🕹・game-discussion

[floral mural]

your choice tho

[civic moth]

The devil always offers good cash

[narrow wadi]

Hardest line I’ve seen today

[acoustic kettle]

With prices today i would take it

[proper flame]

we love using a face card build on abandoned deck

[narrow wadi]

Is there any joker that is always bad to take no matter what?

Idts right

[floral mural]

showman in non endless runs

[proper flame]

No, every joker always has some use, no matter how obscure or unlikely

[narrow wadi]

I’ve picked it up in gold stakes sometimes when I have a couple slots and like photochad- even then I don’t always take

[acoustic kettle]

Seance

[narrow wadi]

I’ve taken seance if I have a suit changing card

[floral mural]

actively harmless if does nothing is what seance is

showman can ruin packs and do nothing good

[acoustic kettle]

Ruins your econ if you buy ut

You do lose money

[narrow wadi]

With a suit changing tarot it’s pretty easy to get off once

I’ve gotten it off a few times in a run before

Sure it’s bad but it’s not unusable

[floral mural]

buying a whole ass joker and tarot for one spectral which are usually bad

isnt something im gonna do

[acoustic kettle]

Best seance hit is what

Immolate

[narrow wadi]

It’s a bad play but it’s a very fun play

[narrow wadi]

Ye

Followed by Deja vu

Very early there’s a lot of good pulls imo

[floral mural]

deja vus not even close to the top tho

blue seals cracked

[narrow wadi]

Idk tbh, all seals other than golds are insane and gold seal is still very good

[floral mural]

(most of my blues come from normal packs tho)

[narrow wadi]

An early seance proc is amazing like 70% of the time

[acoustic kettle]

Taking early seance though

Nah

[proper flame]

couldve saw this coming, lol

[narrow wadi]

In gold stake I only get it from judgement lol

[civic moth]

Dropped this line
Took immolate
Erased holo lucky 2
The devil takes no prisoners

[narrow wadi]

Even when immolate explodes a few good cards it’s still worth imo

I’m proud of my small deck

And the money is huge

[proper flame]

I have now officially beaten every deck I have unlocked on white stakes, and now I need to beat black stakes to unlock the next one

[frank raft]

does anyone want to see my gold stake run

[proper flame]

Only deck I have unlocked with black stakes is Ghost deck, and I am having absolutely NO luck

[civic moth]

Immediately died

[narrow wadi]

Maybe it’s bad in this situation lol

[frank raft]

just grind to gold stake on checkered and then work from there

thats what i did

[floral mural]

is black stakes eternal jokers seem harsh to you?

if so remember that losing a joker slot to live ie better than dying

[frank raft]

no its my favorite stake because eternals can be really helpful

[civic moth]

Tbh might be my fault for trying to go 2s before getting a wee

[narrow wadi]

I find yellow deck the easiest for gold stakes tbh- the most consistent deck imo

[proper flame]

i did not enjoy checkered, personally. Not a flush guy myself

[floral mural]

eternal jokers arent that bad since you learn that you win with 4 jokers or even 3

sometimes

[acoustic kettle]

Plasma🔥

[proper flame]

royal flush build is def possible there though. just dont have the courage for it

[civic moth]

I think my first really good run was on checkers

[floral mural]

so taking an early eternal nothingburger just to survive ante 2 is fine

[frank raft]

objectivevly yellow is the best, i just have a prefrence for checkered and its still really easy

[narrow wadi]

Plasma is the easiest for gold stakes actually ye but I hate playing it’d it’s boring

[proper flame]

Ive had a few runs get to the ante 12 casual filter

[violet bear]

Heck even 2 is doable with good planet scaling

[frank raft]

plasma is my least favorite deck

it was my last gold stake

[ocean yoke]

Tbh i like black deck the most

[civic moth]

0 if you're just built different

[violet bear]

True

[frank raft]

those who've beaten jokerless:

[narrow wadi]

Same, I find most chips jokers boring (obviously there are some fun ones) and +mult being bad most of the time removes a huge part of the game

[frank raft]

yo gang check this out

[violet bear]

I wonder if jokerless is possible with gold stake scaling

[proper flame]

finding an early gold joker makes it a completely normal deck

[frank raft]

i actually like a lot of the chip jokers, but it was just really fucking difficult

[proper flame]

I think that mightve been how i beat it

[violet bear]

[proper flame]

either gold joker or cloud 9, some mid eco joker

[acoustic kettle]

Doc did jokerless gs on black deck

[frank raft]

it took an ante one bull and three invis for me

[acoustic kettle]

[narrow wadi]

Surely possible given red seal glass would win- unseeded would be near impossible tho

[violet bear]

Ofc he did

[frank raft]

jokes on you, this run already ended

[narrow wadi]

Unseeded?

That’s insane if it’s unseeded

[ocean yoke]

yea

[frank raft]

prob filtered

[quartz ember]

yes

[civic moth]

Isn't jokerless always unseeded

[ocean yoke]

gold stake is wild

[violet bear]

despairfade

[civic moth]

Like you can't set the seed yourself

[proper flame]

my fav is probably ghost deck. I love spectral cards

i LOVE getting a free 1.5x mult early

[frank raft]

yea but you cant choose the deck so he just choose to do black deck with no jokers if im not mistaken

[quartz ember]

probably not cause then he wouldnt have lost it

[acoustic kettle]

I love ghost deck free $4

[violet bear]

Consistent immolate consistent immolate comsistent immolate

[frank raft]

we get a little silly

[ocean yoke]

black stake ghost deck ankh hex is so satysying

[frank raft]

i haven't unlocked white stake so all my runs are on gold

[north schooner]

I made a new profile to experiment on plasma deck without polluting my main and this is my first run. wtaf

[ocean yoke]

ah

[civic moth]

Do it

Take the soul

[violet bear]

Nice

[frank raft]

gay banana 😎

[civic moth]

On the wrong banana?

[ocean yoke]

Chicot incoming

[north schooner]

obviously for the meme, but gotta figure out what to sell

[proper flame]

i knew it was gross michael but thought it would be funny, and also extremely early so not the worst idea

[quartz ember]

lol first time i stqrted a new profile I also got a seed with like 2 legendaries

[north schooner]

Already beat the plant

[civic moth]

Obby

[north schooner]

so probably

[frank raft]

whats the funny seed, its aleeb or something right i can never remember

[civic moth]

No one likes Obby

[north schooner]

EXCUSE ME?!

