🕹・game-discussion

[vocal warren]

donate to the poor

[fresh sequoia]

sleeping on this combo

[fading mango]

well i was just thinking when you first load it, its just a pair of kings

[vocal warren]

if you continue to give... temporary solutions.. to the POOREST of the pourrrrr

to the POOREST of the pourrrr

one day the poorest will become the poorest of the pooresters

anyways

can i have 1 dollar

[shell dagger]

Stone joker genuinely got outpaced by green joker despite having cartomancer for most of the run

Wtf that is NOT the right screenshot

[vocal warren]

i got madness chat

he's foil

[north schooner]

Eternal gombo?

[shell dagger]

Yes

[vocal warren]

new run

i messed up

[fresh sequoia]

holy shit.

[vocal warren]

Absolute cinema

[earnest bison]

DOOFTR/X.

[north schooner]

Hey, some direction!

[vocal warren]

i switched decks

im on red deck

but

i'm looking at it and this is essentially a normal run but on 100

because y'know

[serene forge]

I hate Photograph

[vocal warren]

+1 discard

[vocal warren]

WH- actually, no. That's kinda fair

proceed

[north schooner]

Negative skip has a sense of humor

[fresh sequoia]

i am just the greatest person alive aren't i

negative showman.

NATURAL

negative showman

[ruby trail]

cool

[marsh vine]

context: in 51 minutes, I got one (1) win

when do you think I am going to lose this

[vocal warren]

im playing a flush house

this is why

because i need freedom

[fresh sequoia]

me on the toilet:

[vocal warren]

im actually deck building for kings

[proven gulch]

i've gotten a run with 2 of these 💀

[fresh sequoia]

get it? flush? in a house? hahhahahahahahahh

[vocal warren]

but i have a sun on hand and happened to get the perfect setup for a flush house

[vocal warren]

it actually gave me a chuckle lol

[steady tundra]

i got double Fibonacci with the hack it's genuinely all over my screen

[zinc karma]

One of the funniest runs ive ever made ngl

4oak btw

[modern panther]

DEAR GOD... I'M SO FUCKED...

[pale wolf]

i just got too excited to show off the end of my run, reset rtb on bell, and lost

ggs

[modern panther]

I CAN FUCKIN DO IT... IT'S ALL JOEVER...

[modern panther]

Ggs

[north schooner]

Sticker the disabled burglar or the eternal sixth sense? (Only 3 6s left)

[pale wolf]

https://youtu.be/ztX1Q6MF4eI?si=1BST3ZFLRp_WDnWr
I know it's a coincidence but it feels like a couple days after discussions in this channel, doc will have videos based on the Joker

[north schooner]

Burglar gives me an escape slot if I need it

[zinc karma]

Nub

[pale wolf]

theres been castle discourse recently

[pale wolf]

no

[zinc karma]

Buns

[fresh sequoia]

this isn't modding chat but Fuck.

[zinc karma]

Why would a soul even do ts?

[median crystal]

what should i sell for banana

[viral raft]

Someone send me ts, opinions?

lowk nah

[marsh dove]

Insane

[white zodiac]

im gonna brap

[fresh sequoia]

accurate-ish

[zinc karma]

Top baddest tier lists ive ever seen

[viral raft]

what ish means??

[fresh sequoia]

some i would move but pretty close to what i would choose

[modern panther]

Only reason Chicot is in C and not B is because Chicot starts with C. Change my mind. Chicot is not that bad and has saved my hind several times.

[north schooner]

I assume it's a result of double dice

[modern panther]

Ggs

[earnest bison]

Is that a mod?

[north schooner]

Either you're playing sock or Baron, not both

[earnest bison]

Just sell Oops.

[fresh sequoia]

yeah i did

[modern panther]

Samsung phone

[earnest bison]

Ah.

[modern panther]

Do I take the speculative Oops?

[north schooner]

Vagabond is C, your argument is invalid

[north schooner]

Yes

[shell seal]

Why isnt campfire in S

[median crystal]

what to for brainstorm

playing high card

[modern panther]

Sock if you're playing high

[simple bronze]

hell nah obelisk is A teir min

[zinc karma]

Kinda buns to use, but definitely shouldn't be in D

[median crystal]

what

[north schooner]

Why do you still have sock?

[median crystal]

sock retriggers the face card

[median crystal]

bc it retriggers the face card?

[viral raft]

isn't mine so whatever

[shell seal]

U r playin high card?

[median crystal]

yes

[north schooner]

rhetorical

[shell seal]

Then sell sock

[simple bronze]

sell chico thats useless

[pale wolf]

i just realized that the face card noobs v general gameplay elite divide was orchestrated from the start

[north schooner]

oh. It's you again.

[median crystal]

do i put photo or chad left

[simple bronze]

photo left

its scores more points for some reason

[viral raft]

is always you brotato 😭

[white zodiac]

2 blocked messages

[simple bronze]

?

[median crystal]

14m dem

[white zodiac]

1 blocked message

[north schooner]

"for some reason"

[modern panther]

Playing straights. What should I take?

[viral raft]

is hideo kojima

[modern panther]

I never play straights so I'm clueless

[simple bronze]

i don't do math

[pale wolf]

rtb is the only joker that rewards specifically building away from face cards and it is only good near the beginning of a run most of the time

[north schooner]

None

[atomic forum]

should I put c++ in my nickname considering it has been accomplished now

[pale wolf]

face cards were always high variance high reward

[viral raft]

depends, if you're playing low straights, 5. If you're playing high straights, 10

[atomic forum]

this sort of asymmetry is great in roguelikes

[manic talon]

photochad way too good to not consider face card

[white zodiac]

preferably neither

[modern panther]

That's what I'm asking. What straights should I go for? This is going to be my first straights run

[simple bronze]

if you get paradolia you don't need to worry if its a face card or not

[pale wolf]

we need like 1 more specifically no-face card joker

[manic talon]

please dont do that

[pale wolf]

maybe one with no face cards allowed held in hand

[viral raft]

mmmm, do you play faces?

[modern panther]

Only no-face card i know is bus. Are there more?

