🕹・game-discussion

[cosmic sun]

already stickered goats though

[plush osprey]

i like cloud 9

[cursive lion]

well fed kitty

[white zodiac]

oh 😀

[nova mantle]

Pants and Holo my beloved

Cloud 9 is also nice

[pale wolf]

ok ok
joker that makes things discounted

[cosmic sun]

Flash not always but yeah this is definitely a good flash run

[plush osprey]

we have a few of those

[white zodiac]

so discount voucher into a joker

[cosmic sun]

82 flash 58 pants

[cloud sinew]

@pale wolf im gonna do a tierlist based on how good they are ante 1 first buffoon pack

[thorny garnet]

early swashbuckler + egg combo. this run is gonna be so perfectly mid

[burnt topaz]

Is red card hallucination a good enough combo to be worth itv

[cosmic sun]

yes

over one of your mult jokers

[white zodiac]

i remember the tier lists for the rares for a1

[pale wolf]

ok but one list for each deck

bc theyre different

[plush osprey]

burnt joker sweep

[cosmic sun]

I love ticket though

I had a cert that run so holo was fat and ticket was getting devils

[thorny garnet]

going through all the stakes again on phone is kind of a pain

[plush osprey]

unlock all bro

[thorny garnet]

no :(

[nova mantle]

Indeed he is

[pale wolf]

"I had a certificate that run so hologram was fat and ticket was getting devils"
sentences that would scramble a victorian childs brain

[nova mantle]

afaik that was the best score I've ever got

[thorny garnet]

i think it'd be really funny to get at the very least get c+ on my phone too

[minor portal]

the best score I got was 89 chips

[left vigil]

Not bad for a ride the bus rn for straights

[nova mantle]

I got 90 one time

[cosmic sun]

good.

[nova mantle]

I didn't got a screenshot tho you just gotta believe me

[pale wolf]

yea having to do 105 non-gold runs sucks for subsequent c+

[left vigil]

source: trust me bro

[plush osprey]

they should make an unlock some button

[tame cobalt]

Flavor wise why does hologram do what it does 🤔

[white zodiac]

prob the main reason why I'm doing black++ instead of c++x6

[balmy ridge]

sell rocket for rebate?? rocket payout is $5 rn

[left vigil]

I've already got naneinf and won every deck 3000 times on various stakes, I'm now going completionist

[tame cobalt]

Rocket is awesome

[cosmic sun]

you got room?

[pale wolf]

uuuuh
hologram means new picture so maybe adding cards are new pictures

[cosmic sun]

show run

[pale wolf]

hologram in fact means new message
duh

[plush osprey]

eh rocket is fine

[pale wolf]

gram is grammar

[left vigil]

w first draw

[white zodiac]

rebate can be 5 & more

[nova mantle]

The pair of 9's goes hard asf

[left vigil]

ummm

[nova mantle]

What challenge is that?

[pale wolf]

nice

rich get richer

[left vigil]

Apparently it's just give me everything for a retrigger run day

[frank light]

huge pull

[nova mantle]

Should've realized, in no other case do you get 100 dollars on ante 1 lmao

[left vigil]

Cuz I'm just that good

What is this seed

[burnt topaz]

I’ve been stacking my deck with jacks and 8s and taking ANY planet card that contains a 3oak, do I take dna on ante 6

[pale wolf]

does anybody understand what this joker means..? i cannot comprehend it !

[left vigil]

honest to god

[nova mantle]

Sell this joker to create a duplicate tag

[left vigil]

1.5x mult for every king held in hand

[white zodiac]

red card

[stiff fjord]

don't take it

it's green

[burnt topaz]

Do I take dna or not 🙁

[stiff fjord]

like the plant

[nova mantle]

What's your deck composition

Maybe you don't need DNA anymore

[nova mantle]

Yeah you need DNA in my humble opinion

[burnt topaz]

What do I sell then

Hallucination does seem to love giving me strength

[nova mantle]

But let the big dawgs give their opinion I haven't even got base C

[left vigil]

Hmmm

[stiff fjord]

i say get rid of sly(???) joker

[burnt topaz]

Sly is correct

[left vigil]

This dna would be good if my redseal was a king

[burnt topaz]

It’s just I have no other chips

[pale wolf]

mfw didnt have to use 2 hands
but couldnt have known

i keep losing white stake runs bc im so used to having 4 hands

[nova mantle]

The song by Kendrick lamar

[pale wolf]

lmfao

[burnt topaz]

Actually I have so many bonus cards who am I kidding

[left vigil]

Maybe the redseal jack is worth copying idk

I could use bloodstone to win this run

[cloud sinew]

very rough tierlist;
"how good they are ante 1 first buffoon pack"

[nova mantle]

You should go for bloodstone or something like that, you already got retriggers soo

[pale wolf]

half in the same tier as burnt is throwing me

you think its that big an indicator of success?

[burnt topaz]

Getting rid of my sly joker cut my average score from ≈45k to ≈27k

[pale wolf]

and not cert??

[cloud sinew]

practically guaranteed to win in one hand, otherwise basically guaranteed in two

[pale wolf]

is this for surviving early antes or long term prognosis

[nova mantle]

Obby licks is a low tier and that's all that matters ❤️‍🩹

[cloud sinew]

indicator of success. just based on this throwaway tierlist and the amount of thought ive put into it, i think half joker is a better indicator of success as the first joker of a run than cert is

[pale wolf]

hmm interesting

[cloud sinew]

cert is better if you survive, yes, but youre more likely to survive with half than cert imo

[white zodiac]

does this take into account any joker tags

yeah

[left vigil]

Speculative photograph?

[urban ember]

straight flush farm acquired on second ante

[pale wolf]

ice cream vs popcorn is interesting

[cloud sinew]

that should be reversed

[nova mantle]

Mf playing balatro on easy mode

[cloud sinew]

i didnt do the usual cross-examination between jokers

where i check if each joker deserves to be better than every joker ive placed it above

[nova mantle]

I once got four fingers and shortcut, the concept of an ace, a queen, a 10 and an 8 being considered a straight is mad funny to me

[pale wolf]

ok now i want this but assuming theyre eternal

😎

[urban ember]

right as you said that i rolled a free negative

[left vigil]

Polychrome red seal king

[pale wolf]

beautiful

[nova mantle]

You could sell business card if you don't need the money

[cloud sinew]

nuh uh

[pale wolf]

sad!

