🕹・game-discussion

[white zodiac]

darn

[random ice]

Perishable however, I would consider, as it can still pay for itself in the 5 rounds

[heavy aspen]

I love digital circus but despise the community

So understandable

👍

[random ice]

People sleep on Perishable Econ Jokers

[wicked vault]

nightmare bus situation (need pairs)

[random ice]

The point is they pay for themselves

Except Perishable rocket and Satellite lmao

Also, factoring in the resale price into the value of an Econ Joker

[white zodiac]

no they don't lol ill take them whenever it profits

[pale wolf]

i could get two rare jokers!!!

[white zodiac]

perishable rocket isn't a thing

[random ice]

Huh

I didn't realise that one was impossible

[plain mirage]

ye rocket cant be perishable

[random ice]

They should bring back eternal Luchador

I miss that

[white zodiac]

no

proactive scalers cannot be perishable

[heavy aspen]

They should bring back balatro

I miss that part of the game

[cunning osprey]

rate my build guys

[random ice]

They did have eternal Luchador for a bit

Was actually a meme here

Before it was hastily patched

[heavy aspen]

Egg

[wicked vault]

wait some jokers cant be perishable?
Surely thats not true

[pale wolf]

evil evil burnt stopping me from taking brush

[white zodiac]

something I can't say for the second worst perishable under more scenarios

[pale wolf]

non-retroactive scalers cant be perishable

bus, green, ramen, etc

[heavy aspen]

Decisions decisions

[white zodiac]

ramen?

[random ice]

Econ Jokers value = Revenue from Joker - Buy price + Resale price - interest lost.

As long as you have a free slot, this equation is almost always positive

NOW

You can argue the opportunity cost also exists

If you have a choice between multiple jokers

But I am lazy

And refuse to add more variables to my calculations

[pale wolf]

oh i was thinking eternal for ramen my b

[white zodiac]

im not saying econ is bad, I'm just saying del grat is the worst of its kind

[wicked vault]

300+ hours and i never thought about that.
Does the game state this somewhere?

[white zodiac]

nope

[pale wolf]

there are many things the game doesn't state explicitly, you just have to observe it

[random ice]

Thing is, Satellite also has Planet costs included in its Purchase Price

[white zodiac]

some interactions are discovered inexplicably

[random ice]

Econ Jokers value = Revenue from Joker - Buy price + Resale price - interest lost - cost of planets (assuming they do not benefit you in any other way)

So Satellite is a bit of a pyramid scheme

[unreal elbow]

i'm a fucking idiot

[random ice]

As you keep having to feed it money before it turns positive

[dense wraith]

you know I gotta get runner

[pale wolf]

thats alright

[random ice]

Satellite is the Deva Form of Balatro

[unreal elbow]

is it salvagable

[pale wolf]

why are you mad

they work together

[plain mirage]

he doesnt know suit interactions

smeared will help u here

[wintry ice]

satellite is decent-ish in the midgame

[unreal elbow]

burrrrrrrr thank god

[robust lance]

WE GOT A RUNNER! OPEN FIRE!!!!!!

[pale wolf]

this way you need 2 black suits and 2 red suits instead of needing 1 heart 1 club 1 spade 1 diamond

[rose monolith]

Is it rare getting a Perkeo ante 2?

[unreal elbow]

thank god i was assuming the worst

[pale wolf]

slightly more lenient

[white zodiac]

yeah but unlike del grat, satellite has a more reasonable ceiling where you should be taking planets quite often. it's often at the very least +$2 by the time it turns up, assuming youre not super early game.

it also doesn't crash itself or hinder card search value. has joker compliments in case synergies want to be brought into it's utility. del grat doesn't have reliable synergy with those jokers individually also requiring another joker to make use of it (andrew, banner, etc)

[pale wolf]

any legendary is rare

but if you open every pack every run you get a legendary about 1 in 7 runs

[rose monolith]

Is it even more rare ante 2?

[pale wolf]

no

same probability any ante

[rose monolith]

Alright thanks 🙏

[gaunt shale]

balatro chat

[rose monolith]

Interesting

[coral summit]

Tf is this even

[random ice]

Did someone take a Skip Tag

Big f

[coral summit]

You bet your booty I did

[random ice]

You get what you get

[coral summit]

I mean yeah I’m just

[lunar zealot]

I mean it's 0 dollar

[random ice]

ACTUALLY, credit card is the worst econ joker

[lunar zealot]

what else could have happened

[pale wolf]

there should be a joker that makes the next shop joker free

[coral summit]

This amount of modifiers to make DNA as undesirable of a pick as possible outside of polychrome

[pale wolf]

cola style

[random ice]

No it's a loss of blind money, interest, scaling and a shop

[white zodiac]

I like credit

sort of

[random ice]

Credit has a few very niche uses

[coral summit]

Ok so I’ll take buffoon instead of this weird ass dna

[brave goblet]

Cant wait for my next free perishable rental seance

[pale wolf]

credit card isnt even an econ joker imo, any more than luchador is a scoring joker

[random ice]

90% of the time I want to be above interest cap

[raw loom]

Was watching a roffle vid and the ecto landed on the Baron, and he said it made it worse but Shouldn't it be good that the ecto landed on a joker he doesn't wanna sell ?

[lunar zealot]

At best dna serves as 1 dollar temperance fuel should you find temperance this specific shop

[white zodiac]

well credit card isn't necessarily giving me money

[coral summit]

Oh god damn it.

