#🕹・game-discussion
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by that logic every number is a square
I’m genuinely writing this in an assignment rn
i need my mercury poison to live
with troub especially u can scale jt just faster and/or without spending hands, which is econ
Yep now youre getting it
guys what does troub do, I forgor
perfect square*
+2 hand size -1 hand
Supernova on 41
"just look at it, what do you mean it's not continuous"
I see
"you can't lift up your pen"
+2hs/-1 hand
every number is a square, just not necessarily of an integer
rip
All squares are perfect
Just the way they are ❤️❤️❤️❤️🌹🌹🌹
you can't get cards you already have in your consumable slots i think
is shoot the moon good?
ik i worded it poorly i meant perfect squares
-1 isn’t a square 
telescope and showman bypass this
yes it is
every real nonnegative number
yes
given side length i
that’s not real
ever heard of imagination
some of them are irrational.....
stm requires deck fixing tho
Thats why im holding them
technically (-i)^2 is also -1
that's not a real number
that isn’t real
We should still be patient with them
fake news
no you're imagining it
looking at a 90 degree rotation what da hell
no its on the screen
Schrodinger's imaginary number
imaginary is just the name, there are physical instances of imaginary numbers such as in the schrodinger wave equation meaning that imaginary numbers are actually real
my quantum particles are superpositioning
I think therefore I am
What I think therefore is
So its definitely real
yea real number is a misnomer
Anyone else always has bus mentality whenever you pick up a common +mult scaler?
could've been a haiku 🥀
they should say vanilla numbers
what bus mentality
the i isn’t even doing anything in schrodingers equation lets be real
Not playing face cards
it cant be imaginary because im not imaginative but i can still understand it
There for show
i think real number is fine
its calling the complex part imaginary that's weirder
"lets be real"
yeah
Even though i have supernova my brain is making me avoid playing face cards
no, is this supposed to be relatable or something
real necessarily implies outliers are not real, no?
technically it could be replaced with other, real, terms, but it does actually affect the way the equation can be interpreted in certain instances
whats up
negative riff raff
nat neg to
wiff waff?
blueprint photochD
What do I sell for this one
sort of ig
but not as strongly as explicitly stating it
ante 2 bp photochat neg riffraff
it was meant to be
what if we called the real numbers the "serious numbers" and the imaginary numbers the "silly numbers"
LOL
i had a rare skip for an invis tag on this seed and got dupe mystic summit and sold it
the real numbers are sillier tho
i work on the serious domain
lefty righty numbers VS uppy downy numbers
tbh holo can go, what's the mult on it
2.75
riemann vs lebesgue
just go with my solution
real numbers are vanilla numbers and imaginary are modded
imaginary
Can we rebrand irrational numbers to "emotional numbers"?
So it’s the question do I want more mult or more hand size
honestly goated idea
oh my god yes
honestly either option is fine
you can choose to stop scaling holo and you still have good xmult
They go on and on
Honestly i cant put up with that
Yeah
irrational numbers are just integers that go through their teenage emo phase and then become rational as they reach their mid 20s
Got into a Madness run on black deck gold stake 🔥
still lost
Wait you mean either option like keeping holo vs selling it for order?
I meant selling troub vs holo
Ah okay
black deck
i decided against taking measure theory this semester and apparently the course is hard as balls
Sell all your jokers except for blueprint, put steel on the king, pivot to baron mime with your 28 dollars ❤️
What do i do?
yeah I've heard the same p much everywhere but it also depends on the prof
It's crazy cause i'm playing full houses
invisible is just mid here ngl
took algebra instead 😇
riffraff sell both every round is a neg farm
I love Thread Storm
gets nerfed
wait negative riff raff generates negative jokers ?
no it just gens jokers fast
so i get more neg chance
Holy peak 😭😭😭😭🙏
imagine loll
BEST joker in the game
fr
it can
sell the weakest Triboulet ig
I don't believe you twin
ok
😔
riff raff can make negative Joker
nice
just like negative riff raff can
heres how i visualize all the different types of numbers:
natural/whole numbers: group of toddlers somewhere in elementary school or kindergarten
integers: children that just started middle school
irrationals: teenagers going through a dark emo phase in high school
rationals: 20-30 year old workforce working blue collar jobs
imaginaries: middle aged, going through midlife crises but still doing stuff
complex: old and retired, not doing much but still helping support the other numbers
does this make sense to anyone but me
this is a nat 20
yes
I used to be in Electrical engineering
wait is that a blueprint
i don’t see it tbh
I hate Bloodstone
riff raff can also do this
yea
daily bloodstone hate
why seed money have a gold sticker?
