🕹・game-discussion

[shell current]

So you’re telling me… 20 hands on average for a hung man? Buddy stick with me for 100 hands

[north schooner]

hung man, suit changers, death, fool

justice

[prime valve]

Vagabond and campfire.

[pale wolf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1379214645742796911/1402463106319257691/screen-20250805-204338.mp4?ex=6905620d&is=6904108d&hm=ccf79725927800cb86c3e950bc0da528dbeac86362e4496a8d06c7a1edef31ec& I got you

[north schooner]

Get a purple seal or two and dupe them to hell

[pale wolf]

one vagabond and campfire coming right up

[valid abyss]

woah ive never seen a poly vagabond

so cool

[prime valve]

Hell yeah

[north schooner]

You were going for the sticker on cola, right?

[pale wolf]

yea

[prime valve]

I had this run yesterday

Somehow was working

[shell current]

Also idol use case is never as a build around, it’s like something you can sell out of your econ joker in ante 8 and carry a strength and a suit changer into the boss blind for a 4x on your base mult

[cloud sinew]

balatro

[random ice]

Negative idol is great because you're buying the service of never having idol in the shop again

[cloud sinew]

strength+lovers is the way you run idol like that

[north schooner]

Harvey Milk Plaza ca. 2004

[shell current]

+2

[north schooner]

My high score is from a walkie talkie flush house build to hack idol what

[pale wolf]

another vagglebond game https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1379214645742796911/1387960375340957736/InShot_20250626_205510602.mp4?ex=69055b54&is=690409d4&hm=e78d391a285daf2bc41e2410f8fa433d31b53f9dc84f8cc00e64d4860c2f36a3&

[north schooner]

Oooh vampabond

[valid abyss]

wigglebond

[prime valve]

Like to see these kind of runs.

[north schooner]

I never had it fully online, but I kept chasing the idol with strengths and justice

[pale wolf]

might have to quit balatro

69 gold wins

[north schooner]

blue joker acrobat is a choice

It's pi in the morning why am I not asleep

[pale wolf]

when you see antisynergy on eternals assume it was survival for early antes

[north schooner]

👋

[fossil chasm]

JESUS CHRIST WHY IS EVERYTHING ZERO

[mortal nimbus]

I've had this happen with modding so look at that first

[lunar zealot]

the arm

more like

[manic talon]

old arm be like

[fossil chasm]

Oh yeah, i haven't opened balatro in a while

[pale wolf]

modding or a very unique prepatch arm game

[lunar zealot]

ok wait i need a fucking challenge where everything starts at base 0 chips x base 0 mult

[manic talon]

i dont think the arm kills every level at the same time

[pale wolf]

very unique

[lunar zealot]

well maybe just base 0 chips cause otherwise you cant beat round 1

[pale wolf]

10 jugular tags and 3 copies of burglar

[manic talon]

sheet suggestion finisher blind lookin ass
Azure Arm: sets all hand levels to zero

[pale wolf]

Ardent Arm

[manic talon]

i dont think thats a color

[pale wolf]

why was bell cerulean and not blue

[manic talon]

cerulean is a color

[pale wolf]

and

how about the alliteration

[manic talon]

blue balls

[pale wolf]

blue bell

[manic talon]

thats a type of cheese

[pale wolf]

I need to reiterate: hank green mightve invented the myth of gros michel being artificial banana flavor

[manic talon]

so like wtf is the banana flavor based on

[pale wolf]

just like

bananaish

[manic talon]

so they just give up on the flavoring basically

[pale wolf]

prob like a singular chemical flavoring also found in bananas, but not comprising the entire banana fruits flavor

like how vanilla has more than just vanillin in it

[manic talon]

insane judgement pull

[random ice]

Grab that delayed

MONEEYY

[manic talon]

a second insane judgement has hit the run

[random ice]

Oh it's eternal

[random ice]

Lmao

[manic talon]

ok this is just getting ridiculous

insane judgement hits all around

[wintry ice]

insane

[fading cobalt]

I think a balatro seed just fried my ps5

[wintry ice]

balatro is a triple a game

[pale wolf]

My phone doesn't run on AAAs

[fading cobalt]

I started a new run, it froze on a queen with a red background, I couldn't do anything at all, now the screen is black

[fading cobalt]

Probably something stronger

[fading cobalt]

I had to unplug the ps5 vro

Balatro seed was on roids or some shit

[manic talon]

I LOVE BLOODSTONE GRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

This is the 3rd run in a row right after i lost my streak and all 3 has been free wins, im gonna crash out

[fading cobalt]

IT CRASHED MY FUCKING PLAYSTATION 💀

I got a system error and it said my PlayStation recovered

[manic talon]

balatro.exe creepypasta

[fading cobalt]

Lmfaoo

Nah fr

[summer jay]

Since when can you get brainstorm from judgement

[manic talon]

since forever

[summer jay]

[fading cobalt]

You can get any joker from judgement except legendaries

Ignore that

[summer jay]

I only get commons

[civic moth]

The room will adress it.

[summer jay]

Address*

[fading cobalt]

I've gotten obelisk and blueprint before

[civic moth]

Thank you 😊

[summer jay]

[manic talon]

that means youre due

[summer jay]

You're C

[winter pike]

i love probabilty

[fading cobalt]

++

[summer jay]

C(ucumber)

[fading cobalt]

C(arrot)

[summer jay]

C(ool whip)

[fading cobalt]

You like my whip(ped cream)

[summer jay]

Hell naw

[fading cobalt]

??

