🕹・game-discussion

[vague sequoia]

I have homework

Sure

[thorny garnet]

that means that once you have Q J 10 9 or K Q J 10 the straight are fine to dig for.

anything else does become iffy

[north schooner]

I dig for 10s with A-J, but it's almost certainly bad

[floral mural]

also dont dig for middle ranks early

[thorny garnet]

digging with 10s for A-J is certainly an interesting choice 😭

[floral mural]

(i make this mistake too much myself)

[north schooner]

"never draw to an inside straight" was impressed early upon me in my 5 card draw days

[tall sky]

welp

that sure is a lot of blue seals i got

[floral mural]

if youre missing a 10 in queen high for round 1 just go for the flush

[tall sky]

oops all 6s

[white zodiac]

you can since 2oak lobotomy enables this freedom

[thorny garnet]

im going to be honest usually i just go for the flush because i am too impatient to properly analyse if anything else is worth going for early on unless i see a particularly juicy 3oak in my hand

[north schooner]

ok here...

If you have 4 of a suit, but one of them is a 2, do you discard the 2?

[white zodiac]

first discard yes, last discard no, with limited context. you need a 35 chip flush

[thorny garnet]

straights are usually bad, full house is usually bad, always going for the flush feels safe enough that i always do so r1 even though i should 100% analyse properly instead lol

[floral mural]

are you saying 2 of a kind to piss people off

[white zodiac]

I say things that aren't on trend

[floral mural]

i always go for straights to avoid pressing the suit button to change the hand order im peak lazy

[white zodiac]

like photo ballot

[north schooner]

Anecdotally, if I discard the 2, I don't draw the flush, even after another discard. If I keep the 2, the flush doesn't clear.

[winter pike]

i dont think so but i cant prove it

[north schooner]

Subject to whatever the opposite of survivorship bias is

[naive jolt]

What

1. Gays are good
2. Yes i got my home, my entire home
3. UwU

[white zodiac]

depends if you have a 35 chip flush or not

[vague sequoia]

That’s 4$+12$=16$+4.5$=20.5$ average per round
To prove my point, it is NOT 30$ per round

Shit lemme retake picture

[thorny garnet]

i just keep the 2 because im a pussy ass bitch and at the very least i will usually clear in atleast 2 hands if i keep the 2

but thats trauma instilled in me from some of the worst draws ive had in my life

[vague sequoia]

Same fuckijg thing happened Omg

[cosmic sun]

[white zodiac]

make sure you include existing tarots not repeating, first tarot only ofc

[steady raven]

What should I sell?

[white zodiac]

💔

[thorny garnet]

are you going endless

[vague sequoia]

I assumed you can repeat tarots but now that I think about it, you can’t repeat them because if you do, you can’t get more vagabond value
SHIT it was way easier

[north schooner]

Well... next you have to account for holding onto the hermit and getting a temperance next 😁

Not to mention accounting for non-replacement

don't bother with the math, just know that vagabond is the best econ joker in the game

[vague sequoia]

I just removed all possibilities of not getting any of money tarots, that includes all cases of getting all 3 tarots, including the one you said

[tardy spade]

I respect the full mathematical calculation to disprove a point made by someone in a discord server. I once calculated the odds of naneinfing on ante 1

[white zodiac]

yeah make sure outside interactions make it like fool, emperor, and no dupes

[vague sequoia]

Shit I forgot about fool and emperor

I hate combinatorics

[white zodiac]

that's why I don't look at it

[vague sequoia]

Well fuck because devil can repeat while other two can’t

[white zodiac]

yeah

[vague sequoia]

But if you keep the other two saved in fool, you can

[thorny garnet]

i dont do math i feel it out and if im wrong its the game whos wrong

[vague sequoia]

No no I just wanted to prove you are NOT getting 30$ value off vagabond

[thorny garnet]

watch me

[north schooner]

I know we make fun of r/balatro a lot here, but here's a thread where people argue that fortune teller is the best scaling mult joker and red card is the worst

https://www.reddit.com/r/balatro/comments/1g7e2mi/how_do_you_rank_the_scaling_mult_jokers/

[vague sequoia]

“You can’t stop me” ahh

[white zodiac]

card draw probability is as far as I'm diving in for optimizing my fun on this game

[thorny garnet]

i will do super quick score calculations

[vague sequoia]

You can actually easily get 200$ off vagabond if you hit the chances right

[thorny garnet]

until it gets slightly too complex where i just go send it

[vague sequoia]

I lied about the easy part

[cosmic sun]

<@&1133519078540185692>

[vague sequoia]

50$ sell values of joker + showman
1 temperance 1 fool 1 emperor
Pop the temperance +50$, use fool, +50$, use emperor, +100$
Wait that’s just 200$

[thorny garnet]

im sure if something is mathmetically correct to do ill eventually hear about it in a drspectred video

im not doing the math myself

[vague sequoia]

(Assuming you get temperance+fool or 2xtemperance off emperor)

[white zodiac]

assume temperance gives 12 bucks (4 commons + rare)

[violet bear]

Pop temp for 50
Pop emperor for 2 temps for
Pop fool for emperor
Use 2 temps for 100
Pop emperor for 2 temps

[vague sequoia]

I assumed 20$ and that gave 4$ on average plus 12$ for tarots

[violet bear]

And then nothing good will ever happen to you again cause that’s batshit insane luck

[vague sequoia]

Oh wait you can keep popping emperors for emperors and temperance
That’s infinite money

[violet bear]

Yeah

[thorny garnet]

them getting bullied so hard that they deleted their post is a great detail

[violet bear]

You can also do that

[vague sequoia]

Yeah 0% is worth taking the risk for

[white zodiac]

um

ok

[vague sequoia]

Wait

Can emperors give emperors with showman

[thorny garnet]

mmmm

[violet bear]

I think so

[white zodiac]

yeah

[vague sequoia]

Oh okay

So infinite money is theoretically possible

[white zodiac]

that's why I said no repeats

[vague sequoia]

Yeah.

