🕹・game-discussion

[pale wolf]

let legendaries be legendary and also idk how you can nerf without wrecking the theming

[manic talon]

Make it 0.1X per 23 discard

[deep rapids]

thats so underpowered

[pale wolf]

oh true I guess you could just adjust the how much it scales

obviously not that low but like

[quartz ember]

change it back to what it was xD

[manic talon]

Good

[pale wolf]

I just didn't consider it being like glass Joker .75

[wintry ice]

0.75x would be good enough

[deep rapids]

maybe like .5 or .25 or smth

[acoustic kettle]

Rick yo

[wintry ice]

.25 for every 23 discarded cards would make it as fast as like

midasless vampire

[safe moat]

Some one tell this isn’t the most worth it pick up ever

[pale wolf]

or two midasless vampires

or three

[deep rapids]

i think .5 is balanced, maybe like .4

[manic talon]

If likes theming so much he would make it 0.23

[deep rapids]

.4 would just be a weird number

[pale wolf]

.5 would be a big nerf

[wintry ice]

given how fast scaling xmult rares scale

[deep rapids]

yea thats what im thinke

[wintry ice]

you'd want to keep it high

[deep rapids]

thinking*

[quartz ember]

wait now i'm confused on what even was yoricks previous effect?

[pale wolf]

5x once you have discarded 23 times

[deep rapids]

gain X1 mult every 23 discards

[manic talon]

Obelisk is like 1.2X per round, but thats with setup

[pale wolf]

Not 23 cards, 23 discards
23 presses of the button

[quartz ember]

ok yea i remembered correct

[manic talon]

X5

Flat

[deep rapids]

wait it got changed?

i didnt even know that

[wintry ice]

yeah, while yorick scales fast with no cost

[quartz ember]

just failed to account for the fact that its a nerf in long run but buff in short term

[pale wolf]

many Jokers effects were changed throughout development

[deep rapids]

oh i need to see this

[pale wolf]

no it's not

it's worse in every aspect

[compact halo]

Bart

[full iris]

thx it worked

[pale wolf]

23 discards to get to 5X is the same as current yorick with no progressive scaling

[deep rapids]

why is it different for me

[pale grotto]

Wrath spades
Lusty Hearts
Greedy Diamond
Gluttonus clubs

[deep rapids]

clubs*

[quartz ember]

yea but you have to discard 5 every time to match

[pale grotto]

Srry

[deep rapids]

np

[pale wolf]

oh i suppose so, yea
That still makes it abysmally slower though

[quartz ember]

indeed

[pale grotto]

So the worst legendary is yorick or canio?

[pale wolf]

triboulet

[quartz ember]

yes those 3

[pale grotto]

:0

[fickle onyx]

there is no "worst", it just depends on how you play

[pale wolf]

there definitely is a generally worst hit

and its the one That gets disabled by boss blinds and is affected by draw odds

[fickle onyx]

you can play around those factors

[pale grotto]

-# yorick?

[quartz ember]

but having to do that is a minus

[fickle onyx]

you always have to

[wintry ice]

it's still factors that the other legendaries don't have to deal with

[pale wolf]

I suppose Yorick does have a boss blind too but when your discards are disabled, you still get the scoring from yorick

Not being able to scale is infinitely better than not being able to score

[wintry ice]

what part of it does?

[pale grotto]

True

I was thinking of the water Boss

But he is right srry

[fickle onyx]

every joker has its use cases, I was often glad to get any of them because all of them mean a win
unless there's some skill issues involved of course

[pale wolf]

do you say this to just any comparison between any two Jokers though

[fickle onyx]

more or less yea

[pale wolf]

square Joker is worse than wee Joker

[pale wolf]

How productive is that for discussion

lol

[pale grotto]

Canio in abandoned deck...

[fickle onyx]

you're right, if yall wanna be angry at some draws that yall can't make work, it's best for me to move on

[pale wolf]

the legendaries are all great jokers

[fickle onyx]

can work easily

[wintry ice]

the standards are naturally extremely high for a rarity that consistent

[pale wolf]

not that bad, trib is the one that is unusable mostly on abandoned

[wintry ice]

canio goes from one of the fastest scaling jokers in the game to around the same as constellation on abandoned

[pale wolf]

you have standard parks and 4 10s to strength into jacks, think of it more like a glass Joker on abandoned

[pale grotto]

But i like my boy trib :(

But you are right

[pale wolf]

with glass Joker you need to use a consumable to turn a card into glass, or buy a glass, and then break it (sometimes by playing, other times (usually? idk) with hangman)

basically the same as needing to use a strength for canio except that you have lower draw odds on 10s

[pale grotto]

Destroying a glass card with a hangedman counts as breakining?

[pale wolf]

yea

not immolate though or the other spectrals

[pale wolf]

(bug/oversight)

[compact halo]

Will have to brute force a red seal at this point with money and I hate doing that!!!!

[pure oasis]

Should i go for the Midas? I have one Blue sealed Jack in deck 8 Ks, 5Qs, 5Js. An Still some of those face cards are Lucky cards

[random ice]

Freest of wins

[compact halo]

Yes

[pale wolf]

uuuuh you could if you want, I think long-term it would be money positive

I don't think you necessarily need it

[pure oasis]

Yeah, problem is that Midas overrides those lucky cards

[pale grotto]

-# today i beat Orange stake Magic deck and two challenges non-perishable and the one that gives you -1 holding card per 5$ you have

[random ice]

Lmao it disabled the shit green Joker I just bought

[brave goblet]

W

[random ice]

Lucky Cat so good

[pale grotto]

What is RB in your name?

