🕹・game-discussion

[stiff fjord]

i always see black hole more often than soul

[west copper]

Should’ve taken throwback

[wintry ice]

true

[ripe iris]

petition for thunk to add legendary planets that black hole gives so it can be on the same level as soul

[winter pike]

dont talk about my boy like that

[west copper]

… uh..? The secret planets??

They do exist..

[ripe iris]

but

thats not

????

[hybrid tendon]

nah we love yorick, it's a bad ai moment reference

[ripe iris]

i dont even understand

[west copper]

Fym legendary planets

Like

[wintry ice]

i'm not going for the most boring run of all time

[west copper]

Buffed planets?

[ripe iris]

idk

something that makes black hole on a similar level to soul

[willow frost]

cryptid mentioned

[winter pike]

very good

[unborn cliff]

take it

[alpine basalt]

shockingly not taking cavendish here

[west copper]

Buffed plants sounds cool but you’d have to make a variant for each planet and that seems like bloating the planet pool

Somehow

[winter pike]

levels up hand by 100

[ripe iris]

i dont mean buffed planets

i mean like

just some planets

[willow frost]

why now

[unborn cliff]

how could walkie talkie possibly be better than cavendish

[willow frost]

not*

[buoyant ridge]

and loosing again

[ripe iris]

that do coll things

ig

[ripe iris]

levels up most played hand by 10

[unborn cliff]

sell dna dude

[west copper]

Depending on their level walkie might as well be better then cav

But yeah sell dna

[ripe iris]

multiplies all planet levels by 3

smth like that

idfk

[west copper]

Unless ur idolmaxxing

[wintry ice]

i'm pretty sure 3x is more than what chad does without a glass card

[west copper]

For endless

lol

[wintry ice]

also bro wants his boyfriend so bad

[alpine basalt]

nah i'm not idol maxxing, but I just want a bit more 4's here so I can pivot to flush 5

[unborn cliff]

take it

[wintry ice]

honk shmimimi

[alpine basalt]

Idol would go crazy though

[ripe iris]

idk if your talking ab chad + photo or yorick + drunkard

[willow frost]

CRYPTID MENTIOEND

[buoyant ridge]

damned i cant even win this

[winter pike]

take it

[wintry ice]

it's optimal but photochad is boring

[buoyant ridge]

wildcards should get removed from the game,

[winter pike]

o i didnt see the photo

[unborn cliff]

i dont want to go to ante 2

[alpine basalt]

also I didn't take the cavendish( i'm trying to moneymaxx till I can't anymore)

[simple bronze]

i am the best

[unborn cliff]

is this a good score for ante 1?

[buoyant ridge]

i feel like a total noob, cant even win 2 gold stakes on plasma today

[simple bronze]

no good

[unborn cliff]

god im so poor i only have a million dollars

[simple bronze]

play green deck green deck is ez

i cleared it first try

econ not needed

[buoyant ridge]

i wanna be a pro because everyone is playing on plasma

[unborn cliff]

is this a good score for ante 2

[simple bronze]

plasma is kinda tough since it plays so differently to other decks

is this ggs?

[alpine basalt]

damn lucky

[simple bronze]

lets go

jk

oh

this really is ggs

oh my

[alpine basalt]

well I really wasn't idolmaxxing but I may end up there by accident with how this run is going

[simple bronze]

lets go

[surreal glade]

suffering

[willow frost]

what are you suffering for just sell lusty lol

[balmy ridge]

she get 3eaky on my venits

[echo yew]

then take the wheel

[surreal glade]

fair

worth it was canio

[serene forge]

I hate Black Hole

[buoyant crater]

where is the cat guy

[echo yew]

i feel like i get way more black holes than souls

[simple bronze]

oh my

[alpine basalt]

man this run just keeps getting better and better

[simple bronze]

this is free win

[echo yew]

now watch as you get 0 hung men for the rest of your run

[winter pike]

just snipe with grim/incantation/familiar

[alpine basalt]

this ones def going endless with idol

[warped cradle]

can anyone help me figure ut why my criptid mod isnt working

[surreal glade]

that killed the run, lusty was providing too much mult

[echo yew]

despair

[simple bronze]

am i good to start scaling obelisk now?

i am basically one shooting every blind

[verbal oak]

Congrats on the win

[alpine basalt]

yeah probably

[buoyant crater]

how do you do to make the low black bar show on the cards ?

[alpine basalt]

thats a mod i think?

[wintry ice]

jokerdisplay mod

[buoyant crater]

ohhhh

[willow frost]

why does the food when you in the eat you food hot out you cold

[buoyant crater]

AHAHAHAHAHA

[willow frost]

sorry

[buoyant crater]

thats just true

[simple bronze]

ez

[hardy fable]

True mvp is me

trust

[willow frost]

that was unnecessarily hostile of me, my bad lol

[buoyant crater]

that was fun

all g

[willow frost]

epic

[simple bronze]

now do i throw this run to get a sticker on a dusk?

[terse vale]

do you like neeeeed sattelite

cus it seems like you just win

[simple bronze]

i don't have sticker on sattlie

[terse vale]

ohh

[simple bronze]

i guess which is more useless sattelite or dusk

[mighty topaz]

regarding cryptid. which would be better to copy for an endless 2 run?

[terse vale]

satt

[simple bronze]

i gues i go for dusk next time

[fervent verge]

i have this as my shop, i have retcon, do i wait to burglar until a later ante?

if i'm trying to snake naneinf^

[uncut slate]

dusk is good but it's so slow to play with 😭 you're telling me i have to score all my hands??

[naive torrent]

What do y’all think is gonna be in the update?

