🕹・game-discussion

[sly bolt]

:<

[valid abyss]

and you'll unlock one quarter of it

[winter pike]

so many liars

[valid abyss]

you gotta do it 3 more times

[lament crater]

y'all dont have the scribbled joker naturally? i dont need to unlock it

[acoustic kettle]

Kill chicot to madness / dagger 50 times

[tardy spade]

the true answer is by discarding a royal flush

[lament crater]

you need to score something higher than naneinf

[sly bolt]

that sounds hard :<

[orchid comet]

isn't that brainstorm

[lament crater]

is the true answer

[tardy spade]

isn't that what they meant by scribbled joker?

[orchid comet]

no...

idk if you're joking I'm confused

[lament crater]

stuntgoat!

[hardy fable]

how to unlock scribly joker

[valid abyss]

they mean brainstorm

yeah they're joking

[tardy spade]

I'm not...

[valid abyss]

and so are we

[lament crater]

stuntgoat synergy with chicot

[orchid comet]

thanks for clarifying

[acoustic kettle]

Stuntgoat with chibutt

[hushed thunder]

Should i buy it?

[hardy fable]

I synergize with me, I and myself

[lament crater]

C++ asking how to unlock a joker, i dont see how you could not get that joke...

[winter pike]

is this your joker?

[lament crater]

do you like bull?

[sly bolt]

THAT ONE

[orchid comet]

I overlooked it

[hardy fable]

prob my go to chip joker

if I didn't get me

[winter pike]

discard a royal flush

[hardy fable]

are you sure? ik getting scribly joker was score 100m in one hand

[acoustic kettle]

15k score on its own

[tardy spade]

I just skipped a black hole because only 1 hand counts and I have constellation and the planet card I needed was in the pack

[valid abyss]

the fuck is this seed chat

[hardy fable]

the scribly joker

[valid abyss]

the vagabond came from a JUDGEMENT

[winter pike]

theres no sound

unless something is wrong with me

[lament crater]

terrible seed, will not want to reproduce

[hushed thunder]

@valid abyss Should i buy something?

[lament crater]

burnt joker banner synergy

[hardy fable]

there's only 3 states of this channel

a fever dream
arguments
people asking for advice

[hardy fable]

business card with vagabond

[valid abyss]

uhhhhh

[sly bolt]

I GOT IT

yayyy :D

[hardy fable]

les gooo

[valid abyss]

probably sell the funny mystic summit

because abstract is giving that exact mult every time

and take the rebate

[willow frost]

holy crap its been a while

[winter pike]

peak texture pack

[manic talon]

now delete balatro

[tardy spade]

I just got a 4oak into the psychic ante 1 and lost because I forgot to play a 5th card

....

[sly bolt]

why

[orchid comet]

this seed is insane (what do I get?)

[sly bolt]

boo!

[manic talon]

sometimes its all 3 at the same time

[manic talon]

get hologram

[lunar zealot]

HOLY JUDGEMENT

[orchid comet]

u forgot pokemon discussion

[manic talon]

1 in 500 be upon ye

[orchid comet]

that's crazy

[orchid comet]

okay

[lament crater]

you'll lose it

[lunar zealot]

FUCK

ON THE ONE RUN I LOSE TO VV

[sly bolt]

sup kami

do you remember me

[lunar zealot]

yeah you're the gay one

[sly bolt]

WHAT

[manic talon]

fym you lose to VV on bboard cav poly pants run

[tardy spade]

grimbo or supernova?

[sly bolt]

😭

[willow frost]

garlic bread is nice but idk man

[lunar zealot]

hiero 🥲

[manic talon]

theres a lot of those here

[lunar zealot]

oh what the fuck LMAO

HAHAHAHAHAAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHHAA

ok i beat vv now

[tardy spade]

is this xor as opposed to standard or?

[winter pike]

i assume a standard or gate

[lunar zealot]

yayyyyy

[orchid comet]

W seed

[valid abyss]

this seed i have is fucking insane

[subtle loom]

once you played balatro youll never stop wanting to punch blue stake to death

[valid abyss]

ANTE 5

[orchid comet]

what's the point of idol

I have it in shop idk if I should buy it

[sly bolt]

idol is lame

[valid abyss]

idol is not lame

[manic talon]

Idol is ass, but not that lame

[orchid comet]

so I don't buy it?

[valid abyss]

buy it if deck is fixed

[manic talon]

No why would you buy idol, buy the standard pack

[orchid comet]

oh I just realized something

[orchid comet]

no but it's checkered

[subtle loom]

rtx balatro

[manic talon]

Best case of idol in checkered is like, X2 on a single hand, so basically photograph but miserably worse

[orchid comet]

ok but ancient?

ancient must be good right

there's only two suits

[tardy spade]

ancient doesn't care about your deck

[manic talon]

Ancient picks any 4 suit

[orchid comet]

oh that sucks

but do I buy it anyway

[orchid comet]

same joker set but I sold agate

[subtle loom]

i hate blue stake

im on purple black rn

[manic talon]

Its white stake do whatever you want tbh

[subtle loom]

wait no orange black deck

[orchid comet]

well true

[subtle loom]

i hate blue stake

[acoustic kettle]

Purple deck

I'm on purple deck plasma stake

[valid abyss]

i'm on king of spades deck with smeared joker stake

[orchid comet]

I got the thingys

the joker for beating with 12 rounds or less

such a lucky run

[acoustic kettle]

I'm on chicot stake perkeo deck

[hushed thunder]

Is theres something i can do?

Or its end

[gusty maple]

Why does all my endless mode become baron mime blueblueblueblueprint run

[shell dagger]

It is one of the 2 main strategies

So that makes sense

[pale wolf]

what is AJ on

[hushed thunder]

Help please

[hushed thunder]

Whats that

[shell dagger]

ancient joker

[hushed thunder]

Diamond

[shell dagger]

ah

[quartz hinge]

Same. I prefer my stake medium rare

[next aspen]

Making an unseeded naninf attempt. Do I drop a Baron here for invisible?