[viral raft]

or do you play low ranks

[pale wolf]

that's it

[modern panther]

I play what I get, I won't lie, bc it's ante 2 and I have 0 deck-fixing

[north schooner]

Hack, wee, the twins

fib

etc

[white zodiac]

boosted by pari

[north schooner]

Don't add cards, remove them from the ends

[viral raft]

any card that doesn't use faces

[modern panther]

I'm sure they mean anti-face jokers. Like how bus demands that you don't play faces or it refuses to do anything

[pale wolf]

those, but esp wee, arent rewarding building specifically away from face cards, which are sorta close to 2 actually bc of strength

you kill 6+ first with hack

or maybe 7 for sixth sense

[unborn cliff]

balatrodle in 3

[modern panther]

How do I even fix my.deck when I'm playing towards straights? How do you fix your deck for that?

[marsh goblet]

i need a good skip tag NOW

[unborn cliff]

cut the cards you dont want to play

[pale wolf]

you make your deck a bell curve centered on the range you desire, ideally

[unborn cliff]

DUDE

[lunar zealot]

Also 2s and 9s

[unborn cliff]

i cant do anything

[lunar zealot]

make lots of 2s and 9s

[north schooner]

It's true but at least their value is diminished, especially early game when they're more relevant

[unborn cliff]

negative skip next ante

[marsh goblet]

YAY MY XMULT IS HERE

[white zodiac]

cut the ends, inflate the middle, have a smaller deck overall

[lunar zealot]

Bbc with 0 good uncommons is so sad to see

my poor boy

[modern panther]

Thank you, that's the type of answer I was looking for, because I have no direction whatsoever

[north schooner]

bbc is starving for some uncs

[white zodiac]

I was like the third person to say it but yeah

[pale wolf]

balatrodle in 4 although i should've got it in 3 if i thought about it a little harder

[median crystal]

welp

ante 12 again

i cant beat the 300m small blind for some reason

[pale wolf]

balatrodle should be numbered and let u play past games

[modern panther]

Well, Judgement has decided my run for me.

[median crystal]

what that

[modern panther]

I'm tired of the game giving me Photochad, man. My success is having a negative impact now.

[median crystal]

is there a site to calc your jokers

[steady tundra]

so i threw the run

[cloud sinew]

https://efhiii.github.io/balatro-calculator/

[north schooner]

You don't have to take photo

[still frost]

"Good"
"Skip Tag"

Pick one or the other please :(

[modern panther]

I got it from Judgement

[modern panther]

Valid response

[cloud sinew]

a boring meta sucks regardless of if you take it or not; not taking it means youre playing suboptimally and you'll likely lose more runs than you otherwise would have by playing optimally

[marsh vine]

do I get bloodstone and try to get as many Heart Kings as I can?

[modern panther]

sob

[cloud sinew]

no. bloodstone does not synergise with this build if youre going for kings held in hand with baron

[marsh vine]

but

what if every card I have is a king of hearts?

[north schooner]

Nah a good orbital goes hard on anaglyph. Pairs or straights, even flushes maybe

[marsh goblet]

he still helped me live a bit longer

[cloud sinew]

then either baron is pretty useless or bloodstone is pretty useless

[vestal fern]

the c.ai icon:

[marsh goblet]

long enough to get campfire bp to carry the last 2 antes

[cloud sinew]

bloodstone requires the cards to be played and scored, baron requires the cards to be held in your hand

they work counter to each other

[steady tundra]

the humble negative joker skip:

[marsh goblet]

anyways imma get a bunch of money

[north schooner]

Just speaking from personal experience, I had more fun and got better when I stopped taking photochad when it was provided

[vestal fern]

allat for negative diet soda😭

[marsh goblet]

lit

[eternal anchor]

Lucky Cat I'm really sad I can't get

[vestal fern]

even worse negative Crafty Joker

[wide kettle]

I've officially completed blue stake with each deck (except black deck, but everyone knows that doesn't count)

[still frost]

"Negative Joker Skip Tag"
"Good"

You can still only pick one

[cloud sinew]

its not always optimal to take it, but not taking it when it is optimal, i think, means youre not as good as you could be

[cloud sinew]

what does this prove

[north schooner]

nope

[steady tundra]

it's just hilarious

it's completely shit and only won because i had 11 jokers

[north schooner]

You picked literally the worst one

[still frost]

No there are worse

Like speed tag

[cloud sinew]

the worst one is D6

[still frost]

I always wondered about that one

Since BU put it pretty high on his list

But I like never ever consider it (less than the other tags I never ever consider)

[cloud sinew]

BU has never done a sincere balance tier list

[eternal anchor]

Boss Tag is one of the actual worst imo

[wintry ice]

they showed the one example where it helped 💔

[cloud sinew]

its one of the best... it's one of the few that's semi-consistently* optimal to use.

[steady tundra]

at least it does something

[marsh goblet]

yeah that's a pretty okay campfire

[wintry ice]

boss tag is one of the better ones

if vessel is up next

no it's not

[north schooner]

Maybe? It depends what you mean by "optimal" because if you take it and the run becomes dependent upon it, then you have to deal with the plant, mark, etc. If you take it because it helps out but you're not relying on it, or you're using it to springboard to something else, sure, go ahead.

[cloud sinew]

"optimal" being that it's the line that's most likely to win the run

[eternal anchor]

It's possible to take a boss tag and it rerolls into an even worse boss than the one you would've had to face otherwise

[north schooner]

That doesn't mean the run "becomes a photochad run"

[marsh goblet]

also i had a +66 ride the bus

[wintry ice]

photochad runs are rare for me

[marsh goblet]

my first run where i won with ribe the bus and it was on orange stake lol

[modern panther]

Do I ignore my favorite scaling XMult jonkler?

[wintry ice]

mostly because i rarely take photo if i don't have chad already

[cloud sinew]

that doesnt make the tag bad overall though

or more accurately, it doesnt make it one of the worst

[still frost]

Could or could drop business card. Gotta spend all that money on something

[wintry ice]

how often does that happen in reality

[eternal anchor]

still a gamble

[wintry ice]

the only case where i see that being a possibility is like

[white zodiac]

i blame the player for not thinking ahead about that, not the tag

[wintry ice]

some bloodstone run

[still frost]

I would rather take a chance to reroll an instant lose boss than instantly lose

[viral raft]

Rare and legendary jokers, opinions??

