinew]

balatro

[night turret]

Don’t.

[cloud sinew]

i think trib might actually be worse than smiley there

ROUND 6 WHAT

[night turret]

Don’t ask

[cloud sinew]

why did you skip at least 3 times

[lunar zealot]

round 6 ante 4

moment

[night turret]

Blud is blind I see

[lunar zealot]

Don't fucking call me blud

[ivory sun]

may the plant never find you

[cloud sinew]

the proverbial white stake is "any stake below blue" basically

[unborn cliff]

you laugh you go to hell

[ivory sun]

diddy blud

[night turret]

Don’t call me a white chip when I ain’t on it

[lunar zealot]

then don't act like a white staker

[night turret]

Ah I understand

[alpine basalt]

whoa hard r

[lunar zealot]

get out

[ivory sun]

i like how it jiggles

[night turret]

Jeez

[alpine basalt]

lmao

[ivory sun]

whoops didn’t post at first

[cloud sinew]

me when loyalty card, trading card, DNA, invisible joker...

[ivory sun]

this

[twin lantern]

what's the slur for flush players

[lunar zealot]

bloodstoner?

[cerulean parcel]

What’s with the flush hate?

[ivory sun]

ooooooo neptune

scary hand

[cloud sinew]

Neptune my beloved

Jupiter my hatred

[alpine basalt]

lets see after 3 more days of doing stickers and one naneinf ante run, my top 10 jokers are now

[lunar zealot]

Jupiter fulfills its purpose

[twin lantern]

eh it's just the easiest hand to build your deck around

[gilded pine]

My shield of protection from the plant

[lunar zealot]

it's easy to deckfix for, easy to use early game and easy to use on low stakes

[cerulean parcel]

Therefore the best

[cloud sinew]

in that it is a planet card that provides some scaling, yes

[lunar zealot]

but that comes at the cost of beingggggg not goodddd

[ivory sun]

saturn scales a bit faster

[cerulean parcel]

Two pair

[cloud sinew]

"a bit" 3x as fast

[lunar zealot]

jupiter scales poorly and flush's synergies with jokers are a bit lackluster

[ivory sun]

uranus my beloved 2 pairs fun to play

[twin lantern]

...

[alpine basalt]

flush is just sad to compare against straight since runner exists

[cloud sinew]

runner isn't really a straights joker funnily enough, at least not in the way you're thinking

[lunar zealot]

oh nvm you're incapable of listening to constructive discussion

[alpine basalt]

well yeah but for winning runs

[cloud sinew]

Saturn has 2x faster chips scaling and 1.5x faster mult scaling

Saturn my beloved

[alpine basalt]

if there was a flush counterpart to runner then i'd probably weight straights and flushes close to the same

[twin lantern]

but it requires brain cells

[ivory sun]

photochad

looks inside stats

[lunar zealot]

what the fuck

[cloud sinew]

not that many runs tbf

[alpine basalt]

egg top 10

[lunar zealot]

it's fine but why photo above chad

[cloud sinew]

omelette challenge does that to you

[ivory sun]

stickered too

[lunar zealot]

that tells me you buy speculative photo

which you shouldn't be doing

[ivory sun]

real

[alpine basalt]

somehow soul is my second most used spectral card lmao

[cloud sinew]

at least not more than speculative chad

given that chad is MUCH less speculative

[cloud sinew]

seeded runs count

[alpine basalt]

true

but even in seeded runs I tend to only take 1, then open a shit ton of other spectral packs since any seeded run I do pretty much goes to ante 20+

So I wouldn't expect it to be almost at immolate level

[ivory sun]

these are just my mobile stats my pc stats are a bit different

[night turret]

Fuck I like spade but

I don’t know if its gonna be viable

[alpine basalt]

though I guess it makes sense since it comes in arcanas as well

[cloud sinew]

i would, especially considering you don't have trance in the top 10 at all but you have deja vu and soul in the top 3

[ivory sun]

i get an ungodly amount of immolations

[alpine basalt]

i'm a little shocked trance isnt up there tbh, been using it alot lately in my staking runs

i'd def expect it to be higher than incantation given I haven't taken incantation since I've started seriously playing

[lunar zealot]

I used to unironically take incantation and familiar

because 'enhanced cards are good! :D'

[alpine basalt]

I sometimes take familiar if I need early facecards

[ivory sun]

this is my pc save file

[alpine basalt]

but that tends to be when I have a choice between familiar and incantation

I see you play alot on spectral deck

ghost deck*

[ivory sun]

i love ghost deck it’s my favorite

[alpine basalt]

me personally i'm a plasma lover

[ivory sun]

plasma is almost a different game entirely it’s fun

[eager lynx]

my finishing lineup in getting the 4 jokers achievement

[eager lynx]

seltzer unfortunately passed away during the final battle

[tawny grove]

sell sock?