[quartz ember]

sure

wait

why would you drop anything

[alpine talon]

Technically jokerless lol

[subtle loom]

me when im in a good joker competition and my oppinent is hologram

[next aspen]

I’m trying to dig for blueprint right now but if I could get it to copy brainstorm that’d work as well

[quartz ember]

I would drop a baron for more econ tho

[alpine talon]

5th gold stake! Technically jokerless

[subtle loom]

but blackboard carried hard here

[quartz ember]

yea just buy it

[valid abyss]

just why black deck orange stake

[quartz ember]

you lose nothing

[valid abyss]

why would you ever do this to yourself

[pale wolf]

You have six slots

lol

[next aspen]

Yeah my Econ sucks

[subtle loom]

because i wanna c+

[next aspen]

Jesus Christ

I’m an idiot

[alpine talon]

You really are

[pale wolf]

It's a very wide invisible to be fair

[alpine talon]

Helko

I remember you

[pale wolf]

hi

[alpine talon]

Look I've come so far

Still can't beat plasma tho

[pale wolf]

nice

[subtle loom]

i did beat plasma

haha

[alpine talon]

On gold stake?

[subtle loom]

yep

only with bull and econ

imma play painted deck

hope for rng

[valid abyss]

i heavily dislike blue stake

[tardy spade]

I am so happy I took speculative director's cut

[lunar zealot]

wtf is speculative dcut

it's just dcut

[tardy spade]

I took it without having a direct need in case I needed it in the future

[lunar zealot]

yeah that's just dcut

speculative is a pejorative term we only use for oops

[tardy spade]

and magic trick

I one-shot bell, so I was probably fine for vv anyway

but I still won

[shell dagger]

mime kinda

[subtle loom]

truth

[wispy hound]

just rare skipped into a negative blueprint, does this have naneinf potential 🥹

[tardy spade]

yes.... but so do a lot of runs around this ante

[slender creek]

i got negative blueprint in first shop one time

[tardy spade]

unfortunate

[slender creek]

wdym

[tardy spade]

negative blueprint is $15, not affordable in frist shop unless you're on yellow deck

[slender creek]

it was in a buffoon pack actually

[tardy spade]

ohhh

slightly better

but still you have nothing to copy with it

[slender creek]

i got baron and mime like 2 antes later

[quartz ember]

unfortunate

(you dont draw any kings and die)

[tardy spade]

does the game actually tell you anywhere that rentals always buy and sell for $1?

[orchid comet]

do i buy brainstorm and sell green (+10 rn)?

dont mind the rounds I was unlocking jokers

my current play is using 3 hands or smtg just to rack up rtb and green joker

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[fading cobalt]

Bloodstone hate is deserved

This son of a bitch never pulls its weight when it needs to

[lunar zealot]

girl

i had a bloodstone run

and then an aj run

just today

the aj run went like 10x smoother the entire way through

jesus fucking christ

[fading cobalt]

Lmao I just lost a bloodstone run aswell

I didn't even see this message before saying bloodstone deserves hate

[tardy spade]

good run

[serene forge]

hmmmm i wonder why

[white zodiac]

can't say I had the same run

[fading cobalt]

Ancient joker and bloodstone when it comes to working whenever they feel like it

[serene forge]

last i checked ancient joker isn't rng based like bloodstone is

[tardy spade]

it chooses a suit randomly

[fading cobalt]

And the moment it picks a suit that you can't play flush with you die

[serene forge]

so what

[fading cobalt]

Its inconsistent and you cant deckfix around it

[serene forge]

cut your cards

[tardy spade]

which is why if you're playing ancient joker you make sure you keep your deck balanced

[serene forge]

cut your suits evenly

[fading cobalt]

I guess that would work

I still think aj has inconsistencies and rng is relevant to it

If you can't deckfix well enough it can still fuck you over

[serene forge]

it is a flush joker tbf

[fading cobalt]

If it worked like idol it would be really good

Like if you had a deck of hearts then it can only select hearts

[tardy spade]

that would be too good

[fading cobalt]

I suppose

[winter pike]

numero 845

[serene forge]

i think that'd be too good most of the time

and that still runs the risk of missing like idol which is really bad because its a scoring joker

[fading cobalt]

Well it would essentially work the exact same as idol

[fading cobalt]

Yeah?

[serene forge]

nobody cares if your rebate or castle misses for a round or two

[winter pike]

it's still good

wild cards only use

[tardy spade]

wild cards with flower pot

[lunar zealot]

bloodstone has insanely high variance

[winter pike]

name one person that uses flower pot

[lunar zealot]

castle can miss but that's only ever going to be a modicum of +chips

[tardy spade]

me

[lunar zealot]

negligible in the long run unless you're dumb and actually never even try to optimize

[winter pike]

you should stop that

[lunar zealot]

uncommon the order

straights can proc fpot pretty easily

[serene forge]

me occasionally

[tardy spade]

flower pot is useful in situations where it's useful

[winter pike]

holy shit

[lunar zealot]

yeah like for straights

[winter pike]

never thought of that

[nova mortar]

me

[fading cobalt]

Just like every other joker

[lunar zealot]

if anything flower pot is better than the order

[tardy spade]

and I only use it in situations where its useful

[winter pike]

i suppose, still pretty useless most of the time

[lunar zealot]

because GUESS WHAT

FLOWER POT

[serene forge]

a nat negative flower pot inspired me to learn it

[lunar zealot]

IS A FUCKING UNCOMMON

[lunar zealot]

MY GOAT

[orchid comet]

lucky run
idk if I get that joker

is it useful

[winter pike]

fair enough then

[tardy spade]

what hand type are you playing, if any?