[north schooner]

burnt too low

[wintry ice]

are bp and bs above everything or just unranked

[still frost]

Tribe is much better than Baron and burnt joker is OP

[cloud sinew]

i dont care. the game has RNG elements, you have to assess risk.
if i have a card sharp and cavendish is offered and i can swap it, im weighing the 1/1000 to go extinct against having to play the same hand twice to proc card sharp; it's almost always better, but there will be some runs where it's worse but you CANNOT know that without foresight

[marsh goblet]

good question, if you're playing flushes, don't drop anything. if you're going to need more scoring later, probably drop business card. if you're not playing flushes, drop onyx agate

[marsh goblet]

burnt below hit the road is crazy

[modern panther]

Straights

[wintry ice]

also tf are burnt, orded and chicot doing in the same tier as dna

[marsh goblet]

drop onyx agate

[viral raft]

above all, i just don't want to compare them with the other jokers

[north schooner]

duo in "wow"??

[soft mango]

Do I take the brainstorm?

[white zodiac]

you have funds to fuel it

[marsh goblet]

i mean at least it's consistent, but yeah most xmult options are better lol

[viral raft]

i forget to move Burnt mb, he's below can carry runs

[north schooner]

otherwise, surprising reasonable

[wintry ice]

i would move trib down and chicot way up

[still frost]

Duo is pretty good

[viral raft]

is way too consistent

[modern panther]

Fool the Saturn or the tempo? ($8)

[still frost]

Meh

[marsh goblet]

also i don't get the stuntman hype outside of plasma deck

[wintry ice]

duo is pretty nice

[somber geode]

I got my first win with a two pair/full house build + face card deck after losing my last run at the end due to the boss blind destroying my build

[north schooner]

I get that, but it doesn't solo a run as xMult

[marsh goblet]

why do people like stuntman so much? i hate the -2 hand size

[wintry ice]

250 chips is a lot of chips

[cloud sinew]

putting order in the same tier as family is crazy

[north schooner]

where the other ones would

[wintry ice]

large hands don't matter anymore with that amount of chips

[white zodiac]

solves your chip deficiency issue

[viral raft]

chips are too good

[modern panther]

Especially on Plasma

[still frost]

You can hold fool til after next shop. Check for planet you want to actually play and build for first

[soft mango]

If I do take brainstorm what do I sell, hanging Chad?

[eternal anchor]

Pairs love it

[white zodiac]

just in general

[somber geode]

ok so how do you get plasma deck

[still frost]

+250 chips is a lot of chips

[cloud sinew]

beat blue stake

[modern panther]

Blue stake

[marsh goblet]

that's a good point but also just get a blue seal or something

[somber geode]

ok cool ty

[eternal anchor]

still possible to proc them with a 6 card hand

[wintry ice]

"why is cloud 9 good? just get rebate"

[marsh goblet]

i always get my chips from planet levels so im never low on chips

[soft mango]

I don't understand how to use obelisk, you'll always eventually reset 😔

[cloud sinew]

you would need to get 17 planet levels to be better than stuntman's chips

[white zodiac]

requires time and scaling while stuntboy skips the waiting process

[cloud sinew]

so you always lose runs where you cant rely on planets, gotcha.

[wintry ice]

"why is grimbo good just get red card"

etc

[white zodiac]

can't get flinted/oxed/eyed

[north schooner]

spam pairs till 20 or so, then play whatever hand you can after that, saving high card for emergencies only

[marsh goblet]

always is kind of a stretch but most good runs i have will have a high leveled hand

[white zodiac]

what do you think of obby licks

[marsh goblet]

i suck at using it but i recognize it's strength

it's probably the joker i suck the most with

[north schooner]

This is a weird take because you can't always rely on drawing stuntman, or any chips joker for that matter

[white zodiac]

I wonder why

[wintry ice]

having chip generation helps it a lot

[marsh goblet]

yeah that too, sometimes the game just gives you very little to work with

[soft mango]

What do I swap here with brainstorm?

[viral raft]

i just moved some of the poker hand jokers and burnt, opinions?

[wintry ice]

photo maybe

[marsh goblet]

i barely ever see stuntman in the first place so i haven't gotten many oppertunities to use it

[cloud sinew]

i never said you could. its that she said "i always get my chips from planet levels", and some runs just can't rely on planets for chips, so those runs would automatically be dead runs in that scenario.

[north schooner]

what're you playing?

[wintry ice]

chicot up and trib down

[viral raft]

kinda meh but whatevr

[viral raft]

Based

[soft mango]

Ancient is too low 😔

[cloud sinew]

how is family above order...

[white zodiac]

the message was trying to say you have more than one source of chip scaling/scoring

[soft mango]

Flush house/flush five

[viral raft]

oh, i just move family instead of order

[north schooner]

ok but I took that as a rhetorical "always", not a literal one

[wintry ice]

it's fine where it is

maybe you could move wee up

[marsh goblet]

i was exaggerating when i said i "always" get my chips from planets, i just mean i typically go for planets as my source of chips. im not that terrible at the game to have zero flexibility, and i regularly attempt strategies i have never used before when the run calls for it (and i often do well with those strategies unless it's obelisk lol)

[north schooner]

Photo then

[shell dagger]

then it shouldn’t be too hard to understand why people like stuntman

imo

[wintry ice]

stuntman would still be atleast a 2x in those cases

[marsh goblet]

for example i used to suck at using rtb but my most recent run was my first win with it, it carried my run being my mult while i had a blue seal getting my pair levels super high to be my chips

[white zodiac]

and more when you have nothing

[viral raft]

the worst poker hand joker imo (without counting the tribe) is the order

[marsh goblet]

that is true, if i saw a stuntman i would have taken it

[cloud sinew]

duo > trio > order > family > tribe

[white zodiac]

order is reasonable with the poker hand attached to it

[viral raft]

just facts

[wintry ice]

family is worse because trio kind of does a similar thing as it

[marsh goblet]

it's moreso just me having little experience with it, the few times i've taken it, it just didn't suit the run

[wintry ice]

3x mult is enough if you have glass for vessel

[cloud sinew]

you said the worst one besides tribe was order...

