🕹・game-discussion

[atomic kiln]

not really the biggest fan of square or green joker
but theyre okay together

[lunar zealot]

yknow because tarots are definitely better than 155 dollars

[atomic kiln]

i mean that late probably :p (if ur not going endless)

[lunar zealot]

OH COME ON

REALLY

ANTE 8

[atomic kiln]

dna this late?

[lunar zealot]

son of a bitch

[atomic kiln]

ong they knew u had holo

[lunar zealot]

QBSJKDFGKJBWR COME ON MAN

REALLY???

ANTE 8

WOW

[atomic kiln]

BREH

[lunar zealot]

WOWWWWWWW

vSON OF AS BITCH

NO FUCKING SHOT

WHAT

[atomic kiln]

THREE? 7 w 7

[lunar zealot]

OH HI

[atomic kiln]

.w.

[lunar zealot]

good fuckin god

optimal to sell license here

awesome

what an idiotic run

[atomic kiln]

yippee

kinda hope they end up buffing square joker maybe, feels a lil underwhelming most the time

not really sure how youd go around buffing it tho

[lunar zealot]

it's fine the way it is

consistent 16 chips per round already outscales mercury's +15 chips per use

and that's all you really need

[atomic kiln]

i mean i feel like compaired to runner its kinda eh

[lunar zealot]

runner isn't as splashable as square is

[atomic kiln]

fair
i mean im probably biased with me being pretty against pairs/high cards since they scale quite slow

[lunar zealot]

how are you 133/150 and don't like pairs

[atomic kiln]

[tidal otter]

I’m obsessed with spare trousers

[atomic kiln]

spare trousers ma beloved

[lunar zealot]

it's a really good +mult joker

[tidal otter]

Level fuckin 15 two pair and +50 mult

[lunar zealot]

probably like top 2

[tidal otter]

It’s so peak

[lunar zealot]

the only real flaw with spare trousers is that it's kind of unintuitive

in that you rarely want to actually use uranus and level two pair up

[floral mural]

they can play every hand each round usually and score full on it theyre far from slow scaling

also hand scalers can easily scale pairs at a great rate since you play multiple hands to scale it

[lunar zealot]

well high card isn't played because one of the chief reasons is it scales slow early

not the full reason

no see2/duo/obelisk synergy

[atomic kiln]

[alpine hollow]

it does allow you to spam stones

[lunar zealot]

so do pairs

[floral mural]

pairs are joker based scoring rather than purely planets is how id explain it

[atomic kiln]

yea
i mean i tend to like to score mainly from planets midgame so i can focus a lil more on resource gens if possible

[floral mural]

joker scoring is good so theyre good since theyre very spammable

[zenith musk]

What deck should I play?

[tidal otter]

67

[floral mural]

using hand scalers like square and green is like paying a dollar for permanant gurranteed scaling so theyre a worthy investment early on

[lunar zealot]

whatever you want lmao

[atomic kiln]

honestly just whatever one you like the most
though the easiest is probably yellow

[zenith musk]

You choose one

[floral mural]

but everyone plays whatever they want and thats ok

[atomic kiln]

yea

[lunar zealot]

are you a child

play the deck you want to play

[atomic kiln]

ive been very up n down when it comes to green n square

[zenith musk]

Bro js choose one idk what I wanna play I suck at the game

[lunar zealot]

painted

[atomic kiln]

feel like generally i prefer ride the bus to green

[lunar zealot]

bus is generally better

[floral mural]

for me i try and go for pair spam unless something else wants a different hand to be played

in my runs

[lunar zealot]

its only real weakness is that it costs 6 dollars

[zenith musk]

Isn’t that one horrible?

[lunar zealot]

no

who told you that

[zenith musk]

1 less joker

[lunar zealot]

who told you painted is bad

[zenith musk]

I used to play black deck😭

[atomic kiln]

ruh roh .w.

[zenith musk]

Nobody but I just thought that

[floral mural]

painted isnt bad its just a bit awkward since 4 joker slots means taking survival eternals is far worse

[trail holly]

best +mult scaling joker and INSANELY good for gold stake, it's an s tier joker for me

[lunar zealot]

you thought that

[split talon]

Bruteforcing plasma deck with +mult and xmult

[floral mural]

you can win with 4 slots

[atomic kiln]

[lunar zealot]

generally you should get used to winning with 4 slots

sometimes even 3

otherwise getting c++ is a herculean task

[zenith musk]

But how

Cuz like

1 for like deck fixing

1 for mult

[lunar zealot]

the general formula is scaling +chips joker, scaling +mult joker, xmult jokers

[zenith musk]

1 for x mult

1 for chips

[trail holly]

you cant really plan out your game in higher stakes unfortunately

[lunar zealot]

painted means deckfixing is far from necessary

[atomic kiln]

real

[trail holly]

sometimes the game just gives you shitty jokers and you gotta work with what you get

[lunar zealot]

and painted means rather than investing in something like bus you can go all in with saturn

[floral mural]

black decks by far the least consistent deck tho. 6 slots do nothing early game and youre sabotaged hand wise

[lunar zealot]

not that pairs are bad on painted

[alpine hollow]

deckfixing isnt ever nesseracy to win

[floral mural]

that 1 less hand is brutal

[atomic kiln]

is just easier to get riskier hands on painted since u can discard more cards if ur gowing for em generally

[zenith musk]

U could just buy the grabber

[atomic kiln]

real ;-;

[zenith musk]

Makes it easier tho

[trail holly]

the game can just not give you it

[lunar zealot]

ah yes let me spawn grabber from the aether

[atomic kiln]

less compounding interest early game, less scaling time etc

[alpine hollow]

that will randomly appear, costing $10

[floral mural]

painted and abandoned deck both offer the same benefit of bigger hands being easier in different ways

[zenith musk]

😭😭I always get it

[floral mural]

prefer abandoned personally

[atomic kiln]

i love abandoned deck ~w~

[lunar zealot]

the best argument of all time

'it happens to me'

[zenith musk]

Alr imma try painted

[lunar zealot]

truly infallible

[atomic kiln]

being able to see almost my entire deck most the time is

[zenith musk]

Bro it ain’t a argument

Alr sure

Black deck is ba

D

[floral mural]

yes let me buy the 10 dollar voucher ante 1 on black deck with no cash

if it wver spawns

[zenith musk]

😭😭

Mb guys

[trail holly]

econ in black deck is miserable

[atomic kiln]

beating ante 2 can be a struggle on black deck gold stake half the time

[zenith musk]

What does gold do?