showman my GOAT giving me blueprint photo in 2 rerolls
Showman is indeed the man
ok the ratio is 2 chad 3 photo right
yes
yay
Activar windows
peak got a riffraff to ante 8
Unfortunate invisible trigger
unfortunate but still works
no :/
chips important to make early madness work
rip
you can try for aces
maybe it will be enough
crazy buffoon pack
it will not be enough
dont tempt me with a good time jimbo
should i get ancient?
Well speak of the devil, died to not getting a single glass card for cryptid into vessel

no
ok ok
How do I beat jokerless tf
Why is there a "dead" written after your name
Almost makes me WISH you were
replace photo with ancient tbh
What do i sell for dna?
DarkViperAU's discord tag
HOLY SHIT greatest ankh of all time
Hey bro, I think you should copy
???
How are you this far on this infamous seed and still no deck fixing
Is it worth
Idk bro
What do i do?
Restart and prioritize money from Perkeo
And then maybe build towards observatory
Or
Continue
And try get as far as possible
But you don't need DNA if you're going retriggers
Just money
😭
Do I replace a joker with OA6?
Depends on what you're going for
Ride the bus on that deck is crazy btw lol
Polychrome as well
It's abandoned deck
phew
Dead to bossblin
With space joker, I'd say maybe replace like Runner for Oops
And get yourself some lucky cards
I would say raised fist but you don't have any mult rn
this has to be ragebait
I'm thinking of dropping odd todd
perishable anyways oh well
It's perishable so good
But don't you dare think about losing out on that overstock
You on the bossblind next?
That's rough buddy
Is this enough money for Vagabond?
you are never squeezing a single tarot out of him again
Bro's a little light on the money front
u need a lil bit more
I love Tarots. Thanks for the Fortune Teller
I rage reset, woulda lost either way
Ehh not a good thing to do
Just need to build money back up, and you're fine
Not a good start but certainly still salvagable
There’s never enough money for vagabond (unbiased trust)
pretty good actually
if i get a trip ace with +20 mult from the lucky
Perishable tag is the cherry on top
No way. All money gone!
The game's literally teasing you
pluebrint
should i swap with the +chips or the +mult
LITERALLY
ehh which deck is this
blue red stake
+Chips, especially with the Xmult there
yeah true
this
3 of a kind my beloved
Oh and the foil :p
As if you couldn't already afford it
Foiled again
RIP goated run, i had retcon but clicked go next like a dumbass
Truth
The serpent feels more like a buff than a challenge
Not necessarily
Explain
I've lost gold stakes before to the serpant
Needing to play multiple 5 card hands is a bitch on there
Is this cuz of a specific build
But discarding 1 card and getting 3 is op
sometimes u wanna discard 5 or play 5 several times in a row
Yes but you get 2 discards on gold stake, and I was barely pushing the score
Yes
Rebate impossibler
Golden ticket
Any attempts to make money
It's good for high card or pairs but for anything else on a stake that's not white stake, which is always beatable anyway or you're on a challenge. It can be difficult
Obviously every boss blind is situational
The club isn't going to matter if you have no clubs in your deck, but it's a disaster if you have all clubs in your deck
Serpent does screw you if you rely on 5-card hands
Yorick heard me talking shit and he was taking none of it
or if you rely on a few specific cards and can normally see most of your deck
shifting blame again today are we
Yes a lot of people think you can see a lot of your deck with the serpent but in reality you're just drawing the cards to your deck all at once, not being able to dig down like you would anything else
Did it without selling a joker
necessarily it's two cards less digging per discard and hand you have

Yes, and if you wanna discard 5 at a time, that's not good either.