[formal trout]

It had heed its last haw

[alpine basalt]

whats lucky cat at?

[tawny grove]

3.25

4*

[alpine basalt]

then sell that

[eager lynx]

yea is that even a question

[tawny grove]

aight

[tawny grove]

im new sorry

[eager lynx]

4x vs 2x2x2x2

i mean cmon

[alpine basalt]

man that image confuses

2 eternal jokers on white stake

[tawny grove]

it's mad world

challenge

[alpine basalt]

ah

I forgot about that one

[unborn cliff]

thoughts on my wee

[alpine basalt]

thats a nice wee

[tawny grove]

which do i brain storm

[unborn cliff]

thanks

[autumn vector]

I just had a ghost deck run with NO spectral cards in the shop I got to like ante 7 because I

Got nothing

[alpine basalt]

if scoring then photo, if moneyfarming then sock

[tawny grove]

thanks

[fading cobalt]

This run is so peak

The synergy with blue seals is amazing

It got me tearing up

[pale wolf]

Nice blue seal

[fading cobalt]

And I got invis

[unborn cliff]

is the blue seal in the room with us

[fading cobalt]

I didn't get it on that round lol

[fading cobalt]

I GOT BARON

[zinc karma]

Bets?

[tawny grove]

do i replace anything with idol?

[nova mantle]

Blessed run holyy

Too bad the invis copied constellation

[fading cobalt]

Yeah mime would've been crazy innit

[red thistle]

It's big.

[nova mantle]

I was finna ask where's your mult and I saw plasma deck

[pale wolf]

sub 1k wee

[nova mantle]

Nice wee

[cloud sinew]

balatro

[pale wolf]

patetico

[red thistle]

Alarm going off in 6h my beloved.

[nova mantle]

Copying either blueprint or brainstorm is always better cuz of versatility

[fading cobalt]

True but still

[red thistle]

Preferably blueprint.

[nova mantle]

He has a good personality what's wrong with it

[pale wolf]

wee does nothing for my BBC

[nova mantle]

Ofc but they don't have blueprint in their build yet

[red thistle]

N64 fat pikachu.

[nova mantle]

Hope they get it soon tho

[hybrid tendon]

damn

didn't know I was bloodstone

hurts to learn that so late

19 years without knowing I was bloodstone...

[jagged pier]

Hi hello forks are for weak people

I eat everything with my spoon

Because im not weak

[pale wolf]

actually gyms are for weak people

[jagged pier]

Yes

Who needs special equipment to get strong??

Those who aren't strong in the first place

Back in my day we only had a pull up bar and it was enough to be strong

[jovial mica]

playing balatro without the music sounds so wrong
i didnt even know the blind icon made sound when you ran a cursor over it tho

[deft marten]

just had this really good run :) my best run ever!!

[hybrid tendon]

have you ever eaten soup with a fork ?

[jagged pier]

No, soup is where i use my hands

[jovial mica]

lmao wtf

[jagged pier]

Because soup is wee baby food

And does not deserve respect

Therefore no utensils

I hate soup

Hater out

[jovial mica]

WHAT

NAT BARON 1ST BUFFOON PACK???

[deft marten]

lock in

[robust lance]

Runs dead

[jovial mica]

i didnt pick anything yet btw im just on the selection screen

and i have another buffoon waiting for me

but it kills my econ

[hybrid tendon]

you're barbaric

[deft marten]

time for the wee joker pivot

[pale wolf]

I don't drink soup

nor do I eat it

[jovial mica]

i havent unlocked wee if its an unlockable

[pale wolf]

I get annoyed when people call ramen soup because I'm there for the noodles

[jagged pier]

And yro'ue are a wee baby that needs utensils to eat

[jovial mica]

if it isnt then my rng is shit

[jagged pier]

Wee is unlocked by being super awesome and skipping all but 12 blinds

[hybrid tendon]

nuh uh

[jagged pier]

Un huh

[robust lance]

All but 4 since you’re required to fight 8

[jovial mica]

i wish i was that insane with less than 100 hours under my belt [im on black deck]

[pale wolf]

every round is a blind not just the bosses

[robust lance]

Shuuusssshhhhhhh

[fading cobalt]

Omg the run got better I found a natural negative showman

[jovial mica]

holy shit

[jovial mica]

yh seeing this do i just restart the run lmfao

[jagged pier]

Sell for campfire value

[jovial mica]

this wont be worth continuing later since 2pair is a shit main and xmult this early is gonna spiral me

[half lantern]

I once got a nat negative stuntman first round plasma deck

[pale wolf]

no? the two pair joker is fine

[jagged pier]

Plasma deck is very bad

[tranquil cargo]

that's not affordable, right?