[summer jay]

Gay joke

[fading cobalt]

Whats gay about whipped cream? 💔

[summer jay]

[slate lance]

Dont make fun of the eternal riff raff
Had to survive somehow

[manic talon]

Eternal riff raff is straight up just good

[fading cobalt]

I got a negative riff raff from negative tag once with a full build

It was just sitting there till end game 😭

[slate lance]

Full as in u had all joker slots

[slate lance]

Hey, free sticker at least

[slate lance]

Rlly? 😭

[shell dagger]

Especially on black deck

[slate lance]

Ig so yea it did carey me

Im thinking of swapping fist and faceless for brainstorm and holo

[manic talon]

Its not the ideal but eternal riff raff is still an insane value generator

[shell dagger]

Burnt brainstorm and hologram should win easily

[fading cobalt]

I think I was on white stake

[slate lance]

Ah 😭 damn

[winter pike]

yes

[slate lance]

If i fail this somehow 😭

[shell dagger]

Maybe not easily on black deck

[slate lance]

Dayum 😭

[shell dagger]

But it’s a good start

[winter pike]

negative golden jimbo from the riff raff

[fading cobalt]

Negative golden joker might be my favourite negative

I love black n gold designs

[slate lance]

Ok wait

[pale wolf]

deck that starts you with 1 of each rank

[slate lance]

Do i risk selling blue joker for the diet cola and grabber voucher

[pale wolf]

is boss next

[slate lance]

Cola might allow me to get a full 1x mult for my holo later

Yea

[fading cobalt]

Whats your deck size

[slate lance]

55

[fading cobalt]

What hand are you playing?

[pale wolf]

id keep the money

[slate lance]

Pairs

Theyre at lvl 12

[fading cobalt]

Probably ignore cola

[slate lance]

Yea but grabber

Im on black deck

[pale wolf]

do you win in one hand

[slate lance]

Not rn sadly

[pale wolf]

then id stay as is

[slate lance]

Ig so

My holos only a 2x right now

[pale wolf]

you need money to scale hologram more than an extra hand

[slate lance]

Thats fair but also

I do have riff raff

So id get a joker regardless

Could be econ

[fading cobalt]

What the hell is this tag 😭😭

[slate lance]

Meteor

Mega celestial pack

[pale wolf]

celestial

[fading cobalt]

Ohh

[manic talon]

A deck that starts with 1 of each rank, but also adds 39 new ranks

[fading cobalt]

Plasma deck is best deck for Completionist and C++ tbh

[fading cobalt]

Do you have to find mega celestial at later antes or is it complete rng to show up at any ante

[willow frost]

the 163 of clubs is real

[pale wolf]

why would it go up that high

[manic talon]

It can only show up ante 2+

[pale wolf]

if I were going to answer this, I would find the answer by looking it up on balatrowiki.org

[manic talon]

The tag right

If its just packs it can show up anytime

[fading cobalt]

That would've been great to know before I started rerolling runs on ante 1 to find the tag

[fading cobalt]

Yeah

[manic talon]

Lmao

[pale wolf]

meteor tag should only be able to give you ceres

[slate lance]

Idk lol

Anaglyph is pretty decent for

[manic talon]

Imagine not having encyclopedic balatro knowledge

[slate lance]

C++

[small narwhal]

when are we getting the cbt joker

[slate lance]

😭

[pale wolf]

I do have encyclopedic balatro knowledge, it's bookmarked in my browser

[small narwhal]

I heard 2027

[manic talon]

Yea but what happens if every electricty on earth is gone and someone ask you a balatro question

[small narwhal]

when bad blood blind update you get to fight Jimbos evil brother Glimbo

[pale wolf]

I would probably kill them and eat them

can't pass up a good opportunity for a meal

[white zodiac]

nobody is going to ask one irl

[manic talon]

If you answer them correctly they wouldve let you do that

[slate lance]

Omg the games not giving me any standard packs now that i have holo

[pale wolf]

Wait so it was a trick question

they already knew the answer

[fading cobalt]

If you said I dont know I would've checked balatrowiki

[white zodiac]

obby licks could never

[manic talon]

Well yea, how else would they know if you answer correctly or not

[manic talon]

You dont know that

[pale wolf]

so killing and eating them is definitely the correct option regardless

[wintry ice]

gets no chip jokers with obelisk

[manic talon]

Yea but if you answer them correctly, it wouldnt be a crime because they wouldve let you do it

[willow frost]

for the meme

[white zodiac]

it's been two years

[slate lance]

Holy shit wait ok
Im on ante 8, should i do loyalty for blue?
I can work towards loyalty so that it triggers during the boss

[white zodiac]

they'll never know

[slate lance]

Its crimson heart so it might get debuffed anyway but

Or would i be risking too much doing that

[pale wolf]

I'm not sure thats how that works

[manic talon]

You would know if you had an encyclopedic knowledge of balatro when the electricity is gone

[white zodiac]

depending on chips on planet levels, burnt can die

[manic talon]

Its how they will govern the world after the collapse

[slate lance]

Burnt is eternal

And my pair rn is level 27

400 x 28 base

[white zodiac]

blue dies

[slate lance]

Thats reasonable

[manic talon]

With burnt brainstorm, i dont think blue does much, having loyalty be a winning hand with only a 1 in 6 chance of it eating shit is fine

[wintry ice]

it's also a hard sticker out of the way

[white zodiac]

prob contributing 1/8 of your chips rn

[slate lance]

I got loyalty

Next reroll had photo but i dont think thats worth

Especially since 0 retriggers atm

[white zodiac]

black makes x6 easier to proc for finisher blind

[slate lance]

Yeah

[pale wolf]

I found a slug

slug Joker when

[white zodiac]

snail bob jimbo

[slate lance]

Ok hold on now i have a choice between loyalty and seeing double

Aka the club and other suit x mult

Loyalty might still be the play here

Ye ok nvm even if i sold loyalry i cant afford double

[manic talon]

loyalty is the worse joker to sticker

[slate lance]

I might get it rn then

Wish me luck

[white zodiac]

one of the worst

get it on black

also not as good on crimson when you burn more hands and let it run its rng

[slate lance]

DID ITTT

YESSS

FYCK U BLACK DECK

[manic talon]

nice

[slate lance]

NEVERRR PLAYING BLACK DEVK AGAIN

[white zodiac]

[manic talon]

it also straight up lies to you if it gets debuffed

[white zodiac]

the best part of loyalty card

[willow frost]

GGGG

[white zodiac]

not being loyal

[willow frost]

send sc

reenshot

[fervent wolf]

@hardy fable THANK YOU

[white zodiac]

prob just left out of relief

[slate lance]

I lowkey do like loyalty card tho
With burglar could be peak

[hardy fable]

insane synergy me, myself and I

[fervent wolf]

I won the run EASILY

[hardy fable]

not s surprise😎

[fervent wolf]

I am sorry for ever doubting the AWESOME Joker called Stuntman!

