🕹・game-discussion

[knotty steeple]

and idk if its just me but

it was easy

[wintry ice]

plasma is either really easy or straight up horrible

[tacit quail]

guys rate my 31 gold stickers so far

[wintry ice]

no inbetween

[white zodiac]

you have to play gold in a few streak attempts to understand it's consistency

[knotty steeple]

real

[white zodiac]

or lack thereof

[wintry ice]

it's very inconsistent because you have to either go all in on chips or xmult

that makes the scoring a lot less versitile

[knotty steeple]

always bet on ante 1 foil stuntman ankh

[knotty steeple]

(genuinely a seed i had a couple days ago)

[wintry ice]

that would probably still have some risk against violet vessel

2.4mil boss blind

[knotty steeple]

hold on im gonna calculate that

[vapid nest]

Pray for directors cut

[knotty steeple]

i DID have some other foils and shit tho

ALSO IN MY NEWER SAVE

(it got reset once i actually bought balatro)

I STILL HAVENT SEEN VIOLET VESSEL

[white zodiac]

ppl have calculated this before, you wouldn't reach half the amount of the vv requirements

[knotty steeple]

I LITERALLY HAVE GOLD STAKE ON PLASMA DECK

AND I STILL HAVEN'T FOUND VV ONCE???

WHAT ARE THOSE ODDS

LIKE GENUINELY

[lean spade]

sorry i couldnt hear you, talking too quietly

[tacit quail]

bro just use ** bold not # bold

[knotty steeple]

-# is this better

[wintry ice]

1 - (4/5)^n where n is the number of runs that made it to ante 8

[vapid nest]

Yes

[white zodiac]

(gold plasma vv needs 4 hands of 1550 total chip+mult)

[knotty steeple]

i think like 20 runs

[tacit quail]

my real issue with this is that black deck kills how i usually win runs which is spectrals and sixth sense type shit and deck trimming which i cant do with my bullshit no money

[white zodiac]

gotta be more agnostic

[tacit quail]

and trading card etc

[knotty steeple]

1 - (4/5)^20

[wintry ice]

actually i think it's just

(4/5)^n

i mixed the formula up with success rate

statistics was like a year ago

[tacit quail]

50% progress nice

[knotty steeple]

0.01152921504

damn

~ 1/100 chance

if 1 is base

[vapid nest]

Dont have Satellite

[tacit quail]

what

[vapid nest]

You

[white zodiac]

don't have satellite

smh

[tacit quail]

money is end of run money no

ive had more than 400

because i definitely have satellite

[vapid nest]

Lol

[tacit quail]

i have a sticker on satellite

oh i dont

but still, it comes up in my shops

i think the money updates at game over screen/win screen

but if you get a ton of money and then reroll a ton it wont count the high point of that

[vapid nest]

I think you're lying

[tacit quail]

bro idk what else to say

[wintry ice]

videogame mechanics

[tacit quail]

idk man

[wintry ice]

the percentages are blue

[vapid nest]

Cheated save

[wintry ice]

so there was no unlock all button

[vapid nest]

Or photshop

[tacit quail]

photoshop 😭

[cyan ocean]

should i risk neg gros michel

[tacit quail]

til

[wintry ice]

no

[tacit quail]

i didnt know that they could be not blue

[cyan ocean]

ok

[wintry ice]

polychrome popcorn doesn't help

just take talisman

it's decent for money

[quartz ember]

whats the risk, nana just dies here

if you use hex

[cyan ocean]

ok

[tacit quail]

neg banner kinda cool

am i speaking shit or is certificate good for straights

[wintry ice]

straights want a small deck size

but cert makes blue seals easier to get so ig that makes up for it

[languid pecan]

I would probably pivot to a different hand

[languid pecan]

Straights are powerful but you're on black deck with anti synergy in that straights are less likely and you have 1 less hand to dig for straights with

[cyan ocean]

should i do flush or try to get other hands

[simple jacinth]

negative gros always looks sick as hell

[languid pecan]

Whatever has the most chips

[simple jacinth]

I don't think I've ever seen a negative smeared

[languid pecan]

You can do the math if you want

Its not too hard

[wintry ice]

yea

[fading dome]

negative smeared looks kinda eh

[simple jacinth]

I dig it

[wintry ice]

are you trying to do the merry andy unlock

[languid pecan]

That looks kinda awesome

[simple jacinth]

I wonder what the most hand xmult jokers anyone's ever unlocked in a run would be

[fading dome]

really? there's so many better negatives

[simple jacinth]

You'd have to play exclusively high card, straight/flush, full house

[simple jacinth]

true but it's good

[cyan ocean]

the what now im just trying to play the game

[simple jacinth]

blackboard negative is kinda neat

[languid pecan]

Eh who cares, not appreciating the negative art just because there's "cooler" ones is lame

[fading dome]

wdym "appreciating"

thunk didn't handcraft any of the negative jokers

[wintry ice]

why are you skipping so much

[cyan ocean]

because the tags are good

[lunar zealot]

what does that mean

[lunar zealot]

i mean ehhhh?

[cyan ocean]

???

[lunar zealot]

skipping is inherently high risk with varying reward

[languid pecan]

Oh yeah wtf

[cyan ocean]

im getting 50 dollars when i beat the ante 1 boss

[lunar zealot]

and sometimes the rewards are good, medium or bad

[wintry ice]

most of them are not good enough to make up for what you're losing

[languid pecan]

Playing each round is better than skipping 95% of the time

[lunar zealot]

it really depends on context but generally skipping will never be as good as playing blinds

[vapid nest]

67oak

[wintry ice]

investment is an exception

not the norm

[lunar zealot]

we tell new players not to skip because they don't know enough about the game to properly weigh opportunity cost of skipping vs playing blinds

because you can always skip blinds --- whether you should is another matter altogether

[cyan ocean]

i just want to play normally can i just do that???

