🕹・game-discussion

[signal frigate]

Yeah that happens

My score there reached three E's

Like eee340

And then I got a completely new symbol and it fuckin crashed

[frank light]

yeah ive pretty much done that at this point

its just absurd

[signal frigate]

I recommend Jen's Almanac

It's an extension to Cryptid

And it's even more insane

[frank light]

i dont think my pc will appreciate that

[signal frigate]

It runs surprisingly well

The game is the one that won't be able to handle it

But your PC is fine, it's designed to calculate numbers

[ocean palm]

Hi

[orchid comet]

hello

[ocean palm]

Bruh

[grand peak]

Guys hear me out
Dna + trading card + canio + hologram + blueprint/brainstom

[ocean palm]

Not bad

[signal frigate]

I'd honestly just ditch the dna

But if you want Hologram in

I guess it's not a bad choice

[grand peak]

The only thing you would need is good + mult but you could easily get with negatives/antimatter/black deck

Or planets

[signal frigate]

You don't need a dedicated joker for one

Eventually, your joker scoring xmults goes so high, +mult don't matter

[lunar zealot]

Oh wow gg thanks wheel

i have cavendish ready too

[lavish gazelle]

That's only if you got your planet scaling high enough

[lunar zealot]

SPEAK OF THE DEVIL AND SHE SHALL ANSWER?????

LITERALLY ONE FUCKING REROLL

[lavish gazelle]

The banan is the devil?

Lore development

[lunar zealot]

Oh fuck i win too fast now

even if i put bus all the way left

FUUUUCK

[verbal wren]

First soul on second profile what will it be?

[lunar zealot]

HUH?

I still skip it but like LMAOOO

[verbal wren]

I would kill banana

[violet bear]

Holy joker lineup

[lunar zealot]

The question is do i kill banana for the sticker or keep banana for the win

[violet bear]

Chip scaling mult scaling 2 strong xmult scaling and a flat x3

[lunar zealot]

I kinda wanna keep banana

mainly just as a textbook 'this is how you play obelisk' run

that i can show

[violet bear]

Campfire without a free jonkler slot feels suspicious but i think obelisk will carry the win regardless

[signal frigate]

You have the Obelisk online??

[lunar zealot]

yeah lol

what did you think

[signal frigate]

Then it's safe to take yeah

[lunar zealot]

i've played 18 pairs

[signal frigate]

That it was about to run out of hands

[violet bear]

Also bus on the back to scale obby more

justright

[lunar zealot]

i've BEEN doin that

[violet bear]

Peak

[lunar zealot]

balatro players when they cant read

[violet bear]

I can in fact not read as a player of several card games

[stiff fjord]

skull servant mentioned

[eternal flame]

BANA

[violet bear]

True and real

[lunar zealot]

Jesus fucking christ this seed is insane

[violet bear]

What else did you find

[lunar zealot]

hologram dna blackboard baseball card obelisk cavendish

[violet bear]

Holy

[eternal flame]

yesterday I got a seed with 3 nat negs and a legendary

it was also an insane seed

[violet bear]

About a week ago i had a brainstorm greenbo burglar run with infinite blue seals

[orchid comet]

what does sixth sense + dna do

[tawny grove]

man

[floral mural]

copy the 6 and destroy the original

[orchid comet]

save

[floral mural]

open that buffoon

[west hemlock]

Do I take this half joker holo?

[orchid comet]

I see

[willow frost]

destroys the 6 and copies your dumbass

[tawny grove]

credit pls

[floral mural]

or just a good other joker

not even credit card

[tawny grove]

gave me a damn fibonacci

[floral mural]

fibs good

good mult you could use later too

[west hemlock]

Fibonacci is awesome

[lunar zealot]

Just a casual x198 mult chat

[floral mural]

play 2 pairs or something for with one pair being a fib rank and you probably beat ante 2 with it alone

[west hemlock]

Someone tell me 😭

[lunar zealot]

seed if yall want it

[violet bear]

For a moment i thought that was obelisk and almost shat myself at the .5

[lunar zealot]

Actually insane how my obelisk has lower xmult than my constell

[violet bear]

Reading moment #2

[lunar zealot]

because i was winning too fucking fast

[violet bear]

Classic

[lunar zealot]

I stopped scaling my runner 😭

+150 and that's it lmao

[violet bear]

Idt you need it with bus chad fib

[violet bear]

Suffering from success

[west hemlock]

Second holo half joker this run

What is it tryna tell me

[lunar zealot]

probably chad and fibo go here for an econ and another xmult

just so you can win consistently and not die to like water

[manic talon]

obelisk... bad???

[west hemlock]

I’ve only been picking up one x mult every run tbh

I’ve never thought to pick up two 😭

[manic talon]

ideally you have like, 3

[violet bear]

Dream scenario to have 3

[west hemlock]

Uhhhh

Alright what am I selling

[pliant jewel]

hologram trust

[west hemlock]

My only x mult rn??

[pliant jewel]

yes that's totally a good idea

[west hemlock]

What about blue joker

[manic talon]

do you have any planet cards

[pliant jewel]

no blue joker is actually s tier

[west hemlock]

Stop trolling 😭✌️

[terse vale]

do you have any other chips

[west hemlock]

Pair two pair and 3oak all at level 2

[lunar zealot]

You need more than one every run

[west hemlock]

But that’s it

[lunar zealot]

no exceptions

[manic talon]

kill the fib

[lunar zealot]

otherwise you die to violet vessel

[manic talon]

wait

[pliant jewel]

okay jokes aside depending on how high your bus is you can probably kill fib

[lunar zealot]

Play every run as if you will always get violet vessel

[manic talon]

do you have any gold seals or lucky to justify chad

[west hemlock]

I have like I think 3-4 luckies

[manic talon]

yea kill the fib

how big is your bus again?

[west hemlock]

It’s yorick

Fuck

[manic talon]

EWWWWWWWWW

[orchid comet]

it can fit about 20 kids

[manic talon]

10 dollars

[winter pike]

the best one

[west hemlock]

9

[eternal flame]

yo rick is fine

[lunar zealot]

9??????

[orchid comet]

what did yorick do I forgot

[lunar zealot]

9?????????