[north schooner]

gtfo

[civic moth]

Did I stutter

[frank raft]

i personally dont like ob myself

but its fine

[acoustic kettle]

Obby is the best

Fr

[civic moth]

Pretty sure it's ALEEB yeah

Maybe like ALEEB1 or something

[frank raft]

why are we lying

[civic moth]

I'd take HRT over Obby

Obby is just stupid

[proper flame]

Question for those in chat: What's your favorite 'bad' joker? As in, a joker you know is not great but it's saved you once or you just enjoy it's weird playstyle

[civic moth]

HRT knows what it wants to be

[frank raft]

guys i forgot i have an alt that has royal flush as the most played hand

[frank raft]

throwback

rewards my gambling

[acoustic kettle]

Smh

[frank raft]

throwback is hands down my favorite joker and its not close

[north schooner]

welp

[frank raft]

never in my 2000 hours of balatro have i ever had nearly as much fun as i do with throwback

[rough trout]

what do i build around fibonacci? Hack is one of, but what else

[north schooner]

The stats for this profile are going to be hilarious

[civic moth]

Certificate surprisingly

[buoyant fog]

guys do I trade something for paradolia here?

[frank raft]

scholar

[buoyant fog]

like ride the bus?

[frank raft]

bus probably

[buoyant fog]

its only at 3 mult rn

[violet bear]

Matador. The dopamine shot you get into a boss that allows the sweet sweet free 32 dollars is incredible

[buoyant fog]

aight

[civic moth]

I know it's ass but I recently gave it a chance and it gave me a fun run

[floral mural]

certificate is good actually

[frank raft]

certificate is so funny

[civic moth]

Uhh

[buoyant fog]

shit guys do I take ecto or cryptid here

[floral mural]

eternal is risky but getting like 2 blue seals is good

[civic moth]

Does Walkie count as bad

[floral mural]

and then you sell it

[frank raft]

ecto grah

[buoyant fog]

aight

[frank raft]

imma be really sad if its constilation

[violet bear]

Eternal poly ankhed certificate was one of the funniest runs i ever had on ghost

[proper flame]

Oh wow I just found my first ever winning run joker lineup. Lmao what is this

[acoustic kettle]

That's supernova

[frank raft]

i got close to a negative eternal ghost deck run with stencil but i died a little too early

[violet bear]

Absolutely deranged and stupid builds but blue seals carry

[frank raft]

same thing

[proper flame]

was a straight flush run it seems

[violet bear]

Egg buckler mentioned

[acoustic kettle]

Hmm yes+3 mult per round

[floral mural]

the thing about cert is that every seal has a use you can give then

red seals can be gold cards for example

and the rest are cash deck fixing or blue seals being cracked

[violet bear]

And blue seals can also be gold cards, and not discarded purple seals can also be gold cards

[proper flame]

Need to try a high card Holo+Certificate+DNA run soon. I want to have a 120 card deck filled with stupid crap

[civic moth]

Do I dedicate a slot to 1$ passive income 🥴

[acoustic kettle]

Red card value

Skip

[civic moth]

Erm

[north schooner]

What a pretty card

[civic moth]

That's red deck

NOT red card

[violet bear]

Hmm yes, the ace-7 straight

[solid garden]

matador
works on so little bosses, but when it hits, it hits big time

[violet bear]

🤝

[acoustic kettle]

Matador isn't bad really

What makes it bad is it isn't clear what the requirement is

[solid garden]

so true

[buoyant fog]

we win these

[proper flame]

real question does matador give its reward per card against the tooth, or is it once per hand

[narrow wadi]

Ride the bus

[floral mural]

matador is badly described not bad value unfortunately that makes it annoying

[civic moth]

Idk why they're reworking Matador when Luchador is still going to exist

[violet bear]

Yeah its good just situational and kinda annoying to figure

[floral mural]

ride the bus is good actually

[proper flame]

elite abandoned deck jonkler, if im thinking of the right one

[floral mural]

like real good

[acoustic kettle]

Lucha is fine

[civic moth]

I hate RTB

[acoustic kettle]

Like what do you mean

[dense star]

Its like protection

Yk

[civic moth]

Because I keep forgetting I have it

[narrow wadi]

I wouldn’t go that far, maybe it’s not bad but it’s a mid joker at best

[civic moth]

So I accidentally play high cards and reset it

[solid garden]

do you hate grimbo too per chance

[civic moth]

Groker yes

[acoustic kettle]

Rtb is non revertible grimbo

[civic moth]

I NEED my discards

[acoustic kettle]

And grimbo is better supernova

[proper flame]

mystic summit for me is a conditionless +15(?) mult since I always use all my discards every time

[floral mural]

its an easy condition for a flat mult scaler which makes it great on gold stake

[proper flame]

The only times i dont are when i find my round winning lineup, when Im trying to get delayed gratification money, or when i have none

[narrow wadi]

If you have rebate or purples you wanna use hands for discards but still ur at 0 before u play ur scoring hand

[floral mural]

where flst mult scaling is consistent with how many options there js

[solid garden]

is there a c++ spreadsheet? I'm too lazy to recount my gold stickers every time

[acoustic kettle]

Grimbo is already top tier

Rtb

Mm

[hybrid tendon]

I love rtb

It's awesome

[narrow wadi]

I pick it up a lot for this reason but it’s slow to get going, loses you money in early antes and has a lot of anti synergy

[floral mural]

its not money loss youre paying 1 dollar for 1 mult gurranteed

thats good

[hybrid tendon]

Doesn't have that many anti-synergy actually

[acoustic kettle]

What is grimbo anti synergy

Mystic summit

Yorick

[floral mural]

grimbo doesnt become unusable with those btw

[hybrid tendon]

Anyways, gotta go to work

[acoustic kettle]

Yeah

[narrow wadi]

Any purple seal, rebate, the flag one, having golds/ steels to look for/ having any card to look for

[hybrid tendon]

Baiiii

[acoustic kettle]