[lunar zealot]

nice strawman

[wintry ice]

buffoon packs, top up tags and orbital tags can help a lot in some situations

but not all of them

[lunar zealot]

it's that kind of anti intellectualism that's so prevalent on the internet these days

[acoustic kettle]

Coolest negative design is gotta be castle

[wintry ice]

what does playing normally constitute

[lunar zealot]

and i genuinely don't get it

[languid pecan]

One skip tag I like to consider is early handy tag

[cyan ocean]

i dunno the way i want to???
you can say the tags arent good but i am going to use them anyways

[trim talon]

Fell for it again award 💀 ante 2 mr bones hard carried

[cyan ocean]

and plus im always skipping small blind because of red stake

[lunar zealot]

#theusualsuspects

[cyan ocean]

??? what does this mean

[wintry ice]

most tags are worse than getting the first shop

[mild scaffold]

beauty of a run

i got a rocket in ante 1 + a hex card from omen globe, it was carrying the whole way through my high card run

[wintry ice]

interest and hand money is also a thing

there's a cost to it

[lunar zealot]

not that you should always skip small blind anyway

it's literally -3 dollars that's just a rental

[trim talon]

I always skip for round 1 charm tag and reroll if no soul 💀

[mild scaffold]

stickers jokered:

wrathful
rocket
SHOWMAN

[lunar zealot]

playing the blind is still almost always worth it

[mild scaffold]

thank god i got showman out of the way now

[lunar zealot]

only reason not to play the blind is if you can dupe money tags

[wintry ice]

round 1 charm tag is usually too much of s risk because of that

[lunar zealot]

like if you got soda earlier

[mild scaffold]

play magic deck if you wanna take skip tags

lets you actually play the game more often

[trim talon]

The gambling spirit within me stirs.

[languid pecan]

What

[cyan ocean]

im on ante 1
im skipping because the shop is useless
the tags are good
and small blind gives nothing

[wintry ice]

or something like ethereal tag in a hologram run

[lunar zealot]

inb4 ecto/aura

[trim talon]

You get money for remaining hands tho

[cyan ocean]

the skips are better

[mild scaffold]

ante 1 rocket carries the economy so good like jeeeesus

[wintry ice]

how so?

[fading dome]

Yooo use the new wiki instead of the shitty fandom one btw

[wintry ice]

you get money from hands and an extra shop

that's usually better than a random joker or whatever

[cyan ocean]

i got 50 dollars

[cyan ocean]

the 50 dollars was better

[wintry ice]

investment tag is an exception

not the norm

[cyan ocean]

and the double joker is also better

[wintry ice]

how so

[cyan ocean]

i like the cards too

[lunar zealot]

lemme see

[cyan ocean]

and the planets

[wintry ice]

do you have an explanation for any of these

[trim talon]

Every time I pick up mr bones it ends up being a dead slot 😭 (might be survivorship bias though)

[cyan ocean]

because i get 2 free jokers
2 free cards
and 2 free planet cards

[languid pecan]

Opportunity cost.

They're not free at all

[wintry ice]

free cards at the cost of 1 round of scaling and money generation

so it's not actually free

[trim talon]

I think you will love throwback

[cyan ocean]

i can usually get to ante 8 by skipping most blinds anyways

[acoustic kettle]

Love throwing it back

[mild scaffold]

get this man a (there is no throwback emote, this server is incomplete)

[wintry ice]

lower stakes have no risk

[wintry ice]

as it's implied by the stakes being low

[lunar zealot]

oh i forgot to x holographic tag

[cyan ocean]

lower stakes also suck imo

[wintry ice]

not really

[cyan ocean]

if thats what you think

[mild scaffold]

getting square joker holographic carries your run tho

[trim talon]

nah for a new player they're pretty challenging

[mild scaffold]

trust

[lunar zealot]

insane highroll

[wintry ice]

?

[lunar zealot]

get out

[cunning osprey]

lie, you always take the negative tag

[acoustic kettle]

Poly is kinda good

[lunar zealot]

reddit is down the hall and to the left

[hearty warren]

kami

💣

[trim talon]

Especially on gold stake 🤑

[cyan ocean]

if you think they're good, thats great

[mild scaffold]

this feels like the bell curve meme

[cyan ocean]

but im still skipping because i like the tags

[mild scaffold]

hold on lemme make a bell curve balatro meme

look at this big rocket

[acoustic kettle]

Poly i usually take when i have some scaling +mults and the game won't give me an xmult

[wintry ice]

why make the argument about them being good then

[cyan ocean]

??? i just said i liked them

[wintry ice]

you said they were good

[cyan ocean]

i wasnt stating a fact

i was saying my opinion

[acoustic kettle]

Honestly i feel like tags should be buffed so the jokers from it cannot be perishable / rental / eternal

Kokers

[cyan ocean]

kokers

[trim talon]

i love green koker

[wintry ice]

and your opinion doesn't align with what the game is actually like

[cyan ocean]

ok
but im going to play that way

[wintry ice]

ok

[trim talon]

throwback main 🔥

[cyan ocean]

i do love my throwback

[acoustic kettle]

Imagine taking a negative or poly tag just for it to land on a persihable

[wintry ice]

brainstorm vagabond let's go

also i usually find that i have enough space to sell something for stickers

but yeah this is a usecase

[trim talon]

i do not SCALE. i do not LOOK AT SHOPS. i SKIP FOR CHARM TAG. and if I don't get a Soul I REROLL.

[acoustic kettle]

Well good players can plan around that punish

[mild scaffold]

and then you have to scale the soul joker

the house always scales....