[manic talon]

NINE???

[lunar zealot]

9?????????????

[pliant jewel]

you can sometimes get away with glass

[winter pike]

x1 every 23 discards

[west hemlock]

Triboulet (just cause it’s casual doesn’t mean it’s wrong)

[manic talon]

oh my god i fucked up

[eternal flame]

what is so insane about 9

[west hemlock]

It’s eternal you guys smh

[lunar zealot]

OH MY GOD BRUH

[manic talon]

whoops

[west hemlock]

READ

[pliant jewel]

.

[manic talon]

yea i expected to be higher than NINE

[eternal flame]

oh wait ante 4 rtb with 9 mult is wild

[pliant jewel]

how is your bus at 9

[manic talon]

i know its eternal

[winter pike]

even more reason it should be higher

[terse vale]

dude

[winter pike]

because it ifs eternal you should be using it

[west hemlock]

I don’t even remember why my bus is at 9 tbh

[eternal flame]

I guess someone didn't ride the bus!

[west hemlock]

Wtv

[pliant jewel]

bro's bus isn't even legal yet

[terse vale]

THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE 👀 TO KNOW

[shell dagger]

You over scored

[lunar zealot]

Now play pairs

Play lots of pairs big boy

bring your bus up

[west hemlock]

Again it’s eternal I wasn’t just not gonna take a legendary joker

[west hemlock]

Do I take the holo half joker now lol

[shell dagger]

No

[pliant jewel]

maybe actually

[lunar zealot]

To survive??

[manic talon]

honestly you probably need to ditch chad for holo half now, whats the ante 4 scaling on blue

[lunar zealot]

how much are you scoring without fibo

[shell dagger]

The whole reason bus is good is that it can be your only source of mult

[pliant jewel]

you might be at risk of dying

[lunar zealot]

It's pre purple

[lunar zealot]

Bus is at +9

[shell dagger]

Did they sell fib?

[lunar zealot]

Yes bc vayn is dumb

[west hemlock]

It’ll only be the 500th time I’ve died to blue stake and it’s 4:37 AM so

[lunar zealot]

yeah this is all her fault

[west hemlock]

Bleh

[lunar zealot]

I played no part in this

[manic talon]

im sorry i expected bus to be GOOD

[zinc karma]

Was golden needle supposed to be difficult?

[lunar zealot]

IT'S YOUR FAULT NOT MINE

[zinc karma]

(literally first try)

[pliant jewel]

yep we totally did not attempt to provide advice with insufficient information

everything they did is their fault

[manic talon]

ante 4 is like 8K i think we'll still be fine without the holo half

[lunar zealot]

I mean

+9 mult isn't +0 mult

[manic talon]

well depends on how far they are

[lunar zealot]

If you needed to you could buy half and then never trigger it

so you only trigger the holo

so you can still scale your bus

[manic talon]

take the half holo anyway it wont hurt

[pliant jewel]

also try to pay attention to what cards you're playing

[lunar zealot]

there lived a certain man

from russia long ago

[pliant jewel]

the amount of times i brainfarted and played face cards with the bus is insane

[manic talon]

you took the half joker right?

[west hemlock]

Yea but I got screwed by the mouth so

Dw about it I’m never gonna get past blue stake

[pliant jewel]

how did you get screwed by the mouth

did you... try to play five card hands or something

[west hemlock]

Nah I played two pair and ran out of discards

Lmao

[pliant jewel]

...why are you playing two pair with half joker...

[west hemlock]

IDK OK

[zinc karma]

Does anyone have tips for cruelty? Im fearing it more than jokerless

[zealous lynx]

didnt know you can get blueprint without showman! what a treat

[manic talon]

its fine now you know what to do if you see it again

[violet bear]

Way too blue joker #4

[west hemlock]

Sometimes I go all the way to the last round other times I play the game like a complete toddler 💔

[manic talon]

ckassic foil astronomer

[lunar zealot]

We joke but you actually can

[zealous lynx]

organism

[lunar zealot]

Is it crazy to say rip foil baron

[zealous lynx]

wdym?

[winter pike]

as in sell it

[zealous lynx]

oh defo not

my deck is 90% fixed with gold red seals

most of my econ comes from mime anyways

[violet bear]

Not at all no

[junior jasper]

am i a noob or is selling reserved parking not the play

[terse vale]

more good ecto hits I guess

[violet bear]

Same scoring but an extra round of mime for money

[terse vale]

at first I was confused why you wouldn’t sell the normal baron

[lunar zealot]

Defo not

[left juniper]

Not a noob. You should sell one of the Barons

[lunar zealot]

selling foil baron is probably optimal

Then reserved can go for like another blueprint

find antimatter and get burglar and retcon and you're cruising

[zealous lynx]

oops

[lunar zealot]

how many copies do you need again

[zealous lynx]

the stars are aligning

[zealous lynx]

its on ghost

im just doing this for funsies

[lunar zealot]

Oh rip

[violet bear]

You’re def right

[zinc karma]

?

[violet bear]

Nice

[left juniper]

Oh then choose whatever 🫡 have fun

[violet bear]

Not me no i don’t really play challenges

[winter pike]

just get perkeo

[zealous lynx]

one could imagine 😔

[violet bear]

You’d need 4 of bp/brainstorm on plasma. On ghost you need perkeo for cryptid to naneinf

[winter pike]

one of us doesnt have to imagine

[left juniper]

Is it me?

[winter pike]

no

[left juniper]

oh

[winter pike]

maybe idk

[lunar zealot]

Rip

[violet bear]

Yeah its very funky

Then you need to find a burglar and serpent to get a trillion handsize

[pale wolf]

KILL the barone

[left juniper]

brb taking notes

[pale wolf]

woops

[violet bear]

Too late 😔

[left juniper]

Just simply get... one sec

[shell dagger]

7 blueprints should do it on ghost

[left juniper]

exactly

well if you get 90ish cards in hand you can do it with 4 copies still right. ezpz

[zealous lynx]

is it even worth picking up mime?