With the sole exception of flush of course
its kinda good for getting big hands I guess
there should be a challenge deck next update that has every boss blind as serpent
Always. When it doesn't come my way 🤣
That's the only thing it's good for
It's amazing with a mime, and a fixed deck
I'm not going off of a high score perspective, just winning the serpent in a gold stake scenario
Or baron with a majority deck of kings
it's a statistical nightmare for an aj hand
what if they changed serpent so that you always drew one fewer card than you played/ discarded
🤪
Then highscores are infinitely harder
I think the serpent is balanced as it is
yeah it's usually a non threat
i think the problem that you're having here w/r/t castle is that you're using it on white stake endless
but that's within the current meta standards
No I think it does what a boss blind should do, provides a challenge based on the build you may or may not have.
it affects like a quarter of a certain type of build
castle is like one of the most ante 8 jokers in the game
reminder that roffle hates castle for this same dumb reason (it blocked him from an endless pivot)
You play a boss blind that debuffs a suit that you don't have at all in your deck or just don't rely on at all, then it's the easiest boss blind in the world. But if you have all of that suit then it is a nightmare, the boss blinds are situational and will always provide a challenge to certain builds or makes all builds less effective so gotta hope that you're strong enough
How'd it block him? Was it eternal?
probably
well the suit bosses have additional restrictions like reducing value generation
serpent is almost always beneficial
soup bosses
love me some club soup
the only roffle video that i've watched was where he picked up ceremonial dagger early on gold stake and just constantly complained about how much dagger sucks while scaling it up to like +80 over the course of the run
hi
Not always
hello
Again, depends on the build you have
theres a button in game linking here!
idt ive ever had serpent not be either neutral or a benefit lol
probably not a good thing for his impresionable viewers
Honestly I don't find Roffle's content very entertaining so I usually stay away from it
almost always
I didn't know
Depends on the build you have
Anyways cool to be here
sure just like seance is good depending on the deck you built
You clearly don't get enough potassium
but its almost always garbage
No offense, it's just not for me.
look inside
Agony
Hold on I'll show my most commonly used cards
Curious on what people think
different conversation thread lol
Where do I go for that?
but prepare for judgement
😅
no here is fine I just was talking to someone else
Ah
Exactly, all jokers, cards, boss blinds are situational. Seance is amazing if you go for straight flushes, not if you don't. It just comes down to how much of the time they are good on average
wireless device
looks inside
wires
K jokers
ok but you're replying to literally any evaluation of anything with "it depends" is useless
Judgement is for sure top 22 tarot cards
if the depends is 1% of the time its not relevant
fiber optic Ethernet cable
i picked up seance exactly one time on gold stake (for the sticker) and
- i got it to proc a decent number of times and even played a straight flush to beat the final boss
- i was only able to do this because i also had hallucination and was in a really safe spot w/r/t scoring
- it gave me absolute garbage
did you get to blueprint it
Seance is def top 150 jokers of all time
I got blueprint buckaneer on the first challenge run 10 minutes ago
I've never used séance in gold stake
no
i'd even say it's top 147
What’s below seance aside from idol and showman
Lost at ante 11 and I never ended up using a double tag 😭
baron
Truth nuke
I've only took séance for getting the sticker on it and that's all
i don't think baron is below seance
I accidentally skipped a negative tag aswell 💔💔
At least séance is x1.5 mult for baseball card, I guess
sometimes you end up with a bunch of kings organically
you dont end up with straight flush builds by accident
unreliable value generation is fine, unreliable scoring is useless
how do you increase the stake?
beat previous stake
Honestly hot take but I don’t really understand the showman hate, I can slightly get why it’s hated but not really. Usually losing a joker slot for utility that can be sold at anytime isn’t really an issue no?
guys I'M GONNA DO IT
and how do you do that?
it is actively detrimental to value generation
Most of the time you need all 5 joker slots, and all their value to get full power of a run.
seance turns suit changers into spectrals (if you're lucky). there's a nonzero chance of getting something out of it outside of a strush build
How so?
It can make shops and packs worse
blocking consumable cards so they cant appear in shop/packs is a big part of optimization
For little to no gain usually
and showman disables that
If you're actively digging to get a copy of one joker, while not blocking anything is an ineffiecient way of trying to win a run
showman would be viable if it only affected jokers
And losing out on 1 joker slot
like a different version of invis
showman copies aren't even good copies though
I think showman fits better as a voucher and not a joker ngl
they don't start with scaling
had giftcard swash egg lol
not being able to turn it off is awful
Hot take; I think we should be able to sell vouchers
i usually don't want to wait two rounds to get a copy of a joker so i'm not going to wait 50 rounds to get a worse copy of a joker maybe
Welllllll that’s a perfect canio setup!!