[lunar zealot]

Otherwise you can take it, duplicate one (1) card and inmediately sell it

[white zodiac]

it just increases the bottom end

[heavy heron]

well haven’t done a build like this in a minute

bailed by last minute blueprint

[random ice]

I get it sells for a $1 and buys for a $1 so it's free basically

But

[heavy heron]

imagine the hologram

[white zodiac]

8 balls!?
doioioioioing

[pale wolf]

I can think of a few reasons why it might be worse but I would need to see what his build was at the moment

[random ice]

I'm not using up that emergency pot very often

[coral summit]

8 ball stinky

[random ice]

I want to stay above $25

[coral summit]

I’m just skipping this and moving on

[random ice]

So much of the time

That credit card rarely gets use

[storm marsh]

hello there

[heavy heron]

i’m so jealous of my big deck

[random ice]

What are your top four enhancements?

For me it's

Gold Glass Lucky Steel (in that order)

[raw loom]

Like this, he's working into a baron high card build after clearing initial antes with a pair Build

[pale wolf]

improper Joker order, you should have cavendish at the far left, and then blueprint copying brainstorm somewhere to the right of half Joker

[heavy heron]

maybe he meant that it means he’s forced to dedicate to it now? as opposed to maybe an idol he was thinking of pivoting into?

[random ice]

Baron being negative means he can't swap it out with a Showman

I suspect that's the thing

[heavy heron]

wait you’re right

[random ice]

Roffle loves Showman

[heavy heron]

i do not have blueprint and brainstorm enough

bro i’m so brainrotted that’s so obvious

[random ice]

It's rental too lmao

[heavy heron]

and i didn’t see that

i saw vv and was certain i was going to die

then magically last shop last final shop

blueprint

[white zodiac]

pretty much, there's not a lot of enhancements to look at

[random ice]

Also people sleep on Stones, stones have a lot of niche uses

[heavy heron]

i guess rewarded for keeping rebate for so long

[pale wolf]

I mean he's more geared to a retrigger build with the Chad and sock already so yeah it was the only Joker in his build that wasn't going in the same direction as the others

[heavy heron]

lovers 🙄

[pale wolf]

I'm not sure why he didn't just sell the baron though

besides the fact that he's streaming to a chat box

for money

[heavy heron]

i feel like people call finding blueprint/brainstorm lucky but tbf if you really found a way to max money (assuming you can find money jokers and such) it’s not a question if you’ll find the jokers you need

[random ice]

Stones can be used for all sorts of things

• Deleting a row for rebate logic
• Guaranteeing the card can't be Debuffed in a boss blind (e.g. with a blue seal)
• With Chad for a Chip boost during flint
• To avoid resetting Ride the Bus

They're low key funky

Not... Amazing.

[heavy heron]

and hologram😍

[random ice]

But I definitely see a ton of utility value in them I didn't used to

[heavy heron]

oh wait

[white zodiac]

gold seal stone

[heavy heron]

i’m thinking of marble specifically

whoops

[violet sparrow]

stones are good

just not great

[random ice]

Can't be Debuffed during a boss blind, which is a plus

[heavy heron]

that was my first stone build since the stone age

[random ice]

The more niche uses I find for stones, the more I love their design

[heavy heron]

🤪

[white zodiac]

pillar

[pale wolf]

i think the best use for stone is on gold seals/with editions

[random ice]

Excluding Pillar obviously

[pale wolf]

after the killing ranks for rebate thing

[random ice]

And Leaf while we're at it

[white zodiac]

😐

[random ice]

I mean in a more general sense, like the suit debuffers and plant

[heavy heron]

petition to allow rebate to pick stone cards

[random ice]

Who hurt you

[heavy heron]

marble joker did..

[pale wolf]

this would be kind of wild

[heavy heron]

and my 80 card deck

bro stone joker is slept on

i had 800 chips

chips

god damn

[pale wolf]

but if you had that many stones why do you need that many chips extra

[heavy heron]

because

i’m limited to using 3

for half joker

[pale wolf]

bah

[heavy heron]

also 5 stones are only 250

pretty big diff from 750 (or 800, whatever i had)

[white zodiac]

rebate nerf

[deft sandal]

ante 9 e18

[pale wolf]

hard for me to tell

[heavy heron]

and a free joker slot

[pale wolf]

could just be a tower buff

😎

[white zodiac]

mayhaps

[deft sandal]

I hope I can get naneinf with this unseeded run

[heavy heron]

i hope tower can pick 2 cards

after update

same with wilds

[pale wolf]

nooo

[heavy heron]

NOOO?

[pale wolf]

too much

[heavy heron]

i feel like tower is already pretty bad

[pale wolf]

tower is okay

[dense wraith]

this build is going well I just need gros michel to die to try and find cavendish (or just find another xmult source)

[heavy heron]

that’s not a bad build

you got smth cooking

but yes you’ll need to find something soon

earlier i was stuck on this decision for a while

[white zodiac]

tower is inoffensive to decent with frequent draw

[heavy heron]

i don’t know how i decided that baseball card was the one to die

but i had made up my mind

[dense wraith]

Michel just died but hologram it is then

[heavy heron]

inoffensive to decent?

[heavy heron]

and the standard packs

hell yes

[vocal rose]

doesn't harm you to having viability

[heavy heron]

that’s true but i don’t think any enhancement harms you to have (besides glass?)

[dense wraith]

accidentally opened one before getting hologram 😢

[cosmic sun]

I feel like sisyphus and dna sticker is the rock

[white zodiac]

+50 chips that has less boss blind risks compared to planets

[heavy heron]

damn it

[white zodiac]

for your hand

[deft sandal]

Is drunkard useless for naneinf

[heavy heron]

well if you’re not playing a 5 card hand yeah

otherwise, it’s pointless

[white zodiac]

wild is bugged and sucks in general, steel can be inconvenient scoring timing, empress is negligible mid to late

[heavy heron]

and i sure as hell know you ain’t using an idol before ante 8 so, no usage there either for stone cards

[white zodiac]

im always never playing a 5 card poker hand

[heavy heron]

do you mean bugged as in blocked by the suit debuff blinds?