[modern panther]

Ox isn't even an issue

[eternal anchor]

Joker tierlists never really make sense to me because their usage can massively differ between decks and stakes

[shell dagger]

yeah, that’s the case with most rares

good game design tbh

[cloud sinew]

when the format that relies on generalisations happens to generalise:

[marsh goblet]

agreed, i think rares being situational is cool

but it makes them hard to learn

[viral raft]

lmao i just confuse family with the order i'm facking stoopid

[marsh goblet]

but i think them being hard to learn is also cool because it leads to players having preferences

vagabond is my favorite joker rn, i win almost every run that i get vagabond in

[viral raft]

the order is the 4oak one right?

[white zodiac]

the card art gives it away though

[marsh goblet]

im cracked with vagabond

[cloud sinew]

family is 4oak
order is straight

[marsh goblet]

and fortune teller somehow always shows up in my vagabond runs lol

[viral raft]

lmao i'm fricking stupid

[shell dagger]

order: cards are ordered ⇒ straight
family: cards are the same ⇒ 4oak

[viral raft]

i thought that the family was the straight

[marsh goblet]

the family is a free win if you can make 4oak consistently but the thing about the family is that you're probably already winning if you're making 4oak consistently

[uncut slate]

yeah you're not winning bc of the family in that case

[cloud sinew]

also 4oak is a pretty hard hand to make consistently in an unfixed deck, and the fixing is about as difficult as fixing for straights*
while straights are much easier to make in an unfixed deck

[viral raft]

because when i think of a family i think of a group of family of different ages lmao, like a straight with the ranks

[abstract rivet]

Ok so question, is there a way to see achievements for another profile?

[uncut slate]

it's rarely the difference between winning and losing

[viral raft]

the stupiest shit ever

[cloud sinew]

no

[eternal anchor]

The family is the dad, mom, child and sibling

[viral raft]

exactly

[verbal wren]

3rd naneinf

[abstract rivet]

Yeah i been noticing i haven't unlocked any sort of achievements for profile 2 so bleh

[shell dagger]

ante 39

[viral raft]

but now is the order

[abstract rivet]

I assume theres no way to see achievements at all

Besides google play games stuff

[viral raft]

idk when i hear "order" i think of a group of people with the same statues to make order, like a 4 oak a kind

[verbal wren]

On mobile Google play has the achievements

[cloud sinew]

the context was for a 2nd profile

[abstract rivet]

Well both but yeah

[viral raft]

so the order is the straight and the family is the 4oak????

right?

Thx

[marsh goblet]

the family tends to be a joker i take out of desperation if the run is going to die and i need some sort of miracle pivot. like "eh i have 8 of this one card lets go for it" and then i die anyways because i either didn't draw a 4oak or ran into a bad boss blind or 1 4oak didn't clear because i was pivoting off of a level 15 hand to a level 2 4oak

[verbal wren]

Oh ok mb

[modern panther]

No... No...

[signal brook]

C.ai

[modern panther]

What. Th we actual. FUCK.

[wintry ice]

g

[viral raft]

why in all your screenshot theres a c.ai icon??

[modern panther]

Bc i have C.ai open while I play

[viral raft]

good tier ngl, i remake mine now it looks like ts

[signal brook]

goo teir

[viral raft]

idk i don't like to use too many tiers, like 5 o 6 i'm okay

[wintry ice]

yeah that's definitely a bit much for 20 jokers

[north schooner]

help, I'm going to die to the wall

[viral raft]

besides most of the balatro jokers are good so you don't have to seperate them too much

[wintry ice]

but i didn't want to spend too much time in ads

[viral raft]

yeah

[viral raft]

you think my tier is okay or nah?

[wintry ice]

now for a full tier list

[white zodiac]

I like this one

[thick haven]

whats the play here? (trousers +26, cat 1.5x, steel 1.6x, const 2.3x)

[viral raft]

stone joker is kinda meh ngl

maybe a c

[signal brook]

THROWBACK IS NOT F TEIR THATS WHY HE'S THE GOAT

[thick haven]

was tryna work towards faces btw

[wintry ice]

wait why do i have faceless below golden

[median crystal]

im afraid

[wintry ice]

might be bias but i'm moving him up

[viral raft]

true

[wintry ice]

or should i move golden down

[white zodiac]

they can belong in the same room

[wintry ice]

yeah idk why he's in the same tier as square

ranking chip jokers is tough

[signal brook]

Throwback gets his own tier above s

[white zodiac]

stone is redundant for the requirements you have to meet for it

[signal brook]

ABOVE S+

[viral raft]

delayed isn't that bad, you can farm money with him if you have good early game to survive, but yeah besides that, not a great econ joker

[white zodiac]

it's still a good amount for what you do

[white zodiac]

it's the worst econ of the group

[viral raft]

HAHAHHAHA

[wintry ice]

i could move it up

that and sattelite

[signal brook]

EVERYTHING IS BELOW F-

[wintry ice]

and ticket too i guess

[signal brook]

THROWBACK IS THE BEST

[coral hill]

Shoot the moon in above average? You’re so real for this

[north schooner]

pulled it off

[median crystal]

question

if i have blueprint mime chad

[viral raft]

yeah, above blue stake, it's just a +4$, basically a golden joker but you can't play discard, bad as hell, but is something ya you can play with, i also play alot of builds with him like Green+Banner+Delayed to some econ but when you find a better way to econ, is just bad

[median crystal]

if i blueprint the chad and then switch to mime, will it work?

[signal brook]

Perkeo stans vs throwback enjoyers

[wintry ice]

this as a tier name with square in it

[white zodiac]

the ladies love me

[wintry ice]

m

[north schooner]

why is spellcheck wrong?

[wintry ice]

portuguese

[viral raft]

STM IS GREAT

IDC WHAT WHITE STAKE PLAYER THINK

Shoot the moon is way too good

i love stm

[wintry ice]

stm is fun

[viral raft]

yeah

[zenith sentinel]

Is someone actually putting Chicot… where it belongs?