[trim talon]

chicot doesn't need any scaling

😎

[mild scaffold]

tell that to the manacle

[acoustic kettle]

What good is perkeo ante 1

[mild scaffold]

amazing most of the time, but still needs ample good play and a spice of luck

even if its just for selling the negative cards for money early on

[trim talon]

The humble 6 negative hermits

[mild scaffold]

while you find something worthwhile

[acoustic kettle]

Yeah

no tarots in the next shop

[mild scaffold]

thats just something that tends to happen

if you can, try to get an emperor card with perkeo

[hardy fable]

at worst it's 10 dollars or a golden joker if you have a consumable

[mild scaffold]

the most valuable card you can copy early on is hanged man, to get rid of as much clutter in your deck as possible

Then you can switch to copying a death card to make all your remaining cards into whatever rank you want

then you can do whatever honestly, most likely youll end up copying money cards / planet cards lategame

[royal shale]

Blue Seal but it takes up a joker slot (still S tier /hj)

[twin lantern]

i can't imagine cus it happened

[molten thicket]

what about hermit

[vocal rose]

idk I think it’s devil

[twin lantern]

infinite money :l

[mild scaffold]

its good but personally, id recomend you shouldnt waste the early perkeo antes to generate money, theres other jokers to do that

[vocal rose]

oh perkeo

[acoustic kettle]

I feel like such an early perkeo you have to sacrifice its value to buy scoring jokers first

[mild scaffold]

of course

thats just how it goes

[vocal rose]

I mean you buy one consumable and you’re making money by selling the negative

at the minimum it’s a golden joker

[royal shale]

you could also just sell it and have a better early Econ 100% of the time

[mild scaffold]

joker bait

[molten thicket]

10$ is 10$

[mild scaffold]

godd

[royal shale]

exactly

[heavy heron]

bro this happens every single time i take a tag

[molten thicket]

basically yellow deck+

[vocal rose]

so stop doing that

[heavy heron]

if it wasn’t allowed to land on a perishable i’d take those tags way more often

[mild scaffold]

i almost have finished gold staking ALL of the suit specific jokers

[heavy heron]

i have

[mild scaffold]

the last one i need is onyx agate

[heavy heron]

i mean i do it for fun like tags are fun

[vocal rose]

bloodstone before that is wild

[heavy heron]

the perishables are not

[mild scaffold]

i have lost 3 onyx agate runs, it couldve been over already'

[fading cobalt]

Do you guys pronounce balatro like Bae-Lae-Tro or Bah-Lah-Tro

[mild scaffold]

i stickered blood stone long before i ever considered wanting to do C++

its easy af

[tranquil cedar]

bah lah for sure

[molten thicket]

i take rare tags at ante 1 basically every time

[tranquil cedar]

who tf says bae lae tro

[heavy heron]

the tags are fun

[acoustic kettle]

Buhluhtruh

[fading cobalt]

Agreed

[fading cobalt]

Agreed+

[wintry ice]

bah lah tro is closer to the word's original pronounciation

[molten thicket]

burned

[vocal rose]

i’ve never heard the first pronunciation ever

[heavy heron]

buh—lah—tro

[royal shale]

buh-lah-tro

[vocal rose]

it’s buh lah tro or bal a tro

[heavy heron]

YEAAAA

you get me

[faint belfry]

ball a troll

[acoustic kettle]

Thunk never made a canon pronounciation

So

Balala

[faint belfry]

based

[royal shale]

“ah” pronounced like the A in “fast”, not the A in “bald”

[vocal rose]

ball is different from bal

[mild scaffold]

we're going pairs

i keep getting high card levels tho :(

[tranquil cedar]

Brolatro

Bad lad throne

[molten thicket]

the scholars circling the green stake tag

[mild scaffold]

or two pair??

what is riff raffs problem man i swear

[kindred tiger]

Got a pretty reliable money printer going

[sage abyss]

BARELY made it

[marsh goblet]

it's ante 7 dawg it's too late for this 🥀

[fading cobalt]

Stone card build?

[tawdry burrow]

Imagine getting a stoned joker with the Medusa challenge

[fading cobalt]

A stoned joker? Like a joker smoking weed??

[tawdry burrow]

Yes

[kindred tiger]

Ok well I’m in a pickle

I don’t have director’s cut and I haven’t had the plant yet

So idk what to do

I need chicot until I get DC

Potentially

[fading cobalt]

What do you need help with???

[kindred tiger]

And I need my money printer for Baron Hunting

[kindred tiger]

Taking blueprint or not

[sharp summit]

scary face vs odd todd

[kindred tiger]

Scary face

[cyan ocean]

well well well

[brave bobcat]

do you realy need the golden ticket

[kindred tiger]

I’m Baron hunting still

So I mean I guesssss not??

[brave bobcat]

i mean its either gold ticket or chicot

[sharp summit]

is it dumb to keep odd todd and scary face early game?

[kindred tiger]

I should probably make them steel now tho huh

[sharp summit]

tier 5

[brave bobcat]

yeah go for steel kings

and get those red seals

[brave bobcat]

no cuz chips are good

[kindred tiger]

Yee

[fading cobalt]

God forbid I get a fucking hanged man bro omg

[brave bobcat]

manifesting the stars your way twin

[kindred tiger]

Gdi I got DC next ante lol

YOOO POLYCHROME BP

[wintry ice]

you can sell dna if you aren't copying anything important

[kindred tiger]

Hey golden ticket is back!

[kindred tiger]

Nah I’m going for a Baron build

[fading cobalt]

I DIDN'T NEED THE STARS DAMNIT

[wintry ice]

are you copying a red seal or something like that

[brave bobcat]

[sharp summit]

this game is like diablo 2. so much grinding.