You can dig into your deck with hands

Also having grimbo scale +2 instead of +4 isn't that bad

[north schooner]

casual temperance value

[acoustic kettle]

Why does discount voucher ruin temp value smh

Thunk i'm gonna throw hands

[buoyant fog]

we got endless potential here

polychrome 4oak ftw

sheeeeeesh

negatives there for temperance atp LMAO

[north schooner]

Tradeoffs for everything

[floral mural]

hook is bad for grimbo as well but losing one round of scalinf instead of an actual boss effect is also good

usually

[north schooner]

I know I should probably take Chad but...

chips and mult in one joker isn't bad either

[vocal rose]

egg be doing that by itself fr

[proper flame]

Egg is so fun tbh

I always take it egg if i have an open slot

Can win the game if you hold onto it for a while and sell it for ~30

[north schooner]

I know we've established this is a lucky run, but this is ridiculous

[vocal rose]

you should always

egg is just a free value gen

[ocean yoke]

wild

[buoyant fog]

is smiley better than nova here?

[ocean yoke]

this morning I had a run that got these 2 polychromes by the wheel

[steep iron]

thats chico

i really want to sell him

[half nexus]

ante 10 smiley pivot is insane

[buoyant fog]

LOL

idk man

[half nexus]

depends on your deck and hand stats though

[buoyant fog]

well...

[half nexus]

what ru playing

[buoyant fog]

mostly 4oaks if I can help it

trying to thin out deck

not ebough hanged man in arcanas tho

I have polychrome 4's

[half nexus]

it’s ante 10 anyway unless you have a billion steels the runs dead in a few rounds

[buoyant fog]

yeah I really dont have enough steel rn

unfortunate

[half nexus]

i think the way to make that run last was pivot to high card and spam steel

[buoyant fog]

hmmmmm

I can sure try

[half nexus]

red seal steel with mime will take you far

prob too late unless you get a cryptid or insane death luck but gl!

[buoyant fog]

thanks bro

PETROGLYPH FTW

[half nexus]

play 4oak until you get high card leveled

[buoyant fog]

okok

wait a minute

what about sock?

would that be a stupid pivot?

[north schooner]

I'm never touching this profile again

[buoyant fog]

I think sock pivot was a good choice

[buoyant fog]

LOL

[pale grotto]

Where did my hand size goes :(

[acoustic kettle]

Build of all time

[spiral cairn]

balala gods ate

it

[full iris]

baron putting in work

[mortal nimbus]

did you use Ouija at all?

[manic talon]

Dies to psychic turbo

[shadow mortar]

Hi, inside blueprint(the website to scan seeds), what is the meaning of judgement card 7? So do I have to use 7 judgements in that ante to get the desired card?

And also, what does SpectralPack card 1 ectoplasm mean? In both the spectral packs in that ante, there is no ectoplasm.

[ocean yoke]

oh mah gah this build is peak

[valid abyss]

fun fact

stuntman has a sell option

save the run™

[pine swift]

Skipped all 4 blinds in ante 7 anf 8 just to win it with remaining 2 rounds on my photo 🤣

[iron plank]

photochad (derogatory)

[ocean yoke]

hehe

[iron plank]

grr

[ocean yoke]

for the shits and giggles

[ocean lily]

4TFWFFRQ ante 1 rare skip bp, next shop spectral pac ankh, and later you can get photo and an invis (in ante 9 i think is hanging chad)

have fun

[iron plank]

fire build

[ocean yoke]

dead doe

wait

maybe npt

nvm

alive

[iron plank]

a rollercoaster of emotions

[ocean yoke]

now i need the diamond

[iron plank]

brother is collecting the infinity stones

[ocean yoke]

dead

oh well

still fir

[rugged umbra]

you need econ bro 😈

get that diamond

[ocean yoke]

dead

[pale wolf]

im here

you can finally calm down

[brave bobcat]

do i sell something here

[muted finch]

Did you guys play on Mobil or PC?

[brave bobcat]

and if yes what

[pale wolf]

im android exclusive

[muted finch]

I find it annoying that you can't transfer your account from mobile to PC. Is there any way I can still do this?

[pale wolf]

are you on Android?

[muted finch]

nope iPhone/iPad

but i bought in on Steam bc i thought i can play with the same Account xd

[pale wolf]

there's no way to legitimately retrieve the game files from Apple, only Google Play lets you retrieve your saved games data

and I think every faq relating to the game specifies that there's no cross saves

[runic linden]

Guys i got a question

[pale wolf]

The files definitely exist it just takes more technical know-how and they're formatted slightly differently

[muted finch]

Do you think it will come?

[pale wolf]

uuuuhm perhaps... throughout all of the updates for potential features we might get in the future, I haven't heard thunk specifically say anything about cross saves but I assume it's a priority because so many people want it

[runic linden]

You already have the voucher Retcon and at ante 8 the shop give the voucher Hieroglyph, if you change the boss then it's a "big" boss reroll or you'll get classics boss ?

[pale wolf]

I believe you keep rerolling the final boss, not the normal boss

Not 100% on that

[pale wolf]

also, since you can freely edit your game files on steam, you could just make your profile more or less the exact same as your mobile

It's just transferring back to mobile that would be impossible

[muted finch]

wait, how can i do that?

[pale wolf]

there's save editors online you can find

[muted finch]

can u send me dm with a link if u have one?

[runic linden]

You know if you take it (so go back to ante 7), at ante 8 it will be final boss too ?

