🕹・game-discussion

[nova junco]

But you can sell the planets for money though

That's why astronomer is also so op

[abstract light]

oml help 😭

[terse dock]

astronomer isnt op

[abstract light]

i dont remember any shit about balatro 😭

[acoustic kettle]

No spoler

[vale shale]

Try ||arrowhead||

[nova junco]

I love when I say the stupidest possible combination of words created by mankind and people take me seriously

[vale shale]

Wait is thst 6 dollars.

[abstract light]

its not +chip btw

[vale shale]

Nonetheless we gotta see the ability

[abstract light]

tried castle

[acoustic kettle]

Activate windows

Clearly

[terse dock]

all of the suit jokers are 7

[vale shale]

||onyx agate||? Maybe?

[nova junco]

New 1.1 joker

[vale shale]

Oh

[abstract light]

not +mult

tried fib

and its 7$ 😭

[nova junco]

+11 mult if you have windows 11, +17 chips if apple

[abstract light]

FUCK 😭

[terse dock]

in 4

[nova junco]

Crashes the game if you have linux #1187936299655647313

[abstract light]

I THINK IT HACK BUT I CHOOSE OTHER BRO 😭

[autumn forge]

Holy shit, clutch find

I'm still in this

[abstract light]

imagine missclick sell the ahh right most joker i forgot name 😭

[vale shale]

Constipation

[turbid reef]

Easiest gold stake run yet

[abstract light]

as i rememmber,its wrong

constellation ig

[autumn forge]

Constellation? Honestly probably would still be fine

[abstract light]

.

[acoustic kettle]

Constipation jonkler

[grave magnet]

If I got that from my diamond flush run, oh that would be so good.

[abstract light]

so im wrong when i dont remember any shit about ts game.

[autumn forge]

X2 from the idol for each card beats my x5

[abstract light]

ye u can still survive by idol

[autumn forge]

ASSUMING idol is on

[abstract light]

except its drop to the card u only have 1 in deck-

[autumn forge]

Decks like 90% jack of clubs

[abstract light]

.

[autumn forge]

But it could still miss

[abstract light]

nah i aint trust ur luck

[jovial mica]

well

[abstract light]

.

[nova junco]

Nice

[abstract light]

thats how peak ancient is-

[nova junco]

Just pay attention to suit boss blinds

[jovial mica]

nevermind

[abstract light]

.

vor-\

vro.

[jovial mica]

THE HUMBLE HEAD

[nova junco]

LMAO

[abstract light]

😭

[jovial mica]

AHHAA

[nova junco]

Misprint carries trust

[acoustic kettle]

Should've skipped bb

[abstract light]

misprint gonna save u

trust

😭

[vale shale]

You have misprint it's fine.

[nova junco]

Nah they can win ante 1 boss blind even without ancient

[vale shale]

It's just 600

[abstract light]

imagine 4x +0 😭

[jovial mica]

AND I HAVE A HEART FLUSH SITTING THERE

[nova junco]

Probably a heart flush would win anyways lmao

[abstract light]

LOL

😭

😭

[jovial mica]

bROOOOO

[nova junco]

As I just said it might even win on its own

[jovial mica]

ITS DEBUFFED

[nova junco]

PLAY THE FLUFH

[abstract light]

💔 😭

XD

PLAY IT

TRUST

[nova junco]

TRUST THE BALATRO

[pale wolf]

who cares if it's debuffed you have an average of 11 mult from misprint you're completely fine

[abstract light]

fr

[nova junco]

Trust the process

[pale wolf]

can we just like think about the numbers we're talking about here

[jovial mica]

so play the flush

[obsidian patrol]

No

[abstract light]

imagine he got +0;-;

[acoustic kettle]

4 hands

[sly coral]

that never happens

[abstract light]

4x +0;-;

[nova junco]

Yes, misprint might give you enough mult to win

[acoustic kettle]

Imagine if it hits +0 on all though

Never happens

But funny

[jovial mica]

it gave me 2

[nova junco]

RIP

[jovial mica]

close enough

[abstract light]

what if it do;)

[pale wolf]

and so now you just need like a pair to win

[abstract light]

1 more

just a single highcard is enough if ur luck good

[nova junco]

One more hand

[sly coral]

it never happened before so idk

[acoustic kettle]

I never trust misprint

Honestly

[jovial mica]

played pair gave me +12

[pale wolf]

You can trust misprint in aggregate mostly

[jovial mica]

now i got popcorn

[pale wolf]

You can't count on it for a single big scoring hand but over multiple hands it's fine

[jovial mica]

if i get riffraff im taking it

[acoustic kettle]

Oa6 buffing misprint would be nice

[abstract light]

it did for me;-;

[acoustic kettle]

[autumn forge]

Aaaaaaand immediately punished

Gg

[jovial mica]

gg

[vale shale]

You have 43 dollars.

Dr. Bones.

[vale shale]

Dr. Bones.

Dr. Bones.

[vernal bay]

IM SO GODDAMN GOOD AT THIS GAME

[autumn forge]

Now I have 4 dollars

[sly coral]

lower ur crt to 70

[autumn forge]

But I did get a judgement lol

[vernal bay]

That's two legendary joker's gold stickered in a single session

[autumn forge]

Time to roll the dice

[abstract light]

time to backread every @edgy dawn msg since i lost that account 😭

[jovial mica]

done

[sly coral]

thats the best if u like the crt

[jovial mica]

question is
do i get popcorn for early game

[vernal bay]

Dude did you say you were 12 or sumthin

[nova junco]

No you have ancient

[jovial mica]

????

[abstract light]

idfr but read that account bio...

[nova junco]

Ancient triggers with cards, before jokers and before popcorn, so save your money to get jupiters

[vernal bay]

Yeah I did

[abstract light]

yez

[vale shale]

8th grade isn't below 13 years old.

[abstract light]

.

i said it 1 year ago tho

.

[vernal bay]

But grade 6 isnt?

[vale shale]

Grade 6 is doe.

[abstract light]

.

[jovial mica]

grade 8 is 13-14 btw

[abstract light]

ye

[acoustic kettle]

Grade 6 is like 6th graders old idk

[abstract light]

i join ts server while im 6

[acoustic kettle]

[vernal bay]

Lmao, @abstract light word of advice, don't freely give out your age

[autumn forge]

Yo guys I can make flushes with only 4 cards

[abstract light]

vro its the samme;-;

[autumn forge]

The runs saved 🎉

[abstract light]

tbh,idrc

.