[uncut slate]

same with acro

[naive torrent]

Or what do you wanna see

[alpine basalt]

do we think rebate or ticket is better money here

[alpine basalt]

should be ticket right

[simple bronze]

thats a fun one

[nova mantle]

Satellite is hard carrying

[winter pike]

if you had more gold cards yes

[alpine basalt]

I have DNA though, making gold cards wouldn't be that big of an issue

[simple bronze]

look at my money lmao

[winter pike]

didnt see that

yeah itd be better

[nova mantle]

Depends on how many discards you got, but I'd say if you put hack to be copied you'd make more money with ticket

[alpine basalt]

2 discards

[ripe iris]

stupid question but should i take the soul or the 50$ temperance

[alpine basalt]

sorry I cropped that out by accident

[nova mantle]

Yeah ticket is better

[ripe iris]

id take soul if it was gold stake for the sticker but honestly im having way too much fun to ruin it with a legendary

[nova mantle]

Even with 1 hand full of 2 you'll be making more than using those 2 discards

So yeah I'd cop the ticket

[alpine basalt]

man i'm a fool, just accidentally stregthed one of my gold 4's with a 3, now my deck is not perfect

[nova mantle]

Best econ oat 🗣️🔥

[nova mantle]

Death and copy that pretty 5

[ripe iris]

afraid not

[nova mantle]

Jk id probably cop the temperance since there could be nothing in that soul to help you

[nova mantle]

Of the 5 legendaries not ironically I'd believe the one that could help you the most is chicot

So yeah...

[zinc karma]

Finally 😭😭😭 after 20+ tries

[ripe iris]

obviously its chigoat

[coarse silo]

8 ball buff, good blue stake, new edition maybe, some new jokers, a new legendary joker, new boss blinds and a new finisher blind, more achievements and challenges

[nova mantle]

What challenge?

[naive torrent]

I hope legendaries are made at least a bit more common

[coarse silo]

Maybe 0.5 or even 1%

[zinc karma]

Blast off

[nova mantle]

Hardest irl inspiration for a legendary

[stark karma]

8 ball buff is def interesting

Why?

[naive torrent]

I think a challenge editor would be cool. Let players make their own challenges with custom modifiers, restrictions, and card/joker starts. And people could even post them to a challenge browser

[stark karma]

I kinda like that

[uncut slate]

8 ball is plenty powerful

[zinc karma]

Mario maker in balatro seems fun

[naive torrent]

Yeah

[uncut slate]

8 ball can turn your whole deck into 8s

[naive torrent]

Oh and a sandbox mode so you can test out different interactions

[ripe iris]

alright this was a fun run

[long oxide]

do i take photo

[ripe iris]

orange stake too btw

[long oxide]

and have 4 eternals

[nova mantle]

I saw the constellation and rocket and I thought "that sounds kinda easy" till I saw the hands 😭

[zinc karma]

Why do u even ask?

[nova mantle]

2 hands per round is wicked work

[zinc karma]

Ye, thats the whole problem around this challenge

[long oxide]

if i find idol i wouldnt be able too

[nova mantle]

No

Jk obv take it

[coarse silo]

Idk like maybe 2/4 or smth

Just something to make it more useful

[coarse silo]

?

[zinc karma]

Btw, why do u have all 6s?

[minor portal]

trust just munch on planet cards and find blueprint or something

[long oxide]

lucky

[naive torrent]

Yeah a 0.3% chance to get any legendary at all is crazy. And it makes it so frustrating when you do finally find a soul card but get Chicot 😭

[nova mantle]

Ik, but there's some early challenges that end up making the game easier lol

[zinc karma]

Which is 1/2
Broken

[coarse silo]

Hallucinations 1/2

[uncut slate]

yeah 1/4 is just good enough

[minor portal]

fragile:

[uncut slate]

twice per shop vs once per 8

[nova mantle]

You js don't find BP or brainstorm like that tho

[uncut slate]

you can trigger 8ball a ton of times

[long oxide]

is 14 too small of a deck

[minor portal]

we live laugh love glass cards

[zinc karma]

Per pack
2 packs in the shop
8 is a card, max of 5, and may have retriggers

[shell dagger]

It’s on the smaller side for sure

[zinc karma]

I was in a 15 streak in challenges till i get to blast off

[shell dagger]

What does a 14 card deck have over a 20 card deck

[nova mantle]

Can't call John blueprint or Jane brainstorm to appear in the next shop reroll js like that

[coarse silo]

Damn you win

But I still stand by everything I said

[minor portal]

I did on my first challenge run of that stupid thing so maybe it's just balaluck

[uncut slate]

like yes 8ball is weak in most runs but whenever 8ball hits it does not need to be any stronger

[zinc karma]

8 ball is already an awesome card if u have a retrigger

[orchid comet]

where do I go with this

[nova mantle]

Bala luck is a legit thing

[zinc karma]

Pray

[orchid comet]

😭

[uncut slate]

8ballchad is good enough

[left juniper]

Ante 4 and 10k score. No way you lose

[nova mantle]

When I was doing plasma gold stake I managed to get purple orange and gold stake in one sitting, back to back to back

[zinc karma]

Chad is easily (for me) top retriggers

I love chad

[orchid comet]

ye but idk how to play my joker set rn

[coarse silo]

I always sell paradoila but you do you

[orchid comet]

I usually focus on getting one hand type

[uncut slate]

chad is likely the best common

[minor portal]

rebate

[left juniper]

Just sort by rank and prayge you get a pair

[naive torrent]

Do you have any ideas for new editions?

[orchid comet]

cavendish is common

[zinc karma]

Valid

[coarse silo]

Chad with golden ticket gives $12 per hand

[uncut slate]

chad mogs

[minor portal]

as a stand alone joker, rebate is better

[coarse silo]

In ortalab there’s an edition that makes jokers retrigger so maybe a rare one like that

[naive torrent]

Is that a mod?