[pale wolf]

I don't have one, you would have to do the same search as me

[muted finch]

ok ty

[pale wolf]

You know what no actually, I seem to remember that unless the ante is specifically displaying 8 , if you reroll you will get normal bosses like serpent, wall, etc

You would have to get the glyph voucher in ante 9 (turns into ante 8) to then reroll for final bosses like Crimson heart twice

[mortal nimbus]

yeah, rerolling on ante 8n gives finisher bosses

rerolling on any other ante gives normal bosses

[runic linden]

Okay thanks

[tranquil cedar]

the ever so evil antes 16 and 24:

[mortal nimbus]

😔

[runic linden]

If anyone asking i'm ante 24 going for naneinf i got the 5 classics shits (dna baron mime blueprint brainstorm) another brainstorm and a showman i just go back from 24 to 23 and shop give another baron i don't know if i have to take it to survive or spend all money for blueprint

[pale wolf]

ive gathered balatro friends of great knowledge and experience to fact check my future video content

they will work for free

[runic linden]

thanks to you guys i go for another snake

[pale wolf]

for the good of the game, you see

[hearty warren]

exploiting friends for content sounds fun

[pale wolf]

its a tale as old as time

[pale wolf]

nice

[north schooner]

I threw this run on ante 16 btw, should have added one more glass and I would have been fine

[pale wolf]

That's not a run that's a stat screen

[north schooner]

It's the stat screen from an initial run on a new profile

[pale wolf]

oh i see

[north schooner]

I made a new profile to experiment with some things and accidentally ended up with obby, constellation, and 3 legendaries.

By a15 I had a blueprint, and idol, and the idol would have been online by a16 if I hadn't messed that up (and also remembered to copy the perkeo)

It's not my highest score either, it's just very silly

[pale grotto]

Yes 1 time It gave me J

[shell mica]

this is after the first round of ante 2 btw

card sharp and brainstorm in the first shop, invis in the second and blueprint in the third

[pale grotto]

Looks great

[shell mica]

before the first round*

possibly the best first ante ever

[pale wolf]

ugh i have to take a rental jimbo

[lament crater]

today is the day i get C

hopefully

[craggy gale]

This is a surprisingly hard decision ngl

Do I take this just in case needle (current ante boss blind)

[jagged torrent]

Not the eternal rental jimbo 😔 💔

[lament crater]

are you going for endless?

[craggy gale]

Not really with this build ngl

You know what would be hilarious
Winning with showman

[lament crater]

it would

[craggy gale]

But perishable

[lament crater]

honestly

how i know it to be

everytime i take smth double by showman and sell him

he appears in the next shop

js for fun

but that may only be me

[craggy gale]

Yeah idk
I guess I’ll take this just in case needle/violet vessel

Just to make sure I get a win or something idk

This ain’t going into endless lmao

[lament crater]

you wont have showman anyways in a few rounds so its better to sell him now and get the photo

[craggy gale]

True

[craggy gale]

Welp guess what

[lament crater]

fucking knew it 😭

[lament crater]

it has to be hardcoded atp with how often i've seen it

[rugged bloom]

chat what was that one mod/link that allows you to look for particular seeds with whatever you want?

[lament crater]

there are multiple

there's brainstorm and there's immolate

[rugged bloom]

brainstorm is very specific

hmmm

i think it was immolate

[lament crater]

https://github.com/SpectralPack/Immolate

https://github.com/OceanRamen/Brainstorm

[latent egret]

rare bp skip (im playing straight flushes)

[willow frost]

you wouldnt replace bloodstone?

[calm sapphire]

exactly

[quartz ember]

yea probably 3x always +2x money gen is better than 3x sometimes

[bleak hemlock]

👏

i love this game 💀

[stray barn]

AA

ABOUT TIME I FIND ONE

[bleak hemlock]

what is it

[stray barn]

anyways, what do i replace here?

[bleak hemlock]

uh

[stray barn]

i havent taken it yet

ill prolly replace misprint

[bleak hemlock]

hows your score?

[willow frost]

yeah do that

[bleak hemlock]

if you are scoring well over then misprint else rough gem

[stray barn]

i get roughly 10k per hand right now

[willow frost]

theyre fine its ante 3 and they have good jokers

[stray barn]

its not amazing but its decent

[lunar zealot]

Bye blue

[stray barn]

its green stake tbf

NO WAY

[torn drift]

is localthunk c++?

[stray barn]

I GOT PERKEO

[lunar zealot]

at this point you can just spam pairs and win

[bleak hemlock]

pog

[willow frost]

that pretyy good

[bleak hemlock]

perkeoign it hard

[lunar zealot]

find like an xmult joker literally anything works

[slender creek]

ante 4 game over incoming

[lunar zealot]

if you find constell dupe high priestess

etc etc

[stray barn]

IM DUPING FUCKING FAMILIAR

OH MY GOD

[lunar zealot]

do you have hologram?

[pale wolf]

todays balatrodle in 3
spoiler tag ur spoilers

[stray barn]

okay i 1 rounded that one

[stray barn]

not yet i dont know what to try and get

im like

too nervous

[lunar zealot]

Hahahaha fuck you zebra i got it in 2

[stray barn]

ive never gotten a legendary goher

joker

[lunar zealot]

For now dupe temperance and hermit

[stray barn]

shit true

[pale wolf]

fake

[stray barn]

but i need to find it first

[lunar zealot]

Perkeo gives insane levels of econ

once you have money you have creative mode

and can just reroll for anything

[bleak hemlock]

i love men

[pale wolf]

🤬

[lunar zealot]

;3

[pale wolf]

crying rn

[pale wolf]

clearly

[hearty warren]

i can get today's in 1 with this information

[lunar zealot]

Shut up ham nobody asked

[hearty warren]

:(

[stray barn]

im so scared to lose this

[hearty warren]

i'll beat you up kami

[bleak hemlock]

i love ghost deck

[pale wolf]

camkam

[hearty warren]

throwing hands,

[lunar zealot]

You're fine it's green stake

a perkeo run on green stake is only losable on black deck or if you're REALLY REALLY stupid

[stray barn]

okay what do i replace right now

i 100% need to replace somethjiong with photo

[balmy ridge]

does anyone know if i take baseball card here?

[bleak hemlock]

blue

[bleak hemlock]

stencil is uncommon no?

[balmy ridge]

yeah

[lunar zealot]

photo without chad?

[lunar zealot]

6 x 6 = 36

5 x 1.5 x 5 x 1.5 =

[hearty warren]

yes because 2.25 × 25 is larger than 36 last i checked

[lunar zealot]

Uhhhhhhh

[willow frost]

thats better

[lunar zealot]

Like 50 or somethint

[stray barn]

i dont have chad yet

[lunar zealot]

57

[willow frost]

5x1.5 is 7.5

[balmy ridge]

ok dickhead

[stray barn]

i just need it for now anyways

[hearty warren]

how am i a dickhead

???