[nova mantle]

Obelisk tho 💔

[white zodiac]

making lilo work overtime

[pale wolf]

i do

[urban ember]

yeah. hey i'll take what i can get

[cloud sinew]

no you dont 🫳

[left vigil]

I did

[hasty harness]

died right after i won

gold stake down

🤑

[nova mantle]

Fair tho, all negatives are good negatives

Except madness on white stake

[cloud sinew]

🪩
🫴

graphic design is my passion

[urban ember]

what's the build with madness anyway

[left vigil]

Bean my beloved#

[nova mantle]

Get lucky so you get eternal jokers that are fairly good and then get madness

Free win from there

[pale wolf]

madness doesnt feel like sauce to me anymore

[cloud sinew]

or stuntman/andy, or vampire, or marble joker, or splash, or showman...

[simple jacinth]

why not?

[nova mantle]

Splash wouldn't seem harmful directly tho

[cloud sinew]

splash is harmful if you dont want to score those cards

[simple jacinth]

madness is like chilli sauce

[pale wolf]

for rtb and thats kinda it

[pale wolf]

oh and throwing glass without breaking

[plush osprey]

we need more jokers with downsides

[simple jacinth]

heats things up real good but really doesn't go everywhere and can actively make things worse

[nova mantle]

I can't think of a situation where you wouldn't want to score cards 😭 glass cards maybe?

[plush osprey]

evil joker: -4 mult

[cloud sinew]

also removing enhancements with vampire + drivers license

[cloud sinew]

ride the bus

also yes, glass cards.

[pale wolf]

I keep getting early gold stake madness into like, survival eternal misprint

[simple jacinth]

downsides careful limitations that influence but don't dominate your playstyle

[nova mantle]

Oh that's fair

[pale wolf]

And similar disfavorable forced options

[plush osprey]

splash is good with glass cards

[white zodiac]

overscoring while scaling with something like todd

[simple jacinth]

like runner, ride the bus, green, madness

[white zodiac]

but splash prevents you from using your hands as discards in this sense

[burnt topaz]

Predictions for score now, closest guess wins, (Red card +39, Constellation x1.7)

[vestal fern]

yo why is everyone pressuring ME and localthunk to release the new latro update✌️ ✌️ ✌️ ✌️ ✌️ 🥹

[cloud sinew]

i dont see overscoring as a true "downside" because thats you "being punished" for doing too well.

[plush osprey]

half the time i’m playing glass cards TO break them tbh

[pale wolf]

its def a downside for scaling

cmon lilo

[nova mantle]

150,000

[burnt topaz]

I like it

[left vigil]

Well thats not good

[cloud sinew]

it is, but i dont consider it a downside mentally. its just a constant unconscious loop going on in the back of my brain, it's not joker specific.

[white zodiac]

im just nitpicking

[nova mantle]

Do I win free robux if I'm the closest

[burnt topaz]

No

[simple jacinth]

call you a mummy quarantined in a pyramid the way that's scoring 2mil

[hasty harness]

guys im playing green deck for the first time in forever is green joker good or nah since u get more money from hands remaining so its really harmful to econ to scale

[pale wolf]

if Splash is the one adding it

[nova mantle]

:((

[plush osprey]

you have the whole ante to prepare

you got this

[pale wolf]

It's pretty good despite losing a potential couple bucks

[simple jacinth]

oh actually 2mil is way out, more like 700k?

[hasty harness]

well yeah but on green deck no interest and i have no econ atm

[cloud sinew]

time to lose my 2 green deck streak rq

[hasty harness]

since run just started

[plush osprey]

you get money from discards remaining bro

[hasty harness]

so not sure

[hasty harness]

oh yeah i forgor

💔

[burnt topaz]

You still lose

[hasty harness]

i havent played green deck in awhile

[zinc karma]

Todd or chad here?

[nova mantle]

I win ❤️‍🩹

[plush osprey]

chad probably

[pale wolf]

uuuuh red card

[zinc karma]

Already on 60

[pale wolf]

so nothing

[left vigil]

I got killed by the plant, annoying

[white zodiac]

pretty much

[cloud sinew]

green has been so fucking challenging, mentally. i played 4 runs and im now on a streak of 2 but ive had to spend so much more mental energy on early decisions than on any other deck besides black

[pale wolf]

nah its todd probably

[simple jacinth]

we plan ahead for this

[pale wolf]

green is pretty weird

balatro yoga

[cloud sinew]

at least its not plasma or erratic...

[pale wolf]

i like plasma

[hasty harness]

plasma is easy

[simple jacinth]

green is gnarly but interesting

[cloud sinew]

ill streak one of them next

[hasty harness]

i like plasma

[plush osprey]

green deck should be rebalanced

[cloud sinew]

not to streak at gold stake

[pale wolf]

plasma is a complete lack of thought the entire run thru

[white zodiac]

green makes pairs expensive and has some weird unspoken rules of econ management

[plush osprey]

it should be able to make interest

[white zodiac]

have fun streaking on it 💔

[vestal fern]

mf lost in rich get richer😭

[left vigil]

Found nothing for it, coulda used my money but then my chips would be down a lot, and it's an easy challenge it won't take long. Econ is soo good here. I needed to go anyway so this just gives me an excuse

[plush osprey]

and make normal money from hands and discards

[white zodiac]

it's better to leave it untouched

[plush osprey]

and have +1 joker slot

[cloud sinew]

plasma is probably the most challenging to streak imo if youre not 100% locked in each run, otherwise it's black because of how much your fundamentals need to be honed in which you only really get from experience

[pale wolf]

like I feel like the correct option is pretty obvious most of the time

[plush osprey]

and -1 hand

[nova mantle]

Plasma in white stake serves as to turn your brain off and play which ever you like

Any joker goes

Oh damn wasn't trying to @ you lmao

[burnt topaz]

Alright round 2, closest guess wins (+31, +45, x1.7)

[plush osprey]

i think plasma is nowhere close to black in terms of difficulty

[white zodiac]

I have a higher black deck win streak than plasma if it's anything absurd

[nova mantle]

Play the 3oak see how it goes

[white zodiac]

second worst isn't putting any cherries on it

[burnt topaz]

I realized my 4oak is better than 5oak

[plush osprey]

true

[cloud sinew]

for streaking at gold stake "if youre not 100% locked in each run", yes it is.