[orchid comet]

not focused on any

[lunar zealot]

they should make more uncommon jokers next patch

for no reason

no reason at all

[orchid comet]

I haven't bought any planets either

[tardy spade]

I'd say don't buy it then

this server should have a specific channel for requesting help on your balatro runs

[lunar zealot]

behold the first time anyone has ever said bbc to refer specifically to baseball card

[orchid comet]

okay thank you

[tardy spade]

anything to do with the fact that baseball card works with uncommons?

[lunar zealot]

wait jesus fucking christ am i the one who started to make it popular ???

[valid berry]

is there any feasible way to score e chips (before mult and plasma)

[lunar zealot]

e chips?

the blue one?

[valid berry]

yes

[lunar zealot]

or do you mean points

[tardy spade]

no.... why do you need e chips?

[winter pike]

you score e1 minimum

[lunar zealot]

being that chips can only ever be additive

the best way to do that is like

when does e notation first appear

e11?

[winter pike]

yeah

[valid berry]

would you need to go absolutely insane with castle ankhs or something

[tardy spade]

e6 for the chips and mult Ithink, and e11 for total score

[valid berry]

or wee

so 1million chips

[lunar zealot]

so like

[tardy spade]

you'd need 10,000 wees on 100 chips each to get that

[lunar zealot]

you'd need bull and have 50 billion dollars

[tardy spade]

chips are additive

[lunar zealot]

to get e11 chips

i believe

[valid berry]

or 1000 chips on the wee and 1000 wees then

multless highscore when

[lunar zealot]

lemme open debug

[orchid comet]

oh I forgot to mention since it's green deck I would get +2$ too

[tardy spade]

the most money anyone's ever gotten in a run is somewhere in the $10,000 - $100,000 range

[orchid comet]

no there's been a millionaire

I recently watched a wr video on balatro

[tardy spade]

+$3 that's a good point, maybe it was worth

[tardy spade]

woah... vid?

[orchid comet]

I haven't bought it yet

I'll play in an hour or two

[tardy spade]

yeah buy it

when you get back on

[orchid comet]

19 insane world records in balatro by balatroze

[lunar zealot]

ah.

i see the problem with debug mode.

[tardy spade]

?

[lunar zealot]

i can only gain money in increments of 10 dollars.

and i need 50 billion dollars with bull

[valid berry]

can you give urself tags?

[tardy spade]

autoclicker

[lunar zealot]

oh shit right economy tag

[fading cobalt]

Fibochad my goat

[tardy spade]

you can spawn them in from the collection

[valid berry]

if you did the one that gets more money the more skips youve done idk if that would count but it might

[tardy spade]

wouldn't count, it counts skips, not tags

[valid berry]

can you like edit joker values or something to get a crazy econ joker

[lunar zealot]

how the fuck do i get 50 billion dollars

[lunar zealot]

i can open console

is there some kind of lua line i can input that gives me 50 billion dollars

[soft trout]

the BALATRO seed is so fucking stupid

[tardy spade]

or make a copy of the balatro exe and modify the code to give you $50b

[lunar zealot]

is this arbitrary code execution i dont even know

idk what console does

[valid berry]

parodelia soon

[lunar zealot]

oh

oops LMAO

[tardy spade]

how do you open console in debug mode

[lunar zealot]

ok chat i now have 50 billion dolalrs

[soft trout]

i played the seed before, it doesnt appear

HOWEVER

we get a dna

[lunar zealot]

lmfao

[white zodiac]

can we get much higher

[valid berry]

i do wonder if it is possible to get 1mil chips feasibly though

prolly is with enough retriggers, ankhs and wees

[lunar zealot]

uh oh

[white zodiac]

crashes

[lunar zealot]

i wonder how this is gonna go

IT DOESN'T EVEN BEAT THE BLIND LMAO

[white zodiac]

life is suffering

[valid berry]

i keep forgetting i gold staked finally yesterday

idk what deck i wanna do next

prolly ghost

[kindred valley]

Idol my beloved

[marble scroll]

Never tried a run with idol ever, but I know when I do it's gonna be a hell of a time

[valid berry]

ive had many idolable runs it just has never shown up when it could

[soft trout]

oh brother

[pale wolf]

wehehe

[soft trout]

ofc the BALATRO seed is cracked

[nova mantle]

Idol in a straight build is something very unique

Id expect something like full house at least

[fading cobalt]

Peakness

[serene forge]

"hey levy what's pair's base mult"

[winter pike]

thanks levy !

[nova mantle]

Levy how many chips does bull give for each dollar

[floral osprey]

it's 2 chips per dollar isn't it

[dense bolt]

Levy, can i sac the tower? The tarot card

[full egret]

Does anyone here have the Galaxy xr and tried to play the game on it?

[fading cobalt]

Is it over?

I discarded and got my hand nvm

Lost at the boss

Bro the run looked so fucking good but my scoring just wouldn't keep up

[kindred valley]

I already had straights locked in

Order was in the first shop

I needed order to not die miserably

[noble shuttle]

lol
-# Levy is such a kewl ytber.

[turbid reef]

The paper jowker is very good!