[viral raft]

is baron but good

[wintry ice]

it's definitely more inconsistent than most good options though

should i just

[signal brook]

Throwback enjoyers 🤝 hiker enjoyers (im both

[wintry ice]

move square back up to A

[viral raft]

YES

Square is great

i love him

[wintry ice]

realistically it's just as good as runner and stuntman

[zenith sentinel]

I always thought square scaling is too slow

Just me though

[viral raft]

sadly Wee exist so just for that some people think that square is bad

[wintry ice]

both runs where i used it today got it to +300

if it can touch 200

[signal brook]

Also square scaling locks you out of the early game good hands

[wintry ice]

it's good enough

[zenith sentinel]

Hiker is better than square, imo

[coral hill]

I usually get to 150 or 200 chips

[wintry ice]

that's fine if you have +mult

[viral raft]

[wintry ice]

hiker's chips only apply for 1 hand

square's applies for all of them

[signal brook]

HIKER FANS REJOICE

[wintry ice]

• you don't have to worry about drawing the exact same cards again

[signal brook]

Hiker applies per trigger

[wintry ice]

you still have to draw specific cards

[viral raft]

you need alot of deckffix and trigger to make hiker works

is just meh

[north schooner]

How long does bean last? I have 5 rounds left, so I need to skip one?

[wintry ice]

it's fundamentally less consistent for a reward that's not much better in most situations

[signal brook]

Even if you dont draw tge same card if you have a large amount of retriggers

0+5+10+15...

[wintry ice]

if

[viral raft]

if

[wintry ice]

that's a conditional statement

[north schooner]

I hate him, but he's still great

[wintry ice]

it's not always going to be true

and even then it's still vulnerable to debuffs and bad draws

[signal brook]

Hiker is cool looking

[white zodiac]

hiker goes against the entire play style of the 2oak lobotomy meta in gs

[viral raft]

THE WHEEL IS THE BEST TAROT IN THE GAME...if it hits...

[signal brook]

Screw the meta

[signal brook]

IF YOU HAVE 2 OA6S

[white zodiac]

[wintry ice]

anything can be good if you ignore better options

[viral raft]

truthnuke

[modern panther]

Aaaaaa

[signal brook]

I play the meta if I want to
You play the meta because you have to

We are not the same

[white zodiac]

you're gonna make his inner beast come out

[wintry ice]

?

[uncut slate]

i mean the meta is a product of the game design right

[signal brook]

I'll take my e12 using hiker throwback over naninf using perkeo steel kings and whatever any day

[wintry ice]

thank god baron isn't the meta

[uncut slate]

the meta is discovered rather than invented

[signal brook]

Baron can go succ it

And that weird totem guy

[uncut slate]

people play gold stake a certain way because they want to win gold stake consistently

[signal brook]

2x mult if it chooses your card

[uncut slate]

yeah idol is just kinda lame imo

[terse dock]

2oak

Brother just type fuckign pair its more patterned than "2oak" and the same number of letters

[uncut slate]

i don't really see a point in a joker that is useful in a deck with 1-2 unique cards

[north schooner]

welp I'm dead

[signal brook]

Guys I love playing my 1 of a kind yo

[uncut slate]

just score more points 👍

[north schooner]

I just wanted my sticker for turtle bean 😭

[uncut slate]

uhh

[north schooner]

And the shop is being obnoxious

[uncut slate]

yeah you might be cooked

constellation could be it

[cosmic sun]

the goat BBC just netted me 4 stickers

[acoustic kettle]

2oak is cooler

[uncut slate]

if you have blue seals

[north schooner]

only 1

[cosmic sun]

and Space Joker

[shell seal]

Egg

[white zodiac]

you're only going to influence me

[uncut slate]

unlucky

[north schooner]

You mean observatory?

[acoustic kettle]

Baron runs plays 1oak

[terse dock]

I hate you all

[uncut slate]

yeah that's what i meant

obs blue seals is dark technology

[north schooner]

yeah I thought that too

[acoustic kettle]

Two pair is 2 2oak

[uncut slate]

but you need a crapton of em

[white zodiac]

[uncut slate]

esp because you have the crystal ball

[north schooner]

well, two would be an addition 2x, but that's not enough

[uncut slate]

my condolences

[shell seal]

2oa2oak

[acoustic kettle]

2o2oak

[uncut slate]

three though 3head

[marsh goblet]

yo this art is cool as hell, what's it from?

[terse dock]

Darkest Dungeon

[vocal rose]

bro

🤦🏽‍♀️

[north schooner]

Oh right, but yeah not enough seals

[marsh goblet]

why are u facepalming i was just asking

[shell seal]

Great game

[uncut slate]

is there a mod that puts giant red text on the screen showing me what the upcoming boss blind is during the whole ante

[terse dock]

You're an ass

[marsh goblet]

ty

[terse dock]

You should've been banned permanently in August

[uncut slate]

like just absolutely slap me in the face with it

i will forget it half a second after closing run info

[vocal rose]

yeah its the big red button that says run info

[white zodiac]

what does this mean

[terse dock]

dude is that a fucking peanut butter gamer tag

[vocal rose]

it’ll tell you the information you need like the boss blind

[uncut slate]

no but he actually lives in my hometown

[acoustic kettle]

Run info -> blinds

[minor portal]

I feel like malice has made way here

[uncut slate]

it's a tag for washington goat melee player pbag

[vocal rose]

mr malice

[uncut slate]

peterbag griffin

[white zodiac]

some ppl deserve to have their game locked at x1 speed

[uncut slate]

...

[vocal rose]

that’s horrible

[uncut slate]

did anyone read this part

[white zodiac]

typo

[acoustic kettle]

Write it down

[vocal rose]

you can remember it

[terse dock]

You should take an alzheimer's disease test

[vocal rose]

I promise you can

[uncut slate]

if i could then i think i would have started remembering by now

[acoustic kettle]

I'm forever on 512x

[median crystal]

when do you get naneinf

[terse dock]

1.8e308

[acoustic kettle]

When

[tranquil cargo]

1.79e308

[vocal rose]

I mean if you aren’t doing a bit rn (you are) then that’s concerning

[white zodiac]

that's a real illness you should consult your family doctor for an appointment

[acoustic kettle]

When you naneinf

[white zodiac]

why isnt it 0

[median crystal]

might take a while then

[vocal rose]

I hopped on balatro to go for my third c++ and I closed the game in two seconds

[uncut slate]

it's only half joking, i have lost a lot of runs to just being an actual moron and not fixing my build before the boss

which is why i wondered if anyone had made a mod for morons

to make the game easier

[acoustic kettle]