[white zodiac]

late game derails are so awful

[burnt topaz]

Level 6 compared to 2,

[left vigil]

flush is probably better, but probably aint doing much

[plush osprey]

not being locked in on black deck just means you’ll lose in ante 2

[nova mantle]

410000~

[left vigil]

Yeah

Oh well too bad

[white zodiac]

I have experience to say that it is through failed streak attempts

[plush osprey]

respect bro 👊🏻

[white zodiac]

better mentally to lose on a2 than a7/8

[burnt topaz]

ITS ALMOST THE EXACT SAME SCORE WTH

[foggy lintel]

wierd build but i rock with it ig

[left vigil]

I had polychrome red seal kings

[foggy lintel]

oh

💀 damn

[nova mantle]

Missing by like 100 chips wth

[white zodiac]

brooke got like a 8 black win streak or some bs

[burnt topaz]

Yeah

[urban ember]

dude this is so schizo 💀

[white zodiac]

now she don't talk here

[left vigil]

I played them to get 5oak value hopefully for enough with baseball card but no dice

[white zodiac]

:(

[cloud sinew]

i dont think you understand the difference that streaking makes; winning consistently on plasma is very difficult because you have to regularly pivot from chips->mult which you need to plan for from the VERY start of a run. black deck just requires you to be better at the same playstyle that matches with 90% of other decks. plasma is incredibly unique in how you're meant to play it, which can fuck you up if youre not planning for it all the time

[burnt topaz]

2 decks left to red stake, magic and zodiac

[foggy lintel]

😭 fuck is this?

[left vigil]

W straight flush

[cloud sinew]

plasma would definitely be the most mentally taxing to streak imo

[plush osprey]

yeah it has a worse learning curve but i think when played well it’s easier

[left vigil]

About as a straight as a gay pride rally

[nova mantle]

Since 8,7,6,4 count as a straight and 8,6,4,3 count as a flush you got a straight flush

Mad wicked actually

[foggy lintel]

a little confused tho how you die on a 10k score tho

[burnt topaz]

This is why I love those 3 jokers, my new favorite combo is what I call “Smeared Pot”

[foggy lintel]

i think if you have decent level by ante four it should be ok

[white zodiac]

made me uninstall

[urban ember]

oh whoops now that you mention it i put my flower pot in the wrong place

[pale wolf]

so how many plasma builds are there

[white zodiac]

u have to try it to believe it

[urban ember]

it's a 4 joker synergy

[cloud sinew]

a lot

[burnt topaz]

Didn’t even notice you had pot

[plush osprey]

yeah streaking plasma sounds like hell

[white zodiac]

more than the opportunities that show up

[pale wolf]

more than white stake blue deck??

[nova mantle]

Plasma is mad wicked for gold staking just ONCE, it was my second gold stake and it was hell

[left vigil]

I got bad draws as well and I had 3 hands because I actually took the (hieroglyph i think) to get down an ante to mitigate the damage but nah. Also my levels weren't that good, there were barely planet packs and I got one level of 5oak, the rest were just waste of money considering I had the kings. I did the best with what I had at the time for what I was going for, I don't really care for it, it's an easy challenge

[nova mantle]

Thankfully the next one was magic deck and that one was very comfy

[pale wolf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1379214645742796911/1384687650388316170/screen-20250617-200737.mp4?ex=68f0e19e&is=68ef901e&hm=cd263fa1387eec3b4c2996b6f408aabeccb7e937e6583ba5c8166734b420f356& my plasmoid gold sticker

[cloud sinew]

spent a minute figuring out what i should do;
take the hallucination, buy the pack. worst case i get nothing and i just sell it for $2 and buy the flash card
best case, i get something worth in the pack and i get a tarot

GROKER anyway

[pale wolf]

worst case was two eternal rentals

smh smh

[cloud sinew]

then i just wouldnt take a joker

[pale wolf]

AND DEVIL?

[cloud sinew]

and i would take flash card

[pale wolf]

dang

[nova mantle]

U could have easily gotten away with that egg gold sticker tho

[zinc karma]

Fucking full house

[cloud sinew]

okay so im gonna open the jumbo and then if i get a tarot im gonna take the other pack and then buy sly and death

I GOT A PAYOUT

also no decent card in pack

decent a1

[nova mantle]

Green joker and green deck

[balmy ridge]

if i get 1 more eternal egg....

[plush osprey]

mr bones

goated

🐐

[tranquil cargo]

how often do you even take a non-eternal egg?

[cloud sinew]

fuck

[cloud sinew]

almost always if i have a free slot

[plush osprey]

very often

[floral mural]

egg is a slot filler you dump if you need the slot nothing wrong with that

[plush osprey]

get midas and pray for vampires

[floral mural]

temperance

[cloud sinew]

nah i skipped

[floral mural]

still kinda hesitant on eternal eggs tho

personally

[plush osprey]

eternal egg

is fine

i’m taking it ante 1 buffoon pack

[eternal anchor]

Just when I entertain the idea of putting a sticker on Séance I get photochad

[lean spade]

oh i didnt realise todolists could have two different requirements

[cloud sinew]

yeah

theyre independent

[urban ember]

i am proud to say that i didn't gain enough traction and lost the run

[willow frost]

would be annoying if they were both on straight flush every two rounds

[nova mantle]

Once the game rewarded my loyalty to eternal egg with an eternal swash

[cloud sinew]

didnt lose a level of pair against arm <3

RAHHHH green joker burnt

$1 for 15 chips

[urban ember]

my brain is permanently rotted even though i only spent 15 minutes on that run, i see basically any hand now and i think "that's a straight flush"

[tropic umbra]

shortcut?

[nova mantle]

That always happens after a shortcut/smeared run

[urban ember]

shortcut smeared 4 fingers

[tropic umbra]

ah

[cloud sinew]

pffffffffffft

[cloud sinew]

:(

[tropic umbra]

i love shortcut on checkered

[nova mantle]

I be clicking 2 spades and 3 clubs and going "why isn't that a flush??"

[tropic umbra]

the only ever reliable neptune build

[urban ember]

will two double tags do what i think it'll do?

[nova mantle]

Sell everything bruh 😭 I promise it'll be worth it

[balmy ridge]

errm i just unlocked antimatter voucher but i still get the blank voucher in the shop? am i missing something?

[cloud sinew]

nuh uh

[tropic umbra]

i have lost the ability to play on other decks with other suits

[nova mantle]

Yuh uh

[urban ember]

3 copies or 4 copies

[cloud sinew]

i have too much on the line

[nova mantle]

Lucky cat is always worth it

[crimson oasis]

u need to get the blank voucher and then u can get it in the shop

[balmy ridge]

oh so like buy the blank voucher now

and it might appear later in the run?