[pale wolf]

play til you die and try to survive til you cant

[jagged pier]

Plasma deck ate my son

And killed my wife

[jovial mica]

i could just buy and sell baron since i get my $4 back

right

[jagged pier]

Go full Jose

[half lantern]

You gotta get that completionist+ though man

[jagged pier]

A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A

I hate you

Here's your nemesis

A A A A A A A

[half lantern]

A is the worst letter by far

[jovial mica]

lm[]o
you took the [] well done

[half lantern]

He gets all the attention

[jagged pier]

Over what, you?

[half lantern]

Nah

[jagged pier]

Looser obsessed over itself

[jovial mica]

so i take 2pair joker and skip shop?

[pale wolf]

shut up, fifth glyph
your tyranny will not cling to this sanctuary

[jovial mica]

loser*

[half lantern]

D:

[jagged pier]

U are

[jovial mica]

fifth glyph is insane work

[pale wolf]

assuming you know of the subreddit fifth glyph where people avoid using the letter E at all costs

Good place

[jagged pier]

L*tter

(hard r)

[pale wolf]

blocking a fifth glyph is not a plus

[jovial mica]

its a drawback

now i could

[pale wolf]

it shall not quoth totally

[half lantern]

Wow imagine you had a whole community who's whole purpose was to ignore you, how would that make YOU feel

[fading cobalt]

Run died

[pale wolf]

i think you just suck, man

[fading cobalt]

BUT

[pale wolf]

[fading cobalt]

That was insanely amazing to play

[half lantern]

Nah, their jealous

[pale wolf]

fun exercise to not use a certain letter
they're*

[fading cobalt]

Like it was a baron build that just naturally happened so it felt amazing

I love ghost deck

[half lantern]

Fuck you

[jagged pier]

Hi hello but that is true you are an
E mbarrassment

[fading cobalt]

Woah man chill

[pale wolf]

you start with a fifth glyph on your own, dink

[jovial mica]

wtf is this conversation

fuck it im restarting my run

[jagged pier]

Wjat

[pale wolf]

i contain a glyph of a similar sort too, but you can pardon that

[fading cobalt]

@half lantern you better pump the hate brakes or I'll get D and F to come after you

[jagged pier]

Brobuddy even Q is more popular then your bumass

[half lantern]

D and F would never betray me, we been bros for life

[fading cobalt]

D and F told me they think you're an annoying neighbour

[jovial mica]

misprint this early

[jagged pier]

"most popular letter of the alphabet" my ass, you are just an annoying prick that slides into every conversation

[jovial mica]

is my balatro cracked today

[pale wolf]

your account's calling is of a similar starting to said wrathful glyph

[half lantern]

Woah, dude, I'm right here

[fading cobalt]

It slipped into this message 8 times

[jagged pier]

THAT'S WHAT IM TAKING ABOUT

[pale wolf]

misprint is alright

I wouldn't say it's something I would get excited over

[jagged pier]

Let's kill this Letta

[scarlet token]

Mime or sock and buskin?

[jovial mica]

its early plus mult though

[jagged pier]

Mime

[pale wolf]

mime no question

[fading cobalt]

Mime

[jovial mica]

i could sell it later if i come across summit or something

[half lantern]

IT? IT??? THAT IS WHAT YOU CALL ME? THIS IS AN OUTRAGE

[fading cobalt]

Mime and chad are my two favourite jokers hands down

[half lantern]

'IT' HAS A NAME

[abstract vapor]

Pass on bloodstone?

[jagged pier]

A mere object

No purpose but to serve

No service except for annoyance

[fading cobalt]

Woah man its 2025

You can't say that about letters anymore

[jagged pier]

Misery - is what your life entails

[jovial mica]

oh i got jimbo :]

[half lantern]

Yeah, that's too far man

[fading cobalt]

Hey I dont like you, I just can't stand letterism

Its not okay no matter who its directed to

[lone halo]

I'm-a-huntin wild poly 4s, can't score enough to win without one rn

[jagged pier]

Bro when greeks were carving ur ass they thought about a hairbrush

[jovial mica]

oh

[fading cobalt]

PEAK

My goat obelisk

[jagged pier]

OBLIKS 🗣️📣🔥🔥🔥💈

[jovial mica]

do i nab?

