🕹・game-discussion

[sly coral]

pairs are always boring

[white zodiac]

pair builds can be hand agnostic

[cloud wolf]

High card 🔥🔥

[floral mural]

so the thing is green doesnt reset when you discard

[pale grotto]

Yes

I know that

[floral mural]

if you have a nasty mail in rebate shot do it

[warm kindle]

yeah green joker and bus are goated

supernova is also up there but it requires playing one hand, but is also retroactive

[sly coral]

highcard🔥

[floral mural]

supernova also has an eye weakness mote often

[pale grotto]

The only reason i play bus is because im in gold stake in the abandoned deck

[warm kindle]

so like u can get one late in the run

[floral mural]

use it every deck

[warm kindle]

and it will still work

[floral mural]

its a great joker

[vocal rose]

bus works in every deck quite easily

[pale grotto]

T-T
Okay i will try them

[floral mural]

non scoring face cards dont reset bus

[vocal rose]

unless erratic

[white zodiac]

retroactive = 30% perishable 💔

[floral mural]

playing a pair with 2 non pairing face cards removes 2 face cards from play

[warm kindle]

just get it 5 rounds before the end 👍

[hasty harness]

we may be cooking

[pale grotto]

Discard

[white zodiac]

I wouldn't need it atp 👅

[pale grotto]

Srry and ty for the tips

[ashen mauve]

Hope this bodes well for the run

[pale grotto]

Im a wrong balatro player that still dont like most of the scaling multi jokers

[hasty harness]

imagine if u were on abandoned deck 😈

[ashen mauve]

😂😂

[floral mural]

oh yeah with bus id say dont discard immediately since you want the discard to get rid of a bunch of face cards cluttering the hand

early game at least

[warm kindle]

if you dont use scaling mult your runs are going to be much much more difficult

likely relying on planet levels and xmult

[white zodiac]

discarding them during playing hand is a simple discarding security

[warm kindle]

sometimes thats fine

but you wont get that every run

[dire inlet]

is there a reason to keep perkeo when i already have the tarot loop as i want it? i want to maximize this run and didnt think too much further than getting infinite money

[floral mural]

pair with random unrelated face cards also gets rids of face cards safely for bus

[warm kindle]

scaling +mult is much more consistent id say

[white zodiac]

the common hand mult scalers are usually the golden child for surviving early game with practically little to no secondary support

[hasty harness]

i mean u might as well wait to find a joker u want b4 selling perkeo

[pale grotto]

I know, im struggling to gold abandoned, today after 4 days i won orange

[pale grotto]

Yes thats true

Just ty all for the tips

[hasty harness]

idol pivot with 52 cards in deck

im cooking trust

[floral mural]

you burned the kitchen that idol never hitting

[hasty harness]

it will trust

🤫

[pale grotto]

He is cooking himself

[hasty harness]

okay i think i can win this run chat

i sold the eternal idol

trust

[slender creek]

which one should i get

[lean spade]

what game is that?

[white zodiac]

with any of these scalers, on r2 you can win the big blind with exactly 4 mid pairs and the next 2-3 rounds

[slender creek]

balatro

[pale grotto]

Wrathful
Delayed gratification
The hack
8ball
And faceless card

[slender creek]

8 ball is so op in this game

it doesnt have a rng

[lean spade]

balatro for linux?

[pale grotto]

Balatrinux?

[slender creek]

yes i cant play balatro anymore because i cancelled my apple arcade subscription

[buoyant ridge]

am i the only one who cant get past early game in gold stake black deck ?

[hasty harness]

what do i sell out of here

ig seeing double right

[lean spade]

surre

[pale grotto]

I sometimes got defeated by Big blind ante 1

In any deck

[peak hearth]

Yo kids what's up

I have a new problem

[pale grotto]

Why are we kids :(

[peak hearth]

I call everyone kid 😭😭 sory

[pale grotto]

Nooooo, i was joking srry

[peak hearth]

If you guys are up to, I'd love to be taught the proper way through this

[hasty harness]

im so sad

[night turret]

Chat are we cooked

[peak hearth]

I know I'm copying canio

[hasty harness]

i have like no gold or steel cards lol

but i love mime

😔

[peak hearth]

The question is how

[peak hearth]

Is it worth taking rn

What do I sell for battle pass

[white zodiac]

can't believe 8 balls did this

[hasty harness]

lowkey probably time to sell out of chad or photo and look for better jokers

[sly coral]

OHHH

[hasty harness]

but u got like no econ

[peak hearth]

Colorful

[night turret]

Most of the problem is you have no regular mult

[pale grotto]

I dont know the balatro manners yet but im selling card Sharp and copying chad

[night turret]

Do you have mult cards?

[peak hearth]

Did u js diss me for being poor

[peak hearth]

Many

[hasty harness]

pretty much

[night turret]

Then I think you should be fine

[peak hearth]

😭

[white zodiac]

reasonable words

[peak hearth]

The question is what jokers do I search for now

[white zodiac]

econ minimizes rng

reliance

[peak hearth]

I mostly rely on retriggrring gold seals

[plush osprey]

idle or baron

[hasty harness]

take blueprint then try to find mime if u have gold cards

or baron

[peak hearth]

I do not have much kings

[hasty harness]

if u have gold kings

nvm

not baron then

[plush osprey]

idle then

[peak hearth]

Tf is idle

[plush osprey]

golden idol

[peak hearth]

Can someone translate

[hasty harness]

omg guys its photo chad

[peak hearth]

Golden idol

[hasty harness]

😱

[night turret]

I think misprint fucked me over

[peak hearth]

Which

[hasty harness]

do i even take photo here

:thinky

[pale grotto]