[cyan ocean]

no blind

[fading cobalt]

I need a better mult joker omg

[knotty steeple]

but it's HELLA fun

[wintry ice]

i feel like fists might be sufficient with how many chips you're getting

[knotty steeple]

also i fucking love throwback

Eu amo o throwbackkkkk 🔥/ref

[brave bobcat]

throwback best joker

[wintry ice]

throwback would be more fun if it scaled better

[knotty steeple]

1.75x instead of 1.5x

fixes all the issues

[wintry ice]

it's .25x

[knotty steeple]

fuck i misremembered

.5x would be better yeah

.75x would make it a rare

[wintry ice]

it has a pretty high cost compared to all the other xmult jokers that scale at that same rate

[fading cobalt]

I hate this game

I'm on ante 6 and couldn't find a mult joker I NEEDED

I also didnt get enough pair or high card planets bro

And now I get THE ARM

[wintry ice]

did you not get an xmult joker

[fading cobalt]

I got card sharp

[wintry ice]

ig you could have gotten some steel or whatever

[fading cobalt]

Omg I got past it

[wintry ice]

awesome

[fading cobalt]

I only got one chariot from my tarot packs

[wintry ice]

unfortunate

[fading cobalt]

And for some reason hallucination wont trigger

[wintry ice]

this would be a good time for a certain xmult joker

[tacit quail]

Peak Balatro

[fading cobalt]

Am i trippin? I've opened 5 booster packs and hallucination wont trigger

[zinc karma]

Meu gold stake no black deck foi de trhowback full skip 🤔

[heady narwhal]

throwback would be more fun if it got reverted to the effect of "cards held in hand at end of round carry over to next round"

[fading cobalt]

DUDE HALLUCINATION WONT TRIGGER??

[zinc karma]

Skill issue

[fading cobalt]

What the fuck.

[lunar zealot]

like

pseudo hand size ?

[winter pike]

statistics

[dry harness]

Do you have open consumables slots?

[fading cobalt]

I've opened 7 packs and it hasnt triggered...

[fading cobalt]

Yes bro

[tranquil cedar]

OMG OLIVIA PFP???

[winter pike]

only 1 in 128

statistically not unlikely

[fading cobalt]

It finally triggered

[hardy fable]

got invis joker

fun

[fading cobalt]

I used high priestess and when i used/sold the planet cards it started triggering

Crazy bug tbh

Bro I got cooked by the eye

I hate this game

[wintry ice]

green deck econ

[dire inlet]

wooo! huge negative pull

[kindred tiger]

Dude if I can find Baron I’m set

Like maybe to a higher ante than ever

[opal pivot]

What do i buy here

[simple jacinth]

the jokers you get for winning a run without playing a particular hand

[lunar zealot]

you mean The jokers

[kindred tiger]

Baron will just not show up I’m so stressed

[fading cobalt]

Thats what they said?

[simple jacinth]

duo, family, trio, order, tribe

[opal pivot]

Any rare joker skips?

[wintry ice]

less interest means less money to buy better jokers

[simple jacinth]

the rebels call themselves The jokers

[kindred tiger]

Not rn

I’ll take them if I can

But I might lose this next Anya

Ante*

[lunar zealot]

also i think you can only play high card fhouse and the illegal hands

and strush but who cares about strush

oh nvm two pair

we win

if you just play two pairs you can unlock all 5

[opal pivot]

Seriously yall...

[lunar zealot]

nothing ???

where is your econ

[wintry ice]

taking that many voucher skips without the money to buy them is an odd decision

[opal pivot]

I'm too cool for econ

[kindred tiger]

Hm ok I’m ok for this ante

[night turret]

Early game skips are so fire

[opal pivot]

I felt lucky :p

[night turret]

Free rare holographic along with it being x mult

I have a feeling the game wants me to play full house this run

[vocal rose]

on white stake sure

[lunar zealot]

who the fuck plays full houses

absolutely not young man

[wintry ice]

even taking grabber there wouldn't help you too much so idk what you mean here

[lunar zealot]

play 3oak and win that way

or even just pairs

[vocal rose]

felt lucky for what lmao

you can’t afford them

[lunar zealot]

white staker moment

no wonder they hate delgrat

because it's delayed gratification

[fading cobalt]

I just played a five of a kind hand with fives

Five fives of a kind

I accidentally reset my rtb bro omg I'm so dumb

[dire inlet]

should i sell perkeo? or maybe idol since i dont need it for scoring yet

or is invis not even worth since i can get a useless oops

[kindred tiger]

Should I get rid of photo for a better chance at an invis selling for something better

I’m getting e21 with mime there after using DNA in a round

Can’t get rid of 6th sense cuz it’s what allows me to have that many jokers

[mild scaffold]

Ante 5 is way too late for green joker right

[dire inlet]

show deck? are you trying to go endless?

[kindred tiger]

I think green joker works best around 4-5 cuz you’ve got some fixing done actually

[dire inlet]

like whats the goal of the run

[kindred tiger]

Yes

[dire inlet]

i see

[hardy fable]

a full house

[dire inlet]

i think so yea

[kindred tiger]

I’m TRYING to find Baron

[mild scaffold]

Delayed gratification is really not that good, it's at most golden joker

[kindred tiger]

All the clubs are red seal steel kings

[mild scaffold]

Cuz blue stake

[kindred tiger]

I went through like $700 trying to find Baron

[dire inlet]

id get rid of photo but if you dont find baron soon you might not have a lot of life left in the run

but good luck!

[kindred tiger]

Yeahh

Thank you

[dire inlet]

endless is fun

[kindred tiger]

OH HELL YEAH

[vocal rose]

snooze fest

[kindred tiger]

IT COPIED POLYCHROME BP

we still in it baby

For a bit at least

[heady narwhal]

you still have the same number of cards in hand but 3-7 of them are guaranteed to be the cards that were left in your hand at the end of the previous round

[dire inlet]

yea at least for now

you got this

[kindred tiger]

Yeeee

[mild scaffold]

Do y'all think yorick will be nerfed when blue stake rework comes?

