🕹・game-discussion

[plush sierra]

does anyone know btw

i don’t wanna test it when i have trading card and rebate on golden needle

[white zodiac]

no

[winter pike]

i would assume so

but i dont know

[white zodiac]

you're always given 1 hand

at the start of each round

[plush sierra]

awesome

so it doesn’t have a downside in golden needle

that’s nice

[cosmic hearth]

can i see like which ante i have beaten

[white zodiac]

to counteract the ability to get water

[white zodiac]

you can count with the amount of rounds you've gone through had you taken any glyph vouchers and skips in mind and make it divisible by 3 if you don't wanna look at the ante number

as for bosses you'll have to memorize them

[cosmic hearth]

oh damn it

are stone cards good

[white zodiac]

yeah

[cosmic hearth]

FUCK EXTRA LARGE BLIND

[white zodiac]

specifically for pairs and high card

[cosmic hearth]

oh ight

[white zodiac]

as enhancements go they're in the middle of the road but 50 chips can very well be x5 your hand score if you're having trouble finding chip sources via jokers since there's less of those

[cosmic hearth]

aww shucks ggs

good run

[terse vale]

dies ante 4

ante 4 is generous tho

oh my god round one too

lmaooooo

[white zodiac]

<@&1133519078540185692>

[lyric shore]

how come its ante 4 round 4

[cosmic hearth]

uh

uhhh

[naive jolt]

Guys i got the hardest choice smh

[cosmic hearth]

i may or may not skipped some blinds

counter to extra large blind BABYYYYYYY

[brave goblet]

If that's golden needle then no

Jokers and vouchers can never take you down below 1 hand (so stuff like troubador and hieroglyph are literally free on golden needle)

You will, however, lose instantyl if your hand size goes below 1

[sly coral]

i hate this guy

[cosmic hearth]

first time actually arranging my deck are yall pround of me

[tardy spade]

me when I see people naneinfing in portal, of all games

[valid abyss]

i forgot i was in the needle and wanted to farm my wee and i lost

damn you needle

[rugged umbra]

TRUE! #IHATENEEDLE

[valid abyss]

can we pay respects to the worst wee run to ever exist

i could barely draw 2s

[rugged umbra]

what
where

[unreal iron]

i am actively fucking losing my mind

oh my god just end me

plasma deck is pain pain pain

i'd rather do black deck for the rest of eternity than play plasma once

end me

[acoustic kettle]

Losing ante 1 on plasma

[tardy spade]

a pair of aces won't work?

[acoustic kettle]

Is such a skill issue

[tardy spade]

with the hanging chad and potential runner value

[sly coral]

it wins w hanging chad

[unreal iron]

it does but like why cant i draw anything

[tardy spade]

skill issue

[left vigil]

Never punished rare skip

[tardy spade]

time to be munched by dagger

[left vigil]

obviously

[stiff fjord]

obby licks.....

[rugged umbra]

thats not a plasma issue

[cosmic hearth]

ts rare?

[rugged umbra]

start digging in your deck twin 😂

[mild scaffold]

obliterated

[valid abyss]

where is your wee

[mild scaffold]

i had so much deck fixing with trading card it was kinda nutty

[shadow sundial]

perkolater irl

[valid abyss]

why are you doing 2s with no wee

you need a wee to reliably do the 2s

[mild scaffold]

trading card cassually being the best joker tbh

[valid abyss]

your wee feeds the 2s

[mild scaffold]

stickered credit card and flush mult

[shadow sundial]

2s feed wee

[rugged umbra]

erratic gave me 2s

[left vigil]

Wait I just realised Brainstorm can actually only just copy dagger

[valid abyss]

my wee loves the 2s

[rugged umbra]

wee didnt come

[mild scaffold]

the last remaining jokers are stuntman, castle, chips threes, and something else im forgetting rn

[left vigil]

my wee loves to come when I don't need it to

[valid abyss]

my wee only comes for 2s

[mild scaffold]

beatiful blackboard deck

[shadow sundial]

rest in peace stm u are too goated

[left vigil]

riff raff my beloved

[uncut slate]

plasma is the only deck where drawing much beyond a pair is regulalry needed imo

[acoustic kettle]

This is almost my first ever gold stake win line up

[left vigil]

Still scoring for me rn

[acoustic kettle]

Stuntman ice cream banner castle

[mild scaffold]

Very nicee

[rugged umbra]

minecraft mob farm

[valid abyss]

jokes aside

wee joker is so cool

wait a fucking second.. jimbo gives 4 mult, wee joker is a smaller jimbo and only goes for 2s, 2 is half of 4

wee is jimbo's son

[left vigil]

Joker recycler

[mint jetty]

Is it too late for green?

[valid abyss]

take it if you can handle it

by handle it i mean scale it correctly

wee is good for green joker since you constantly use 2s to build wee

[acoustic kettle]

Just don't win too fast

[mint jetty]

K i'll try

[valid abyss]

just win fast

[cosmic hearth]

that space card is so op

[valid abyss]

i love astronaut

or space joker

or whatever that guys name is

[acoustic kettle]

Fuck space joker

[valid abyss]

FUCK you

[floral mural]

space man is a good slot filler since it has no downside

[valid abyss]

fact

[left vigil]

omg wheel hit polychrome

[acoustic kettle]

No fucking trigger in 20 hands

[valid abyss]

thunkatron should unironically rename space joker to spaceman

[acoustic kettle]

After that

It hits on hc on a throwaway hand

Fuck him

[valid abyss]

photoshopped

wheel does not hit

it cannot hit

[naive jolt]

I threw massively since i duped blueprint with an ankh from arcana pack thanks to the voucher still being it in ante 2 😭
And then i got greedy...
ADJATWVB

[valid abyss]

it is physically impossible to hit

[naive jolt]

Never lucky

[valid abyss]

im the luckiest man alive

it is just a fact that wheel does not hit

[warped dirge]

yesterday i got 3 polychromes in a row with the wheel

[cosmic hearth]

is this the credit card

[brave goblet]

ye

[cosmic hearth]

should i

[valid abyss]

top 10 most OBVIOUS lies of ALL Time

[cosmic hearth]

or the otgher olne

[naive jolt]

Copium
You know it's fake

[warped dirge]

i used all my luck on it

[cosmic hearth]

my eye are bleeding from playing balatro for 4 hrs stratight now

[warped dirge]

im probably dead by sunday

[cosmic hearth]

SO ADDICTING

[valid abyss]

yeah yeah whatever

[left vigil]

Double dagger?