[crimson oasis]

yes

[balmy ridge]

gotcha thanks

cool omori pfp btw

[crimson oasis]

tyy

[nova mantle]

Unlike obelisk

[crimson oasis]

obelisk supremacy

[nova mantle]

For every run you first gotta buy blank voucher so antimatter can appear after

[nova mantle]

Obby licks is NOT all that bro 💔

[cloud sinew]

ive had too many close calls this run

[eternal anchor]

Typically you might find Blank early in the run and then you won't find Antimatter until past ante 8

[balmy ridge]

is there any world where i take ankh here? or would that be stupid

rebate and photograph are eternal so i could sell smiley + sock to copy stone

[cloud sinew]

AAAAH

:(

pb of 2

[sly coral]

pb of what

[balmy ridge]

unlucky

[balmy ridge]

anyone? yes or no

[cloud sinew]

green deck gold stake streak

[cloud sinew]

stupid

[thick haven]

Dont

[balmy ridge]

k

[balmy ridge]

no need to be rude about it

[white zodiac]

it'll grow back

[cloud sinew]

you asked if it would be stupid

[sly coral]

i almost got a green deck naneinf today bro but i didnt get a single cryptid w 10 spectral card blocked i hate green deck now

ty for listening to my rant

bye

[white zodiac]

stupid

[dim granite]

game proceeded to crash

[cloud sinew]

#⚙・modding-general be damned

[slender nebula]

math ain't mathing

[eternal anchor]

THREE CHIPS OFF WHAT

[cloud sinew]

36,000

[vocal rose]

glass

[white zodiac]

uh

should've thought more than 2 sec

[vocal rose]

high card photochad 😭

[white zodiac]

never in my wild eyes

[cloud sinew]

even if you were dead this round, you couldve set up loyalty this ante knowing that needle would probably kill you.

unless you just got it

[eternal anchor]

I got it from the very first shop with a poly tag

also this is OP right now so I'm good

[shell dagger]

Play the lucky first

[eternal anchor]

nah

[shell dagger]

Why not

[white zodiac]

suboptimal farming

[shell dagger]

Spend a dollar for 4 dollarZ EV

Roughly

[vocal rose]

🤦🏽‍♀️

[eternal anchor]

it wouldn't have given me any money anyway because I still saw +0 in the corner

[white zodiac]

😐

[terse vale]

what

does the mod you have say the probabilities of the lucky hitting or something

[eternal anchor]

it does indeed

lol

[cloud sinew]

i dont think i would ever want to use this then

[white zodiac]

that's kinda lame

[willow frost]

this is no longer a qol mod, this just tells you exactly whats going to happen

[terse vale]

[white zodiac]

savescumming simplified

[smoky frost]

so i was going for naninf and i got -nan, is this supposed to happen?

[cloud sinew]

if it showed you the expected value & the lower and upper bound then it'd be fine, that's just showing you what balatro calculator can show you
but this shows you the actual outcome of RNG you couldnt find out without savescumming

[shell dagger]

You don’t know what the other luckies could’ve given you later on in the ante

Best to still play them to progress the hidden sequence or however it works

[willow frost]

thats true, if you dont play one now you just get stuck never playing one

[steady raven]

Should I sell the Hanging Chad?

[white zodiac]

yeah the outcomes of luck/probability based activations are in a queue for the seed you're playing

[shell dagger]

Sell a photo

[tall sky]

page 2 of gold stickers done

we're getting there

[cloud sinew]

i thought it was ante based as well

[sly coral]

it is

[white zodiac]

it could be

outside of shops

[eternal anchor]

already won 🙃

[cloud sinew]

the cards that are going to be drawn are ante based and not round based, for example.
source: play a seed where you select the first blind, then skip and select the 2nd blind; you draw the same cards.

[sly coral]

everything is separated into ante's in the game

[cloud sinew]

not true

invisible joker isnt ante based

[white zodiac]

this one I know from watching an old doc vid

[steady raven]

But what if the invisible copies the other photo?

[cloud sinew]

then you didnt lose anything

[sly coral]

based on the ante u buy it

[cloud sinew]

that isnt true either

[pale wolf]

oop

[cursive lion]

YES it took several tries but now i got this unlocking merry andy and wee joker run in the bag

[pale wolf]

howd it go

[white zodiac]

it's under a queue

[balmy ridge]

uhh i just unlocked orange stake, can jokers be perishable AND eternal?

okty

[pale wolf]

hands arent separates into antes

[slender creek]

what if walkie talkie scored for 6 and 7 that would be funny

[steady raven]

K, I'll do it

[cloud sinew]

invisible joker is based on your joker array, it has nothing to do with when you take it and only to do with which jokers you have and how many you have

[balmy ridge]

how do you get it to show the values below the jokers? is that a mod?

[cursive lion]

yes

[pale wolf]

rental sticker is in a different place on the card than perishable/eternal

[valid abyss]

i HATE purple stake

[sly coral]

ohhh oki

[valid abyss]

with a PASSION

[sly coral]

ty

[cursive lion]

jokerdisplay by @fleet zephyr

[balmy ridge]

aw man im on the xbox version so i cant get mods 🥀

[white zodiac]

thank god

[cursive lion]

fucked up world we live in

i feel like jeb! rn

[sly coral]

whats the highest wee yall ever got

[eternal anchor]

992

one trigger away from 1k :(

[sly coral]

hm nice

[steady raven]

Should Blueprint copy the Hanging Chad or the Baron?

[deep rapids]

ive gotten like 1.6k

[quick wyvern]

I had a great face card build going

Scary face, blueprint, hanging chad, photograph, and a x5 throwback

But then I sold scary face thinking I could get a better chip joker and it just went downhill

[vestal fern]

when you're lowk winning a run but you get hit with "No repeat hands" and get slimed out so you are reborn as the khaby lame mechanism

[quick wyvern]

Hanging chad— triggers a card five times in total

[steady raven]

K

[vestal fern]

i found a better quality version

[quick wyvern]

That’s a x128 to your base mult with photograph

[vestal fern]

Baron

[quick wyvern]

Play the jack

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[serene forge]

I feel like the fact you had a 5x throwback was not helping

[quick wyvern]

Wdym

[serene forge]

skipping that much is often self detrimental

[quick wyvern]

It worked out fine, I was able to get to 200k with one face card

At least until I sold the scary face

What would you have suggested? (Not sarcasm, asking for advice)

[mild scaffold]

Question

[tall sky]

idol and burnt joker down, im getting there

[mild scaffold]

Can you win a balatro run twice?

If I take hyrogliph

The -1 ante voucher

[tall sky]

nah

[mild scaffold]

Can it win twice

Ah bs

[final garden]

anti deck fixing

[tall sky]

you'd just play ante 8 twice

[white topaz]

Guess I'm playing straights

[mild scaffold]

Good run anyway

I stickered Gros Michel, mad joker, flower pot, and smeared joker

Flower pot smeared joker was ultra cracked

[supple yarrow]

i remember having a run where i got 3 natural negatives ante 3 after bying overstock and rerolling once, 3 on same page

[mild scaffold]

Specially with two pair

Loved this run

[hidden lance]

if im playing a red seal flush five with sock at how many cards is it worth to copy it over photo

[brazen dome]

whats the best deck to complete all stakes with?