[floral crown]

Cool seed I played it really badly tho

Like by ante 8 my 5 jokers were baron mime bp bs and dna

[heady narwhal]

guide for lategame +mult:
❌ grimbo
❌ red card
✅ three holographic jokers

[floral crown]

And I got greedy with the serpent way too early before I got my second blueprint :(

[kindred tiger]

Ok I got e36 I’m set for a while

[hardy fable]

lvl 10 straight and 2 mult cards too

[lunar zealot]

runner is technically +mult

[night turret]

I still won

[kindred tiger]

Ha and reserve parking

[vocal rose]

prolly not

[floral crown]

Is he that busted rn?

[vocal rose]

rebate should be nerfed though

[floral crown]

I’ve gotten him like once

[night turret]

Trying to get some specific jokers
Made a challenge for a friend to pick a random deck

[heady narwhal]

i forgot mult cards existed

[night turret]

So I went white stake

[vocal rose]

he’s the best legendary easily

x mult for existing

[hardy fable]

I only got 1 in my straight :(

[floral crown]

Over perkeo?

[mild scaffold]

He'll be better if blue stake gets reworked cuz then you'd scale him up 1.5 times every 2 rounds, instead of every 3 rounds

[floral crown]

Crazy

[vocal rose]

perkeo is bottom 2

[kindred tiger]

Er sorry e26

[vocal rose]

yorick clears and it’s not even close

[floral crown]

Is this just for winning gold stake

[heady narwhal]

i wouldnt think so since there aren't any numbers that could be changed

[vocal rose]

yes

[mild scaffold]

For consistent gold stake play, yeah

[vocal rose]

normal gameplay

[floral crown]

Oh okay

[mild scaffold]

The xmult

Thunk could change it to 0.75 gained instead of flat 1

[uncut slate]

24 discards or whatever

[heady narwhal]

that would be gross

[mild scaffold]

Nah, I think it has to be 23

[floral crown]

I guess for just getting to ante 8 yeah nothing rly gets close to yorick

[hardy fable]

how would yall nerf rebate, I would just make it uncommon

[heady narwhal]

23 is a reference to hamlet

[mild scaffold]

Same

[uncut slate]

don't care about Hamlet

[severe arch]

Hit the Road is not that bad ngl

[uncut slate]

isn't that guy dead

[heady narwhal]

$3 or $4

[mild scaffold]

I would give it 4 dollars

[floral crown]

1/5 chance for 1 dollar per card

[heady narwhal]

even if it was rare it's way overpowered compared to other econ

[mild scaffold]

That's the whole point

[uncut slate]

why would i care then

[floral crown]

also make it suit specific

[uncut slate]

if he's dead

[vocal rose]

that’s not a nerf to it nor is that even a good way of balancing

[lunar zealot]

this gross misunderstanding of shakespeare is ironically exactly what shakespeare would have wanted

[uncut slate]

i didn't read it

[kindred tiger]

Oh shit this might be it

[vocal rose]

rebate is just too good the numbers itself need to be changed or be more conditional

[mild scaffold]

Speaking of legendaries, I love this drawing (not mine obviously)

[uncut slate]

i was talking about Shakespeare being dead

[lunar zealot]

Hell no why is trib holding a baron

[kindred tiger]

moooo

Noooo*

[floral crown]

I got a cat balatro sticker pack ages ago and it is still on my desk and it is awesome

[mild scaffold]

So that you can play FF queens with 4 kings in your hand

[floral crown]

look at these little guys

[fading cobalt]

Bro no way I lost at ante 8 with final boss cuz my scoring was off by 2k

What the fuck man

[mild scaffold]

Lucky

[dire inlet]

should i pivot?

[mild scaffold]

That' sucks...

[fading cobalt]

No bro i lost by 2k

Not win by 2k

[mild scaffold]

It's way luckier that you get to lose by so little!

[floral crown]

what are you playing rn

[dire inlet]

i highly doubt it, he is a legendary he is supposed to be strong

fragile

high card

i dont have red seal tho my only one i found broke

eh i have infinite money ill find another one later

[floral crown]

you have a slight amount of money yeah

[dire inlet]

i mean i can also get more from emperor loops

since i have all the other tarots blocked i only get fool and temperance

crazy fortune teller value lmao

[cloud sinew]

i agree. i think it's fine that yorick is going to get like ~50% stronger basically, given it's a legendary.

[floral mural]

yorick wouldnt even be op you dont pick your legendary and the same sentiment is there for a lot of jokers

rebate needs a nerf bad when blue stake rework

[dire inlet]

yea roughly 33% stronger at higher stakes but it's already a free win even on the higher difficulties

rebate might need a nerf to 4 or even 3 dollars

i know balala makes it only give 4 since they tried to do some balance there

but thats mickey mouse

so

[cloud sinew]

$3 rebate would be ideal for me, $4 rebate would be the minimum i expect it to be nerfed to.
rebate used to be $3 and it was still good (pre-1.0.1f) and that was with current blue stake and old gold stake (-1 handsize)

[dire inlet]

yea i forgot about the pre 1.0.1f it was still really strong

[floral crown]

what do u guys think the blue stake rework gon be ._.

[dire inlet]

i think $3 would still make it almost identically as viable as it is now, maybe you choose to greed a bit less when looking for cards to discard via hands but its still strong in standard play and will still be an econ jojker of choice for endless

maybe gicket gets more use for endless instead

[floral crown]

balanced

[severe arch]

somehow

for 4 rounds in a row

[dire inlet]

i have no clue. maybe more expensive rerolls or something like that

[severe arch]

everytime this 1 specific lucky queen card scored

it hit the +20 mult

[west copper]

Why are we punishing flash card fans

For absolutely 0 reason

Lmafo

[lunar zealot]

what does a negative discard do

[dire inlet]

i dont want to punish flash card fans but im not sure what new blue stake could be

[west copper]

Is this payback for how orange stake ruined red card

Before it was reworked

[cloud sinew]

the blue stake rework is gonna be old orange stake... /j

[white anvil]

This is the most insane seed i have ever gotten

[west copper]

TRUTH NUKE

let’s ruin red card specifically again

Fuck yes

[cloud sinew]

holo goker into a foil into a blueprint into a soul is a very good seed

[west copper]

Also indirect vagabond buff

[cloud sinew]

arguably a nerf, harder to spend down because the packs will be larger increments

[white anvil]

Uhh anything about the king like thing in the top left?