[random ice]

Rule Breaker

[pale grotto]

Ohhhh

[random ice]

The achievement

Fuck it

[pure oasis]

Too bad i didn't get golden enchanment for the Purple Sealed King i got at ante 2

[random ice]

I'm changing my username

There we go

[pale grotto]

Ufffff

Great name there

[random ice]

It's true

I have won a run at white stake

[quartz ember]

unlocked blueprint

[pale grotto]

🔥 🔥 🔥

[violet bear]

Woah

Don’t flex too hard on the rest of us

[pale wolf]

we're going back to the classics

i was (not good) for like 4 months prolly

then i changed it to stickering number and then ++

double unplus not good

[compact halo]

Fun fact:) there’s a bug where if you have showman, and a duplicate shows up, you swap out the joker you currently have with the duplicate, and showman’s effect stays perpetual even after you sell it

[violet bear]

Next is gonna be double multiplication

[pale wolf]

yup yup

[random ice]

I had that earlier with to the moon

I was wondering about the condition

[brave goblet]

Oh that's cool

[pale wolf]

this is a great feature

[random ice]

Finally a use for showman lmao

[violet bear]

Huh

[pale wolf]

I kind of wish showman worked like that just by buying and selling it, and then copies of your own jokers would appear

[pale grotto]

I saw a showman today having a showman myself and i didnt bought him :(

[pale wolf]

does this happen with consumables too?

[compact halo]

Showman works very simple behind the scenes. It essentially adds an argument in all the cards that treats them all the same, where they can keep showing up, but when they’re swapped, the game can’t tell the difference. So if you swap the non-stamped joker with the stamped joker, the way showman works will stay forever until you get rid of it

[pale wolf]

never considered

[compact halo]

Honestly not sure

[manic talon]

Showman but broken

[random ice]

The nichest piece of Balatro tech I know is if you set speed to minimum, and take a voucher tag on ante 1 yellow deck. You can buy Heiroglyph and the voucher tag can then generate the Petraglyph

[brave goblet]

Yeah I know of that one

[random ice]

You just need to buy the Heiro before the Petra generates

It's the only way to get to ante -1

[manic talon]

But why does it sometimes still give you dupes even after you sell it

[random ice]

ANOTHER niche piece of info is while Ante 0 is a multiple of 8, you can't use boss reroll tag in ante 0 to generate an Ante 8 blind

The game is specifically coded for this exception

Imo that's REALLY disappointing

[pale wolf]

the nichest piece of balatro tech i know is probably four fingered straights containing pairs, or raising obelisk's cap without resetting it

[random ice]

Oh with Mouth and Psy and Heart

[pale grotto]

Imaging the leaf as a Boss there but you have no jokers

[random ice]

And theoretically Eye too

[compact halo]

That’s the bug. It doesn’t differentiate if the joker isn’t duplicated, but rather swapped out for the showman version. Likely an oversight because “why would you do that” lol

[manic talon]

The nichest balatro tech i know is if you havent used hand or discard, then fully destroy your current hand, certificate will trigger again when you draw

[pale wolf]

not heart

[random ice]

Really? I thought if Crimson Heart disabled the Obe

The Obe couldn't reset

[pale wolf]

ooooooooh

[random ice]

Yeah

[pale wolf]

yea probably my b

[compact halo]

This is true yeah

[brave goblet]

yeah it's only a cap by one so you can't raise it tha tmuch lol

[violet bear]

Time for double ecto immolate

[brave goblet]

same with campfire being preserved for next ante

[random ice]

Holy shit I didn't know that one

[manic talon]

Or 2 ectos, like a normal persob

[compact halo]

I’ve won many gold stakes because of this haha

[random ice]

Obviously we all know about Double Chicot and Photochad Ecto Ankh Naneinf

[pale wolf]

so if you're good enough you could roll crimson heart every ante to get max campfire
/s

[brave goblet]

realest

[manic talon]

Its mostly useless

[random ice]

Look, I love finding a use for mostly useless info

[pale wolf]

WHAT

thats wild

[random ice]

That's a potential SECOND hologram proc

[pale grotto]

The chicot manacle thing?

[pale wolf]

thats def the nichest

[random ice]

Yep

[compact halo]

Yeahs that’s super neat. I didn’t even know this

[manic talon]

Yall didnt see the balatro pop quiz and it shows smh

[random ice]

This is a fun conversation

[pale wolf]

up there with triggering trading card multiple times on hook

[random ice]

Obviously there's the Misprint tech that nobody actually uses

[pale grotto]

Im learning so much today

[random ice]

And Collection tech for Acorn lmao

[manic talon]

I've put this in the quiz along with the Hook-trading card interaction

[compact halo]

I use!

[violet bear]

Wait you can do that

[random ice]

Click and Drag Acorn is babies first exploit

[brave goblet]

I only used the misprint tech for checkered deck back in the day lol

[pale grotto]

The see the Next card thing?

[pale wolf]

if you only have one card held in hand when you play a hand yeah

[brave goblet]

ye\

[random ice]

Yep, you can even do it from the Collection

So you don't need Misprint

[compact halo]

Just like the collection will tell you what the fool is currently on

In case you forget

[violet bear]

That’s so funny

[pale wolf]

theres a second level to acorn tech

[random ice]

Which one

The eternal tricks

The duplicated cards having different backing

[pale wolf]

with a mouse, you can select one of the Jokers quickly enough right before clicking and holding on a different Joker, so you'll know the positions of two different Jokers

like the buy and sell buttons will stay on it

[brave goblet]

oh sheeeit

[random ice]

Holy shit

[compact halo]

So true

[manic talon]

The 2026 update should add more amber acorn exploits, actually

[brave goblet]

what happens on mobile if you glitch out the buy sell buttons pop up

[pale grotto]

Lol

[violet bear]

Chad should have its cutout visible for one

[pale wolf]

it makes acorn a normal boss blind and the new ante 8 one shuffles after every hand

[random ice]

Amber Acorn has a comical amount of exploits, I barely consider it a boss blind

[violet bear]

[manic talon]

You should be able to re-flip the cards if you click on it fast enough

[wintry ice]

skip tag jokers would be fun

[brave goblet]

tbf it can really mess up blueprint/brainstorm builds

[pale wolf]

same thing I believe

[pale grotto]

Only for one hand

[brave goblet]

rarely that one hand sometimes matters

[blissful fog]

New ante 8 boss blind coming soon?