[trail holly]

if you dont get an early mail in rebate you bet your ass youre gonna be at 3$ all the time

[alpine hollow]

Sometimes when im struggling ill just play the 5-Card Draw challenge and things become better

[atomic kiln]

think its blue stake that adds -1 discard

and orange/gold just make jokers have more debuffs

[alpine hollow]

Rental Stickers: Costs $1 in shop, you lose $3 when the round ends while you have it

[zenith musk]

Oo alr

[trail holly]

youre putting that nitro to work 😭

[atomic kiln]

real

[alpine hollow]

omg whypher emojis is based

[atomic kiln]

[zenith musk]

What hands are only possible with deck fixing?

[trail holly]

flush five, five of a kind, and flush house

[atomic kiln]

id probably say anything over 3 of a kind
unless u mean literally

[floral mural]

consistently speaking id say 4 of a kind as well

[zenith musk]

OOOO FLUSH HOUSE

[zenith musk]

Yh true

[trail holly]

if we are talking consistency too then id say 4oak and straight flush too

[floral mural]

straights can be played without fixing but you generally want it

[atomic kiln]

straight flush isnt tooo bad in some circumstances but yea on most decks its pretty unobtainable by ante 8

[floral mural]

every big hand wants fixing since it lowers the chance of awful draws

[atomic kiln]

straights

[atomic kiln]

[floral mural]

i love straights as a hand type

[zenith musk]

To get higher antes do ppl focus low hands or high

[floral mural]

hell 3 of a kind wants fixing too if it wants to be played more than once or twice a round

[trail holly]

i love straights but i hate playing for them in blue stake+ games since its miserable to draw them without any deck fixing

[floral mural]

for me its play for pairs unless a different joker comes along that wants a big hand type

[atomic kiln]

depends on the jokers generally, gotta do alot with what ur given
though it tends to mainly be pairs or flush till u find anything (or staying with pairs if high scaling)

[floral mural]

like ancient or shortcut

[trail holly]

depends on what you get

[alpine hollow]

you dont need deck fixing for 5oak, you just need enough deaths/DNA

[spiral cairn]

.

i cant post stikarz

why not

[zenith musk]

I always go for high card😭🙏

Or pair

Sometimes

[alpine hollow]

i just do flushes early antes

[atomic kiln]

pairs pretty consistent

[zenith musk]

Isn’t that just deck fixing?

[trail holly]

high card is fine but it scales pretty badly

[trail holly]

yeah thats what i do too

[spiral cairn]

perkeo + death is op for deck fixing

[alpine hollow]

high card is even more consistent

[zenith musk]

Yh true I always die on ante 9 with it

[alpine hollow]

Ante 8 is enough

[spiral cairn]

anaglyph + that tag

[atomic kiln]

doesnt scale great tho

[zenith musk]

With pair I got to ante 11 once

[spiral cairn]

can i send this

[atomic kiln]

missing out on alot of basic jokers to with high card :p

[spiral cairn]

no i cannot

[lunar zealot]

yes but worse than pairs

[trail holly]

the tag can just... not roll for high card and upgrade a different hand

[spiral cairn]

somehow mine is always high card

even though i abuse flushes

checkered deck my beloved

[trail holly]

eh idk

[lunar zealot]

anecdote moment

[trail holly]

i never use that tag

[spiral cairn]

camels eat paris

[alpine hollow]

Yeah it does. +5chips and +1mult

[atomic kiln]

i do really like checkered deck tho i do go on n off of it since it can be a bit to 2d at times

[spiral cairn]

2d?

[kindred cedar]

Is this tuff?

[lunar zealot]

i have no idea what that means

[alpine hollow]

less thinking involved

[atomic kiln]

since its kinda just playing flushes/going for flushes every time

[trail holly]

this IS tuff ❤️‍🩹

[atomic kiln]

gets a lil stale

[spiral cairn]

i mean

yeah

[atomic kiln]

ts so tuff

[spiral cairn]

thats why i try to play everything but flushes

cool challenge

well its not that hard

[kindred cedar]

I can sell blueprint while its next to invisible joker to get the effect of invisible joker right?

[spiral cairn]

but funny

[trail holly]

that wont change anything anyway

[spiral cairn]

why would you

just keep the blueprint

[alpine hollow]

why would you even do tht?

[lunar zealot]

not on mobile specifically

[kindred cedar]

5 legendaries

[spiral cairn]

its just gonna sell and give back

[trail holly]

blueprint copies your joker anyway

[kindred cedar]

Funsies

[alpine hollow]

fair enough

[trail holly]

so why even bother

[alpine hollow]

I do like how Diet Cola can be copied

[atomic kiln]

to be fair 5 legendarys is pretty sillie

[lunar zealot]

not on mobile specifically

[kindred cedar]

Have you ever had a seed which you found by yourself and got 5 legendaries

Oh cmon

[spiral cairn]

i got 2

[alpine hollow]

yes it can

[spiral cairn]

and then still lost

[kindred cedar]

The only time i play on mobile and this happens

[lunar zealot]

you cannot copy the effect of diet cola and proc it on mobile

[spiral cairn]

whats wrong with mobile

[lunar zealot]

nor can you copy and proc invis on mobile

[atomic kiln]

most ive had is like 3, and i sold 2 of em cuz they were ot late in the run

[spiral cairn]

i always play on phone

[lunar zealot]

the only way to sell a joker on mobile is by dragging it to the top right of your screen

[alpine hollow]

you can do it on mobile. I have played exclusively on mobile and it works

[lunar zealot]

thus blueprint cannot both be sold and copy diet cola/invis

[spiral cairn]

thats not much of a problem if you play fps games on your phone

[spiral cairn]

oh

bug

[alpine hollow]

it still works tho

[lunar zealot]

as by dragging it to the right it is not copying cola

[lunar zealot]

it literally does not

[alpine hollow]

it does, i swear!

