🕹・game-discussion

[blissful cedar]

I played a 3 of a kind over a pair so hoodie man didnt proc and save me

[fading cobalt]

Because if you play straights, 2 pairs or full house or even flushes then you can get value from both of them

[blissful cedar]

First blue stake run i was happy to unlock the next deck 😔

[safe moat]

I have found my blunder

[blissful cedar]

They dont proc.on face cards they are both ass

Im joking i have nothing against them

The only card ill actively hate on is flash card

For max value you literally need both reroll vouchers or the d6 tag

[fading cobalt]

Flash card is fine wdym

Its like red card but slightly worse

[blissful cedar]

Its one of the most expensive jokers in the game

[fading cobalt]

If you get flash card with reroll surplus then you're cooking. If you get red card with discount voucher then you're cooking

[fading cobalt]

It depends on your seed man

[blissful cedar]

Red card is nuch better it scales faster and you can pick something out of megas and still skip for mult and sometimes you will literally want to skip packs

[fading cobalt]

If you have great econ then you'll grab it

[safe moat]

Red card and hallucination

[blissful cedar]

Rerolling and buying cards out of shop is objectively more expensive then skipping packs

[fading cobalt]

Yeah red cards better but my point is they're pretty similar to a point that hating on flash card makes no sense

[blissful cedar]

There are so many other and better things you can do with great econ than throwing it away on flash card.

Its one of the weakest jokers in the game imo

[winter pike]

similar concept yes but it's still much worse

[blissful cedar]

But i haven't completed blue stake so my opinion might be irrelevant

[lucid plank]

My ante 1 decided it was double econ time... But I barely managed to beat the boss where I used all hands and it was just enough to get exactly 600

[winter pike]

$12 average flash card for +6 mult

[lucid plank]

[winter pike]

and average red card is around $9

for +6

[white zodiac]

it pretty much carries up there

[blissful cedar]

Bullshit

[shell current]

I can't stop fixing my deck

[fading cobalt]

I wouldn't say its MUCH worse when the difference is 3 dollars bro

[white zodiac]

no i mean the logic of it being mediocre

[blissful cedar]

i gotta go unlock this deck i digress

[cosmic sun]

well it's a given you open booster packs most of the time

[winter pike]

25%

[fading cobalt]

And eventually you start rerolling atleast twice per shop which is the same as buying 2 packs per shop

[shell current]

flash card is bad until it's good, red card is always good

[white zodiac]

and yk what a 1 dollar difference makes under rental circumstances

[fading cobalt]

Red card can have situations where its bad

For example bad econ

[cosmic sun]

I think the point is you do both and red card benefitting from packs already makes it better

[shell current]

the base ev on opening packs is higher than rerolling so you are more likely to do that anyway

[winter pike]

if flash card is good for you red card is better

[shell current]

and red card makes it so packs literally never miss

[abstract vapor]

Do I take scary face here?

[winter pike]

if red card is bad for you flash card is worse

[white zodiac]

this doesn’t really solidify Jj’s viability

[winter pike]

unless you have enough to rerolling like 10 times a shop

[white zodiac]

red card gives more mult for a cheaper amount with a chance to reap hermits/temperance

[fading cobalt]

I'm trying to say situationally red card and flash card can be both good and bad

[white zodiac]

dawg you can say that for literally any joker

[fading cobalt]

You also have a chance of getting hermits and temperances from rerolling tho

[fading cobalt]

Thats exactly my point

[shell current]

flash card specifically needs support to be better than baseline red card

[cosmic sun]

ppl usually argue for consistency so

[fading cobalt]

How so

[winter pike]

every joker is S tier (in the right situation )

[fading cobalt]

[white zodiac]

a 3 in 22 in the 4 in 28 is not a probability i would hedge on for money returns

[shell current]

because opening booster packs is better than rerolling on average

[cosmic sun]

also isn't flash card $18 for 6 mult at base

[abstract vapor]

The same can be said about mime, mime can be the most useless joker and at times the best joker in the game

[winter pike]

149/150 of the jokers are good in the right situation

[cosmic sun]

compared to red card

lmao

[white zodiac]

we’re just ignoring math

[shell current]

if you have bare minimum econ aka $25 in the bank you are going to open 1-2 packs and reroll zero times

[white zodiac]

today

[cosmic sun]

ah let me list a niche situation where you get hermits

really helpful

[white zodiac]

would you rather have

1 dollar

or 2 dollars

[winter pike]

how the hell did i get $12

im actually stupid

[shell current]

if you have 1-2 strong econ jokers then obv the cieling on flash card is going to be higher

[white zodiac]

it’s 11pm for me we don’t get up there all the time

[cosmic sun]

the red card one sounds more accurate

[winter pike]

3am 😭

[white zodiac]

omg dude

[shell current]

and it's not a bad way to funnel good econ into scoring if you pick it up mid-late game

[abstract vapor]

European?

[shell current]

but red card will carry a whole run from ante 1

[winter pike]

yep

[white zodiac]

well if you’re suffering from success, Jj is prob your preferred mult sink to find other jokers and consumables

[winter pike]

ill sleep soon maybe

[white zodiac]

maybe

[winter pike]

if my next wheel hits

ill sleep

[white zodiac]

no you won’t

[winter pike]

you dont know that

[versed hemlock]

lol

[abstract vapor]

Chat what do you guys think about a rare joker that shows the first item in packs

[lyric shore]

bad, im opening them anyway

[plush osprey]

balatro fellas

how do we feel about

[white zodiac]

idk

mid

[plush osprey]

you didn’t let me finish

[white zodiac]

that’s what they all say

[shell current]

would be interesting as a deck but only feels relevant antes 1-3

[abstract vapor]

Wait maybe as a deck could be better

[surreal spruce]

Mid

[shell current]

also it would be really weird with the way the shop queue works

[half plover]

Guys

[shell current]

The cards in booster packs are seeded to appear in a particular order and that queue typically only advances when you look inside

[half plover]

I need your opinion

[white zodiac]

mid

[half plover]

Uhm so basically i started a run

And then

[plush osprey]

changes every ante?