Oh hell no, yeah the only reason I am not agreeing with showman being utterly useless is cause it can be sold, having it be a voucher you need for c would suck
ui nightmare
I mostly think of it as a way worse invis joker
invis is bad
But applies to consumables
😭 ?
well, it's like b tier. it's extremely overrated
Winmore
Baron is the most overrated
I think of it as invis but more expensive
Baron isn’t rated highly in the first place though

Invis usually is
Vouchers with tags
Eternal voucher
Or at least more often than baron
i wonder what's been going on in r/balatro
thats fine, theyre still copies and plenty of non-scalers or retroactives exist
Yeah but I don’t think invis is a win more
plus showman is uncommon, not rare, it shouldnt be as powerful as invis
It kinda is
I’d say something like idol by definition is a win more
It doesn’t help you that much if you don’t already have a good joker
Nah I think it's a good idea. Being able to sell a voucher for half the price, you're getting the value you need that voucher off of and being able to sell it afterwards to reverse the effect but with the downside of it being able to pop up again
What usually goes on in there?
Blocking other voucherts
Vouchers by design are permanent (i think)
Attention bait posts
They’re supposed to be like perks or items
Passive
And unremovable
big egg
dumb question, does ankh work on rocket?
Perk-a-cola
Sucks that they sometimes suck
Also like irl why would you unredeem a voucher
yes
That’s silly
every joker
Nice swash combo
lol
yeah i had egg giftcard and swash lol
a copy of a non-scaling xmult is about as good as another non-scaling xmult
sold the giftcard for banana
You’re cookin
I think they're asking if the Rocket keeps its value when duplicated
well I more mean, does it do anything, using ankh on a trading card doesn't do anything if I'm correct
in that case yes it does
i mean yea
same with invis
Baron
do i take hit the road
also i just got it
hit the road and its a picture of a jack like the song hit the road jack
you still get 2 tcards and they both give you $3, but yea multiple copies of some jokers dont have any different effect
i hate that song
wth is the middle shop item lol
arrowhead seems really good here
nvm
chariot
it says "charot
i cant read
i
🙏
its ok forigv u
I don't like you. Specifically for those tarot designs
rocket isnt one tho
sonic
i meant like how many jacks
its more things like splash, four fingers, etc that dont have special effects with 2 copies
💔
???
I got 1 right here
i mean like you only have 4 jacks but ig u could get out of splash maybe
what does the mouth boss blind do?
you can only play one hand type
like, if you play a pair, if the hand you play isnt a pair you won't get scoring for it
like spades or diamonds or so?
Black Deck is fucking done, I never have to play it again
showman is the best joker in the game because it allows you to get more copies of showman (the best joker in the game, as previously established)
after playing your first hand, any other hand type scores no points
no, like pair, or straight
oh
it's the best deck
proof by assertion 🔥
circular logicigol ralucric
got brainstorm in ante 1 after buying a free shop tag
or skipping for one rather
it is now polychrome
I am very happy
I'm screwed if I go against the goad
anyone else is struggling with plasma deck really hard ?
at what stake does coupon tag become no longer worth it
No how?
its tough
its eXtremely difficult on gold stake
(a1 small blind specifically)
it's garbage on gold stake because of rentals, but is it garbage on orange stake too?
Chips are goated on plasma, if you manage to get retriggers and arrowhead, along with a bunch of spades then you're golden
is it worth white stake even?
or red stake I guess would be ideal for it
i would think so
For endless yes, for the base game, probably no
2.4mil is too much for chips
idk its only like $20 of value
You're not required 2.4 mil?
It's 800k right?
playing the small blind isn't much value
I still have never bought seance
Unless you got the violet vessle
wrong!!!
Then you're fucked
you get one more chance to find scoring
specifically for ante 1
you have to account for violet vessel to play plasma consistently
wrong!!!
That is correct
Yeah
looks inside
900 chips isnt consistently gettable
Wait what?