[valid abyss]

i love ballsatro

[valid abyss]

are any of the other jokers helping you

if the answer is No then Yes

[left vigil]

Well it dependss

I took it

[odd musk]

Do we think the game might ever get a true multiplayer mode?

[left vigil]

Never punished

[vagrant dawn]

No

[valid abyss]

just download the multiplayer mod, and no because localthunk said specifically balatro was always intended to be singleplayer

[odd musk]

I mean you just have to add some jokers to protect yourself and mess with others

[odd musk]

And fair

[thorny wigeon]

"You know what they say, the house always wins!"

[valid abyss]

*always punished because itll get eaten

[odd musk]

I was gonna ask if in any future updates we could see new jokers

[left vigil]

Heart of the cards okauy

[odd musk]

Maybe we as a community could come together to try and solve some of the rng

To see if there are any tells of if a run is gonna be bad or not early on

[vagrant dawn]

[valid abyss]

problem: everyone hates each other and their joker choices

[odd musk]

lol

[valid abyss]

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[odd musk]

I am currently trying to force diamonds and clubs runs

[wintry ice]

do the things available in the shop outvalue bus

[odd musk]

Just so I can unlock thoes other jokers

For them

[unreal iron]

gifs are allowed now?

[odd musk]

So I can have everything

[valid abyss]

no i just

copy link

i send it first in my private server and just copy the link

[unreal iron]

oh

[valid abyss]

works fine

[naive jolt]

Bro is so wrong

[valid abyss]

EXACTLY what im talking about

EXHIBIT A

[mighty topaz]

Should I take the ectoplasm?

Hmmm

[left vigil]

banana

[valid abyss]

8 ball is the worst joker
queue the 30 8 ball enjoyers running to my location to stab me on a monday evening

[minor portal]

challenge deck......

[naive jolt]

You gotta have shame if you post your little Wee in the server
Yet you gotta post your runs because that's how it is

[valid abyss]

HEY

my wee is average size

[odd musk]

My missing jokers

I somehow have all five ledgendairies

[valid abyss]

i cant fucking find canio for the life of me

[odd musk]

Before I got all common ones

[left vigil]

This is some weird run

[minor portal]

try opening spectral packs 🌻

[left vigil]

Bruh from a judgement

[odd musk]

Once you unlock them do they have a chance to spawn in any places jokers spawn in?

[pale wolf]

🤔 why are polychrome before mult

[left vigil]

dead ass, it's a challenge run

I can't change the positions of the daggers

[pale wolf]

oh oh

[pale wolf]

I didn't think anybody would ever duplicate the daggers on that

[floral mural]

hey it might do something unlike seance or idol

[left vigil]

I took it for the meme

[naive jolt]

Take arcana skips and reroll

[naive jolt]

Idol best
Seance joke

[minor portal]

Idol best??

[floral mural]

idol sucks tho

like in 8 antes it cant be reliable

or even usable

[minor portal]

oh boy I can't wait for my idol to finally be usable by ante 13

[naive jolt]

Idol best
#1428744009362440322 message

[naive jolt]

You're so wrong

You can start to be deckfixed enough for it to work by ante 6

[odd musk]

My legit first blind of my new run

[mighty topaz]

Wheel of fortune 1/4 chance my ass

[odd musk]

I got a strait flush

[pale wolf]

It's definitely possible to do Idol it's just never the best option

[naive jolt]

Gay flushes are better (secret hand)

[floral mural]

if im on a god run idol in gold stake doesnt matter i win anyways

[naive jolt]

It's fun and gambling

[minor portal]

that's definitely a perspective to have about it

[floral mural]

fun and gambling and reliable are different metrics

[cosmic hearth]

i hate that boss blind man

[left vigil]

Well it's weird but it'll win me the challenge

[cosmic hearth]

ggs

[pale wolf]

I don't understand your point

something being fun doesn't make it the best

[inland fable]

I did it guys, I did it c+

[cosmic hearth]

i always lose to extra largfe blind

[left vigil]

I'm about to cook

[naive jolt]

That's where you're wrong
You're trying to maximize winning
I'm trying to have fun

[pale wolf]

well don't misinform people when they're asking what thing is the best

In a game discussion channel ostensibly for discussing objective gameplay strats

[left vigil]

les go

[naive jolt]

Idol best tho for endless runs

[pale wolf]

still not the best for endless

because Baron exists

[naive jolt]

It's in the bests

[left vigil]

Trib and baron

[pale wolf]

also trib is a better idol

yea

[cosmic hearth]

JACKPOT

[mighty topaz]

[shell dagger]

Imagine both

[trail holly]

fucking green deck gold stake completed this deck is not fun to play

i got a cool straight run tho

[pale wolf]

foil skip
gross
white stake
fine
raised fist
with a foil is a win

[naive jolt]

I disagree, it's way harder to find

[pale wolf]

That does not make it worse as a joker

[cosmic hearth]

ight

[odd musk]

My current joker selection

Weird run start

[lean spade]

that makes superpos a really good joker then

[mighty topaz]

Very nice

[pale wolf]

what stake

[floral mural]

its red

[pale wolf]

I'm not sure if that actually corresponds to the stake being played

it doesn't

[tardy spade]

Gold stake's too easy

66 pairs

[mild scaffold]

look at that tryhard shop

[cosmic hearth]

ggs

[mild scaffold]

lvl 60 pair by the end of ante 8

with 8 mult in constellation

kinda nutty

[odd musk]

My run is becoming oops all ace of hearts

lol

[rugged umbra]

spare trousers is the best joker

[ivory sun]

oh paradolia you temptress

[mild scaffold]

yup... i stickered only one joker tho

thats a shame

[tardy spade]

there is no best joker

[fading cobalt]

True...