[vernal bay]

Tbh that's a fucking stupid attitude to have

[acoustic kettle]

Bannable

Btw

[jovial mica]

oooooo

this is with misprint and ancient btw

[nova junco]

Omg 2 4 6 8 10 straight

[jovial mica]

do i take

i have $14

[vale shale]

No

[nova junco]

Even Steven I think yes, shortcut is for straight so no

[acoustic kettle]

Strush

[autumn forge]

Gg. Important thing is I FINALLY unlocked the last joker

[jovial mica]

gg

[autumn forge]

So I can stop playing white stake now

[nova junco]

I'd take even steven then play flushes with even ranked cards

Also the even cards go first before the others because of the x mult

[acoustic kettle]

I would take shortcut bc it is goated like that

[nova junco]

I think the priority is getting levels in flush

[vale shale]

I would take standard pack because ourple seal.

[grave magnet]

please help me

[vernal bay]

Oh that was a joke lmao

I'm ok at the game

I got the two hardest decks out of the way first on purpose

[grave magnet]

ive now had 2 attempts where i am just on the cusp of ante 8 and i fail

[ocean lily]

does glass card breaking count for canio

[nova junco]

Why would you do that to yourself

[nova junco]

Yes

[acoustic kettle]

Ye

[ocean lily]

ty

[vernal bay]

I'm trying to get C, C+, and C++ all in the same run

[nova junco]

What the f

[vale shale]

That reminds me.

I don't have C yet.

I have C+ and C++

But not C.

[nova junco]

LMAO

[acoustic kettle]

I'm going c++ in only plasma

[vernal bay]

Why

Plasma sucks

[acoustic kettle]

Fuck you

[vernal bay]

<3

[acoustic kettle]

Plasma my baby

[vernal bay]

Red card is goated tho...

[grave magnet]

facts

[vernal bay]

Much better than supernova, which is vastly overrated

[vale shale]

💔

Supernova isn't overrated

It's actually well rated

[vernal bay]

Mhm, what would you rate it then

Because it's B tier to me

[nova junco]

NOOOOOOO THE DOOMED YURI

[vale shale]

It's like B+ for me

It can be a run saver sometimes.

[acoustic kettle]

Best +mult will always be bus

[jovial mica]

well hello

[grave magnet]

red card allows me to feel better about skipping ppacks

[ocean lily]

on a scale of 1-😩 , how many synegries does this setup have

[nova junco]

Is it still the ancient run?

[jovial mica]

mhm

[nova junco]

😩++

[tardy spade]

just need a sock and a trading card now

although....
Canio is antisynergistic with photograph

since you're destroying the face cards you want to play

[vernal bay]

THIS is doomed yuri

[ocean lily]

but paradolea

[jovial mica]

AUGH

[nova junco]

Bp will be back

[vernal bay]

Reincarnation yuri?

[nova junco]

Yes I guess

If that's what ur into

[vernal bay]

I read a LN with that once...

[nova junco]

What's a LN

[vernal bay]

Light Novel

[cloud sinew]

trousers >
red card >

[jovial mica]

so do i take this with the ancient and misprint that i have [oh and steven]

[turbid reef]

Which tier is 8 ball

[vernal bay]

F

[cloud sinew]

C-

[vernal bay]

It's SO bad

[jovial mica]

e?

[cloud sinew]

F is almost unusable / detrimental.
8ball is absolutely not unusable and very rarely detrimental

[vernal bay]

No, even with a full deck fixed and an oops it's still a never use

[vale shale]

Watch your words.

[vernal bay]

Two tarots is genuinely awful for the amount of effort it takes to get them

[obsidian patrol]

The amount of effort is playing a pair of 8s

[cloud sinew]

me when I lie:

[vale shale]

You know what's detrimental and unusable

Showman

[vernal bay]

Me when 1/4 is 1/4

[cloud sinew]

and so you'll get a tarot every 4 8's scored, on average.

[ocean lily]

NKJLCYTM seed if anyone wants, i forgor when i got canio

[obsidian patrol]

Tarot generation is still not detrimental

[jovial mica]

WHAT

[vernal bay]

So going through your ENTIRE base deck in to find all the 8's is worse than a cardomancer

[jovial mica]

MISPRINT PLEASE SAVE ME

[ocean lily]

i died on ante 6 cus i forgor to reroll the face cards drawn down blind

[nova junco]

It can get complicated to use so if you think you can always win in one hand then yes

[cloud sinew]

being worse than a cartomancer doesn't mean it's useless and detrimental

[nova junco]

Bruh😭

[turbid reef]

8ball should be buffed by spawning negative tarot cards instead of an odds increase imo. 8ball would be the only tarot card generator that would scale like crazy

[cloud sinew]

no thanks

[nova junco]

You should have skipped the big blind

[obsidian patrol]

Crazy concept to some people

[cloud sinew]

this would just mean you can tarot loop with 8ball, that would be so boring

[nova junco]

Wait thats-

[acoustic kettle]

Negative consumable should be a thing to more jokers though

[cloud sinew]

absolutely not

[jovial mica]

genuinely unsure on what to do

[cloud sinew]

open the mega

[obsidian patrol]

makes perkeo feel less legendary

[nova junco]

Which blind is next?

[turbid reef]

Vagabond will save you

[grave magnet]

the BUFFOONNN

[jovial mica]

boss

[nova junco]

Shit

[jovial mica]

.

[nova junco]

Get vagabond I guess

[cloud sinew]

No

I wouldn't take vagabond here

[vale shale]

Get the mega buffoon

[turbid reef]

No I was joking don’t get vagabond lol

[vernal bay]

There is no joker in this game that is actively detrimental though except showman, so there's not really any reason to saw that

[jovial mica]

okk lemme open the buffoon

[acoustic kettle]

I hate perkeo

[cloud sinew]

you win A2 with steven, you don't need vagabond

[acoustic kettle]

He is hiding from me

[turbid reef]

Mega Buffon is the only thing you can do

[cloud sinew]

a lot of jokers can be detrimental

[jovial mica]

idk what they do yet]

[vale shale]

Goated

[cloud sinew]

blue and lusty

[turbid reef]

Poly hearts will save you

[vernal bay]

Really? tell me then

[turbid reef]

Get hearts and the chip maker

[nova junco]

The heart one gives mult for each heart card you play it's pretty good

[jovial mica]

lusty being the rainbow one rn right?