[white zodiac]

its possible without showman

[violet bear]

Even if it couldnt you can still get fool off emperor and copy it back

Ye

[white zodiac]

perkeo holding every consumable except 2

[violet bear]

You could do that with

Yeah

[cosmic sun]

"OccasionalGoodTakes"

[violet bear]

Exactly

[white zodiac]

or 3

[vague sequoia]

But then again there’s infinity in numerator and infinity in denominator, considering it’s a decreasing function, it will end up to average being 0$ even though you just made infinity dollars

[violet bear]

100% chance for emperor to be temperance fool

[thorny garnet]

the username fits because this certainly isnt one

[plush osprey]

emperor is pretty good

it’s just below the red card line

[vague sequoia]

Well I proved my point that even if you got multiple of hermits and temperances, the max you’ll get off vagabond is about 20$ NOT 30$

[vague sequoia]

I need to go study rigid body dynamics I got an exam in 2 weeks

[shell dagger]

We need to use lhopital tjen

[plush osprey]

bro isn’t eggmaxing

[warm kindle]

first photochad run ive had on this profile on gold stake

yorick was only x2 cause I got him late and I just skipped to boss on ante 8

[violet bear]

Or giftcardmaxxing

[warm kindle]

but certificate op

[thorny garnet]

been a while since ive had a proper photochad run

[unreal island]

Hm.

[violet bear]

Cert is indeed a pretty good joker!

[plush osprey]

i don’t like cert

[white zodiac]

top 15 for my runs

[plush osprey]

i HATE bloat

[vague sequoia]

Yeah no but lim{x->inf}(a/b) where a and b are both functions of x, and a is more increasing than b, it’s just zero

[warm kindle]

why

cause u dont like playing pairs ig

or high card

[thorny garnet]

cert is objectively good but i understand not liking deck bloat

[vague sequoia]

You can always count on average being a decreasing function overall as you are not exceeding the max output

[white zodiac]

bloat doesn't exist in cert be fr

[plush osprey]

random red seals are usually bloat

[warm kindle]

even the red seals I got wouldve been useful if my scoring wasnt so crazy already

cause I got a bunch of steel ones

[shell dagger]

What are the functions

[white zodiac]

I'll take those odds

[plush osprey]

i get that the cards are good i just like to have. lean deck

[thorny garnet]

the thing is any road to blue seals is a road worth persuing

[vague sequoia]

Oh god
Just scroll up fr

[warm kindle]

fr

plus I had a hologram early on

I sold it for the perishable brainstorm

[white zodiac]

message link 👁️👁️

[warm kindle]

and I sold the second chad I got off of an invis to get a legendary which I got yorick

[thorny garnet]

its so funny just how strong blue seals are

[muted finch]

Hello, is there any news yet about whether there will be an account in the game? So, that you can have an account on your phone and PC, for example.

[shell dagger]

I am not reading allat

[white zodiac]

idk this is peak practical benefit

[warm kindle]

all the decks I got left to gold stake are all decks I like now

[muted finch]

are u guys playing on Mobil or PC?

[warm kindle]

got through all the annoying ones, besides anaglyph I actually found that fun id just never played on it that much before

pc

[white zodiac]

switch

[warm kindle]

I do play on mobile tho

[hasty harness]

negative stencil carried

[warm kindle]

x1 mult goes crazy

[thorny garnet]

i think this is definitely taking cert too far lol

[muted finch]

but your "main" Account is on pc?

[warm kindle]

was basically just a free sticker

[warm kindle]

mhm

[rugged bloom]

https://youtube.com/shorts/CP4OITmlClc?feature=share

[warm kindle]

I prefer to play on pc

[rugged bloom]

Finally won on Gold Stake

[thorny garnet]

unless it was an eternal i still would like to sell cert as fast as possible so my gold cards and lucky cards can still. be found

[warm kindle]

I hated plasma deck gold stake

more painful than black deck

[white zodiac]

couldn't help it

spank me when I have fun

[violet bear]

This is so close to perfection

[rugged bloom]

I haven't even played Black Deck yet 😔

[violet bear]

One hologram away

[thorny garnet]

fun is strictly forbidden here

[warm kindle]

if you get tons of purple seals u just get hanged man anyways

or deaths

I lowkey got rlly lucky that run on finding so many of them

[white zodiac]

I've taken eternal rental cert a few times

[thorny garnet]

i mean yeah so would i

[shell dagger]

I don’t think you can model vagabond expected value as simply as that

[warm kindle]

like I prob used 8 hanged men minimum

[white zodiac]

yeah :)

[shell dagger]

Since it can easily snowball you

[white zodiac]

yar

[shell dagger]

Also I don’t think that calculation considered selling the dud tarots? Including $2 for priestess

[thorny garnet]

eternal rental certificate is stinky. id rather it not be eternal or rental. but its still a road to blue seals

[keen panther]

pov tboi fans

[thorny garnet]

and again any road to blue seals is a road worth persuing

[white zodiac]

you have a 0-4 dollar window so idk if he considered that

[warm kindle]

I always take eternal certificate if its early, rental tho prob not

depends on how my money is looking

[thorny garnet]

for rental it does slightly depend

[shell dagger]

Death hang man magician all have monetary value too

[thorny garnet]

but a blue seal is so powerful maybe rental is fine

[shell dagger]

Too random for me to care about

[white zodiac]

yeah not worth my time

[thorny garnet]

gold seals will also start paying for the certificate

[shell dagger]

Not a fan of stats

(Says the balatro player)

[white zodiac]

card draw probability is as far as I go

[thorny garnet]

balatro players actually having to math instead of having fun

[white zodiac]

maybe consumable manipulation

[warm kindle]

feels kinda weird having to worry about interest after playing on green deck the past like 8 runs

[shell dagger]

I already spent 3 hours today on one question

[warm kindle]

well a bit more than that

[white zodiac]

lmao

[shell dagger]

I’ll just play my balatro without checking how many 4s are left in my deck thanks

[white zodiac]

what was it

[muted finch]

How long did you Guys play to get your first win? an with which deck?