[fading cobalt]

This is kinda wrong but ok

[rugged umbra]

there is and its spare trousers

[rugged umbra]

i ❤️ spare trousers

[ivory sun]

it’s baseball card

[tardy spade]

what if you get it on ante 8?

[hard silo]

Idk it’s killed me early on black deck before

[rugged umbra]

thats bad

but that applies to all scaling jokers

[tardy spade]

constellation is generally fine to get ante 6

[hard silo]

But you said it’s the best joker

[rugged umbra]

thats right

[hard silo]

Obelisk can make sense on ante 8

So

[dire inlet]

chance for negative is 1/300 right?

[hard silo]

And campfire

0.3%

[mild scaffold]

woooooooo

im so gonna sticker this sucker up

[rugged umbra]

im gonna try gold staking for the frist time

[dire inlet]

is obelisk good on ante 16?

[rugged umbra]

wish me luck gang

[hard silo]

Prob

[dire inlet]

good luck

[odd musk]

I lost

Sad

[tardy spade]

speaking of spare trousers on black deck...

[west copper]

You will never draw a two pair now

[rugged umbra]

best joker

[west copper]

Suffer

[rugged umbra]

false

you will always draw a two pair

[west copper]

Curse of the four of a kind over two pair drawing

[tardy spade]

it's at 8 already

[hard silo]

Manacle

[west copper]

Evil versus good

[tardy spade]

....

[west copper]

My child will play straight flush’s

[tardy spade]

is this even worth the $10 + $2 interest now?

[west copper]

On black deck

[west copper]

You’re thinking too hard about it

It’s blueprint with pants

It’s time for you to win my child

[hard silo]

You normally spend down a lot on black deck anyways

[rugged umbra]

true

[west copper]

You’ll get more money coz of the extra hand anyway

[hard silo]

This is a reasonable question he’s asking

[hard silo]

What

[tardy spade]

this is black deck, not blue deck

[west copper]

I might note to myself I am dyslexic

Also a balatro fan

So yes I cannot read

[hard silo]

Ok

[tardy spade]

ok 100% worth now

[west copper]

Jesus Christ okay yeah maybe Bp is risky here lol

Pants also won’t be scaling too much unfortunate

But he got madness

Yeah okay game wants him to win

Gg’s

[hard silo]

You can move jokers around yk

[dire inlet]

flash card enthusiast what is your highest flash card

[west copper]

Black deck is -1 hand

[hard silo]

And

[west copper]

I’m saying he’ll have 1 less hand to scale trousers

Which in the grand scheme doesn’t really matter

[hard silo]

Yes I know what black deck does

[west copper]

Probably in the 120 range, it’s been a while since I had a good flash card run cause flash card my beloved won’t appear to me

[dire inlet]

nice

[west copper]

I remember I had it duped though

So it was like 240+

Could’ve gone a bit into endless but I hate endless

[dire inlet]

tragic

120 aint bad at all

[west copper]

That green reroll button was tasty

I might play anal deck just so I can find the reroll tag with flash card and profit immensely

[small narwhal]

guys I'm lidewally on a streak rn

I haven't been to the bathroom in 7 days

[west copper]

The Violet vessel is coming

[dire inlet]

i mean if you want a crazy flash card you can just find a way to loop tarots via emperor temperance and fool for infinite money but thats not in the spirit

also flash card's negative art is so good

[west copper]

Flash card polychrome and negative are so good looking man

God I love the polychrome on flash card I dunno why

[west copper]

Ah I haven’t really bothered to try and loop tarots

I mostly play just to beat ante 8

Which is why I haven’t bothered with like naninf yet

[dire inlet]

i see i see

[hard silo]

Well yeah nobody has e304 seconds to spare to be able to do that

[dire inlet]

i mean you dont have to do it in one sitting

[hard silo]

Tell me how long it will take then

In hours

Just to think about it

[dire inlet]

idk i think my current run has probably gone on for close to 6 hours across the past 3 days

[hard silo]

You’re not getting to e308 numbers worth of money in a reasonable amount of time providing multiple sessions

[dire inlet]

oh terms of money

i was just talking about a high flash card not naneinf with flash card 😭

[hard silo]

Or flash card

Well what’s high for you

[spring dragon]

What do I do here?

[dire inlet]

idk mines at 2920 right now but flash card wasnt even the point of this run to begin with

[dire inlet]

burglar for econ imo bloodstone is unreliable without oa6

[spring dragon]

Thanks twin ❤️

[dire inlet]

i gotchu fam

[cosmic hearth]

FINAL ANTE YEY

[west copper]

That’s genuinely impossible

[dire inlet]

yea unless it was an xmult scaling joker its impossible

[west copper]

It’s possible with infinite time

But all +mult scalers would take beyond a reasonable amount of time to scale to naninf

lol

[cosmic hearth]

i meesed up at the final ante

[dire inlet]

that's unfortunate

[west copper]

Oh my god this run looks like an actual travesty

What the fuck happened

Why is your +mult reliant on dross and misprint

😭😭😭😭😭

[cosmic hearth]

uhm

[dire inlet]

how long have you been playing for

someone

[cosmic hearth]

i tot misprint was good?

[dire inlet]

it is alright early game

[west copper]

It’s actually like the worst joker but still usable early game

[cosmic hearth]

oh\

i ddint know

ggs

[west copper]

It’s just like a worse +mult in the entire game then all other +mults

It’s secret mechanic is why the community even talks about misprint these days

[floral mural]

misprint is good enough early game but like many early game flat mult jokers dont rely on it if you dont have to

[cosmic hearth]

so misprint is bad?