[stray barn]

is it worth taking pareidolia rn

[lunar zealot]

girl was literally trying to help you but ok

[stray barn]

i just rolled it

[lunar zealot]

#men

[bleak hemlock]

guys.. please help.. what will the turned down cards be?

[stray barn]

my gros michel just died

[lunar zealot]

Stone card

[bleak hemlock]

oh nnoooooooooo

[willow frost]

wrathful joker

[lunar zealot]

also you might lose if you draw the non glass

You need to convert some to steel to survive too

[hearty warren]

sun card,

[bleak hemlock]

im scoring e20

[lunar zealot]

Yeah not enough

[torn drift]

how do i do a baron build

or a infinite build

where i have to do nothing

[hearty warren]

what does doing nothing entail

[bleak hemlock]

uh

[stray barn]

im so done i lost it

[lunar zealot]

mf how

[torn drift]

i mean i play random card and i win

[bleak hemlock]

wur

[stray barn]

i couldnt get a mult card

to save me

U93JR5RJ is the seed

[hearty warren]

theoretically you just pull baron round 2 and then erratic deck all kings

[lunar zealot]

Should have been selling your negative familiars for money

[torn drift]

like with baron+ mime+ redseal glass kings deck u do nothing

[bleak hemlock]

you still have to play the game

and it takes a lot of work to setup

[torn drift]

ok but u understand what i mean

[hearty warren]

oh baron mime uses gold into steel

[torn drift]

yeah

[hearty warren]

glass is more a flush five thing

[torn drift]

one time i had photchad + blueprint

[hearty warren]

you just look for red seals in standard packs and spectrals while you fix everything into kings and then buy baron and mime

you need lots of econ and temp scoring

it's good to fix kings early because you can rebate them with copy jokers for like $15 a card

[bleak hemlock]

tbe rare double idol

[lunar zealot]

Do you want my seed

I6RIIAA1

this has ante 1 perkeo

you can find blueprint, seance that gives cryptid, baron, brainstorm and mime pretty easily

just try to survive

[torn drift]

nice

[lunar zealot]

And keep opening standard packs to find a red seal jack

[torn drift]

ok ill try it later

[lunar zealot]

Focus on money above anything else and try to survive

I believe you find stuntman in that seed so use it until you can pivot to baron safely

[torn drift]

i didnt unlocked stuntman

i think

or maybe yes

[lunar zealot]

then it'll be replaced in the pool by another rare

Which is bad because you need stuntman to survive

[torn drift]

why is stuntman good?

is 250 chips that good

also u have -2 hands

[mortal nimbus]

handsize, not hands

handsize matters less when you don't care what hands you play

[lunar zealot]

You need to survive genius

[mortal nimbus]

250 chips allows you to play any hand

[lunar zealot]

How can you get a baron run going if you die before you get the baron run going

[mortal nimbus]

any hand that you draw that is

[lunar zealot]

that's why you need stuntman because it gives 125 x 125

[willow frost]

youre playing plasma deck ideally, 250 chips will get you like 15000 per hand

[lunar zealot]

And you find blueprint too so that's 250 x 250

[hearty warren]

stuntman plasma 😋

[torn drift]

oh

[hearty warren]

any large chips joker is the pillar of surviving plasma

bull is pretty strong if your econ is strong

[lament crater]

bull + delayed gratification 🙏

no need to use discards when you can js play anything

[lunar zealot]

bull + any econ joker actually

[hearty warren]

rebate <3

[lunar zealot]

Except very specifically like

Credit card

[barren wigeon]

I have almost every joker unlocked

All I need is perkeo and onyx agate

[pale wolf]

chaos, astronomer

bull is fun

[hearty warren]

i can see bull + chaos

if you have overstock+ and tarot tycoon or something

[barren wigeon]

why is bull considered great and bootstraps considered mid

[hearty warren]

i think the context of bull discussion rn is plasma where chips are just bigger number

[barren wigeon]

true

[narrow wadi]

is this an eternal red card angle? like i hate the joker so much cos i wanna be taking things in packs but like round 1 is it even good?

[hearty warren]

but bull is still better because bootstraps get outclassed by loads of scaling +mult

[barren wigeon]

it definitely isnt bad

[narrow wadi]

didn't say it was bad, said i hated it

[barren wigeon]

there's a lot of times where you wouldn't take something anyways and you get mult for it

[lunar zealot]

Because +chips jokers are less prevalent overall and bull is more forgiving

Think about it bull gives +2 chips for every $1

straps gives +2 mult for every $5

[hearty warren]

you can just see skip as an option for when you pull no good consumabls

[lunar zealot]

Oh i have a whole thing for this

red card makes every pack useful in some way---in an ideal world you will open every pack every shop, and not all of them will have hanged man, a joker you want, immolate, mercury, etc etc
in this sense red card contributes as both a scoring (helping you win) joker and as a utility (gives dud packs the ability to still contribute to scoring) joker
helping matters is its +mult per pack skipped, and comparing the overall +mult to its peers, green joker and ride the bus
the latter 2 gain +1 mult per hand; on most decks that is 12 mult per ante; in contrast, red card is +18 mult per ante should you skip all 6 packs per ante
However this +6 mult is often not seen much as a straight upside in terms of mult per ante because rarely do you ever skip every pack in a given ante; in this sense it should be thought of as a buffer to let you weigh what packs to skip and which ones to take, as overall red card has more variance in favor of it gaining mult compared to its peers due to that fact
overall red card simply covers a very solid utility niche of making every pack opened useful whether it be through offering the card you want, or by giving +mult to red card (and it cannot be overstated that a niche like this is Very Good) while also being a good scaling +mult joker in its own right

[hearty warren]

if you open 20 boosters and half of them are bad you get +30 mult

[barren wigeon]

bad planets seem to come up for me a lot

[hearty warren]

with red card you don't even car when you pull mercury (unless chips)

[narrow wadi]

this is a lot of words, i'm gonna assume this is just saying it's good and i take it here

[barren wigeon]

yeah take it

[narrow wadi]

i rarely use it cos i hate using it, i get it's probably good

[hearty warren]

admittedly it did feel bad initially to skip packs

[lunar zealot]