[left juniper]

Just simply get 160 cards in hand to be safe

[winter pike]

6 does it

[shell dagger]

Yeah but you aren’t getting 90 cards in hand without perkeo if you have 4 copies, so more copies is easier

[violet bear]

Don’t remember the exact number. I know that a burglar copied 4 times + discards to farm handsize do it on plasma

[lunar zealot]

Ghost deck more like poop deck

Hehehehehehehehehhehehehehe

[shell dagger]

And more copies lets you have more cards in hand

[left juniper]

Not really but it's fun

[left juniper]

ROFLMAO

[shell dagger]

Burglar + discards

[violet bear]

I forgor

Burglar

Just burglar

[winter pike]

6 is enough with burger with antimatter and three ectos

i think

[shell dagger]

Lemme think

[winter pike]

wait i might have done my maths wrong

[left juniper]

Nat negative invis will make your life easier btw

[violet bear]

Holy

[fading dome]

man seeing double and smeared joker just make no sense at all when combined together

[violet bear]

8/7 time

[winter pike]

6 blueprints/brainstorms is enough on ghost deck if you have both grabber and nacho tong and paintbrush and antimatter and take three ectos

[fading dome]

damn okay

[shell dagger]

6 blueprints means +21 hands turns into +50 hand size for 53 kings held in hand, 6 blueprints means each king does 30 triggers, 1590 triggers isn’t enough

[left juniper]

Nah this screenshot is old. I only ended up with 7/6 jokers because I never found an ecto lol

[winter pike]

yeah 7 is definitely enough but it's possible with 6

[violet bear]

Each burger hand is +3 handsize, so like… (5 + 5-6) x9

[shell dagger]

You’re 150 triggers off, you’d need a monumental high card level

[violet bear]

In serpent

[shell dagger]

Or you can’t take heiroglyph

[pseudo forum]

Found back to back soul

[winter pike]

plus two because you have to play a card

[violet bear]

Ye oops

[pseudo forum]

Is it bait?

[left juniper]

Wait good point. How does it work? Can I do 2 Spades?

[violet bear]

Uhhh

No that’s completely fucked then

[winter pike]

it's possible with paintbrush palette grabber nacho tong and cryptid to increase handsize

[deep rapids]

gonna be yorick trust

[winter pike]

yes

[shell dagger]

True I guess you could get 3 cryptid up top with a lucky neg showman

[fading dome]

It's ass. Playing a single black suited high card can activate seeing double. Which is completely in contention with wild+seeing double (doesn't activate) or smeared+flowerpot (needs at least 4 cards)

[pale wolf]

WHAT?

[shell dagger]

I wonder if black deck naneinf would be easier for ghost deck no perkeo

[left juniper]

That's actually shocking considering the wording of it 😮 The wording implies you need at least TWO cards. Just like how Flower Pot only works with at least four

[pseudo forum]

Damned if i do damned if i dont

[shell dagger]

Scrub the overstock BU video, it’s only a perishable smeared so shouldn’t take too long to find the interaction

[winter pike]

far harder to start the run but yeah probably

[pale wolf]

I don't understand the question

[fading dome]

Yeah it's so inconsistent

[pseudo forum]

Its trib

Lets go!!

[pale wolf]

It's not even an implication, it's explicit

[pseudo forum]

Youve got to be kidding me 🌱

[fading dome]

Here's a direct video from almost 2(!) years ago https://www.reddit.com/r/balatro/comments/1bk6ia4/hidden_smeared_jokerseeing_double_interaction/

[willow frost]

i guess technically it never says two but the wording almost exactly implies it should be two

[pale wolf]

does this kind of make smeared viable

[left juniper]

Ewww that feels dirty to see

[fading dome]

smeared raises 1 tier in the tierlist

[left juniper]

Smeared in D now!

[pseudo forum]

Smeared underrated with ancient

[fading dome]

probably be fine with chad, justice and canio no?

[pale wolf]

wild+seeing double not activating on a single black card is what really makes this break yea

I can sort of see the logic behind smeared double

[pseudo forum]

I got canio like 1 round ago, crazy seed

I think glass will save me tho

[fading dome]

ah

[left juniper]

Wait my own clickbait with smeared 👀 C tier for sure now don't forget this hot double synergy

[fading dome]

glass might be enough yeah

[fading dome]

I can see the logic but it's not being consistently applied across all interactions

[left juniper]

I can't see the logic tbh

[zealous lynx]

this run is amazing

[pale wolf]

you're playing a spade card, so thats a non-club, and then smeared covers 1 missing suit requirement for the clubs

[left juniper]

X2 Mult if played hand has a scoring Club card and a scoring card of any other suit
It specifically states a scoring Club Card AND a scoring card of any other suit

The wording implies 2 cards

[pale wolf]

I'm not sure it does

I am in a group of 1 that has a worn shirt AND a worn pants

they don't have to be on different people

[fading dome]

you're arguing that "a scoring card and a scoring card" -> "a single scoring card"? haha

[pale wolf]

it has both a scoring club card, and a scoring non-club card

they just happen to be the same one

because the card has multiple suits

[left juniper]

I get your point BUT Flower Pot says X3 Mult if poker hand contains a Diamond card, Club card, Heart card, and Spade card

And it only works with 4 cards

So either Flower Pot is broken or Seeing Double is broken

[fading dome]

arguably different with "scoring card of X suit" vs "poker hand contains"

[pale wolf]

yeah, by this logic you should be able to activate flower pot with three cards if one of them is a wild, if smeared/wild/otherwise multisuited cards only fill 1 extra requirement

but you cant i assume

[left juniper]

Correct

[fading dome]

smeared and wild are handled different regardless

because reasons

[left juniper]

Got any other quirks while we're here

[pale wolf]

that's another thing... technically poker hand is the cards that fulfill the determination, but then splash lets cards not in the poker hand activate flower pot

[left juniper]

Yeah I think Flower Pot is missing the word scoring honestly

[fading dome]

that's because it can handle debuffed cards (EXCEPT WHEN THEY'RE WILD)

[pale wolf]

i dwimking oot beer

[turbid reef]

Got my first Naneinf

[pale wolf]

gratis

[pale wolf]

using what?