[random ice]

One of my favorite bits of tech is using Anaglyph on a Rare tag in Ante 8 for 50% chance of BP or BS

[pale wolf]

this is the biggest reason why I want to find a way to consistently make the buy and sell buttons appear on mobile

[brave goblet]

just mash the jokers with your finger

[pale wolf]

consistently

[brave goblet]

sadge

[manic talon]

I mean, just blueprint, really, brainstorm has that one edge on this specific scenario

[pale wolf]

I can't get it consistently doing that

[brave goblet]

have you ever gotten it to appear on multiple jokers

[random ice]

Also I think Juggle Tag ante 8 is CRITICALLY Underrated

[compact halo]

Oh you haven’t memorized each jokers’ specific animation on scoring and you’re not able to tell which joker is which after playing one hand? smh, causal

[full iris]

Square joker is based doe

[random ice]

Juggle Tag Ante 8 is sometimes just what you need to guarantee a win

[brave goblet]

I mean you can just set the speed down to x1 and then savescum

[random ice]

+3 draw

That's super good

[manic talon]

Juggle tag + mime

[pale grotto]

Juggle is the one that adds 3 more holding cards?

[pale wolf]

I don't think it's possible, I'm pretty sure it's just a glitch from mouse support being in the game and some taps being quick or glancing enough to count as clicks

[pale grotto]

Oh yeah

[compact halo]

You could but doesn’t feel as good

[random ice]

That's the good shit

Juggle Tag on Anaglyph ante 8 is hilarious

Yes I'd like to draw my entire deck

[brave goblet]

I feel great savescumming

except if you straight up lose in which case the lose screen pops up QUICK

[pale wolf]

im the worlds most prolific savescummer

[manic talon]

Isnt it funny that the savescumming pack lock only ever happens if you skip for it

[atomic onyx]

cool

[pale wolf]

I pause the game while the score is ticking from how much I scored in that hand to the total score for the round, if I overscore I save scum for more value generation

[median crystal]

THE SECOND RARE TAG I USED AND I GET THIS SHIT AGAIN

[manic talon]

Like damn, HATES skipping lol

[brave goblet]

d license is good

[pale grotto]

Im like very messy playing and i have like 1/6 of selling the wrong joker

[brave goblet]

you can hit way worse ones

[wintry ice]

typical

[pale wolf]

I still think throwback unlock is supposed to be a punishment for saved scumming

[random ice]

As a general rule don't do Rare Skip

[manic talon]

This is just cavendish

[random ice]

But D licence is good

[median crystal]

yea in later antes, not in ante 4 lmao

im doing weird shit rn

[violet bear]

The greenbo scaling exploit

[brave goblet]

why not, now you know to make a billion enhanced cards

ggs

halfsies with pants 💀

[wintry ice]

you could live for long enough to activate it

but no chips is

yea

[atomic onyx]

bruh free 2 pair run

[brave goblet]

dusk is twice the card chips 🧠

[random ice]

Trance and pants ante 1 gg

[manic talon]

Youre so fine, you can afford DL

[pale wolf]

which can be significant

[random ice]

Dusk is really good, I use it on Luckys and Gold Seals now mostly

[manic talon]

Only reason to not play flush on checkered, thats why its the only good scaling +mult

[random ice]

I don't like relying on Dusk for scoring due to the precarious nature of it, although I have sometimes particularly with Idol runs. But I love using it for econ

[pale grotto]

-# in the non-perishable challenge i bought a wraith and it gaves me a eternal obe, i was today years old when i learnt how to play obelisk

[wintry ice]

supernova:

[random ice]

Supernova is very solid, just gets crippled by Eye

[manic talon]

Pants is good regardless of checkered, snova is good because of it

[random ice]

The thing I like about Supernova is it's easy to underscore and burn hands

[pale grotto]

Snova is also good in other decks like is another grennie

[random ice]

Pants always keeps the max score online

[wintry ice]

i think i'd rather play pairs for it unless i have paintbrush

[random ice]

Snova I can play different hands to guarantee I don't overscore, and play my Luckys, dig for my golds and seals

Fib imo is the best of both worlds

[lament crater]

mmmmmoney

[random ice]

Very solid scoring and easy to burn hands intentionally with

Same with Fist actually

[manic talon]

Been a while since i took fibo, its always rental perishable lately

[wintry ice]

the worst thing about fib is that it depends on card draws

[random ice]

I mean, just seal/enhance up the cards it hits and delete the others

[pale wolf]

luckily it's like a million different ranks

[wintry ice]

yea

[random ice]

Also if you're techy you can use it with Photo and Full House / 2 pair to do some janky shit

[manic talon]

Doesnt fibo hit the same number of ranks as even steven or odd todd

[wintry ice]

two pair sounds like it'd be the best hand for fib

[random ice]

A,2,3,5,8
2,4,6,8,10

Yeah, same amount

[wintry ice]

idk i usually use it to set up 3 or 4oak

[pale wolf]

twice as good tho

[royal bobcat]

Fib is cracked

My goat

[manic talon]

Basically strict upgrade to even steven

[pale wolf]

also I would say fib's 5 ranks are better than either todd or steven

[random ice]

Fib has Hack potential

[pale wolf]

they all have hack potential but fib gets 3 instead of 2

plus getting 8

[random ice]

3/5 of the fib ranks are retriggered by hack

[manic talon]

Yea but have you considered odd todd is the only 7 support

[pale wolf]

typical flush user ignoring straight potential

[wintry ice]

what if there was a prime joker and it was fib for chips

[pale wolf]

😎

[pale wolf]

A 2 3 5 7??

[random ice]

Odd Todd is a life saver sometimes when I can't find planets I want

[pale wolf]

lmfao

[solemn bough]

Does the final boss blind in ante 16 give stickers?