[minor portal]

literally free money

[coarse silo]

Yeah

It’s basically reverse Balatro

[left juniper]

If you can give valid arguments for "best" things and people cant agree then that means the balance must be good

[nova mantle]

What was your idea of an 8 ball buff

[coarse silo]

2/4

[hardy fable]

this is so stupid

[nova mantle]

Ehhh

[left juniper]

Delete it

[nova mantle]

Id say 1 in 3

Or rework it

[zinc karma]

Pls get swash

[coarse silo]

But how

[nova mantle]

No idea lol

But 1 in 2 (same as 2 in 4) sounds like too many odds

[naive torrent]

They could make it so playing cards could have the negative edition. If a negative card is drawn, another card is drawn as well regardless of hand size

[harsh relic]

8 Ball is already goated

[left juniper]

Tarots are kinda OP so 1/2 honestly feels too strong. 1/3 might be better

[oblique matrix]

Disable the boss blind when scoring an 8

[left juniper]

Hallucination being 1/2 makes more sense than 8 Ball being 1/2

[coarse silo]

Ooh

Maybe have it be less rare than joker negatives

[naive torrent]

Yeah

[coarse silo]

Still kinda op
Literally almost chicot

[nova mantle]

Yeah cuz you can only open 2 packs per round but you can play 4 eights

Not even accounting for deck fixing

[left juniper]

I know you just edited but yeah you can play more than 4

[zinc karma]

Matador is goated (sometimes)

[naive torrent]

8-ball could be changed to a cloud 9 type of effect where the number of 8s in your total deck determines the odds of generating a tarot card at the end of the round

[left juniper]

Vagabond gives 1 per hand. 8 Ball shouldn't be stronger than that

[nova mantle]

That sounds cryptid mod-esque

And would be broken with, say, baron mime

[naive torrent]

I don’t know anything about mods besides the multiplayer one

[zinc karma]

Gay madness

[orchid comet]

that's an awesome way to put it

[nova mantle]

If I got a negative king and DNA it, I would just get infinite kings in hand and naneinf in no time

[orchid comet]

I never got why someone would use that or vampire

[cursive lion]

i mean i got it first hand and now since its poly lets stick with it

[nova mantle]

Pride madness

[hardy fable]

finally got palette

[cursive lion]

hold on...

[hardy fable]

yeah vampires suck

[zinc karma]

Madness is a good joker, and i feel like vampire is dependent on midas

[zinc karma]

Do it

[naive torrent]

But too many negative cards makes the risk of running your deck out and dying

[zinc karma]

Noooooooooooo

[orchid comet]

doesn't madness just eat jokers

[coarse silo]

Vampire scales way to slow, maybe 0.25x would be better

[nova mantle]

The humble DNA:

[zinc karma]

Eternals:

[hardy fable]

isn't this just anti synergy, skip you can't scale madness don't skip you'll destroy throwback

[cursive lion]

it does but if you have eternal jokers

[coarse silo]

That’s the joke

[zinc karma]

Way too strong ig

[orchid comet]

I haven't discovered that yet I js unlocked challenges

[uncut slate]

vampire is another one that just seems good enough to me

[nova mantle]

Throwback is getting DEVOURED the first chance madness is given 😭

[coarse silo]

Yeah but it removes the enhancement

And if you’ve gotten vampire and Midas in a run you’ve basically won

[uncut slate]

you get a bunch of free xmult from spamming enhancements on your cards

[zinc karma]

Eternals are eternal jokers, which means they cant be destroyed or sold

[cursive lion]

TRUE

[hardy fable]

no x mult is weak, some are just situational

[zinc karma]

Not like theyre THAT useful on a non endless run

[naive torrent]

They appear on black stake and higher

[nova mantle]

Also madness gives .5 per round and throwback only gives . 25

[orchid comet]

oh?

[nova mantle]

What stake are you on

[cursive lion]

pride parade

[orchid comet]

I'm on green I think

[cursive lion]

red stake

[alpine basalt]

Very glad I kept the dna and did not take the cavendish

[cursive lion]

for this deck

but gotten to blue stake

[harsh relic]

imagine idol hitting the 6

[nova mantle]

You dying twin

[alpine basalt]

I have just broken the 6 in the very next round finally

[harsh relic]

phew

[cursive lion]

im not dying

i keep winning

[zinc karma]

Most useful madness

[alpine basalt]

the idol took 1.5k rerolling took fuckin ages

[nova mantle]

Vampire with midas or enough tarot cards is pretty strong tho

Up to .5 in hand is pretty good if you ask me

[zinc karma]

I mean, in a bad round, its 2.5x on vampire

[minor portal]

the dubious madness:

[cosmic sun]

least free vampire run

[zinc karma]

Gross

[alpine basalt]

this runs prolly gonna end up a new non-seeded pb for me

[violet sparrow]

what should i choose?

[alpine basalt]

think it beats ante 16

[zinc karma]

Walkie

[alpine basalt]

walkie

[cosmic sun]

ooo ooo I eat up useless enhancements

[lunar zealot]

Where your money dung man

[cursive lion]

walkie unless you are going to do a straight run

[nova mantle]

Talkie since everyone said walkie

[zinc karma]

No hate on my lucky cards here

[cursive lion]

i love lucky cards

[cosmic sun]

lucky cards are okay sometimes, still vamp food

[minor portal]

clearly they do not hit the 1/15 chance consistently

[cosmic sun]

even gold and steels are vampire food once you have your score settled

[violet sparrow]

what now

[nova mantle]

I was finna ask if the rectangle at the bottom right was a webcam 😭 I'm crying

[coarse silo]

Gamble

[orchid comet]

yes what now

[cosmic sun]

sorry I'm in a women's prison

[orchid comet]

overstock

my love

[nova mantle]

Choose the one in the right it has a brainstorm

[minor portal]

Matador or baron to sell

[orchid comet]

to sell?

[vocal rose]

obviously matador

[naive torrent]

How do you put a show on your game like that?

[minor portal]

baron sucks

[vocal rose]

it’s holo

[orchid comet]

oh nvm I read that wrong

[nova mantle]

Matador

[violet sparrow]

it has a baron and a loyalty card

[nova mantle]

For the free mult

[coarse silo]

No he needs interest

[orchid comet]

I see many people use it

[vocal rose]

matador for value too

what’s your boss blind

[orchid comet]

pillar

[vocal rose]

this run is won

gg

[harsh relic]

matador

[zinc karma]

I really dont think its worth for a 0.1x

[minor portal]

it is only good in very niche situations

[cursive lion]

why are you in a womens' prison

[nova mantle]

Erm.. trash or garbage tbh 😭

[coarse silo]

I had a baron mime run on orange stake go to ante 10

It’s pretty good even like only 3 kings is enough to win ante 8

[cursive lion]

depends

[nova mantle]

Choose baron for the money lwk

[cosmic sun]

If you're scaling vampire you kinda have no choice

[vocal rose]

free 24-32 bucks just play high card or pairs on the debuffed cards

[violet sparrow]

i've heard baron is good tho

[vocal rose]

and your econ is set for the run

[cosmic sun]

not all runs are retrigger runs

[cursive lion]

baron is okay but you need mime or steel cards

[vocal rose]

it’s not

baron is bad

[cursive lion]

matador is confusing but it has holo

[cosmic sun]

which is why I'm stickering everything so fast

[ripe iris]

i hate the vessel so much

[orchid comet]

would high card win

[vocal rose]

probably not

which is good

[alpine basalt]

think I should take dusk for the ticket here or wait a few antes first?