[vale shale]

See I was gonna say cola 🥀

[turbid reef]

Yeah

Rainbow and blue

You should def win

[jovial mica]

now how do i reorder this

[cloud sinew]

splash:
vagabond:
8ball:
pareidolia:
4fingers:
madness:
shortcut:
marble joker:
and that's not even all of them

[turbid reef]

Looking at it again. Wouldn’t have misprint been enough for this anyways

I don’t think they needed the Buffon pack at all

[cloud sinew]

you don't need to

[jovial mica]

not always
what if its +0

it isnt guaranteed

[cloud sinew]

it was the optimal play regardless

[vernal bay]

No, no, no, yes, no, yes, no, yes.

[nova junco]

It's fine like that

[nova junco]

At least right now

[cloud sinew]

do you need me to explain how each one can be detrimental?

[jovial mica]

again, ancient is favouring spade and spades are debuffed in the next blind anyways

[grave magnet]

this motha fuckin rng. NOW I get greedy joker?? when i'm half-way there??

[jovial mica]

yayyyyyy

[nova junco]

Now any hearts flush should win

[jovial mica]

yh

[vestal fern]

why is vagabond detrimental?

[turbid reef]

You need to have less than 5 money to use

So you don’t get interest

[jovial mica]

4 hearts rn and 4 diamonds
do i discard all diamonds

[cloud sinew]

• splash can be detrimental if you have glass but you don't want it to break, also ride the bus and faces
• vagabond can be detrimental if you have blue seals
• 8ball can be detrimental if you have blue seals
• parei can be detrimental because of bus, The Mark, and The Plant
  ...

[cloud sinew]

it can be because of blue seals

[nova junco]

@jovial mica next antes(and with ancient in general) always check the boss blind for suit debuffs, if it is one of them and ancient did not choose the same suit before playing the big blind you can skip it and go straight to the boss

[vestal fern]

oh, true.

[jovial mica]

alright noted

i have one discard left

[vestal fern]

why isn't showman here

[cloud sinew]

BECAUSE I AM NOT COVERING EVERY JOKER

[jovial mica]

wishing i had 4 fingers rn

[cloud sinew]

"and that's not even all of them"

[turbid reef]

How is showman detrimental?

[cloud sinew]

also they already agreed with showman

[cloud sinew]

You can't block things from appearing

[vestal fern]

and bloats booster packs, don't forget about that.

[acoustic kettle]

Every legendary has a more common equivalent other than perkeo

So

Negative consumable joker when

[jovial mica]

i just noticed my straight
i dont wanna play it tho

not enough heart cards

[cloud sinew]

that's not an "and", that's just a consequence of not blocking things from appearing

[nova junco]

Perkeo 8 ball smh

[obsidian patrol]

yorick?

[nova junco]

Damn

[obsidian patrol]

canio?

[nova junco]

How many hands do you have?

[vestal fern]

hit the road

[jovial mica]

might discard the diamonds and pray for a heart

[cloud sinew]

this just isn't true

[jovial mica]

still 3

[vestal fern]

erosion/glass joker

[grave magnet]

hey, i'm just now starting out this run, which has better scaling??

[turbid reef]

They are just xmult jokers

[acoustic kettle]

Yorick htr
Canio glass joker

[jovial mica]

ive been discarding for hearts

[nova junco]

Then play one of them as if it was a discard

[obsidian patrol]

i guess

[vernal bay]

Splash can literally only be detrimental if you're playing with a deck full of glass and are going through your deck to find a certain card and run out of discards. Vagabond is not detrimental, that is you not knowing when to get out of him and start buidling econ. 8 ball is literally not detrimental at all unless you considere hard pivoting to it to be detrimental, but that's not detrimental. Paredolia, boss blinds. 4 fingers, your two pair is leveled higher than your flush. Madness, destroys your jokers. Shortcut, makes literally no sense as detrimental. Marble joker isn't even that bad, but yeah, I guess if you have erosion it can be detrimental.

[acoustic kettle]

Trib has photo

[cloud sinew]

HTR is just not equivalent to Yorick at all

[valid abyss]

sometimes

[jovial mica]

play the diamonds?

[valid abyss]

i balatro

[acoustic kettle]

I mean yorick can be castle too

[thorn dew]

showman is good for like 2 things and it can be detrimental the rest of the time you have it

[cloud sinew]

okay so you just don't understand what I'm talking about, gotcha

[nova junco]

Yes, since you will win in one hand then you can use the extra hands to find your flush

[nova junco]

Yea

[vernal bay]

Fuck off lmao

[jovial mica]

HOLY HELL you were right

[cloud sinew]

I even gave multiple examples for splash; one of them was Ride the Bus.
Splash can be detrimental with Ride the Bus because you cant play faces

[jovial mica]

im underestimating the power i hold

[nova junco]

I mean no joker can be detrimental if you know when not to take it

[jovial mica]

and i havent even taken planet cards

do i even need to atp

[obsidian patrol]

8 Ball discussion cannot be this serious

[nova junco]

Absolutely

Get jupiter

[jovial mica]

WAH

[grave magnet]

GAH DAYUM! I get splash and ice cream from riff-raff going into my big blind

[vernal bay]

This is also true, it's not like sts where literally every card has a possible downside

[nova junco]

How much did you score?

[jovial mica]

3k?

[vale shale]

They're still classified as detrimental if you don't take it. That's why they're called detrimental.

[jovial mica]

low 3k

[cloud sinew]

yes it does actually...

[nova junco]

That's good

[vernal bay]

blueprint

[cloud sinew]

every single joker has a possible downside

[jovial mica]

do i take paintbrush

[nova junco]

Honestly you just gotta get some planets and a retrigger joker

[obsidian patrol]

oh yeah? Even Jimble

[jovial mica]

oh true

[cloud sinew]

overscoring

[vernal bay]

Yeah because scoring too much is SUCH a big deal

[nova junco]

If you have money yes if not wait until the big blind

[obsidian patrol]

It is??

[cloud sinew]

it is for scaling jokers, yes

[obsidian patrol]

Okay

[jovial mica]

$12

[nova junco]

I'd wait

[jovial mica]

ok

[barren fern]

Almost every joker has a possible downside, but even the ones that you consider to be detrimental can be good in the right situation.

[vernal bay]

One hand is not that large of a difference

[obsidian patrol]

Usually you do wanna not score that much for your scaling jokers

[cloud sinew]

scoring too much means you can't spend more hands to scale jokers, so yes

[vale shale]

This is actually true and right

[grave magnet]

hey guys? i know y'all are arguing but can i get some help?

[vernal bay]

And that literally means scaling jokers have anti-synergy with themselves

[obsidian patrol]

If you are winning in 1 hand you are losing something like 3 mult per round

[jovial mica]

WGAT

[cloud sinew]

ancient and michel

[cloud sinew]

lusty should be left of ancient joker

[jovial mica]

ancient and michel.