[pale wolf]

nope

[manic talon]

Okay actually good idea

[wintry ice]

every prime gives 50 and ace gives 30 because it's a prime and not a prime at the same time

[royal bobcat]

Sum1 get this to thunk

[solemn bough]

Dam it 1/4

[manic talon]

Imagine being straight

[pale wolf]

you think he went through the fibonacci sequence before considering prime numbers smh smh

[royal bobcat]

Imaging not kissing every gender

[royal bobcat]

It's possible yeah

[solemn bough]

1 is 10 billion percent not a prime

[atomic onyx]

bruh

[wintry ice]

but 11 is

[pale wolf]

How many factors does it have

[atomic onyx]

only 1

[manic talon]

Yea but 11 is

[pale wolf]

ace isnt 11 for anything except fist

[wintry ice]

primes need to have 2 factors

[solemn bough]

Always to greedy with rebat

[wintry ice]

itself and 1

[pale wolf]

and they are

[atomic onyx]

wdym they are

[royal bobcat]

Well 1 is divided by both itself and 1

[atomic onyx]

its just one

[wintry ice]

it also gives 11 chips

[pale wolf]

gah

was the game ever J 11 chips A 14 chips

[atomic onyx]

aces used to be 10

i think

[manic talon]

Its also the highest rank so technically also 13

[solemn bough]

1 but a prime needs 2 him self and 1 but I see you're point and it would mess up the Prime factor reduction

[atomic onyx]

made into 11 to match blackjack points

[pale wolf]

14

[pale wolf]

it would be weird for the points to resemble blackjack at the start except for ace idk

[atomic onyx]

well they do

[manic talon]

Youre counting aces twice

[solemn bough]

Understandable that aces give the highest points, they are the best in poker

[loud flicker]

Wtf this isn’t maths discussion, get a room guys

Where the games at

[pale wolf]

no, unless ur calling 2 rank 1

[solemn bough]

Well if J 11 Q 12 K 13 and aces 14

[wintry ice]

another idea is a joker that gaints +2 mult per (random rank) played

not chips that would be extremely weak

[solemn bough]

Mult and rebat

[pale wolf]

or rather there is no rank 1, there are 13 ranks from 2-14

[solemn bough]

Misprint count like that

[loud flicker]

Wait we can make idol worse?

[pale wolf]

and straights

[manic talon]

Only ranks so like, idol but slightly better

[wintry ice]

it stores them

so it's more like wee

[loud flicker]

No no at least idol makes you score big

Ah

[pale wolf]

so they did
it is strange lol

[wintry ice]

1 in a million times

[loud flicker]

Wee but rng

Interestinf

[pale wolf]

not wee

its like uuuuuh

[loud flicker]

Would that be uncommon or common then?

No actually def uncommon

[manic talon]

Sounds uncommon

[pale wolf]

it's like wee

[solemn bough]

It would be cool if there were way much ways to score big

[wintry ice]

uncommon makes more sense for the idea

[solemn bough]

Sounds like pants

[wintry ice]

or rare if i were to buff it a bit but

+3 sounds like an instant win

[loud flicker]

Sounds fine enough but I dont like that its pretty much impossible to build around

Even idol you can build around

[solemn bough]

Make it choose the same cards as rebate

[red thistle]

By being filthy rich.

[wintry ice]

it should be consistent enough to get around +4 mult per round

[loud flicker]

Only works with like chad and sock/hack with luck

I’m not saying its bad I’m just saying no synergies for a joker is a bit sad

[wintry ice]

and you can deckfix to make it more likely to hit

[wintry ice]

isn't that how every scaling mult joker is though

[loud flicker]

Maybe

Perhaps I’m just comparing it to the wrong things

[red thistle]

Chaos + flash card.

🔥

[loud flicker]

You can actually just make everything in a rank in the same suits, cut down your deck, reduce ranks etc.

Theres so many ways to make it likelier that its possible in a real gold stake game

So possible in fact that Ive had a good run with it being useful before

[quartz ember]

that sounds like a synergy for me

[pale wolf]

why wouldn't it work the same way as Idol?

[craggy gale]

Abysmal run but here’s a banana that survived until perishable kicked in

[stiff fjord]

this always happens to me

[loud flicker]

Rank is different from picking particular cards

[red thistle]

Make it likelier sure but making is 100% hit in a real gold stake run? Don't think so.

[pale wolf]

also, it's a scaling Joker, it's not like idol where if you miss the draws then you don't score

[wintry ice]

doesn't rebate also say that it's rank changes every round

[pale wolf]

yes

[red thistle]

Rebate is weighed to your deck.

[wintry ice]

that's what the wiki says

[red thistle]

Same with idol.

[quartz ember]

exactly

[tranquil cedar]

everything except aj is

[wintry ice]

yeah the plan is for this to be weighted too

[loud flicker]

Idk if this picks from available ranks or works like rebate but either way not affected by suit changes and much less so by cutting ranks

Can any of you fucking read…

[wintry ice]

probably should have made that more clear

[loud flicker]

I literally didnt say its bad

[pale wolf]

😭 what

nobody said you said it was bad

[loud flicker]

I’m just saying theres more options that synergizes with idol

[loud flicker]

You sure make it seem like it

[pale wolf]

what are you talking about

[craggy gale]

He’s back

[quartz ember]

what do you mean

[wintry ice]

whuh

[tranquil cedar]

back and better than ever

he's gonna die next round dw

[craggy gale]

Watch as it dies in one round

[loud flicker]

I’m not comparing idol in terms of strength at all and you bring that up?

[wintry ice]

i don't know if i make the joker scale on scoring or on card plays

[loud flicker]

And you say you just didnt mean it?

Like is there a misunderstanding here

[pale wolf]

You literally started this off with wait we can make idol worse

[craggy gale]

Something else died

[wintry ice]

on scoring makes it very similar to wee but my prime number joker idea is literally just fib for chips

[tranquil cedar]

all my fellas hate the water

[pale wolf]

I mean if you try to balance it against pants then I think it's just on card play

[quartz ember]

you said its easier to build around idol than this idea when its clearly not the case, other than that idk didnt follow the discussion that much

[granite crown]

my average runs be like ...

i just started ante 2 btw

[royal bobcat]

Photochad

[tranquil cedar]

no way. they're having a discussion. about the game. on #🕹・game-discussion

[pale wolf]

im just confused tbh

[red thistle]

What even is the joker about.

Can someone forward the message.

[quartz ember]

oh wait

this joker is supposed to scale

is that whats missing?

[pale wolf]

gains, not gives yea

[red thistle]

Idol but worse is like comparing fifa to dark souls.