Like some kind of baron or something

[cloud sinew]

i dont see anything of that sort worth mentioning

[shell dagger]

best buffoon pack ever!!!

[cloud sinew]

one dollar

[pale wolf]

sell rebate

[glass creek]

the hook + burglar + rebate synergy

[twin lantern]

I think I just found the best face card build

[shell dagger]

Should I do it

[soft vapor]

Finally

[lunar zealot]

Wait no let him cook

[shell dagger]

I lost the rebate run in round 2 due to greed

[cloud sinew]

time to lock in for some more green deck runs

[west copper]

Can’t you just use rerolls (FLASH CARD BUFF!!)

[soft vapor]

Got completionist 🥹

[shell dagger]

ugh I found photo

oh well

[dire inlet]

how do i bring myself to part with perkeo

[lunar zealot]

just sell it

[dire inlet]

but it's perkeo

[lunar zealot]

Poopenfarten

[still scroll]

guys where's my achievement to make the deck 20 or less

maybe because of mods?

[glass creek]

probably

steamodded disables achievements by default

[still scroll]

can i replay this seed without mods to get achievement?

[glass creek]

there is an option in steamodded to enable achievements for seeded runs iirc

[cloud sinew]

you can just enable achievements with steammodded, i cant remember how exactly but if you ask in #⚙・modding-general someone will tell you

[heavy heron]

is this achievement really allowed on abandoned?

i forget

[glass creek]

yes

[heavy heron]

that’s cool

i don’t even remember how i got my achievements atp

do i do the power move

i might have to make the power move

the power move being taking the bull and hex’ing it

[shell dagger]

4 chips

[trim talon]

wtf why

[dire inlet]

power move is hexing gift card

[still scroll]

i found an option to get achievements. now the question when exactly game count it

[glass creek]

it's ante 1 i don't think you need to hex a perishable bull

[heavy heron]

NO IM JOKING

DJFHEOFIFH

GUYS IM TALKING ABOUT THE GIFT CARD

[glass creek]

gift card gaming

[heavy heron]

THAY WAS THE JOKE

[heavy heron]

IT IS I AGREE

[dire inlet]

do it

[heavy heron]

do people really make such poor decisions

that it

[trim talon]

do it

[heavy heron]

didn’t seem like a joke

[heavy heron]

i did

aren’t you guys proud

[trim talon]

Should've taken the bull

[heavy heron]

LOOLLLL

[trim talon]

Run is ruined

[heavy heron]

you’re right

wrong power move

[still scroll]

yess i got it after buying booster (also there's soul card)

[heavy heron]

is it really a gift card if it’s eternal.. aren’t gift cards meant to be given to others

[heavy heron]

dubbb

[glass creek]

yes

[dire inlet]

omg its so sexy

[heavy heron]

that’s hilarious

[dire inlet]

another negative uncommon gone whihc means one step closer to idol or sock negative

[still scroll]

mf showing up when my deck looks like this

[dire inlet]

id take him rn

[still scroll]

take this as well

[simple jacinth]

your negatives came through, nice

[heavy heron]

you’re only about 11 strengths away from turning that red seal 2 into a queen

i see the line

[dire inlet]

i might sell my photo for a negative one to pop up ngl

this run has potential to get like all negative jokers unironically

[still scroll]

mah it's over

14 cards after ante 8 i did what i came for i'm happy

[dire inlet]

and since hes common i can just roll for one later

tragic

[trim talon]

No idol 😔

[still scroll]

the seed is super cool. free poly erosion into ankh into~~ "remove first discard card" joker~~ trading card

[dire inlet]

trading card is fun

[still scroll]

yes that one

[dire inlet]

should i go for another negative before i fight the boss

?

i want to farm them up but it takes forever

[languid valley]

❤️

[dire inlet]

nice!

[cloud sinew]

white stake build lol

[prime gate]

Hi everyone! Do you know if anyone in the community has got every joker at the same time (having 145 negatives)

I’m going for it and I want to know if I’ll be the first

Almost every joker, as Gros Michel and Cavendish cannot coexist

[cursive lion]

i think you just got to get lucky with double and negative tags? some jokers require you to enchance some of your cards (steel/stone/glass joker, golden ticket, and lucky cat)

[prime gate]

I’m using Perkeo to block all tarots except Judgement, Fool and Emperor to have “infinite” judgements and get all natural negs

I am also of course accumulating Double tags, but the only neg skip left in the seed Im using is on Ante 38 so I plan to be done by then

[valid abyss]

ok guys fun fact

i like canio

[lavish geyser]

Is balatro multiplayer mod down?

Idk if its ok to ask here

[knotty steeple]

okay so

play anaglyph deck

spam double tags

pray for a negative skip tag on ante like 30 or something

success!

[prime gate]

You dont get enough double tags for all rare jokers to spawn

[unique pecan]

bruh what is this seed

ANOTHER INVISIBLE

Thats third this run

[shell dagger]

Cola though

[acoustic kettle]

They can actually

If you get more than 1 gros michel

[royal wave]

ggs, the hand i lost on

[wintry ice]

kinda tempted to take this

also my wifi is down so

oh the next boss is manaclr

i should have grabbed icecream atleast

[frank crypt]

We goin’ to the fuckin’ moon

[wintry ice]

ok nvm i think i live

[sharp seal]

would this be a throw?