[white zodiac]

it's not good with or without unfortunately

[slate lance]

I mean ofc its not THAT good but

It could work

[manic talon]

acrobat at home

[white zodiac]

I can think of 125 jokers that work more frequently than mister loyal

[white zodiac]

acrobat when he feels like it

[amber vigil]

Order appeared in the shop just before the violet vessel

🔥🔥🔥🔥

[manic talon]

its like using splash with flower pot

its a crutch

but atleast burglar is a good joker

[white zodiac]

yar

or bb with aj (those who know)

[fervent wolf]

I had the best stuntman run

[willow frost]

acrobat working from home

[pale wolf]

yogurt

😄

[idle bear]

idk if this is the right place to ask this but are there any mods for balatro on mobile?

[pale wolf]

#1209506514763522108

when you first join the server it asks if you're interested in modding too, coulda read it

[pale wolf]

oh wait you mean modding mobile, #📜・modding-rules

against rules

[idle bear]

I mean it has been a while since I joined and I wasn't interested at the time since I was only playing on switch for a while, so I feel like you could've been a little more respectful on that, but otherwise thanks forf answering my question

[amber vigil]

Violet vessel about to gape me a new one:

the order and red seal steel 7 i found in the last shop:

[floral delta]

yea think its winnable even with eyes closed

got hologram just now, square from ante 2-3 and trousers first round

[left sorrel]

How much ×mult is hologram?

Because if its higher than 2× , its better to copy hologram

Ok i just read you just got it

But have that in mind! Gl

[floral delta]

did smth risky and stupid but paid off anyway

sold the blueprint for jimbo

and now we got

and got dusk stickered as well

[manic talon]

Jimbo > blueprint confirmed

[viral raft]

if it's ante 1 yes

[sudden crater]

I've tried so many times but I keep losing on Orange Stake </3

[viral raft]

that's okay

with the time you'll manage to make it work

try to be consistent, high stakes ask you to be consistent with the chip requiment while the joker and your econ is low at the start

Basically: play pair and do minmax

[manic talon]

Nah its every ante

[viral raft]

tbh Jimbo sucks but the fact that cost 2$ makes it good fgor interest in ante 1

Blueprint have the problem that cost alot

like really alot

[manic talon]

Infinite blueprints wont win you the game but infinite jimbos will

[violet sparrow]

is astronomer good early game yellow deck

[manic talon]

Astronomer is a solid joker in general

[viral raft]

Astronomer is good in general, it's a joker that makes planets free, you can actually make combos like Constellation or Campfire

[earnest pelican]

How could you say that the best Legendary in the game sucks

[viral raft]

also making the celestial packs and planets free makes it a econ joker, like Chaos the clown with the rerolls

[analog mulch]

What a match made in heaven 💞

[viral raft]

Looks inside

also not that good, the plant appears and you're cooked basically

[unreal elbow]

keep raised fist or opt for supernova?

[viral raft]

If you're playing lowpoker hands, super nova

[analog mulch]

Neither one really does anything

Considering they trigger after ancient

[unreal elbow]

i am a bit cooked in regards with joker orders

so before ancient would be better?

[mortal nimbus]

no, it doesn't matter here

[viral raft]

ancient Joker works as a scoring one, doesn't matter

[mortal nimbus]

ancient will always trigger first

[unreal elbow]

alright alright

[viral raft]

It only matters when theres other scoring joking that does +mult (Smiley face, the 4 sin jokers, fibonacci, etc.) i

[orchid comet]

yo

[viral raft]

if you have one of thopses jokers just punt Ancient joker on the right

[viral raft]

Hi Light

[orchid comet]

hello

[unreal elbow]

yes, thanks for the help papu! :D

[viral raft]

How are you going?

[orchid comet]

I had one of the best runs yet and died to needle

cuz I moved dna to bp and tried to copy because of muscle memory 💔

[viral raft]

np asha! anything you can ask in the server idk

[orchid comet]

pretty good

how about you

and tyfa

[viral raft]

good, playing some isaac and then i'll probabvly play Balala

[viral raft]

GG

[orchid comet]

ill try do something similar later whenever I play again

[orchid comet]

I don't understand that but I do hope you have fun

[unreal elbow]

violet vessel loves me sooo bad omfg ENOUGH OF THIS MADNESS

it's joever. again.

at least i can reroll this time

[wintry ice]

i'm surprised that it's a problem in white stake with aj

[orchid comet]

hello vic

[viral raft]

I'm playing The binding of isaac, and then i'll play Balatro

[lament crater]

hi

[viral raft]

Hi Yukie

[orchid comet]

hello

[lament crater]

how's it going papu

mistyped...

[violet sparrow]

WHEEL OF FORTUNE GAVE ME A POLYCHROME

[lunar zealot]

why do you not

[dense wraith]

black deck with every joker being rental on round 1 🔥

[lunar zealot]

play around violet vessel

you know it exists

[viral raft]

Good, playing The binding of isaac rn

[lunar zealot]

play every run as if you'll get vv

[dense wraith]

literally every way I could've gotten a joker was a rental trap to kill me

[vocal rose]

half joker was the move

ice cream was a throw

[slate lance]

Half joker is peak

[viral raft]

Half like and then survive until ante 2

[slate lance]

Lets u one shot with pairs for like the first 4 or 5 rounds

[vocal rose]

check for skips too

[vocal rose]

only first 3

[slate lance]

Rlly?

😔

[vocal rose]

600 for a pair with 10+

[slate lance]

Well maybe a 3oakbwould be

A one shot atp

[vocal rose]

top up skip, investment, orbital

could save you

[dense wraith]

was gonna restart but I'm gonna see how this run goes anyway

luckily there's an investment skip

[lament crater]

fire, i still have to clean around the house and do other shit i believe, no new gold stake for me today

[lament crater]

temperance value!

[dense wraith]

nvm I die before I can get my investment tag money

not the roughest black deck start, but it is a painful one with all those rentals

[jagged valve]

Hmm

Do I... Risk this DNA while winning safely this run

[atomic cargo]

Yes

[atomic cargo]

Risk it all

[jagged valve]

What replace

Scary?