[vague sequoia]

Wait I’ve come back to say
Magicians and deaths are also money making tarots

[warm kindle]

do u mean gold stake

[shell dagger]

PDE with signalling boundary conditions - need single valued solution

[warm kindle]

cause idk but I got it on yellow deck a while ago

[white zodiac]

plasma gs didn't take that long on average and I hate that

[muted finch]

in general

[warm kindle]

on my old save

[warm kindle]

idk then

prob like first 3 runs

[vague sequoia]

Again, won’t bump up the average value anywhere close to 30$ so it’s fine to me if I just ignore it

[warm kindle]

idk what deck

[thorny garnet]

i think my bigger question if i find an early rental eternal cert is do i survive long enough to reap its benefits

[muted finch]

what how xd

[neon tusk]

Fun casual run with cat

[warm kindle]

I alr had watched tons of videos on the game

watching other ppl play

[thorny garnet]

if i do survive long enough to get to the blue seals id say probably still pick it up

[white zodiac]

omg analytical solutions
yay I love differential equations

[rugged bloom]

uhhhh

still no econ

[warm kindle]

cause I was on holiday when I discovered the game and it wasnt on mobile at the time

[white zodiac]

I would actually die if I was forced to explain it to an average joe

[cosmic seal]

pibble.

[muted finch]

ah i see, i watched 0 Videos of Balatro tbh and idk if i should watch them to learn or to self improve yk

[thorny garnet]

i really hope blue seals dont get nerfed since that is a thing some people are asking for lol

[long oxide]

Is bloodstone that good here

[warm kindle]

it might help but u can prob learn the game urself if u play enough

[shell dagger]

it’s like surfing but we can’t permit wave breaking

[unreal island]

Just got a new pb

[shell dagger]

so we do a bunch of other shit to make sure that doesn’t happen

done

[thorny garnet]

i unlocked all the jokers, vouchers and decks first and then started watching balatro university

[white zodiac]

that kinda

makes sense

something a professor would say

[cosmic seal]

pibble

[thorny garnet]

i do think getting good on your own is doable but maybe not very intuitive in balatro

[muted finch]

will do that, ty

[shell dagger]

Time consuming for the most part

[plush osprey]

i think pair spamming is a bit unintuitive, few would come up with it by themselves

[thorny garnet]

yeah

so is consumable blocking

which i consider kind of important but never really explained

i suppose showman does teach you it in a roundabout way

maybe im a stupid mfer though but i did not think about consumable blocking until someone explained it to me through a yt video lol

[cosmic sun]

showman did teach me it was ass 🔥

[cosmic seal]

pibble

[thorny garnet]

showman is so actively bad in most scenarios that its kind of hilarious

me when my celestial pack is two jupiters and one earth

[serene forge]

easy game

[pale wolf]

its def deductive reasoning

thru showman existing

showman is weird

[thorny garnet]

it sure is a joker in the video game

[cosmic seal]

pibble

[thorny garnet]

if it wasnt for the fact it does teach consumable blocking im not sure if i'd like it being here

[pale wolf]

i think showman is a necessary niche

[thorny garnet]

that is valid

[pale wolf]

id like there to be maybe one more way of obtaining a duplicate joker though

idk how it could work though

[thorny garnet]

i mean we have invis and ankh to get duplicates

[feral spade]

I'm having a problem with my current run can anyone help me figure out what's going on here? (New player)

[pale wolf]

yea invis as a time-delay method, ankh as a niche use case/restrictive method, and showman as a value reduction method

[thorny garnet]

i do think dupllicates should never be reliable for a regular run. runs are overall more fun and varied if you're lineup consists of many different jokers

compared to 5 bloodstones

[white zodiac]

sell joker to spawn last sold joker (upon selling idk)

[buoyant ridge]

3rd black deck win today wohoo ^o^

[pale wolf]

you scored 25% of what you need, in 1 or 2 hands

oh wait you have ancient

[feral spade]

Why is it saying I have a pair with only one card selected?

[pale wolf]

Read what the words say

You've already played a pair this round

You're trying to play a high card, as it says on the left, but the middle of the screen tells you what the boss blind effect is doing

[white zodiac]

there are words on the screen

yeah

[feral spade]

Yes I understand that but I don't have a pair selected

[pale wolf]

Yes?

where does it say you have a pair selected

[sly coral]

it shows u what hand u need to play

[pale wolf]

it says high card on the left right there

[white zodiac]

that's what the left screen says (high card)

[thorny garnet]

the game is telling you you can only play pairs

[feral spade]

Hold up

I'm dumb

[pale wolf]

the hand you have selected will not score because you can only play one-hand type this round, which is pairs because you already played a pair

[white zodiac]

im sure this is transparent for other languages

ok

[sly coral]

i need a random deck and stake

[feral spade]

Forget I was ever here

[pale wolf]

green green

[fathom pagoda]

Black gold

[thorny garnet]

i think this is the first time ive scraped by with a horseshit joker loadout on gold stake and its about to end because of a violet vessel

im so mad

[sly coral]

ill do it after green green

[fathom pagoda]

K

[pale wolf]

red stake vs green stake go

[thorny garnet]

the run that was 2 misprints, 1 castle, an egg and an vampire at 1.1x in ante 6 turned into this

[fathom pagoda]

Madness pivot trust

[thorny garnet]

😭

[fathom pagoda]

You take madness, roll, and there's eternal Chad right there trust me bro

[thorny garnet]

if i get a chad at all i am okay

[fathom pagoda]

Imagine you reroll once and get it

[thorny garnet]

i suppose rolling down is all i can do. i dont think planet levels on their own with constellation will get me over the threshold i need

[cosmic seal]

pibblej oker

[fathom pagoda]

Sell egg/vamp for Chad if you get it

[cosmic seal]

ancient egg

[thorny garnet]

egg would go for sure. vampire is sadly important

this run sucks ass

[fathom pagoda]

What are they at btw?