[haughty carbon]

Doc got like 120

[wintry ice]

barely

[wintry ice]

3 ectos is risky

[haughty carbon]

Ecto what 😭

[sharp seal]

ye, my hand size would be 4

[haughty carbon]

Everything is foil

[acoustic kettle]

That many ectos and on baron mime too

[wintry ice]

you also have a free slot with ticket

[sharp seal]

oh ye ur right, I literally can't use it

[dry harness]

All your jokers have editions so it won’t work

[sharp seal]

😭

[wintry ice]

true

[sharp seal]

I might actually get nan inf this time, I've been trying for days

[acoustic kettle]

Why ecto though even

You want hand size for baron mime

[cloud sinew]

108 unseeded iirc

[sharp seal]

well yeah, but I need to fit in burglar and potentially another invis joker

[pale wolf]

yes they can?

just have multiple michels at the beginning of it

one extincts and allows Cavendish

[cloud sinew]

yeah

[prime gate]

True

[cloud sinew]

every joker can co-exist

but not all jokers can be in the pool at the same time

[wintry ice]

i should remind myself to not use wheel while i have a perishable joker

[acoustic kettle]

extinct! extinct! extinct!

[pale wolf]

still increases sell value

[sharp seal]

im rolling so hard for either a showman or invis right now, before I see burglar which I must take

[acoustic kettle]

Imagine though having multiple michelles just for all of them to extinct at the same time

[sharp seal]

also like, dna lowkey keeping my alive atm, it adds 4 cards to hand so basically +4 hand size

[cloud sinew]

it's effectively +3 if you dont win on the hand you copy DNA

[sharp seal]

true

[white zodiac]

today I learned nothing 🆕

[west copper]

Worlds first shoot the moon enthusiast

[white zodiac]

will copied glass/lucky cards mimic the effects of the first played card on the second hand?

def not the first

[wintry ice]

uh

do i take rocket

[sharp seal]

ok, nan inf just became so much more achievable

[white zodiac]

scoring nowhere to be found 💔

[wintry ice]

i'm relying entirely on mars

[white zodiac]

crimson bean 👅

o

[frank crypt]

I love Weemaxxing

[wintry ice]

i overestimated my scoring

rip

that could have been solved by putting a justice on a 9

[night turret]

Now all I need is a oops all 6

[cloud sinew]

huh

if youre asking "is the RNG the same for the copied card" then no

[white zodiac]

so like for DNA if I copied a glass card and the first glass breaks, will the second and future copied glass break and vice versa

asking bc had a run where I copied a glass 5 six times and they all shattered

[sharp seal]

Another one?!

[cloud sinew]

theyre independent events, so if the first one breaks the second one just has a 1/4 to break.

[white zodiac]

ok cool

I just had a weird rare event

[alpine nest]

Wooo

[sharp seal]

problem is, I have only 7 hand size, and I forgot what I scored last with a good hand

so Im afraid having the invis joker will kill me

I might need to take bean

well, the spot invis would make a new one for would be bad either way, cuz I need that spot for burglar

[lean spade]

the dreem teem

[wintry ice]

worth lmao

[west copper]

Bro

This might be peak ragebait

[cosmic hearth]

What are some good QoL mods man

[south rain]

how are these people so stupid

[west copper]

It’s obviously ragebait lol

[wintry ice]

jokerdisplay

handy

[west copper]

But it’s pretty damn good

[sharp seal]

would be such a waste to kill macho joker guy 😔

[cosmic hearth]

Oh ight

[still scroll]

not even a rage bait just attention bait

[wintry ice]

oh cool riffraff got foiled

[frank crypt]

WELCOME ABOARD THE WEE EXPRESS. NEXT STOP, ALPHA CENTAURI

[cosmic hearth]

Is there one where i can js swipe to select cards

[lean spade]

not even bait just a joke

[west copper]

Guys the joke is he has luchador but he doesn’t even NEED luchador to win against that boss blind

[still scroll]

yes

[west copper]

No matter what he does he wins

[still scroll]

i use that

[cosmic hearth]

What mod

[west copper]

So him asking is a joke

[still scroll]

handy

[cosmic hearth]

I NEED TAHT

[cosmic hearth]

Ight

Thx

So joker display and handy

Js to be sure multiplayer is mod right not like vanilla where u hve to do shits to unlock it

[random ice]

Lucky farming

[west copper]

What’s that one qol mod that lets u select multiple cards fast

[cosmic hearth]

Handy

[south rain]

handy

[west copper]

Thanks

That one is a mod I actually want lol

Would help for my straight builds to go a lot faster then manual selection

[random ice]

Fun run

[nocturne lotus]

Green joker is the best joker

[ocean lily]

if it was eternal insted of rental it would be so much more cash mony

[tame cobalt]

Fuck nebula, spent way too long goldstaking this one

Got 5 jokers gold stickers though at least

[sharp seal]

ugh, almost lost, just rolled 600 gold to find bean

[white forge]

Ain’t no way

[sharp seal]

that's crazy

[sharp seal]

Im reaching the end of my run, but I just can't find the reroll boss voucher

well I have the first one, just need the infite reroll one

[stark karma]

goldened some decent jokers

double ecto was def ballsy

[white forge]

Showman clutch

Invisible just dies

[sharp seal]

fuck man, lost on ante 24

just couldn't find that damn reroll voucher

[languid pecan]

wtf

[sharp seal]

I rolled 1k gold lookin for smth better than dna

no bean

[languid pecan]

I could swear that's not how invisible joker works

Does it only go over the joker slots if it's negative?