[obsidian patrol]

Always talking about some synergy

[grave magnet]

ok so i know which one is ancient but which one is michel

[jovial mica]

so in the middle

[nova junco]

That's a pretty good pack I can't really see any "correct" choice, since you already have riff raff

Ancient joker is the best one out of them all but you gotta be a little careful

[jovial mica]

banana

[jovial mica]

$19 now

do i nab

[vernal bay]

Then don't win in one hand?

[nova junco]

Btw do you know how interest works

[jovial mica]

throw something shitty first then something winning later

[cloud sinew]

??? are you stupid
if you score too much from chips and mult from jokers, there's nothing you can do besides selling jokers to minimise score

[spring bough]

First gold stake win! :3

[obsidian patrol]

????????????

[jovial mica]

id like to answer yes but i barely passed maths

[vernal bay]

You can literally play worse hands or reposition jokers

[obsidian patrol]

That is the entire downside of overscoring

[cloud sinew]

repositioning jokers doesn't matter if you don't have blueprint/bs or xmult (ex. dagger)

[nova junco]

You get 1 extra dollar every round for every $5 you have saved up (up to $25)

[jovial mica]

i could save the 19 tbf

[nova junco]

So you should try to stay over it

[jovial mica]

so ill save the money

[nova junco]

But absolutely get the paintbrush before entering the boss

[vernal bay]

or polychrome. You also literally just told someone to put lusty before ancient joker to maximise scoring.

[jovial mica]

im ab to enter big blind

[cloud sinew]

you literally can not always play worse hands
if I have +250 chips and +10 mult from jokers, there is NO WAY to score less than 2500

[cloud sinew]

polychrome is xmult

[jovial mica]

so after big blind ill get it

[cloud sinew]

??? THEY DONT HAVE ANY SCALING JOKERS

[obsidian patrol]

Only for genius

[vernal bay]

You are getting way too upset lmao. I'm not calling you a hypocrite, I'm jsut sayong there's more than two scenarios where that's possible

[vestal fern]

why overscoring is bad in extremely simple terms

😃 wants to scale 🟩🃏, but thanks to 🎴 he beats the round early.

😃 then dies a few antes later because 🟩🃏 hasn't scaled enough

inorder to not overscore, 😃 moves 🟦📄 to copy 🟩🃏, and moves 👕🕶️ (Card Sharp, his only xmult) to the left to minimize score, and instead of playing Pairs, he plays High Card

thanks for showing up at my presentation.

[cloud sinew]

wtf are you talking about

[obsidian patrol]

Actually just typing nothing

[vestal fern]

I had to bring the emojis and everything to make this as simple to understand as possible

[jovial mica]

nyehhhh

[vernal bay]

Except that planets are a huge part of scaling along with making sure that your actual playing cards are in a correct order.

[cloud sinew]

in the scenario I just said, there is no way to score less than 2500

You're arguing in bad faith

[jovial mica]

im not even following yalls argument just lemme play my ancient run /nm

[dreamy creek]

h

[nova junco]

One more thing even if you're def scoring enough

If you have even ranked cards in your flush you can put them before the others so that all the X1.5 from ancient covers the mult from even steven and so you score more

[vernal bay]

Wow and beyond ante 3 that's not enough to win in one hand

[jovial mica]

before being where in the lineup?

[vernal bay]

I'm not arguing in fucking bad faith, you just refuse to see anything I say as reasonable

[jovial mica]

if i had 2 faces and 3 numbers would the numbers go in front

[dreamy creek]

the humble rng:

[obsidian patrol]

I just dont think you have a decent understanding of the videogame Balatro

[cloud sinew]

because you aren't making any sense. You're saying that it's not detrimental, when I'm giving you a specific scenario where overscoring IS detrimental

[pale wolf]

aj is xmult

[vestal fern]

I was gonna include Hit the Road on this example as an example for XMult before i realized it wouldn't even have a place on this build

[dreamy creek]

hit the road is goated

[jovial mica]

what do i do here

[dreamy creek]

reroll for natural negative blueprint

[cloud sinew]

swap misprint for trading card, swap lusty for golden joker

[nova junco]

Uhhhhhh like this

[vestal fern]

on this example it wouldn't be good because it goes against Green Joker's principles

[nova junco]

You'll get it by playing the game

[jovial mica]

but lusty is polychrome

that x mult is useful
plus i have 6 joker slots

[cloud sinew]

a single 1.5x is not worth keeping over trading/golden

[cloud sinew]

this is true

just swap misprint

[vernal bay]

And I think it's stupid to say that because then every scoring joker is bad with every scaling joker, which means scaling jokers are detrimental to scaling jokers. It makes no sense to say that.

[nova junco]

Misprint for trading is a great choice here

[jovial mica]

i can replace misprinty AND- yeah

[nova junco]

Then just get gold

[cloud sinew]

it does make sense though. they CAN be detrimental.

[cloud sinew]

sorry for breaking your world view ig? facts don't care about your feelings

[pale wolf]

so I scrolled back and in this conversation started with somebody stating that not every joker can be detrimental
which isnt true

[nova junco]

w h a t

[obsidian patrol]

yall need to stop thinking about "synergy" and "anti-synergy"

[cloud sinew]

^

[pale wolf]

if you have a scaling Joker, and taking a flat scoring Joker will make you play less hands in order to scale the scaling Joker, it is detrimental to your gameplay.

That's just straight logic

I don't know how you can argue against that

[vernal bay]

lmao, as if you could say anything about my skill at the game

[vestal fern]

"use Photograph or turn into an adult tripod fish?"

me:

[nova junco]

Every joker can be detrimental if you buy it ante 1 and kill your econ

[jovial mica]

wrathful istg i dont need that

[cloud sinew]

wrong

[obsidian patrol]

Why do you say that

[acoustic kettle]

Ngl guys i don't even know what detrimental means

[vernal bay]

Why did you say the comment I replied to

[pale wolf]

rebate can definitely be detrimental if you bottom deck the rank it chooses every round til you die

[pale wolf]

The opposite of beneficial

[jovial mica]

it can ruin things

[nova junco]

Holy shit get the photograph

[cloud sinew]

sure but I'm not arguing every joker is good then, I'm arguing that not every joker is bad then.

[pale wolf]

benefits and detriments

[jovial mica]

and sell what

[cloud sinew]

riff-raff, for example

[cloud sinew]

lusty

[obsidian patrol]

I think you should calm down a bit

[vernal bay]

That's not detrimental. That's bad rng unrelated to rebate

[nova junco]

Honestly anything but maybe even Steven is the one that goes

[nova junco]

Because it's the only flat mult you have

[vernal bay]

I am calm, what are you saying?