[kindred cedar]

Wait quick question there is a bug on mobile where i can sell the jokers like im on pc, how do i trigger it?

[spiral cairn]

just give blueprint to the diddygods and it will give you a brainstorm back

tgotta trust

[lunar zealot]

also scratch that because blueprint is incompatible with invis anyway

[lunar zealot]

unreplicable

it happens for no reason

lua jank probably

[kindred cedar]

Absolute cinema

[lunar zealot]

is your only source anecdotes

[spiral cairn]

hey is hades 2 free

[lunar zealot]

why would it

[atomic kiln]

i really gotta get round to buying hades 2

been playing to many other new releases recently

[spiral cairn]

dih

[lunar zealot]

it's a fun game

[atomic kiln]

loved the 1st one ~w~

[lunar zealot]

like 10x more grindy than hades 1 though

which i don't appreciate

[atomic kiln]

awh

[lunar zealot]

it fixes a lot of hades 1's flaws though

[atomic kiln]

like bad grindy?

[lunar zealot]

bad grindy

[alpine hollow]

my anecdotes, yes

[atomic kiln]

awh

well if the games fun idm

[lunar zealot]

not helping your case

[alpine hollow]

Can you disprove it with evidence?

until there is concrete evidence for either side, we will be at a standstill

[kindred cedar]

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD

Good seed

[trail holly]

would be a good time for a antimatter

[atomic kiln]

wonder if u could roll the chicot bug

[kindred cedar]

Already got blank

[alpine hollow]

I see. In that case I apologise for running my mouth off and being a general idiot

My memories have been faulty, it seems

[trail holly]

damn

[atomic kiln]

would it be possible for brainstorm to do it if they were the only 2 jokers?
not really sure
i mean id assume not

[kindred cedar]

Bye bye chicot ig

[lunar zealot]

i assume it would work for brainstorm because the issue is that blueprint copying the joker to the right is conditional

brainstorm always copies the leftmost joker

[atomic kiln]

selling the best joker smh /sillies

[lunar zealot]

qed it would work with soda

[atomic kiln]

[kindred cedar]

Wait

Does that mean

Nah

[trail holly]

rip 💔

tragic fail

[alpine hollow]

How do I beat orange stake?

[kindred cedar]

I just reloaded

Its fine

[alpine hollow]

Other than getting lucky, i suppose

[kindred cedar]

• i got the seed
  E5SLYURJ

[lunar zealot]

just do what you normally do on purple stake

which is what you normally do on blue stake

which is play pairs

[kindred cedar]

I usually go for flushes

[atomic kiln]

[lunar zealot]

good for you

[alpine hollow]

because you have c++, i will take your word for it

[lunar zealot]

i'm talking to a different person

[kindred cedar]

I usually die

[trail holly]

the humble eye

[alpine hollow]

me too

[kindred cedar]

Damn

[trail holly]

yeah same i just pray to get lucky

[lunar zealot]

generally, blue stake's (current, as of patch 1.0.1f) effect of -1 discard heavily discourages playing 5-card hands due to inconsistency in being able to draw them; flush in particular gets significantly more flak due to it not providing nearly as much scaling via planets or consistent joker scaling like straights and saturn/runner, to compensate for its being a 5 card hand
in this sense the evolution of the meta has largely favored pairs due to their generally being easy to draw, easy to make use of in-hand effects such as golds and especially blue seals, and more accessible synergies with jokers such as hologram (more effectively able to scale hologram via bloating the deck if the hand played is largely unaffected by deck size hampering easiness to draw), blackboard (one can play a pair and unscored hearts/diamonds in order to always proc it) and scaling +mult jokers such as green joker (discarding for pairs is redundant)
tl;dr pair good

[trail holly]

especially on gold stake

[lunar zealot]

this isn't exhaustive but it does lay general groundwork

typically pair runs are better described as joker runs

in that the jokers do all the work rather than having to rely on playing cards being scored

[alpine hollow]

What are high crd runs called then?

[lunar zealot]

a la wrathful joker or bloodstone or what have you

[lunar zealot]

joker runs but strictly worse than pairs

there is very little reason to play high card over pair

at least in a general sense

[alpine hollow]

What about 5 stone cards at once?

[kindred cedar]

Bulwark

[lunar zealot]

you would play high cards should you obtain an obelisk so you can pivot

[kindred cedar]

(Play cryptid)

[lunar zealot]

5 stone cards is a high card

[trail holly]

high card

[trail holly]

cryptid reference

[alpine hollow]

I would never use an obelisk

[kindred cedar]

Yez

[alpine hollow]

exactly!

+250 chips base

[lunar zealot]

lol

[trail holly]

obelisk aint good but its not as bad as people make it out to be

[lunar zealot]

the first 3 words you said are wrong

[alpine hollow]

Its just not fun, in my experience

[atomic kiln]

obilisk is really strong just a lil tedious at times

[lunar zealot]

obelisk is one of the strongest jokers in the game

[atomic kiln]

agreed

[trail holly]

i think its decent not amazing not bad just decent

[alpine hollow]

Besides, it does NOT have infinite growth

[lunar zealot]

you think

what an amazing argument

[trail holly]

yeah i think

[lunar zealot]

infinite growth means nothing

all you need to do is beat 1.2 million chips to win a gold stake run

[trail holly]

it doesnt? what does it matter anyway

[atomic kiln]

they think.. therefore they thunk

[lunar zealot]

rating obelisk based on endless value is a fool's errand because 95% of jokers are worthless in endless

[trail holly]

its almost like they locally thunk... localthunk

[alpine hollow]

You cant keep it with you forever

[atomic kiln]

real

[alpine hollow]

I am not basing it on endless though

[atomic kiln]

by that definition barons an s+ tier joker ong /sillies

[lunar zealot]

if you play 14 pairs you are set for the rest of the run

[trail holly]

you can if youre not basing it on endless runs

its just that i think its a bit annoying and tedious to not play your most played hand

[pale wolf]

then yes, obelisk lasts effectively forever on ante 8 runs

[lunar zealot]

OH MY GOD ZEBRA THANK YOU

HOLY SHIT I FEEL LIKE I'M IN THE TWILIGHT ZONE

[alpine hollow]

The only proper way to play obelsik is to know in advance you will get iy

[lunar zealot]

and?