[soft trout]

so it does appear ante 10

[valid abyss]

sometimes i wonder

[soft trout]

not that it matters now though, my deck is filled with glass queens

[valid abyss]

why blue stake is so fucking terrible

ok thanks for listening

on another note black deck and blue stake both begin with the same 2 letters

coincidence???? i think not

[kindred valley]

And bloodstone

[valid abyss]

do NOT slander bloodstone

[white zodiac]

it only almost killed me four times

[kindred valley]

I hate black deck

How is one supposed to fill 6 joker slots WITHOUT ANY MONEY

[queen cloud]

go! my outdated balatro/silksong meme

[soft trout]

brainstorm and idol in the same shop

[kindred valley]

I'm trying to get a WS with multiple decks

And

Plasma sucks

Black deck also sucks

I can win consistently on every deck except these two

[white zodiac]

so I've heard

[queen cloud]

plasma is shit mid game, early and late game its great

[white zodiac]

late game

consistency is plasmas worst nightmare

[kindred valley]

Some black deck games really do feel impossible without prior knowledge

I was playing one earlier where the only way to win was to skip the small blind for a foil

I doubt most people would do that

[white zodiac]

some ppl do that as a "speedrun" strat for gs 15 decks

that's about it though

[kindred valley]

Idk which to play first if I wanted to win streak all the decks

Like

Black or plasma

[white zodiac]

I played green

first

[kindred valley]

Black is super easy if you're resetting for a good seed

Plasma just doesn't feel good

[white zodiac]

the logical reason would be to win streak from the hardest decks first to the easiest

[kindred valley]

To play

[rancid crown]

Jokerless was pretty easy

[white zodiac]

my dumbass did rotating

[nova mantle]

I guess idol was a picked for gold sticker then

[kindred valley]

I already have all the gold stickers

[white zodiac]

for rotating I did green since it's expensive to spam pairs and black deck was after green

[kindred valley]

He contributed 2x to my score

[nova mantle]

I got mine gold stickered the same way

[kindred valley]

I'd say green isn't that bad

[nova mantle]

Ah, thought you were going for a second c++ like some people do

[white zodiac]

it's not good

for how gs meta operates

on the lower end of my win streaks for the limited time I've spent on it

[kindred valley]

My list I made from hardest to easiest is

Plasma
Black
Green
Erratic
Anaglyph
Painted
Nebula
Zodiac
Abandoned
Magic
Blue
Red
Ghost
Checkered
Yellow

[wintry ice]

whuh

[white zodiac]

eh

[nova mantle]

The humble idol hitting the 2 of spades

[kindred valley]

From a consistency standpoint

Obviously erratic deck is the easiest if you reset for a million queens or something

[wintry ice]

blue below red?

[white zodiac]

red flag

if blue is shoved between something

[nova mantle]

My erratic deck hits be so boring I get maybe an extra queen and 5 extra hearts

[kindred valley]

I'd say blue is harder than red

[wintry ice]

zodiac and abandoned that much below checkered is also a red flag

[kindred valley]

But mostly they're even

[white zodiac]

blue is red with scaling, money, and score

[wintry ice]

extra hands are a factually better perk than extra discards

[white zodiac]

that snowballs

fax

ually

[kindred valley]

They're right next to each other

They're practically even

Imo

[white zodiac]

except they're not in practice

[wintry ice]

blue deck is better by a lot

[kindred valley]

Also checkered is very very easy

[white zodiac]

look what black deck does to you with a one hand difference

[nova mantle]

Personally I had more trouble with painted rather than anaglyph

[wintry ice]

the game's meta really likes having extra hands for scoring, econ and scaling

[nova mantle]

Took me an extra 3 or 4 gold stake runs to get my winning one

[kindred valley]

Anaglyph is my favorite deck

[wintry ice]

and the extra hands also make things that work off discards better

[kindred valley]

I like it a lot

[white zodiac]

painted has the downside of restricting your eternal pickups early

[wintry ice]

so i don't know what you mean by saying they're even

[white zodiac]

yeah

[nova mantle]

More econ, more scoring, even if you don't have that extra discard you could use the extra hand as a discard and at least score something

[wintry ice]

yeah

and that also allows you to draw more purple seals, cards for rebate and jacks for hit the road

[white zodiac]

who knew the meta where you spam a lot of easy poker hands will be rewarded from a hand plentiful deck

[wintry ice]

it's only slightly worse for telescope on large hands

[white zodiac]

hands do more with less resources than discards with less resources

yeah

[rancid crown]

Ngl jokerless was very fun

[kindred valley]

I think both are similarly consistent at least

[wintry ice]

the explanation of why that isn't the case was put out

blue stake about a 30% scoring increase to spammable hands with better earlygame

[nova mantle]

In my 8 winning runs id say it was very fun getting a bunch of negatives or copying an econ tag and making a jimbillion dollars

[nova mantle]

True, but I'd say it was very interesting coming up with ways to manage your score with 4 or even 3 jokers only

[lunar zealot]

Alsp

Blue deck is blue

[nova mantle]

I love me unique decks

[kindred valley]

Imo anaglyph should also start you out with a double tag

[lunar zealot]

And blue > red

[turbid reef]

Used to be a stone hater. But honestly I do like using stone now. 50 chips is great. Especially great with high card builds

[hardy fable]

who needs stone when you get 250 chips

[wintry ice]

balatrodle

[hardy fable]

ehem ehem

[kindred valley]

Depends lol

Stone is usually good but unnecessary in a lot of builds

[wintry ice]

stone cards are extra chips that can be slapped into any smaller hand

and also filters stuff for rebate so

[rancid crown]

Stone cards has their usecases but i almost never use them, i mostly use them for deck fixing to like 'remove cards'

[jagged valve]

I think this run is going fine

[nova mantle]

Stone is goated with those types of hands (pair, double pair, even 3oak)

[night turret]

What to do here? I think I should sacrifice holo?