You can build not into boss blinds

So you're safe on all

[uncut slate]

i mean sometimes you have stm and the boss is the plant

you can stop using stm but you have to remember the boss blind

[tranquil cargo]

there's the banner mod, which lets you ban whichever jokers, consumables, and boss blinds you want from the pool

[white zodiac]

that's stm being purposed as a secondary mult source

[uncut slate]

i don't want to ban them i just want someone to shoot me with a moron gun every time i look at the screen

[white zodiac]

the game already does that for oyu

[median crystal]

so theres a small problem

[white zodiac]

you

via dying

[vocal rose]

if you need to be spoonfed any more information than the game already does

[uncut slate]

no it only does that when you look at the screen sometimes

[vocal rose]

this game isn’t for you

[median crystal]

im at ante 15 and i cant get past my blinds unless i actually use cryptid cards

[verbal mural]

Funny goldstake run

[median crystal]

what do i do

[acoustic kettle]

Just write it down or type it into notepad or sometging

[lunar zealot]

Man

i gotta tell you something

[vocal rose]

like you’re conscious

[lunar zealot]

it's 2 words

[vocal rose]

you can put some effort

[uncut slate]

the information is there? people have all kinds of information qol mods

[lunar zealot]

Very easy to remember

[lunar zealot]

FUCKING READ

[uncut slate]

i want to read them more often

[vocal rose]

I think you just need to start reading man

[acoustic kettle]

So uhh they might have alzheimer's

[verbal oak]

Run info is right there

[white zodiac]

how did you study for your mid terms jw

[north schooner]

Booooo, a couple glass cards would have done it too, but no luck. Didn't draw the blue seal the ante before so I passed on observatory. No xMult jokers in the shop for ecto. Ah well

[acoustic kettle]

Fuck all we ball

[uncut slate]

loads of people have the mod that shows the little number previews under scaling jokers without having to click them, why is it so different to show me the boss blind without having to open run info?

the info is there

it's just hidden behind a click

same thing

even a popover on run info would be nice

[acoustic kettle]

I mean joker displays is usually for something like an idol or something

[uncut slate]

i still don't see why it's different

it's taking info that's available but normally concealed and making it always visible

just saves you clicks and time

maybe i leaned too far into the moron bit

[vocal rose]

its not as it would be easier

no one’s denying that

[uncut slate]

so all i got was hate instead of anything else

[vocal rose]

but you were emphasizing PRETTY heavily you

NEEDED it

[uncut slate]

yeah that's the leaning too far into the bit

[terse dock]

You learn the boss blind when you enter the ante

[manic talon]

i do think that mod already exist? like i can kinda remember a streamer having the blinds on the top left part where the SHOP sign used to be

[median crystal]

best run yet

its 3am fuck

[vocal rose]

ask in #⚙・modding-general probably

[uncut slate]

i mostly just want a qol feature making the blinds visible at all times

[uncut slate]

oh i didn't see that channel, forgot that discord has a feature where it just doesn't show you channels for some reason

[vocal rose]

I think you need a role

[white zodiac]

we’re kinda used to checking blinds manually, this is more of a modding chat question

[uncut slate]

someone should make a qol feature for discord that shows me all the channels in the list of all the channels like it used to

[white zodiac]

yeah

[shell dagger]

If we could see everything at once then I wouldn’t be able to click the run info button 💔

[manic talon]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1361887195752956024 yep it already exists

[median crystal]

you can also just click show all channels

nvm you cant

[uncut slate]

i was being facetious that time

[median crystal]

you can follow categories tho

[north schooner]

Looks like it not an uncommon sentiment https://www.reddit.com/r/balatro/comments/1lbxvkh/is_there_a_mod_that_forces_you_to_read_the_boss/

[tranquil cargo]

while we're doing mod requests, is there one that lets me click to the deck in the row of decks I want instead of having to spam click the arrow?

[manic talon]

what

[uncut slate]

yeah the main thing is that i haven't used a server with this feature in ages so i forgot it existed

[median crystal]

select decks quicker

[acoustic kettle]

There's a mod for that no?

[uncut slate]

still don't really get the point of hiding channels in the list of channels

[manic talon]

i dont get it either

[weary wharf]

Just had my best run

[manic talon]

idk maybe it would be less overwhelming, but its also only for one channel

[uncut slate]

as much as i like this game i do think it has some ergonomic issues just with the number of clicks to do a lot of common game actions

[median crystal]

same :D

[uncut slate]

like selecting a deck and stake

[weary wharf]

Ggs man

[eternal anchor]

bruh. I sold Greedy Joker after it was created by Riff-Raff. I start the next round and Greedy Joker immediately returns

free money

[uncut slate]

also if you lose a challenge it's weird having to go select the challenge again vs being able to quick reset immediately before you lose

[shell seal]

Thats really greedy

[solid tapir]

first run I've ended up skipping a lot in (apart from doing the speedrun achievement)

[median crystal]

what mod is that to calc score

[solid tapir]

Fantom's Preview

[shell seal]

Holy moly a straigh flush run?

[twin lantern]

hiiiiiiiii

[solid tapir]

yessir

the shop kept giving me neptune so I had to switch from straights

final deck

[shell seal]

Royal flush build

[thick linden]

your deck page looks like a cage

what are you keeping in there

[solid tapir]

it does lol

[solid tapir]

my jimbos

also level 25 pairs because I took orbital skip for the pillar

[tacit quail]

mimes and baseball just chillin doin nothing 🔥

[solid tapir]

emotional support jokers

[fervent wolf]

Easy

[viral raft]

is this the worst Balatro tier lists oat??

[tacit quail]

934k peak

[coarse silo]

God I love erratic deck

[eternal anchor]

Triboulet in S+ tier 🥀

[viral raft]

static?

oh

i HATE erratic deck

[viral raft]

all thoses tier list are actually made in serious

[vocal rose]

these lists are so ass

[north schooner]

turns out poly holo is not, in fact, a free win

[solid tapir]

erratic deck is surprisingly my highest win rate deck

[tacit stream]

the first one might be outdated considering the blue 8 ball

[viral raft]

how many Rs?