[nova junco]

Lusty too but at least it's poly

[jovial mica]

my image wont send hang on

there we go

[ivory sun]

behold synergy

[pale wolf]

It's just the probability of low rolling that many times is pretty low with rebate, but it still has the small potential to be a strict net negative

I don't think that's really relevant though yeah

[vernal bay]

I just don't like people going into Ad hominem arguments

[nova junco]

Noooooo rainbow lusty

[vestal fern]

wait if every joker is detrimental how about Mr. Bones?

[vernal bay]

It's not pretty low, I'd say the odds of you not getting back your initial investment ($5 right?) within three rounds are astronomically low

[acoustic kettle]

Boning

[zinc karma]

I legit wanna know why pants keep showing on every run in ALL my nebula runs

[nova junco]

Getting Jimbo and credit card every round

[vestal fern]

the only downside i see for him is him occupying a joker slot, that's it.

[pale wolf]

yeah you really made a point there

[jovial mica]

AHAAH

[pale wolf]

🙄

[cloud sinew]

"Marble joker isn't even that bad... I guess if you have erosion it can be detrimental"
adding stones to your deck is detrimental a lot of the time already; it's deck bloat and those cards can't trigger on-score jokers unless you have parei

[vernal bay]

So did you, christ.

[jovial mica]

sell even steven maybe

[cloud sinew]

they also don't contribute to poker hand evaluation

[pale wolf]

Splash can be detrimental when you're not trying to play certain cards, like with ride the bus

it removes the option to throw away dead cards

[nova junco]

My reasoning here would be selling even Steven, because you don't really need even Steven for scoring but you could use the hand size to get your hand more consistently + whatever other held in hand effect

[jovial mica]

yah

[acoustic kettle]

When is splash beneficial anyway

[pale wolf]

when you want to play specific cards

[vernal bay]

Except that stone cards are the most underrated enhancement in the game

[cloud sinew]

flowerpot, seeing double, glass joker, lucky cat, etc

[pale wolf]

like the opposite of ride the bus

[cloud sinew]

???

[quartz flicker]

ts is why black deck the real goat

[vernal bay]

It turns what would be deck bloat into actual useful scoring

[vestal fern]

that seeded run🔥

[acoustic kettle]

Marble is just deck bloat

[jovial mica]

and currently ancient is at spade

[cloud sinew]

it's not actually useful scoring if I'm playing 5 card poker hands

[jovial mica]

aaaaaaaaa

[pale wolf]

it depends if you're talking about Marble Joker or Tower stones

[quartz flicker]

not seeded

[jovial mica]

do i skip big blind

[pale wolf]

I think marble Joker is almost strictly bloat except in the case of hologram and stone joker

[jovial mica]

so i keep ancient at spade

[nova junco]

Yes

[pale wolf]

Tower stones are pretty good though

[nova junco]

Do that

[cloud sinew]

Yes

[vernal bay]

Tower is the most underrated arcana in the game

[pale wolf]

where do you rank it then

[nova junco]

If it gets clubs then you're actually screwed this time so

[vernal bay]

I didn't say best

[cloud sinew]

doesn't mean it's good

[acoustic kettle]

Stone is not that good

[cloud sinew]

tower is bottom 5 for sure

[pale wolf]

I would never even imply

[jovial mica]

i already took a jupiter

[vernal bay]

You underrate it

[ivory sun]

synergy fans will love this one

[cloud sinew]

I don't at all

how do I underrate it?

[pale wolf]

which tarot cards is Tower better than

[heady raptor]

wronf server

[acoustic kettle]

Wheel

[cloud sinew]

lovers, sun, star, uhhh

[acoustic kettle]

Lovers yeag

[cloud sinew]

honestly yeah that's it

[pale wolf]

for me its like, lovers, sun, star,

[nova junco]

There's reasons to take mars or mercury but probably mercury is the best pick just if you're throwing away hands and it help you score a little bit more?

[pale wolf]

uuuh

[cloud sinew]

real

[pale wolf]

Wait you literally said the exact same words as me

[jovial mica]

i have 6 hearts LMAO playing that shit

[obsidian patrol]

Wheel goat?

[pale wolf]

we are not unique individuals

[acoustic kettle]

I see more uses for suit tarots than tower

[ivory sun]

magician the moon

[nova junco]

Depends tower can be very good depending on your jokers

[pale wolf]

The black suit tarots have more value because of blackboard and the gem jokers being better on the black suits

[floral mural]

black suits are generally better and magician is fine

[acoustic kettle]

I love me my rough gem

[jovial mica]

ok

[nova junco]

But bloodstone

[pale wolf]

naah the moon is the best suit changer and magician gives lucky cards which give $1.3 per score

[jovial mica]

do i sell trading card

[acoustic kettle]

Worst gem joker

[jovial mica]

i already have golden

[nova junco]

Yes

[turbid reef]

What is a fun deck to beat on gold stake

[pale wolf]

considering that magician gives you two lucky cards and devil only gives you one gold card, it's a comparison worth making

[vernal bay]

High Priestess (Unless you have campfire or constellation), lovers, heirophant, empress, wheel, the four suits, strength, and judgement.

[jovial mica]

i need that discard joker aaa

[nova junco]

Trading card is usually op and you should almost never get rid of it but with ancient you need to keep cards of all suits so it's less good

[obsidian patrol]

Okay lol

[jovial mica]

BUT
droll.

[floral mural]

i still will always prefer devil but thats because of consistency

[jovial mica]

i cant have both

[acoustic kettle]

High priestess is a great way to make money back if your pack misses

[pale wolf]

yeah it's definitely better to have the $3 consolidated into one card rather than 2.6 spread out between multiple

[turbid reef]

It’s still free Econ aslong as they remove equal amount of cards from each suit.

[nova junco]

Aren't you scoring like mult in the 100s lmao what's 10 mult gonna do

[jovial mica]

my run is fried

[floral mural]

also stone cards if not used to block face cards for bus or block ranks for rebate or idol are generally only good for spam hands

[nova junco]

No

Why would it

Be

[floral mural]

since youre not removing a card

[pale wolf]

with ancient Joker you want to reduce your deck size equally among all suits, not just keep your deck the exact same size

[vernal bay]

Wow really? Then its still worse at not having opened the pack at all

[jovial mica]

i wont be able to score flushes if idk what my cards are

[cloud sinew]

okay?