Fuck no

[hearty warren]

by initially i mean

wehn you first learn red card

[lunar zealot]

I started playing this game since february

i've liked red card day 1

because of the logical conclusion that sometimes packs fucking suck

[hearty warren]

girlie you're built different

[barren wigeon]

my erratic deck has 12 queens

wtf

[lunar zealot]

Yes yes i know im perfect

[narrow wadi]

i feel like i'm pretty good, i just don't take red card cos it messes with my early econ a lot and the scaling isn't even that strong unless ur skipping 2 packs a round

[lunar zealot]

it is strong lol

[cloud sinew]

what

You're delusional

[lunar zealot]

Bus is absurdly good and it's +4 mult per round

[hearty warren]

there's probably some psychology involved with skipping

[lunar zealot]

Lilo 😭 simmer down

[narrow wadi]

i think this is it tbh

[hearty warren]

😭

[narrow wadi]

it feels bad to use for me

i get that's illogical

[lunar zealot]

I mean on gold stake especially it gets exacerbated by bad eternals/perishables/rentals

like do you really wanna take eternal wrathful

[barren wigeon]

i hate the hook

lowers my grimbos

[hearty warren]

just trust the logical move and it eventually feels really strong

[cloud sinew]

I was completely fine when they were talking about preferences... but saying it's not that strong is NOT a preference

[lunar zealot]

Okay fair fair

[narrow wadi]

i can be wrong, i haven't used it cos i don't find it fun lol. now it's eternal so i guess i have to fully work out how strong it is

[lunar zealot]

like a given pack is always gonna have a dud eventually

That's just statistics

[cloud sinew]

If you haven't used it then you are almost definitely wrong about it

[lunar zealot]

You will get an arcana pack with star/lovers/empress

[hearty warren]

oh red card tips

[barren wigeon]

negative astronomer

[lunar zealot]

you will get a buffoon pack with perishable rental faceless and eternal egg

[hearty warren]

getting $25 means only skipping/opening exactly enough to win the next round

[barren wigeon]

i used to pray for times like this

[lunar zealot]

you will get a spectral pack with ouija/aura

[narrow wadi]

i thought it was good but not super strong which is what i wrote as my intuition- is this some top tier joker i've been ignoring?

[hearty warren]

once you get $25 you can go crazy with the packs

[cloud sinew]

yes

[lunar zealot]

Girl i literally just posted an entire writeup about red card

did you not read it

[hearty warren]

red card is top tier yes

[narrow wadi]

a lot of words in a very fast moving chat lol, i skimmed it. Making all packs have a value isn't a defined power level

i get the reasoning

[lunar zealot]

Nothing in this game is defined

[narrow wadi]

i just meant i could read all that without knowing how strong it is

[hearty warren]

red card is a source of stability in opening packs

[narrow wadi]

this is what i do every game so i guess i just play normally

[lunar zealot]

no other joker provides that utility

red card is the only one to

[red thistle]

Seems like i haven't lost my touch. (the last round last reroll blueprint cracked me up lmao)

[hearty warren]

even hallucination is only a 50/50 and it doesn't even guarantee a good tarot

[narrow wadi]

being unique doesn't mean good (i don't mean to argue sorry i get that my initial assessment of the joker was very wrong and it is very good) this is just about me reading the long text and still not knowing

mr bones is unique

[quick salmon]

Said it once I’ll say it again, I find matador completely fine as is and not confusing/hard to grasp

[hearty warren]

and hallucination is already good value for something you should already be doing in your runs

[narrow wadi]

i love hallucination

my favourite joker is 8 ball tbh

[lunar zealot]

Ah this one time i had an 8 ball run

[hearty warren]

if you like hallucination you'll LOVE red card

[lunar zealot]

5 hits in a row

literally

i shit you not

[narrow wadi]

imma get both

[narrow wadi]

it feels so good

chad 8 ball is my favourite

[hearty warren]

both is great

[narrow wadi]

photochad overrated, 8chad is where it's at

[barren wigeon]

i love hallucination!!!

[hearty warren]

chadball is pretty funny

[lunar zealot]

Stupid dumb idiot thinks he's a bunny

Everyone laugh at him

[narrow wadi]

paredolia, sock, chad, all 6s, splash (and obviously blueprint/ brainstorm) all synergise with 8ball tho tbf i've only ever done 8chad

[red thistle]

Don't be mean to him.

[lunar zealot]

he has no brain

[hearty warren]

if you're getting 2 other jokers to enable 8ball retriggers i think you'll have to be overscoring quite a bit

[balmy ridge]

14/15 gold stakes done!!!!!!!!!! only green deck left!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[hearty warren]

(talking about pareidolia sock)

[barren wigeon]

why is green deck last lmao

[balmy ridge]

post-nut clarity

i said this already

[lunar zealot]

We should put all the regulars here on a tier list

[hardy fable]

I'm just unlocking jokers currently trying to get agate

[lunar zealot]

s tier is definitely stuntgoat

f tier is definitely zebra

[hearty warren]

zebra catching strays 💔

[narrow wadi]

on round 2 shop i got mercury in celestial pack, like that's the best planet but do i still skip for red card?

i have no other scoring

[balmy ridge]

zbra overwatch????

[hardy fable]

idk I hate math

[narrow wadi]

so red card +3 gives me +1$

assuming i get out a hand earlier

[shrewd bluff]

I swear whenever I use one of the skips for special joker I get some shit like this

[balmy ridge]

yeauh

mercury is +1 mult red card is +3

[hearty warren]

skipping gives you more scoring

[narrow wadi]

ite cool

[pale wolf]

guh

[lunar zealot]

HE DESERVES THEM

[narrow wadi]

ty for the help, i'm new to not skipping red card lol

[lunar zealot]

Im obviously also s tier

[white zodiac]

+15 chips

[barren wigeon]

wait can you not unlock onyx agate on erratic deck

[pale wolf]

you can

[white zodiac]

you can

[hearty warren]

you need 30 clubbers

just get a 20 club seed and start mooning

[barren wigeon]

i have 30 cards with club suit in my deck

where is my unlock

[hearty warren]

you might have to turn more clubs or finish a run

[narrow wadi]

i was more thinking between do i go for what's good rn and skip or take pluto which is probably better for like ante 8, tho cos it's orange stake surely i just go for rn