[white zodiac]

at base it's x3 mercury chips

[heavy heron]

i think that was intentional even if it logically makes no sense

[white zodiac]

bugged as in pot gets cucked by wilds

[heavy heron]

pot doesn’t work with wilds?

[white zodiac]

if 4th suit is wild

[barren wigeon]

okay

[heavy heron]

i could’ve sworn it does

[barren wigeon]

eternal todd or eternal hallucination

[heavy heron]

wtf

i wanna test this now that’s insane

[heavy heron]

probably neither but if you’re about to die, maybe former

if you can survive for a while, latter

[barren wigeon]

its ante 1

[heavy heron]

latter

[barren wigeon]

could've just said hallucination instead of speaking shakespearean but ok

[hidden lance]

ive never seen it negative

[heavy heron]

you say wild is bad but wait until you have the arrowhead, onyx agate, bloodstone and rough gem flush build

🙄

[white zodiac]

ok

[heavy heron]

that’s really good wow, but also extremely hard to use effectively if you’re new to the game

i don’t know where your skill level is but it’s a good pick if you really are careful

[lunar zealot]

i mean

[heavy heron]

the irony is that the build i just mentioned sucks

[lunar zealot]

It's as easy as just making lots of gold cards and having a temperance

you still want money on a vagabond run

just gotta be creative with how you get it

[barren wigeon]

eternal rebate?

oh yes please

[lunar zealot]

and obvi you pivot out of vagabind once the time comes

[lunar zealot]

that is NOT good with vagabond

[heavy heron]

not

the same person

[barren wigeon]

you vs reading

[heavy heron]

LOOLLLL

[fervent wolf]

Stm providing absolutely no value here:

[lunar zealot]

FUCK

[heavy heron]

BRO IM SURPRISED YOURE NOT DEAD

TO 0 HAND SIZE

what’s your hand size like 2?

[lunar zealot]

You die to crimson heart prolly

[heavy heron]

i think they die to many things

pov the psychic comes

[lunar zealot]

We don't talk about the psychic

[heavy heron]

you did good

i’m glad you found a burglar

[lunar zealot]

Holy abstract

[calm sapphire]

yes

[fervent wolf]

I literally only need abstract for flat mult lol, run comped itself

[fervent wolf]

I had encountered that as the ante 0 boss

[heavy heron]

yoyoyoooo

i love me some abstracts

abstract is all they need in that build yea

15 x 1.5 x 1.5 x 1.5 =50

😱

50 mult is 50 mult❤️

[fervent wolf]

This run was from this morning, I've been getting so many good runs today (I jinxed it...)

[heavy heron]

where’s the balatro halloween update

[fervent wolf]

But this IS my current run soooo

[heavy heron]

scary face is the only joker in the game for all of today

[white zodiac]

next october

[heavy heron]

:(

[white zodiac]

thought this would be a cool discussion

(+2 mult, boss blind non existent)

[brave goblet]

Obeliskin (I started with 14 high cards as timer)

[sly coral]

baron clutch

[deft sandal]

that's pain right here

[cosmic sun]

pain

is not finding DNA

[ember plinth]

grabbed a rebate by instinct when I have burglar 💔

[deft sandal]

same

even if I found one, I can't take it

[low spire]

how does one complete green stakes

i’m gen so ass

i did 13/15 red stakes now i’m playing like garbage

💔💔

[lyric shore]

its p much the same as red

[fervent wolf]

Just wait until you get to gold stake

(I like gold stake personally)

[low spire]

no it’s not

it feels so much harder

[lyric shore]

whats your most played hand

[low spire]

like in general

[lyric shore]

yea

[low spire]

flush i think

i’ve won with every hand though

[lyric shore]

can you post your most used jokers page

[hardy fable]

using me

[low spire]

wtf

[lyric shore]

you have 0 scaling jokers in your top 10

[low spire]

i always get them late game

[solid tapir]

using you ?

[lyric shore]

with that many rounds it seems unlikely

no real xmult in the top either

[low spire]

i’m not that ass i swear 😭

[solid tapir]

egg is a scaling joker

[solid tapir]

this is so cute

[hardy fable]

man I need to clean up my gallery because 90% of it is just my runs

[solid tapir]

I stopped screenshotting my runs once I got used to beating gold stake 🥀

otherwise my gallery would also just be balatro runs

[sly coral]

nat negatives

[solid tapir]

negative banner is run winning

[barren wigeon]

OH MY GOODNESS

FINALLY

GOLD STAKE YELLOW DECK

COMPLETED

my first ever gold stake win

and yall wanna know what did it?

bloodstone oops

a literal flush build

got me my first gold stake win

[solid tapir]

brainrot goldstake win

[barren wigeon]

gluttonous joker there for emotional support

[barren wigeon]

hey

if it works it works

[solid tapir]

ofc

[barren wigeon]

you gotta use what you get

and I got Oops all 6s and bloodstone

[solid tapir]

well ye

we play the seed how it's presented to us

unless we're on white stake

then we can do whatever we want

[barren wigeon]

real

you could say....

you play the cards youre dealt

[kindred jasper]

Wee Joker + Hanging Chad in Plasma Deck just made probably one of the easiest runs I've ever done

[pale wolf]

blessed

[coarse silo]

Wee runs are always fun

I got mine up to 1000+ one time

[kindred jasper]

I think mine was almost 1000 by the end

Legit the other jokers barely did anything

It was nice having one more discard from one to try to get my 2s

[balmy ridge]

nearly there!!!!!!!!!!