[loud flicker]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1156721486288126023/1375773167766994994/Screenshot_2025-05-12_170809.png?ex=68fc9d9b&is=68fb4c1b&hm=701685e09af95a9cbd851d57a6526652893a721cb1f85f311e909c859c4ebc96& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1156721486288126023/1375773168161001532/7B52DA3EE2-2951-48DC-929D-ACDDB60A86AE7D.png?ex=68fc9d9b&is=68fb4c1b&hm=62bc769839f8d45315492e80a894e57f0ee48ac93f6baf737c799d6a2ac7a023& not 100% but this run it hit enough to cover for ancient which is really cool

Legit useful, maybe even optimal idol

[wintry ice]

i think they thought it triggered on those cards scoring there

[pale wolf]

taking aj on checkered is a wild decision

[loud flicker]

Ah so thats the misunderstanding I misunderstood what it did, got it later

[wintry ice]

this setup is being held up by duct tape and tears

[pale wolf]

you are brave and fortunate

[tranquil cedar]

heh. wild.

[loud flicker]

And yet beat the final boss with a luchador to spare

[pale wolf]

pun
in
ten
did

[loud flicker]

The only actual fortunate part is getting enough deckfix to get idol consistent enough, the idol and aj itself covered each other enough that I didnt have to worry once I got it going in the middle game

One hell of a run for sure

Both of then having such high power that I can skip blinds to manip helps too

There are three (3) cards that only had 2 copies btw

Kept a strength to spare as well lmao

Bloodstone would be less consistent than idol there

[wintry ice]

bloodstone moment

[royal bobcat]

How can u post gifs :(

[wintry ice]

downloading them

[granite crown]

a image cant explain pain and suffering ...
the image:

[loud flicker]

Credit card in pack trust

[wintry ice]

you could just zoom into black deck and it would have the same meaning

[loud flicker]

Even better

[ivory sun]

that’s an amazing pull

[loud flicker]

Now you have a run

Forget about blueprint youd have died ante 1 anyway

[ivory sun]

take zanny

[mortal aurora]

uncommon gaming

[loud flicker]

Holy baseball value

[manic talon]

If it makes you feel any better, you cant even buy it on white stake black deck

[cold finch]

Calculated

[sweet girder]

nah no way i got baron from a judgement xDD

[lament crater]

ayayayaaaaaa

[granite crown]

poooooggggg

[autumn vector]

Yessss

[granite crown]

bro is everybody getting blueprint expect me

[tribal chasm]

Which joker should i give up for mail ? Or should i not take mail ?

[autumn vector]

I had to restart a lot

[granite crown]

did you the image i sent before ( i wasnt trying to get it)

[granite crown]

a

bro actually insane combo tho for a single ante

[tribal chasm]

What hand are you even trying to get ?

[wintry ice]

-1$ per round

[tribal chasm]

Yeah since if pair he is losing money anf if flush it isnt worth it

[granite crown]

HE IS BACK BABY

What do i sell for blueprint?(maybe 4 of kind my deck does not work for now with trying to build for it )

[autumn vector]

If I lose I’m going to be so mad

Not looking too good

[potent tree]

what level flush at

[autumn vector]

1 😭

[granite crown]

hahaha dna did the thing it does (replication)

[potent tree]

at least family is holo so maybe keep. i'd say discard either troubadour or walkietalkie

note if you blueprint stuntman after the round begins you still get 250 more chips without handsize being bad

[potent tree]

oh wait you still have to gold sticker troubadour so maybe not that

[granite crown]

it might be stupid but maybe should sell the family for the duo?

[potent tree]

duo is more consistent but you need more base mult

currently i only see that holo family as providing base mult unless your planets are high level

[granite crown]

walkie talkie with chad

[unreal iron]

empress and run

[potent tree]

in that case it would probably be best to ditch family then

[unreal iron]

you'd most likely sell walkie talkie or stuntman if youre playing 4oak

not a great idea to draw only 5-6 cards at a time when doing 4oak

[silk tapir]

peak Gold Stake
all the Rocks came from Marble

[unreal iron]

stuntman is if you have enough chips off of your 4oak levels

[lament crater]

beginner here, what do i do

[silk tapir]

sell everything except Burnt and Ankh is what I'd do

[granite crown]

question will this hand count for the duo ??

[silk tapir]

yes

[random ice]

Another satisfying win

[signal frigate]

I'm late but I'd sell Troubadour

[random ice]

Hanging Chad and Glass clutching it again

[signal frigate]

Or even stuntman

[random ice]

Buying Justice ante 7 and saving it for Ante 8 is almost always a play lmao

[signal frigate]

Selling a rebate?

[signal frigate]

This is a setup pack, I'd probably just cryptid that king and work towards that for either Steels or Photochad

[silk tapir]

it's White Stake, double Burnt auto wins

[signal frigate]

That's not as fun, I would do it if it's stencil

Since it's white stake, why not go for a future endless setup?

[silk tapir]

I'd rather try fishing for Straights then lose than go endless tbh

did it once never again

[lament crater]

well that worked out well

[signal frigate]

Again, it's white stake so you probably won't worry much

[signal frigate]

Oh wow, that's one helluva payoff

[lament crater]

yeah i kinda wanna get to endless somehow

i've never been there

[signal frigate]

I guess I was wrong

[lament crater]

so i'm playing white stake

my highest score is only like 14 mil

[signal frigate]

Well, you have the jokers for it

[tranquil cedar]

I'm a bit late but yeah most of them are

[signal frigate]

You pass ante 11 then

[granite crown]

sell stundman for he idol...????

[signal frigate]

Blueprint is really good

[lament crater]

so i js go for a face card setup right?

[signal frigate]

Some rares are actually better than legendaries

[signal frigate]

Yes and make sure to try and dodge the Plant

So backup non face glasses

And a consistently leveled up hand

[lament crater]

or get a reroll voucher

[signal frigate]

Have 2 backup hands in case the bossblind appears

[signal frigate]

Keep your econ up and you can get both

[lament crater]

for what joker should i wait until i sell showman?

a second hanging chad would be nice

with that photo

[signal frigate]

A second photograph

Honestly

I'd wait for a Blueprint

Then just sell one of your burnt

[lament crater]

orrr js get a brainstorm

[signal frigate]

Also I used that pfp to recreate it with my character lmfao

[signal frigate]

Oh hey, that's an easy burnt sell

[lament crater]

lvl 24 high card rn

is copying hanging chad or photo more worth it?

after i've discarded my first hand

[signal frigate]

Copy photo

Also I recommend going for something like a 5 card hand

Because it scales way better than high card

Either that or 4 of a kind

[lament crater]

what should i go for then?