[turbid reef]

Thanks

[turbid reef]

Perkeo baron mime

[pale wolf]

oh perkeo is gone

okey

[left juniper]

The Perkeo was literally invisible

[fading dome]

oh I was wondering too lol

[pale wolf]

i was like "you juggle tagged on PLASMA?”

[turbid reef]

Didn’t get any ecto throughout the game. Had to sell him once I found baron in shop

[fading dome]

ahhh

nice

[left juniper]

That's a whacky set up. Congrats

[fading dome]

Loyalty card's visible countdown doesn't change when playing a "not allowed" hand on those boss blinds; the internal countdown does however

[pale wolf]

has anybody done a jokerless naneinf (as in selling all your jokers before playing the naneinf hand)

[fading dome]

(at least I think that's the order)

[left juniper]

I don't like that...

[winter pike]

i just saw someone send that a bit ago, ill try and find it

[turbid reef]

How much hand size do you need for that?

[left juniper]

With Shortcut, Pareidolia and Four Fingers can I get a Royal Flush with A, 3, 5, and 7? 🤔

[fading dome]

pretty sure pareidolia doesn't influence the royal flush determination

[winter pike]

#🎙・server-chat message

[left juniper]

I wish Thunk Chat were still here so I could search the archives

[fading dome]

I miss thunk chat

[left juniper]

Because he mentioned there how exactly a royal flush was coded I can't remember exactly

[turbid reef]

Found this

[left juniper]

I do like the quirk of how with Four Fingers you can get a Straight Flush by playing 5 cards that separately contain a Straight and a Flush lol

[fading dome]

I can just tell you - it's when a straight flush's cards all have a rank of 10 or higher

[oblique prism]

chat pls what i need to do? should i sell something to buy smile card?

[pale wolf]

lmfao and it was sent in server chat

poor soul

[oblique prism]

which one is more powerful

[winter pike]

[pale wolf]

you can kill swash yea

[left juniper]

Aww so no Shortcut sillyness

[pale wolf]

Wait no

You kill the two-pair Joker what am I thinking

[left juniper]

Might be common knowledge though. I remember seeing a pic here once showing it

[turbid reef]

150 cryptid damn. Was expecting much more

Oh it’s 200

[pale wolf]

pretty common knowledge id say

[shell dagger]

Someone has, saw it in a BU comment

[pale wolf]

someone just linked a picture to it

[shell dagger]

Oop

[winter pike]

now do it without plasma

[pale wolf]

#🎙・server-chat message

[shell dagger]

Ah that’s another one

This was when he did the high score run pre bean bug

[pale wolf]

four fingers also lets you double one of the ranks in a straight

itll be a straight that contains a pair

[glass kelp]

Has anyone ever tried making a deck with the highest amount of unique cards they can?

[left juniper]

Another thing I remember someone saying which I've never been able to test. On slow game speed can you copy Marble to get an extra stone when you select blind then quickly swap to Certificate to get an extra seal 🤔

[pale wolf]

true

[shell dagger]

Probably not directly

But some certificate runs end up like that

[lunar zealot]

Copying dagger should make blueprint eat dagger

[left juniper]

I don't remember the order but the wording of the jokers implies Marble is probably first

[pale wolf]

for some reason I was thinking only unique cards, and I was like that seems nearly impossible to pull off

[glass kelp]

Copy certificates

[shell dagger]

Marble is first yeah

It adds to deck not hand

[left juniper]

tyty

[left juniper]

Reading? I'll stick to Balatro thanks

[shell dagger]

Idk how to read

[fading dome]

we're balatro players we don't read

[winter pike]

i think theres 7300 possible cards

unless i forgot an enhancement

[shell dagger]

Although if I didn’t know how to read, why would I comment on that particular image 🤔

[lunar zealot]

Do we count all different permutations

[winter pike]

bonus mult lucky steel gold and glass

[left juniper]

You recognise the shape of letters and words

[lunar zealot]

foil lucky blue seal 7 of hearts?

[winter pike]

stone cards i counted all the same

[lunar zealot]

if so then there are like billions

minimum

[fading dome]

I agree with 7300 yeah

[glass kelp]

Do you count different hidden values in stone cards?

[lunar zealot]

Idk

[winter pike]

i didnt, no

[glass kelp]

I guess hiker just makes infinite

[winter pike]

i didnt count that either

[shell dagger]

Would a wild spade be a different card to a wild heart?

[winter pike]

yes

oh wild

[left juniper]

I must have missed one because I got 3745

[winter pike]

i forgot about an enhancement

8340

[shell dagger]

7 non stone enhancements

[pale wolf]

52×5×4×6 + 1×5×4?

[fading dome]

I did 52*5*7*4 + 1*5*4 = 7300

[glass kelp]

I guess the limit is still like naneinf or something

[winter pike]

52 cards * 8 enhancements (including none) * 5 seals (including none) * 4 editions (including none) + 1 stone card * 5 seals (including none) * 4 editions (including none)

[pale wolf]

whats the 7

[fading dome]

oh shit I forgot about no enhancement

[pale wolf]

yea

[fading dome]

and the 5 for editions doesn't make sense lol

[left juniper]

I don't believe in none

[shell dagger]

What about the different card skins

[left juniper]

Wouldn't hiker make the point moot?

[shell dagger]

Yeah

[lunar zealot]

And deck cardbacks

[shell dagger]

High contrast vs none

[pale wolf]

oh shit guys I just thought of something

there's also pillar status

[left juniper]

We don't do that around these parts

[shell dagger]

me every few months

[winter pike]

how many of those are there?

[shell dagger]

I think 4 per suit? Idk

[pale wolf]

I think there's varying amounts for different suits but I don't know

[winter pike]

i dont think so

ill just open the game

[fading dome]

6 custom skins for each, 1 default skin

[winter pike]

ill trust that

[fading dome]

I wouldn't

I just did the math on the unique cards wrong twice

[pale wolf]

ur right

[zealous lynx]

is this order optimal?