[rugged pecan]

Finally beat gold stake plasma 🙏

$299 carrying that bull

[coarse silo]

Casual negative Chicot is crazy

[rugged pecan]

Ectoplasm but I wanted it to hit chicot anyways and got lucky

Means no more chicot on gold stake for a while though

[vocal quartz]

showman i love you but please you gotta show me some respect

[rugged pecan]

That is an incredible build wow

[vocal quartz]

it’s a great time

[severe kestrel]

Got bottomdecked

[coarse silo]

Naw that’s a good thing

More likely to get perkeo or trib

[vocal quartz]

nice first pack

[alpine nest]

Trib isn't rly that good for gold stake compared to chicot

Wow auto correct hates me

[coarse silo]

lol

[random ice]

Came close to losing a few times

Survived needle due to a Poly runner

[alpine nest]

I sell blueprint right?

[random ice]

Maybe the DNA? How much do you need the DNA handsize

[alpine nest]

Like. Not at all. I can't even copy yet. Ig i can always roll into it after ecto right?

[random ice]

Wait you aren't using the DNA right now

Hmm

[alpine nest]

Nrn

[random ice]

It's either DNA or BP

Hard to tell

I'd say the DNA

[fading cobalt]

I think my deck is fixed

[alpine nest]

Well if I find an ecto I'll sell dna anyways. So

[alpine nest]

-# Red seals

[random ice]

Yeah, you want BP to be an Ecto target

So yeah

[fading cobalt]

I've been looking man

[random ice]

Bye bye DNA

[alpine nest]

Have you been opening standards?

[fading cobalt]

Yes

[alpine nest]

Then idk

You got this

[fading cobalt]

I don't got this

[vocal rose]

is your deck fixed

with gold red seal kings

[cosmic sun]

suffering from success is not finding the last sticker you need

[noble shuttle]

Wooo, Plasma Deck Gold Stake finished!!!
It's my fifth one!!!

What deck should I do next?
In order these are the decks I've beaten:

1. Checkered
2. Ghost
3. Erratic
4. Painted
5. Plasma

[pale wolf]

black

[noble shuttle]

-# Shivers in fear

Are ya sure?

[pale wolf]

yea

[noble shuttle]

Alright... No promises I'll win anytime soon lol.

[pale wolf]

black is fun 😄

[noble shuttle]

On white stake.

On gs it's hell.

[noble shuttle]

You forgot the red seal.

[fading cobalt]

Correct joker order?

[fading cobalt]

You scrolled up and saw that but missed the chat that explained why?

[pale wolf]

i played it 3 times during my c++

[jagged valve]

This is my first attempt at black stake and I get a soul

My first attempt at red stake on blue deck also got me a perkeo

Earlier today

It was a Canio

Don't really know how to scale it well

[low spire]

valid?

[white zodiac]

oh no not doc doing another donation influenced tier list

[barren fern]

I loaded the game just now and because it has been a while I didn't know I had a save with these.

[fading cobalt]

Pray for trading card tbh

Or a good amount of hanged mans

[barren wigeon]

yellow

doc stream
bottom text

[fading cobalt]

The humble plant

[barren wigeon]

negative perk???

[fading cobalt]

Seeded

[barren wigeon]

epic

[barren wigeon]

lame

[fading cobalt]

Ante 1 negative blueprint and nat negative perkeo peaked my interest

[barren wigeon]

anyways

doc stream

bottom text

[noble shuttle]

Finally, a genuine answer lol.

[barren wigeon]

i say yellow deck because i just got yellow deck gold stake

and yellow deck is nice

[turbid reef]

Proof that chikot is better than blueprint

[cosmic seal]

yea baby

the ancient one

all hail the ancient one

[fading cobalt]

Its funny you say that cuz not only did I have chicot earlier but I also skipped directors cut cuz I had chicot

[humble gulch]

More stickers

[winter pike]

yorick my boy

[pale wolf]

yorick is my girl

[winter pike]

no yoricks mine

[cursive lion]

the best part of this image is the speech bubble seems to coming out of photograph's mouth

[ashen mauve]

When the negative skip actually pays off

[solid garden]

yeah, righttttttt

[alpine basalt]

nat neg baron is crazy

[solid garden]

crazier with the trib

even more crazier with 8 kings erratic

[ashen mauve]

👀👀

[alpine basalt]

what a seed

shame its not gold stake

[ashen mauve]

Erratic has been my favorite deck lately, love messing around on white stake with wild builds

[solid garden]

I think gold stake would've killed me before the trib

so at least I can see this lol

[solid garden]

do you need my seed?

[alpine basalt]

same scoring reqs as purple though?

[solid garden]

I can post it here

if you want

[lavish nacelle]

Money runs are the best

[alpine basalt]

i'd put it in #🌱・seed-chat , i might check it out later once i'm off the gs grind

[solid garden]

rentals might've killed me if I pulled up on gold

[solid garden]

okok

[alpine basalt]

true

[solid garden]

INVISIBLE NEXT REROLL

WTF

uhhhhh

[lavish nacelle]

Underrated strategies

[solid garden]

I FOUND MIME

WTFFF

sorry for caps

[willow frost]

bro is just yelling

[solid garden]

sorry

[willow frost]

its fine lmao

yesterday i was trying to find a picture i sent but the last like 200 have all been me shouting in chat about how shit my naneinf runs were going lol

[alpine basalt]

BRO GIVE ME ANOTHER JOKER 😭

ITS ALL CHIP JOKERS

I CANT EVEN KEEP ROLLING

runner is keeping my shit aflout by some miracle

The singular situation where I take riff raff over rebate

[lost vault]

why?

[alpine basalt]

I lose if I don't

[lost vault]

eternal rebate is fine :p

rah

is ee

[wintry ice]

do i consider mime

steels are going to be good so like

[alpine basalt]

with midas? absolutely

[alpine nest]

Lost to the heart

[wintry ice]

i decided to skip it just incase i have no space for xmult or stickers

[somber nebula]

even gay can be straight

[viral raft]

who the hell is the Farmer one

[wintry ice]

+2$ per (suit) in hand

[alpine basalt]

i'm at not risk of losing, think I oughta take this or leave it so I can have a chance at a non-perishable down the line?