[vernal bay]

And spam hands are the meta

[pale wolf]

High priestess has a lot of utility because it gives you two random planet cards, which you can then use to block slots for planet packs or re-rolling

[acoustic kettle]

Or just sell for money back

[pale wolf]

and yeah it's like the third best option for money back

[barren wigeon]

or for consteGOAT

[jovial mica]

so sell trading card for the discard joker

[cloud sinew]

JUDGEMENT!? You're insane
You don't play gold stake enough

[floral mural]

the only terrible tarot imo is lovers

[nova junco]

Face down ≠ doesnt exist anymore
You can tell which suit a card is because it's still ordered correctly despite being face down

[cloud sinew]

Judgement gives stickerless jokers

[turbid reef]

Insane judgement pull

[acoustic kettle]

Lovers is so bad

[vernal bay]

JUDGEMENT ISNT GOOD OUT OF THE FIRST TWO ANTES

[nova junco]

I guess you could also sell golden or juggler

[barren wigeon]

not the suits, not strength, not wheel, not empress, not priestess, not judgement

[pale wolf]

interesting

[cloud sinew]

this just isn't true at all

[obsidian patrol]

Only for genius

[jovial mica]

juggler allows me to find my hand quicker

[acoustic kettle]

Judgment is free jokers

[cloud sinew]

I pivot very regularly at gold stake, judgment is a good part of that

[vernal bay]

Stickerless 8-ball, how quaint.

[barren wigeon]

aka FREE MONEY

[acoustic kettle]

Free stickerless jokers

[jovial mica]

paired with discard joker it could be even faster

[pale wolf]

Not a terrible hit honestly

[cloud sinew]

arguing in bad faith be damned

[pale wolf]

could be worse

[cloud sinew]

I love strawman arguments

[acoustic kettle]

Still even if you sell it it's more money

[pale wolf]

It's not even a very straw-filled straw man because 8 Ball is usable value generation

[acoustic kettle]

Than what you're buying it for

[barren wigeon]

you could also get negative blueprint, whats your point

[cloud sinew]

also judgement isn't gonna hurt you because it gives stickerless jokers, unless you need eternals because of madness

[floral mural]

its not even that good for ancient since it removes the suit debuff immunity ancient joker has with skipping

[pale wolf]

what's the average sell value of a judgment Joker

[barren wigeon]

even if, you can still sell the for money

[turbid reef]

Worst case senario judgment is free Econ

[barren wigeon]

probably like 2 bucks

[cloud sinew]

I think it's $3

[turbid reef]

2 or 3

[cloud sinew]

I remember the number being ~$3 but I could be mistaken

[jovial mica]

sighhhh if only

[ivory sun]

o7 the wall was too high

[nova junco]

To do list isn't very good here

[barren wigeon]

and judgement costs 3 dollars (or 4 in a pack)

[acoustic kettle]

I would rather hierophant than tower

[nova junco]

Get the packs though

[turbid reef]

Ante 9 wall should be removed from the game

[barren wigeon]

same

[jovial mica]

too random yh

[floral mural]

i feel its 2 more often but like. paying 1 dollar for a random attempt at a useful joker is like good

[vernal bay]

If all jokers had equal chance of appearing, $4.

[floral mural]

no stickers is a big deal in higher stakes

[pale wolf]

The math would be like, average $ of each rarity x their shop weight and divided by the total weight right

[cloud sinew]

and they don't so this is useless

[acoustic kettle]

And judgment can give editions too right

[barren wigeon]

okay so let's say the average is 3 bucks

[cloud sinew]

this too

[barren wigeon]

yes it can

[vernal bay]

You need to clam down with how you're talking with me.

[nova junco]

Yes

[floral mural]

judgement can give editions yes

[cloud sinew]

clam down

[turbid reef]

Is the chance for every joker equal when using judgement?

[cloud sinew]

no

[barren wigeon]

nope

[jovial mica]

so what do i do here

[pale wolf]

clam down or clam up shellfish, you're going deep today

[nova junco]

Get the voucher and the packs I guess

[vernal bay]

Hostility is useless man, you're not proving anything by being constantly being frictional

[barren wigeon]

so with judgement you can either

1. get your money back
2. get almost all your money back
3. get a joker that you can keep
4. just get money if you got the tarot card for free

[obsidian patrol]

I dont think you should be talking about hostility

[barren wigeon]

id consider that pretty good

[pale wolf]

i pronounce it hudgement

[cloud sinew]

you have been very hostile, so I'm treating you similarly.

"fuck off"

[grave magnet]

Dear god...splash is so powerful.

[barren wigeon]

i agree

[jovial mica]

doubled money yay

[nova junco]

I know right

[vernal bay]

Well the thing with judgment is that you also have to have empty joker slots

[barren wigeon]

splash top 1 joker in the game

[turbid reef]

Its never bad to take

[pale wolf]

It's not the best tarot so it's not always the best option

[nova junco]

Splash can trigger more 8s for 8 ball

[cloud sinew]

this is true for all jokers in the shop as well, so

[barren wigeon]

if you dont have an empty joker slot you could always.... just not take it

[floral mural]

i wonder how many people buy wheels and hate judgement

since wheel is kinda worse usually

[acoustic kettle]

Judgment is not a must take

[barren wigeon]

i like both

certified gambler

[acoustic kettle]

It is a nice tarot

[grave magnet]

IVE BEEN STEAMROLLING BLINDS WHILE USING HIGH CARD HANDS AND FACE CARDS!!

[pale wolf]

That's another thing, judgment is a joker that you can hold in your consumable slots for when you next sell a joker

It's almost like another shop reroll or another Joker slot

[floral mural]

judgement isnt an always take but early you might as well

[barren wigeon]

i always take wheel, unless death, hermit, or temperance

I like to gamble

[turbid reef]

Where is splash even used outside of flower pot and maybe raised fist

[nova junco]

I always take wheel if the other option is moon and I'm on checkered

[barren wigeon]

seeing double

[cloud sinew]

seeing double, glass joker, lucky cat

[barren wigeon]

High Card builds i guess

[turbid reef]

Never considered that. But also getting a pair with clubs is never that hard

[cloud sinew]

gold seals

[white zodiac]

hiker 👅

[floral mural]

splash is also very cheap

[cloud sinew]

true

[pale wolf]

splash is good for literally any card that wants you to play a specific type of card, whether rank, enhancement, suit, face-cardiness

[turbid reef]

So just enchantments

[jovial mica]

im rich [got hermit twice]

[white zodiac]

midas

[pale wolf]