[dire inlet]

i think its solid i prefer it to all the common +mults other than michel and abstract tbh

[west copper]

You can rely on flat mults early but you can’t rely on misprint even early game

[floral mural]

you do sometimes

[pale wolf]

yea you can

[west copper]

But it’s inconsistent

[dire inlet]

idk its average comes out to 11 which is solid

[west copper]

I don’t wanna rely on rng for my +mult

[pale wolf]

it's more the chance of low rolling 4 times in a row is usually negligible

esp early game

[floral mural]

misprint is very usable early game

[mild scaffold]

observatory is beautyful

[pale wolf]

misprints most annoying for overscoring imo not underscoring

[west copper]

Flash card mentioned

[pale wolf]

it messes with scaling

[west copper]

❤️❤️❤️❤️

[floral mural]

something tells me flash card wasnt the winning play there tbh

[mild scaffold]

kept it all the way from ante 1 since i had chaos the clown for free scaling

[waxen jackal]

Get destroyed you stupid heart 🔥

[floral mural]

those blue seals is insane

[mild scaffold]

it didnt win on its own but it definitely helped in the small antes

[pale wolf]

3 separate rank+suit combo blue seals

[mild scaffold]

blue seals are right about the most op thing in balatro

[pale wolf]

very lucky on the standard packs that run

[west copper]

Blue seals are getting nerfed aren’t they

[floral mural]

flash cards issue is being worse than other scaling flat mults minus boots

[pale wolf]

perhaps

[floral mural]

im not calling boots better than flash card

[summer jay]

It fucks you

[floral mural]

im not insane

[mild scaffold]

ahem you mean my castle run that was carefully planned with a perfect suit distribution? ill accept the apology

[cosmic hearth]

guys if u overscore higher the fkame will uup higher right

[pale wolf]

what the heck do you mean perfect suit distribution, Castle chooses from your deck

[mild scaffold]

very fun

[pale wolf]

It's not like ancient Joker, you want to make all of your deck one suit with Castle

[west copper]

Yeah castle is insane dude

It functions like rebate I think

But for suits

[pale wolf]

It's easy to remember that ancient Joker is the only random Joker that functions that way

every single other one chooses from deck

[west copper]

Castle is easily one of the most underrated jokers

Tho

[floral mural]

castles aight i like it

[pale wolf]

castle is great

better than runner imo

[mild scaffold]

both are the same

Require deck fixing for optimal scaling

[west copper]

It’s not like “it’s underrated cuz people don’t like it” people like castle it’s just no one talks abt it lol or pays attention to how insanely fast you can scale it

[west copper]

It easily destroys runner in faster scaling cmon

Not dunking on runner

[pale wolf]

Straights don't really need deck fixing
and as you've just demonstrated, neither does Castle since you've been equally distributing your suits which is the worst possible way of playing Castle

[unreal island]

castle is really good at scaling while you do other things

[mild scaffold]

I got 234 chips this castle run using all my discards (no green joker)

Last run with runner I got 300 also using all my discards

[dire inlet]

lets gooo

[unreal island]

like you dont really need to go out of your way to scale castle it kinda just does its thing

[west copper]

Your run does not = in general

[pale wolf]

again, you played castle as inconsistently as it can be played

[west copper]

Tarot looping?

[pale wolf]

That is the bottom floor of Castle

[mild scaffold]

Fair enough

[mortal aurora]

garbage ahh SEX seed
face card jokers with no photo
mid af

[unreal island]

sex seed

[dire inlet]

yea early perkeo during fragile challenge so i told myself a good chance to break the run

[pale wolf]

runner is great though, I'm just saying how good Castle is that it's better as a chip scaler

[royal shale]

Runner is better imo but both are situationally able to be better than the other

[pale wolf]

The thing with runner is that it requires you to draw a straight and then play it, so that's automatically more resources than just discarding suits

[mortal aurora]

flat mult gaming

[royal shale]

not automatically, you don't need to try and find a straight

[mighty topaz]

White. Play too casually for anything higher than red.

[west copper]

I feel like castle scales undeniably faster than runner though? like let’s say runner has the most optimal deck for it to be used in same with castle I feel like castle is demolishing in its peak versus runners peak

[royal shale]

you stumble upon a straight and get rewarded

[unreal island]

allat just to not play towards straights

[dire inlet]

i got flash card and fortune teller putting in crazy numbers rn

[west copper]

This made my heart warm a little

[pale wolf]

but that's the thing, you get the same scaling from Castle without having to stumble into things

[unreal island]

temperance value alert

[spiral cairn]

burnt joker my beloved

[pale wolf]

and also you still don't have to burn a hand for Castle scaling

[cosmic hearth]

CHAT MY WHEEL OF FORTUNE HIT OMG!111111111!!11111!!!1111

[royal shale]

im a bit rusty, castle's +3 chips per rn right?

[dire inlet]

yea we at 103 sell value and i love that swash proves it 😭

[west copper]

Like let’s say you have PEAK runner scaling like optimal to the max

[pale wolf]

yea

[west copper]

I still think castles peak optimal scaling is just faster

By design

[royal shale]

tyty, couldn't remember if it was nerfed from 4 to 3 or 3 to 2 ages ago

[pale wolf]

Even playing one straight a round consistently doesn't seem that much better than Castle default scaling

[mild scaffold]

Fair enough

[unreal island]

going for straights also puts u at risk at fucking up ur obelisk/telescope setup since u could easily fall into high card debt

[west copper]

Ngl aside from wee , what chip scaler beats castle?

[royal shale]

hold on, someone made a Rebate Average Value calculator ages ago I can use to calculate the average scaling of castle on a base deck

[pale wolf]

runner obv in more winning runs because it's not that much worse than Castle and it's a common instead of an uncommon

[west copper]

Oh and castle has baseball value

Added bonus

[pale wolf]

so true

[dire inlet]

hiker since it can go even higher based on retriggers

[unreal island]

we love our bbc

[west copper]

Oh right

[unreal island]

(baseball card)

[pale wolf]

hiker is the funny

[west copper]

I completely forgot about joker lol

Hiker

Hiker might have the most potential for chip scaling

Even past wee

[dire inlet]

or bull

[unreal island]

on one card yes

[dire inlet]

those two have highest potential

[pale wolf]

theoretically under ideal circumstances hiker is the fastest highest scoring chip scalar
the circumstances are having retriggers and not playing different cards every round

[dire inlet]

i think under ideal circumstances bull is best

[west copper]