[viral raft]

leave it, temporal Xmult are mostly bad because when you lose it you actually feel the diffenrece

i'd rather farm Pants/Runner while io search for another Caven or xmult

is ante 5 so you still have time

[alpine basalt]

that was my thought too, and what I ended up doing as well

[cosmic seal]

the ancient pants

the holy trousers

[viral raft]

yeah

[alpine basalt]

the bungler pants + green deck is such a good combo

[viral raft]

you can also one shot and farm money because you're playing Green

[alpine basalt]

runner is at 165, pants at 26, mostly just trying to scale pants at this point

[viral raft]

yeah, +4$ if you don't use the hands that Burguer gaves you

[pale wolf]

HOW MANY PANTS IS A TROUSERS¿

[cosmic seal]

1 pants is 1 trouser

[viral raft]

runner is already high, imo pants and wqhen you get a xmult sell Half joker

and also with burguer is kinda hard to get Straight without wasting a hand

so just spam two pairs

that would be a good option

[somber nebula]

2 pairs

[alpine basalt]

yeah thats how i've been doing it the past 2 antes (since I got pants), I just play a straight if I draw into it

[viral raft]

yep

also a Obelisk in that run would be amazing ngl

[alpine basalt]

there we are

[viral raft]

i knew it was a good idea save the caven

[somber nebula]

would be funny if he destroyed after 5 rounds

[alpine basalt]

nah, too many high cards been played for me to be comfortable with obe

because of burglar + bad luck

[viral raft]

if a obeslisk appears you could sell the buguer and just play 3oak, pair and full house

specially full house

because pants works with them

but whatever

you already won tbh

just minmax twopairs and easy as pie

[unreal iron]

holy luck...

[alpine basalt]

yeah, scoring 50k per hand when trying to scale rn

[unreal iron]

black deck taking me all day to beat sucked

[alpine basalt]

the run is won already

[unreal iron]

but my lord i won

finally

[alpine basalt]

this run I was shocked to get to this point lmao

[coral egret]

deckfixmaxxing ❤️

[alpine nest]

Trading card be like

[coral egret]

no trading cards

just perkeo

and death tarot

i had blueprint perkeo baron and photochad

couldnt find a mime

sadly

[alpine basalt]

winnable still

oh wait nvm you lost alr

rip

[cosmic seal]

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

[alpine basalt]

what a first shop.

[cosmic seal]

all ass

[alpine basalt]

aint no way this guy just called space joker delayed grat and business card ass

[coral egret]

i found trib and an ankh and a wraith

my luckiest seed ever

[cosmic sun]

no

[coral egret]

all ante 1

[soft trout]

am i getting enough planet levels?

[alpine basalt]

I think you need more blue seals

[vagrant dawn]

🤑

wow

[pale wolf]

ʐ

[calm sapphire]

ź

[blissful shard]

🎉

[coral egret]

RRTFRMHC

[serene forge]

I hate Baron

[coral egret]

i like baron

[white zodiac]

y

[pale wolf]

i have fancy

[pale wolf]

ʏ

[coral egret]

i cant stop playing face card strats

they're too good

[lavish nacelle]

How do you unlock Cavendish

[alpine basalt]

break gros michel

[pale wolf]

cavendish isnt an unlock, it only appears when gros michel extincted that run

[coral egret]

gros michel has to go extinct

[lavish nacelle]

Oh

I had already break it

I guess I haven't seen Cavendish

[coral egret]

now wait for a cavendish to spawn

[pale wolf]

so then it's just one of the common jokers that can appear

[coral egret]

u can try rerolling

[alpine basalt]

bro, ante 1 round 1 gros michel BREAK ALREADY I JUST WANT CAVENDISH

[pale wolf]

its per run remember, not just once

[alpine basalt]

also flash card with reroll glut btw

[pale wolf]

once michel extincts it cant reappear either

[lavish nacelle]

Oh

That make sense

[serene forge]

ping me next time you complain about plant

[coral egret]

too bad i always have a backup plan for it

im not stupid

[serene forge]

we'll see about that

[royal bobcat]

The humble glass card:

[serene forge]

that's for photochad

[slow iris]

I hate Throwback

[serene forge]

me too!!!!!!

[coral egret]

throw my back

[alpine basalt]

awwww

[heavy aspen]

I dont get how erosion works

[alpine basalt]

full deck

[heavy aspen]

wdym

[alpine basalt]

if you have less than the base amount of cards that come with the deck it gives +4 mult for every card below starting amount

[heavy aspen]

oh

[sacred obsidian]

who playing now

[coral egret]

this seed is just beautiful bro

[heavy aspen]

sold it i cant really see thaty being useful

at least not this run

[alpine basalt]

the humble blueprint

[coral egret]

in sha allah i find a blueprint

or brainstorm

[alpine basalt]

wow thats worthless!

[coral egret]

no its tuff

[sacred obsidian]

yousef td5ol rom

[pale wolf]

how many tribs is that

[alpine basalt]

we love 7 joker slots on gold stake

[pale wolf]

i wonder what the most slots ive ever had was

[alpine basalt]

I think you're not gonna make the next ante bro

should i do it?

[coral egret]

nah

[alpine basalt]

ecto doesn't hit gros michel right? right?