[white zodiac]

tragedy struck?

[winter pike]

i havent seen a wheel yet

[half plover]

I really didn't know how but

[winter pike]

balatro doesnt want me to sleep

[plush osprey]

take bainstorm

[half plover]

Not only that, after that brainstorm i skipped a blind

[white zodiac]

skip for red card

[half plover]

⚰️

[vocal rose]

I believe so

[white zodiac]

yep

[vocal rose]

every ante has a different queue

[shell current]

yeah but if you had say all arcana packs in one ante you would keep seeing the same tarot

[white zodiac]

the ante shops follow a queue, they’re not independent from their blinds

[half plover]

And then

[shell current]

and also what would take priority for duplicate blocking?

[plush osprey]

the pack one

[vocal rose]

bye runner

[shell current]

that's actually pretty strong then

[half plover]

ofc

[solid tapir]

why is venits in D tier

🥀

[plush osprey]

bait used to be believable

[shell current]

Swap flush/3oak and flush5/5oak and you’re kind of cooking

[white zodiac]

better players please give feedback

[frank raft]

move the secret hands down one respectivly, and move venus to like A bro

[lost vault]

ive seen worse

[winter pike]

guess what

i found a wheel

first one, and it hit

guess ill sleep now

[upbeat seal]

i actually made a tier list that was on topic for once

[viral mountain]

Friend just sent this

[marsh goblet]

blackboard is always there for me

i love blackboard

peak joker

i love balatro

[white zodiac]

saved me in a stupid flush mishap one time

[marsh goblet]

this run feels like balatro

[zinc karma]

I just learned that perkeo is not a woman 🤔 im kinda sad and feeling dumb now

[tawdry gazelle]

Why is there a second, blue 8-ball?

[round nexus]

Gold stickers are making me do the sketchiest builds

[zinc karma]

Wtf are u doing playing on green deck?

[round nexus]

I wouldnt have taken the runner if i knew baseball card was coming up. As for stone joker, i only picked it up for the sticker. I had a spaceman who popped off and gave me like 6 levels on straights in the first few antes but i sold him for the stone joker lol

[round nexus]

it worked didnt it?

I was barely scoring enough as it is, and the violet vessel made me give up hope. But a couple steel cards barely got me through the round

[round nexus]

I like green deck. But also, to make this challenge more enjoyable, im picking random decks to keep things fresh

[eager lynx]

should i do anything guys?

[left juniper]

win

[left juniper]

Technically Smiley should be leftmost

[eager lynx]

chat i forgot i was playing the needle..

[eager lynx]

is too late now but thanks

[left juniper]

Been there 🙁 it sucks

And you may say "I will learn my lesson for next time"

You wont

[coral summit]

I understand that this is a WEIRD set of Jokers, but what would Brainstorm benefit from here?

[ivory sun]

oops all trouble

[coral summit]

Is a Brainstorm that copies the ability of Gros Michel capable of being destroyed by its own ability?

[fervent wolf]

No

[spiral cairn]

hik

[spiral cairn]

no

sadly

that would be a cool achievement

get cavendish destroyed and a brainstorm or blueprint along with it

[lucid plank]

<@&1133519078540185692>

[left juniper]

<@&1133519078540185692> Another speedrunner has entered the server 👀

[craggy hearth]

dawg

[trail sierra]

rip automod

[craggy hearth]

I hate that those symbols exist

[lucid plank]

[trail hemlock]

Speedrunner lol

[marsh goblet]

kinda tempted to take oops here

[lucid plank]

Thanks mod team, may a nat neg blueprint be in your next run

[left juniper]

Wait just to be clear. I'm not saying speedrunners are racist. I'm saying they were speedrunning a ban 😆 I realise my error

[lucid plank]

[terse gyro]

bruhhhhh

[lucid plank]

Both absolutely useless ante 1

[rancid glade]

whats the ante 1 score wr unseeded? (without hieroglyph)

[left juniper]

Hex Baron and sell it later

[marsh goblet]

chat do i sell chaos the clown for oops

[left juniper]

I would

[marsh goblet]

alr time to rock two non-scoring eternals on painted

[left juniper]

Good question. Erratic or Plasma I could see giving some crazy scores early

[left juniper]

Yeah but you 2 scoring jokers will hard carry 🙏

[manic zealot]

wth even am I looking at

[marsh goblet]

oh absolutely they will, especially cuz im playing 4oak

[manic zealot]

dude blackboard always comes in clutch

[spiral cairn]

what even

[marsh goblet]

even with an unfixed deck you just play pairs and ball

it's so lit

chat i think this is a little overkill for ante 4

[manic zealot]

it's great and actually benefits from lower hand size so it pairs (haha) really well with stuntman

[marsh goblet]

also why is oops always an eternal

what's up with that

[acoustic kettle]

I think ante 1 wr has to be on plasma

[spiral cairn]

i swear

[manic zealot]

that is overkill and I love it

I swear lately all my wraits have given me vagabonds, not that I'm complaining

[marsh goblet]

vagabond is my favorite joker

[lucid plank]

I had an ancient joker nearly take me to beating blue stake on black... But i missed my flush by 1 card on ante 8 big blind

[marsh goblet]

i took an eternal vagabond on painted with no hesitation

[manic zealot]

it's easily top 5 best jokers for me

[marsh goblet]

3 joker slots no problem

i have the best joker in the game

[manic zealot]

it does so much work

[marsh goblet]

it really does

[manic zealot]

for such little cost

[marsh goblet]

it's scoring, econ, deckfixing, and more jokers in one joker

[manic zealot]

absolutely

[trail hemlock]

No, I get the joke lol

Man people in this server are very afraid of the ban hammer, or ABSOLUTELY not lol

[lucid plank]

Black deck is so evil. That -1 hand makes a massive difference

[left juniper]

I'm scared of it. Not afraid to admit I love this community and I don't wanna leave 😄