[orchid comet]

yes exactly I see it so many times in clips

[vocal rose]

just count your mult

[jagged valve]

This game is so fun

[vocal rose]

you can do that

[cosmic sun]

it's not good in gold stake which is what a lot of players talk about here

[zinc karma]

Isnt anaglyph the best deck for stickering?

[ripe iris]

stupid ass vessel

[cosmic sun]

no

[zinc karma]

Why

[orchid comet]

I see

[vocal rose]

not really

[cursive lion]

yes and no

[vocal rose]

you just want a high win rate

blue deck does that the best

[cursive lion]

double tags and negative tags is easy but the problem is that

[ripe iris]

fucking bottom drawed my 3oak and lost to the vessel

[cosmic sun]

cause the skips and jokers you get from skips aren't guaranteed to be the ones you need

[west copper]

Analglyph certainly does have the most best potential for joker stickers though

[ripe iris]

hate that thing so much

[alpine basalt]

anyone?

[nova mantle]

For what crime?

Burglary?

[zinc karma]

Makes sense

[alpine basalt]

anaglyph is good if you have like no stickers otherwise a different deck is better

[cosmic sun]

the way you sticker is just shopping for the joker and building the run around it, or it being dead weight, and/or you pick it up in the last few shops when you've already won

[nova mantle]

Id take dusk personally

[west copper]

Yeah but most people use analglyph for the early grind of c++ when not many jokers are g stickered to begin with so this barely matters

[violet sparrow]

now what?

[harsh relic]

Ghost deck with the ectos too

[nova mantle]

You got lucky cards so with that many retriggers that is your econ solution

[cosmic sun]

just pick your favorite deck it'll be fine

[harsh relic]

more joker slots

[versed hemlock]

Can someone explain why this didn’t count as clearing red stake pls?

[zinc karma]

Black

[west copper]

Yeah I’m using magic deck / a mix of ghost deck for my c++ journey

[harsh relic]

was the run seeded?

[versed hemlock]

No

[cosmic sun]

valid for masochists

[nova mantle]

The deck you're more comfortable popping off is the one that'll get you more wins

[versed hemlock]

This has happened before to me as well in gold stake red deck

[jagged valve]

Plasma Deck is fun

[rigid forge]

bruh the deckfixing in this seed, I got a 38 card deck and I'm on small blind ante 2 lmao

[solid tapir]

I agree

[jagged valve]

Ohhh shii

[nova mantle]

More wins=more gold stickers
In the end, 2 anaglyph wins with 10 jokers is less than 6 normal deck wins with 5 jokers

[jagged valve]

Hello

[solid tapir]

Hello

[rigid forge]

Rolled 2 early immolates and 2 hanged mans

[west copper]

This is actually a bug I’ve never seen before wow okay

Any mods?

[versed hemlock]

No, playing mobile version

[jagged valve]

So sad that mods don't really exist on mobile

[west copper]

Strange

[solid tapir]

mobile missing out fs

[west copper]

Did you like lose service Mayhaps

[nova mantle]

Magic deck is goated ❤️‍🩹

[wintry ice]

it's a known mobile bug

[nova mantle]

My beloved

[west copper]

IM GLAD SOMEONE AGREES

MY BELOVED

[wintry ice]

magic deck is fun

[solid tapir]

magic deck is fun

[versed hemlock]

Ugh

[solid tapir]

I like double fool start

[violet sparrow]

BLUEPRINT SPOTTED

[solid tapir]

Baron...

[rigid forge]

thats a foil astronomer you silly

[wintry ice]

bare on

[west copper]

Unholy amounts of bait going on here

But

[night turret]

Hmmmm

[west copper]

It works

[nova mantle]

It was one of my first gold stakes and I still miss it today 💔
Once I do get all the gold stake'd decks I'll come back to it

[solid tapir]

Baron casually doing nothing in that lineup

[west copper]

With a good enough high card level it would demolish though even pre ante 8

[violet sparrow]

alright got rid of baron

[solid tapir]

and where are we summoning these Pluto's from

[west copper]

My ass hair particles

[solid tapir]

I'm surprised

good job

[solid tapir]

true

[nova mantle]

I'm dead 😭 walkie is doing NOTHING in that lineup

[solid tapir]

walkie is doing more than baron

[west copper]

Walkie genuinely doing the MOST

in that lineup

[solid tapir]

exactly

[west copper]

Fuck we on

[solid tapir]

lmao

[orchid comet]

fr

[rigid forge]

3rd immolate on ante 2 round 5. what is this seed? wtf

[solid tapir]

bait ass statement

[nova mantle]

Hell NAW baron is clearly carrying

[serene forge]

https://www.reddit.com/r/balatro/comments/1ohu6sp/stop_calling_obelisk_situational_3_examples_of/

[solid tapir]

thank God it was bait

[west copper]

Honestly I don’t really agree too hard on removing Baron early the run did seem to have good potential especially with like playing a 10 high or something with kings in hand

You’d need chips though

Badly

[nova mantle]

I was an obelisk hater till he helped me with two of my painted deck runs

[solid tapir]

they have braincells

[nova mantle]

Shit was like 6.25 at the end of the run

[violet sparrow]

what now?

[west copper]

Obelisk and winning the early game???

Huh???

[solid tapir]

take flash card

sell seltzer for chaos

[west copper]

Please dude

Please

[solid tapir]

open arcana first btw

[west copper]

I’m begging you bro

[solid tapir]

also looks inside for the jumbo

[west copper]

It’s right there

[violet sparrow]

flashcard?

[west copper]

Your game win is right there for you

[solid tapir]

Arcana > jumbo > fc > chaos

[west copper]

Chaos AND flash???