[turbid reef]

If only I could get him in every game. Balatro would be so easy

[jagged valve]

Sounds fun

[orchid comet]

thats so confusing what does triboutlet do

[jagged valve]

2X per king/queen

Face card deck

[turbid reef]

Basically makes face cards glass

[orchid comet]

oh okay

[white zodiac]

the game thinks one hand is better with how the game plays out. is +1 discard going to be a consistent support in your hand scaling joker set for your build? will it passively give you an extra dollar on early antes? will it relieve some stress on specific boss blinds where hands provide crucial scoring for higher score requirements that pairs in its worst scenario struggle to? discards could have a higher ceiling but for consistency purposes if you want to practice getting wins on, red deck has a slightly higher variance of success even if you're given the same amount of card searching on paper

[wintry ice]

this is what my ranking would roughly look like

[jagged valve]

It took me knowing stone cards always count in any hand to actually use them

[jagged valve]

Looking forward to Anaglyph

[turbid reef]

Which so happen to be the best hands right now

[white zodiac]

stone is cool

[jagged valve]

I dont know what it does yet I wanna find out when I unlock it

Anyways back to run

Just got Telescope

Going for 4oak

[lunar zealot]

PAINTED SLANDER?????

[white zodiac]

sounds about right, I'll put red in my top 6 though

[jagged valve]

5oak soon

[turbid reef]

Yellow deck should be it’s own tier

[orchid comet]

how do u actually fix ur deck is it js relying on tarots

[jagged valve]

I need more deck fixing tho

[turbid reef]

Blue doesn’t compare to yellow

[nova mantle]

Glad someone agrees nebula deck is a dumpster fire

[orchid comet]

like death and hanged man

[lunar zealot]

MY BABY PAINTED DECK 😭 VIC I THOUGHT WE WERE FRIENDS

[nova mantle]

1 consumable slot is miserable

[wintry ice]

it's a bit rough at times

[white zodiac]

yellow and blue share the same spot

[wintry ice]

probably could put it on the same tier as anaglyph and erratic

[nova mantle]

Tho painted deck should be higher

[nova mantle]

Yeh

[white zodiac]

painted has a noticeable downside it makes sense

[nova mantle]

Too much fun for such low ranking

[white zodiac]

no matter how fun it is

[turbid reef]

Erratic is fun. Love finding the perfect seed for hours

Hit new run until I get a seed with 10 kings

[nova mantle]

Big hands are so easy to find tho

[wintry ice]

j

[jagged valve]

Do I go for Trio ?

[nova mantle]

Full houses/straights/flushes are the lifeblood of painted

[white zodiac]

big hands aren't what's getting the long streaks

[wintry ice]

yea

[turbid reef]

No stencil is doing so much rn

[white zodiac]

k

[jagged valve]

Replace TD List tho

[nova mantle]

Fun for me regardless

[jagged valve]

I'm already winning this run

[nova mantle]

I'm a big fan of painted

[jagged valve]

2M at a 3oak

[white zodiac]

this is a strength tier list

fun I could see it in the upper half for me

[zinc karma]

Most useful stencil

[white zodiac]

stm and all that

[turbid reef]

mfw I learned that stuntman haters exist

[wintry ice]

if this was about fun then painted with be A or S tier

[nova mantle]

Stencil is doing NOTHING bro pick that up 😭

[turbid reef]

Emotional support is more valuable than anything else

[vocal rose]

address me

[white zodiac]

it's a stowaway

[jagged valve]

Im at black deck

So its doing 2X

[nova mantle]

Fun tier list must have anaglyph on a high tier

[jagged valve]

Black Deck

[vocal rose]

x mult

[white zodiac]

x worth

[pale wolf]

zoahl

[jagged valve]

Pay attention yall 🫩🫩

[nova mantle]

Oh damn I didn't notice lmao

[jagged valve]

Ill still choose it over TDL

I guess

[turbid reef]

Too difficult

[jagged valve]

So stencil keeps doing stuff

[nova mantle]

Can't

[jagged valve]

I already got leveled hands so no need for the +10 mult ever

And I'm fine moneywise

I'll be saving even more

And I'm only doing 2 hand types sooo

Could use Wasteful

And more Deaths

Got a Polychrome Queen

[turbid reef]

I’ll do black deck gold stake whenever blue stake rework is out

[kindred valley]

Personally I'd put zodiac behind red

[turbid reef]

Black deck will be much easier whenever that is out

[white zodiac]

do it now for the "learning experience"

[vocal rose]

not necessarily

[jagged valve]

I'm not at blue stake yet

[nova mantle]

I'll do black deck last so I give more time for localfunk to make the update for this reason

[jagged valve]

I don't know what it does

[vocal rose]

blue stake rework is a balancing change not a difficulty rework

it could still be on the same level of difficulty

[white zodiac]

zodiac is more shop (less rng) it makes sense being just under the top 3

[vocal rose]

2 months at the minimum

[turbid reef]

But the change would benefit black deck.

[white zodiac]

all decks

[vocal rose]

is the blue stake rework exclusive to black deck?

[kindred valley]

Black deck would still be objectively the hardest deck

[turbid reef]

Yeah but black deck would benefit more than other deck

[white zodiac]

we don't know the blue stake rework and black deck has been like this for years

[white zodiac]

you still have 3 hands to work with

[vocal rose]

there’s no basis

the rework could be as hard or even harder

[white zodiac]

25% less scoring and hand moeny

[vocal rose]

just more “balanced”

[turbid reef]

More opportunities to try to get stronger hands. Early game will probably be easier

[white zodiac]

you still can't buy most uncommons or riff raff after one whiff

[wintry ice]

A tier is pretty much interchangeable

[white zodiac]

3 pairs isn't enough with a common mult hand scaler

[vocal rose]

once again we have no clue there’s no information about the rework

[white zodiac]

etc

[nova mantle]

Whatever rework comes out will be less miserable than the current state tbh

[vocal rose]

if it strictly removed the rework then yes

it’ll be easier

[vocal rose]

likely

[white zodiac]

I think zodiac and red could be a 4 and 5 but they're all very close in utility

thunky still has intentions of black deck being the challenging vanilla deck

[turbid reef]

The rework is it won’t be -1 discard anymore. There isn’t anything else local thunk can do to make bigger hands harder to get other than reducing hand size