Must be on best-ish behaviour

[marsh goblet]

the needle scares the shit outta me i feel like i take this skip tag

only 10 jacks in my 37 card deck

[left juniper]

Acrobat is so good against against the needle too

[marsh goblet]

eh true

i probably clear without a 4oak lmao

tfw oops + wheel

run's won

lucky cat is 5x at ante 6 lmao

without retriggers

[manic zealot]

is anything missing here

to me it feels pretty good but I wanna hear some 2nd opinions

[tawdry gazelle]

full size photograph looks cursed

[manic zealot]

true

[tawdry gazelle]

Prob should have drivers license instead of blackboard

[manic zealot]

lol I put it in B tier because I don't always get it online

but it should probably be higher

blackboard has saved my ass on multiple occasions so it would be rude to kick him out of S tier

[subtle steppe]

omg early soul

[manic zealot]

whoa what is it fart lord

[coral summit]

Ok, big boss here

What’s the plan

3oak is my highest scoring hand

[subtle steppe]

nvm its a chicot

[coral summit]

I can throw on the mult 7 before the glass and add the stone

What about my joker order

[manic zealot]

save the glass 9 and 3oak 9s for last hand fs

[coral summit]

Oh true

[manic zealot]

and save a stone card or 2 to use in your final hand with it

[coral summit]

Right

What should my order be for my jokers

[manic zealot]

what's your xmult on your constellation

and whats the +mult on ride the bus

[coral summit]

x4.4
+25

[manic zealot]

I would probably copy the constellation like you have there

your order seems decent for what you're going for

[coral summit]

Ok

[manic zealot]

if you lose I take zero responsibility for it tho

but I think you got this

[coral summit]

Okay, after exhausting all of my discards and hands, here’s what I’ve got

A purple token (forgot what those are called) gave me hierophant

I got another 9

I now have 2 glass 9s

[manic zealot]

purple seal

[manic zealot]

oh then you probably have this in the bag

[coral summit]

I can use hierophant to make the other 9s give more chips

Do I add a stone card or a mult card

[manic zealot]

hmmm

[coral summit]

Because that’s a 4oak

Splash lets me add something else

[manic zealot]

mult card. and you're aiming for 3oak right cuz it's the highest scoring hand?

[coral summit]

No; 3oak was my highest at the time

[manic zealot]

ah i see

[coral summit]

4oak is even higher

[left delta]

This has been an interesting seed so far lol

[manic zealot]

I would go for the mult card in front ahead of your glass cards

for that extra mmph

[coral summit]

Ok

Wish me luck

[marsh goblet]

ideal

[manic zealot]

gl

how'd it go

are you winning son

[coral summit]

PURPLE STAKE

[manic zealot]

lessgoo

[coral summit]

VANQUISHED

[manic zealot]

damn you crushed that violet vessel

[coral summit]

Acrobat carried

[valid abyss]

h-h-hit da road?

[manic zealot]

I love acrobat

[marsh goblet]

truth nuke

[manic zealot]

dude the other day I died to the crimson heart because it deactivated my acrobat on my final hand

so tragic

[coral summit]

Ok so funny story I was desperate in ante 8 and used 4 double tags for mega buffoon packs

Acrobat was on the last pack

I sold vagabond for it

[manic zealot]

that's awesome

[simple bronze]

how do i find the last joker

[lunar zealot]

which is it

[simple bronze]

its a very useless one

[lunar zealot]

hmm vaga

very good early game

Like insanely good early game

falls off a bit late game because by that point you should stabilize econ and sell out of it

[simple bronze]

i can't score with it

[lunar zealot]

you can in a roundabout way

if you get it early then you shouldn't try score much anyway

Use all 4 hands

1 tarot per hand is literally insane value

if you consider that the baseline cartomancer is 1 tarot per blind select

The way you can do this is to get lots of money so you can open packs and reroll to find vagabond

it's a rare

Then just use it as a dud while you beat the run with your other jokers

otherwise if you get it early then play into it

[stiff fjord]

what is this buffoon pack

[teal thunder]

yet another rough gem W

[lucid plank]

Gz

[strong cedar]

I just pulled off erosion and hologram in the same run on gold stake wtf

[strong cedar]

and somehow won

[lucid plank]

Nice

[strong cedar]

without messing shit up

LOL

[lucid plank]

You walk a fine line

[strong cedar]

I had to scale throwback to get enough points

Erosion was only +16

[lucid plank]

My recent gold stake win was just stencil... 3 of them

[strong cedar]

Hologram 2.25x
throwback 2.5x

I also had a cavendish

It was full house build on abandoned deck

[tawny grove]

murder green? nova?

[strong cedar]

chips came from Todd

[left delta]

This is so meeean

[strong cedar]

also in tons of debt so throwback scaling saved my sorry ass so much

still not even breaking past 0 after cash out

[lucid plank]

Which one is higher?

[strong cedar]

OH

SPEED TAG

35 BUCKS

SURE CAN DO

economy saved

[tawny grove]

nova for sure. but if ever i got into one of those cant use high blinds im fucked

director's cut aint showing itself

[strong cedar]

Eh I died anyways

[lucid plank]

Ox would suck

[tawny grove]

ikr

would definitely kill me lol

[strong cedar]

either way that’s the third gold stake W in a row

decks were nebula, then checkered, then abandoned
wonder what deck to do next

Black will likely kill me off I’ll save that for last if I’m gonna rotate thru em all

I’ll do yellow

[simple bronze]

what do i sell for the chad?

[simple bronze]

got lucky lol on next run

[tacit stream]

base mult for your go-to hand?

[simple bronze]

level 1

[manic talon]

sometimes wheel just does this for no reason

[jagged torrent]

Orange stake 💔

[shell current]

this depends so much on hand levels and the runner/pants numbers

[tacit stream]

I'm leaning on selling pants assuming you play consistent full houses for using triboulet.