[barren wigeon]

bc that's literally the last unlock I need (besides the perkelater)

[narrow wadi]

in gold stake i always go for rn and that tends to work

[pale wolf]

wilds do count iirc

but smeared doesnt

[barren wigeon]

my morals restrict me from using wild cards

[pale wolf]

or something

[hearty warren]

wild cards are funny

[barren wigeon]

they need to make wild cards seperate from enhancements

[hearty warren]

i like hearing castle sound effect

[barren wigeon]

because who is taking a wild card over 4 mult, 30 chips, or a gold or steel card

[narrow wadi]

i had a run recently where blackboard didn't proc with all spades and clubs in hand other than a wild 8 of diamonds

idk if that's a glitch

if that's how it works it's dumb

[barren wigeon]

id rather have a stone card than a wild card

[white zodiac]

castle and ramen share the same sound effect

[narrow wadi]

my deck for my last run

[white zodiac]

debuffed wilds will count as the original suit for leaf and card debuff bosses

[barren wigeon]

double stoned up on a Sunday morning

[narrow wadi]

might've been that idr

[white zodiac]

it's most def that

[narrow wadi]

my joker lineup was crazy, 2 jokers i normally auto skip when i see but very fun

this was the lineup

stone joker was at +450

[white zodiac]

I missed out on a stone joker sticker recently on black deck

[hardy fable]

beautiful

[narrow wadi]

stone joker better than marble generally imo

like marble joker is almost always bad

cos u don't wanna bloat a deck with stone cards most of the time (and spend a slot on it)

[white zodiac]

marble is technically chip scaling

[narrow wadi]

with like 4 stones in ur deck from tarots stone joker is already good

[barren wigeon]

oh nvm just got agate

[narrow wadi]

i was surprised how having like 25 stone cards didn't make it much harder to find pairs so honestly maybe it's not even that bad to bloat with it

[barren wigeon]

cool all jokers unlocked (except for one...)

[narrow wadi]

+150 chips per pair hand is pretty huge

the stone, marble, hologram synergy was cool af tho. not a trio i ever thought of using but was a near free win

[white zodiac]

it doesn't make pairs that much harder to find as much as value cards via gold cards/blue seals

[narrow wadi]

this is true, i wouldn't pick marble joker without hologram generally

or driver's license if i was a few off i guess

[barren wigeon]

i guess ill just do yellow deck white stake and try to unlock stuff

or discover stuff at least

[neat ore]

Guys I actually did it

[hearty warren]

marble joker is a social experiment

[neat ore]

I made the first ever hit the road build

[barren wigeon]

I had a perfect hit the road build, but i didnt have it unlocked yet

sadness

[neat ore]

I'm the only hit the road lover

[white zodiac]

I've had a few of those

[neat ore]

Ok maybe love is too strong of a word but

Ya know what I mean

[barren wigeon]

correct

[shell dagger]

3 streak, featuring grimbo WR

[winter pike]

🙂

[shell dagger]

yippee

[neat ore]

Congrats!

Now do it on gold stake

[winter pike]

im alright thanks

[hardy fable]

yippe seeing double unlocked, astronomer and htr is left

[coarse silo]

Naneinf in its purest form

[hardy fable]

8 forgot to get Andy and wee

they're easy

[neat ore]

Stuntman

[hardy fable]

the best

[neat ore]

How about try doin it with the idol now?

[neat ore]

Are 5 copies of stuntman good?!??!

[winter pike]

naneinf with idol?

[lament crater]

fuck you game, i wanna joker hunt and you give me a setup that's too good...

[hardy fable]

ofc

[neat ore]

Rumor on the street says that people in Hollywood actually did it

[neat ore]

Try to naneif with only stuntman

Or scratch that

Just chips jokers

[lament crater]

lmao

[barren wigeon]

SEANCE UNLOCKED

or discovered

[shell dagger]

youd need like e153 hand size for stuntman naneinf

[winter pike]

i dont believe the rumours

[lament crater]

i need to discover lucky cat...

[neat ore]

That's not too bad

Imma try that

[lunar zealot]

Bye triboule

jk

[lament crater]

this game hates me, the one time i try to get my jokers up, it gives me a good setup

[lunar zealot]

bye mime

[neat ore]

It's actually true I heard tho I heard ya need hit the road for it to work

[lament crater]

mime is good for money since i have like tons of gold cards

[winter pike]

hmmm, im doubtful

[lunar zealot]

Bye photo

photo is just bad trib

And trib is just good idol

and idol is just bad aj

And aj is good bloodstone

and bloodstone is bad photo

I have now explained every single on-scored xmult joker

[winter pike]

trib > aj > idol > photo > bloodstone (?)

[shell dagger]

no

[hardy fable]

htr unlocked astronomer wee and Andy left

[neat ore]

What's aj

Or am I just stupid

[winter pike]

ancient joker

[lunar zealot]

huh?

[lament crater]

now i can js do stuff like this...

[winter pike]

based on what you said thatd be the ranking of them

[lunar zealot]

is it?

Hold on uhhh

[neat ore]

Honestly I'd replace ancient joker with a speculative oops

[hardy fable]

I do need to play flush house tho

[white zodiac]

that's not an xmult joker

[neat ore]

Oh then replace it with my Boi hit the road

[shell dagger]

Not onscore

[white zodiac]

that's not an on card score x mult joker

[hardy fable]

who needs x mult when you get the best chip joker

[hearty warren]

stuntman

[lunar zealot]

Trib > aj > photo > bloodstone > idol

Photo is bad trib which is good idol which is bad aj which is good bloodstone which is bad photo

[shell dagger]

Does the transitive property apply

Is photo bad aj

[lunar zealot]

Idk

[neat ore]

Honestly I'd rather use a chip joker over a x mult joker

[white zodiac]

[hearty warren]

porque no los dos

[hardy fable]

🤔 what deck should I use to get flush 5

[hearty warren]

stuntman blackboard 😋

[hearty warren]

abandoned my beloved

[hardy fable]

take it for the speculative aj trust

les gooo one more till astronomer

[lament crater]

e before endless 🙏

[rose wolf]

i hate when i get an eternal stencil and in the spectral packs i get everything BUT ankh

[past nebula]

Glorious jokers i got while dokng five card draw vhallenge

[acoustic kettle]

Hc photochad

[lament crater]

mime?

drop lucky cat and go for steel?