[signal frigate]

You have the choice of going for a hearts of queens or kings

Did you encounter the Head Bossblind yet?

[lament crater]

not yet i think

[quartz ember]

with that big of a deck and no fixing you are best off just continuing hc tbh

[signal frigate]

I would suggest going for a suit for a bossblind you've already encountered

The same bosses don't appear twice

[granite crown]

yo help

[signal frigate]

It's not too late to do it, it's an endless run

They have good setup with brainstorm photochad

[quartz ember]

oh i missed they are going endless

[lament crater]

aaa for the life of me i can't remember

[signal frigate]

And burnt

[signal frigate]

You can check

Go to your run info

[granite crown]

should i sell stuntman for idol???!!!!!!

[signal frigate]

See any bossblinds you've encountered

[signal frigate]

How's your deck looking?

[granite crown]

terrible

[signal frigate]

Absolutely not lmao

[quartz ember]

why would uou idol

[signal frigate]

Unless you can Perkeo a death or hangman, I'd say go next

[lament crater]

but that only shows upcoming blinds for me

[lyric shore]

yea you cant see past

[signal frigate]

Oh right, for some reason I thought about something else

[lament crater]

last ante i had the house, now i have the eye

[signal frigate]

Well right now, look out for the next bossblinds

The earlier you encounter the plant, the better

[lament crater]

i think i didnt have plant

[cedar shell]

jokers are so cool

[lament crater]

i'd know it

[cedar shell]

so are planets

i wish they were real

[signal frigate]

That's your main concern

Aswell as any suit bosses that your deck is running in

[granite crown]

he's back for more !!!!!!

selling stuntman i have a pretty good chip count i think i will survive

[ivory sun]

lmao get stickered jimbo

[signal frigate]

I think stuntman goes away here

[signal frigate]

He's unironically one of the few jokers that refused to show up in some of my C++ profiles lmao

[lament crater]

should i collect double tags for the future?

[lyric shore]

sure

don't skip for them though

[signal frigate]

Gay

[pale wolf]

my jimbo sticker https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1379214645742796911/1400853980535455885/screen-20250801-105107.mp4?ex=68fc3baf&is=68faea2f&hm=dae2aa71c24a4cf1051a556b1eb3deaf4048eb5c3fbf11f249ba1aca7e970f4a&

[wintry ice]

you can take some from cola

[signal frigate]

Only from the soda

[wintry ice]

just incase you get like

[signal frigate]

Skipping is not great

[signal frigate]

Y'all just rubbing it in me

[wintry ice]

the 3 levels skip or whatever

[signal frigate]

It's a fucking common, why didn't it show up for me?

[lament crater]

showman sadly has to go i think

tbf

showman hasn't shown me a single dupe joker

so far

[pale wolf]

if you need to, you could get every joker in a rarity since jimbo is the default

[granite crown]

should i sell photo (my deck is not really face card base)

[signal frigate]

Yeah, that's a good alternative for sure

[quartz ember]

thats fine

[signal frigate]

You can fix for it

[slow iris]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/403698615446536206/1346994747784302643/jdP4FyU.mp4?ex=68ada0dd&is=68ac4f5d&hm=057db893edfa438443c84d1070a3df2dfbb7f57870f6c17d5d3506d32bade5d4&

[pale wolf]

no you sell walkie-talkie

[signal frigate]

Your deck is a mess

[lyric shore]

sell the damn 10-4

[granite crown]

omg noooo this screw me over so bad

[wintry ice]

that's expected

[signal frigate]

I don't see a problem when you need to sticker that damn banana

[lyric shore]

it wont

[quartz ember]

oh nooo

[granite crown]

trust me it will probobly expect i get lucky

[lyric shore]

it gets countered by looking at the screen

[quartz ember]

nothing in your build is even affected by it lol

[lament crater]

oh now i have the plant

yeah i think i'm fucked

[quartz ember]

no?

all you need is glass

[lament crater]

i dont have any glass numbers

[lyric shore]

why do you have $70

[lyric shore]

did you not look at the boss?

[quartz ember]

brahhh

[lament crater]

yeah ggs my fault

i'm dumb asf

next run

[lyric shore]

learning moment tho

[quartz ember]

well

at least you won the run 😄

[lyric shore]

dont glass face cards with photochad

[lament crater]

why am i so stupid

[lament crater]

yeah that barely matters cause i already have plasma beat up to purple

so not really a benefit

[cloud wolf]

Useless Negative?

[glass creek]

Yeah, it's not eternal

[lament crater]

solid start

[glass creek]

Space joker!

[lament crater]

loving the 2 wheel of fortunes hitting

[cedar shell]

so as it turns out, eternal riff raff isnt the greatest idea on painted deck

[glass creek]

Perhaps..

[cedar shell]

i always complain about survivorship bias but then i just keep taking the riff-raff bc i got good hits like one time

[pliant jewel]

ok chat ante 1 spectral pack blue seal or gold seal

[cedar shell]

and i take them more often when eternal 😭

[cedar shell]

blue seal imo

[pale wolf]

blue >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

literally the most powerful single thing in the game

[glass creek]

Blueeee

[cedar shell]

i love picking up mime when i have exactly one gold blue seal and no other held in hand cards

genuinely top 10 pivots

[pale wolf]

mime is worth speculatively, even, because almost every run will have gold cards

A singular gold card proc and mime has paid itself off

[granite crown]

antimatter lets go

[lament crater]

what hand should i mainly go for

[cedar shell]

ante 1 idol

just consider it

[granite crown]

what did i just break balatro or sum

[cold forge]

Early showman could be funny

[lament crater]

who do i sell?