[solid tapir]

R's ?

[modern panther]

Hear me out... Double cabendish...

[viral raft]

yep, is a 1.0 tier list

even that is kinda bad

[solid tapir]

banana maxing

[viral raft]

restarts

[solid tapir]

I don't restart runs

[viral raft]

oh that's cool

[solid tapir]

I either die or win

[viral raft]

which strategy do you use to erratic?

[solid tapir]

pairs

or flushes

[viral raft]

i always found it boring

[viral raft]

is always pairs hahaha

[modern panther]

I love Erratic

[solid tapir]

pairs are the way

sometimes full or flush house too

rarely flush five but it has happened

[viral raft]

okok

[serene forge]

I hate Full Hourse

[solid tapir]

Full horse

[viral raft]

Full house SUCK AHH

Horse

the worst hand to make build imo is full house

[solid tapir]

the scaling feels bad on full houses

[viral raft]

yeah

[solid tapir]

ceres on the other hand

[viral raft]

is so bad

[solid tapir]

[viral raft]

Any other hand is easy or have better scaling

like 3oak or two pairs

[solid tapir]

yeh

[viral raft]

both are easier and better

[solid tapir]

erratic can enable full house tho

[viral raft]

and if you want to oneshot just 4oak

[solid tapir]

but you'd ideally wanna be switching to flush house later

[viral raft]

yeah

Full house isn't terrible...in early antes

full house IS terrible in making builds

theres a little difference there

[solid tapir]

regardless we must play the seed how it is presented to us

if it's a full house seed then it's a full house seed

unless you're on white stake, then do whatever

[spice spruce]

Anyone? What’s a double tag?

[solid tapir]

duplicates a skip

[modern panther]

Andy on Luxury Tax?

[viral raft]

makes the next skip double

[solid tapir]

so if you have a double tag and take an economy skip, you'll have two economy tags

[viral raft]

yep

[spice spruce]

I don’t understand

[viral raft]

Double tag turns into the next skip

example i have one double tag

and then i skip a econ tag

so that double tag turns into a econ tag

did you understand?

[solid tapir]

I just did a rum on anaglyph

so I can take screenshots to explain

[spice spruce]

Thank you!

[viral raft]

np!

[marsh vine]

does DNA work with disabled cards

[solid tapir]

no

[viral raft]

yes

[solid tapir]

really ?

[marsh vine]

ty

[viral raft]

you mean debuffed right?

[solid tapir]

that's good to know

[viral raft]

like that big X

in the card

yeah you can copy it, still debuffed but yeah

[marsh vine]

yeah, that

[viral raft]

yes

[modern panther]

Do I take the Andy?

[solid tapir]

are you doing pairs

[viral raft]

it's still debuffed but keeps copying the exact card

[solid tapir]

and is there value in your deck

[viral raft]

same with Six sence

[modern panther]

I'm on Luxury Tax and I'm doing Full House

[solid tapir]

actually good to know for sixth sense

[viral raft]

the card is debuffed but six sence still destroys him

and gaves you the spectral

[solid tapir]

probably take it

why full house tho

pairs would be much easier

[viral raft]

more tips? Debuffed face cards doesn't count as face cards, count as debuffed card, so you can ride the bus and still winning +mult

[solid tapir]

this one I did know, but thank you

[modern panther]

AHEM we don't talk about it

[viral raft]

ok

mmm what about this one

[solid tapir]

at least it's not as bad as my flush addiction

thankfully I have recovered

[viral raft]

the packs that you buy, can't contain the cards that you have in the current shop and consumable slots

[modern panther]

Also, can we please talk about the amount of Photochad runs I've gotten?

[solid tapir]

also helpful knowledge, but as someone who has 230 hours I did also know this haha

[white zodiac]

bus crashes if vamp is placed before bus when sucking a stoned face card

bus doesn’t crash if bus is placed before vamp

[viral raft]

example: i have a pluto in my consumable slot, so when i buy a celestial pack, is imposible pluto to appear (except for telescope)

[viral raft]

nice

[solid tapir]

flush

[modern panther]

JESUS CHRIST

[viral raft]

also a one that i hate, don't ankh early vampire

[white zodiac]

and exceeding max unique planet spawns

[viral raft]

yep

[modern panther]

Lemme guess, the first one sucks off the enhancement, leaving the second one hungry?

[zinc karma]

Im pretty much the same, and im not proud of it

[viral raft]

yep

[white zodiac]

u can if u want to :3

[solid tapir]

pairs are getting up there

[viral raft]

i mean isn't that bad but yeah sucks

[white zodiac]

that’s what vampire does yeah

[viral raft]

works if vampire already have alot of xmult

[zinc karma]

Ye, im just finishing my gs to start playing fr

[proven gulch]

new account, i'm going to be pure :)

[solid tapir]

glgl

[solid tapir]

[white zodiac]

already ruined it

[urban sun]

vampire being +0.1x instead of +0.25x will forever suck

[modern panther]

Yo, shoutouts to 2018

[granite ridge]

.25 is too much no?

[zinc karma]

Why tf do u have a cai shortcut?

[viral raft]

is still good

[granite ridge]

half an x mult per decent tarot is crazy

[modern panther]

Because I can

[granite ridge]

portable clanker

[modern panther]

Omg, I can do multiple apps at once

[viral raft]

this is my new account :D, 26 hours, opinions?

[white zodiac]

ight

[granite ridge]

is that built in feature

[viral raft]

now i just have to C++

[solid tapir]

my high card lives in the future

[modern panther]

Samsung phone

[granite ridge]

cool

[viral raft]

do the challenges

[simple bronze]

double imolate do i win here?