[pale wolf]

if you like use your brain and just make a stack of one hand type

[lunar zealot]

typically pair runs always play towards obelisk anyway

[atomic kiln]

[pale wolf]

You don't just constantly reset obelisk LOL

[trail holly]

if you play for pairs not really

[alpine hollow]

thats not garunteed

Im not trusting my runs that a specific rare will show up

[lunar zealot]

your claim is that obelisk is bad because balatro is a roguelike

[atomic kiln]

normally my most played hands are pair or high crd anyways so making a pivot when i need to to obelisk isnt too much of a struggle midgame

[pale wolf]

no, primarily using one hand type is pretty common, You don't need to know obelisk is coming, and you can even hold obelisk while you build for it

[lunar zealot]

pair runs are the meta

[alpine hollow]

Knowing in advance is something else though, like seeding

[lunar zealot]

it just so happens pairs naturally segue into obelisk

[pale wolf]

It's one of the fastest scaling xmult in the game and you wont need to search for it later

[lunar zealot]

you fundamentally are misunderstanding the point and are refusing to listen

[trail holly]

you don't need to set up for it if you're primarily playing for one hand type

[alpine hollow]

respectfly, I dont even know what a meta is

[alpine hollow]

my apologies :[

[pale wolf]

It's okay it's not that intuitive

[trail holly]

if youre playing for pairs and see an obelisk then youre gonna switch to a different hand type for juicy xmult

[lunar zealot]

obelisk or not pair runs are played because they are the best strategy in the game

[alpine hollow]

you called me stupid though :[

[pale wolf]

but the design concept behind obelisk is having a giant Tower of a hand type that you dance around by not playing anymore

[lunar zealot]

it just so happens that pairs naturally segue into an obelisk pivot

[lunar zealot]

holy fucking shit

yes you are stupid

is that what you want to hear

[trail holly]

-# guilt trip gaming

[alpine hollow]

And for that I am sorry

I know i am stupid

[trail holly]

holy fucking shit??? deathconsciousness reference???

[atomic kiln]

-# im only now realising this

[lunar zealot]

how old are you people

[pale wolf]

i need you to be antimemetic rn

[alpine hollow]

an adult

[lunar zealot]

good god i'm surrounded by people who watch battle for dream island and the owl house

[trail holly]

bfdi is terrible

[pale wolf]

also good luck with the obelisk runs

[trail holly]

the owl house is not bad but i havent watched much besides the first few episodes so i cant really judge it properly

bojack horseman solos

[kindred stream]

If I have a stone card in my hand will blackboard still hit?

[lunar zealot]

you are 13 years old why are you watching bojack horseman

[lunar zealot]

no

[trail holly]

idk

[kindred stream]

Fuck

[trail holly]

got curious

[unreal iron]

i do believe that challenges should be removed from the game

[trail holly]

theyre fun i like them

[unreal iron]

theyre not even challenges dude

[atomic kiln]

how so?

[unreal iron]

white stake

[unreal iron]

not challenging

so its like

[trail holly]

not everyone is amazing at this game

[unreal iron]

misinformation ig

[trail holly]

like me

[atomic kiln]

i mean yea, most of em are a pushover/feel the same

[unreal iron]

bro plays ONLY on black deck gold stake

suffering

[atomic kiln]

do quite like a small hand full of em

[unreal iron]

yeah so remove them :3

[atomic kiln]

x3

[trail holly]

listen i think a few of the challenges are really easy sometimes easier than normal white stake but stuff like golden needle or jokerless is insanely hard

at least imo

[alpine hollow]

they are fun, and the easier ones are nice if your are havig a bad day

[atomic kiln]

i mean theyre probably intended for newer players (after win 1 etc) since they do kinda ramp up in difficulty/complexity a lil

[buoyant fog]

pretty decent run rn

not bad at all I'd say

[trail holly]

four finger + shortcut combo, mmmmm

tasty

[alpine hollow]

sorry about the ping, you were refering to me, right?

[buoyant fog]

always a satisfying syngery

[trail holly]

i think that conversation is over brochacho

[trail holly]

one of my favorites when i get it

pretty rare to stumble upon but perfect for straight flushes

[alpine hollow]

sorry

[atomic kiln]

running into it with a deck (or set of jokers) with the ability for good deck fixing always feels nice

[buoyant fog]

I wish I could straight flush maxx rn but unfortunately its too late, already have straight lvld up to 8

[lunar zealot]

not that straight flushes should be played even with ff + shortcut

[trail holly]

straight has insane scaling so thats fine too

[lunar zealot]

generally speaking just play straights

strush offers nothing

[trail holly]

why not?

[lunar zealot]

what do straight flushes offer to compensate for being fundamentally harder to draw than straights and being completely reliant on 4 fingers + shortcut to be reliably played

thus restricting joker slots for scoring

[trail holly]

better scaling i guess

[buoyant fog]

FUUUUCK bro freaking hologram

[lunar zealot]

very much diminishing returns

[buoyant fog]

sucks I'm on painted or else I'd buy

[lunar zealot]

saturn is the single best scaling planet

[atomic kiln]

[kindred cedar]

I whole heartedly disagree

[lunar zealot]

neptune has better numbers but still not enough to compensate

[buoyant fog]

I could really use antimatter rn

[latent egret]

you only need ff and/or sc until you get perfect deck fixing

[lunar zealot]

anecdotes

[trail holly]

makes sense

[atomic kiln]

i mean id never focus straight flush as a goal, but if you Can pivot from straights to em isnt much o fa reason not to tbf if u can hit em consistantly

[lunar zealot]

who the fuck deckfixes for straight flushes

just play flush five if you have the money to deckfix

[alpine hollow]

I could say that flsuh 5s are better

[kindred cedar]

People who play for fun

[buoyant fog]

I mean if it works it works

[lunar zealot]

when did that ever come into the argument

[alpine hollow]

sorry rwrong reply

[zenith musk]

Is there anything that helps you play more card?