So it’s probably going to a buff to black deck early game

[white zodiac]

we don't know what boss blinds or stakes he'll introduce that would potentially cripple 5 card draws

[jagged valve]

Should I reroll the Boss Blind all my face cards getting debuffed def 🙃

Also yeah these Tarots are ass

I wish there was a Hate Deck that prevented Lovers from ever showing up

[white zodiac]

those enhancements will remove your debuffed cards on boss blind

[jagged valve]

Wait fair

Idk if I'll keep them by then though

[white zodiac]

kid named 1.1 lovers rework next update

[jagged valve]

I saw

[white zodiac]

it'll be on you if you die to card debuffs

[jagged valve]

I don't wanna reroll Water or Plant tho that'd suck

[white zodiac]

here's an example

not a boss blind but a case where tarots saves you from dying

[jagged valve]

I see

I know tarots do that and undebuff cards as if you never played them

I just don't wanna give up the enhancements on most of my queens for lucky and wild tbh

Polychrome mostly

[hardy fable]

synergy

[white zodiac]

I didn't want to inflate the suits I had the most of for aj either but I lived

at most you could exchange lovers for a 2 enhancement tarot or one you prefer

[hardy fable]

who needs handsize when you have deckfixing

I'm the optimal play trust

IT'S STILL OPTIMAL

IT IS

I'M A 51X JOKER

[unreal iron]

HANDY TAG MY GOAAAAAT

another 2 hard stickers down

[jagged valve]

I SHOULD be fine for Crimson Heart

[jagged valve]

Also I rerolled and got serpent

[hardy fable]

[jagged valve]

My first mega buffoon

[lunar zealot]

i never trust mega buffoons but i always end up opening them

Must be because of the brainstorm on the cover

[twin lantern]

I saw someone suggest that black deck should start with jimbo

[rugged umbra]

stencil carry

[twin lantern]

Pretty solid suggestion tbh

[rugged umbra]

🔥

[unreal iron]

lebron james reportedly used the emperor on the nebula deck (no crystal ball)

[hasty harness]

negative skip go brrrr

[pale wolf]

??

[hasty harness]

okay abstract made the negatives skips actually worth lol

[ember turtle]

do i sell chad

[balmy ridge]

is there a way to find the internal suit of your stone cards?

[ember turtle]

not really... you just have to change the enhancement i think

[jagged valve]

Do I even go for that mega buffon just for completion? Think Spectral may benefit me more especially with a red seal on poly

Don't know how good megas are, I'd assume not much especially after Stencil

[idle bear]

Just beat this seed using only two stencils with polychrome, until I picked up gros Michel before the 8th ante boss. You can get an ankh in the first or second store, and I just kept leveling up the flush hand

[jagged valve]

Why lmao

[ember turtle]

wakw

[jagged valve]

Are you being ironic cuz that's a Black Deck

[ember turtle]

beautiful

[idle bear]

Tbh, stencil is kinda good if you got a good setup

[jagged valve]

I'm getting like 200Mil rn

At ante 9

Idk how far this will get anymore

[jagged valve]

Not what I was looking for in the run

But teach me if u see anything

Other than the obvious undebuffing of my cards

[floral mural]

probably no ironic since 2 black deck stencils are a lot of xmult

[queen cloud]

what is happening

[hasty harness]

<@&1133519078540185692>

scam

[jagged valve]

Dieee

[jagged valve]

Only 1 tho

I'm like almost guaranteed to make the trio hit

Looking for family maybe

Looking for Planet X cards now

[heavy heron]

bro someone tell me what stupid ahhh build i’m making

yall ain't see the flush baron yet

[rugged pecan]

Anyone need a joker? 😭

[twin lantern]

Surely Michelle only made you weaker

[tribal marsh]

is there any reliable way to get past ante 24 with a baron build?

im always coming just short of e77

around e70 is what im getting on all my baron runs

[serene forge]

guy is complaining about not getting jokers... while skipping blinds... on gold stake

[late helm]

omfg I finally understand madness

its so peak

[lunar zealot]

why is this our average player

[hasty harness]

you need ecto's and the right jokers

[lunar zealot]

This is the median

[hasty harness]

and also after u pass ante 24

switch dna out for burgular

[lunar zealot]

well average =/= median

But you get me

[hasty harness]

and farm serpent

with retcon

@tribal marsh ^

[tribal marsh]

i had retcon and great econ

[hasty harness]

then how did u die

[tribal marsh]

and i know what to do past ante 24

[hasty harness]

didnt find burglar

?

[serene forge]

I think dna is needed for ante 24

[tribal marsh]

no i died at ante 24

[tribal marsh]

i had dna too

[idle bear]

Actually it did help almost double it.

[hasty harness]

yeah dna is needed for ante 24 then switch out

[tribal marsh]

i had mime baron negative blueprint and two brainstorms

[lunar zealot]

this shit dies hard to hook and vv n shit

[serene forge]

and afterwards you can use retcon to farm serpent and fullskip

[tribal marsh]

a showman as well but ic ouldnt get anything with it

[hasty harness]

extra copy joker would have helped

did u have full steel red seals?

[serene forge]

that sounds like the issue here

[hasty harness]

and both hand size vouchers?

[tribal marsh]

yeah this run was definitely the showman

[tribal marsh]

could only get 1

got antimatter and overstock plus tho

and both rerolls

best ive gotten was e73

[heavy heron]

oh it doesn't stop there, trust me

[hasty harness]

well that also effects ur score a pretty good amount

[tribal marsh]

yeah true

i wasnt able to get a second ecto either

but

i dont think a second ecto would be worth it before ante 24

[hasty harness]

ur worry wasnt second ecto there

u still had a open joker slot

showman

[tribal marsh]

true true

would troubador also be enough?