[glass creek]

Flush since you have ancient

[ivory sun]

2nd soul card this seed who gets the boot

i’m thinking jimbo but he’s been with me since ante 1

it’s ricky

[cold forge]

Hmmm

Hard choice

I'm thinking oops

Sure it increases the spaceman chance but doesn't do much else

[lament crater]

spaceman and oops would help a lot to scale flushes tho

except i go for smth smaller and face card based

like high card

but then ancient has barely any job

[cold forge]

Flush five is the aim tbh

[serene forge]

awa

[quartz ember]

rid of space joker, dice has other synergies

[serene forge]

photo

[lament crater]

hm yeah

[ivory sun]

what a fun run

[granite crown]

another one!

should i sell photo

???

[serene forge]

yes

itll be trib trust

[ivory sun]

canio jumpscare incoming

[granite crown]

NAAAAA

HOW DID YOU KNOW

[lament crater]

whats the play..?

😭

[ivory sun]

i’d just take the bh

[novel flower]

Helppppp

[lapis sierra]

how do yall make it zoomed out like that? is it just the monitor?

[pale wolf]

no way you play like this

[pale wolf]

yeah it's just the resolution of the display

[lapis sierra]

ah

[granite crown]

What should i copy for this hand??

[pale wolf]

well, aspect ratio

[ivory sun]

it wins doesn’t it?

[pale wolf]

with animations turned off

[ivory sun]

god forbid a guy gets motion sickness

[pale wolf]

You can turn just the screen shake down

[glass creek]

Animations disabled looks so cursed

No bouncy cards :(

[silk tapir]

small deck good deck

[dense wraith]

This came from a judgement card btw

[glass creek]

However, fuck screenshake

Keeping that shit disabled

[silk tapir]

I have it maxed lol

[lament crater]

should i sell oops atp and save up luchador for a rainy day when a boss blind fucks me

[glass creek]

Insane

[pale wolf]

100% screenshake, 100% crt
this is nauseating

[ivory sun]

it’s way too much

[pale wolf]

and on the flipside there is like 0 joy with reduced motion

[pale wolf]

i turn screenshake off always but the cards need to move when they activate or i feel nothing

[dense wraith]

what a legendary clutch from polychrome cavendish

[ivory sun]

fair enough

[lament crater]

my thoughts: sell ac for hanging chad, because the plant is coming up

[pale wolf]

like I bet you might have not even noticed that I got two lucky money hits

[lament crater]

am i correct?

[granite crown]

yo which blueprint copy is best for this hand is it hanging chad??

[dense wraith]

previously I was relying on managing stencil which was rough

[pale wolf]

its dusk i believe

https://efhiii.github.io/balatro-calculator/

[lament crater]

correct?

[granite crown]

ogh cool

[lament crater]

ok i'll js do it

[pale wolf]

uuuh sell luchador

aj carries thru plant

and make non-face glass if possible ofc

[stiff fjord]

billions must shake

[gaunt folio]

Can’t beat a run because the game just does not give me any source of xMult

No chariot, no justice, no jokers except for a way too late madness

[lament crater]

ehh i can also js settle to what i did

new high score!

[gaunt folio]

Awesome

[pale wolf]

you just said plant is coming

but yea you're good now

[cedar shell]

what to ankh, decisions decisions

[lament crater]

yeah i sold lucha in plant

ay...

do i risk it?

[cedar shell]

i mean it looks like youve won anyways even if youre down a joker

[gaunt folio]

Bloodstone every time

[lament crater]

i'm going for endless

not a win

a win is kinda unimportant rn

[cedar shell]

every bloodstone run i do loses to a single bloodstone proc at some point

[gaunt folio]

1/5 for trib, 1/5 for perkeo

[cedar shell]

did you just say perkeo

[gaunt folio]

Better chances than a wheel

[shell seal]

why perkeo

🥀

[cedar shell]

best legendary

[lament crater]

i'm guessing sock and buskin goes away

[cedar shell]

if you find trib youd want sock over chad

[shell seal]

situational

[cedar shell]

no

[granite crown]

i have two heart card and the ancient joker just hit them wow

[blissful cedar]

Dont you dare disrespect yorick like that

[cedar shell]

best legendary

[gaunt folio]

if they find some copy effects and observatory it could go far, plus it helps with deck fixing

[shell seal]

kinda late for a perkeo imo

[heavy heron]

debating if i should bring my money to $0 for vagabond

[blissful cedar]

Yes

[gaunt folio]

It’s more valuable than sock here regardless

[heavy heron]

or just keep my money..

[blissful cedar]

Yes

[shell seal]

ye

[lament crater]

now i dont know anymore

[blissful cedar]

Yes

[lament crater]

helppp

[heavy heron]

yea… probably right

[cedar shell]

eternal matador oh nahhh

[gaunt folio]

Sock is a 2x on that build

[heavy heron]

SEE LIKE IT MADE ME MAD BANK

maybe i use small and big blind to farm bags

VAGAA*

then reach boss

and use matador to get money back

in theory this works

in practice ima die

[gaunt folio]

*4x because of double photo

[lament crater]

do i risk it for the biscuit

[blissful bronze]

HOLY TEMP VALUE

[gaunt folio]

Sell sock and rip it

[lament crater]

i'm conflicted

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodtsone

[lament crater]

canio...

[cedar shell]

think about sock being a times 32 on trib

[gaunt folio]

Oof

[cedar shell]

time for a pivot

[gaunt folio]

Well you got temperance value

[lament crater]

yeah

unless i find smth more useful i'll keep it

[gaunt folio]

And 4 face cards destroyed makes up the difference

[cedar shell]

me at this very moment

[gaunt folio]

Since sock was giving 4x

[lament crater]

oo

[umbral salmon]

1x canio mult 🤑

[shell seal]

destroy that disgusting red seal to scale canio

[lament crater]

if tarot packs could please hear me out and give me destroy value

[heavy heron]

WHY DOES MATADOR NOT WORK AGAINST THHS BOSS

LOCALTHUNK FIX YOUR GAME

[shell seal]

play some high cards with justice

[heavy heron]

this eternal matador is a burden to my neck

i’ve taken $24 at the cost of an eternal weight on my shoulders..