[solid tapir]

LOOK AT JUMBO FIRST

[nova mantle]

Maybe not enough xmult scaling in my opinion

[solid tapir]

before taking shop jokers

[nova mantle]

You're missing constellation

[west copper]

But yeah jeez that just made my giggle and kick my feet in the air

[orchid comet]

fortune or rocket?

[west copper]

Seeing that screenshot

Of flash and chaos

[solid tapir]

fortune

you have egg for econ

and fortune is nice + mult scaling

[orchid comet]

okk

[solid tapir]

plus it's Poly

[left prairie]

Hi I discovered this game last week and I'm surprised it's so good

[cosmic sun]

vampire

[nova mantle]

CHAOS AND FLASH CARD?? you can go directly to the win screen with that shit bro 😭

[solid tapir]

LT did a good job

[solid tapir]

ante 2 vampire

[serene forge]

skip

[violet sparrow]

are any of these good?

[west copper]

Chaos and flash be moving like photo and Chad

[solid tapir]

faceless is nice, bus is also nice

[serene forge]

bus = free win basically

[cosmic sun]

they can set it up right away, it's green deck also

[left prairie]

I won the red chip today and I was so happy

[cosmic sun]

taking the time to scale vamp early is good

[solid tapir]

wouldn't rely on it personally

[cosmic sun]

they can also buy another multer if banana dies

[cosmic sun]

vamp is a perfectly reasonable play there

[solid tapir]

some consideration to take faceless so you have fc scaling

[west copper]

Take it so you lose

[solid tapir]

shouldn't have sold walkie talkie

[nova mantle]

Like constellation to astronomer

[cosmic sun]

take bus

[solid tapir]

not really

[glossy furnace]

could be massive later on

[solid tapir]

they have chaos and fc

in shop

why take bus

[west copper]

Dude

[solid tapir]

when you can take faceless for fc

[west copper]

Its so bait

[nova mantle]

Bus is good

[vocal rose]

here’s my gs a8 tierlist

give me interactions

[nova mantle]

But PLEASE take chaos and flash card

[solid tapir]

trib in A-

[west copper]

Move flash card to flash card tier

[solid tapir]

[cosmic sun]

one is the better scaler

[white zodiac]

[vocal rose]

yes it’s a decent card

[solid tapir]

they have flash card, and chaos in the shop

[glossy furnace]

i prob play too much comp

[solid tapir]

why would they take

bus

like what

I know bus is great

[vocal rose]

mid card

[solid tapir]

but they have better fc synergy with taking faceless

[nova mantle]

Trib used stilts to get up there

[left prairie]

Today I tried to do flush with hearths is it good ? I also used the joker that killed another one to rise it's multi

[vocal rose]

he lowkey did

[west copper]

Slams your favorite btw

Mogs too

[vocal rose]

you talk like an anime debater

[white zodiac]

digging power + mult > faceless

[coarse silo]

This is peak Balatro

[cosmic sun]

why would you not take an early vampire on green, elaborate.

[solid tapir]

but flash card

[white zodiac]

mid card

[cosmic sun]

they can still take chaos lol

chaos bus

[nova mantle]

Spare trousers is the goat of mult scalers wym

[solid tapir]

not a fan of vampire in general, I don't like how slow it scales and it is reliant on me hitting enhancements

[west copper]

I’m surprised someone’s called me out on this, every time I go on a tangent about flash card I always start power scaling lol

No one’s called me out on this yet

[solid tapir]

I am personally an fc believer

[west copper]

ITS FC AND CHAOS IN THE SHOP

YALL ARE BEING INTENTIONALLY DENSE

[terse dock]

One trick pony

[solid tapir]

I prefer it over bus in this scenario

[glossy furnace]

he is back

[west copper]

TAKE FACELESS

[solid tapir]

they have great jokers to make fc better

[terse dock]

Go next

[vocal rose]

rtb is still better than flash card + chaos

funnily enough

[west copper]

Horrible ragebait

Try again

[cosmic sun]

they can just take bus chaos

lol

[vocal rose]

exactly

[solid tapir]

I can't believe yall fr

[vocal rose]

chaos is the better joker too

[solid tapir]

smh

[cosmic sun]

chaos is doing the heavy lifting in that combo

[terse dock]

4<2

truly brilliant

[winged bolt]

hey guys real quick what will happen with this setup, does hanging chad trigger 4 times now?

[white zodiac]

funny how it requires both of those and 5 bucks to yield the same amount of mult bus does for 4

[nova mantle]

Rtb is bad coz I played a queen high card in the finisher blind and lost that run 💔 /j

[west copper]

You can’t genuinely believe chaos and fc aren’t better then rtb

Actual bait

[solid tapir]

yeh

[white zodiac]

with chaos it's still lower performing bus per dollar

[winged bolt]

awesome it triggers the x2 4 times now

thanks!

[vocal rose]

I’ve never heard you give an argument of substance

[white zodiac]

with double the space

[vocal rose]

other than “you’re shit” and “bait”

[west copper]

“Mid card”

[solid tapir]

but faceless 🥀

[white zodiac]

granted I'll take chaos on its own

[glossy furnace]

why am i gettign so many comp cards

[west copper]

Yeah try again buddy

[glossy furnace]

oh my

[nova mantle]

Me when the rtb is conveniently accompanied by a burglar:

[white zodiac]

what about it

[solid tapir]

money

for fc

and with chaos

[terse dock]

This argument is ass on both sides

[solid tapir]

it's even more money for fc

[terse dock]

You're both tu quoque looping

Get a new strat

[solid tapir]

strong econ in general is good for winning

[naive torrent]

Do Blueprints and Brainstorm have a chance of breaking when copying bananas ?

[nova mantle]

Spare trousers better btw

[white zodiac]

diminishing returns on first reroll and early game stink

[glossy furnace]

take the dusk or no?

[solid tapir]

money is money

[vocal rose]

not even apart of this argument im just noticing

[white zodiac]

I like to guarantee my early game

[alpine basalt]

Whats the optimal copying for scoring here? 1 on idol and 1 on hack? I know I don't need to play all the glass but I want to see how far this ones gonna get.