i mean it's enough value for almost every skip to be not worth it. but i think that below, say, purple stake, a free shop is more value
well not lose to it, but lose a level to it
yeah probably
ive been doing goldstake black deck for the past 4 hours i want to punch my monitor
Jimbo who forgot luxury tax(we won but lost endless to ante 10 the goad)
I would use time travel to go back and tell thunk not to add endless mode to the game
This is ridiculous
I don't like the people thinking that certain jokers are good because of highscore runs
I hate it so much, the meta is so fucking boring and the gameplay is so boring and slow
That's your opinion though
and there's constantly noobs walking in from high score YouTube videos thinking that endless Jokers are good in every situation
It's the worst
and you don't have to play it
I would have it removed for the good of the game
It's actually correct
People can play anyway they like, it's selfish of you for removing it because of your opinion
new run should take up the big portion of the end game screen
they would never have the opportunity to see an inferior version of the game and mistakenly like it
if I go back in time and remove it
Maybe instead of removing it I would call it something that is not "endless" because it was clearly designed to make you lose faster
this is the epitome of a "you problem"
nevermind it doesn't matter, i have 2 xmult jokers
"I don't like the way other people play a game I like"
actually, if you like endless then it's sort of your problem
Endless gives replayability to balatro, a goal for when you complete the game. This is a you problem, endless is one of the main reasons why balatro has KEPT mainstream appeal. Because people like seeing number go up
I don't really care about mainstream appeal
naneinf
many of us wouldn't be here chatting right now without mainstream appeal ngl
do i also sell burnt or
And no one cares about your appeal so we're equal there
what do i choose?
no
You seem very mad that I would go back in time and remove the worst part of the game
invis is active if it wasnt clear
invis is always a little bit clear
it has translucency
._.
take vaga?
how is endless the worst part of the game
I'm not annoyed that you're doing it, I'm annoyed that you feel the need to comment on a part of a game that people enjoy just because you personally don't like it. Even if LocalThunk doesn't like it, he (I assume) agrees that it has its benefits and that's why he's kept it
it flattens the meta into only a few builds that are both boring to set up and boring to wait through
no
I only play endless to gauge how far my winning build actually gets
That's the case with pretty much every score based roguelite
asking for the removal of a game mode just because you don't enjoy it is never a reasonable request, in any game
how so
Baron and Idol
I know that's why I would go back in time before it existed in the first place
It's actually amazing that ante 8 is so well balanced
those are good in a few runs
It is LocalThunk cooked
I mean I couldn't really care what other games are doing
you dont have to play endless
and complaining about the balatro "meta" is stupid when its a single player game
I know I don't have to play endless, but also its existence means that discussion of its meta leaks into what I consider good conversations
The game would have been better off if endless mode was just the most popular mod for balatro
ngl, I see ccg discussions often have the same problem
I doubt it would be
Okay? But you have to compare Balatro to other roguelites in order to get a feel as to how good it is, removing endless is a downside because that is a oneup as to what balatro could have been
And yeah I get this reasoning, but the pros outweigh the cons
rotating format enjoyers tend to hate on eternal format enjoyers and ask for their format removed so they could get shorter queue times or something
I don't value balatro getting more sales or being ultra relevant in the public eye, I value game discussion
A lot of conversations wouldn't be had if Balatro wasn't as popular as it is now
localthunk probably does
But that's a very simple minded speculation into what you think a game should be
If you're making a game, you want it to sell
and the game probably wouldn't be as polished as it is currently without the mass popularity of it
Not to just be what you want it to be
I mean he didn't expect this game to sell at all, however happy he is that he's extremely rich now
I’m not excited for any of these challenges, but I want something
So far judgement is winning
complaining about the meta is not stupid if it's a single player game.
if the best way to win is really boring then youre basically just making it so the people who want to win have to either be more bored or be worse at winning.
And it didn't have endless at first. He made it so that when he saw it could sell, it'd keep pushing the community to new heights, even if that wasn't his goal at the start, or even at all, it's still a thing to think about when selling something
You could ask for separate #gold-stake-discussions and #endless-discussions and that would solve your problem
Chat was there any news about the 2025 update drop?
that it isnt dropping in 2025
This is a good idea
Delayed to 2026?
anyways I think it's clear that I wasn't talking about how this would increase the balatro sales
delayed to "it's done when it's done"
Somebody break the tie between red only and use every judgement
and even clearer that I'm just saying I dislike endless and wish I didn't have to see discussion of it
so you dont like endless because people arent talking about what you want to talk about
no
Ok thanks (time to install it again with mods)
zebra doesnt like endless, and so doesnt like when people talk about endless.
Not exactly
I don't like endless because endless is boring
my most anticipated change in the 1.1 update is that the endless mode button might be made smaller
I would very much like to see that implemented in this server. Concentrating those aspects to this game discussion channel just generates bad vibes
I enjoy endless
and I don't like endless discussion because endless discussion is similarly boring
That's your opinion
bloodstone or blue joker ?
what joker do i switch out?