It's just not that good for them

[winged girder]

any joker that checks for a certain enhancement/card

[floral mural]

its most likely not gonna hurt you to spend 3 dollars that much

[cloud sinew]

every on-score effect, yes

[pale wolf]

no such thing as enchantments in balatro

[acoustic kettle]

Balala

[nova junco]

That's Minecraft iirc

[winged girder]

JokerPoker

[floral mural]

anyways ive been radicalized if i have an extra dollar over interest i buy credit card

and a slot for it

why not is the reason (unless its rental im not dumb)

[acoustic kettle]

I mean cc is free

[nova junco]

What if you could buy slots

[acoustic kettle]

Almost every time

[floral mural]

or eternal

[cloud sinew]

even if you don't have an extra dollar over, if it's non-eternal you can always just sell it before the end of the next round

[white zodiac]

or bus

[vernal bay]

Yeah and I'm gonna try and make you aware that you started the hostility. You've called me an idiot, said I was arguing in bad faith, insane, and stupid. You also said you "broke down my worldview" and have be extremely condescending.

[white zodiac]

huh

[pale wolf]

You can they just cost $20 and like 10 antes on average

[nova junco]

But like why would you buy it in the first place

[turbid reef]

Auto correct

[nova junco]

You know what I meant😭

[acoustic kettle]

You are arguing in bad faith though

[jovial mica]

im gonna try the boss now

[vernal bay]

I'm literally not, you cna't just say that when someone doesn't agree with you that it's in bad faith

[jovial mica]

won it in one

[nova junco]

It's really not as bad as you think, it's one of the more harmless ones especially if you're doing flushes

[white zodiac]

cool

[nova junco]

Told you so lol

[pale wolf]

I used to play a game called adventure quest worlds and that's an MMORPG where the weapons can get "enhancements" but because of the setting and format of the game, literally everybody in the game called it enchantments

[barren wigeon]

"you're being hostile" "WELL YOU STARTED IT" are you 5?

[turbid reef]

4.99 for a permanent joker slot

[grave magnet]

should i sell wrathful for scholar?

[vernal bay]

What an immature response

[obsidian patrol]

You literally strawmanned dude

[vestal fern]

"I get nothing but garbage ib my booster packs, if only there was a way to turn that into scoring!"

the humble red card:

[cloud sinew]

I did not call you an idiot (source?)
I said "sorry for breaking your world view"
if you're going to quote me at least do it right

[nova junco]

That's also not what I meant lmao

[jovial mica]

this is getting out of scope i need jupiters STAT

[acoustic kettle]

Been a while since i played balatro

[grave magnet]

Preach Brothha

[barren wigeon]

you are literally saying that your actions are because someone else started it. You are acting like a toddler. Lock in

[vestal fern]

The #🕹・game-discussion is fighting again.

[vernal bay]

Now see this is what I call arguing in bad faith!

[vestal fern]

clubs thinking they're apart of the team😭

[nova junco]

Yeah that's why I was saying get planets so much

Ante 8 is 100.000

[acoustic kettle]

It gotta be ragebait at this point

[cloud sinew]

lock in gang

[stiff ore]

yeah i only took it cause it was a wild

[floral mural]

what arguement is game discussion having today. literal nonsense ,obelisk or non balatro talk

[pale wolf]

I mean do you still say there isn't a situation for every single Joker to be detrimental to some degree

[vestal fern]

the humble Arrowhead:

[nova junco]

Also every joker is detrimental if you sell a better one

[barren wigeon]

very motivational

[acoustic kettle]

Arrowhead is so goated

[cloud sinew]

you quoted me incorrectly and you said I called you an idiot when I didn't. How is this arguing in bad faith?

[river slate]

damn ok showman

[acoustic kettle]

The hell

[pale wolf]

ew

[nova junco]

RED RUN LETS GO

[jovial mica]

what is this

[floral mural]

scoring too much so you cant scale your whatever counts as well

[cloud sinew]

suboptimal joker order for scoring smh

[grave magnet]

Mr. Bones. TAKE IT

[pale wolf]

it is what it says

[acoustic kettle]

Saves you from dying

[nova junco]

Does what it says lol

[pale wolf]

The name of the Joker is pretty irrelevant

[river slate]

damn i didn't relize

[jovial mica]

lineup rn what to sell

[floral mural]

dont worry smiley doing nothing there

[copper marsh]

Should I replace a joker with Blueprint?

[nova junco]

Nothing Mr bones is funny but that's it lol

[cloud sinew]

smiley should be left of bloodstone and photograph

[pale wolf]

contextless

[floral mural]

for what?

[barren wigeon]

still won't hit

[grave magnet]

sell wrathful for scholar?

[acoustic kettle]

Bones

[cloud sinew]

misprint, yes

[pale wolf]

You could probably kill misprint

[cloud sinew]

why not sell riff-raff

[jovial mica]

i sent a mr bones ill probably not take it tho

[barren wigeon]

dumb question

[nova junco]

Do you plan on using riff raff much longer

[pale wolf]

there's a universe where misprint rolls above 15 every single role and you actually kill mystic summit
but it's not this one

[barren wigeon]

the answer is always yes.

ALWAYS

[floral mural]

are you getting threatened by boss blinds?

[cloud sinew]

no such thing

[acoustic kettle]

Crimson heart is coming to snipe that mr bones

[barren wigeon]

i dont think there is a universe where that happens

[pale wolf]

Don't threaten me with head

[floral mural]

if so you replace the drunkard or juggler for bones as a makeshift luchador

how confident in your draw are you

[barren wigeon]

"is splash the best joker in the game???"

[nova junco]

There's literally no situation where the answer is no to this question lol

[fading cobalt]

If you guys dont have mime or chad do you skip baron/photograph?

[grave magnet]

yes

[pale wolf]

what's the difference between a duck

[barren wigeon]

dumb question because splash is obviously the best joker in the game

[floral mural]

with juggler and drunkard you should be able to get that flush dirst hand before hook acts

[acoustic kettle]

I always skip baron even with mime

Honestly

[barren wigeon]

I understood that reference

[nova junco]

Photo is good even without chad

[acoustic kettle]

Mime is so goated though

[floral mural]

both of those are the good parts not baron and photo

[jovial mica]

that is a good question

[stiff ore]

xD

[fading cobalt]

With good planet levels sure

[cloud sinew]

eh. it's mid without chad

[vernal bay]

Because you're not addressing what I'm saying at all. Just because certain claims of my argument may not be 100% accurate doesn't mean that my point is invalid or untrue. You have been too hostile and you're refusing to acknowledge that for some reason

[pale wolf]

One could say that even nonsensical questions aren't bad questions, simply non-sequitur masterpieces

[jovial mica]

i dont have chad and its doing alright

[fading cobalt]

I think you misunderstood my question

[violet bear]

Today i’m on a streak of throwing 3 unloseable runs out of 3 for greed. Quite spectacular

[pale wolf]

brutal

[cloud sinew]

"too hostile" I have not been too hostile, I have matched your hostility.