[simple bronze]

hand levels 0 runner pants is around 75

[left delta]

Right!? Fun seed though- trying out gold now

[shell current]

you aren't selling shit for the chad here lol

it comes back around

[simple bronze]

oops

[shell current]

o7

praying you draw the 4oak with glass, soldier

[simple bronze]

2 pair...

oh look wheel finaly hit

[tawny grove]

green on 21 and nova on 37 but green safekeeps me from ox or no repeats what do i sell for boots xd

[terse gyro]

how tf are you supposed to build around joker stencil, having a really hard time for getting the gold sticker for it

[simple bronze]

LETS GOOO

[tawny grove]

one chip one +m then negats

[spiral cairn]

ankh it

you js need

a lot of them

[spiral cairn]

NICE

[serene forge]

you don't really build around it

unless you get ankh or something immediately

[quartz ember]

you can win a run with 4 jokers so do that with stencil

[quartz ember]

what is baron doing here?

[lucid plank]

Okay this is just funny

[shell current]

Me when I look inside

[lunar zealot]

oh noo my rebate was disabled whatever shall i do

gg

license constell sounds like a really hard xmult combo to feed in midgame

but like

rocket rebate just makes that braindead easy LMAO

beats vv too thankfully lmao

then again i have dcut

[obsidian forge]

Holy shit

[lunar zealot]

find hanged man

wait

ante 1 head

and i have rebate for money

[jagged torrent]

Congrats

[lunar zealot]

am i crazy for thinking

this could actually work

[manic zealot]

that's amazing

I'm only 3 jokers away from ++

[lunar zealot]

i have grimbo

i could play sensibly

i could play consistently like i always do

but you know what

fuck it

not every day you get a bloodstone run

[manic zealot]

this is true

[wind jolt]

It is if you play round 1 seeded bloodstone every day

[junior jasper]

banana

what if it was the Gros Cavendish and it added +15 mult and then X3

banana bunch

[novel rain]

Wish me luck y'all

[junior jasper]

you win yes

if you lose you must be annihilated

[novel rain]

...whoops

[stiff fjord]

director's cut came in clutch

[novel rain]

...nah, just kiddin'

[junior jasper]

🍌

ok

good

see i told you

[novel rain]

Holy

[lunar zealot]

fucking christ this stupid piece of shit bloodstone

this shit makes me wanna rip my own hair out

[hushed mauve]

gambastone

[round fox]

why is it that all my joker skip tags go onto a temporary card

😭

[north spindle]

bloodstone with no synergies is bold

[hushed mauve]

bloodstone no retriggers

[north spindle]

best negative tag

[hushed mauve]

i forgot gifs are banned 💔

[junior jasper]

bro cant oop its sixes

[north spindle]

ok i mean if you are taking it for stickers
if you can carry it to the end still its fine

[lunar zealot]

'his'

[hushed mauve]

99% of negative tag takers quit before they hit blueprint

[lunar zealot]

HEY MAN

I HAD REBATE

I HAD ECON

I FOUND NOTHING

NOTHING I TELL YOU

[junior jasper]

gendering is stupid this is the second time i've done it why cant everyone just be an "it"

[lunar zealot]

NO RED SEALS NO OOPS

[left juniper]

I literally just got here and have no context but; Skill Issue

[lunar zealot]

NO HACKS NO SOCKS

ALL I HAD WERE BLUE SEALS AND A DREAM

AND A POLYCHROME 9 OF HEARTS

[junior jasper]

put the cryptid in the consumables 💔

[left juniper]

they is gender neutral in English. I just always use it because I'm lazy

[junior jasper]

im using "it" because everyone has a beast inside them 🗣️

[subtle loom]

THIS WAS SI INTENSE

[left juniper]

Real

[junior jasper]

especially with a bloodstone no retrigger

[left juniper]

I love shit like this. Good win 😄

[subtle loom]

that was way too lucky

[junior jasper]

stupid beast

[subtle loom]

gs yellow

yellow is easiest cuz money is best

[left juniper]

true true

[north spindle]

im surprised that went the distance

ig hologram is kinda crazy tho

[hushed mauve]

lucky cardmaxxing

[north spindle]

and steel can also put in work if you are fortunate enough to have a bunch of steel cards

[subtle loom]

truth

im so glad i have 2 hanging chad

[north spindle]

lucky cat is fun to scale

[hushed mauve]

i love lucky cat

[north spindle]

it also helps that it scales based off of something you wanted to do anyways

[hushed mauve]

probablu like 3rd favorite xmult card

[hushed mauve]

always chase the 20 dollars

[junior jasper]

lucky card with 2 negative eternal oops all sixes, pareidolia, sock and buskin, lucky cat, and blueprint. a man can dream and pray

[hushed mauve]

the 20 dollars has saved some of my runs

[north spindle]

i mean
its like the whole reason to use lucky cards

[gusty python]

my last 3 jokers left

[subtle loom]

hologram

[junior jasper]

seance is so amazing i love seance on checkered deck

[north spindle]

im pretty sure i got seance on like
my first attempt at running anaglyph lol
along with diet cola

[hushed mauve]

fuck hologram i hate deck bloat

[subtle loom]

truth

[left juniper]

Everyone act shocked the last will be an Uncommon 😮

😱

[gusty python]

im just suprised I never won with sixth sense

actual good card

[north spindle]

i mean i assume the last joker for most people is either an uncommon joker or baron

invis too

[stark karma]

Based based so based

[left juniper]

Nah rares you can literally grab as trash to fill an empty joker slot because there's so few of them

[north spindle]

i mean u gotta actually find them is the thing

like you can go several runs without even seeing baron etc

[left juniper]

Rares are easier to find since the pool of them is so small though

[stark karma]

I’ve been loving seance

[left juniper]

like yeah getting a rare is obviously rarer but there arent many

[manic zealot]

lmao seance is also one of my final 3 rn

[north spindle]

uncommons show up 5x as often in the shop

as rares

[gusty python]

whats ur other 2

[manic zealot]

seltzer and mr bones

[north spindle]

there are 20 rares and 64 uncommons

so you see each individual uncommon more often in the shop

[subtle loom]

explain how oops all six never appeared

my sticker on joker

[hushed mauve]

i forgot bones existe

[subtle loom]

well they do but thats only two time they appearded

[gusty python]

damn both are really good

[subtle loom]

i actually got mr bones gs

[manic zealot]