[vocal rose]

the easiest? for a beginner probably checkered

[brazen dome]

which one is that again

[supple yarrow]

oh ive been doing red deck because i always discard a ton

[vocal rose]

the checkered deck

[vestal fern]

one of my friends came out as transfem do i tell them to get C++ in balatro

[brazen dome]

i meant what it does

[vocal rose]

makes your deck checkered

[brazen dome]

that doesnt really

ok

[supple yarrow]

so only 2 suits?

[vocal rose]

perchance

[mild scaffold]

Checkered / magic deck

[uncut slate]

percraps.

[mild scaffold]

Magic deck requires a lot of holding R tho, so if it's not your deal, go checkered

[brazen dome]

r?

[uncut slate]

what are you holding r for on magic

[mild scaffold]

Holding R automatically restarts the run

[mortal summit]

Checkered is the easiest imo

[brazen dome]

oh

ok lmao

[mild scaffold]

Starting with charm tag and then hermit

[uncut slate]

first tried pretty much the whole way through magic

[mortal summit]

Yellow and blue are also very easy

[supple yarrow]

how did i even get past black stake on red deck

[uncut slate]

brazy strat

i would usually just fool the first mercury i found

and then get back to my regularly scheduled pair spam

[supple yarrow]

oh yeah why is pair apparently busted

[mild scaffold]

Allows me to be very flexible

[supple yarrow]

theres no good jokers that go with it#

[mild scaffold]

Name a bad joker that goes with pair and we can probably explain why they're good

[uncut slate]

most of the jokers are good with pair

[mild scaffold]

Pairs are just very strong and consistent

[supple yarrow]

the one that gives +80 chips

[uncut slate]

very flexible in that you can only play like 0.5% of seeds apparently

[amber vigil]

Thats 80 chips right there brotati

Brotato*

[pale grotto]

Runner is good?

[amber vigil]

gets you through early game

[mild scaffold]

I can choose my build very early on

[brazen dome]

idk why but i get so many lucky starts on ghost deck

[mild scaffold]

Yeah it is

[amber vigil]

Its decent, i like it a lot personally

[brazen dome]

hex and whatever duplicates card but then i get 0 good jokers for the first 20 rerolls

[supple yarrow]

thats the same reason i play flush, alot of good flush jokers

[uncut slate]

not really

[supple yarrow]

more than pair

[uncut slate]

there are a handful of decent flush jokers but most jokers suck with flushes

[amber vigil]

Like, not even close to true

[supple yarrow]

name a good pair joker

[uncut slate]

what am i gonna do with square joker if i play flushes

[pale grotto]

Its there a joker that i can ask if he is good and in reality it isnt?

[uncut slate]

most of them ngl

[mild scaffold]

Most likely

[balmy ridge]

?av @pale grotto

[sturdy creek]

josetxo\_\_\_09351

Server Avatar

[balmy ridge]

haha

nice

[supple yarrow]

i dont know any pair jokers u gotta name them

[amber vigil]

Card sharp, green joker, constellation, supernova

[brazen dome]

i think im gonna do this run now

[mild scaffold]

I took an eternal troubadour

Time for fun

[uncut slate]

card sharp, the bus, square, whatever else you like

[supple yarrow]

i can see all of those excpt green being good

isnt green just like... +8 mult

[uncut slate]

name any joker and it's probably good with pairs

[supple yarrow]

family

[pale grotto]

Green is +1 per hand played -1 per discart

[uncut slate]

green is easily 30+ mult by the end of a pair run

[uncut slate]

a very rare exception and honestly a pretty bad joker

[supple yarrow]

true

[mild scaffold]

Four fingers

[amber vigil]

Green is +1 mult when playing a hand and -1 mult when discarding, its easy to not discard when playing pairs

Uh burnt is really good too

With pairs

So is vagabond

[pale grotto]

Burnt is the goat with pairs

[supple yarrow]

ill test this yall help me with the build if u want, im gonna use blue deck pair build

[pale grotto]

I won orange stake abandoned deck with pairs

Really good hand

[amber vigil]

Look, dont go into a run looking for a build with a certain hand. If you find like 2 hanged man by ante two and some saturns straight will be better. Just an example ofc. Pairs are considered best because of low risk and you can get so many jokers helping it

Just work with what the game gives you

A “pair” build needs something to help it start scaling early

Like a blue seal or a early to mid game joker

[uncut slate]

if you go into a run looking for pairs it's honestly fine

[supple yarrow]

lol sly joker

[uncut slate]

that's good

[supple yarrow]

i mean ill take it

[oblique matrix]

Is DNA worth it? (Pair is level 31)

[stuck blade]

nat negative oops on bloodstone run 🤔

[supple yarrow]

and supernova

what

[amber vigil]

Done deal

See?

[uncut slate]

you actually win

pair supernova is a w

[amber vigil]

Save money till interest cap and then try to invest in packs to get a blue seal

Pair is also so good because deck bloat cant really hurt it much

[supple yarrow]

kk

[oblique matrix]

I lied, pair is level 24

[amber vigil]

What do you plan to copy with dna?

[simple bronze]

this is ggs right?

[oblique matrix]

Foil queens

[pale grotto]

Its cinema

[amber vigil]

I mean if your aim is just ante 8 then i think that chicot is more valuable?

[oblique matrix]

Yeah you probably right on this one chief

[supple yarrow]

ok so i found green boi

too

[oblique matrix]

I planned on selling burnt

[amber vigil]

Now just look for a way to get lotsa only good sell option tbh

Chigoat will make final blind a pushover

[tranquil steppe]

Kill the smiley

[uncut slate]

dna doesn't even literally even do anything

[amber vigil]

The intimidating and harmful eternal tag:

[stuck blade]

oh boy oh boy
idol and brainstorm on ante 9

[amber vigil]

Also true, but maybe a few levels lost on pairs is worth it to make the deck a lil more consistent. Chigoat honestly removes all need for strategy apart from the small chance that you might just miss the draw

Idk

[simple bronze]

mannn

[amber vigil]

Depends on what his current pairs are scoring

[amber vigil]

Deep endless push time

[amber vigil]

Sadge

[rough prairie]

Why not brainstorm the Sock?

[stuck blade]

i did that on the round

[amber vigil]

Well idol is more score, but having more triggers on lucky cards is probably good as he might be scoring well above ante 9 requirements

For money

[rough prairie]

Wait, does idol only trigger on the first score?

[supple yarrow]

ive got 4 pair jokers but im having no luck on any seals at all let alone blue

[amber vigil]

No?

[amber vigil]

Then just get planets normally

From packs

[rough prairie]

Why is it more score if you brainstorm the idol over the retrigger in that case?