[thick haven]

dont make the same mistake i did

[alpine basalt]

the potential though

think of it

8 gold stickers in one run

i'm drooling at the thought

(i'd never find a 2 again)

[serene forge]

this smiley face is so useful

[pale wolf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1379214645742796911/1394087834737971342/screen-20250713-183645.mp4?ex=6905e538&is=690493b8&hm=5d4d0b5d6a16aaee2c21dcd2153547ec2f50ff9ec58fad033bfc3fab027114f9&
14

[alpine basalt]

actually 7 gold stickers because wee alr as one

[serene forge]

please don't

[pale wolf]

ive had 7 several times but never 8-13, only 14 (at the end)

[white zodiac]

I've had 9

[terse vale]

Ooh I think I have one like this too

[alpine basalt]

man every joker has been rental this run its tragic

[pale wolf]

take hiker and use it for the round then sell before you get charged rental

[alpine basalt]

thats what I did

[terse vale]

camera roll too big uuhghhhhggg

[tranquil otter]

multiplayer ass build bro what am i doing

[slow iris]

negative gros michel

[white zodiac]

this was the 9 that I had (excluding grimbo)

[tranquil otter]

this what happens when you down bad on planet cards bro

[pale wolf]

just deleted 20 gigs of balatro footage from my phone

[cosmic seal]

i just made a poopy

[novel rain]

Just did my first pairs run

[white zodiac]

I need to do that

[terse vale]

me toooo

[pale wolf]

ive prob deleted like half a tb total throughout my balatro career

[terse vale]

[tranquil otter]

what no mars does to an mf

4oak build with level 6 4oak 😭

[white zodiac]

my japan and turkiye media take up a lot of my storage and I actually wanna keep that

[pale wolf]

your what

[white zodiac]

my footage

and pics

[pale wolf]

back that shit up and delete it smh

vacation storage issues 🙄

[novel rain]

Jokers used: Half Joker, Blackboard, Gluttonous Joker, Constellation, and Supernova

[white zodiac]

i do that when im at my home office

it's been like a few months since ive last been

[orchid comet]

ketchup face or midas touched?

[pale wolf]

that isnt Midas

[orchid comet]

this is very imp I'm going for $400

[orchid comet]

midas touched

[pale wolf]

egg

[orchid comet]

he's turned golden

[latent egret]

since you alr got 18 egg is the play

[orchid comet]

it's yellow deck

[tranquil otter]

I wanna do a vagabond run but the pants are so good on this deck D:

[pale wolf]

both?

[tranquil otter]

true but awkward

[pale wolf]

they arent exclusive

how

[tranquil otter]

not much space to work with for other shi

and they kinda lean two different directions

maybe flush house

[white zodiac]

no they don't lol

[pale wolf]

pants wants you to play lots of hands (specific hand type but still hands played)

thats perfect for vagglebond

[tranquil otter]

in that sense true

[royal bobcat]

😳

[pale wolf]

in what sense do they lean apart

one is tarot gen and one is scaling mult

[white zodiac]

pants scale too fast early and I get one less tarot card

fwp

[tranquil otter]

trueee

not what i was thinking

[royal bobcat]

Literally crying and sobbing

[tranquil otter]

i was just thinking that pants more lean into some basic two pair spam build where you just get an xmult joker and a blue seal andwin

[pale wolf]

I just saw a wacky waving inflatable arm flailing tube man

[unreal iron]

alright im gonna lose it

[cosmic sun]

dna aint real

[tranquil otter]

while vaga leans more into like a get a cool deck and play a higher tier hand

[unreal iron]

how does one reliably do gold stake plasma

shit is worse than nebula honestly

[alpine basalt]

welp this runs boutta be either dog or goated depending on what I get in the next 2 shops

[tranquil otter]

idk

[pale wolf]

naaah vagglebond is simply insane tarot gen, you use it for whatever it gives you best

[tranquil otter]

true

[pale wolf]

which is lots of gold cards usually

[white zodiac]

no I still play pairs usually, the good enhancements are usually held

2 2oak at best

[tranquil otter]

really?

[alpine basalt]

ZEUS! GIVE ME A SWASH AND MY LIFE IS YOURS

[tranquil otter]

i always figured vaga was good for like 4oak or flush house

[cosmic seal]

THE BEAN

[tranquil otter]

since those scale crazy

[pale wolf]

it is good for that but its not good for only that

its just busted

[tranquil otter]

real

[thick haven]

vaga would scale crazy with fortune teller too, no?

[orchid comet]

yes

[tranquil otter]

its pretty meh actually

[wicked sequoia]

sometimes you gotta ankh

[tranquil otter]

lot of work for a relatively average output

[orchid comet]

I haven't tried that but I tried carto + bp + ft which was crazy

[prime valve]

What the

[orchid comet]

2 tarot per round aside from shop

[wicked sequoia]

I"m crazy baybee

[white zodiac]

wow an entire rare to do what bus does

[tranquil otter]

fortune teller pretty mid overall, mostly just there if you dont find scaling +mult early i think

[wicked sequoia]

I dont like fortune teller

too expensive

[tranquil otter]

only upside is fool and emporer existing

[white zodiac]

it's just a retroactive niche

[blissful bronze]

poor man's chad

[tranquil otter]

true no reason why its 6 bucks its a common

[wicked sequoia]

yeah especially for the mult it gives early on

[white zodiac]

replacing whatever other early game mult scaler early

[tranquil otter]

chad at home

[white zodiac]

if able

[tranquil otter]

ft is buns early because it costs a lot to buy him, hes usually not more than like 5 mult, and you have to find a way to buy a lot of tarots while also trying to build your economy early, which usually doesnt work out

[pale wolf]

FUCK purple joker

[white zodiac]

some call it the worst mult scaler

[white zodiac]

oh

[orchid comet]

I think it's better to just keep him on the side and focus on buying tarots so it scales

[blissful bronze]

he's a joker of circumstance

[white zodiac]

im purple and im a joke

[orchid comet]

it can get to a lot by the time u reach higher antes

[pale wolf]

i fucking hate purple joker he sucks and has the wrong name in game

[orchid comet]

what's the purple joker

[pale wolf]

the one that gives tarot mult

[orchid comet]

fool scores +80

[alpine basalt]

WOW

I gotta lock in and win this one

thats a huge sticker to pull

[pale wolf]

maybe the ugliest negative

never seen that before

[white zodiac]

why does he look like that

[pale wolf]

'why is he ugly'
'is it on purpose'

[orchid comet]

we're all beautiful in our own ways okay class?