[vocal rose]

but you’ve looked past plenty of other people giving valid reasonings

[solid tapir]

strong econ early is guaranteeing you win tho

[west copper]

Just pointing out hypocrisy as I see it

Can’t call me out for something your literally doing yk but anyway flash card + chaos outscales rtb in most instances, faster too.

Maybe rtb is cheaper but pure scaling speed goes to flash

[white zodiac]

not on boss blinds

[terse dock]

you're*

[solid tapir]

you have two blinds to pivot for a funny bb

I think that's manageable

[cosmic sun]

"most" and it's just the same anecdotal runs as ever

my bus wins eclipse that fraud

[west copper]

????

[white zodiac]

bus is already your "guaranteed" early game

[wintry ice]

flash card still needs good economy to have better scaling per round than bus even with chaos

[west copper]

This is an actual run we’re talking about

He found flash and chaos

This isn’t a anecdote

[solid tapir]

which I agree with but they had the option for chaos and faceless

[white zodiac]

in the anecdotal experience of well
surviving early antes

[nova mantle]

Like the image and if you don't want to use all glass place you lucky cards to the farthest to the left

[vocal rose]

chaos + 5 dollars gets you equal to four hands of rtb

there’s no debate there

[cosmic sun]

ignoring the return on rtb

[solid tapir]

this is also true

[cosmic sun]

LMAO

[terse dock]

Flashcard has a higher ceiling but bus is safer

[ripe iris]

bus will forever be my goat

[alpine basalt]

I know, i'm just trying to see my max scoring here, then going back to playing only as much glass as needed, my decks about 50% glass so i'm not worried about breaks right now

[terse dock]

You take bus because the probability of it working doesnt hinge on vouchers or econ jokers

[solid tapir]

I feel like both our points are valid, don't think either line is wrong

[vocal rose]

your returns from RTB objectively clear flash card unless you have both vouchers

[west copper]

He has the option of faceless as well.

[white zodiac]

I mentioned that already when it got overlooked

[vocal rose]

yeah that’s what that person typically does

[nova mantle]

I can't believe they reduced price on the rerolls, 2 used to cost 7 dollars

[terse dock]

OK now its equal assuming he does discard once what's your point

[nova mantle]

Localthunk is the best president I've had ever

[wintry ice]

i mean flash card is an option but it's like equal to bus in this situation

[white zodiac]

did you ever calculate the initial purchase

[terse dock]

You're using 3 joker slots for what a bus can do in one

[solid tapir]

is why I said I don't think either line is wrong

[white zodiac]

of the jokers

and the slots it takes

[solid tapir]

you get money in the blind anyways

[wintry ice]

and you can spend the money gained from faceless on something else too

[white zodiac]

this doesn't answer the question 😐

[nova mantle]

The thing is since rtb doesn't depend on those vouchers 99 percent of times it's better to take rtb

[solid tapir]

didn't they have like $29

im sure they can spend a bit for the fc setup

[wintry ice]

who the hell voted yes

[solid tapir]

balatro players

[wintry ice]

roffle backseater lookin ah

[nova mantle]

Me

[cursive lion]

mystic double tag poly chrome pull with analygthic deck

[white zodiac]

once*

[west copper]

Why are we acting like you can only roll 2 times in this setup??

It still will INVEITABLY outscale bus

With faceless and chaos

[hardy fable]

Cinema

[solid tapir]

I'm crying it's so beautiful

[solid tapir]

once ?

[alpine basalt]

wee joker my beloved

[terse dock]

You didn't address the 3 joker slot conundrum

[nova mantle]

What if ya didn't have those 2 tho

[solid tapir]

also they have BP, so that makes faceless even better

[west copper]

Because it’s irrelevant here? I agree in most cases rtb does the job better but he has a literal OPTIMAL scenario for flash card over bus

[white zodiac]

out scaling isn't a concern in the later antes it just needs to score enough upon the words of a doctor

[cosmic sun]

damn it'll do bus's job with 2 slots 💀

[nova mantle]

With no help no vouchers no nothing rtb is better than flashcard

[terse dock]

3 slots

Faceless

[west copper]

It won’t since it has a higher ceiling.

[cosmic sun]

which they could take with bus

[white zodiac]

3 slots is a bit much

[cosmic sun]

no one worth their salt cares if it's less consistent

[wintry ice]

i'd take faceless because there's already a scaling +mult

[white zodiac]

imagine if any of them had tags lol

[terse dock]

Actually wait faceless synergizes with bus

[white zodiac]

if on other examples

[solid tapir]

don't forget the blueprint too

$10

is $10

[wintry ice]

yeah the blueprint is the main reason

[solid tapir]

which is why I specified in this scenario

[west copper]

They are genuinely ignoring that his run is literally almost perfectly built for flash just to praise rtb

[cosmic sun]

ah wow I have a flash run where I got it high so now my opinion has to change

[west copper]

Straw man of doom

No one said this

[wintry ice]

i'm gay and 20$ is 20$

[buoyant crater]

okay so since im still very new to the game, what would you do here ?

i think my negative are bad but since its negative i just keep them but not play around (except if i can stack queen but)

[nova mantle]

But in normal situations rtb clears then

[solid tapir]

I'm not saying that bus is bad in this line

[west copper]

Obviously??? Bus is insanely good

[solid tapir]

but I find prioritizing money early is what gets the wins

[white zodiac]

it's one or the other is the thing

[cosmic sun]

optimal scenario for bus too tho

so

[solid tapir]

and it's flash card scaling

it's a win win

[cosmic sun]

lol

[wintry ice]

you could sell cert for it

[cosmic sun]

nice x react

[terse dock]

I'm straight and $20 is $477.65

[nova mantle]

Alright I think that's what everyone wanted to hear then

Fair enough

[cosmic sun]

too bad you're not qualified to give it

[white zodiac]

explain this like I'm playing black deck

[terse dock]

(I live in 1935)

[buoyant crater]

what is cert?

[manic talon]

no reason to not keep a negative you have until you found invisible joker/hex/ankh

[west copper]

And you are? Lmao

[solid tapir]

would you not take a faceless when playing black deck

[wintry ice]

certificate

[buoyant crater]

okay (:

[cosmic sun]

I don't glaze flash card so I already have a leg up on you

[solid tapir]

I do the same line on black deck

[cosmic sun]

[solid tapir]

fs

[west copper]

You ran out of valid arguments already? Tough.