[sharp seal]

it is, cuz he had a full joker setup

[sharp seal]

yeah

[languid pecan]

That's so weird

[sharp seal]

I mean the invis joker literally says "copy does not keep negative"

[languid pecan]

That's not what I'm talking about

If you find a nat negative invisible joker you can go over the joker slots

I think I get it tho

[wintry ice]

do i sell gift card for oops

space joker value sounds fun

[heady narwhal]

i thought i remembered using invis on typecast after a4

[mild scaffold]

stickering 5 jokers again!!! this time with stone joker!!!

the rarest joker of them all

[heady narwhal]

what is temperance at w/o giftcard

[wintry ice]

25

27 after buying 6s

[heady narwhal]

i mean that's not bad i guess

[mild scaffold]

beyond space and timeee

hell yeah

[heady narwhal]

especially since you have econ from cloud 9 as well

[languid pecan]

What's your levels at

[mild scaffold]

pretty good

[heady narwhal]

this is my favorite joker setup

[languid pecan]

If you have the scoring id sell blue joker personally

[wintry ice]

5

i think i could affoard to yea

[languid pecan]

It'll quickly outpace blue joker you just need spaceman oops to lock in

[twin lantern]

hi chat

[languid pecan]

Then you keep that massive temperance value

Ello

[twin lantern]

[unreal iron]

imagine not having c++

couldnt be me

[languid pecan]

Does the c++ in your name mean you have c++ and are going for a second one or you are 34/150 of the way for c++

[somber charm]

All these jokers and nothing to use them on

[unreal iron]

i think the counter is how many jokers you need for c++

if you do actually have c++ without a counter that means you did it

[languid pecan]

Only +20 mult for ante 4

Round 3

Wtf

[unreal iron]

thats how i think of it

[long oxide]

What a run

[unreal iron]

stop skipping!!1!!1!1

[mild scaffold]

i cracked up with the raised fist ngl

[long oxide]

With a massive wee

[mild scaffold]

mime carried me

[long oxide]

U don't have a massive wee

[swift dew]

No didn't find it

[languid pecan]

Why are you full skipping

[wintry ice]

bye oops i guess

lmao

[languid pecan]

How much value did it give

[twin lantern]

Im 34/150 of the way

Sorry for late response

[languid pecan]

Did it give a couple levels atleast

Also your econ is crazy

[somber charm]

I was bored and only had 2 minutes before my lunch ended

[unreal iron]

3 levels to straight flush right now!!!

[somber charm]

No

[languid pecan]

Honestly fair enough

[wintry ice]

i forgot that midas was abandoned deck's only weakness

[somber charm]

Also I had flush houses

[wintry ice]

i'm doopid

[languid pecan]

Maybe you'll find nat negative pareidolia

[twin lantern]

[wintry ice]

oh well i got a duo so i can sell it now

[wintry ice]

winner

super winner

[manic trail]

Nice

[wintry ice]

i'm selling supernova because it'd be funnier to do so

[cosmic hearth]

what does saturn do

[mild scaffold]

spins around the sun behind mars

[cosmic hearth]

bro im talking abt the mod or sum

[manic trail]

#⚙・modding-general write it there

[random ice]

This is a WEIRD run

[stark karma]

mr bones the goat bruh

[random ice]

This is a REALLY WEIRD RUN

[stark karma]

KZKZPZP5 negative dice seed, early dusk sock and photo

brainstorm ante 7

[twilit hedge]

Streamer luck

[white forge]

5 polychrome stencil on ante 6 gold stake

[twilit hedge]

GIMME A SECOND ECTO

Bye dice :3

[split ingot]

Beat the jokerless challenge

20/20 Challenges done, 74% progression (including black deck) done

[random ice]

OH MY GOD

[pale wolf]

ffs

[ocean lily]

i used a death thinking it was a strenght, then held r thinking it was alt f4 😭

[ocean lily]

sell mime for bs, trust, mime is a mime, but bs can be anything, even, a mime

[random ice]

This is ridiculous

[ocean lily]

should probably copy hologram if u want max score

[random ice]

I'm farming parking money

[ocean lily]

ah, fair

[split ingot]

He’s doing it for moner

Yeye

[twilit hedge]

I beat jokerless with a flush house build

[pale wolf]

you should be copying reserved parking in that case

direct 2x ev instead of 1.5x

[random ice]

Wait I thought mime was better to copy

[hasty harness]

thats what i was thinking

[random ice]

Huh

[hasty harness]

pretty sure parking is better

[pale wolf]

no, having another copy of parking is way better

[random ice]

In either case, seed is A188NYYM

[hazy ibex]

1 parking + 1 mime: 2 triggers
1 parking + 2 mime: 3 triggers
2 parking + 1 mime: 4 triggers

[prime sleet]

that's the most beautiful thing I've seen in a long time

[random ice]

If you ignore the Hologram, this is probably endless potential

[pale wolf]

mime isnt a straight 2x to parking EV

it doesn't double every parking hit

and it does not give you double the chances for parking hits

[hazy ibex]

True ig

My math isn’t matching

Mathing*

[pale wolf]

no you would be right if parking wasn't a probability

but mime only gives you a chance for a second proc if the first proc succeeded

[random ice]

That's why!

[pale wolf]

so it's more like a 1.5x than a 2X

[random ice]

I get it now

That's so stupid

[hazy ibex]

So more parking is better regardless

[pale wolf]

yea

[hazy ibex]

Because it’s 1/2 instead of 1/4

[hasty harness]

yeah because mime will only give you a chance at a 2nd trigger if parking trigger works

right

[prime sleet]

really?

[uncut slate]

wait i didn't know this

this is so goofy

[pale wolf]

yup

[prime sleet]

that's weird, I thought it was just another check

[random ice]

Can we appreciate how my entire roster is endless jokers lmao

Except holo

[pale wolf]

its the only chance based held in hand effect so I'm guessing it's likely more of an oversight than an intended behavior

[uncut slate]

personally i like endful jokers

[pale wolf]

every other chance-based thing is on score, so each activation chance is guaranteed

[prime sleet]

you're one verdant away from crying

[hazy ibex]

Ig it doesn’t actually count the effect if it fails, so Mime won’t copy it?

[pale wolf]

yea nothing to retrigger if the trigger fails

[hazy ibex]

K, makes sense

[prime sleet]

yeah it does

[pale wolf]

which would be fine still, if it just guaranteed doubled every activation
but it reapplies the same 1 in 2

[latent egret]

⊞ + ⬆ + S