[barren wigeon]

if delayed grat gave 5 per discard

[blissful bronze]

maybe he looks like a fortune teller
oh wait

[barren wigeon]

amazing joker

[heavy heron]

yall ain’t seen the straight idol build

[barren wigeon]

actually nevermind

fine joker

[orchid comet]

with green deck it gives 3 per discard

[barren wigeon]

if it did that even, itd be okay

[fading cobalt]

This run is just casually giving me every scaling x mult joker

[pale wolf]

you know who actually looks like a fortune teller

[alpine basalt]

rip lost the run

[barren wigeon]

fortune teller

[autumn vector]

Oh no

[orchid comet]

sadd

[alpine basalt]

swapped tarot man for rtb and it didn't scale up enough (underscored by 100)

[barren wigeon]

doc put del grat in B tier?

[pale wolf]

this guy will tell your fortune

[barren wigeon]

okay I guess

[pale wolf]

when

[orchid comet]

he's awesome

[barren wigeon]

right now

[pale wolf]

hes never done a serious tier list

[thick haven]

hes streaming rn

[orchid comet]

not at all useful in scoring but so cool

[pale wolf]

woah

is it serious

or just vibes again

[alpine basalt]

welp, guess we going for a straight build this run

[barren wigeon]

idk

squimbo is in S

all the jokers look about right

[alpine basalt]

HOLY NEXT SHOP

[barren wigeon]

aaaaand he put 8 ball in A

that just isnt good

[orchid comet]

W

[orchid comet]

I see a lot of ppl buying 8 ball and superposition

[uncut slate]

yeah it's so funny that rebate/faceless give you $5+ for using your discards and delayed grat gives you $4 for not

[orchid comet]

but doesn't faceless kinda ruin your hand

[uncut slate]

not really

[white zodiac]

idk I tuned out when I saw donation influenced conversation into the chat

[barren wigeon]

rebate gives you 5 PER DISCARD and del grat gives you 4 for not using any discard

[barren wigeon]

no?

[orchid comet]

since ur throwing away three of ur most scoring playing card

aside from aces

[barren wigeon]

you do know not all builds use face cards right

[uncut slate]

yeah but i don't get many points from my playing cards in most builds

[barren wigeon]

straight builds commonly dont

pair builds dont NEED it

[uncut slate]

so I don't care which cards I'm playing as long as they make the poker hand that procs my jokers

[barren wigeon]

lots of builds dont use face cards

[orchid comet]

that makes sense

I just assumed if you don't need face cards you'd deck fix and get rid of them

[uncut slate]

i usually try to keep the jack high so i can take advantage of photochad if i find it but usually that doesn't end up mattering

[white zodiac]

that's only for rtb or ace tech

[white zodiac]

running straights and keeping rtb active is not something I want to do

for long

[uncut slate]

if you don't care what cards you play you don't really care if they're face cards

so no reason to disable them

[barren wigeon]

counterpoint

[pale wolf]

delayed grat i think got overlooked when they changed blue stake to what it is now

[barren wigeon]

shortcut

[white zodiac]

face cards are econ first, scoring leverage second

[uncut slate]

$6 delgrat is still not good tbh

[pale wolf]

It's significantly better

[barren wigeon]

6 bucks a round isnt bad

[uncut slate]

it's better for sure

[pale wolf]

it means it's not just a worse version of golden Joker

[uncut slate]

it's actually worth taking yeah

[wintry ice]

my first forced obelisk reset in a while

[white zodiac]

it has a higher base number

[alpine basalt]

BRO

[barren wigeon]

uhh

[uncut slate]

ideal delgrat to me is independent of number of discards

[alpine basalt]

MERRY ANDY AND 5 HANDS AND I CAN"T DRAW A STRAIGHT?

[barren wigeon]

are we gonna address the elephant in the room

[wintry ice]

i played too many high cards

[uncut slate]

just give me money for not using discards

[orchid comet]

what is that?

not u

[white zodiac]

for shame

[orchid comet]

what is that 😭

[barren wigeon]

OH is that rebate?

[wintry ice]

the joker on the right gives 1 voucher and coupon tag per ante

[white zodiac]

andrew technically doesn't increase your odds of finding more straights

[orchid comet]

wouldn't joker display show what card u need to discard if it was

[barren wigeon]

oh

[barren wigeon]

true

[pale wolf]

I just got a cool idea for a joker

[white zodiac]

red card

[winter pike]

disagree

[unreal iron]

for anyone who's wondering what a lvl 49 straight looks like:

and that 7 WHOLE STICKERS down

[fading cobalt]

The build is peak

[barren wigeon]

is that the best joker in the game???

AND ITS NEGATIVE???

love it

[fading cobalt]

I had constellation before ante 8 boss but sold it cuz of verdant leaf

[unreal iron]

i found 2 nat negatives this run

somehow

[uncut slate]

burnt joker previously? or?