[atomic cargo]

Baseball

[jagged valve]

Baseball is my best source rn

[atomic cargo]

That was a joke

Replace scary

[jagged valve]

X4.5

[atomic cargo]

Or agate

Depending on what your playing

[white zodiac]

you can toggle it my fav

[dense wraith]

here I am with half joker again, do I really take that as eternal, or is it all I got

[wintry ice]

you could replace cert if you already got something worth copying

[wintry ice]

black deck had the space for it

and like

if you don't get early scoring you die on it

[dense wraith]

I get that, but I was thinking it wouldn't be that valuable later on

[violet sparrow]

goated run?

[white zodiac]

black deck you can afford to have like 3 mid eternals that don't translate to your final build late game

[dense wraith]

ok so you can be less stubborn with mid eternals then on black deck

[vocal rose]

you don’t have to be stubborn with eternals on all decks except painted

[vocal quartz]

look how it’s perfectly sorted by rank and suit

[empty seal]

i may be noskill but i am happy

[vocal quartz]

god damn

[jagged valve]

WTFFF

[empty seal]

crazy seed, saw mime in the shop, wasnt gonna take it, opened a buffoon pack and got baron

same with chad and photo

[jagged valve]

Do I replace this with like any joker???

[dense wraith]

also red card can be good scaling but I think it's a trap here since I wouldn't be able to purchase any boosters afterward

[jagged valve]

Seltzer???

[empty seal]

the most youre getting out of seltzer right now is agate retriggers

so yeah sell seltzer and take that soul

[white zodiac]

red card isn't needed now when you already have a mult source

[jagged valve]

Holy peak

[empty seal]

dude

worst part is i cant even take holo because wtf do i sell

[dense wraith]

I know I already took the half joker, red card here is way too risky anyway

[quartz ember]

baron

useless ahh jonkler

[dense wraith]

wait I'm set for a bit

like, a while

[white zodiac]

🏃‍♂️‍➡️

[unreal island]

white stake type build 🥀

[dense wraith]

No I didn't take runner that'd be stupid

[white zodiac]

not taking runner was stupid

[wintry ice]

i don't know why you wouldn't take runner

[dense wraith]

mind you I already have mult scaling, + half joker can't work with runner

[white zodiac]

that was your unconditional chip scaler

[wintry ice]

i mean you don't want to score much when you're playing straights with it anyways

also you have no chips 🥀

[unreal island]

Still a white stake build 🥀

[viral raft]

slowly turning whiter

[white zodiac]

runner and half being toggled on and off is runners best case scenario for time via scaling

[viral raft]

Baron build is the Whitest build ever, literally just works to naneinf

and photochad

[white zodiac]

you're not gonna have a chip source mid/late game where you're either not gonna score enough or will die to some funny flint or wall

[wintry ice]

is quintuple madness the blackest build

[tawdry burrow]

Hooooooo

[white zodiac]

mayhaps

[tawdry burrow]

(I lost to the boss blind lol)

[dense wraith]

also I'm on black deck, runner is gonna scale quite slower and also be riskier

[tawdry burrow]

Seed is 2UGC9WSX if anyone wants it

[white zodiac]

this doesn't matter, I made a 45 chip runner work

[wintry ice]

anything higher than 100 chips is good enough

hell 50 chips can be good enough

[white zodiac]

and yeah

[vocal rose]

how does it scale slower

you still get 15 chips per straight

thats the average amount you'll get from runner on ANY deck

[wintry ice]

you have less hands to dig for straights

[cloud sinew]

balala

[wintry ice]

i think that was the argument

[cloud sinew]

yeah

[hardy fable]

who needs scaling chip jokers when you have 250 chips

[cloud sinew]

runner is worse on black deck because you can't dig for and play as many straights

[wintry ice]

even then drawing a straight with just discards isn't too terrible

[cloud sinew]

me with my 745 chips on base pair

[wintry ice]

"who needs chip jokers when you have a chip joker"

what did he mean by this

[hardy fable]

uhh, I still offer like a +0.5x score, yeah yeah, I did the math trust me

[white zodiac]

seeded cause someone failed on this seed and I got curious

[wintry ice]

campfire const

[white zodiac]

puny const

[hardy fable]

I'm better than runner

Source: tierlist with someone that has no bias whatsoever

[vocal rose]

you are better than runner tho

[misty remnant]

This game sucks

[zealous saffron]

just had the cavendish pop on me the first time

i should buy a lottery ticket rn

[wintry ice]

oh well

[wintry ice]

carry

[white zodiac]

don't need that for another 22 antes anyways

[jagged valve]

Green Deck conquered

Ill go endless now and DISAPPOINT MYSELF probably

[white zodiac]

campfire was even lower I think, that seed was buns

[wintry ice]

wild

[hardy fable]

idk man that deck seems pretty red to me

[jagged valve]

I meant

Green stake

Im sorry

[white zodiac]

maybe he has grayscale vision

[jagged valve]

Thought u were making a pun before I realized the mistake I made

[jagged valve]

Is that a type of colorblindness

I already conquered green deck anyways

[white zodiac]

no

[jagged valve]

• on white stake

[white zodiac]

some animals have colorblindness that mirrors a grayscale palette

[jagged valve]

Wow no wayh

[jagged valve]

I'm aware

What am I supposed to do here

I hate you The Eye

[next thistle]

any tips on how to beat the green deck?