Alright every joker I use must contain red in the card art wins
how many hearts are in your deck
I think it’s only fair I use red deck
you dont!
blue joker
blue imo bloodstone is so inconsistent if you dont have dice or lots of retriggers on hearts
it's objectively less variety than the base game, and while that's not an objective measure of how entertaining something is, it's a metric of some sort
why?
splash isnt good
ok
i think there are some aspects of the game design that make it so that there's objectively less variance
for instance: endless mode isn't designed, it's an emergent consequence of ante 8 design
this is true, endless big number builds basically all wind up going down one of few roads
the foil
hold up
either red seal glass hack, red seal glass sock with stuff like idol, ancient, trib, photo
i might be making a flush house build
Well either way, endless doesn't have to be a one build high score situation. I use endless sometimes just to see how far my build can go. It shouldn't just end at ante 8, just as a personal goal and that's what endless is.
I've just now noticed
Is this to play lucky cards along with scoring hands?
Perhaps the score requirement should scale slower only for the endless blinds and leave the first 8 untouched? That might allow a larger variety of avenues to go down and give it more of that "endless" feel
questionable joker setup here fr
I mean that's fair enough, I used to do the same
Nah it's gets to a point where the scaling doesn't matter past endless anyway
ive had some fun endless runs
endless scaling is turned up massively for a reason although I'm not entirely sure if it's necessary
Because you're not off by +chips, you're off by multiple factors
had a canio get to like 25X because i had a dna copying face cards and kept running into hanged man in my tarot packs
and now ? spectral pack on ante 5
honestly I thought you'd like the proposition considering how passionate you are against endless
then got a brainstorm when i already had 2 blueprints
look, i really have no idea what im doing. just taking what looks good. i only started p[laying yesterday
ahh fair lol welcome to the community
WHAT THE FUCK
thanks
ggs buddy hold that R key for me
im on ps5 😔
should i aces and then cryptid ?
ggs buddy main menu ts for me
endless needs the absurd scaling i think. if it continued to scale more or less exponentially i probably would've played exactly 2 runs of balatro then never play it again
so if I dont get luchador I lose the game
id sell the less useful stuff and hope to ecto the blueprint trust
totally good advice
🙏
i've heard that a lot of roguelikes with endless modes fall into the trap of making them actually endless and therefore mind-numbingly boring
I'm not saying that you don't have good arguments man, I don't like the conversations of people assuming jokers are objectively good because of a big number on white stake in endless. But, endless is an inheritantly good thing for the game even without highscore runs, and because of the mainstream appeal that endless brings to balatro, more players are coming in (whether endless nancies or not) and giving LocalThunk the attention he deserves on his wellbuilt game
i just have to keep buffing flush house and hope
yea idk what I would've thought of endless had it been tamer scaling
yesss it did wow, and now cryptid on stone card ?
If it had tamer scaling, it'd be even slower
yea it would be the same situation but with absurdly longer runs
i still would be fine with the endless mode button not existing tbh
i dont think its perfect but i wouldnt want it to be changed
what should i do neXt ?
i love photochad
ok next is violet vessel, which is fine
I mean yeah what difference could be made to make it better?

I beat violet vessel easily
Coolio bro, now you can play the game without fear
actually i dont love photochad
cryptid on kings for more money or duplicate stone cards ?
just make a glass card
you are now in my shoes
i dont think theres any way to reconcile endless coded jokers with ante 8 coded jokers into a cohesive meta
Look man. You just gotta chicken dinner this shit
Pray for me that my rare joker contains red 🙏
Ummm... sure thing I think I can work with this hand
i have glass kings man
build variety in endless [generally] is way lower than for ante 8, so an improvement for endless would be fixing that, but i wouldnt want to do that because having more things that are balanced for endless means less things, proportionally, balanced for ante 8
YES A LUCHADOR
pls help whats the best play here
I do like the way the extreme scaling of endless blinds necessitates a strategy change. The pivot from flat and xMult to exponential retriggers is interesting to me
grinding to gold stake black deck
That's really funny
:p
maybe have a set of jokers that only appear in endless
jesus that was a tough seed
that just seems super iffy
certainly changes a lot
what should i do here ?