[thorny garnet]

vampire is at 1.8x

constellation at 2.2x

they both came kinda late

[fathom pagoda]

What about egg

[thorny garnet]

29 but its ante 8

[fathom pagoda]

Ah

[white zodiac]

eternal photo 😭

[fathom pagoda]

I'd honestly sell egg now hoping to find something for score

[thorny garnet]

i had to buy it to replace a perishable supernova

if i didnt i wouldve died to blinds

[rugged bloom]

You know what I'm happy

[white zodiac]

allegedly

[plush osprey]

eternal photo is fine

[thorny garnet]

this entire run is misery

[fathom pagoda]

Roll down. Sell egg if you don't find any +mult/xmult

[white zodiac]

uhm

i plead the 5th

[fathom pagoda]

If you still don't find anything

[rugged bloom]

FINALLY GOLD STAKE FINISHED

[thorny garnet]

if you got hand levels which i do here

[fathom pagoda]

It's just over

[thorny garnet]

thats the plan

[fathom pagoda]

Nice

[willow topaz]

3 legendary jokers on a non seeded run lol

[plush osprey]

i don’t like photo but taking really bad externals is a good stake tradition

[fathom pagoda]

Externals

[plush osprey]

eggternals

[fathom pagoda]

Good stake

[rugged bloom]

Eternal +10 mult 🔥

This but Eternal

[thorny garnet]

oh my fucking god

i found hanging chad

[rugged bloom]

and this eternal too

[thorny garnet]

its perishable as a final fuck you but i got the chad

[safe moat]

I feel like it’s copy black board here but what is a the play?

[sly coral]

im so sorry for whats gonna happen

[safe moat]

Natural poly

[thorny garnet]

hand levels?

the play is copy blackboard unless doing so fucking kills you because you dont have chips or plus mult to make good use of it

[harsh relic]

dont imo

[pale wolf]

disgusting

[safe moat]

Welp I did

[pale wolf]

Wait holy shit you could naneinf

[harsh relic]

😭

[pale wolf]

green green naneinf

[sly coral]

OH WAIT YES

[cosmic sun]

bro got keys jingled in front of him

[sly coral]

i need this guy in my slots

[pale wolf]

use it for the fool value!!! /s

[thorny garnet]

if you have no levels or decent joker in the shop youre going to die doing this btw lol

[sly coral]

im actually so hyped rn

green deck green stake naneinf

[ivory sun]

thanks riff raff

[thorny garnet]

unironically love hanging chad. such a fun combo

im not biased because it just singlehandedly saved a run to dying to the violet vessel

[heavy heron]

i know i should sell a rocket.. but like…

but.. the money…

the.. money…

[pale wolf]

1.5x vs 3x

tribe suc

[vestal fern]

when you're playing balatro and you're lowk genuinely feeling overstimulated so you gotta lowk yearn for your hyperfixation about how late stage capitalism and gerrymandering is bad and how you're yearning for pomegranate poetry with a bit of intellectualism and media literacy

[heavy heron]

huh

[vestal fern]

how many buzzwords are in there

[pale wolf]

2x polychrome is 3x

[heavy heron]

yea

3x is better than 1.5x

so tribe is better

but.. my money…

[pale wolf]

yea but not much better

[heavy heron]

true i win either way

i’ll just keep it funny

[pale wolf]

You're like definitely winning anyways

[heavy heron]

no tribe today

[thorny garnet]

bit sad i wasnt on my pc save i wouldve loved the gold sticker on vampire

oh well

[pale wolf]

In fact I would rather take the lucky cat

🙂

[hoary jay]

you've gotta be joking

[cosmic sun]

ew

[pale wolf]

begrudgingly run won

[cosmic sun]

devil tarot tho

[hoary jay]

it's ante 9

[pale wolf]

oh

[hoary jay]

I JUST beat ante 8

why are they here

[pale wolf]

run is already won then

hold r

[sly coral]

nah this is disgusting fr

[hoary jay]

why would i do this

[pale wolf]

you already won?

no point in continuing

[hoary jay]

yeah but the game doesn't end there

[vague sequoia]

ALL THAT IN ANTE 6

[pale wolf]

I think you'll find that it does

[white zodiac]

yes it does 👅

[thorny garnet]

endless can be fun for some people

let them have their endless

[cosmic sun]

run won with white stake stickers you already know the brainrot thats about to ensue

[hoary jay]

ante 1 through 8 is too short to completely enjoy imo

not enough time to deck fix either usually

[white zodiac]

im preserving the fun for the future

[cosmic seal]

pibble joker.

[pale wolf]

i still think every final boss blind on multiples of 8 should give stickers

[cosmic sun]

go higher stakes

[white zodiac]

call it edging

[warm kindle]

why does everyone say 8 ball is bad all you need is a dice and blueprint and to play flush five every round for it to hit consistently

[hoary jay]

mehhhh i'll think about it

[thorny garnet]

no i believe people going for c++ should suffer as much as they possibly can

[pale wolf]

dagger:

[cosmic sun]

you'll actually be challenged there lol

[warm kindle]

I had it early on to survive lol

[cosmic seal]

calm down bro ur on ante 6

[hoary jay]

how do i pivot to blood stone ante 9 i have 17 clubs

[pale wolf]

actually I just realized this would never work because endless runs are seeded runs

people would just cheat

[white zodiac]

o

[thorny garnet]

dont give c++ gooers options

[cosmic seal]

c++ gooner

[pale wolf]

use it to kill the bloodstone

bloodstone sucks

[cosmic seal]

bloodstone squirt bottle

[warm kindle]

not with dice

[sly coral]

🙏🏻

[pale wolf]

squirt bottle?

[heavy heron]

i had to sell a rocket anyway it was so tragic…

[warm kindle]

plus I alr had the heart boss

[heavy heron]

i had to sell a rocket anyway it was so tragic…

[ashen mauve]

Fuck violet vessel… all I wanna say

[cosmic seal]

squirt bottle

[thorny garnet]

bloodstone is fine it gets the job done

[cosmic sun]

nuh

[thorny garnet]

very few jokers i hate

[pale wolf]

are you trying to say Seltzer

That's not a spray bottle

[heavy heron]

SQUIRR BOTTLE

[sly coral]

YES YES

[thorny garnet]

i firmly believe almost every joker has its place if we dont count flower pot

[cosmic sun]

flower pot has its place 😔

[thorny garnet]

i will kill flower pot

[heavy heron]

excuse me, have you forgotten about the splash + flower pot synergy? 🙄

[pale wolf]

the dastardly flowerpot that gets triggered by almost any straight with a wild card vs the humble requires a specific draw while holding a specific tarot card seance

[cosmic sun]

I live by "many jokers are good but some are genuine bootycheeks"

[heavy heron]

vs the humble?