[half lantern]

You know, thou first letter is truly the one we should be destroying from our speech

[fading cobalt]

And its ante 2

[fading cobalt]

Yes bro

[pale wolf]

do you have a lot of planet levels

[fading cobalt]

Ante 2 obelisk is peak asf

[jagged pier]

YES YES OBLEBISKS

[jovial mica]

but i cant play pairs now

[lone halo]

flush lvl 5 that's about it

[jovial mica]

at least for now

[fading cobalt]

You play pairs then pivot to any other hand

[jagged pier]

OBELIST PLEASE LET ME BEAR YOUR CHILDREN

[fading cobalt]

Ez

[jovial mica]

:[

[jagged pier]

That's not bad at all

[jovial mica]

whats more reliable than a pair

high card???

[jagged pier]

Real

[barren wigeon]

high card

technically

[jovial mica]

well i better start popping plutos

[barren wigeon]

you can never not play a high card

[jovial mica]

does obelisk reset if i play a pair**

[tranquil cargo]

unless it's the psychic and you drew 4 pairs

[jagged pier]

I usually obelisk like that: flush->4OK->5OK

[jovial mica]

genuine question

[fading cobalt]

Well you would wanna play a mix of flushes, full house or straights cuz with obelisk scaling you can win with jokers rather than hands

[barren wigeon]

what's your most played hand

[jovial mica]

..pair

i didnt think id get obelisk

[barren wigeon]

so what do you think the answer is

[fading cobalt]

Send the balatro players cant read meme

[jovial mica]

says nothing here about resetting so

[half lantern]

'consecutive'

[jovial mica]

yeah but does scaling pause or just reset thats what im asking

[fading cobalt]

Reset

[barren fern]

It resets.

[coral egret]

It resets.

[jovial mica]

alr

[pale wolf]

yeah it's a flaw of ride the bus and obelisk that, unless told otherwise, you kind of have to find out about the resetting just by it happening

[jagged pier]

It kills u actually

Like irl kills u

[coral egret]

true

[jovial mica]

bruh what is this shop

[coral egret]

happened to me before

i dont recommend

[fading cobalt]

I'm a balatro player I have a comprehension skill issue

[jovial mica]

i need an econ joker i wish i had riffraff

[tranquil cargo]

it wouldn't be the first time a card called obelisk killed someone irl

[jagged pier]

IMMOLATE IN THE SPECTRAL PACK🗣️📣🔥🔥

[coral egret]

this is why i only play ride the bus in abandoned

cuz there's literally no point of playing it

when green joker exists

[fading cobalt]

You shut your goddamn mouth

[jovial mica]

oh!

[fading cobalt]

./nsrs

...

[coral egret]

you shut your mouth before i stuff actual pocket cards in your mouth

[jovial mica]

i wanna ignore the spectral so bad

[coral egret]

i can never pass on spectrals for some reason

[jovial mica]

or i just skip everything to get more money!

and pray i get temperance or some shit

[coral egret]

temperance 🤤🤤🤤🤤

[jovial mica]

and then theres the humble double money skip tag

abolutely not

id rather wait for temperance

[half lantern]

Y'all I just got to round 38 on just chips

[jovial mica]

jesus christ

[half lantern]

Lmao

[coral egret]

wee joker or stuntman call it

[pale wolf]

You don't get to choose, and resetting bus is a skill issue not rng

[half lantern]

You think stuntman can get to round 38?

[shell dagger]

3 plasma streak, 5 new stickers

[jovial mica]

ughhh

[lunar zealot]

Chat today is Die to VV Day

[shell dagger]

the final hand

[pale wolf]

they say it's impossible to streak plasma 10 times

[lunar zealot]

Send your builds that fucking die to violet vessel

[shell dagger]

It does sound hard

[half lantern]

6000 chips wee joker, blueprint, brainstorm, burglar

[shell dagger]

This run pivoted to mult from 3 foil jokers

Fist and earlyish yorick allowed it

[fading cobalt]

Kami... Did you happen to die to vv today?

[half lantern]

I can't believe I used to think plasma deck was the easiest deck

[lunar zealot]

nah today is just Die to VV Day

[coral egret]

what did u have

[jovial mica]

????

[tranquil cargo]

instructions unclear, killed VV

[half lantern]

A really big wee

[jovial mica]

do i discard lower 5

[pale wolf]

feb the 13th is st violetvessel day

[coral egret]

awesome dude

[half lantern]

And also a blueprint, brainstorm and burglar

And anaglyph + petroglyph

[coral egret]

how many chips per hand

WHAT

[half lantern]

NOOO

[lunar zealot]

I'll start