[lament crater]

i ask and i shall recieve

[shell seal]

matador only works on those

[shrewd bluff]

is four showman good

I gotta go for the other two now

[heavy heron]

yeah…… i’ve seen that wiki page, thank you, i just think it’s a little stupid

like i would’ve never thought it’d work on the flint

but it did

[shell seal]

ye

[heavy heron]

so i made mad bank

i was going to let it work on the arm but it wasn’t worth it

[lament crater]

thank you fool

anotha highscore

anotha hanged man??

[burnt dune]

My mistake 😔😔😔

[lament crater]

oh thank you game

shi...

[somber charm]

It's just business

[fervent wolf]

"Here, win"

[stark karma]

It would be literally impossible to scale Canio to be as good as that red seal

[lament crater]

ggs

[stark karma]

Maybe not completely impossible with like tarot cycling or sum stupid

[granite crown]

i will lose but it was a fun run

what

[stark karma]

Please tell me u just had a really tiny deck of all suits

[green meteor]

First time winning with two legendaries, and first time getting trib!

[stark karma]

Did you just wait for ancient to land?

[sly bolt]

hello chat I'm pretty new to the game, how do I unlock the scribbled joker?

[granite crown]

brother it always lands

[stark karma]

????

[stark karma]

Discard a royal flush

[lament crater]

wish i got to e

[sly bolt]

that sounds hard :<

[stark karma]

Do so on the checkered deck, it’s easie

[lament crater]

not that hard

[granite crown]

wait why is diamond????

[lament crater]

i got it on my 2nd run on checkered

[stark karma]

It switches bro ToT

Lmaooo

[lament crater]

just play small blinds and discard until you find one

[granite crown]

if you have the same deck it doesnt right ...

right???

[stark karma]

No

It’s not like rebate

Or idol

It doesn’t go off deck

[granite crown]

great seed

[serene forge]

I hate Photograph

[tepid skiff]

I

Know

[balmy ridge]

is castle based on your deck similar to idol?

[stark karma]

Yes

Man I love knowing

[balmy ridge]

are you sure

on skibidi?

[stark karma]

Yes

[balmy ridge]

on baby gronk?

[stark karma]

Yeah

[balmy ridge]

on your mothers life?

[stark karma]

On baby aliens soul

[balmy ridge]

ok i believe you

[acoustic kettle]

Photocard

[shell seal]

[undone laurel]

BRUH!

[shell seal]

skill issue?

crazy draws

[steel chasm]

looks in pack. Photochad

[wintry ice]

and money generation

[hallow bolt]

this is my best potential naneinf run yet, deck is mostly gold kings. is there anything i should watch out for or prepare for?

[shell seal]

probably seek for ret con and burglar

[hallow bolt]

i have retcon and antimatter, looking for ecto

[wintry ice]

yea

keep dna until ante 24

[hallow bolt]

i have a negative troubador thats good right

[shell seal]

ye

[wintry ice]

you can't hold enough kings to naneinf before then because you kill the boss early

[hallow bolt]

okay, should i start converting stuff to steel?

[tepid skiff]

That nat negative troubador should be enough to beat ante 24

[hallow bolt]

wtf negative burnt

[wintry ice]

doing so in a few rounds sounds good

[hallow bolt]

this seed is crazy ive found neg burnt oops and troub

[wintry ice]

i failed naneinf because of lack of steel

so

[tepid skiff]

I usually make steel around ante 20

[hallow bolt]

how much money do i need?

[wintry ice]

keeping 2k is minimum

[tepid skiff]

For burgaler?

[hallow bolt]

should i sell dna for rebate

[tepid skiff]

Definitely not

[hallow bolt]

need 45 kings right ?

[hallow bolt]

Okay

mime and gold is enough for money?

[tepid skiff]

Yes just remember to copy mime

[hallow bolt]

i will

do i need ecto?

[tepid skiff]

If you do pickup an extra joker for econ it should be reserved parking but there's no reason to sell anything

[tepid skiff]

Yes for naneinf

[hallow bolt]

okay thx

[tepid skiff]

But you can beat ante 24 with the negative troubador which is usually the hardest part

[lunar zealot]

Send this to anyone who thinks obelisk is bad

[balmy ridge]

is the plural of ambulance ambuli?

[wintry ice]

the word is not ambulus

[shell current]

You gotta do the cola for voucher skip if you don’t have retcon yet so like opportunistically rotate between rebate, ticket, parking

Also parking is not that much money without serpent

[tepid skiff]

They said they already have antimatter and retcon

[rancid widget]

i tried using wee joker and got to ante 12
I got pretty lucky in the start where i got a wee and an ankh right after so i got two wees from the start

[shell current]

Hoooly

God voucher rolls at only ante 16

[tepid skiff]

There are some other important vouchers like nacho tong, pallete and omen globe but antimatter and retcon are the main ones

[narrow wadi]

found rebate in my first shop 3 runs in a row now

this is crazy

imo it's easily the best joker to get immediately for gold stake

[rancid widget]

how did i do

[quartz ember]

you have a big wee

[rancid widget]

i mean it's a common joker yeah

[narrow wadi]

ik it's common but there's a ton of common jokers and for the first shop it's one of if not the best

[wintry ice]

rebate is ludicrously overtuned

[narrow wadi]

for me rebate first shop in gold stake is huge for my win rate

[rancid widget]

i have not understood a single word in your sentence except rebate

[narrow wadi]

it's hard to lose even a gold stake run with a first round rebate

[quartz ember]

rebate is good

[wintry ice]

it's extremely powerful

[quartz ember]

too good even

compared to other stuff

[rancid widget]

i know you could've just said it was pretty op instead of

[narrow wadi]

btw theo i like ur username, i have like 2k hours in hollow knight lol

my favourite game oat

[rancid widget]

what the FUCK were you doing there for 2000 hours?????

[narrow wadi]

i used to run any% nmg

[rancid widget]

oh that makes sense

[narrow wadi]

i was never top 10 but i got close a couple of times

[rancid widget]

do you like my pfp it was like this cat dude that i redrew as the knight

[wintry ice]

videogame

[unreal island]

Rebate sucks bro

NO synergh eith burglar