OH

i should finish reading first

before talking

[pale wolf]

[white zodiac]

guh

[thorny garnet]

im not pivoting into straights with a wild card for flower pot

[heavy heron]

wait seance doesn’t require holding a specific tarot card

[pale wolf]

to expect to proc it consistently, unless you had major deck fixing towards a suit (bad play)

[heavy heron]

flower pot and straights actually is pretty good

[heavy heron]

i see

[cosmic seal]

smeared pot

[heavy heron]

nah the fact that seance and sixth sense are in the same game

they both give the same reward but requires drastically different conditions

[cosmic seal]

pibble joker

[thorny garnet]

mb i forgot seance exists

[heavy heron]

sixth sense fixes your deck + a spectral card.. seance uhhhh find your shortcut and 4 fingers ig LOOLLLL

[thorny garnet]

will you forgive me

[pale wolf]

if sixth sense was as bad as seance, it would strength the 6 instead of destroying it

[random ice]

IT KEEPS HAPPENING

[heavy heron]

THATD BE PRETTY FUNNY THOUGH

[sly coral]

no dejavu or cryptid is funny

[heavy heron]

the 7 synergy

[white zodiac]

67

[pale wolf]

adding this to my kaizo concept

[heavy heron]

sixth sense or sixth seven

[heavy heron]

what the oujia doing there

sell allat LOOLLL

[white zodiac]

be happy you didn't understand my message

[sly coral]

every spectral card is here

[hoary jay]

bloodstone got me one more ante at least

[supple yarrow]

if i could i would make a balatro mod and play some, it sounds so fun to play modded

[heavy heron]

are you like collecting them?

[sly coral]

no? im blocking spectrals

i need cryptid for naneinf

[heavy heron]

but.. now perkeo can copy it..?

[sly coral]

ill sell them when i get the card i want

[heavy heron]

i see

[thorny garnet]

seance and flower pot both baffle me

[supple yarrow]

can perkeo copy spectrals?

[sly coral]

it can

[heavy heron]

yup

[supple yarrow]

negative eternal with ankh

[thorny garnet]

flower pot should at the very least be higher then an x3

[heavy heron]

why would you get a joker that does nothing?

[thorny garnet]

bloodstone hate so forced 🥀

[sly coral]

ecto?

[heavy heron]

in my game that joker has 0 effects for some reason

must be bugged!

[ivory sun]

darn

[hoary jay]

it did more than what i had?

[heavy heron]

i don’t think you’ll ever need more than 1 ecto for a baron build

[heavy heron]

nah i’m joking HAHA

[random ice]

LMAO WHAT ARE THE ODDS OF THIS

[heavy heron]

i’m making a joke that bloodstone sucks

[heavy heron]

JESUS

[pale wolf]

https://youtube.com/shorts/VI-fvTFay9E?si=OEUys6kNKQ2315_y

[thorny garnet]

(bloodstone is fine)

[heavy heron]

ASTRONOMICALLY LOW

[random ice]

I play too much Balatro lol

[pale wolf]

bloodstone is a bad bet

[random ice]

Three blue seal kings

[heavy heron]

if the third one was a heart that’d be seriously insane

[supple yarrow]

holy setup

[thorny garnet]

bloodstone is not the worst bet i have ever made in this video game

and im sure ill make worse ones

[sly coral]

unlucky

[hoary jay]

thinking about this joke intellectually, the punchline falls off dramatically here due to the presence of Oops! All 6s in the same shop. This combination of jokers make for a very strong build if done correctly, which causes the punchline to fall of in this context. If one were to make it in another context, say one without Oops! All 6s, the joke would prosper a lot more than in this instance.

also I like blodstone

[cosmic seal]

long long

[heavy heron]

this sounds like chatgpt said this

[hoary jay]

ilike gamblng

[cosmic seal]

long long int

[white zodiac]

reminds me of my gs naneinf attempt

[hoary jay]

I produced this with my fingers, thank you

[heavy heron]

your 4 fingers?

[pale wolf]

why'd you do that

[heavy heron]

i see

[pale wolf]

were you gonna die to scaling anyways

[tacit quail]

BLACK DECK is so hard

[heavy heron]

agreed!

[hoary jay]

genuinely one of my worst jokers of all time

[tacit quail]

nvm just pulled 4oak off the bat

[heavy heron]

LOOLLL

[thorny garnet]

bloodstones problem is not bloodstone itself its that flush scaling is just too ass for a pivot to make too much sense

[tacit quail]

run blessed

[supple yarrow]

would be fire gameplay for people bored of gold stake

[heavy heron]

nice

[random ice]

Here comes trouble

[pale wolf]

bloodstones problem 100% is having a 1 in 32 to lose every round

[heavy heron]

i think flush scaling is fine

[white zodiac]

yeah

[hoary jay]

bloodstones problem is 100% the 1 in 2

[random ice]

This is why I fullskip with Bloodstone

Like legit my make chance of winning is just to avoid blinds

[pale wolf]

genuinely not a bad idea if you score enough

[hoary jay]

i only went full bloodstone earlier cuz I was on ghost deck and there was an ankh in the shop

[pale wolf]

there's literally no reason to risk losing additional rounds to bloodstone not blocking

[tacit quail]

fym my black deck orange stake run begins with two 4oaks and no jokers

[heavy heron]

as soon as i reach 400k consistently i always skip every blind until ante 8 (and proceed to die to vv)

[sly coral]

just give me what i want alr

[tacit quail]

literally anything else would have been nice in this shop thanks game

[heavy heron]

it’s not even worth it

[tacit quail]

right

[pale wolf]

what sucks is that Earth is the best option here

[rugged bloom]

almost beat painted deck

[cosmic seal]

how do u get 13 dollar son ante 1

[pale wolf]

next to blueprint

[tacit quail]

i will take it

[hoary jay]

take it anyways it's funny

[tacit quail]

for the full house

[cosmic seal]

get a load of this guy

he plays full house

😏

[tacit quail]

OR i pull a third 4oak this run ?????????????