[pale wolf]

its 7 skins per face suit including default

[winter pike]

i got 40340

[pale wolf]

I wouldn't call the different skins unique cards anyways though

[shell dagger]

Yes

[left juniper]

@fading dome Actually you reminded me. Face cards have weird interactions right? I RECALL (and might be wrong) it's impossible to play a Royal Flush against The Plant

[pale wolf]

You definitely can

Card debuff status doesn't have anything to do with hand determination

[fading dome]

that doesn't sound right 🤔

[pale wolf]

except for wilds and smeared and stuff

[left juniper]

I'd say prove me wrong but I gotta find my own proof

[fading dome]

wild/smeared and debuffed could prevent royal flushes though yeah

[pale wolf]

wild being able to PREVENT a royal flush is ridiculous

this game needs to be torn down and rebranded viva pinata

[fading dome]

like an off-suit debuffed wild wouldn't work

[left juniper]

Gimme a sec this is a lot of searching. It also may have required thunk chat

[fading dome]

Thunk talked about changing the definition of royal flush to include shortcut, pareidolia etc. That's what you might be thinking of

[left juniper]

Thanks for the find!

[pale wolf]

lets say ur on The Head, and are trying to play AKQJ10 of hearts, but the 10 is wild
even though theyre all debuffed, the wild 10 ends up being suitless and its just a straight instead of a straight flush?

[left juniper]

There was some quirk about face cards I can't quite recall but it has been a while. This is still good to know

[royal bobcat]

[fading dome]

buh

[manic talon]

Ante 1 plant would be kinda gas

[fading dome]

lol

[fading dome]

did you manage get a new pb in gold streak btw?

[manic talon]

Wtf how did that old message suddenly got out of retry hell

[left juniper]

LOL I was way off my shitty memory

[violet bear]

Off-suit yeah, if its a wild 10 of hearts its still a royal i believe

Or something like that

[left juniper]

The argument was Faceless not triggering on debuffed face cards. Which implies face is an enhancement of sorts and that it was unfair

[pale wolf]

I was under the impression that on suit bosses, wild cards become completely suitless

[left juniper]

Literally nothing to do with a royal flush my bad

[manic talon]

Still going strong

[fading dome]

No they generally revert to their base suit. Generally.

[violet bear]

I thought they retained their og suit

[pale wolf]

but not for blackboard?

is it just a blackboard thing

[dense wraith]

just had familiar snipe a jack and not give any back on a hit the road run lmao

[left juniper]

And the discussion was about how Rebate doesn't trigger on ranks which is maybe fair. But why does a face card stop being a face card?

[manic talon]

It still has its inherent suit, the wild cards being debuffed and not getting counted as any suit is a bug

[fading dome]

For blackboard the debuffed wild reverts to the base suit

at least that's what happened last time I tested it iirc

[pale wolf]

okay I'm definitely getting conflicting information

[manic talon]

Oh thank god its only for flower pot then

[manic talon]

For flower pot a debuffed wild card doesnt count as any suit, for some reason

[fading dome]

Well flower pot is an inconsistent mf and doesn't care for the base suit of debuffed wilds

[manic talon]

For bboard it works as intended

[pale wolf]

this is why suits should be removed from the game

[violet bear]

TRUE

[manic talon]

All suits should be hearts actually

[violet bear]

Just play with 52 stones

[fading dome]

hmm yeah that's rough

[fading dome]

hit the road runs aren't real anyway

[manic talon]

I think said something about this a while ago, he kinda agrees and talks about changing the wording of faceless into something like "if 3 face cards are discarded, it earns 5 dollars" making it the face cards that "give" the money, so it not working when it gets debuffed makes more sense

[fading dome]

I'd love for there to be completely consistent phrasing and wording in balatro

dont think it'll happen though

[violet bear]

Wish this was a thing for any card game honestly

But its a myth 😔

As far as i know anyway

[royal bobcat]

Catgirl deck: only 3 of hearts

[fading dome]

truth

[pale wolf]

The update got delayed so that thunk could rewrite the entire game in Latin with zero ambiguity

[royal bobcat]

What if the people of Pompeii want to play Balatro? Have you thought of that?

[fading dome]

if there is one thing I learned during my Latin classes it's that it's ambiguous as all hell

[violet bear]

Better make it so it runs on templeOS natively then

[manic talon]

I cant find the message Maybe its on chill chat so its fucking gone

[pale wolf]

do you think the channel still exists and is just archived

[fading dome]

yeah

[royal bobcat]

Idk why chill chat was removed completely. Just archive it and block people from talking

[violet bear]

As an italian speaker i can confirm that latin is full of bullshit that is inherited in italian an awful lot

[fading dome]

chill chat read-only when

[royal bobcat]

^

Chill chat made me want not to ragebait

[pale wolf]

I think it's explicitly so that people don't keep running back to his off the cuff Discord messages for balatro Canon

[royal bobcat]

Now that it's gone nothing stops me :(

[violet bear]

Does this imply balatro has lore

[fading dome]

lmfao that'd be so good if that was the reason

[pale wolf]

it 100% does

like Jen Joker being an electrical engineer from Pennsylvania or some shit

[violet bear]

Does it stop at the origin of jonklers and their art or is there more

[fading dome]

that was on X

[violet bear]

Holy shit

[lament crater]

balatrito.

[fading dome]

The real reason I added another letter to the phoenician alphabet (flint) is because I had to make the boss blind page a nice rectangle
-Thunk, #🍌・thunk-chat message

[violet bear]

Based thunk

[pale wolf]

also likely why chaos theory got nixed although imagine a world where flower pot didn't exist instead

[left juniper]

That link goes to somewhere secret 👀 gimme

[dire sapphire]

flower pot is an amazing joker right!!!!!