[lunar zealot]

technically splash

otherwise you can only ever play 5

[alpine hollow]

people play balatro for fun, not as a competition

[zenith musk]

What does splash do

[latent egret]

yea you're right just play pairs for ever and only play the mathematically optimal way or else you might risk having fun

[lunar zealot]

retriggers count as you scoring cards additional times

[atomic kiln]

flush 5s tend to be near impossible to hit in most non endless runs on higher stakes, but if u do have dna etc it can work

[lunar zealot]

strawman argument

[alpine hollow]

all cards become scoring

[zenith musk]

O Alr

[trail holly]

yea cuz gold stake is mostly miserable when youre not playing for pairs

its not fun either way you either win or lose

[alpine hollow]

what even is the appeal of gold stake runs anyway>

[trail holly]

its rewarding but that doesnt make it fun to play either way

[atomic kiln]

yea i mean with the restrictions u mainly need consistincy over anything till u can be consistent

[zenith musk]

Ehat should I buy💔

[alpine hollow]

how is it fun>

[latent egret]

completionism

[atomic kiln]

real

[lunar zealot]

because white stake is really really easy

[alpine hollow]

and?

[trail holly]

it's not that's the thing (unless i just have a skill issue)

[shell dagger]

People like challenging themselves

[lunar zealot]

are you going to reply with another anecdote

[trail holly]

but completionist reasons make me play it and actually winning feels sooo satisfying

[atomic kiln]

real :3

does also make u think alot more generally

[buoyant fog]

its a fun challenge I'd say

[atomic kiln]

sicne alot of things are alot more meaningful due to less econemy etc

[alpine hollow]

Look, I am genuinely sorry for making the mistake about the Diet Cola + Blueprint mobile interaction, okay?
Please

[buoyant fog]

but far too many people lose sight of the game to in max imo

but such is the case with any roguelike

[lunar zealot]

you think i'm still hung up over that?

[trail holly]

i think decision making has to be very spot on in gold stake for you to win consistently which makes it more thought provoking

[buoyant fog]

people look at strats with tunnelvision

[trail holly]

who cares bro

[alpine hollow]

Yes, otherwisse why would you mention the anecdote thing?

[lunar zealot]

because anecdotes generally aren't helpful to an argument?

i'm not sure what you're saying

[trail holly]

hey in which meaning are we using the word anecdote

[alpine hollow]

why mention it specifcally when i said the thing earleir

[shell dagger]

What other meanings are there

[trail holly]

weird word

[lunar zealot]

i am not debating semantics with a 13 year old

[trail holly]

age doesnt make it invalid

[alpine hollow]

ill head off now

[lunar zealot]

no age is 100% valid

when you are 13 years old literally everything is influenced by how 13 years old you are

[alpine hollow]

when you are 90 you are influenced by 90yrs of life, there is no diference

[shell dagger]

there’s a difference of 77 years

[lunar zealot]

what about 80 years

[trail holly]

i just want to know what the word means in that context thats all

im not asking for more

[lunar zealot]

how much is the difference there

[shell dagger]

🤷‍♂️

[trail holly]

english aint my first language so i just wanna know

[shell dagger]

the first definition, with implications of the second

third is irrelevant

[trail holly]

thank you

[royal bobcat]

Depends what age

[buoyant fog]

negative diet cola LUL

most expensive double tag ever

[lunar zealot]

i mean

if you're above interest threshold there's no reason not to take it

jesus christ my stomach hurts

but im not even lactose intolerant

[atomic kiln]

hope its nothing serious

[lunar zealot]

imagine this being the way i find out i'm lactose intolerant

LMAOOOOOO

[buoyant fog]

yeah I just found it funny

much like an eternal egg

[atomic kiln]

no more cheese.. a fate worth than death /sillies

[royal ore]

whats the play here yall

[zenith musk]

Is it bad to focus on rock cards

[bold gate]

invisible, duh

[royal ore]

if you have good jokers for it, then no not at all

[bold gate]

CRBowlerSpin

[zenith musk]

Yes I’m bowler

[bold gate]

CRBowlerGrin

[zenith musk]

My jokers are horrible and it ain’t giving me anything

[trail holly]

invis!!!

[royal ore]

it copied baseball card yall

shouldn't have doubted you

[trail holly]

now just replace the misprint with another uncommon and youre ballin

[lunar zealot]

you die to pillar but other than that no

[zenith musk]

Wait what does pillar do?

[trail holly]

cards previously played this ante debuffed

[zenith musk]

I got it right when u said it😭😭

[ember turtle]

sticker farmin...

[zenith musk]

I got it rn

[pale grotto]

Where is Stone joker T-T

I need him

[unreal iron]

get a stone card

[pale grotto]

I know T-T

[unreal iron]

marble joker into high card build :3

[pale grotto]

Yes i need to Focus less on winning and more on stoning

[trail holly]

ironically ive never tried making a stone card build, just didn't get the things i needed and by the time i had the chance i either had a way better build going or it was just too late

[pale grotto]

But you got him?

[trail holly]

ive seen stone joker in the shop a couple of times from a spare stone card i had in the deck

[weak lily]

worlds best wraith (ignore my unability of making screenshots)

[trail holly]

now that's a good wraith

[soft mango]

I need to learn more strategies, I always end up with face cards and flushes or a face card high card build 😭

[weak lily]

wraith is scared of vagabond and creditcard

[trail holly]

scaling jokers are also great

[weak lily]

try 8 ball and chad

[soft mango]

I've tried to do runs with hack but I never get the right jokers

[pale grotto]

Try bus and pareidolia

[trail holly]

best synergy

[trail holly]

try vagabond and bootstraps

[buoyant fog]

5oak run time :D

[weak lily]

play abandoned deck, it will be refreshing

[modest stirrup]

Any luck with the black deck climb? Any lessons learned?