[white zodiac]

this would make a good litmus question

[hoary jay]

we're gonna lynch you

[tacit quail]

what the fuck

[pale wolf]

tbh id play the full house anyways

I'm not quite sure why but

[heavy heron]

you come out of small blind with $7, get $4 beating big blind with 2 hands remaining, 7 + 4 + 2 = $13

[still laurel]

its a gambling game, take the blueprint

[tacit quail]

bro ive got max money from this run in my first 3 hands

by pulling 4oak

no wasted hands

[cosmic sun]

no

[hoary jay]

they didn't cuz they're LAME

[tacit quail]

ok

[heavy heron]

TAKE TBE EARTH

[white zodiac]

oh

[heavy heron]

YOURE COMMITTED

[sly coral]

😭

[heavy heron]

YOU ARE NOW A FULL HOUSER

[tacit quail]

spectral pack will be immolate i bet right

[pale wolf]

immolation imminent

[pale wolf]

wtf

[heavy heron]

wtf

[cosmic sun]

i would run a balatro casino

[white zodiac]

whar

[cosmic sun]

since there are so many suckers here

[heavy heron]

take the incantation, trust

[tacit quail]

gonna incantate

[heavy heron]

for full houses

[pale wolf]

talisman works I guess
like a slow immolate

[heavy heron]

trust

[hoary jay]

incantation my favorite!

[heavy heron]

incantation without a doubt

[heavy heron]

HE DID IT

DJDIAOSIVUWPWFISUS

[heavy heron]

LETS GOOOOOO

[hoary jay]

oh so NOW you're being funny

[pale wolf]

and you drew a four finger straight from incantation

[hoary jay]

i see how it is

you just hate blue people

[supple yarrow]

i hate high card

[heavy heron]

GET THE EARTH AND YOURE SET

[tacit quail]

earthing it

[cosmic sun]

balatro casino where it is rigged towards blueprint ante 1 but the rest of the shops are astronomically dogshit

i'd make millions

[cosmic seal]

stuntman

[hoary jay]

i'll take my double dogshit any day

im copying that gift card

[cosmic seal]

i felt like a pro after winning high card

[tacit quail]

full house 🔥

[supple yarrow]

eh

[heavy heron]

i always knew you could do it

[tacit quail]

its enough

[heavy heron]

you’re a full houser now

[cosmic seal]

full house is easier with abandoned

[white zodiac]

need a black deck win streak as a double or nothing payout feature

[hoary jay]

i love full house !!

[heavy heron]

youre a full house man now

[sly coral]

collecting every spectral run atp

[heavy heron]

or woman

or neither

[tacit quail]

steel joker ..

[heavy heron]

let it not distract you from the full houses

arcana first for the hermit

trust me

[hoary jay]

obviously you sell out of everything and ankh perkeo 10 times

[tacit quail]

ok this is ok

[cosmic sun]

"In my defense your honor, all of our patrons say it's a gambling game"

[heavy heron]

actually better yet

[cosmic seal]

getting the good stuff early

[heavy heron]

arcana for fool —> earth

trust

[heavy heron]

no.. no.. you can not

look away from him

he’s a trap

[tacit quail]

lucky cards !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[heavy heron]

OH YEA…!

[supple yarrow]

gambling!

[heavy heron]

that’s what i was looking at too..!

[vagrant dawn]

🎰

[hoary jay]

the server didn't let me send my green goblin mask gif what the f

[white zodiac]

no dl 💔

[tacit quail]

bro my full house

[hoary jay]

why did the gif get automodded im so confused

[heavy heron]

LOOLLLLLL

[tacit quail]

pray for double lucky proc

[heavy heron]

maybe the incantation wasn’t smart

[tacit quail]

no lucky proc

[hoary jay]

IT'S NEVER HAPPENING

[heavy heron]

i’m surprised you didn’t take droll

[hoary jay]

HAHAHAA

[tacit quail]

its restart time

[white zodiac]

you weren't here during
the incident

[heavy heron]

you’re on the worst part of the whole completionist journey

[hoary jay]

im scared what was the incident

[tacit quail]

yeah

its annoying

i love it

[heavy heron]

i had a better time collecting 150 stickers than finishing black deck

[tacit quail]

im getting it out of the way in the middle of all my deck completions

the rest are gonna feel free after this

[hoary jay]

ive had more trouble on magic deck than black deck personally

[white zodiac]

the higher executives have refrained me from speaking about it

[tacit quail]

i did that one before it

[heavy heron]

i just realized you were going full houses on black deck

[tacit quail]

its ok

[heavy heron]

which is borderline insanity

[hoary jay]

but that's because magic deck consistently gives me half joker and only half joker

[tacit quail]

u take what it gives u

imo

[heavy heron]

true

[hoary jay]

yeah

and i do take it

AND IT KILLS ME

[heavy heron]

i wish they buffed full houses

[hoary jay]

THREE OF A KINDS ARE HORRIBLE

[heavy heron]

3 mult per earth

[tacit quail]

never taking holo skip a1 again

jk

this is ok

sorts me out

[heavy heron]

okay it’ll keep you alive

[abstract silo]

hello

[white zodiac]

make it a chip monster

[heavy heron]

sucks it’s perishable

but honestly that’s a decent find

money + survival

for a few rounds

[tacit quail]

wait buffoon GOATED

[cosmic seal]

pibble

[sly coral]

ofcc its not cryptid again

[tacit quail]

holo midas

[hoary jay]

yo wait that's kinda awesome

TRUST me there's gonna be a vampire AND ticket next shop

[tacit quail]

mime

mime?

mimmy

[hoary jay]

i dont think you take this

not as an eternal

[tacit quail]

true

[hoary jay]

take that voucher tho 👀

[tacit quail]

get my money up not my funny up

[cosmic seal]

pibble

[tacit quail]

death so i can death a gold card

better than interest

[white zodiac]

yes as an eternal

[sly coral]

....