[wintry ice]

beat rounds in as few hands as possible if you don't have a scaling mult joker

[jagged valve]

Do I play the 8 and pray it hits

[next thistle]

calculate it yourself first lol

[white zodiac]

shouldve went to a higher stake

[white zodiac]

given no interest, try to make a habit of saving 20 bucks for hermit cap if spending down isn't required

[wintry ice]

me when my steak is on the second floor

[lunar zealot]

ante 7 wall makes me so sad yet so grateful at the same time since if i lose to wall i also lose to vv

[wintry ice]

(it's a high steak)

[lunar zealot]

Idk man ante 7 wall is kind of a nothing boss blind

Sure it's higher than the finisher but like

[novel siren]

whats the best deck to get to black stake with

[lunar zealot]

it's not crimson heart

[white zodiac]

prob killed me in some black deck run

[lunar zealot]

whatever you want

[acoustic kettle]

Ante 7 wall ante 8 vv

[wintry ice]

blue and yellow are the most consistent

[novel siren]

I hit a wall using blue deck at green stake

[acoustic kettle]

Plasma

[lunar zealot]

Keep going

blue is fine

Great even

[novel siren]

plasma is the reward for beating black stake

[white zodiac]

amazing some might say

[acoustic kettle]

No blue stake

I think

[white zodiac]

blue*

[unreal island]

Thanks golden ticket

[wintry ice]

yellow stake

[novel siren]

oh wait yeah its blue which is right after black

[unreal island]

Piss stake

[lunar zealot]

Get ready

[white zodiac]

who peed on my meat

[lunar zealot]

blue stake fucking sucks

Single biggest reason pairs are as good as they are

pairs would still be played without it but like

[acoustic kettle]

Pairs don't work as well in plasma i feel like

[lunar zealot]

You get my point

[acoustic kettle]

Maybe i don't force it enough

[wintry ice]

3oak would likely be better if blue stake was something else

another 2x to scoring would be the way clearly

[acoustic kettle]

4.8 mil vv

[white zodiac]

they can, alternatives have more room to shine like 2 pair or straights

[white zodiac]

2.4*

[lunar zealot]

But yeah blue stake rework definitely catapults xoak and straights into viability

[acoustic kettle]

I just feel like i don't get enough chips from pairs on plasma

[lunar zealot]

Why are you chipsmaxxing

[acoustic kettle]

Because

Mult is boring

Smh

[white zodiac]

pairs aren't known for their raw planet power

[lunar zealot]

your mom is boring

[acoustic kettle]

Got bones gold stake before any scaling +mult

Fight me

[lunar zealot]

I got photograph gold stake before any scaling +mult

yes photograph

And only photograph

no chad

[wintry ice]

and yet you still did her

[acoustic kettle]

Banner gold stake without wasteful

Well stuntman carried that run but

[white zodiac]

first black deck gs was just 6 boring overpowered jokers

[lunar zealot]

Is vanilla a bad flavor of ice cream

[wintry ice]

no

[twin lantern]

so is jokerless just pray you get a bunch of planets?

[left juniper]

Its a bit of that but mainly deckfixing

Gotta try to get help from lucky cards and gold seals for money

[white zodiac]

jokerless is taking advantage of shop consistency while hoarding blue seals, gold cards for leverage. ending with steel/glass as x mult source in combination with flat mult via planets

[coral summit]

Both of these seem like iffy options to me. What do you suggest?

[serene forge]

Obelisk is for STUPID BABIES that want to play something other that flushes and actually build around the jokers they are given. Disgusting. Alright sorry i gotta go, my 9th seeded naneinf run is waiting

[vocal rose]

trousers

[orchid comet]

put on some pants 💔

[white zodiac]

jeans

[viral raft]

Pants is by far the best mult scaling joker

take it

[willow frost]

shorts

[vocal rose]

not by far

red card is at the minimum equal to trousers

he just got handed a free win basically

[viral raft]

true, but is the most consistent in scaling

[quartz ember]

if 2 of the best +mult jokers seem iffy there is something you need to reevaluate

[viral raft]

Something that i love about pants is that scales so well that you can just get obelisk and you basically won

Also the fact that with pants you can just play two pair, buy obelisk, and STILL scaling and pivot with full house is crazy

[white zodiac]

it requires a slightly less trivial poker hand to activate early which can whiff on something like black to the point where I would consider one of the common mult hand scalers

barely

[serene forge]

wtf do you mean iffy

both of these are fucking amazing

[dense wraith]

Clearly I have let down runner far too much even though I already thought he was really good

[white zodiac]

he has decision paralysis
deciding between peak and cinema

[white zodiac]

I won't forget what you did

[serene forge]

plant doesn't counter photochad (-326)

[viral raft]

is two pairs, obviusly being a "higher" poker hand makes it harder but you obtain +2 mult, other scaling jokers by hands (Green, Nova, bus) you only get +1, so basically is the double amount of scaling, if you manage to minmax atleat 2 two pairs, is the same amount of mult as 4 hand played with any common scaling +mult by hand.

[white zodiac]

if then statement

[wintry ice]

foil red card sounds great

[white zodiac]

o

we all said pants

he has no wrong answer

[viral raft]

great with early antes but imo Pants is better in long term

both are great ngl

[white zodiac]

technically red card is better long term via foil

[viral raft]

Pants is more consistent imo

[white zodiac]

foil red card is flint proof

[viral raft]

i like to always use the cards that appears in the booster packs (except standards)

[quartz ember]

they just have different tradeoffs, whats better depends on the future of the run

[white zodiac]

yuh

[dense wraith]

I'm actually up against the flint so even the game won't forgive that and kill me from no chips

[void topaz]

nothing is ever flint proof

only flint resistant

[white zodiac]

on joker scoring:

[void topaz]

nahhh

never heard of it

[vocal rose]

alright

[void topaz]

planets on top 🆙

[quartz ember]

isnt it ironic that flint and steel exists when steel is bad on flint

[void topaz]

🔥

[dense wraith]

I think it was on the same ante as runner so really, he was all I needed

gotta make an apology letter to runner now

[jagged valve]

My first attempt at blue deck red stake kinda goated actually

[white zodiac]

bite the hand that feeds

[jagged valve]

Spade deck fixing btw

Wildcard serving

[random ice]

Glass two factory

[dense wraith]

is this safe enough with bull?

mm yeah I think it's fine

[vocal rose]

I dont think thats worth

tbh

[random ice]

Absolutely ridiculous run

Wee on 632, Gloker on 7X

I'd have killed for an Obelisk

Would have popped so hard

Was hoping sixth sense would have popped out something crazy but this worked nonetheless

[barren wigeon]

almost won my first gold stake game

and then

i got hit by a wall

or a vessel i guess

[random ice]

This is why I keep a Justice in my consumable slots usually in Ante 7

[barren wigeon]

justice didnt help

[random ice]

Like a single Justice with Hanging Chad goes nuts

[barren wigeon]

made like 600k

[random ice]

Did you have planet levels?