[left juniper]

I asked Thunk about how he decided the order of Jokers in the collection and his answer was Vibes lol

[fading dome]

A man can dream

oh yeah the joker collection is somewhat ordered, in some places

[violet bear]

Imagine a world where debuffed wilds for pot was a schrodinger’s situation

[pale wolf]

well like sometimes it would work and sometimes it doesn't

[violet bear]

Yeah

[pale wolf]

That sounds very fun /s

[left juniper]

Nopelatro spotted

[violet bear]

[fading dome]

I love chance-based jokers

I'd make a whole mod out of it if I could

[pale wolf]

we know

[left juniper]

I need to try so hard to treat nopelatro like Jokerless 😩 just need econ

[violet bear]

Better turn oa6 into a chance based as well, make it a 1 in 2 to self debuff for a round

[fading dome]

that's evil man smh

[royal bobcat]

Crooked penny: on hand, 50% chance to double ever joker's value 50% chance to debuff all joker

If u rly want random

There u have it

[violet bear]

Wait until you find out about the deranged scenario in which you have 2 oa6 and they desync and debuff in deranged ways

A world in which rebate and idol also pick cards like ancient

[pale wolf]

You mean the other way around right

RIGHT

[violet bear]

No

I did not stutter

[pale wolf]

I mean honestly that might be the Nerf rebate gets

[violet bear]

There’s a chance

And aj doesn’t really need that buff imo

But i could see it for consistency’s sake

[pale wolf]

what buff

[violet bear]

Aj checking the suit from your deck over picking it randomly through all 4

[pale wolf]

oh we're swapping them now

Castle AJ

[violet bear]

Tha’d be hilarious

[rancid widget]

do i have place for hallucination

[fading dome]

rebate could definitely use that nerf actually

[manic talon]

Aj picking the deck would make it a free win on checkered, honestly even now its already is if you found it in ante 7/8

[manic talon]

Yea, sell yorick

[winter pike]

as much as i love yorick, i would agree

[pale wolf]

seems reasonable, and then it's not just a better version of faceless

[violet bear]

Yeah aj doesn’t need the buff

[zinc karma]

Should i give up on rebate here?

[left juniper]

Rebate needs a nerf. I've said this many times but Rebate being so OP makes other econ jokers look crap in comparison

[fading dome]

satellite my beloved

[left juniper]

Even though other econ jokers are all good. Rebate is just too strong

[pale wolf]

Don't worry, it's getting buffed next update

[left juniper]

No but... you see... I... but... nerf

[pale wolf]

Blue steak rework means you're going to get 50% more discards

maybe

[left juniper]

🥩

[zinc karma]

?

[winter pike]

thank god, im glad localthunk is buffing some of the most underwhelming jokers in the game such as rebate

[left juniper]

lemme see

[zinc karma]

What

[pale wolf]

why exactly is it your beloved

[left juniper]

I needed to review the situation. You have good money so you can probably give up on rebate at this point

[manic talon]

It needs a nerf, make it 6 dollars

[pale wolf]

$8 simply isn't enough

[stark karma]

Wasn’t it 3 dollars before?

[sour quail]

bro im doing gold stickers and NOW is the run where I find a fucking perkeo 😭

[pale wolf]

terrible

maybe you can full skip

[manic talon]

Cant even sell the madness lmao

[fading dome]

probably? hard to judge ngl

[zinc karma]

Oh.

[left juniper]

I literally have no memory of a challenge that had 3 joker slots

[sour quail]

im already getting jack shit spaceman procs

[fading dome]

oh interesting you kept jolly

[zinc karma]

I knew it, but i wasnt prepared for a duo

[fading dome]

It used to be yeah

[sour quail]

mfw

[zinc karma]

And now idk if its worth it to get duo instead of buskin

[stark karma]

The moment when you realize faceless and rebate give you the same amount of money lol

[left juniper]

Rebate OP

[floral mural]

with 3 discards 3 dollars per rank would be fine

[zinc karma]

Good news: it is

[floral mural]

like itd still be good but be less consistent

which is fine

[manic talon]

3 dollars per discard right now is already fine

[stray barn]

YESSSSSSSSSS

ANTE 2 CANIO

[pale wolf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1387860177939726448/1419781799957106708/IMG_5011.png?ex=6901cf97&is=69007e17&hm=9d52241c80d4ad85915a5090da354fabd7d586f8d92eb8a91d224a11cde5f434&

[fading dome]

I mean thunk buffed it for a reason. And I didnt think rebate was good at $3 for ante 8, though that might've been a skill issue

[manic talon]

this was how my old 33 streak ended

[pale wolf]

I mean it's 2x5x5 vs 3x3x5

[stray barn]

FB4X4RGS

guys i lost

..

[pale wolf]

wtf

[manic talon]

even then he mustve realized that rebate and faceless gives the same amount of money now but rebate can get a way higher ceiling, honestly even higher floor

[gusty magnet]

i think its been close to over half a year now that ive been trying to get orange stake on black deck

fucking finally

[fading dome]

Yeah the buff was too much

[pale wolf]

faceless should be 2 faces and you can trigger it multiple times per discard

[winter pike]

yorick my boy

whats he at

[gusty magnet]

he was at 6x when i won

[winter pike]

very nice

[gusty magnet]

now im trying gold stake..

this is gonna be hell isnt it

black deck gold stake ❤️

[winter pike]

just get riff raff

[floral mural]

you can reliably discard 2 of a rank for 10 each round while faceless is way less reliable to set up the same way

at least in my experience

[gusty magnet]

do i take bus in this situation

or do i open buffoon

[winter pike]

if it wasnt rental

[gusty magnet]

a can you type rq

[manic talon]

You would die to no econ with black deck amte 1 rental, you have to get like, insanely lucky and find rebate in pack

[gusty magnet]

aw man

i was gonna take the funniest ss

[winter pike]

❓

[buoyant ridge]

wow

[gusty magnet]

yorick my beloved + yoricks strongest hater typing at the same time

[winter pike]

i see

[modern panther]

Ain't no way. literally the only time I take a chance on an ante 1 pillar.

[vocal rose]

bus eliminates you from this world

[manic talon]

If its not rental she couldnt buy it

[winter pike]

that is true

i forgot about that part

[vocal rose]

buffoon is def the play

[wintry ice]

rental that needs you to trade all your money in the deck with the single worst economy

[gusty magnet]

beautiful

[wintry ice]

okay that would have made bus worth it

[zinc karma]

Do i just lose here?

[wintry ice]

rebate is that crazy

[floral mural]

rental anything that isnt econ is terrible ante 1 tbf

[winter pike]

why are they green

[wintry ice]

blackboard is enough if your planets are scaled

[floral mural]

it could be obelisk and i wouldnt take it rental ante 1 tbh

[zinc karma]

Lvl 13 pairs

[gusty magnet]

geen

[left juniper]

Blackboard should be fine with pairs right?