[granite ridge]

nice progress

[solid tapir]

I will, anaglyph was my last gold stake

tyty

and indeed

[proven gulch]

i wanna unlock challenges soon

i love jokerless

[viral raft]

cool

Challenges are fun

but too easy imo

besides Jokerless maybe

[solid tapir]

jokerless was easy ngl

[viral raft]

yeah

just 4oak or straight

[white zodiac]

all of them are easy with gn being luck based

[viral raft]

kinda

[solid tapir]

Still grateful for Knife's edge for teaching me that dagger is a great +mult joker

[proven gulch]

jokerless is easy

[viral raft]

i mean, challenges are hard...until you realice that is white stake

[solid tapir]

them being on white stake is nice

I can have a chill experience

[granite ridge]

true

[solid tapir]

versus my normal gold stake runs

[tranquil cargo]

at least until you go for modded challenges, several of which are on gold stake

[solid tapir]

Pokermon on gold stake is rough icl

[granite ridge]

anything is possible on modded so

[thick haven]

tryna unlock satellite for completionist, whats the play here? take the gift card and gamble for temperances or focus on steel and gold for the mime

[solid tapir]

not winning but helps

[proven gulch]

mime

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[solid tapir]

bloodstone without dice

[granite ridge]

switch lusty to gift card maybe

[granite ridge]

they have oops

[cosmic sun]

drunkard, mrspectred, steven stickered

[solid tapir]

awesome

[proven gulch]

but if you fail use anaglyph, it's pretty consistent

[modern panther]

SYNERGY (it's not synergy at all. Don't listen to the lies.)

[solid tapir]

guys I didn't get the completionist+ achievement

what has happened

[granite ridge]

post 2020* attention span visualized

[granite ridge]

try to win one more game, just white stake is fine

[solid tapir]

alright

[marsh vine]

would K Q J 10 10 with Four Fingers (a straight) count as containing a pair?

[uncut slate]

this guy is awesome

[proven gulch]

worth? :)

[granite ridge]

helnaw

[proven gulch]

i'm taking it for the funny

[granite ridge]

la planta incoming

or the face card face down boss that i forgot the name of

[proven gulch]

le econ after one round

[marsh vine]

have fun with 3 joker slots

[proven gulch]

oh

tribo

would have liked a canio but ok

or a chicot ngl with eternal pare

[zinc karma]

This is...

[zinc karma]

The worst part about this is that i can throw stencil away

Otherwise i lose

Then what should i get?

[proven gulch]

max synergy?

[zinc karma]

Trib there for fun

[proven gulch]

what's funny is it's not even good

[simple bronze]

is this ggs?

[zinc karma]

And the plant awaits u

[proven gulch]

chicot next arcana

[vocal quartz]

it’s so silly

not good but silly

[modest stirrup]

any luck on black deck?

[olive marten]

it's begging me for a dub

this is actually nuts alr so much synergy

[simple bronze]

this is ggs right?

[vocal quartz]

yorick i love you man but i might have to kill you for my green jokers

[simple bronze]

man photo chad sucks

[granite ridge]

what was the build

[simple bronze]

this

[modern panther]

I just want you to know, every level of High Card is from space jonkler

[olive marten]

ante 3

nuts

[simple bronze]

no good i lost with a photochad settup

[fervent wolf]

2 gold stake in a row

[olive marten]

player error

[proven gulch]

NO ANTE 7 PLANT

[simple bronze]

wym i had literaly same settup

1 poly chrome photo and chad

and chips

[olive marten]

yeah we not the same tho

ima come out on top

[proven gulch]

• cutty :)

[marsh vine]

is this worth? Straight lvl 12

[shell dagger]

No

[solid tapir]

I completed a plasma white stake run

no achievement

[lunar zealot]

How are you ante 4 with scraps

[mint jetty]

The oldest trick in the book

[lunar zealot]

Take soul sell trib take hermit

[zinc karma]

Damn

[lunar zealot]

ez 28 dollar

[zinc karma]

Still, what should i do here??

[mint jetty]

Bro

[granite ridge]

?

buy invis

[zinc karma]

But i wanted trade for deck fixing

Might go with 4oak again

[wintry ice]

it's better for pairs

[granite ridge]

invis better value overall

[wintry ice]

as straights already have more than enough chips

i think poly trading card is great for ensuring larger hands

[eternal anchor]

Finally have a promising run with Campfire and Obelisk

[granite ridge]

its abandoned deck and there's drunkard is that not enough

[proven gulch]

MY PHONE IS GRAYSCALE SO I THOUGHT A QUEEN WAS A KING BRO

[zinc karma]

Haha

[granite ridge]

is that a clock on top right

[zinc karma]

How did u even lose that?

[proven gulch]

greeded for the business card value and played 3oak instead of 4oak king

[granite ridge]

trib aint allat without retrigger

[zinc karma]

Bummer

[proven gulch]

my deck was fixed + chad

[granite ridge]

oh damn

rip then

[proven gulch]

it's fine though

only purple stake

[zinc karma]

Skill issue, but errors exist for u to learn with then

Then thats ok

[granite ridge]

the greed consumes

many such cases

[proven gulch]

the problem wasnt even the greed

[granite ridge]

oh lmao

that card mistake thing then

[proven gulch]

it's that my phone was grayscaled so i couldnt tell things apart good

[dark fable]

This one hurts the worst

[eternal anchor]

uhh, no, it's a palm tree

[dark fable]

Did the math, too

[granite ridge]

dats crazy

[dark fable]

This could’ve been my score if I got to serpent with burglar

[granite ridge]

huh

ohhhh

[dark fable]

Unseeded naneinf and I sold it all

Just to delete 1 card with a hanged man

I’m legit crying

I’ve been trying for 2 weeks

[granite ridge]

does 2 copy actually gives you that much card

[zealous trellis]

i have more hearts then spades, do i pivot to bloodstone

[dark fable]

Wait your right

[dim granite]

What copy

[dark fable]

My math is ass maybe

[granite ridge]

i thought you need specifically 4 copy joker for non legendary naneinf

[dark fable]

I added 3 per hand but it’s actually 2

[proven gulch]

photo

[granite ridge]

yeah

[dark fable]

Still tho

I could’ve probably done it

[granite ridge]

nah trust me you really need more copy joker than baron/mime

[dim granite]

Knew it lmao

This dude has done jokerless without card enchantments (like gold and steel I think that's the right word) and he's copying wrong?

[dark fable]

Also I was rerolling for hanged man/other copy n shit so don’t hate on my money🙏

[zealous trellis]

also do i take th buffoon pack

[dark fable]

I just got unlucky with my invis

[proven gulch]

perkeo while leaving shop, chad if glass

[dark fable]

I’ve done my homework before trying this

[granite ridge]

who