So id assume fastest chip scalers (not including bull due to its weird nature)

1. Hiker (max potential)
2. Wee (obvious)
3. Castle(?)

[dire inlet]

actually hiker > bull

[unreal island]

dusk pareidolia hack sock & buskin hanging chad seltzer on a last hand 2 of spades with a red seal

[pale wolf]

speed of scaling is only one factor tho, hiker is without a doubt pretty ass for a chip scaler

[west copper]

True, castle most times would clear it

Tenfold

But hikers potential is wild

[unreal island]

black deck can make this setup without antimatter btw so its obviously the best deck

[dire inlet]

just use negatives then

[earnest pelican]

You think it's ass now, Hiker used to be +1 chips when it was first introduced, not +5 lol

[dire inlet]

yea old hiker was ass

[west copper]

Old hiker my behated

[pale wolf]

and doc said it was OP to double it to 2 chips

[earnest pelican]

Insane lol

[pale wolf]

he wasnt that great at the game at the time though

[unreal island]

just more proof he's the goat

[west copper]

To be fair nobody was really that good at the game yet back then

[willow frost]

for him specifically lmao

[west copper]

So I understand why he would have bad takes like that

[dire inlet]

i would make +1 hiker work

[unreal island]

as a natneg sure

[west copper]

You’re not the number 1 hiker enthusiast

[mighty topaz]

Which would be better? Blueprint to copy wee or copy hack?

[west copper]

Are you.?

[dire inlet]

nah im nice with it trust

[pale wolf]

current hiker being 5 times better than old hiker is wild

[west copper]

Copy hack

[dire inlet]

im not #1 but im up there

[mighty topaz]

Ok thank you

[dire inlet]

its in my top 5 jokers

[spiral cairn]

yo how does antimatter work

[pale wolf]

you copy hack because copying wee does not make it scale faster

[earnest pelican]

Vampire used to be just absolutely busted, it gave .2x per enhanced card and they didn't have to score, so debuffed cards worked too.

[unreal island]

and still being verdant fodder 😭

[west copper]

+1 joker slot

[spiral cairn]

is it you buy blank and you hqve a chance to get it?

[novel moss]

Copy hack for scaling then copy wee to pass the blinds/bosses.

[dire inlet]

copy hack to scale wee, copy wee to score more

[spiral cairn]

or you gotta get blank 10 times

to unlock

[pale wolf]

It's the second tier voucher to blank once you unlock antimatter

[west copper]

It works like all upgraded vouchers

[dire inlet]

you gotta buy blank 10 times to unlock

[spiral cairn]

oh

[dire inlet]

but you can buy blank, exit to main menu, and re open to buy blank again

repeat 10 times

[spiral cairn]

ah

[dire inlet]

and you will unlock it

[spiral cairn]

i should have done that

[pale wolf]

lame

[unreal island]

easiest way is to have an a39 run where you claim all the vouchers so you can get blank 9 more times

[dire inlet]

it's lame but it's optimal

[earnest pelican]

Ah yes, the easy ante 39 run lol

[novel moss]

After you unlock it, you still need to buy blank for antimatter to show up in the run.

[dire inlet]

ive tried to do a 100% file no losses so whenever i find blank i do that to get the progression as soon as possible

[unreal island]

so its really 11 times

or 10 if you somehow find antimatter in the same run

[dire inlet]

no it's 10 because on the 10th one you can find the blank latter

[pale wolf]

no losses 100% is insane

[novel moss]

Well you buy blank 10 times for blank to not be a waste of cash.

[pale wolf]

what's your gold streak

[dire inlet]

gold streak is like 17 but i've never tried to push it

[stark karma]

has to be the nastiest run I've ever done

[white zodiac]

this will require a lot of streak experience

rotating*

[pale wolf]

hm
Make it content

[thick wind]

what do i even do here 😭😭😭😭

[unreal island]

"nastiest run" and its all top 10 jokers

gg

[dire inlet]

this is the route i made for myself and the furthest i got was black deck to orange stake since i hate black deck

[thick wind]

i've got a bunch of lucky club kings

[stark karma]

they're good joker but this shit was just not fun

[white zodiac]

I wouldn't call duo top 10 but sure

[unreal island]

better than photochad for the 13 quintillionth time

[stark karma]

like any other xmult please

red card also is just not fun at all

[white zodiac]

what

[unreal island]

granted, have fun using flower pot in your pair run!

[stark karma]

trading card was great

[pale wolf]

is there a way to replay the tutorial ever

[white zodiac]

this is blasphemy

[earnest pelican]

Red Card is really good but it's boring so I mean I get you

[unreal island]

other than the tutorial seed right

[earnest pelican]

I like cards that send me on side quests

[white zodiac]

wipe device saves

[stark karma]

exactly

[dire inlet]

you can do it seeded or you can delete like all save data

[pale wolf]

well I'm just thinking because it's technically the only seeded run that you can unlock things on

[unreal island]

tutorialmaxxing goes crazy

[stark karma]

it's lowk stupid it doesn't restart on new saves

[white zodiac]

I don't think about it

[earnest pelican]

I tried to have my gf do the tutorial and it didn't give her one, so now I know why

That's lame

I'm not deleting my 100% lol

[stark karma]

I just got chills

[pale wolf]

like if I deleted all my profiles?

[dire inlet]

i've tried to push the tutorial seed before it is unfortunately not great

well ive tried to push it on the tutorial run itself

[stark karma]

doesnt it have like early dusk?

what else

[dire inlet]

no like you'd have to go into steam files and delete all your data

[white zodiac]

if you offload balatro it still remembers your achievements

[stark karma]

my name seed has like ante 1 perkeo

[dire inlet]

you can unlock chad easily but sock is really difficult to unlock

and i haven't had great luck with making baron/mime work on it

ideally you also deckfix to discard a royal flush in the process to unlock bs as well

[mighty topaz]

GG

[dire inlet]

and if you are a gamer you do it with only 4 jokers throughout the run to unlock invis

[twin lantern]

true gaymer moment 🗣️🔥

[pale wolf]

I assume you can't save scum a hand to play the same face cards for sock unlock

[dire inlet]

i honestly want to try pushing it again now but going for invis on the way

[dense wraith]

this run started with spare trousers, turned into trib + dusk

[dire inlet]

i'm not sure but in my tutorial runs i dont bother to savescum even for antimatter since it doesnt show up early enough to warrant it

granted i tried this back when i was still super mid at the game

[royal shale]

bets?