[thorny garnet]

i think naninf is passing you by

[sly coral]

HES NOT EVEN IN HERE

[white zodiac]

why so poor 💔

[sly coral]

and its plant

i hate this game bro

[hoary jay]

@runic lake dude why

[cosmic seal]

pibble

[hoary jay]

true

[sly coral]

and not even cryptid when im losing

[tacit quail]

midas econ goated

[hoary jay]

do you guys prefer high contrast cards or nah

[tacit quail]

do you think i could scale redcard with having lots of goldcard

[hoary jay]

i dont know dude none of these images are loading for me

my internet is struggling fr

[white zodiac]

where mime

[hoary jay]

this is deeply saddening

[tacit quail]

i love money

[sly coral]

eh didnt work

[tacit quail]

oh come on dude im tryna keep those in hand

wait vampire

but then my money will go...

this is a hard pick

[hoary jay]

dude...

[tacit quail]

vampire prolly

[hoary jay]

golden ticket will come

trust me bro

take the vampire

[tacit quail]

vampire yeah

i keep scaling red also

[sly coral]

2QSKAPV3

impossible to get a cryptid

[cosmic seal]

craptid

[hoary jay]

luchador only appearing when you dont need him at all

[solid tapir]

probably the most uncomfortable run I've had to date, this was a struggle

[hoary jay]

OBELISK

[sly coral]

atleast i saw every spectral card

[solid tapir]

glad I picked up the pillar otherwise this run was going no where

[tacit quail]

runs dead

[solid tapir]

rip

[hasty harness]

sigma?

[thorny garnet]

i think painful runs are definitely the most fun

[hoary jay]

im watching images load in real time

like the blur is sliding off

[solid tapir]

it's only fun when I manage to beat the ante 8 idiot

idc much for endless gameplay, I just like beating gold stake ante 8

[tacit quail]

cartomancer round 1 im winning

holo ttm

[solid tapir]

nice early set up

[terse vale]

holy mult

[solid tapir]

yes

I got like zero useful planet cards so I just mult maxed

[terse vale]

Did chips just not appear 😭 I feel bad

[solid tapir]

plus I was poor asf

[terse vale]

oh

[errant brook]

I need someone who’s a bigger math nerd than me to help with something. How many “triggers” of 1.5x multiplier is roughly needed for naneinf?

[terse vale]

well you’re not usually supposed to go planets with obelisk

just chip jokers really

[tacit quail]

foil mystic summit

nice

[solid tapir]

I didn't see anything useful in the shop when I needed it so I just picked up what I could

[hasty harness]

chat i know immolate is the right play but

[frigid wave]

I am actually stupid I forgot how ecto worked and used it too many times now my hands are gone

[hasty harness]

THE GAMBLE THO

[solid tapir]

do it

[hasty harness]

😈

okay we gamble

[tacit quail]

0!!!!

[hasty harness]

NO

IT WAS NOT WORTH

😭

obelisk

[solid tapir]

one of the best rare jokers

[hasty harness]

i mean ig i can farm high card

since the run just started

and then live off that

[solid tapir]

I just did my obelisk run and it was hell

so good luck

[fading dome]

like 1700 if my math is right (starting at 1 mult)

[terse vale]

do pairs instead

cus you can be forced to play hc

[errant brook]

Close enough for me, can do what I need to do now, thanks!

[solid tapir]

this lmao

I'm not super experienced with obelisk, I think I've only had two runs total with that jonkler and it reset many times cuz I was forced to play HC in the mid game

[white zodiac]

try this one

[solid tapir]

Also 1EZC5N9L if anyone wants to give this seed a shot

[white zodiac]

play pairs and then play anything else assuming stable independent scoring

[hasty harness]

ngl i sold out of obelisk to be able to afford another spectral pack hoping to get immolate and it worked

and now i get a soul

😱

[pale wolf]

yeah it's not like you have to immediately use obelisk for scoring

[solid tapir]

I like obelisk but not enough to play a seeded obelisk run

[hasty harness]

okay wow perkeo

uh

[solid tapir]

but thank you though 😭

[pale wolf]

It's the xmult that you don't have to search for later

[hasty harness]

i gotta lock in now

[white zodiac]

not seeded 👅

[hasty harness]

cant throw anymore

regretting taking the eternal now :/

[white zodiac]

the club

[solid tapir]

how else would I try it

[pale wolf]

??

You're regretting all the wrong things

[errant brook]

Someone on Reddit posted a joker that said like “makes eternal, rental, and perishable jokers 25% stronger” and I wanted to see how many less triggers you’d need to get naneinf with a baron ghat was 25% stronger. The answer? 600ish less triggers, requiring roughly 35% less triggers. That would mean needing only like 30 cards for a naneinf

[white zodiac]

just play normally and make it a challenge

when you see one

[hasty harness]

i mean i got perkeo i want to go for a fun run now

ill just focus on winning

[solid tapir]

every run is a fun run, technically.

you just need the right mindset

[solid tapir]

hmge

[white zodiac]

👍

[hidden lance]

ngl out of the 3 restrictions perishable is easaly the worst

[sly coral]

im doing that rn got lucky again

[hasty harness]

rental is worse early game

[solid tapir]

overall perishable is just bad

[warm kindle]

❌❌❌❌❌❌❌

[errant brook]

Rental is worse if you keep only finding rentals

[warm kindle]

theres runs where ive won and said this shit was ass

[solid tapir]

yes

[errant brook]

Perishable it depends on when you find it and what the joker is

[solid tapir]

bro this shit was ass to play

but I still had fun

nonetheless

[warm kindle]

and conversely theres runs where I lost and had fun

[near sable]

Why do I always get the mark when I'm playing photo chad?

[solid tapir]

hence why I said you need the right mindset

[errant brook]

I remember once having a wacky run where I basically skipped all of ante 7 and 8 because I would win with my perishable but it would die if I didn’t do that

[solid tapir]

I do that with Mr.Bones

free win

[warm kindle]

I can see why ngl 😭

30 on both flush and high card

[errant brook]

Can Mr Bones be eternal

[warm kindle]

so u were 1 high card away from being cooked

[terse vale]

no

[solid tapir]

I counted to make sure I would get enough flush hands to beat the final boss

[sly coral]

my gold stake luck is insane

[cold finch]

is there a way to ensure dagger kills the TTM before Riffraff spawns jokers?