[minor portal]

idol only works once per ante actually

[stuck blade]

the money hits go crazy

[amber vigil]

Or just get a decent chip joker

[minor portal]

it blows up afterwards

[amber vigil]

Exactly

[supple yarrow]

ye thats what im doing now

ooo i just got telescope too#

peak

OOO half joker

[amber vigil]

Half joker is decent buts falls flat later on

[supple yarrow]

i mean its good for my 5th slot for now till i find something better

[dry ether]

that is a lot of eris cards

[supple yarrow]

well i just found my replacement

[amber vigil]

How did you get so many negatives?

[river kindle]

took me 3 days to get to this

[amber vigil]

How

[uncut slate]

so one weird thing about pairs is that you kind of want to win slower

[stuck blade]

i cant replace bloodstone yet cause im still not fully done with my deck

[amber vigil]

To scale better

[supple yarrow]

ooo i got needle, that was scary

[stuck blade]

so one of the socks has to go

[uncut slate]

if you play 5 pairs every round to scale supernova you will win slower than playing with the half joker

[amber vigil]

Was the oops naturally negative?

[uncut slate]

but it's more pairs

[stuck blade]

yeah

[amber vigil]

Damn

God blessed pivot to idol

[amber vigil]

After deck fixing you will hunt for dusk i assume?

@stuck blade

[stuck blade]

anything that works really

[amber vigil]

Im very curious to how this was done

[stuck blade]

kinda sad i found baron mime in the same seed

[balmy ridge]

anyone know what's most effective to copy with brainstorm? deck is currently somewhat fixed with queens

[supple yarrow]

question

is showman worth it

[amber vigil]

I mean its kinda between dusk and showman into sock after you have no use for bloodstone i think

[balmy ridge]

sometimes but i guess its situational

[stuck blade]

for getting multiple blueprints / brainstorm

[balmy ridge]

like u can get a second blueprint brainstorm

[stuck blade]

its very rare

only for specific seeds

[amber vigil]

Not for pairs i dont think? Its for long runs, not for regular ones

[rough prairie]

The annoying part of Showman is having a slot you can sacrifice for it

[river slate]

the mega photochad

[supple yarrow]

wouldve taken it if it was earlier, maybe right after blueprint but im alr ante 6 so yeah

[stuck blade]

the annoying part is not getting the joker u need

[uncut slate]

obviously the buckler my goat

[rough prairie]

Oh yeah, I guess it's also gonna bloat the shop

[amber vigil]

Depends on base mult right?

[stuck blade]

i should start getting glass real

[left juniper]

Technically I know it doesn't matter but Smiley should be far left for max score 😬

[amber vigil]

True

[uncut slate]

i mean if it bloats the shop with a joker you already think is good enough to have in your lineup...

[balmy ridge]

really? would have been the last thing i'd expect lol

[supple yarrow]

ooo wait i got a blue seal

[rough prairie]

Another showman! 😄

[river slate]

you're right tho

[supple yarrow]

i can start grinding up green a bit looking for it

[uncut slate]

another thing is that you can play 3 junk cards with a pair

[mild scaffold]

So people

[uncut slate]

to dig through your deck without discarding

[supple yarrow]

i win in like 1.5 hands rn so not rlly

[amber vigil]

w

[mild scaffold]

What is your favorite joker combo?

[uncut slate]

you'll win slower if you're not proccing halfsies

[left juniper]

Swash, Egg and Gift Card. The question was favourite not good so I don't need to defend it 😎

[amber vigil]

Red Card, Rocket

[supple yarrow]

whats that?

1 sec i got ecto lemme see what it hits

jolly, its whatever tho

ill put blue joker in the new 6th slot

[hallow vale]

Damn

Gotta copy trade

Only way

[river kindle]

this is how to level up fast

[cosmic sun]

😴

[uncut slate]

half joker

[pale grotto]

Starts with photo and ends with chad

[vestal fern]

did someone already make a "balatrify" TikTok account

[left juniper]

brb making it now

[vestal fern]

"who is this niche joker who beat Violet Vesseeeeel??? this joker's name is Hit the Road and gains XMult when a Jack is discardeeeeeed!!! he's notorious for being a really good joker that can win gold stakeeeee!!"

[river slate]

wow one hit on like 15 triggers on bloodstone

[mild scaffold]

I had a revelation

Seeing double + pairs

It's so simple now...

[supple yarrow]

lol fortune teller is better than half rn

so i have fortune teller now

[amber vigil]

Why does it trail each word.

[pale grotto]

Why erosion is so good like how, It shouldnt be so goated

[amber vigil]

What is your favourite joker combo?

[amber vigil]

True

[uncut slate]

i find it kind of inconsistent to dig for clubs just for 2x but it's a heck of a lot better than not having it

[amber vigil]

Finding hanged man while having erosion heals my heart

[uncut slate]

is just averages to like 1.5 for me usually

[pale grotto]

Immolation

🔥

[amber vigil]

Rarer but true

[uncut slate]

yeah it rewards doing something you already wanted to do anyway

[amber vigil]

Instant gratification

[amber vigil]

Its not even that, its just the AMOUNT of mult is insane

[mild scaffold]

Mmmmm...

Personally, my favorite joker combo ever has been smeared joker and ancient joker

Things like green squares or trouser squares, or even photochad haven't grown so much on me as this joker pair

[amber vigil]

I dont remember exactly but its 4 right?

[mild scaffold]

It feels very satisfying

[vestal fern]

niche accent

[amber vigil]

Actually insane

[pale grotto]

It was +8 per card below?

[stuck blade]

took antimatter and also a second ecto

[vestal fern]

why is your bloodstone small dude

[amber vigil]

Fun, ancient joker is fun in general but with smeared joker its even better

[stuck blade]

mid anim

oh shit

[amber vigil]

Found dusk too it seems

[vestal fern]

weestone

[stuck blade]

there goes chad

[amber vigil]

LESSGO

[mild scaffold]

Wee stone

X10 xmult if you have splash

[pale grotto]

Poor chad

[sudden river]

egg

[pale grotto]

Feels wrong stop it please

[amber vigil]

Baldprint and skullstorm

[supple yarrow]

rip lost on ante 10 small blind

[pale grotto]

We have a cat joker but where is the dog joker

[sudden river]

lucky cat vs. funny dog

[pale grotto]

Skullstorm????
Inscryption???????