What was joker layout

[barren wigeon]

twasnt enough

[barren wigeon]

yes

[barren wigeon]

I do not remember

it was yesterday

[random ice]

That's probably the critical info for getting future gold stake success

Joker Choice is the biggest thing that makes or breaks victory

[pulsar oar]

Oh my days

[white zodiac]

preferably not, chip source is solved on arrowhead so unless spade debuff is near or golden is about to die then you could take it and heavily lean on interest cap for the next couple antes

[orchid comet]

ante 1 is crazy

oh but your money...

[random ice]

I'd hold onto the Midas

It's Black Deck

You need scoring

Don't greed into the Blueprint

[pulsar oar]

Can't even buy the blueprint if I sold the midas

[random ice]

Oop

[orchid comet]

sad

[pulsar oar]

Probably wouldn't anyways

[random ice]

I misread 6 as 8

[barren wigeon]

wow, a zany joker!

[random ice]

Scoring is scoring

Also, with Midas Mask, Econ is basically solved

[barren wigeon]

that's obviously the most important part of this image

[random ice]

Midas is to me the second best Econ Joker

Behind Rebate

[barren wigeon]

the cool zany joker

[random ice]

Imo it's Rebate then Midas then Rocket

Parking is very very good

Hmm

I'm torn between Rocket and Parking

[barren wigeon]

i gotta put trading card over midas, just for the deckfixing aspect

[orchid comet]

parking before to the moon?

[barren wigeon]

if we're going purely econ based, definitely midas

[random ice]

TTM is great but it's useless antes 1 and 2

I had a double interest voucher with TTM

And just had

Silly money

[wintry ice]

rebate > midas > rocket = cloud 9

[barren wigeon]

to the moon isnt useful if you dont have interest money

rocket and parking are

[random ice]

Rocket is also a bit delayed

Good though

[barren wigeon]

After an ante you have a gold joker

[orchid comet]

it gives a lot and either way u usually keep 25+

[random ice]

I mean, it solves lategame Econ singlehandedly

Rebate is just free money now

[orchid comet]

I usually overlook rocket since I don't get it early enough

[random ice]

Also, people sleep on Faceless Joker

Faceless is VERY solid Econ

[barren wigeon]

faceless is nice but only if you can make something out of it which you cannot always do

especially due to having only 2 discards on blue stake+

[random ice]

You should always be opening your Tarots and Standard packs

Use the money from faceless to open Tarots to get more money from faceless

[pale wolf]

i think necessarily anything that scales over time is gonna be worse than something with immediate big value when it comes to econ

[barren wigeon]

I personally would rather have a business card than a faceless joker

[pale wolf]

in a general evaluation

[random ice]

True ,hence why Rebate is king

[random ice]

Naaaah, business is weak without Chad

It's solid econ

[barren wigeon]

nah just gotta have insane luck like me

[pale wolf]

how often do you expect to trigger faceless per round

somewhere between 1 and 2 right

[random ice]

Yeah so it's about $8 of value

I'd wager

With it only increasing as the game goes on

[wintry ice]

wow you died to vessel with insane luck

[random ice]

Thing is, if you have free joker slots, and the Econ isn't Eternal or Rental, you take it

[pale wolf]

you'd be lucky to die to vessel the way they do

[random ice]

Almost all Econ pays for itself

With the exception of Satellite

Lmao

[pale wolf]

satellite does net positive

[random ice]

EVENTUALLY

[pale wolf]

its just you need to survive long enough for it

[pulsar oar]

Oh hey chaos with flash card that's a great synergy

[wicked vault]

satellite is a shitty rocket

[barren wigeon]

okay i have insane luck MOST OF THE TIME

I was getting crazy lucky card hits that entire run

they had to bring me back to earth

[random ice]

Also, Econ Jokers which give output IMMEDIATELY are easier to justify as rentals or Perishables

[wicked vault]

if it would scale only on if you have a planet level or not then it would be nice

[random ice]

Rental Perishable Rebate is still draftable

[pale wolf]

lotsa value esp when you have gold card income

[random ice]

That's how good it is

[wicked vault]

because then black hole and space joker would activate it

[wicked vault]

lmao true

[random ice]

If Satellite proc'd on Black Hole that would be silly

I like the dream though

[coral summit]

Gold stake is beating my ass

[wicked vault]

how often does that happend though?

[pale wolf]

it prob should be just hands with levels above 1 though

[wicked vault]

like you need to find black hole which is really rare then find satelitte

[barren wigeon]

if satellite proc'd on black hole maybe itd be useful

[random ice]

Hmm, true. I mean not every Econ Joker needs to be good

[wicked vault]

that is also tru

[random ice]

Like, we accept Rough Gem for what it is

[pale wolf]

black hole and satellite are both underpowered enough that giving that synergy wouldnt cause any rank changes

[wicked vault]

just throwing things at the wall here

[pale wolf]

rough gem is aight tho

[barren wigeon]

rough gem isnt bad

just gotta have diamonds

[wicked vault]

rough gem should cost less

[random ice]

Relative to the others it's not AS good

[wicked vault]

but its fine yeah

[pale wolf]

rough gem means you need just a tiny bit more motivation to play flushes

[barren wigeon]

delayed grat just isnt good though

[random ice]

Delayed Grat is fine

[white zodiac]

or 2 pairs

[random ice]

Just play Pairs

[wicked vault]

delayed grat on red deck kinda hits tho

[barren wigeon]

and get 4 bucks in return?

[random ice]

Pairs are meta anyway

If you see playing Pairs as a disadvantage

Well

[barren wigeon]

it definitely isnt

[white zodiac]

oh boy

[pale wolf]

if you have absolutely nothing to dig for delayed can at least not be a straight up detriment

[barren wigeon]

sometimes you still have to discard for pairs though

[wicked vault]

i had a run recently where i got an early supernova and delayed grat.
Delayed grat carried my econ early

[pale wolf]

but 1 gold card makes it worth discarding for

[barren wigeon]

and if youre at the point where you dont need to discard for pairs you can probably find better money than 4 bucks a round most of the time

[wicked vault]

just throw in burglar and you will have all the hand size you need to not need the discards and make delayed grat usefull /s :p

[random ice]

All Econ Jokers are draftable basically. Because money is always good (excluding stickers)

[pale wolf]

hands not hand size

[random ice]

Like, I can think of several Jokers I don't draft

[wicked vault]

damn

[random ice]

But none of them are the Econ Jokers

[wicked vault]

what is this draft?