[hasty harness]

perhaps

only a temporary solution thos

since you'd need to burglar and another copy joker

for naninf

im pretty sure

once u pass ante 24

[white zodiac]

#🕹・game-discussion message

[grizzled jetty]

is that white looking joker worth it? i havent unlocked him yet

[lunar zealot]

marble here specifically is probably terrible

[grizzled jetty]

why?

should i skip?

[cunning glen]

yes

[cunning glen]

im pretty sure it creates a stone card when u select a blind

[slate lance]

Chat what do i sell for campfire

Or should i even sell smt for campfire

At first i thought trading card but its rlly good for deck fixing and econ

[uncut slate]

is swashy doig anything

[slate lance]

Its at +15 but im afraid to lose it

I mean maybe i shouldnt be

Cause i can fall back on acrobat

[uncut slate]

yeah you should have decent scoring here

idk swash is the obvious pick here to me

black deck is black deck and u might just die

[slate lance]

Hopefully not lol, this is my best run on orange stake so far

I had a pretty nice purple stake today

Burnt joker is so damn op 😭

But alr I'll sell swashbuckler

[jagged valve]

Good while it lasted

Shouldnt have took petroglyph

[grizzled jetty]

guys, what if there was a joker that allowed you to play 6 cards at once?

why not zeba?

[brave goblet]

flush 6 💢

[grizzled jetty]

no, like it will still require only 5 cards, but rthen you can play like a stone card or something

[brave goblet]

fuller house 💢

Probably a lot of fringe cases that need to be coded in, such as rank priortization, and in any case it goes against the fundamental rules of poker

poker is five card hands maximum

[grizzled jetty]

fair

still, quite an idea

[brave goblet]

Just play cryptid mod to see what more than 5 card hands are like lol

[grizzled jetty]

i might

[modest stirrup]

1.2 mil in ante 4

not bad at all

[slate lance]

I won 🙏

Seeing double is so underrated

[wispy hound]

hard fumbled ts bro i’m so mad but i gotta new high score

had insane potential dude

[lunar zealot]

no red seals?

[modest stirrup]

fucking finally beat black deck gold stake

[hasty harness]

ofc the blueprint spawns RIGHT

after the negative skip

ended

💀

[wispy hound]

couldn’t acquire one 💔

[tardy spade]

seed?

IAVJI1IL ?

[gentle canopy]

Best gold stake run

[wispy hound]

yea i think

it’s in the second ss

[tardy spade]

is that a V or a U

[wispy hound]

U

[narrow wadi]

it's certificate here right?

both jokers i don't take much but like

certificate is pretty good

[tardy spade]

blue seals are good

[narrow wadi]

honestly anything but red seal is good this early

[slate lance]

IM FINALLY FREE FROM FLUSHES

THE WHITE STAKE STAIN HAS WASHED OFF

[tardy spade]

there is some consideration for stm given that its black deck and you get mult from it

[narrow wadi]

this is why i'm asking lol, any other deck i'd auto pickup certificate

[warped moth]

Congratulations!

[narrow wadi]

cos it's black deck idk

[stark karma]

Literally pick up any seals you see and strength the fuck out of them

[slate lance]

TYANK U!!

[stark karma]

Or yeah cert is very good

[slate lance]

Ye but

Certificate doesnr give any mult there

And there's not a 100% chance he'll get a good enough joker to take him through round 3

[narrow wadi]

rewarded

[narrow wadi]

i'm on black deck i rly don't mind resetting

just decided to finally gold stake everything

so need to do plasma and black

[hasty harness]

+mult gang 😭

[slate lance]

Ofc im just saying, cert is pretty risky
Especially since itll only give 5 seals

Ofc, death can multiply that

Or even cryptid

But its still losing value

[narrow wadi]

i tend to sell cert around 5 rounds in so doesn't rly matter to me imo, cos i'm playing black deck i play more highrolly

any other deck i go for consistency

[wispy hound]

well like i said, i couldn’t acquire a red seal

[narrow wadi]

imo red seal is the worst on high stakes

[slate lance]

What doea highrolly mean 😭 sorry

[stark karma]

Statistically that’s not possible

[wispy hound]

you wanna scan the seed?

[narrow wadi]

like playing for things going well and seeing what i wanna see, not doing the plays that are always good

[hasty harness]

aka getting lucky when making suboptimal plays

[tall sky]

yknow, sixth sense + pareidollia + canio wasn't the combo i expected but it was the combo I needed

[narrow wadi]

prett much lol, black deck is the only deck i play like this tbh

[hasty harness]

lol

wth is this run

just sold abstract for the soul and got chicot

[narrow wadi]

i think u need more +mult

[hasty harness]

🤫

[narrow wadi]

what's constellation even scaling here

[hasty harness]

2.7

i had astronomer

perishable

[narrow wadi]

only 5 +mult jokers

[hasty harness]

i had abstract as well 😭

[narrow wadi]

constellation xmulting nearly nothing

[hasty harness]

sold for chicot

[narrow wadi]

lmao

that's funny af

chicot probably good ngl

[hasty harness]

yeah

[narrow wadi]

ur build broken enough that u just want anti bs

[slate lance]

Oh right

Thats fair enough ig since black decks a bit bs

[hasty harness]

and i just hit polychrome on supernova from a wheel

:/

wth

[slate lance]

Im High staking black rn too

[narrow wadi]

ur so fucking greedy lol

[slate lance]

I was doing horrible a fouple days ago but i took a break and ive gone up from purple to gold

[narrow wadi]

give me some of that mult pls

[narrow wadi]

i've gone 8 tries for the first 6 stakes on black deck which honestly i'm pretty happy with

given how awful black deck is

[cosmic sun]

what no stickers does to a mf

[narrow wadi]

i miss yellow deck

[hasty harness]

i see wheel i hit wheel

🤑

[nocturne fable]

diddy blud geeking

[hasty harness]

gold stake black deck 💔

ts hard

[narrow wadi]

same, even if it wasn't a good tarot i'd do this cos i'm a degenerate gambler

[slate lance]

Me too
It was my first gold, followed by painted and nebula
Blacks gonna be my 4th

[narrow wadi]

mine was anaglyph cos it's rly fun lol

yellow is my most consistent on gold stake by far tho

[neat haven]

is there any workaround playing modded on my pc at home and vanilla on my laptop

game crashes on my laptop

[narrow wadi]

rly?