[white zodiac]

no cause I die discarding my higher chip scoring early/greed

[wintry ice]

most eventful balatro discord argument

[terse dock]

Tuff*

[cosmic sun]

I'm tuff

[solid tapir]

they sold walkie talkie, which was a mistake on their end

[west copper]

Truth nuke

[solid tapir]

so they can keep the 10's and 4's

that was my idea

[nova mantle]

How is having a favorite card a leg up tho 😭

[white zodiac]

I wasn't here during that talk

[solid tapir]

I am aware

[west copper]

He’s joking around

[solid tapir]

I am just explaining my reasoning

[terse dock]

Fib is better than both

Fib solos

[solid tapir]

for the line I suggested

[white zodiac]

perceptive bias idk

[cosmic sun]

their bias is hampering their skill and ability to think

[solid tapir]

again I'm not saying bus is the incorrect line, I think both lines are valid

[nova mantle]

Ik what the expression means but, how is that an advantage in an argument

[solid tapir]

I just find faceless money to be nice paired with flash card

and again, if they didn't sell walkie

it was free early game

[west copper]

It’s not at all lmao, I just clarified I don’t think rtb is worse then flash card

In the scenario presented flash card was at its peak

[wintry ice]

the blueprint sells the faceless line

[west copper]

It’s not

[cosmic sun]

soooo was bus

[nova mantle]

You js calling him dumb now wrap it up unc

[west copper]

He knows it’s not

[terse dock]

Just conjure a fib

[west copper]

Explain how?

[nova mantle]

YEAH ik 😭

[cosmic sun]

well that's true but that was a given

[solid tapir]

I feel like everyone else is just having ooga booga argument over the correct line

[west copper]

Again, I never personally insult others

For no reason like this

Lmao

Mfs will deadass actually go apeshit when you like a card and defend it

[fervent wolf]

I love Erratic Deck

[white zodiac]

i wasn't here early enough to project my play style fully, i just default to how I played when I was doing gs records

[wintry ice]

i really don't see a reason to pass on the insane economy that faceless will give

[solid tapir]

which is fair, you didn't say anything incorrect imho

even without the context

[nova mantle]

What they mean is flash clears rtb in this specific case but they do recognize rtb is better in a situation where both don't have an advantage, they literally said this just earlier

[solid tapir]

bus is a great and safe line

[solid tapir]

yeh

[mighty topaz]

your language looks made up

[solid tapir]

for me it's just better in that situation

[nova mantle]

No reason for arguing

[solid tapir]

BP makes it so much better

[wintry ice]

wygrywasz

[white zodiac]

bp

ok time for me to go to bed

[cursive lion]

why just why

[solid tapir]

gn andolth

[west copper]

Yeah I think the reason why it got toxic was lack of context, they thought I was slandering rtb or something

[terse dock]

Free $12

[white zodiac]

[wintry ice]

guh

[nova mantle]

The image doesn't load do they have balatro in Latin?

[cursive lion]

true

[solid tapir]

temperance value

goated

[wintry ice]

wygrywasz

[mighty topaz]

wygrywasz!

mf got their game in simlish

[terse dock]

Sweden

Finland

Norwegian

One of those

[wintry ice]

no way ian

[cosmic sun]

Did you forget where bus would have the same value with chaos and faceless

[nova mantle]

Yeah exactly, but he got heated so fast tho 😭
"Glazing" and "lack of proper judgement" brosky was acting like they grandpa died in the great flash card war

[solid tapir]

is this still holding the run this argument stemmed from in context

[wintry ice]

blueprint makes flash card go to like +6 per round

[solid tapir]

^ yeah

faceless is better for sure

with flashcard

again they should not have sold walkie talkie

[terse dock]

In my defense

[solid tapir]

if they had walkie talkie then it was just free early game

[cursive lion]

wee pic

[terse dock]

I didn't like the arguments on either side

[solid tapir]

idk me, vic, and andolth were pretty civil

[terse dock]

You were both running 2.6 tu quoque cycle

[west copper]

If you want my honest opinion on flash card minus my jokes about it being the best thing to grace mankind: its average, it’s extremely fun and I personally love playing it tenfold but I never really want to compete with other scalers cause that’s not why I like flash card for and every time flash card hate is brought up it feels forced cause I’m in the convo lol

[winged bolt]

oh my god...i finally understood the game

[nova mantle]

Arguments are dumb we should all love each other

[terse dock]

Fib is the best joker in the game

[cursive lion]

i mean like red card its passive mult gain

[solid tapir]

I mean

it's good

not the best but its good

[terse dock]

Come here and kiss me on my hot mouth

[fervent wolf]

I love ace builds

[nova mantle]

Goated mult

[solid tapir]

I love aces too

[cursive lion]

i love asexual people too

[wintry ice]

imo it's mediocre

[west copper]

Of course I think other scalers either compete with or just destroy it most cases like RTB , I’m not dense I also wanna win runs not throw.

[buoyant crater]

yoo

[cursive lion]

I A M F E E L I N G R O M A N T I C A L

[terse dock]

K

K

[west copper]

Don’t

[solid tapir]

lets not add a third k there

[west copper]

LMAO

[terse dock]

sorry had to hold in the forbidden 3 letters

[cosmic sun]

I mean you don't have a choice in runs sometimes, that run made them choose but obviously you don't ignore flash if you need it

[solid tapir]

mhm

[terse dock]

the other one not the racist ones

[solid tapir]

in that run specifically, faceless is just better

strong econ

great flash card synergy

[cursive lion]

brazilian people really are doing that laugh and you go to hell challange

[solid tapir]

and paired with choas and the deleted walkie talkie

it was genuinely free early game

bus can't catch up to that scaling

[nova mantle]

imfellingromantic

[cursive lion]

at least i got that broken voucher idk why it hasnt been fixed

[solid tapir]

illusion

[cursive lion]

all i am missing for vouchers is liquidation

[west copper]

Wdym broken

It works as intended

[terse dock]

Seals cant appear

[nova mantle]

If you laugh you go to Guantanamo

[west copper]

Wait what??