[random ice]

Except maybe Satellite

But even then I've used it

[barren wigeon]

id take a satellite over a delayed grat

[white zodiac]

keeping del grat prevents you from digging later or make use of value in your deck more consistently

[white zodiac]

same

[random ice]

Delayed Grat gets you up to interest cap ante 1

[pale wolf]

yeah there's plenty of reason not to take satellite, or rough gem, or even faceless or rocket
its very contextual

[white zodiac]

not in same intervals

[random ice]

Like, if you are able to play Pairs ante 1 and 2

[viral raft]

Delayed is decent in early antes

[random ice]

Delayed Grat is actually pretty good

[wintry ice]

delayed grats can be early early on and is worse than discarding for value lategame

[brave goblet]

Photochad at home 💔

[barren wigeon]

in what scenario are you able to play pairs consistently in antes 1 and 2

[viral raft]

But satellite is better in long term

[wicked vault]

delayed grat on ghost deck in ante 1 + hex and you can get a nice econ boost early on if you're lucky with the draws

[pale wolf]

any flat mult

[white zodiac]

not likely to happen when you need to score with five card hands

[random ice]

Almost every gold stake I run, I grab Flat Mult early

[brave goblet]

Mercury on shop 1 on magic deck

[cosmic sun]

finding and stickering DNA gon be a real pain

[wicked vault]

i mean you're dead if you dont

[random ice]

Like, that's the first thing I look for in the Buffoon pack in ante 1

[white zodiac]

then delgrat getting to interest cap is a lie

[random ice]

Is there flat mult in it

[white zodiac]

in a1

[random ice]

No?

I grab Buffoon pack first shop, Del grat the next

[wicked vault]

why?

[viral raft]

With the blue stake rework Delayed will gave +6$ istead of 4$, that's a big diff imo

[random ice]

It's not... Hard to run

[barren wigeon]

well let's do the math

[wicked vault]

my last rare joker for c++ was hit the road jack

[pale wolf]

if it actually gets reworked at all tbh

[cosmic sun]

it's my last sticker

[random ice]

I get a Raised Fist, I get Del Grat

[barren wigeon]

4 bucks a round is 12 bucks per ante

[viral raft]

2026, trust

[pale wolf]

my last rare was uuuh campfire I think

[white zodiac]

you're just gonna hope to find a 5 card hand without using discards?

[cosmic sun]

aight riff raff...

[random ice]

Dude I'm playing Pairs with Raised Fist or something in that scenario

What are you not getting

You don't need 5 card hands if you get Flat Mult in the first Buffoon pack

[pale wolf]

theyre assuming a flat mult in addition to delayed

[wicked vault]

ok but eternal riff raff ante 1, are we taking it?

[brave goblet]

Absolutely

[pale wolf]

yes

[barren wigeon]

yes

[pale wolf]

except on painted

no eternal riff on paint

[random ice]

especially on black

[white zodiac]

this is a very specific scenario that's not worth thinking about on ante 1

[wicked vault]

yeah on black its a must

but i always pass to make the run more fun

[random ice]

Getting Flat Mult ante 1 is not a very specific scenario

[pale wolf]

wut

[random ice]

Flat Mult ante 1 is the meta

Right?

[barren wigeon]

just got a fucking PERISHABLE BRAINSTORM

whatever man

[wicked vault]

"meta" lol

[pale wolf]

5 rounds of value

[random ice]

I mean with Econ that's still solid

[barren wigeon]

no econ

[random ice]

F

[wicked vault]

maybe keep and see if you find econ?

[barren wigeon]

but a DNA....

[wicked vault]

there you go

copy gold cards and you have econ lol

or whatever win con u got

[barren wigeon]

but no good dna cards

[random ice]

Like, a lot of the things I grab ante 1 are RTB, Groker, raised fist, Abstract, nova

[barren wigeon]

its ante 1

[random ice]

All of these are common

All enable pair

[barren wigeon]

might copy queens

[white zodiac]

you get one joker into round 2, getting both to fully work via hand scaling mult in boss blind will not be enough for a 600 finish on flat mult as opposed to the 450 with 4 pairs on big blind without

[pale wolf]

rtb and delayed is scary

[white zodiac]

yeah

[tranquil cedar]

that's just sad

[random ice]

Yeah then you have to sac the delayed money but it does still pay for itself

[wicked vault]

yall wanna post a random seed here and we see how gets the best run?

[tranquil cedar]

this mf boss blind 😔

[random ice]

I've always hit the 600 with the flat Mult joker you're talking shit lmao

[barren wigeon]

opened a standard pack

[pale wolf]

ok i amend my earlier statement, id take an eternal negative riff raff on painted

[barren wigeon]

no enhanced card

[wicked vault]

nobody? ok 🙁

[pale wolf]

except I wouldn't be able to pay for it

[fervent wolf]

This run was so good

[random ice]

Sometimes I have to play 5 card hands

[pale wolf]

so I would take a rental eternal and negative riff

[tranquil cedar]

tempy value

[random ice]

But a lot of the time I gun for a flat Mult or scaling mult joker

If "flat Mult ante 1 bad" is what you are saying then idk what to say

[tranquil cedar]

I love languages that use the latin alphabet and use like 0.2 english vowels per word

[barren wigeon]

lost due to no mult

probably shouldn't have taken dna

anyways, next run, first pack astronomer!!!!

[pale wolf]

im gonna play a run

[random ice]

DNA early is not the play

[barren wigeon]

i like astronomer

[violet sparrow]

up for green deck so any tips

[random ice]

astronomer is a fun Econ Joker

[fervent wolf]

These were the Jokers, I skipped first small blind for an arcana pack and pulled Canio

[pale wolf]

i forgot i was already on that shit

[lyric shore]

jeez

[random ice]

That's a rough ante 4

[pale wolf]

im fiiine

[random ice]

Grab the photo pray for chad

[wicked vault]

tfw you miss an investment tag ante 1

[tranquil cedar]

no shadows looks like ripoff balatro

[barren wigeon]

hmm....