I'm not too worried about getting those, the really tough ones I got out of the way already

[manic talon]

My last joker was swash and campfire

[hushed mauve]

i never take bones like ever

[manic zealot]

yeah same

[hushed mauve]

campfire is underrated tbh

[manic zealot]

now I constantly take it in the hopes I can carry it to gold

[hushed mauve]

you just need some wicked econ

[manic talon]

Campfire is insanely good

[left juniper]

Campfire on gold stake is adequately rated

[manic zealot]

absolutely

[manic talon]

I got campfire on orange stake, but just never saw it on gold until it was the last joker

[hushed mauve]

there is a better xmult rare joker though...

[subtle loom]

obe

[manic talon]

Its not like i was avoiding campfire

[manic zealot]

or tarot generation, campfire pairs decently with cartomancer and amazingly with vagabond

[left juniper]

The Tribe nods

[gusty python]

just got ancient joker and ran like 20 wild cards to get 2 more jokers last run

[manic zealot]

dude ancient joker with wild cards is some of the best fun I ever had in this game

[subtle loom]

wild actual usage?

[vocal matrix]

Who said black deck was hard? (I was suffering before this)

[hushed mauve]

dusk ancient joker is actually so fun

[left juniper]

I have never said that

[gusty python]

yeah using wild cards actually unheard of 😮

damn 2 legendaries

[subtle loom]

ive alway avoided wild

[vocal matrix]

Literally there's no reason to use them besides ancient joker

[left juniper]

Proof I think Black Deck is fine AND am unaware of what sarcasm is

[manic zealot]

I'm very excited to see how localthunk changes them in the next update

[subtle loom]

and like 3 other joker

[gusty python]

how is he?

[manic zealot]

he hasn't said

just that he intends to buff them somehow

[hushed mauve]

flower pot no

and blackboard i think?

[left juniper]

The last thing we know is that they will be buffed AND at the time he said Lovers applying to 1 card will be unchanged

[proper flame]

It makes flower pot easier but why would you ever use flower pot

[hushed mauve]

i lowkey slept on blackboard

[subtle loom]

does it work with seeing double

[hushed mauve]

i still dislike flower pot

[proper flame]

blackboard is lowkey clutch early game

[manic zealot]

it's my come-in-clutch joker

[hushed mauve]

it should

[manic zealot]

dude you took the words out of my mouth

same brain wave

[hushed mauve]

wild cards have some funky mechanics

[north spindle]

blackboard is like
good all around

x3 is a lot and the condition isn't really that hard a lot of the time

[hushed mauve]

i'll never fall for flower pot propaganda

[proper flame]

Its one of the jokers that is good early game as clutch, bad in the mid game, but goes back to being great again when you have deck fixed because, if you went all in on clubs or spades, its a free x3 mult

[north spindle]

it's good in the mid game too tho

[manic zealot]

I love how it actually improves with a smaller hand size

[subtle loom]

it does i checked siki

[hushed mauve]

if only seeing double wasn't butt

[north spindle]

if you play pairs it's just. extremely easy

[floral mural]

blackboard is unnecessary early but mid and late its one of the simplest xmults to trigger

[left juniper]

I'd rather have common +mult early game than Blackboard xMult honestly. No mult x3 is still poop

[floral mural]

its fine. its a 2x for an easy condition you can trigger with anything above a pair

[left juniper]

Half joker goated early game

[proper flame]

get a few planets in your life

[north spindle]

kind of bizzare that flower pot and blackboard get x3

[manic zealot]

absolutely

[subtle loom]

would you rather have infinite chip but no mult or infinite mult but no mult

[proper flame]

Before I figured out the difference between +mult and xmult I thought half joker was the best joker in the game

[manic zealot]

infiniute muliut but no muiuti

[proper flame]

I now know the difference and still think its the best joker in the game /s

[manic zealot]

sorry had a stroke

[left juniper]

Either I had a stroke reading or you had a stroke writing

[hushed mauve]

i actually beat half of the decks on gs with half joker 3oak builds

i love 3oak\

[subtle loom]

3oak isnt too bad

[gusty python]

what does 3oak mean

[subtle loom]

full house fall off mid to late game

[proper flame]

3 of a kind

[subtle loom]

3 of a kind

[north spindle]

3oak is fine but i feel like its a bit tempremental a lot of the time

[proper flame]

poor scaling sadly

[north spindle]

i feel like straights or pairs usually end up outclassing it

[hushed mauve]

3oak is good enough to beat ante 8 but like good luck otherwise

[proper flame]

though it can benefit from both the duo and the trio, 4oak and 5oak/5flush can benefit from those AND whatever the 4oak one is called

[subtle loom]

and basically little to no synergize with joker

[north spindle]

also a decent amt of the time if your 3oak is consistent you're pretty close to playing 4oak

[hushed mauve]

deck has boned me enough to not play straights unless i get like runner first shop

[north spindle]

and 4oak scaling is crazy

[gusty python]

I dont like running straight builds even tho it scales so well, 3 and 4 of a kind are my most used besides flush yeah yeah ik ik bad

[hushed mauve]

yeah it's lowkey just pair with imo better early game

[subtle loom]

i hate straight

i played with it

[proper flame]

Im a straight build merchant. Its possible that 75% of my wins are with straights

[subtle loom]

and alway die

[floral mural]

3 of a kind is a good hand and has far less of an issue being overshadowed by other hands than full house or flush

[proper flame]

The other 25% are just me getting insane luck early on

[proper flame]

every time I roll a photo/chad I have to resist doing another samey straight build