[wintry ice]

that's a later investment so like

[winter pike]

why are they geen

[gusty magnet]

gumi

[left juniper]

As in... enough scoring

[gusty magnet]

and whatsapp

[pale wolf]

best with pairs in fact

[buoyant ridge]

and im still loosing

[gusty magnet]

and also i just like the green more

[left juniper]

Yeah I worded it badly. I mean they should be fine playing pairs and blackboard lol

[floral mural]

its the rental part which makes me hesitant not the obelisk obelisk is goated tbf

[wintry ice]

i would have gone all in on bull at that point

[earnest pelican]

I'll take a rental Burnt Joker pretty early to get some quick levels in but yeah it's almost always a bad idea

[buoyant ridge]

even with polychrome brainstorm on plasma it aint worth it

[wintry ice]

yeah but the lack of immediate value makes it worse

[manic talon]

Why is the spade king still normal

[gusty magnet]

cause the texture pack wasnt finished by then

[inland blaze]

How to use obelisk correctly? Why people saying that its good?

[manic talon]

Play pairs > stop playing pairs

[pale wolf]

The design concept behind obelisk is to build a tower/stack of a single hand type, and then dance around it for the rest of the game by not playing it anymore

[wintry ice]

get a source of mult and chips that doesn't depend on hands

[pale wolf]

10-15 pairs is the formula

[inland blaze]

Alright

[wintry ice]

and then play a hand 10-20 times or so

[inland blaze]

Thanks

[left juniper]

Ante 2 pivot Obelisk if Checkered Deck. Trust me I've done it

[wintry ice]

(not high card because that's dangerous)

[manic talon]

Its so easy on checkered

[junior jasper]

whats the highest someones gotten on obelisk, i've only gotten it to like 2.4X

[pale wolf]

high card is a bad obelisk stack both bc its better to scale fast later than to build stack fast, but also high card is the only hand type you can be forced to play

[left juniper]

I swear the word "Checkered" summoned you

[manic talon]

You play 12 flushes and you get free Xmult

I was always here

[left juniper]

But yeah true. Checkered makes Obelisk a breeze

[junior jasper]

always watching

always waiting

[left juniper]

Shhh dont ruin my bit

[pale wolf]

much much higher than that

[buoyant ridge]

POV: gold stake plasma but we make it easier and only start with kings

[pale wolf]

i would guess the record is above 50X

[floral mural]

i got obelisk to 9.2x once with room to spare on ante 8

[junior jasper]

i couldn't fathom anything above like 10x

[junior jasper]

evilisk

[left juniper]

wait lemme check mine

[wintry ice]

i've gotten it to 13x

[junior jasper]

anyways im gonna set this up now

[pale wolf]

heres a 8X obelisk i did https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1379214645742796911/1425246957592641586/screen-20251007-180910.mp4?ex=6901eaea&is=6900996a&hm=76e1e90298c5c62210427c511c95a2a81633fb581446ad50ebaecf9924b584eb&

[left juniper]

7.4 before I stopped because I beat ante 8

[zinc karma]

Lvl 5 high card... Thats my last hope

[manic talon]

I guess the average obby is like 5 to 8X

[zinc karma]

Pray for me 🙏

[pale wolf]

i think around 8x is the highest you can expect for ante 8

[junior jasper]

the strongest yorick vs the weakest perkeo

[zinc karma]

FUCK

[manic talon]

Oof

[winter pike]

tragic

[rancid widget]

i don't think i have anything to murder for bs

[manic talon]

I have a suggestion

[gusty magnet]

if only it wasnt perishable.

[pale wolf]

kill yorick

unironically

[zinc karma]

I think it was a giant skill issue this run

I got a few other pairs

But i discarded looking for tarot

Dman

[winter pike]

i love yorick but there is no way he'd be doing more than another idol

or sock

[manic talon]

Consumed by greed, many such cases

[pale wolf]

but the foil 🙂

[winter pike]

true

[pale wolf]

jkjk

[winter pike]

i didnt consider that

[pale wolf]

yea here you murder yorick with a hatchet

[winter pike]

noo

[pale wolf]

and then replace him with a napkin

[winter pike]

not my boy

take him out without pain

[zinc karma]

I am really not sure if i take pants here cuz vagabond seems too strong early game

[pale wolf]

human sized paper shredder from the toes up

[pale wolf]

pants pants

what deck is that

[winter pike]

challenge deck

[wintry ice]

pants is instant direction so

[pale wolf]

no shit

[zinc karma]

Cruelty

[winter pike]

o

[gusty magnet]

okay.

[winter pike]

am i stupid?

[gusty magnet]

guys.

[pale wolf]

oh no shit, 3 slots right

[gusty magnet]

its like the game is begging me to do it.

[zinc karma]

Ye, and now money beating small and big

[winter pike]

dont do it

[zinc karma]

Thats why im concerned about pants

[rancid widget]

there's nothing we can do

[zinc karma]

I need a econ joker early on

[gusty magnet]

no double idol?

[silk tapir]

Flush Houses run

[pale wolf]

vagabond or pants seem about equal there tbh

[gusty magnet]

find a luchidor

[junior jasper]

im at 22 negative gros michel rn

im micheling it

[winter pike]

idol is not good for ante 8

[willow frost]

you have 22 of them? what?

[gusty magnet]

ok

[junior jasper]

perhaps

[gusty magnet]

?????

[willow frost]

what the fuck?

[junior jasper]

and a cavendish

[junior jasper]

banana

[pale wolf]

claim: i have 22 negative gros michel
counterclaim: no the fuck you dont

how would you do that legitimately

[zinc karma]

I shouldve taken pants.

[pale wolf]

you cant ankh ecto a non-eternal

[pale wolf]

ooof

[junior jasper]

who said i was doing it legitimately

[gusty magnet]

LOL

okay

fair

[junior jasper]

gros michel 🤤

[winter pike]

gross michael

[gusty magnet]

do i build up square

should i do it

[pale wolf]

you dont have the hands to

[winter pike]

yes

maybe

[gusty magnet]

i think its worth it

[pale wolf]

it cant hurt i guess

[gusty magnet]

but

alr

[pale wolf]

helps with parking too

[rancid widget]

what a glorius run isn't it

[gusty magnet]

nah i lost

gg

[pale wolf]

why are you double copying bloodstone 😭

[winter pike]

rip

[rancid widget]

i did fuck myself over by buying the x2 planet and x4 tarot vouchers

[glossy furnace]

barron run

[junior jasper]

more michels

34 now

[rancid widget]

accidentally, i was double copying sock to get as much lucky card 20$ hits as possible

[pale wolf]

ooh okey

[rancid widget]

i

didn't get a single hit in from the big blind...