[random ice]

I'm undecided what's the most tragic joker here

[barren wigeon]

ankh the astronomer....

[random ice]

No lmao

[barren wigeon]

eternal droll easily

[dense wraith]

final decision for the run, do I have to reroll? My flush level is 16.

[random ice]

Eternal Droll is a fine ante 1 pick, I get how it happens

Or even early ante 2

If you are desperate

For anything

[barren wigeon]

I mean, you'd probably be fine rerolling

[pale wolf]

i think this runs dead lol
watch this next shop tho 💯

[barren wigeon]

I cant think of any other bosses that'd beat you

[random ice]

Oh my god I was joking about photo

[pale wolf]

oh my God banana died

[random ice]

And so will you

[barren wigeon]

ggs

[calm sapphire]

Ain't no way bros game is polish

[pale wolf]

no it was unironically the best option

because I have wrathful

[random ice]

Ohhhh

Yeah ofc

[barren wigeon]

eternal hologram...

decisions decisions

[fervent wolf]

I "Polished" off this run with Rtb and Canio

[barren wigeon]

yeah ill take it

[random ice]

Hologram wins runs

Like Holo is amongst my most used

[barren wigeon]

got matador out of a judgement

the boss is the hook

[pale wolf]

bananas back in a new skinsuit

[barren wigeon]

so that's not very useful

[fervent wolf]

Hologram is so good, especially on ghost deck

[random ice]

Look upon my choices and despair

[dense wraith]

wtf

[random ice]

I mean it's Ante 8 do you need the money?

Unless you're planning endless

[dense wraith]

how did it not hit a spade??

[barren wigeon]

new pc ignore pablo

[random ice]

Oh you're running flushes

[heavy aspen]

Yo is there any way whatsoever to transfer my pc progress to mobile?

[random ice]

Nope

Sorry to say

[pale wolf]

if I get this money proc then I think I'm back in the game

[heavy aspen]

😔

[plain mirage]

2nd legendary quite a rare occurrence

blessed seed

[heavy aspen]

When they add a save transfer system to mobile you will never see me again

[random ice]

Bye bye golden

[pale wolf]

are you on android

[heavy aspen]

iOS sadly

[pale wolf]

welp

[heavy aspen]

Yea

[dense wraith]

ok gg

[calm sapphire]

shitt ahh operating system

[plain mirage]

(it spawned perkeo)

[heavy aspen]

I heard there was a technical way to do it on android

[heavy aspen]

I’m getting android soon lmao

[pale wolf]

new run

[random ice]

Buying a new phone so you can transfer your Balatro save? Based.

[pale wolf]

actually chad could be on the reroll

[prime valve]

Close one.

[heavy aspen]

Lmao def only reason

[pale wolf]

he wasnt

new run

[barren wigeon]

i just lost an early game because I spend all my hands and got NO FUCKING SPADES

[wicked vault]

are you chilling with the burglar here or getting out
Deck is pretty much vanilla

[barren wigeon]

NOT A SINGLE SPADE

[pale wolf]

Not even really technical, you can just retrieve your Google Play games data from Google takeout

they just send you an email with the download link

[dense wraith]

didn't make the best plays tho so if the run wasn't as nice I wouldn't have won probably with that build

[pale wolf]

You can't legitimately put it back onto the mobile game though

[heavy aspen]

What is google takeout 😭 didn’t know Google did food

[barren wigeon]

eternal bull...

good chips

[white zodiac]

4 pairs with a common hand scaler gets you to 450 on big blind. for boss blind in order to theoretically utilize delgrat to max interest, you would have to spend 4-6 bucks on those given hand scaling mults from the second shop which sets you down to 2-4 bucks (assuming 7-10 bucks into second shop). not only do you have to run into a boss that lets you freely scale and win within 4 hands, you'll have to do that without discarding and not hinder the mult scalers conditions to keep del grat from working (bus, grimbo, nova) which is on average unrealistic. also post round finish you still wouldn't be at interest cap given the narrow chance for best case scenarios ($4 bucks into boss, +$3 ohko boss blind,+$5 boss blind reward = $13)

[pale wolf]

its what they call the thing that lets you request your data

[barren wigeon]

probably not useful for yellow deck

[fervent wolf]

Who wants the triple stuntman?

[heavy aspen]

My biggest hope for balatro updates is to offer a system like vampire survivors or btd6 for cross saving

[barren wigeon]

OOH OKAY

rental gold card or sixth sense

[lunar zealot]

Btd6 mentioned

[heavy aspen]

Yes peakkkk

[lunar zealot]

please unmention btd6 i hate that game

[barren wigeon]

1 dollar or sixth sense

[barren wigeon]

FUCK YOU

BTD6 IS FIRE

[heavy aspen]

I forgot to do the btd6 mission on discord

[plain mirage]

used to really badly want that feature but it didn't exist for so long that i bought a laptop to play steam save anywhere now

[lunar zealot]

I still play it lol

[heavy aspen]

Agreed

[lunar zealot]

i just dont like it

[random ice]

Delayed Grat buys for $4 and sells for $2, you need one successful use of it to make a profit. That's how I evaluate econ jokers and why I consider them almost always takeable

[plain mirage]

how can u not like a fullscreen of monkey projectiles

[heavy aspen]

Why do you still play it if you don’t like it

[white zodiac]

not saying it's bad, it's just an inconsistent scenario to consider justifying econ value for purchase

[lunar zealot]

cuz it's fun

[heavy aspen]

So you hate it but find it fun??

[lunar zealot]

yes??

[random ice]

Granted there are times you'll have to discard to push through ante 1, but even a single proc ante 2 makes it pay for itself

[heavy aspen]

Then why don’t you like it then

[lunar zealot]

Oh i got groomed in the btd6 discord

[heavy aspen]

Oh

[white zodiac]

will you take it under any stickers it comes with

[heavy aspen]

I’m sorry that happened

So you hate the community not the game

[random ice]

I've previously stated assuming sticker free

[lunar zealot]

Yuh

[heavy aspen]

Understandable

[random ice]

I wouldn't take it eternal or rental