[tacit quail]

rate the run start

[narrow wadi]

with tribb steel builds aren't as good cos u wanna play 5

u need to get that deck smaller tho

[tacit quail]

76$ round 1 is fucking stupid

power of 25$ and free shop

[acoustic kettle]

Hm yes perishable throwback

[lament crater]

i haven't got anything to thin my deck rn

[tacit quail]

PEAK?

[lament crater]

red seal steel queen

[narrow wadi]

tbf lucky cat isn't great for high scores so mime might be better, but with a tribb u generally wanna be going for flush 5

i do like lucky cat with retriggers but high scores is from retriggers on lots of instances of xmult

like tribb

[tacit quail]

ok i just play this to ante 8 now and win forever right

[lament crater]

i sold lucky cat for mime

[odd storm]

Actual dumbest possible gold stake win i could have gotten

[tacit quail]

yeah im on similar

no plant pleases

[unreal iron]

like a 6?

i mean perishable throwback at x1.5 isnt greaaat

[tacit quail]

bro respond to where it is now

😭

[unreal iron]

but 76$

[unreal iron]

0/10

why are we STILL running photochad

[tacit quail]

im grinding

its not gold stake yet

[unreal iron]

be creative

[tacit quail]

i do that when i need to sticker

not now im rushing

[ivory sun]

rate my lineup

[unreal iron]

holy lineup

just win

[ivory sun]

i did almost all my cards were lucky and fibbed

grateful for all the uncs

[simple bronze]

am i cooked?

or is this ggs?

[odd storm]

Did the idol hit

[simple bronze]

nope

🙁

[ivory sun]

[odd storm]

Definitely cooked

[unreal iron]

hieroglyph

into standard pack into spectral :3

[lament crater]

oh voucher unlock

pluhhh

[unreal iron]

like youre not necessarily cooked you can still scale supernova

maybe find a hex off the spectal pack

thats your best hit basically

just gotta go back an ante tho

[tacit quail]

orange stake is free af

[indigo elbow]

[sly coral]

the goat

[lament crater]

6RXU3ARY, probably could've been played better by someone who's more experienced, but i'm happy about the run

i went into the run with a false mentality of only unlocking jokers sooo

[sly coral]

wee

[lament crater]

lmao unseeded

whats the play here

[lunar zealot]

Get econ

find observatory and/or sixth sense + seance

[narrow wadi]

honestly u rly want that voucher, perkeo immediately means u wanan make sure u don't get a bs boss

u can wait for big blind tho

i'd get raise the fist probably, easy wins for first couple of antes

to find econ as well

[lunar zealot]

not on plasma

[narrow wadi]

oh it's plasma mb

[lunar zealot]

on ante 1 you don't need any jokers at all really

[narrow wadi]

didn't realise

no need to get raise the fist then

[lament crater]

yeah until like round 4

[narrow wadi]

get the voucher after big blind

build econ

[simple bronze]

that helped thanks

[lament crater]

hey telescope ante 2

[narrow wadi]

probably the best ante 1 voucher if u get perkeo round 1

[ocean yoke]

Happens alot icl

[narrow wadi]

is this a random seed, if so why is it so similar to february?

that's a cool seed name

[lament crater]

random

unseeded run

i was originally hunting for my missing jokers and stumbles across this 😭

and now i also wanted to hunt jokers

and instead i get perkeo

[lunar zealot]

Second best

[lament crater]

hey sixth sense

[lunar zealot]

Pray for cryptid

in the meantime find scoring

[narrow wadi]

after uh overstock?

[lunar zealot]

telescope

[lament crater]

and temperance value 🙏

[narrow wadi]

oh true

[ivory sun]

naneinf potential?

[narrow wadi]

but if u get telescope and no boss blind skip u can lose the run

[lament crater]

and brainstorm from judgement

SORRY?

WHAT IS THIS

[narrow wadi]

having boss blind reroll ur gonna get telescope anyway with perkeo

[lunar zealot]

Yes but do you need dcut that early on plasma deck white stake? heavens no

[narrow wadi]

and not lose the run

[lunar zealot]

The sooner you can get observatory in the pool the better

[narrow wadi]

i've lost perkeo high score runs to never getting rerolls

[lunar zealot]

damn that's crazy anyway

[narrow wadi]

ante 11 naneinf?????????

[lunar zealot]

Yessirrrr

[narrow wadi]

that's insane

ngl

[lunar zealot]

ante 1 perkeo into ante 3 cryptid from seance

[narrow wadi]

my best is ante 19

[lunar zealot]

I think on my unseeded run i got ante 14 naneinf

i played the seed again to optimize it to ante 11

[narrow wadi]

ah i only do unseeded, ante 14 naneinf still mad impressive

[lunar zealot]

My main issue on my first run was i never found mime

[lament crater]

first 6: talisman

[lunar zealot]

nono you must understand i got ante 14 unseeded

I just optimized it to get ante 11

[lament crater]

i mean it is money

[narrow wadi]

this is what i meant, mb for not being clear, i thought the ante 11 was unseeded

which wld be like unheard of

[lunar zealot]

I would have gotten it if i found the fucking mime

[narrow wadi]

i meant ante 14 unseeded is still better than anything i've got

[lament crater]

should i get a planet card from shop?

or js keep copying talisman

for econ

[narrow wadi]

context?

[balmy ridge]

tips for green deck gold stake?

[lament crater]

this is the context

[balmy ridge]

con text

[lunar zealot]

do you have observatory

[unreal iron]

rentals dont hurt as much as other decks

[lunar zealot]

Also buy the overstock

[unreal iron]

since no interest

[lunar zealot]

they still do hurt

[unreal iron]

use one shot type hands

[lunar zealot]

Like don't get me wrong they still hurt

[lament crater]

i have telescope, not observatory yet

[lunar zealot]

never take rentals just because

[lament crater]

telescope was ante 2

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[fading cobalt]

The natural negative run is crazy