[dire inlet]

foil burglar

[twin lantern]

holographic rocket

[pale wolf]

also I'm confused, your rules say no save scumming but the conversation started with you talking about save scumming antimatter unlock

[dire inlet]

i will test this later

[dense wraith]

nothing

[royal shale]

[twin lantern]

[dense wraith]

or as in..

[nova junco]

_template

[dire inlet]

yea that was in the og days of my attempts i've updated the rules whenever i change my mind on the subject

[pale wolf]

I would world the red cards for blackboard value

wheel is a waste of time

[royal shale]

im on my gamblemaxxing file

it's not an option

[pale wolf]

oh ok

[manic talon]

ok but what if it hits poly

[pale wolf]

then ill need a new parrot

[dense wraith]

I mean just get an xmult joker at that point

preferably one that can scale

[pale wolf]

Like phoyograph

[manic talon]

yea but what if the Xmult also has a poly on it

checkmate atheist

[twin lantern]

why do that when this can happen

[twin lantern]

fucking checkmate

well done

[pale wolf]

so many skips

You're not getting full value out of the rocket 🙂

[twin lantern]

ik

i wasn't playing that run to win anyway

[white zodiac]

whuh

[dense wraith]

you'll still have that brainstorm at the end of the game before it gets debuffed right?

[dire inlet]

should i charm tag to look for an ecto or something or do i hold out for a negative skip

i have the omen globe

i could also get a deja vu as well which could help a ton

[twin lantern]

yeah

nothing to copy tho

[dire inlet]

does anyone know how omen globe works if tarots are blocked?

why are we fire reacting i dont know the answer 😭

[cyan ocean]

michel of the gros

[dire inlet]

amazing short term value

assuming its ante 1-3

[cyan ocean]

it is
ante 1 big blind shop

[fading cobalt]

Fibonacci is the loml

[manic talon]

the % of spectral doesnt change, you just get the default tarot instead (strength)

[dire inlet]

oh its percent based gotcha

thanks

[dense wraith]

now just hope it doesn't die immediately

[cyan ocean]

hopefully not again

[manic talon]

<@&1133519078540185692>

[split gorge]

yes?

[dense wraith]

it was a scam bot

[manic talon]

theyre gone now

[cold stone]

this is my entire deck lads

im cooked

my cards keep evaporating

[royal shale]

bets?

[dire inlet]

foil burgler

burglar

[royal shale]

[dire inlet]

damn

[cyan ocean]

i just bought seed money on green deck

im stupid

[dire inlet]

no you are getting the voucher pool fixed up

[willow frost]

little do they know the next 5 antes are money tree

[white zodiac]

we buy that too

[peak hearth]

So what do I do to not lose obelisk value

[dire inlet]

uhm

you start only playing pairs and then rebuild it up

or you play 4oak straight flush 5oak flush5 and flush house

[peak hearth]

Neat

[dire inlet]

and hope it only takes 10 more hands to win

[peak hearth]

I'm on ante 4 I think I got time

[random ice]

Got Ankh with my Poly Rebate ante 2

Basically got infinite money

[peak hearth]

Yo does anyone know how I can memorize the whole dictionary

[white zodiac]

reading

[peak hearth]

How much

[pure summit]

do I take baron in this run?

[dire inlet]

wooooo charm tag gave me an ecto and a red seal!

[wintry ice]

is high card leveled at all

[royal shale]

baller start

[dire inlet]

do we keep or sell the cola to find more negative colas later

[steady hedge]

fuckkk, that's close

[dire inlet]

oh thats heartbreaking

[steady hedge]

would've won if I kept chad instead of baseball card

[royal shale]

bets?

[steady hedge]

the idea of a funny cursed build just got in my head ig

[dire inlet]

foil seal

[steady hedge]

[royal shale]

[dire inlet]

fawk

[steady hedge]

bootstrap throwback trio dusk baseball card btw

guess we're going with no hands in sight

[novel moss]

Oh man, Verdant Leaf. How will I ever get through?

[dire inlet]

and thats a +3k fortune teller

[cosmic sun]

you don't play it like this, you build up one hand around 12 times then play other hands

[robust fulcrum]

Not sure if I should take cavendish

I’m playing lucky cards

[gloomy bluff]

nanners

always take the banana

[dire inlet]

over tribe probably

[glass creek]

tribe death

[robust fulcrum]

But if I keep Chad I can build my lucky cat more

Idk

[dire inlet]

yea keep chad

[brittle tendon]

maybe oops

[dire inlet]

get rid of tribe

[robust fulcrum]

Ok

[dire inlet]

banana is a striaght upgrade to tribe

[glass creek]

tribe not chad

[dire inlet]

use chad to scale the cat

[robust fulcrum]

Yeah

Thx

[dire inlet]

and hopefully you find a sock or photo or whatever you need to give the run more lifeblood

[unreal iron]

so like wdym here

[brittle tendon]

questions for the chat: What would be some balatro terminology you use or see others use

[unreal iron]

bbc

baseball card yes

[stuck finch]

bruh, what the fuck?

[fading cobalt]

I just got a natural negative eternal square joker

[stuck finch]

rather interesting

[dire inlet]

i mean like i have a bunch of negative tarot cards which typically cant reappear without a showman. the omen globe voucher makes it so spectral cards can take place of tarot cards in arcana packs. i was curious how this interacts with a bunch of the negative tarots

[brittle tendon]

thats not joker names

[random ice]

Wdym?

[dire inlet]

but it turns out each tarot has % chance to be replaced with a random spectral

[fading cobalt]

Excuse me?

[dire inlet]

so it doesn't do anything really

[dire inlet]

wassup

[stuck finch]

well i've yet to see a boss that required you to sell a joker.