[neat haven]

yeah

and theres a cloud save conflict

im on a macbook

[narrow wadi]

i'm on a shitty laptop with no mods and it's fine

ahh i'm on dell so idk

[neat haven]

no the game worked before i modded it

[narrow wadi]

ah

i don't mod before getting 100% on a game and i'm a way off of c++ lol

[neat haven]

i modded it for the qol mods

like the dragging to pick cards

[daring perch]

Handy my beloved

[neat haven]

our*

[slate lance]

I should do that
Ive been trynna do the hardest to get them out the way lol but i cant wait to actually have fun

[narrow wadi]

this is the optimal way to play ngl but i'm an autistic completionist lol

[slate lance]

Either green or anaglyph will be my next

[narrow wadi]

green is one of the easiest on gold imo

anaglyph is harder

but anaglyph is a lot more fun

[slate lance]

Just gotta pray for negative lol

[neat haven]

im autistic in the sense that i need qol mods or i dont play them (im also lazy)

[narrow wadi]

lol fair

[neat haven]

im using the spectral deck rn

[daring perch]

“I sure do love running Card Sharp on my high card build!”
Evil and intimidating The Eye:

[neat haven]

i finally unlocked plasma :D

[narrow wadi]

the highroll negative skip being semi consistent makes the deck so much fun lmao

[neat haven]

i got it with yellow deck

[cosmic sun]

the problem is nova

[hasty harness]

okay @narrow wadi wth

[blissful shard]

finally

[hasty harness]

i might be a LITTLE lucky

[cosmic sun]

gg

[hasty harness]

.

[narrow wadi]

ur hand size seems way too big ngl, u need a few ectos on this run

[neat haven]

bro

[nocturne fable]

is this a normal completion

[hasty harness]

tbh if i dont want to throw run i dont take soul but uh

i think ill be fine either way

:p

[blissful shard]

now i need to beat jokerless and gneedle

[daring perch]

i wish i saw like. any useful spectrals

[narrow wadi]

lmao, the optimal play is probably to skip the soul but like soul is always the most fun play to make

[hasty harness]

yeah i think ill win anyway

ill just sell supernova

[daring perch]

i skipped for ethereal tag twice and they were both near uselesd

[hasty harness]

i got trib

when i have ride the bus

:/

[narrow wadi]

imma try get ur sold supernova in my run ngl

[hasty harness]

lol

ngl this seed could have some fun potential

there was an ankh earlier on

[daring perch]

50/50 of a bad legendary

[narrow wadi]

with the amount of +mult u have it might be fine to pivot lmao

[neat haven]

how it feels to get a -1 hand

[hasty harness]

if u were on white stake and ankh'd the chicot

[daring perch]

yorick and trib are not great here

[hasty harness]

and did the bug for handspace

👀

[hasty harness]

i got trib lol

i think i win anyway tho

[narrow wadi]

i recently had a gold stake win with chicot and matador, lmao that's basically the same thing

[daring perch]

canio would be amazing though

if only

[hasty harness]

yeah i still score 120k+ per pair

[narrow wadi]

i got early hologram and rtb so only needed 2 jokers for scoring lol

[hasty harness]

supernova wasnt that big a hit

so its fine

would it be funny if i sold trib to gold sticker ramen

😈

[daring perch]

it would be hilarious

[narrow wadi]

i am colourblind but that ramen looks like it has a gold sticker already

[hasty harness]

i dont plan to take this into endless anyway

so

might as well

[hasty harness]

its orange

[daring perch]

that’s the joke i think

[narrow wadi]

ahh it looks very gold to me lmao

[daring perch]

damn

[narrow wadi]

i'm too colourblind to get it if it was a joke lol

[hasty harness]

ngl its a lil hard to tell at certain animation cycles

the other pic looked gold lol

[narrow wadi]

even in the second pic it looks gold to me lmao

[unreal elbow]

violet vessel it's joever

[hasty harness]

welp i just sold trib

:p

free gold sticker

[shell current]

Nah you got this

[unreal elbow]

i'll do a prayer

[narrow wadi]

trib is an easy gold sticker with resetting for ante 1 skp soul so it's chill imo

[hasty harness]

yeah i already have it done i think

only 2 legendaries i need gold r perkeo and

yorick

[shell current]

If you don’t make it just remember it’s because only $9 in the bank and not because of violet vessel

[hasty harness]

i forget

nvm i need trib as well

but its fine like u said

[narrow wadi]

my only gold sticker legendary is chicot which is kinda funny for me given it's the worst

[hasty harness]

trib is pretty easy

[hasty harness]

tbh for ante 1-8 it def isnt the worst

its pretty solid

[narrow wadi]

the only boss chicot rly helps on in 90% of gold stake runs is violet vessel

[hasty harness]

depends on ur build as well tho

like if ur playing pairs and run into repeat hand times you may be dead

unless your jokers have you

[narrow wadi]

i nearly always go +mult, +chips, xmult which debuffed cards don't matter imo

[narrow wadi]

i forgot about this one tbf

[hasty harness]

yeah me as well but depends on playstyle

[narrow wadi]

i lost a gold stake run recently where the only xmult i saw was card sharp

[hasty harness]

rip