[dry ether]

beautiful

[sudden river]

avenged 3½ fold

[amber vigil]

Ehat would be the effects of funny dog?😭

[sudden river]

butter dog, dog with the butter

[supple yarrow]

whats the best deck for me to unlock plasma (beat orange stake i think)

[sudden river]

honestly if you beat purple stake then any deck except black deck

[pale grotto]

Joker with something to do with the lovers kind of card

Idk

[supple yarrow]

ive only ever beaten up to black stake

[royal ore]

hold on wait

[supple yarrow]

and it was on stream on red deck

[royal ore]

illusion would go crazy here

[stuck blade]

invis hit sock 🔥

[sudden river]

ghost deck is fun even if it's not the easiest. Easiest would be yellow or blue, same goes for gold stake

[royal ore]

is the sock okay

[stuck blade]

we are cooking

[supple yarrow]

btw why do yall have C in ur name

[tender quarry]

I'd say ghost is the easiest to climb to orange with

[sudden river]

achievement%

[supple yarrow]

eh

[tender quarry]

Blue and Yellow are stronger decks when optimised but as an unoptimised deck ghost is very strong

[prisma oxide]

How do I stop photochad dependency? 😔

[tender quarry]

That is, it's easier for a newer player to win on them

[uncut slate]

trouser square is a bit overrated because uranus is already pretty strong

[stuck blade]

deck is almost done

[uncut slate]

just don't buy it

[stuck blade]

of course you dont hit kings

why would you ever hit kings

[supple yarrow]

what does that have to do with C

im so confused

[sudden river]

still very luck based and you can't just spam bad spectral cards (or good with drawbacks like ecto) without knowing what they do yet

[amber vigil]

Man i struggle so hard to get gold stake runs off the first ante. It feels like I cant find anything. Whats a good win percentage for gold stake to be an experienced player yall think?

[tender quarry]

But that's kind of what you want as a newer player

[sudden river]

C: Completionist (discover and unlock every joker, consumable, and voucher)
C+: Completionist+ (win every deck on gold stake)
C++: Completionist++ (get a gold stake sticker on every joker)

[supple yarrow]

crazy

anyways ima actually try ghost as i do understand the spectral cards

[sudden river]

if it makes you feel any better, the first few antes are harder than the last few of 8. After a bit if you've survived long enough then you're capable of going forward

it's mostly money in the early game tho

and chips

[supple yarrow]

ok so im playing pairs or 3 of a kind i guess, hi half joker

ok 100% a pairs run

got jolly

[abstract rivet]

Holy, nat neg cavendish

[stuck blade]

okay bro

[supple yarrow]

rip

[amber vigil]

Typa draws i get as soon as i pickup 8 ball

This is base abandoned deck btw

[brazen dome]

boss ante finna say ''you cannot play cards'' the second you doing good

[lean wadi]

Is there ever any plans for more friends of jimbo packs?

[river slate]

it was fun

o7

[serene forge]

I hate Baron

[royal ore]

lmaoooo

saved by mr bones

[eternal anchor]

pelon

[supple yarrow]

im like barely hanging on in ante 6

idk if im gonna beat it

[stuck blade]

i got a decent amt of glass

[magic stump]

https://discord.gg/n5aqVE5d tiren paroo

i created my server do you can enter in the server?

[lone halo]

Been playing this game slowly since january, finally working my way through abandoned deck and it's the most fun I've had with balatro so far. I haven't lost a game from white stake to orange yet

[still frost]

Abandoned is pretty solid

Makes all of the fun hands realistic lol

[lone halo]

Makes so many hand types possible. Straights are a blast with abandoned

[prisma oxide]

Eternal half joker 😭

[supple yarrow]

half joker is peak tho

[eternal anchor]

and it's foil

[simple bronze]

blue joker is a good chip scaling joker right?

[unborn cliff]

its fine early

[brazen dome]

jesus christ

[simple bronze]

but it synergizes with stone joker

[brazen dome]

highcard clears ante 8 boss

[unborn cliff]

"who got crucified and came back after 3 days"

[vocal rose]

marble joker synergizes with stone joker

[brazen dome]

amen

[vocal rose]

+2 chips vs +25 chips

[eternal anchor]

oh yeah it scales... down

but also not really

[brazen dome]

yey

[simple bronze]

yes it is

[brazen dome]

black deck done

[simple bronze]

the more cards you have the more chips you have

it scales well with shoot the moon once you start adding more queens

[brazen dome]

man

negative popcorn

[prisma oxide]

Castle scales well with smeared joker

[simple bronze]

yeah but you have to waste your discards

blue scales without having to do that

[supple yarrow]

anyways cool, barely completed white stake ghost deck because i got like no spectrals till endless

[unborn cliff]

the amount of shit in the toilet bowl scales well with eating

[amber vigil]

Another gold stake run clutched up by my goat baseball card

Holy shit

[prisma oxide]

Why people like to have great econ when the best joker (vagabond) requires you to be poor?

[unborn cliff]

so theres this thing called money that can be exchanged for goods and services (shop)

[amber vigil]

Because going from great to poor econ is easy but the opposite is hard

[prisma oxide]

I've done 4 gold stakes, i believe the only time i had a good econ were when i built around boots and bull at the same time 😔

[shell dagger]

Vagabond is a rare

It’s also not “the best joker”

And even if you anticipate vagabond you shouldn’t stay below interest

[unborn cliff]

everyone knows the best joker is bloodstone right

[prisma oxide]

Vagabond carried my last run 😔

[shell dagger]

I see a blue seal and cavendish

[amber vigil]

I mean vagabond can get license up and running in record time i can tell you that

[shell dagger]

It’s good don’t get me wrong

[prisma oxide]

Blue seal came from the perishable certificate i got in round 1

[amber vigil]

But the run definitely has other decent running parts like @shell dagger said

Blue seals are really good

[prisma oxide]

The only rare joker i like besides vagabond is campfire

Negative campfire gotta be the best art in the game

[white zodiac]

obby licks

[modest spade]

obby licks

[shell dagger]

Blu print

[amber vigil]

Baseball huh?

[white zodiac]

base balls is decent

[vocal rose]

bbc obby bp bs stuntman burnt duo trio wee aj

they all just gone

we only like vaga and campfire surely

[white zodiac]

I get it

[prisma oxide]

Who likes obelisk 😭

[vocal rose]

oh god

you just said the 3 words of doom

[white zodiac]

💔

[vocal rose]

any obelisk hate in #🕹・game-discussion is usually met with severe consequences

[prisma oxide]

Obelisk isnt bad, its just not cool to play around it 😔

[amber vigil]

Its so joever, i can hear the stampede yonder

[amber vigil]

It has clutched up in so many spots for me its unbelievable

[white zodiac]

im busy eating chicken can we move back the obby licks misinformation to 4 hours from now

[vocal rose]

idk I kinda like free wins

[amber vigil]

Most of the time its a free x mult that needs no thoughts

[white zodiac]

#🕹・game-discussion message

[hardy fable]

off to get 200% and I just beat white stake on green deck😎

[amber vigil]

What was dagger at in the bottom right holyshit

[vocal rose]

uhh I believe at like 70?

[white zodiac]

ignore the first 2 being an obv self inserted challenge

[vocal rose]

dagger is good

[amber vigil]

You got a yt tutorial right in this very chat to teach obelisk?