[unborn cliff]

sock in the judgement

[warm kindle]

crazy lineup

[terse vale]

jokers that perish on their own or jokers that need you to sell them can’t be eternal

[solid tapir]

also yes

[warm kindle]

wee and triboulet is weird tho

cause u gotta play 2s

[pale wolf]

no

[unborn cliff]

dude i swear roffle videos are manifesting into my runs

[warm kindle]

and kings and queens

[warm kindle]

do they not work in order

[nimble matrix]

I wish I got that fate ong, i severely struggle at winning

[warm kindle]

like madness and dagger do

[pale wolf]

ostensibly you would put the riff Raff after the to the Moon but I'm pretty sure it doesn't work

[unborn cliff]

recent roffle vid: had double wee
run the day after: double wee
recent roffle vid: double legendary seed (with chicot)
run the day after: trib and chicot

[warm kindle]

like u can just put the dagger before the madness

[cold finch]

FYM yeah it there was. it does work

[solid tapir]

roffle just plays a lot of games

[cold finch]

putting Riffraff behind TTM worked

[pale wolf]

weird, Not how I remember that interaction going

[solid tapir]

I had a double legendary seed a few hours ago, couldn't take the second legendary because my joker roster was full

first one was rick

[unborn cliff]

what if instead of roffle it was Roff Raff and it created 2 bait jokers every hand

[pale wolf]

behind meaning

to the left or right

[solid tapir]

Roff Raff should spawn pants

[white zodiac]

scalers are immune to perishable so the tag has less potency for foresight. other early game jokers are naturally perishable in where you're not going to keep it for long on average. rentals early have a compounding econ weight which dictates your entire flow of the run

[unborn cliff]

no he should spawn photochad bnecause of looks inside 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[warm kindle]

ive seen perishable supernovas before

[unborn cliff]

why are ALL the good jokers perishable i swear

[warm kindle]

so not entirely true

[cold finch]

given we commonly read from left to right, behind means to the right. as indicated by the screenie

[warm kindle]

but ig stuff like bus is unable to be perishable

[solid tapir]

so you're saying its impossible for scaling jokers to be perishable ?

[pale wolf]

retroactive scalers are exempt

[white zodiac]

this excludes retroactive scalers

[white zodiac]

proactive scalers yes

[pale wolf]

??? That makes no sense but okay, to the right like I thought

[solid tapir]

me getting perishable BP and BS in Ante 3

[unborn cliff]

good build
joker that carries said build
perishable

[sly coral]

BRO LMFAO I JUST REALIZED I HAVE AN EXTRA JOKER SLOT

[solid tapir]

interesting, I did not know that.

[terse vale]

hardest part about black deck

[unborn cliff]

trib is here for temperance value

[sly coral]

swash*

[warm kindle]

happened to me before

not on gold stake tho

[white zodiac]

um we read right to left (up to down) in these parts

[unborn cliff]

trvthnvke

[sly coral]

nah but fr i sold my holo for soul too

[cold finch]

run did end up dying to sheer scaling tho

[warm kindle]

why do u say it like trvthnvke instead of just truthnuke

[unborn cliff]

trvthnvke is more fun

[white zodiac]

naturally those jokers that are immune to it are also usually good to top of the line performers in gs

[solid tapir]

I genuinely forget sometimes

both

[warm kindle]

why cant I select both 🥀

[solid tapir]

I see I see

[white zodiac]

so perishable is just whatever in concept

currently

[terse vale]

depends on the waffle of course

[warm kindle]

when I get a perishable card sharp im pissed tho

[white zodiac]

later on

[solid tapir]

I just like having my early mult jokers for safety, I don't like that perishables put me on a timer to find stuff

[warm kindle]

cause its happened so many times

[sly coral]

black deck naneinf??

[warm kindle]

where it would just be a free win if it wasnt perishable

[terse dock]

Win the run first

[white zodiac]

5 round pivot

timer

[warm kindle]

have u done gold stake before on black deck cause if so then go for it ig

[solid tapir]

still

some perishables I don't mind

like egg is still a great perishable

[sly coral]

ill go for it

[hoary jay]

where is french toast

[warm kindle]

mail in rebate

any money generator basically is still good for 5 rounds

idk if rocket can be perishable but maybe not that

[solid tapir]

yeh

[warm kindle]

unless u get it immediately to 3

like right before the boss

[terse vale]

its scaling so I think not

[pale wolf]

it cant be

[terse vale]

can’t remember the last time i’ve seen a perishable rocket if at all

[white zodiac]

proactive scaling

[solid tapir]

isn't egg scaling

[pale wolf]

but satellite can be perishable

[white zodiac]

since it's retroactive

[terse vale]

well it keeps the sell value

[warm kindle]

yeah it cant be perishable

[solid tapir]

isn't it like a red card for money

sorta

[pale wolf]

in what way

[warm kindle]

not rlly

[terse vale]

I fail to follow

[warm kindle]

red card can be +6 per round

[solid tapir]

+3 per round

[warm kindle]

egg is always +3

[solid tapir]

hence why I said sorta

guys

😔

[white zodiac]

unless dagger

[warm kindle]

yeah but like its not even close imo 😭

[pale wolf]

egg being able to be perishable is a little strange tbf it is kinda a scaler

[warm kindle]

true

[solid tapir]

those who see the vision, see the vision

[pale wolf]

you could say it's not a scaling Joker because the description doesn't have a number that changes in it

[sly coral]

which one i should sell?

im going for black deck naneinf

[solid tapir]

are u doing baron or trib

[hoary jay]

do you guys like my opinions

[sly coral]

baron

[white zodiac]

kinda poor to think about that rn

[pale wolf]

The top tier's personal favorites which means this is subjective and not a measurement of how good each Joker is, there's no way to comment on it

[white zodiac]

no

[warm kindle]

scholar in favourites is crazy

[sly coral]

temp is at 40

[solid tapir]

mayhaps sell trib

[hoary jay]

aces are my favorite rank

[warm kindle]

I hate scholar with a passion

[hoary jay]

oh okay.

[white zodiac]

you're needed hundreds

[pale wolf]

scholar is some ass

[modest spade]

Baseball Card too low

[solid tapir]

I feel that

[modest spade]

Otherwise I think this is a list

[white zodiac]

thousands after double digit antes

[pale wolf]

aces are aight though

[sly coral]

i just need cryptid