Bruh wtf were you doing
you have to deal with how that affects joker stickers, and also locking content behind a specific mode/deck/achievement state... etc isnt a good idea imo
He was doing the balls to the wall run
I was in class
At least I can use it…
i wouldn't. i need it to screenshot winning runs
I've always felt that ante 16/24/32 bosses should give stickers as well anyways
Should have been playing at peak performance bro
Also mime does contain red if I get it.
only if you didnt disable it by revealing seed though ofc, would need a button for that
did this first try
had to savescum on one boss blind because my dumbass forgot to scale runner
i dont like this because it would actively encourage endless gameplay for gold stickers
I mean in this hypothetical version of the game there would be changes made so other things make sense
just make a mod atp
meh most builds dont make it to 16 anyways and its faster to just play another ante 8 run
do uhhhh
oh fun, I've always complained about not being able to gold sticker jokers at ante 32 this was a much needed change
unless you mean like, baron mime from the start every time which SUCKS on gold stake
how is it faster to just play another ante 8 run [and reach ante 8] and go from ante 8 to ante 16
it would mostly be an easter egg tbh
mime + 1 gold card go brrrrr
is it not
ngl i feel this would be broken tho in certain cases
like say u get a mime baron run on gold stake which is hard to get but not impossible
u can just farm negatives
this would be a piece of a counterargument against balatro balanced around ante 8 idk
😭 please just answer the question. its not a gotcha, im not implying that it ISNT faster im just asking for evidence for your claim
if you beat ante 8, you already have a great deck
meaning you dont gotta do all the nerd shit
Not for endless, necessarily
ante 1-8 id consider more timespending than ante 8-16
well if im gonna beat blue stake black deck second try ever this is gonna be it
idk if u can ask for a better start
you can ignore stickers for a8 and then go for stickers in endless where your econ is setup and your deck is more fixed etc
in this scenario, it takes longer for stickers
was simply a vibe
source: i made it up
ante 39 sticker
yeah thats what i said lol like think about it
u can just get baron mime
and reroll for infinite negatives
it is gold stake though
baron mime is hard on gold stake but not impossible
its not trivial to just "get" to ante 16 every time
true... thats another thing
C++ meta would be just doing crimson bean and getting like 50 negatives
then going to a24 or a32
bruh
im fine with it's existence i just wish people ignored it completely in balance discussions
so, in conclusion, "endless" is a misused word. Wonderful
did you try the seed avery recently failed or was it only me
Attempt 1 failed
if you press "new run" it can actually roll the same seed, so the term is misused as it doesnt have to be a new run! /strawman
i mean endless literally ends
Runner is actually a good joker
endless does end. If not by a specific build, it ends with the ante 39 required scoring
akshually you have to score nan
not naneinf
rephrased
nan isn't bigger than naneinf, nor is it smaller or equal
it's within the formula spectrum
Nan isnt a number so you cannot compare to nan
that leaves only one option
it's an imaginary number
ding ding ding
naneinf is literally nothing with infinite zeroes
so its 0
i can score 0 easy enough
you arent young sheldon
how
zero is nothing
that is actually what 0 means.
i
I can use both, and this will be fantastic Econ if I pull it off.
zero is a number that means none.
something that is NOT a number would be "blue" for example :3
ok
what am i doing wrong ? i could find any mult X jokers and my run died because chips arent sufficient
are you just gonna go on the psychic and play a bunch of 1 card hands
you score ∞, the game converts it into scientific notation which is floor(log(∞)) characteristic (this is ∞) and ∞/exp(floor(log(∞))) mantissa (this is nan)
however, multiplying nan * exp(∞) doesn't retrieve back the same ∞ it started with, it gives nan
pedantrymax
Are you for real, I have more spades than any other card in this deck
this is not how it works
i shouldnt have ectoed the blueprint
Challenge: Can only USE jokers with red in their card art.
Ruling: If I use judgement and get a joker without red, do I have to restart or do I just have to instantly sell it?
does a single red pixel count
and what counts as red
What defines as red by normal human eyes, and a single pixel counts.
i mean its ur challenge u should decide lol but imo just instant sell
first naneinf and fastest naneinf of my life
L glitch
"by normal human eyes" 😭 what do you MEAN
colour is subjective
no glitch
Lilo wants the exact hex code
the hex codes of the pixels aren't subjective
ff0000 only
pedantrymaxxing 🔥
i mean deciding something is red instead of more of the other primary colors is objective
which is not what they said
I think it’s fair enough to know what is considered as red, I’m making sure there’s no ifs ands or buts about what counts as red.
main card color is primarily red
not counting the background
if you look at it and think red it's red
but yea if i was doing a color joker challenge it would have to be the majority of the card/joker figure
No, the challenge text that won the vote was “I can only use jokers that contain red in the card art.”