[acoustic kettle]

Me when i farm money on needle

[floral mural]

i wouldnt since taking bad jokers for gamble "ill surely get the way to make this good" combos is unreliable

[vernal bay]

Can you literally provide anything that matches what you've sent me.

[floral mural]

baron is bad and photo is ehh

[jovial mica]

the game wont give me jupiters i may be cooked

[cloud sinew]

I also did not refuse to acknowledge that, I even said in the first place that I was "matching that"

[pale wolf]

I don't always skip photograph because it's pretty cheap but yeah always skip Baron

[floral mural]

although photo is cheap enough that i guess taking it early non eternal would be fine

[cloud sinew]

I don't care enough, so no.

balatro time

[fading cobalt]

Yeah so... Wait what?

[violet bear]

Ante 1 madness for one, double chad hiker burnt card sharp on ante 8 for… 14 dollars off a golden ticket. And a ante 7 square man run

[fading cobalt]

My brains not working anymore

[jovial mica]

HOLY SHIT TURTLE BEAN

[acoustic kettle]

Baron ain't good

[violet bear]

I’m just not gonna play anymore today isn’t my day lmfao

[barren wigeon]

quitter

[pale wolf]

kill the drunk

[violet bear]

Yeah i’m quitting before winning it big

[lunar zealot]

Eyoooooo

[jovial mica]

guaranteed flushes

[lunar zealot]

My name is kami and im here to say

[pale wolf]

actually kill the golden what the heck

what am I saying

[acoustic kettle]

Bbc mid

[vernal bay]

Its both of our responsibilities to calm down, and you're still mighty passive aggressive. Just because you say something doesn't mean I was justified in saying it either, so I'm sorry. I hope we can both move on from this

[lunar zealot]

I think they should buff satellite some type of way

[quaint token]

idk why but im really tempted to take this super nova

shall i do it?

[pale wolf]

you're below mid 🤬

[lunar zealot]

Like make it start at $4 or something

[pale wolf]

aurora borealis

[lunar zealot]

Because good god this joker is abysmal at all stages of the game

[cloud sinew]

starting at $2 would be enough

[pale wolf]

lilos idea is starting at 2

[barren wigeon]

let's see the deck lil bro

[pale wolf]

look I beat Lilo to their own idea

[acoustic kettle]

I mean satellite could easily just be second tier planet merchant

[violet bear]

1$ per level on most played hand

[lunar zealot]

wait let him cook

[cloud sinew]

no...

[quaint token]

in a balatro tournament

[barren wigeon]

hmm

what hands are you playing

[lunar zealot]

My bad it's almost 12 am

[quaint token]

high card

[white zodiac]

no you didn't 💔

[barren wigeon]

what's it at rn

[violet bear]

No i cannot be trusted with any kind of cooking

[quaint token]

29

[jovial mica]

do i take the spectral pack

[violet bear]

I’m gonna break the econ

[river slate]

W deck for ante 7?

[barren wigeon]

probably not then

[lunar zealot]

why are your cards black

[cloud sinew]

i dont want you

[quaint token]

👍 thank you dawg

[river slate]

texture

[barren wigeon]

negative

[lunar zealot]

nice

[river slate]

it helps at night for my eyes

[barren wigeon]

why not

[cloud sinew]

rental

[barren wigeon]

.....and?

[floral mural]

because rental ante 1 is usually death imminent

[cloud sinew]

and i can't sustain rental right now

[white zodiac]

kills ecom momentum

[lunar zealot]

i mean she's not on yellow deck

[jovial mica]

dont take the rentals

do NOT

[cloud sinew]

I also already have scoring

[acoustic kettle]

Delete satellite and make it second tier planet merchant please

[lunar zealot]

even if she was you don't take an ante 1 rental

[barren wigeon]

fair enough I guess

[barren wigeon]

if doc can do it I can do it

[nova junco]

Gold joker rental is op

Trust

[lunar zealot]

I would take an ante 1 rental if and only if i had rebate or midas

[cloud sinew]

not true

[lunar zealot]

your ass is not drspectred sit down

[jovial mica]

the game is allergic to giving me planet cards and theres nothing i can do except improve my jokers if possible

[vernal bay]

What's the next deck?

[river slate]

what do i sell here?

[barren wigeon]

im the second coming

trust

[lunar zealot]

Sloppy seconds clearly

[obsidian patrol]

Anti matter in jimbo pack

[lunar zealot]

Sit down

[barren wigeon]

woah

sus

[nova junco]

Honestly I'd sell Business card

[white zodiac]

it's gonna be 3 antes before she's gonna be at interest cap, what she's running isn't worth unlike docs build in recent video

[river slate]

fair i was thiking the same thing

[obsidian patrol]

Bloodstone

[violet bear]

Maybe you can get away with something stupid like madness

But yeah

[lunar zealot]

Hell naw

[violet bear]

Ante 1 rentals are run killers usually

[acoustic kettle]

I take ante 1 rental golden

[cloud sinew]

+mult be damned

[lunar zealot]

again there is very few reason to take ante 1 rental

[river slate]

no.

[lunar zealot]

like off the top of my head

like

[floral mural]

unless your rental joker is specifically midas or rebate you dont usually take it ante 1

[lunar zealot]

if you're on magic deck and get triple hermit

if you have specifically midas/rebate

[white zodiac]

must be either econ positive, yellow deck, or run winning second joker in good synergy with first

[violet bear]

At that point you can get away with anything (lie)

[floral mural]

i remember getting an early rental constellation on my first gold stake win but it was ante 2 and checkered deck with a burnt joker i had fuel to search for econ

[lunar zealot]

Special shoutout to rocket by the way which is EXCEPTIONALLY niche

[acoustic kettle]

Rental rocket is so

[lunar zealot]

Like i would take a rental rocket

not ante 1 though

[acoustic kettle]

Something

[lunar zealot]

hell naw

[violet bear]

I took a ante 1 rental rocket and won with it

Insane gaming

[cloud sinew]

bleal <3

[river slate]

ok now i really don't know 😭

[nova junco]

I would

[river slate]

reabte right?