[barren wigeon]

epic

[unreal iron]

blue seals and shortcut :333

[random ice]

Lmao

Ante 2 photochad

We're winning

[fading cobalt]

Burnt joker would not help scale straight level 😭

Unless you had good deckfixing

[uncut slate]

shortcut and four fingers

[fading cobalt]

How often is your first discard a straight

[unreal iron]

this run also marks 1 gold stake win on every deck (2nd account)

[fading cobalt]

I guess you could use your hands as discards but eh

[uncut slate]

shortcut and four fingers

[unreal iron]

c+ is done technically

[fading cobalt]

Ok yeah fair enough you could get burnt value from that

[uncut slate]

but yeah a billion blue seals also makes sense

[unreal iron]

feeners was perishable

[blissful bronze]

insert brick wall meme

[uncut slate]

yeah shortcut by itself probably isn't getting much out of mr burns

[fading cobalt]

I would've said the opposite

Four fingers would suffer from that

Not shortcut

[fading cobalt]

Hey thats not fair I was just slow and didn't realise the potential

[uncut slate]

i would think both are needed for consistent burnt value but idk

[fading cobalt]

True but of the 2 shortcut has more value imo

[blissful bronze]

it actually gets decent value just not every blind

[uncut slate]

yeah that's fair

but that's not level 49 material

a billion blue seals and an early crystal ball would do it

[balmy ridge]

the tooth triggers matador?

[fading cobalt]

I'm missing 3 vouchers that require me to pick up shit vouchers I dont like grabbing

[uncut slate]

matador is peak comedy ngl

[unreal iron]

only debuffed cards and "set {thing} to {something}" trigger matador

[balmy ridge]

ok

ty

[unreal iron]

i think psychic, mouth and eye also trigger but im not sure why you'd want to do that

[fading cobalt]

That would be funny ngl

[uncut slate]

i think i had flint trigger it one time

i don't remember

[blissful bronze]

planet, tarrot and magic trick?

[fading cobalt]

Every dollar you lose gives 8 dollars

[pale wolf]

Skipping Stone (Uncommon)
When any joker scales, 1 in 10 chance to scale it again

[fading cobalt]

Planet, magic, hieroglyph and magic ball

[white zodiac]

"illegal hands"

[uncut slate]

1 in 10 is really small tho

[fading cobalt]

I'd say its decent

Any less and its op

[pale wolf]

theres oops potential and some jokers scale quite often

[white zodiac]

works with the current meta

[pale wolf]

maybe 1 in 8 is valid

[uncut slate]

like in endless playing 5 gigaretriggered lucky cards into your kitty cat probably gets decent value but in most runs it's probably gonna trigger like five times total which might matter

[fading cobalt]

What is mime doing there

[blissful bronze]

honestly just shoot for constellation runs to force value from the planet voucher
and thats heirroglyph value

[white zodiac]

why we nerfing retroactive jokers again 💔

[random ice]

Blue seal

And Steel and Gold

[fading cobalt]

Fair enough

[pale wolf]

hahaha

[fading cobalt]

Yeah I just dont find value from planet voucher often enough, and I dont see any value in grabbing hieroglyph at ALL

[uncut slate]

thoughts on something similar, but retriggering non-scoring joker effects 1/10 chance?

[tranquil otter]

okaaaayyyyy]

[uncut slate]

like 1/10 chance to double your golden joker or spaceman or something

[valid abyss]

me when my soul shows up in an arcana pack

[fading cobalt]

So like retriggering econ and space man?

[uncut slate]

and scaling

[fading cobalt]

And scaling??

[uncut slate]

scaling doesn't score

[tranquil otter]

sounds bad, really low chance, would just be too inconsistent to rely on for anything

[fading cobalt]

Wait elaborate

[fading cobalt]

You confused me

Scaling what?

Like rocket ship?

[tranquil otter]

scaling jokers when they scale it retriggers the scaling, so they scale more

its not complicated bro

[fading cobalt]

Yeah but he said non scoring jokers

[tranquil otter]

non scoring joker effects

[fading cobalt]

Theres so few non scoring scaling jokers

[tranquil otter]

scaling isnt scoring

[fading cobalt]

Correct

But that wasnt what I was confused about

[tranquil otter]

anything that any joker does that isnt the act of adding or multiplying your chips or mult

[fading cobalt]

[white zodiac]

stop nerfing retroactive scalers

doc doesn't know parking bug or tech this is wack

yeah I can't take this list seriously anymore

[fading cobalt]

Am I wrong or is rocket ship the only non scoring scaling joker??

[fading cobalt]

What list?

[white zodiac]

it's the only proactive econ scaler

[white zodiac]

joker tier list stream

[fading cobalt]

Drspectred?

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[white zodiac]

mhm

[balmy ridge]

https://youtu.be/6vh4cSbkhkw

doc is doing the thing

i think its ragebait he put lucky cat and cavendish in top tier

[white zodiac]

that makes sense though

[unreal iron]

lucky cat IS that good

lucky cards are the best enhancement in the game

[balmy ridge]

if your deck is full of lucky cards and you have retriggers then sure you might get +0.1x mult

[unreal iron]

cat scales as much as hologram (x0.25) with even more potential to scale faster than it

[white zodiac]

what doesn't make sense is parking being the lowest in the list of econ jokers

[balmy ridge]

cat's .25? thought it was .1

that makse sense then

[white zodiac]

it's 0.25x per successful trigger

[balmy ridge]

but like.. square joker top tier??

[fading cobalt]

Fortune teller and scholar been underrated

[white zodiac]

yeah

[balmy ridge]

square joker > bus?

[fading cobalt]

Yes

[fading cobalt]

Yes

[unreal iron]

yes

[coral hill]

Highest canio i ever got

[unreal iron]

chip jokers are very important

[white zodiac]

chip luxury

[brave goblet]

Guess who showed up after winning

[balmy ridge]

wee better

[fading cobalt]

And you can scale square joker easier than rtb while not being restricted on face card builds

[unreal iron]

yeah duh thing is its a rare and needs setup prior

no hanging 2s, strength kings and aces

[night bridge]

Should I? i still havent got directors cut

[white zodiac]

rebate better than other econ jokers, put them all in f tier

[willow frost]

no

[fading cobalt]

Sell showman maybe

[willow frost]

just make money

[balmy ridge]

im not saying square belongs in f tier i just dont think its outstanding

[hollow temple]

Dude I am one lucky bastard!

I got the fucking hermit!