[pale wolf]

ruined

[left juniper]

Standard Bloodstone

[rancid widget]

hits from lucky card

[left juniper]

Don't ruin my joke with facts

delet this

[junior jasper]

how many michels are gonna break on the first round i play with this do you think

last michel to live wins

[rancid widget]

i ain't dying from the boss blind itself im dying from zero cards in deck

fuck you plant you aint takin the kill

[junior jasper]

this is very time consuming

[violet bear]

Negative bloodstone be like bilestone

[rancid widget]

bile???

bile???

BILE????

[violet bear]

Yes

Bile

[junior jasper]

bilewater

[rancid widget]

like bilewater

[violet bear]

Correct

[junior jasper]

tiwns

[junior jasper]

twins

[valid berry]

bile,,water? THE BEST AREA IN SILKSONG MENTION???

[rancid widget]

the worst fucking location known to man

[violet bear]

The colors are there

[junior jasper]

quiet

[junior jasper]

potassium 🤤

[violet bear]

Okay though

[valid berry]

its my opinion lalalalalala

[violet bear]

The bilewater theme slaps

[rancid widget]

ragebait 0/10

[valid berry]

so does the lore

[violet bear]

So does the lore yeah

[junior jasper]

your opinion is WRONG

[rancid widget]

no one this isn't true

but bilewater itself is ass

[violet bear]

I think my least favorite part about bilewater is the regular enemies going around

[junior jasper]

all these gros michels are slowing my school chromebook

[valid berry]

maybe thats why i LIKE it

[junior jasper]

durability test

[rancid widget]

how why

how what and why

[junior jasper]

localthunk is recoding my gam 🙂

what a kind man

[junior jasper]

how: magic
what: gros michel
why: banan

[frank monolith]

Lol

[junior jasper]

im gonna see if i can get to like 150

[quasi pond]

skill issue, should have bought director's cut

[left juniper]

Stop cropping your screenshots and hiding your secrets

[quasi pond]

bait used to be beLIEvable

[junior jasper]

a magician never reveals his tricks

[left juniper]

But you're a cyborg. Tell me

[viral totem]

I got 6,297,156 from a single hand yay
I know that's small but I'm still proud lol

[junior jasper]

im a magic robot

[valid berry]

spectral card to turn banana into better banana when

[junior jasper]

to my loyal fans, my school computer isnt gonna be running 500 gros michels, maybe 125

[viral totem]

Banana factory

[viral totem]

S t e n c I l

[warped snow]

I think he likes stencil

[restive plover]

balatro gaming

[lunar zealot]

Oo wee oo i look just like buddy holly

[viral totem]

Oo ooh and you're Mary Tyler Moore

[restive plover]

so real

[viral totem]

Man, the jump from ante 10 to 11 is insane

I'll never be good at this game

[lunar zealot]

lol?

all you need is beat ante 8

endless requires a different skillset

[viral totem]

Yeah but I want to unlock that one joker you get when you reach 12

[lunar zealot]

ante 12 kills 90% of builds anyway

[junior jasper]

100 banan and a cavendish

[lunar zealot]

ante 13 kills the remaining 8%

[wintry ice]

your best bet for that is aj and retriggers

[lunar zealot]

Well

there's something better

[junior jasper]

make bets on how many are left when i play 1 round

[restive plover]

banana equivalent dose

[lunar zealot]

🖼️

[wintry ice]

9

[viral totem]

This has been my best run yet

[wintry ice]

yea that's also an option

there are also just glass card builds

[viral totem]

Ah yes the LA riot build

[terse vale]

83 maybe

[lunar zealot]

Dude

[lunar zealot]

Copy photo

not holo

[viral totem]

But hologram is at x4.25

[lunar zealot]

so?

[winter pike]

photo is x8

with chad

[viral totem]

Oh wait

[lunar zealot]

copying hologram is like x18.something

[viral totem]

Yeah lol

[lunar zealot]

copying photo is x64

[viral totem]

[lunar zealot]

18.0625 i was really close

Like i was really really close

that warrants mentioning right

Please

[wintry ice]

22.29r29r29482

[winter pike]

no

[lunar zealot]

girl what happened to you

[wintry ice]

nothing

[terse vale]

clooose somewhat close

4 off

[lunar zealot]

are those fighting game notations

[lunar zealot]

Wait what the fuck

how is that only 67k

[shell dagger]

67

[wintry ice]

no chips probably

[viral totem]

Run over 😭

[lunar zealot]

3^79 is still like 4.92e37

[shell dagger]

3^84 is not 67k lmao

Oops

[winter pike]

theyre michaels

it's only one cavendish

[lunar zealot]

ohhhhhhhh

[wintry ice]

wow it takes that many bananas to match bus what a bad joker

[lunar zealot]

but that's still 3555 mult

[winter pike]

4500

since they died

[lunar zealot]

3(79(15))

Why am i using that notation LMAO

[lavish gazelle]

Cavendish not last is wild

[winter pike]

4503*15

[lunar zealot]

(79 x 15) x 3

[winter pike]

67545

[lunar zealot]

catching my ass using () for multiplication

kill me immediately

[wintry ice]

• whatever the chips from the hand they played is

xmult(mult(chips))

[lapis ocean]

I see 4x mult on a card I think “Ooooh big number”

[white zodiac]

better than being one of my canadian friends that calls this bs brackets

[winter pike]

(5 + 10) * (1 + 15 * 100) * 3 = 67545

[lavish gazelle]

Balacalc momento

[lunar zealot]

I hate math

[winter pike]

i LOVE maths

[lunar zealot]

how many cavendishes do you need for naneinf

assuming plasma deck

cavendishi?