Not that are mainly red
Just contain is good enough
lame
ante 2 voucher what
scared to do the big boy challenge
I didn’t choose this challenge in particular over the other 5.
she nacho on my tong
why are all jokers so bad in this game
blue+yellow
you're playing green deck baby
someone hasn't used splash
i couldnt even win plasma gold with negative blueprint
a large window of interpretation absolutely does not make sure there's "no ifs and or buts about what counts as red"
Eternal madness
I’m not gonna use a large window
and you have a slot for it
I’m using what I know will be considered as red
each card image should be waved in front of a bull
if the bull charges, it's red
I do indeed, I've jsut been pissing around this run lmao
so everything would be red
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Free xmult
bulls dont charge because of red
Problem with that is I’m wearing red.
boy oh boy
they charge because theyre pissed
Bro was typing that in before he sent it
omg!!! for realsies free money!!!!
plasma deck is insanely difficult on gold stake
No, it's not a number
did you just delete my chance at $1000
id be pissed if some loser kept waving a flag in my face too
smh my head
yeah it's just for me
paypal me immediately
should i take spare trousers ? last time it didnt do anything besides kill my run
You can compare to nan, it's just always false. Including nan == nan
reduce the pool of applicants raise my chance of victory. life is a zero sum game. better luck next time
save money
its a magical number thats above and below itself
is the best joker in the game splash???
its imaginary
can you paypal me $3000 usd
thats not what imaginary means in math
say no if youre incorrect
yes. i could. next question
Would this be red? (Referring to order) also I thought I knew red but this is the iffiest examples I’ve seen so far, I would say no but I want your guys’ opinion.
no you couldn't little baby poor boy
all numbers are imaginary
that's salmon
so no
thats legally binding. my lawyers will be in touch
"imaginary number" is a very silly misnomer. it does exist, just on the complex plane
i thought i was your lawyer
he didnt say he will
he has the capability
I'd say this is close enough
be expecting a call from yourself shortly
tried to call line is busy
dang it
so what only fake numbers get to be complex and the rest are just dumb simple numbers
We have one vote for is red and one vote for isn’t red, which doesn’t help
It doesn’t
First impressions about zodiac: fun af
Stone Joker lol
i love pokemon
you mean not above and not below itself
if its not above its below and if its not below its above, easy
theyre called real numbers and complex numbers
yeah but can you prove P=NP
nope
yeah but i wont show you
and the real ones are naneinf?
is green joker good
Yes
that is not a number, so no.
this is one of those times formal logic works but also doesn't work
im shitposting my face off rn
because everyone is using squishily defined terms
I’m just not gonna use the order, I said no when offered devious joker which is I believe the same color just slightly darker, and my current build is two pair/full house anyways
Should I take stone lol, I don't think run will last long anyway or should I try to win still
this is why statutes have a definitions section!!!
it's hard to understand the difference between letters and numbers
It's all good
define deez nuts
This might actually be a time where just based Observatory is useful
gottem
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oh shit i actually pnged mons my bad
shocking
sory dont ban this guy he nice guy probably
banned
you idot
lmao
you rang?
no sory
what is so shocking good sir or ma'am or neither
the phone broken
yeah whats up lawyer
holy shit saul goodman
i need advice
nothing much what's updog with you
wow vonnegut only been here since last week?
im new here i'm so random xD teh penguin of DOOM
I know, i am a feeble and small man
bet bro doesnt know about the narwhal baconing at midnight
a humorous trend established in the 2010s as a type of "gotcha" joke in the same vein of "guess what? chicken butt" or knock knock joke punchlines
bet bro doesn't know do you have stairs in your house i'm protected
thanks, that one had me confused
What would y'all think about a joker that retriggers the discards effects? As in, you get 2 tarots for 1 purple seal and double the chips for castle, double the money from mail in rebate or even get X2 each time with yorick? Wouldnt that would be cool?
the what
vonnegut do you got games on your phone?
I was thinking about this in my way home on the bus
i want red seals to do this already, and for there to be a joker for it too yes
it predates 2010 by a far margin
Fuck I hope a flush without spade is enough, should be
yes i have balatro and robinhood