[brittle tendon]

bro probably doesn't know you don't have to sell a joker for verdant leaf to win

[fading cobalt]

How did you get 3k tarot cards??

[random ice]

Verdant leaf just does that

[fading cobalt]

Perkeo+crystal ball+ emperor???

[dire inlet]

yea pretty much

[stuck finch]

You're right. I can't even get past Ante 6.

[dire inlet]

i got all the negatives

so emperor only spawns fool + temperance

[fading cobalt]

Understandable have a nice day

[brittle tendon]

oh you are new new

[stuck finch]

well, 12 hours of losing isn't really all that exciting

[brittle tendon]

jsut play pairs bro

[fading cobalt]

Thats when you need to start learning what you're doing

[brittle tendon]

and don't skip

[dire inlet]

perfect abstract jorker

[brittle tendon]

ever

[fading cobalt]

Lol

[north schooner]

If you do an anaglyph voucher skip, you can get multiple blanks without having all the vouchers

[stuck finch]

hot damn, 23 jokers?

[dire inlet]

yea 😭 the run is kinda crazy

[smoky socket]

nuke the plant.

[north schooner]

Nice

[unreal island]

Addicted to jokering off i see

[dire inlet]

luchador incoming trust

[zenith kiln]

hello guys, quick question
if i buy hieroglyph voucher while in ante 8, do i win the run or not?

[brittle tendon]

get glass bruh

[brittle tendon]

no you got back

[unreal island]

Coochador in the poly skip

[dire inlet]

it sets you back to 7 so you have to fight 2 finisher boss blinds

[smoky socket]

I tried, not a SINGLE arcana 💔💔💔

[zenith kiln]

LOL

tysm

[robust fulcrum]

I’m getting blessed in this seed holy

[brittle tendon]

then stop being photochad brain rotted and them maybe you'll win

[unreal iron]

ive seen it being used 3:

[robust fulcrum]

What should I sell

[royal shale]

bets?

[smoky socket]

balatro player allergic to taking chances 💔💔💔

[dire inlet]

holo constellation

[unreal iron]

me when i cant manage my econ for shit

[brittle tendon]

hey maybe the update will be out when you finally win a run without it

[unreal iron]

12$ going in ante 6 is crazy

[stuck finch]

update?

oh my???

[brittle tendon]

its not gonna be out for a while

[smoky socket]

i actually have but thank you 🥹✅✅

[stuck finch]

maybe i'll make it to ante 7 and get stuck there! ❤️

[royal shale]

[brittle tendon]

if you can beat 7 then 8 should be fine

i would recommend playing scalers

[robust fulcrum]

Idk what to sell or if I should sell at all

[brittle tendon]

i swear all i ever see you do is photochad

[brittle tendon]

whats cat at?

[robust fulcrum]

13.25

[dire inlet]

what does the deck look like as well

[brittle tendon]

drop oops take an invis

[west copper]

Bro got that blessed seed on him 😭😭😭

[royal shale]

bets?

[west copper]

Foil on constellation

I played this seed before

[dire inlet]

holo drunkard

[cosmic sun]

justice or luchador in shop

[brittle tendon]

negative rebate

[cosmic sun]

2 antes to prepare

[north schooner]

Keep the cola, sell blueprint/brainstorms you find

[unreal iron]

just use a strength

[unreal iron]

or fool for whatever

[west copper]

DUDE

[royal shale]

im on my gamblemaxxing file, I can't

[west copper]

I WAS SO FUCKING CLOSE

LMAOOOO

DUDEEEE I WAS THINKING ABOUT SAYING HOLO

😭 😭 💔

[royal shale]

I'm in endless rn and trying to boost the funny wheel count anyways

[west copper]

Wheel of fortune ALWAYS hits constellation

[brittle tendon]

whats the X/120?

[west copper]

In my experience it’s usually foil idk why

Never hit poly or holo

[royal shale]

the first one is Flushmaxxing to C+, the second is Gamblemaxxing to C+

[west copper]

Though I like foil a lot

[royal shale]

Deck Stake Wins

[brittle tendon]

oh

i see

[royal shale]

I'm stalling for the blue stake rework cuz Flushmaxxing is miserable with -1 discard

[torn arrow]

I love playing with the wee

[torn arrow]

Crazy seed lmao

Is that just a random or seeded?

[sly schooner]

random lol

[torn arrow]

Woww

Tbh I never share my crazy seeds because I'm too lazy

[sly schooner]

wdym

[north schooner]

Because if it hits, it's 10/20 foil, 7/20 holo, 3/20 poly

[west copper]

Is that actually how wof works

[north schooner]

Yes

[cosmic sun]

yea wall of flesh

[north schooner]

https://balatrowiki.org/w/The_Wheel_of_Fortune

[mint jetty]

Rare boss tag use

[cosmic sun]

gets crimson

[mint jetty]

I got verdant leaf

Had to sell bull for seeing double

[cosmic sun]

good one

[zinc willow]

Not too bad for unseeded black stake

[zinc willow]

Nice

[fading cobalt]

Trading card, red card and fibonacci are my top 3 jokers tbh

And DNA is shit

[random ice]

Trading card is strong but not that strong

[fading cobalt]

Dna is only good from packs

[ivory sun]

it is it solos

[random ice]

My number 1 joker is Mail In Rebate

[fading cobalt]

Never buy dna

[random ice]

Copy blue seals

Copy gold seals

[fading cobalt]

Trading Card is good for non econ reason

[random ice]

It's very powerful with the right targets

[north schooner]

I mean, if you're playing fib it's great

[random ice]

I'm aware of Deckfixing

[royal shale]

Top 3 is Cav Yorick Hologram

[fading cobalt]

Its one of the best methods for deck fixing

[fading cobalt]

You're right DNA can be good but its very situational and honestly its a overrated joker

[fading cobalt]

Having a legendary in your top 3 is abit crazy ngl

[random ice]

Not really, copying glass is good. Copying luckys is good

Yorick is very strong

[north schooner]

This is the correct take, but I thought it was well established

[cyan ocean]

FINALLY

[random ice]

It's a mid game joker

Like I almost always pick DNA in antes 3-6, as I have good stuff in my deck to copy and the money to use it on

[fading cobalt]

I was unaware of that

[modern panther]

What do I sell for bp?