[weak lily]

dna and erosion 🤝

[soft mango]

Currently stuck on gold stake spectral deck, I keep running out of money 😭 I never get economy cards

[weak lily]

spectral deck as in ghost?

[soft mango]

Yeah

[charred perch]

Prioritize interest early you should leave ante 1 with 25 in bank

[weak lily]

or reset for money skip ante 1 lol

[weak lily]

25 in bank after ante 1? ur gnna need a money joker for that

[charred perch]

Money skip

[weak lily]

yeah

[soft mango]

What are some good common early game jokers other than the money ones

[floral mural]

i guess im taking zany for scoring with the holo

[trail holly]

scaling jokers like square joker, ride the bus, red card are usually pretty great

[weak lily]

ofcourse chad is nice for chips, econ, maybe multcards, any early surviving is pretty good if nothing else (like banana, mystic summit and a lot more to be honest) but these arent run defining loke the scaling jokers egz just named

[modest stirrup]

that seems counterproductive

[trail holly]

that's kinda the joke

[weak lily]

yeah true maybe add a certificate in there somewhere to upgrade the synergy

[trail holly]

yeah marble joker too

[modest stirrup]

just realized what you responded to

[weak lily]

lmao

[buoyant fog]

NOOOOOO

I WAS ABOUT TO UNLOCK FLUSH 5 PLANET

AND I LIST

BECAUSE OF THE FLINT

FUUUUUUUUUCK

[trail holly]

all my homies hate the flint

fucking bitch boss

[buoyant fog]

On god bri

bro

[trail holly]

one of the worst up there with the plant

[queen fractal]

Just get + mult

[buoyant fog]

I HAD MULT BRO

I HAD BRAINSTORM AND SUPERNOVA

[trail holly]

sometimes the game just says fuck you

[buoyant fog]

IT WAS NOT ENOUGH

[trail holly]

<@&1133519078540185692>

[queen fractal]

No no, thats a skill issue

[heavy solstice]

Who's hacking all these accounts

[buoyant fog]

3 5OAK HANDS PLAYED ON ANTE 6 BRO

FUCK U

[heavy solstice]

This is the second time i've seen the exact same scam

[queen fractal]

No thanks

[buoyant fog]

You suck

[queen fractal]

Still i never had this issue

[royal ore]

ME!!! AHAHAH!1!1! I DID IT ALL!1!!1 I WILL SCAM YOU ALL AND TAKE YOUR BALATRO MONEY!!1!! (joke)

[buoyant fog]

"meh meh meh meh meh"

ur toxic

[queen fractal]

No?

[trail holly]

if you dont get any good +mult scaling and youre not super strong then there's not really a thing you can do

[queen fractal]

There is always a way

[buoyant fog]

Brother painted deck is hard in those cases

[queen fractal]

Check balatro university

[trail holly]

yeah i know but some of us arent amazing at this game

[buoyant fog]

Bro I dont look up strategy guides

Like dude people like you are what drive people away from good games

[queen fractal]

Learn to play the game, dont complain bout everything dude

[royal ore]

you can win pretty much any gold stake run
but you don't HAVE to

[heavy solstice]

JOKES ON YOU!!! I'M BROKE AND I HAVEN'T EVEN MADE IT TO GOLD STAKE

[royal ore]

you have to fail to learn

[buoyant fog]

Bro I'm just venting to make conversation and you are being a dick

[trail holly]

sorry onionsan hes right 💔

[queen fractal]

No people like you who just yell at everything is what drives people away

[royal ore]

like i have lost hundreds of gold stake runs at this point but that's how i improve

[buoyant fog]

YOU INSTIGATED THIS

[queen fractal]

No?

[trail holly]

yeah same im buns still but i at least learn something every time

[buoyant fog]

BY SAYING "SKILL ISSUE" AND ADDING NOTHING OF VALUE TO THE CONVERSATION

Like fuck you brother

[trail holly]

does every conversation need to have value

[queen fractal]

You started with the whole fuck you saga

[buoyant fog]

Bro I mean value of just having a regular conversation

"I lost a run"
"damn that sucks, I've been there"

thats all you had to say

[trail holly]

yeah and you could've just ignored him it's not that difficult

[buoyant fog]

how about you look up a strategy guide on how to have conversation

[queen fractal]

Fr

[buoyant fog]

BUT THEN WHERE IT THE JUSTICE?

[queen fractal]

But toxic is a better fit for him

[buoyant fog]

Literally fuck you

you're a dumbass

[trail holly]

if you don't like that he's pointing out you did something wrong then that's a you problem brother im sorry to tell you this

[buoyant fog]

Both of you need to touch grass and experience real life

[trail holly]

you just burst out screaming for no reason when all he said is you couldve avoided it

[queen fractal]

Bto get a life yourself, a life is not yelling at discord when you lose in a game

[quartz ember]

tbh you shouldnt be expecting for a normal conversation online

[trail holly]

youre the one getting angry over a discord message buddy

[dense wraith]

another black deck run that made it to the final boss and lost there while being broke the whole game

[spiral cairn]

should i get rid of misprint or droll

[buoyant fog]

"just ignore someone instigating you for no good reason while trying to discuss the game in a channel called "GAME DISCUSSION" bro are you hearing yourself

[spiral cairn]

i need that chad

[buoyant fog]

misprint fs

[spiral cairn]

kk

[buoyant fog]

wait

waitwait

[spiral cairn]

im waiting

[buoyant fog]

are you going for flushes?

[queen fractal]

Whats the deck?