[stiff fjord]

i love playing straight builds

[subtle loom]

the family

[floral mural]

i love straight builds too

[stiff fjord]

feels so rewarding to pull them off

[floral mural]

theyre fun

[gusty python]

ive just been hurt by not drawing the right card for a straight so many times I really stray away from those builds

[proper flame]

+mult joker - chad - blueprint - photo - eternal egg (For moral support)

the optimal straight build

[acoustic kettle]

2oak best hand

[hushed mauve]

straight builds are fun until you don't hit

or win in 1

[manic zealot]

they're genuinely very fun with a shortcut

[subtle loom]

truth

[manic zealot]

cuz you can turn brain off

[subtle loom]

shortcut make straight much better

[acoustic kettle]

Just play 1oak with baron mime

[subtle loom]

high card

[hushed mauve]

having shortcut and the 4 finger one to just throw random bullshit on the board and have it count as a straight

[proper flame]

4 fingers and shortcut, you will accidentally play a straight when using a hand to discard

[floral mural]

if anything you should play straights when you get an early shortcut because it makes them spammable as hell

with good scaling

[left juniper]

Sneaky way to get an illegal straight flush

[subtle loom]

hi my name is burnt joker

[proper flame]

3 of spades
4 of spades
6 of spades
8 of spades

I see nothing here but a straight flush

[hushed mauve]

what's the one where clubs and spades are the same

smeared

[floral mural]

3 of spades 4 of hearts 6 of spades 8 of spades ace of spades

[left juniper]

Yeah but to add to that you can do 3,4,6 and 9 of spades with an 8 of hearts. That's a straight flush

[subtle loom]

make wild much less useful

[hushed mauve]

3 of clubs 4 of spades 6 of spades 8 of clubs = strush

#yup

[proper flame]

True actually. Doesnt the game logic classify straight flushes as "Contains a flush, and Contains a straight"?

[floral mural]

pretty sure thats a valid straight flush with shortcut and four fingers

[hushed mauve]

negative scoring challenge

[gusty python]

I just picked this up on ante one on checkered deeck

[proper flame]

we need an opposite to smeared joker that combines Spades+Hearts and Clubs+Diamonds

If that happened, then you could have:
Smeared Joker
This Hypothetical Joker
Four Fingers
and Shortcut

And with that, you could play basically any combination of cards and get a straight flush, and then lose the game because you have no +mult or xmult

[hushed mauve]

it's time to hit 0 bloodstone procs on ante 3 and lose

while the rental obliterates your eco

[subtle loom]

checked would go wild

[subtle loom]

heh
my planet IS my mult

[unreal current]

Help

[proper flame]

the humble Flint:

[hushed mauve]

super truth nova

[left juniper]

Still waiting for Prosopagnosia to become a joker so I can counter The Plant (and disable my own photo)

[subtle loom]

but qhat if

i got a the order and the tribe

[hushed mauve]

is tribe the flush one

[left juniper]

Ye

[proper flame]

Credit Card in the Buffoon pack, use it to reroll twice and buy the Gros Michel

[gusty magnet]

uhm

blueprint, dna and hanging chad were all in the same shop

.

[floral mural]

black deck dna sounds like a yikes but looks good to plan around

[subtle loom]

free win?

[gusty magnet]

been trying to get gold stake for so long

im so scared im gonna throw this

im probablyu gona do flush five build

[floral mural]

the issue here is plant

probably wanna level something besides flush five eventually to use a glass number on

[gusty magnet]

true

[floral mural]

so 4 of a kind

or 3

[unreal current]

Wrong. Skip next bling for mega celestial, get flush, Ankh in the spectral next blind shop. Debating on eternal rebate or riff raff

[gusty magnet]

WAIT

THE BLUEPRINT

IS TEMP

I DIDNT EVEN REALIZE

NOO

its fine ill just make a ton of kings

[hearty mulch]

gosh dang it

[gusty magnet]

@floral mural

i have 13 kings rn

should i keep going photochad

[hearty mulch]

Go for it ig

[manic zealot]

I love when riff raff gives me a free polychrome joker just cuz

so goated

[lunar zealot]

any steels?

any red seals?

[gusty magnet]

no sadly

[lunar zealot]

then why go baron here

you're running photochad and that wants luckies and glasses

[gusty magnet]

alright

invis joker

dude

😭

[unreal current]

And I lost it all because of discards on orange stake

[gusty magnet]

this might be the easiest win in a while

[austere heath]

haven't caught up on the update development cycle and all that, has there been any word regarding a release date or progress in general

[junior jasper]

mr thunk!!! kill him!

[unreal current]

Easiest win…. For plant

[austere heath]

photochad my beloved
surely you don't get planted

[gusty magnet]

I JUST WIN

NO PLANT

GOLD STAKE BLACK DECK OVER??

[subtle loom]

yknow its so funny thats everone use the 4x speed multiplier

[manic zealot]

it's too satisfying

we all just collectively understand

[gusty magnet]

ITS OVER

[stiff fjord]

it will be released when it is finished

[subtle loom]

the only reason wed wanna slow down is for timing

[manic zealot]

or to sneak a peek at a card that's turned over by enhancing it after slowing the game down

[austere heath]

I like having my speed a little slower so I can milk the dopamine from the funny noises a little longer

[shell current]

It’s like basically only on the face down card bosses and once in a blue moon on shuffle me jimbos

[manic zealot]

my dopamine receptors are fried so it suits me well

but I'm not so dopamine deprived that I need to mod in even higher speeds

[shell current]

Peak dopamine build is oops! Chad dusk 8-ball cat

[manic zealot]

so much shit generating and screaming at you it's awesome

[vocal matrix]

Should I get Dusk instead of Oops?

[orchid comet]

hello

[orchid comet]

yes same

I'm happy someone else also does the same

[vernal bay]

do the math

[twin turtle]

holy crap faceless gold stake is supposed to be easy

but im struggling

so much

[vocal matrix]

I mean, I can't do the math with bloodstone. It can retrigger only once without the dice

[orchid comet]

get cat /j

[vernal bay]

Not how probability works

[abstract vapor]

To the moon with both seed vouchers 🔥

[orchid comet]

damn

[stoic sky]

Thats the saddest news to get when playing the eternal challange..