Splendid

What are some good independent mult and chip sources?

Often time i die when im pivoting from my most played because pf the severe dip in chips and mult so suddenlt

[shell dagger]

Red card and square

[urban ember]

why do people have jobs when you can commit crime

[shell dagger]

Runner if you keep played high cards low

[white zodiac]

anything that's not locked to a planet or questionable card scoring sources

[amber vigil]

Runner isnt instant tho right? My main problem is that i die during the pivot

[shell dagger]

Odd todd

[amber vigil]

Like by the time obelisk reaches 1.8x im already dead

I feel like

[white zodiac]

independent basically means your score not coming from planets or nova

[vocal rose]

you pivot into obelisk

[shell dagger]

Ideally runner would already be scaled

[amber vigil]

Oh true

[vocal rose]

meaning your sources of chips/mult would be scaled already

[shell dagger]

You pivot in ante 5 or so, you don’t pick up runner in ante 5

In that case something like odd todd would be better

You can pivot to 2 pair being your scoring hand

[amber vigil]

The only time i was ever able to worl obelisk was as the only time i picked it up and i transitioned from 2 pair to full house

And it was glorious

[prisma oxide]

Is madness a good idea?

[zinc karma]

My dream build in nebula is 100% supernova, constellation, astronomer, rocket and space man

[white zodiac]

fh 💔

[shell dagger]

I wouldn’t take it here

[amber vigil]

You gotta work with you got dont you?

[vocal rose]

no

[balmy ridge]

probably a stupid question but:

if you copy a foil, holographic or polychrome card with blueprint/brainstorm, does it also get the respective bonuses?

[shell dagger]

No

And not a stupid question

[vocal rose]

you dont necessarily have to play ONE hand once you start scaling obelisk

[white zodiac]

I can think of 5 better poker hands under zero context

[vocal rose]

so full house is kinda funny since its such a shit hand

[amber vigil]

Most often i die from it is because there is one blind where i get weak. When i stop playing my most played hand to till obelisk reaches like 3x

[vocal rose]

try the monolith challenge

[amber vigil]

That takes around one blind

[white zodiac]

only time it would make sense is when you have on card scoring sources

[amber vigil]

And my build drops

[white zodiac]

what takes around one blind

[amber vigil]

Did it, but still can’t incorporate obby licks in normal runs, because of incompetence. But ill try to use you guys’ advice next time i see it

[amber vigil]

The pivot?

You need like 4 to 5 hands before it reaches good x mult i think but thats because i guess i usually dont have good solid base mult

[jagged umbra]

For photchad is it better if you get a blueprint or brainstorm to put it on the Chad or photo

[white zodiac]

farming hands shouldnt be something you keep doing until it's too late and x mult takes priority then

[amber vigil]

Oh no, I specifically encountered a weirdly large number of earths that run, fb was level 6-7 i think

[white zodiac]

ideally you don't want to rely on planet scaling/scoring

[vocal rose]

you should be scaling instead of trying to blow through the antes

obviously it WORKED

[shell dagger]

Blueprint is better but if you only have one copy joker then for photochad it doesn’t matter

[vocal rose]

so it was a good choice

but you'll see the higher x mult numbers from people slowing down their gameplay to get the big number

[jagged umbra]

No like I mean what should the blueprint copy Chad or photo

[amber vigil]

I mean but like, you NEED to score when you pivot right? Like, the scoring power drops for a few hands when you pivot from most played hand. But thats because i usually over rely on planets anyway

[vocal rose]

just as a safety net

[shell dagger]

Photo

[void topaz]

The universe isnt letting me get better at balatro i went to go watch some balatro university videos and fucking youtube is glitched

[white zodiac]

independent scoring is essentially either scaling chips/mult or card source score like todd/fib. these jokers don't care what hand you play so you're not at risk of dying as you farm your obby when you underscore up until the last hand by dividing your score by the amount of hands you need to win and your reward is .8x mult

[amber vigil]

I feel like im dogshit even after watching 😭. Whats the point of having done c+ if i am still unable to clear early game with good econ

[amber vigil]

Makes sense, but i recognise that i rely on planets too much for it to be effective often, ill try to play around it and better in general next time

[void topaz]

Oh youtubes fixed yipee

[vocal rose]

I thought that was just my phone

[prisma oxide]

@vocal rose is it worth taking?

[white zodiac]

its bugging on my switch too

[void topaz]

I thought i had a virus lol

[vocal rose]

the gist is to use hand agnostic jokers

[prisma oxide]

I got 17 pairs played

[vocal rose]

round 10 ante 5...

yes it is though

100% worth the pivot

[amber vigil]

Is fibb hand agnostic?

[vocal rose]

its foiled so you get the chips sorted out a little

[void topaz]

Is that 1 blind skipped per ante

Oh hell nah

[vocal rose]

any joker that doesnt care about what hand you play

so if it fits that term then yes

[analog mulch]

On Gold Stake, Ah Double hell nah

[vocal rose]

like runner and pants as an easy example

once you start valuing scaling chips/mult jokers more you'll realize how crazy obelisk is

[white zodiac]

depends if you're barely scoring and your chips on your most played hand exceed like x3 of your current scoring capabilities (4 hands, 150 chips assuming barely winning, rough estimate)

[vocal rose]

since those jokers will always give you score regardless of hands

[tame cobalt]

Card sharp should be rare

[vocal rose]

changing rarity wouldn't change much

[amber vigil]

I mean, i know it literally is but it might require some deck fixing. On second thought a lotta jokers dont carr about hand type but im usually just scraping by so i dont reroll enought to find any good ones

[vocal rose]

also card sharp is good where its at tbh

[amber vigil]

I love card sharp

[white zodiac]

yeah

[analog mulch]

That's just as crazy as my idea for buffing the Rare "x of a kind" jokers

[tame cobalt]

X3 mult for doing basically nothing is crazy

Holy shit I played a pair twice

[white zodiac]

has 2 hard boss blind counters

[vocal rose]

I mean its crazy until you run into the two hard counters

[white zodiac]

and prefers spammable hands

[vocal rose]

esp during ante 5-7

more so 6-7 when you're relying on x mult

where you'll likely just pass away

[white zodiac]

basically blackboard

[vocal rose]

I mean if it didnt have those counters it would be an even crazier joker which is unnecessary 🤷

[manic talon]

so does HTR which also instantly dies to 2 boss blind, and thats a rare

[vocal rose]

so does trib even more so, and thats a legendary

but ik what you mean

[manic talon]

yea so why are you using that argument

[white zodiac]

so does photograph

[vocal rose]

what argument

[white zodiac]

chipper started it

[hardy fable]

not mine

[zinc karma]

Not worth taking holo here right?