[spiral cairn]

yes

only flushes

[trail holly]

even when they're toxic you don't need to drag this on for so long

[spiral cairn]

checkered

[buoyant fog]

okay, then yeah misprint

[spiral cairn]

k

[buoyant fog]

You are actually brain dead bro 💀

[queen fractal]

Take a deep hard look at yourself first bud

[lunar zealot]

is the 13 year old still talking in this channel

[spiral cairn]

aah i should have used death on the ace of spades not hearts

i got bloodstone before

but then i got both the spade ones

[queen fractal]

Thats sad

[lunar zealot]

i mean tbf you don't really dupe aces

[floral mural]

this boss is fake as hell

[lunar zealot]

not too high on the rank priority

so don't feel too bad

[buoyant fog]

this and cerulean bell

[lunar zealot]

ah yes wee and ouioui

[queen fractal]

Invis wee goes funny

[spiral cairn]

lmao

[buoyant fog]

easiest bosses of all time but I wont complain so it doesnt get patched LMAO

[floral mural]

fib wee was fun and glass joker is solid eh

like glass joker didnt get scaled above 3.25x

and thats fine

[lunar zealot]

zany thinks he's on the team bro

[buoyant fog]

Wee goes so hard

[floral mural]

listen hes there for moral support (early game mult)

[spiral cairn]

king queen and jack give 10 chips each no?

[buoyant fog]

the 10 mult is good at least

[spiral cairn]

okok guys

[lunar zealot]

yesss

[spiral cairn]

i just got an ectoplasm

BUT

i am using stuntman

so its gonna turn my hand size to 5

do i use the ecto

[buoyant fog]

Ohhh which one is stuntman

[spiral cairn]

and get rid of the stuntman

?

or do i just leave it be

[buoyant fog]

what does stuntman do

[quartz ember]

dont you have like multiple weak jokers

[spiral cairn]

+250 chips

[floral mural]

depends on the build you can take the ecto and use stuntman at once

[buoyant fog]

I havent unlocked yet

Ohhhh

[spiral cairn]

-2 hand sizr

[buoyant fog]

I'd say its a risky pivot

[quartz ember]

very risky

[buoyant fog]

but if you wanna take the gamble for a better joker, do it

[spiral cairn]

eh yeah ima do it

[buoyant fog]

but if you wanna play it safe, dont take ecto

[spiral cairn]

who plays safe in a game about gambling

ooh it gve negative to arrowhead

thats nice

[buoyant fog]

couldnt have said it better myself

[spiral cairn]

wait ima just keep stuntman

its checkered

[buoyant fog]

Truuuuee

[spiral cairn]

m so stupid

[buoyant fog]

big brain plays

[spiral cairn]

aah the boss blind is the eye

i need good joker

aint no way i got bloodstone again

[buoyant fog]

Oh shit

YOOO???

[spiral cairn]

no

[buoyant fog]

Oh

:(

[spiral cairn]

my entire deck is based on spades

arrowhead

wrath joker

[buoyant fog]

Riiiight

[spiral cairn]

oh i got sock

[buoyant fog]

I'm smart LOL

[spiral cairn]

bet

[dense wraith]

good as hell black deck start, just getting mail in and surviving

[spiral cairn]

shipped it

lets hope

nice i got it

[pale grotto]

Can someone give me a spoiler of the balatrodle?

Im in the 30 try

[lunar zealot]

Your mama

[pale grotto]

Please :(

[lunar zealot]

Let me go check

[pale grotto]

Ty

[spiral cairn]

i got rid of droll for supernova

much better

[subtle steppe]

s-showman

[lunar zealot]

Makes money

[buoyant fog]

LETS GO GUYS I GOT BLUEPRINT

[spiral cairn]

fk i lost

[spiral cairn]

wow

[buoyant fog]

damn

[spiral cairn]

i should have sold stuntman

that hand size makes big problem

[pale grotto]

I know all the hints but i dont know which joker is it

||8$ economy uncommon no rng or scaling||

[spiral cairn]

vro

i just got

negative vagabond

vagabond is so ahhh

[pale grotto]

Vagabond is great for deck fixing

[spiral cairn]

im on checkered

[pale grotto]

But you need a plan b for when you dont need him more and want money

[spiral cairn]

and i have 48 dollers

[pale grotto]

Its a natural vaga?

[spiral cairn]

nvm lost

[spiral cairn]

yeah

negative

[pale grotto]

You should buy him only for temperance then

[pale grotto]

Oh

[spiral cairn]

i lost

the needle

[pale grotto]

Dw you got this

[zinc karma]

Feels funny

[pale grotto]

Invisible joker unlocked?

[zinc karma]

Yep

[spiral cairn]

oo i got bull

free chips

[zinc karma]

Free chips till u cant spend your money cuz ull lose if u do

[spiral cairn]

yea

[pale grotto]

But free chips!

[spiral cairn]

is painted deck good

[lunar zealot]

Well

[spiral cairn]

should i buy and hex then ankh eternal jimbo for the memes

[lunar zealot]

now that you say it it should be obvious no?

First of all economy doesn't necessarily mean $

[quartz ember]

damn yea i dont agree with that either

[acoustic kettle]

Money

Gimme dolla dolla

[pale grotto]

I got him now dw

[lunar zealot]

all i will say is it works very very well with a joker that otherwise scales slow

[lunar zealot]

oh

[quartz ember]

should be ||other|| imo

[pale grotto]

28 tries

[lunar zealot]

See the joke is that also works with midas mask

[spiral cairn]

should i get etenal wrathful joker?

i already have lusty

[lunar zealot]

what no why

[pale grotto]

You litlel sinner

[acoustic kettle]

Sinner of all sinners

[spiral cairn]

memes

[quartz ember]

(except midas mask ||isnt econ so does not quite work in this context||)

[pale grotto]

||midas is other||

[lunar zealot]

HOW IS

WHAT

im suing balatrodle

[zinc karma]

Can someone pls do a run with 20 all 6s and a lucky cat?

[acoustic kettle]

Why 20

[zinc karma]

Guaranteed +20 bucks

[quartz ember]

uhh

[lunar zealot]

sure actually

i can debug that rn

[acoustic kettle]

Like 5 is enough

[quartz ember]

you dont need 20 by a long shot

[lunar zealot]

sounds fun

[pale grotto]

12 opps are like 8196 chances

[lunar zealot]

hey that's like shiny odds

[acoustic kettle]

10 is guaranteed cavendish

[pale grotto]

Sweet

[stiff fjord]

just beat black deck on orange stake 🥳

[pale grotto]

More sweet

Congrats!!!