Two souls by ante 5 is crazy

[orchid comet]

I heard soul was a spectral card?

I've never seen it in a spectral pack myself or in screenshots both

[abstract vapor]

There's a 1% chance to get it from tarot packs

Probably drop the rebate? Idek

I feel like parking is gonna give more with oops all 6's

I've only found 1 ace red seal 😭

[gloomy swallow]

Ok so I'm currently with this load out rn and what I'm thinking

is that I should get rid of my 6, 7's and 9's

[ember turtle]

i feel like i shouldn't go for 3oak joker

[vernal bay]

How many lucky cards?

[ember turtle]

castle with baseball is like 2.6x score

i don't see myself going for a more situational xmult

[vernal bay]

It's sell baseball easily tbh

[ember turtle]

cat is at 4x

[vernal bay]

Wait I forget

is lucky cat uncommon?

[ember turtle]

yes

and baseball currently gives about 3.3x mult

[vernal bay]

Oh then why even considered the trio

[ember turtle]

yeah that's why i am asking

[lunar zealot]

OH JESUS FUCKING CHRIST

and there's a rental bus in shop

so probably rebate? i just don't like the eternal

but i haven't done an aj run in so longgg

you know what

this isn't optimal

but fuck it

aj

[hardy fable]

gm

[ember turtle]

gm

[sour quail]

let's go gambling

aw dangit

[vernal bay]

Oh no my econ is forever solved

[acoustic kettle]

Bm

[lunar zealot]

lol

[acoustic kettle]

What if aj suit changes every hand

[topaz stirrup]

how does DNA interact with the serpent?

if im going for naneinf specifically. does it act like it does in every other part of the game, or does it really just give more hand size

[abstract vapor]

I can't remember 100% but I believe you keep getting extra hand size after the first hand

Don't quote me on that

[topaz stirrup]

That's what I would think

but it's super nerve racking, because I effectively only have one chance to get this right lol

[abstract vapor]

Well how many cryptids do you have? Or are you doing only burgler

[junior jasper]

yall ever be micheling it or nah

[quartz ember]

it acts like any other portion of the game, i.e. just gives more hand size

(yes you do get to draw more each subseqient hand)

[topaz stirrup]

so, if i have this setup, i couldnt copy more steel kings to get an extra +5 hand size and then do my single discards and hands after that in order to keep those 5 kings in my hand?

[quartz ember]

you could

[topaz stirrup]

oh

[violet bear]

Do it, listen to the voices

[violet bear]

nice

[quartz ember]

but anyways, you need burglar for the naneinf in the end

[topaz stirrup]

you dont know me smh

[terse gyro]

i stg, i can never get a midas mask build going, ended up losing vamp midas mask run at the very end, got super tilted especially since those cards never show in my shops and midas is one of the remain 21 jokers i need for C++

[topaz stirrup]

is this real

smh

[quartz ember]

well yes

ante 25

[topaz stirrup]

who said anything about ante 25

ok heres the sitch

ive got a juggler skip with 3 double tags

is it worth just going for it now or do i absolutely need burgler

[left juniper]

🤔

isn't that +12 handsize?

naneinf is ~45 red seal steel kings in hand. So no that wouldn't be enough without burg because you'd be on (at best) 21 in hand. Even with DNA it's 25 in hand

[topaz stirrup]

hm

[lunar zealot]

i won

[topaz stirrup]

i think at most i could draw 36 kings in hand

[left juniper]

even with serpent it's +12 right? 37 in hand or w/e. Not enough

[lunar zealot]

i forgot to screenshot the run

my aj run went like 10x smoother than my bloodstone run 😭

goes to fucking show LMAOOOOOO

[gusty magnet]

isb loodstone reallyu that bad..

[topaz stirrup]

37/36 yeah

[lunar zealot]

literally one of the worst xmults in the game

[topaz stirrup]

damn so i really have to rely on getting burgler if im gonna naneinf

😭

its already so hard

[lunar zealot]

that or perkeo

[gusty magnet]

are you random seed naneinfing?

[topaz stirrup]

yeah

[spiral cairn]

oh

[violet bear]

Let’s goo

[tardy spade]

ante 1 eternal foil chad 100% right?

[manic talon]

right after i lost the streak the game decides to give me a free win seed, of course they would

[vale shale]

Guys should I play balatro again

[tardy spade]

yes

[acoustic kettle]

No

[junior jasper]

what happens if you get verdant leaf on an eternal challenge

do you jsut

or wait

[acoustic kettle]

Banned

[junior jasper]

damn 💔

[topaz stirrup]

looks like it wasnt to be </3

went too early on a burgler, it happens

should I have kept DNA would have kept going until at least ante 23

but had to end it come ante 22

we high scored with an e220 though

[manic talon]

it just cant show up

[orchid comet]

yes

[hollow halo]

Oh shit

[violet bear]

Nice, free tarot card every blind

[orchid comet]

should blueprint be legendary instead of yorick

[winter pike]

❓

no

[left juniper]

no

[winter pike]

blueprint and brainstorm despite being probably the best jokers in the game shouldnt legendary

[hollow halo]

(Yorick best legendary btw)

Or well

Not all the time

Most consistently useful

But yeah I think the game is a lot better having blueprint and brainstorm as rare jokers

[pale wolf]

they arent

[winter pike]

.

in response to this

[pale wolf]

blueprint isnt the best joker and brainstorm is definitely worse

[winter pike]

o

[winter pike]

one of the best though

[orchid comet]

since it's legendary I got it when I'm on ante 7

[pale wolf]

best jokers in the game already are commons

cavendish, riff raff, rebate

red card, rtb, etc

[orchid comet]

idk if I can discard many cards by the time I beat it

[winter pike]

you can still get yorick to x2 in that time

or x3

[hollow halo]