[north schooner]

DNA is Reddit bait

[fading cobalt]

That is the most diverse hand levels I've ever seen

[modern panther]

Constellation

[fading cobalt]

Fair enough

[fading cobalt]

DNA is for clipfarming

[modern panther]

I get a ton of money from luckies

[random ice]

Also, if I have free slots, over $25, and the joker can do literally anything and it's not rental/Perishable I generally take it

[fading cobalt]

Like those clips that have a blueprint and a brainstorm and are copying 3 cards a hand

[sly schooner]

w negative

[fading cobalt]

Interesting

[random ice]

Like let me give you an example of the logic in play

Space Joker

[cosmic sun]

cert gaming

[random ice]

I buy it, even if it lands ONCE on the hand I want it's worth it

Why?

[north schooner]

Top three: red card, constellation, runner

[random ice]

Because it costs $5 and sells for $2

The cost of a planet is $3

[north schooner]

might swap bus for red card... tough

[cold finch]

Set for this stake

[north schooner]

Space joker is great

[fading cobalt]

Space joker or burnt joker

[north schooner]

They're the same guy

[cold finch]

Nvm...

[north schooner]

Burnt joker is spaceman upon reentry when he fell out of orbit

[pale wolf]

burnt is more reliable than space for obv reasons

[sly schooner]

i just went through 4 arcana packs 2 small 1 jumbo 1 mega and not a single deja vu😔

[pale wolf]

i mean its not that likely

[wintry ice]

space joker is generslly pretty good

[north schooner]

Did you mean spectral packs?

[sly schooner]

oh yeah mb

[north schooner]

that's more likely, yeah

[sly schooner]

most spectral cards are straight ass but some of them are hella good

[north schooner]

There's a good chunk in the middle range that are situational

[wintry ice]

spectrals aren't that much better than tarots on average

[pale wolf]

spectrals are more impactful early game

[white zodiac]

can't really manipulate spectrals as easily as tarots either

yar

[pale wolf]

no fool value to worry/think about

[royal shale]

bets? (it was )

[pale wolf]

judgement for chad

duh

ill do this every time btw

[royal shale]

I'm doing gamblemaxxing so wheel is the only legal tarot

[white zodiac]

k

[sly schooner]

yess i found him

[pale wolf]

(14/16)^2)×(12/16)^2)

hello

[tawdry burrow]

Dude turn 1 banana expire

[royal shale]

bets? (it was )

[tawdry burrow]

Also if you have the debug option enabled Balatro can run at 90 Hz/whatever refresh rate above 60 your phone has

This one

[sly schooner]

holy shit i blundered by selling my bloodstone

[stuck finch]

chat

[stuck finch]

we have achieved past ante 6

also rate my setup...

[sly schooner]

incantation in f schlawg

[north schooner]

I'll take it on a bus run, which are frequent

[shell current]

Grim above familiar is crazy

[sly schooner]

why would anyone use ride the bus tho

[north schooner]

Face cards are bad, and with grim you know exactly what you're getting

[north schooner]

2nd best scaling joker

[royal shale]

Incantation is fine, synergizes with Driver's, Hologram, and Midas, + whatever enhancement-specific stuff you get

[sly schooner]

nahh

[tawdry burrow]

I never get SOUL or BLACK HOLE in my runs man

[sly schooner]

ride the bus is one of the worst scalers

[north schooner]

are you just playing high score plasma runs, or what?

[shell current]

Face cards have 4 specific econ jokers they are incredible (small exception on abandoned deck)

[sly schooner]

i only got white on plasma i never play it

[tawdry burrow]

Abandoned deck hater speaking

[sly schooner]

yeah abandoned deck is just a worse deck with no upsides

[shell current]

Abandoned deck is good for playing straights but also you never take grim if you are playing straights

[north schooner]

Never dies to the plant or the mark

[royal shale]

ty mods

[cosmic sun]

how to heat up your phone

[cosmic sun]

ragebait or bad

[tawdry burrow]

Thanks mods

[frigid scroll]

tks mods

[sly schooner]

i guess so but thats still barely any upsides compared to any other deck

[ripe iris]

i hate the eye so much

[sly schooner]

super unfun to play with tbh😪

[tawdry burrow]

Checkered allows you to pretty much play Flush every time

[tawdry burrow]

Drain even more battery than what balala already drains*

[north schooner]

I don't really play abandoned. I like ghost deck

[cosmic sun]

high fps on a mobile card game

[random ice]

????

[cosmic sun]

💀

[tawdry burrow]

I'm currently on my checkered arc

[random ice]

Incantation is pretty good, makes Golds, Steels, Luckys

[tawdry burrow]

Mostly because of the Among Us cards

[cosmic sun]

did this player come straight from reddit or something what are these takes

[random ice]

Generally you pop out at least one good card in an Incantation

[north schooner]

sounds like it

[cosmic sun]

we got a live one!!!1111

[sly schooner]

literally just clutters your deck with useless stuff that you could super easily get with one tarot pack

[north schooner]

Imagine thinking bus is bad

[royal shale]

anyways I was trying to say, RTB is not the "second best scalar" nor is it bad, it's like A or A+ tier

[tawdry burrow]

Boys this one's alive!

[random ice]

My Deckfixing approach is to take clutter

Most of the base deck is garbage

[cosmic sun]

hating deck clutter is overrated just play pairs and enjoy your certificate bro this is gold stake balatro

[random ice]

So anything is an improvement

[cosmic sun]

You run those spectrals for devils

[tawdry burrow]

Every time I spin the wheel of fortune it goes

[random ice]

The only time I really worry about dilution is when I only have one blue seal

But once I death it

I don't care

[white zodiac]

be so fr

[shell current]

2nd best common mult scaler is not a bad take

[tawdry burrow]

I nearly never open Spectral Packs
Because they NEVER APPEAR

[cosmic sun]

over grimbo?