[terse vale]

oh peaksters

[spiral cairn]

BRO I DONT GET THIS GAME

[lunar zealot]

oh jeez guys are my jokers good

[stiff fjord]

i ran a straight build with runner, raised fist, and mime

[spiral cairn]

I GOT NEGATIVE GROS MICHEL IN ANTE 1

AND ITS ANTE 7

HOW IS IT NOT EXTINCT YET

DAWG

[lunar zealot]

???????????

[spiral cairn]

AND THE ONE TIME I GET CAVENDISH IT GOES IN ONE ROUND

[lunar zealot]

WAIT I NEED TO CHECK THIS FUCKING SEED

[terse vale]

I think you only need like 4 to get guaranteed odds

[lunar zealot]

NO FUCKING SHOT THERE'S AN ETERNAL OOPS ALL 6

[terse vale]

O ya

[quartz ember]

"lucky"

[spiral cairn]

ima js play on plasma

[dense wraith]

I want the hit the road

[acoustic kettle]

Sell blueprint

[stiff fjord]

credit

[spiral cairn]

i love doubl tags

[shell dagger]

Sly is so much better here

[dense wraith]

ill just sell jolly and take a ethereal skip (I'm just gambling on if I can survive this point)

meh, Idk if I'll survive this

ouija didn't give jacks either

[zinc karma]

Bruh

[dense wraith]

ok yeah I died trying my silly strat

[spiral cairn]

the same boss blind cannot appear twic in one run right?

[pale wolf]

it can

but only once every boss has been seen once already

the game shows every boss in a random order and then restarts the list in a new random order

[lunar zealot]

yeah it's like tetris

[spiral cairn]

should i use brainstorm on hanging chad or photo

[pale wolf]

photo

[lunar zealot]

generally photo

[violet bear]

Bloodstone would still miss

[spiral cairn]

should i get rid of even

[pale wolf]

whats going on here

[quartz ember]

depends if you have glass, but generally photo

[violet bear]

Eternal oops all 6s clearly

[spiral cairn]

never mind

[quartz ember]

steve doing the heavy lifting

[spiral cairn]

glass queen of diamonds with red seal

too op

i spoke too soon it broke

bruh

[pale wolf]

its almost like you shouldnt unnecessarily risk glass

if its a card you want to keep

[spiral cairn]

i didnt think it would make 400m bro

this is my first time using plasma

[violet bear]

But the unnecessarily big number is gonna be way smaller without glass 😔

[violet bear]

Plasma tends to do that the first times yeah

[spiral cairn]

so real

bro i swear to god if this stupid banana doesnt break

[violet bear]

The nanner always dies when you actually need the flat mult

[spiral cairn]

yess it brokey

im speakin shi into existence today

oh my days

[pale wolf]

im beeping

[spiral cairn]

bruh i always forget to move the face cards in the first spot

while playing the hand

it messes up the score

[wanton fjord]

aight i know i sell chad but who else going

[elfin plaza]

pants

[brave goblet]

invisibled popcorn 🔥

[spiral cairn]

for the memes

sell yoric

[wanton fjord]

dude do i get the gold sticker on popcorn

[spiral cairn]

and then ankh the popcorn

[wanton fjord]

its ante 7 boss blind rn

[brave goblet]

If you have less than 5 rounds then you will

yeah should be fine

[spiral cairn]

oops all 6s applies to lucky cards?

[wanton fjord]

ok popcorn can be my plus mult instead of pants lol

[wanton fjord]

yes

[brave goblet]

You can literally see the probability on them change

[spiral cairn]

should i get it?

[lavish gazelle]

Ceiling bird

[brave goblet]

sure, ditch the fist

[spiral cairn]

for raised fist

alr

oh wow ive gotten flush fives before

but i didnt know five of a kind was also a thing

ok what do i get rid off

should i just remove oops all 6s

lucky cat has 3.25x

photochad and sock

best combo

[kindred valley]

Just died with two bloodstones and a hack because neither of the bloodstones triggered a single time

[spiral cairn]

but what to remove

[violet bear]

Classic

[kindred valley]

It was like 14 potential bs triggers and not one happened

This is why bloodstone is the worst joker for gold stake if anyone was wondering

[spiral cairn]

ima js get rid of it

wait which one do i brainstorm

sock photo or chad

for highest score possible

[lunar zealot]

moment

where's fork when you need her

[spiral cairn]

someone tel

[hard zenith]

chad

you only have 1 enhanced card

[lunar zealot]

use balacal

[hard zenith]

you might as well get some better chance out of it

[spiral cairn]

eh

alr

[hard zenith]

could do well with lucky as well

2 extra chances to hit

[spiral cairn]

36 mil

vroom

[hard zenith]

plus photo is gonna do 2 extra ones

woooo there we go

[spiral cairn]

bruh

[trail pier]

pretty good gold stake run

[spiral cairn]

ofc now i get antimatter

[hard zenith]

ah u killin it i see

[wanton fjord]

i lost

losing trousers was detrimental

[lunar zealot]

that statement is true in real life as well

[wanton fjord]

that run was so good bro i couldve gotten some of the hardest gold stickers

popcorn and yorick

[spiral cairn]

yoo my first error score

plasma is so peak

[trail holly]

you either love it or hate it no inbetween

[spiral cairn]

shit its amber

nvm

got a billion

[trail holly]

not that bad with this build you can just hold the joker you want to be on the left while its shuffling

[spiral cairn]

yeah i forgot that photo looks small

brainstorm would copy it anyways

[shell seal]

Error 🥀

[spiral cairn]

oh no

shit

i didnt see it was the mouth

i played five of a kind

uh oh

welp lost that run

one of my best ones tho

ima try erratic gold stake

lets see how well this goes

[twin lantern]

imagine bro rolls the bugged seed 🗣️🔥

[cyan ocean]

would swapping ice cream with this be a good idea?

[acoustic kettle]

Insane build

[cyan ocean]

should i swap?

yeah

probably actually

[pale wolf]

for blackboard actually

[cyan ocean]

black board is not good with my deck

[pale wolf]

blackboard is fine on a base deck