I do agree that these are the best non blueprint jokers

But blueprint can literally just be another one of these if u get it

[pale wolf]

blueprint is often worse than just any xmult above 2, aka scaling

and costs a lot

[hollow halo]

That makes sense

[orchid comet]

what's rtb

[hollow halo]

Ride the bus

[pale wolf]

ride the bus

[orchid comet]

ok

[pale wolf]

yellow feller

[hollow halo]

Most overhated joker I swear 💔

Although sometimes I like superposition/8ball and people act like they're the worst thing ever

[orchid comet]

the main good thing about blueprint is if you have rebate (was that the one where u discard and get 5$) or some other card like that, you can use bp on rebate then switch it to your xmult when u play ur hand

same with burnt joker

[winter pike]

okay i probably exaggerated how good it is but it's still really good

[acoustic kettle]

Bp f tier

[pale wolf]

yea blueprint is great when its applicable to your build, esp multiple different phases of it

[floral mural]

blueprint is good but not the best is basically it

[pale wolf]

hallucination hologram marble certificate blueprint

[orchid comet]

what's the best though

[manic talon]

start a run with 5 eternal blueprints and see why its a bad joker

[pale wolf]

cavendish or rebate or yorick

[orchid comet]

😭

[orchid comet]

yorick?

[floral mural]

i still remember having burglar brainstorm once and skipping blueprint for a supernova since i was on ante 3 with no scoring lmao

[pale wolf]

legendary

[manic talon]

yorick more like bottom 1 joker

[winter pike]

the best legendary

[orchid comet]

not the one which creates negative consumables?

[hollow halo]

From my experience, blueprint is always a run maker for me

[pale wolf]

nah perkeos good but not as reliably effective

[acoustic kettle]

Perkeler is so overloved

[hollow halo]

But then cavendish is even more of a run maker

[orchid comet]

cavendish is always amazing to have

[hollow halo]

Perkeo is one of those ones that is very dependent on what ur build is, if u have observatory or cryptid then it's broken but otherwise it's like

A better cartomancer

[winter pike]

it can range from golden joker to the best deckfixing in the game

[manic talon]

yorick does nothing but clogs your joker slot

[winter pike]

not my yoricks

[acoustic kettle]

Yorick bulgral synergy

[lament crater]

compared to what the early version of yorick was, yes very

[hollow halo]

Merry andy green joker synergy

[lament crater]

yorick the water synergy

[valid abyss]

i am going to MURDER people who hate chicot

[winter pike]

i HATE the water

[lament crater]

i love chicot

[winter pike]

weird way to spell chigoat

[acoustic kettle]

Chibutt

[valid abyss]

Thats it

[hollow halo]

Banned

[gusty maple]

Bro you gotta be pulling my leg

[winter pike]

public execution for you bud

[hushed thunder]

Guys should i take it? Im new

[hollow halo]

Sell all 5 jokers, polychrome king solo

[acoustic kettle]

Luchador clears chibutt

[hollow halo]

Yeah I would say so

[hushed thunder]

Which one should i sell then?

[hollow halo]

Straight joker

I think

And then move ancient joker to the right of even steven

So that ancient joker multiplies even Stevens buffs

[acoustic kettle]

Nice middle fingers you got there

[valid abyss]

thanks!!

[hollow halo]

O

[acoustic kettle]

Too bad i don't care

[hushed thunder]

Which one is that

[valid abyss]

WHAT

this is an insult to my insults

[hollow halo]

The one that gives u mult for straights

I can't remember the name

[hushed thunder]

But i have lvl 7 straight

[valid abyss]

the third one in your joker roster

[hushed thunder]

It doesnt matter?

[valid abyss]

do you play any straights

[hushed thunder]

Yes

[valid abyss]

don't

[acoustic kettle]

Enough mult from levels already

[valid abyss]

its not good with ancient joker

unless you got straight flushes

for every suit nonetheless

[hushed thunder]

Soooo maybe i sell ancient?

[valid abyss]

nO

[acoustic kettle]

No?

[hushed thunder]

Okay

[valid abyss]

sell straight joker

or whoever the third one is

[hushed thunder]

Now is it good?

[hollow halo]

Yeah 👍

[valid abyss]

put even steven to the left of ancient

[hushed thunder]

Thank you guys

[hollow halo]

It might be a bit late to focus on flushes but when u pick up ancient joker the idea tends to be to just go all in on flushes for whatever suit ancient joker targets

[valid abyss]

just have 5 cards of every suit and ancient joker is basically guaranteed

[willow frost]

iceave the goat for this

[valid abyss]

i guess you could say

i'm the chigoat

[hushed thunder]

So now ill play flushes

Ill try

[hollow halo]

Perchance...

[hushed thunder]

[hollow halo]

I think since straights are so high levelled at this point for this run u could go either way

[acoustic kettle]

Chibutt

[acoustic kettle]

Fuck what rhymes

[valid abyss]

dont make me do it

[hollow halo]

Peak

[acoustic kettle]

Chigut

As in

I will gut him alive

[valid abyss]

i'm gonna chigut you

[orchid comet]

1st run on checkered

[sly bolt]

boo!

[acoustic kettle]

Chirut

[lament crater]

AHH

[acoustic kettle]

What am i even saying rn

[valid abyss]

apologies mods for the sea of animations

[acoustic kettle]

Chirot

[sly bolt]

hello chat I'm pretty new to the game, how do I unlock the scribbled joker?

[acoustic kettle]

He can rot in hell

[lament crater]

the resting sleeper scared me, but chicot would have prevented that, that is how goated he is

[orchid comet]

woah

help what do I do with all this luck

[valid abyss]

you play a royal flush !!!!!!!!!!!!

definitely not the opposite

[sly bolt]

okay...?

[lament crater]

you discard 5oak

[acoustic kettle]

Sell 10 blueprint

[tardy spade]

you discard a royal flush !!!!!!!!!!!!

[lament crater]

flush five actually

mb

[tardy spade]

definitely not the opposite

[valid abyss]

sell 30 legendary jokers

in one run