[terse dock]

Yeah

[solid tapir]

temperance when the stock market collapses

[cursive lion]

don't they not work correctly with seals

[west copper]

Is this a common bug on pc?

[alpine basalt]

FUCK

[west copper]

I didn’t know this

[cursive lion]

guantanamo slay

[alpine basalt]

I meesed up my dusk hand and threw an ante early

[solid tapir]

happens

[terse dock]

It's across all platforms I think

[solid tapir]

gg go next

[white zodiac]

minus the part where it doesn't do the thing you wanted to buy in the first place

[fervent wolf]

I got duo and trio out of back to back regular buffoon pack and then judgement right after in the same shop lol

[alpine basalt]

would've been my new highest ante too, tragic

[solid tapir]

nice

[west copper]

This is actually the first time I’m hearing about this

What like seals just WONT appear on the cards??

At all??

[solid tapir]

Ace 4oak

[terse dock]

Yeah

[white zodiac]

no lol

[cursive lion]

i think it could be a bug when spawning the card with seals should be able to be fixed in the next update

[wintry ice]

free 3oak run

[solid tapir]

4oak pivot right

[cosmic sun]

illusion takers 💀

[solid tapir]

if able

ofc

[wintry ice]

4oak comes later

[white zodiac]

it's been a thing for about a couple years

[nova mantle]

When the clearance sale/liquidation great recession hits:

[solid tapir]

fr

[wintry ice]

3oak is an intermediate hand

[solid tapir]

yeye

[wintry ice]

and can be better if they get burnt or card sharp

[terse dock]

A year and 8 months

[bright tiger]

Magic Trick isn't that popular of a voucher (unless I'm missing something), so I get there not being a rush to fix it's upgrade.

[west copper]

I genuinely never take illusion it’s why I still haven’t gotten c yet (the LAST thing I need)

I am so shocked it’s broken lmao local thunk what the freak

[solid tapir]

true

[cosmic sun]

of course you wouldn't know cause who takes illu with free will outside of unlocks

[nova mantle]

Is 4oak an advanced hand then

[white zodiac]

ok chip dip

[terse dock]

Magic trick is the best voucher set

[cursive lion]

erm... what the flip

[vocal rose]

5oak is an expert hand

[solid tapir]

4oak cuz duo and trio, plus its just stronger than 3oak

[solid tapir]

it's a pivot hand tho

[cursive lion]

magic trick does go hard with hologram

[shell dagger]

Magic trick is the best voucher because it’s magic

[solid tapir]

only holo is the reason I take magic/illusion

[cosmic sun]

marble joker needs more glaze

[nova mantle]

I haven't got that stupid voucher that's the only thing im missing for completionist

[west copper]

Marble joker goated

[white zodiac]

5oak is not a planet scaling hand for it's niche

[solid tapir]

well I did say 4oak

[wintry ice]

they should make a medusa joker that makes all scoring cards stone and scales xmult off of them

[cursive lion]

dawg just get hologram or have a good econ where buying a voucher that you won't use won't break the bank

[solid tapir]

I usually don't do 5oak

[wintry ice]

totally not overpowered

[solid tapir]

cuz unlocking it is annoying

[white zodiac]

wrong ping

[long lark]

blue deck is hard to beat

[cosmic sun]

medusa vampire castlevania ahh build

[wintry ice]

it's one of the easier decks

[west copper]

That’s very op but with tweaking I really do think a xmult stone joker would justify stone builds WAYYY more often

But we gotta focus on wild cards

Holy shit

[white zodiac]

so mida vamp in one

[west copper]

Wild cards man

[cosmic sun]

stone joker should've been xmult ngl

[solid tapir]

no

[wintry ice]

stone is fine as a chip generator

[solid tapir]

yes

[nova mantle]

Medusa + stone joker go hard

[white zodiac]

kinda ruins the flavor if it was

[nova mantle]

Pun intended

[cosmic sun]

if you're generating stones why would you need that many chips

[west copper]

I actually agree

[solid tapir]

because more chips

[west copper]

Ngl

[solid tapir]

is more gooder

[west copper]

Stones already give enough chips

Tho

[cosmic sun]

plasma enjoyer

[solid tapir]

also just because you have stone joker doesn't mean you have marble joker

[nova mantle]

We see your name bro 😭

[solid tapir]

in general more chips is more gooder

[shell dagger]

if you’re generating gold cards why would you need more money ahh question

[lunar zealot]

I'd like a joker that destroys all played and unscored cards for the next like 1-3 hands

[west copper]

More chips does not equal more Econ

[solid tapir]

lmao

[lunar zealot]

that'd be a neat deckfixing option

[west copper]

You’ll never not have enough Econ

In balatro

[white zodiac]

I had a recent niche of using marble, stone and vamp for two of the three scoring source benchmarks

[west copper]

More Econ is always better

[cosmic sun]

gold or chips, hmmm

[lunar zealot]

Just make it expensive

[solid tapir]

immolate premium

[terse dock]

1.8e308 dollars

[cosmic sun]

chip jokers are definitely valuable though

[cursive lion]

my mother and father actually used to have a physical copy of symphony of the night for psx but they probably loaned it off to a friend and never got it back 💀 one of the mom and pop game stores i go to has a copy but it doesn't have its cover and its 100$ for disk itself

[cosmic sun]

I guess I feel like when stone joker comes up, I don't need it at all

[alpine basalt]

the lion levels straight flush with checkered deck, knowing damn well he will never play a straight flush the entire run

[nova mantle]

Actually why hasn't dr spectred ever made a naneinf with only chips that should be pretty easy with plasma deck

[cosmic sun]

Because I usually have chips solved atp

[solid tapir]

if you have like 3-4 stone cards in your deck and it shows up in like ante 3-4, it can be decent chips

[west copper]

I do think maybe stone joker should stay is but a xmult for stones would be very appreciated

(Do I do agree that stone jokers purpose is kinda weird when stones already give enough chips as is)

But again.. stones work in builds unlike FUCKING WILD CARDS

[shell dagger]

not happening in vanilla

[west copper]

LOCAL THUNK PLEASE