I love photochad

[peak hearth]

What would doc do here

[hasty harness]

tbh i dont think im taking the photo

[plush osprey]

this fellow

[peak hearth]

Ah so idol

I see

[hasty harness]

actually

i think i sell green joker right

[peak hearth]

But my deck fixing is dogshit, I wouldn't be able to exploit it

[hasty harness]

cuz my base mult is pretty high already

from pairs

[pale grotto]

If i was you i would sell burnt and buy photo, is ante 6 pairs should be pretty high by now

[plush osprey]

what’s green guy on

[stray root]

Hey yall, I apologize if it's inappropriate of me to ask this here, but would it be possible to find the old artwork of Jokers that have had their artwork changed throughout the various demo and public releases of the game? For example, I know Square Joker was modified from an standard rectangle Joker to an actual square, and Blueprint's design was modified as well.

[sly coral]

if ur level is high yes

[hasty harness]

yeah but i got it a little late

im only on level 17

should be good tho

tbh

[hasty harness]

green guy is 50

[plush osprey]

50 is pretty good

[hasty harness]

yeah

[sly coral]

its better than green tho

[hasty harness]

mhm

thats why i was thinking

[pale grotto]

Only T-T

[hasty harness]

cuz its between burnt or green

[hasty harness]

🤫

[plush osprey]

get rid of burnt

[hasty harness]

but it goes up by 2 since i got brainstorm

ight i will

thanks

[plush osprey]

green protects you from le plant

[sly coral]

my goat

[hasty harness]

true

[pale grotto]

Then i pick the joker Who has no gold sricker

[white zodiac]

if planet mult is at least 7 and card draw is reasonable, green dies. if if you havent encountered hard card debuff bosses, nothing

[peak hearth]

BRI WHAT

I SOLD CARDSHARP AND IT CAME BACK

WTF

[pale grotto]

I also hate him, i use It like once and the humble plant killed me

[peak hearth]

Bro doesn't want to go

[peak hearth]

I did what now

[pale grotto]

Ruining my run

Ups

[hasty harness]

yeah didnt really matter

i win unless this blind is plant

but i still should live

cuz green joker + copy

[white zodiac]

treat it as a secondary source of x mult

[peak hearth]

When yourse

[pale grotto]

You shouldnt have to sell the bunrt joker

You have gold sticker on him?

[white zodiac]

what matters is how to treat this advice for future runs to prevent asking more questions and become independent:P

[hasty harness]

im not on gold stake rn

im on blue stake

[pale grotto]

Oh

[hasty harness]

yeah ur right

thanks

[white zodiac]

👅

[pale grotto]

Srry

[hasty harness]

im starting to grind gold stake decks now

i already had 4 done

[peak hearth]

This vexes me

[hasty harness]

took a break to get my first naninf unseeded

now im back on the grind

[peak hearth]

Eh fuck it

[hasty harness]

yeah im chilling anyway

got card sharp

[peak hearth]

We can ditch card sharp again right

[pale grotto]

Dont do it

[hasty harness]

bye bye green joker

💀

[peak hearth]

Talking about

[peak hearth]

Watch me

[pale grotto]

T-T

[hasty harness]

yeah i overthought it

[peak hearth]

AAOOOOSRHARHJ WJAT DO I DO

[hasty harness]

i woulda outscored anyway

[peak hearth]

I was given a second chance at this

[white zodiac]

glass number card

[hasty harness]

0

but im outscoring the final boss without glass anyway

another run where the game gave me mime and baron

💀

[floral mural]

i mean it seems if you copy card sharp and play pair plant does nothing anyways

[hasty harness]

yeah

[pale grotto]

Until crimson red appears and ban Chad for 5 turns

[hasty harness]

even then my pairs base should be good

[pale grotto]

Wow

[white zodiac]

it's for those who want to run photo ballot without facing consequences

[cloud sinew]

it can't ban the same card two hands in a row unless its your only card

[hasty harness]

ight i just got glass jacks now

death + judgement

as insurance

[pale grotto]

Wheres my parent the humble plant?

Our parent

Srry

[peak hearth]

I'm glassing everything for canio value rn

[white zodiac]

preferably number cards outside of a8

[peak hearth]

What up

[pale grotto]

Are you winning?

[peak hearth]

Barely

I'm about to hit scientific notation it seems

[pale grotto]

Keep It Up i trust in you

[peak hearth]

Just hit it lol

[hasty harness]

ggs

the grind continues

[peak hearth]

3.555e11

[peak hearth]

Peak

[hasty harness]

purple stake time

im honestly surprised im doing good rn

ive only been playing plasma white stake for naninf for awhile

so i thought id be selling

[pale grotto]

Dont be surprised, you are a good player

[hasty harness]

maybe ive gotten better but idk tbh

like not by much

i think its just better at managing econ is the main thing

[ivory sun]

winning run

[hasty harness]

egg

[pale grotto]

It is easier to naneinf on plasma deck?

[hasty harness]

looks inside

egg

[hasty harness]

definitely

early game is easier because u get one good chip joker and ur set for the first few antes

[ivory sun]

every single run i’ve had the past few days i’ve had egg

[pale grotto]

Oki ty in the future i Will go for it

[hasty harness]

and the balancing effect just makes it easier in general

[peak hearth]

My glass isn't breaking what do I do

[shell dagger]

It’s the only deck you can get naneinf on consistently

[hasty harness]

because the balancing yup

[shell dagger]

As in, ~50% of seeds will naneinf in the right players hands

[hasty harness]

as long as u have the econ yup

since reroll go brrrr

[ivory sun]

run saved

[hasty harness]

banana carries

interesting start

[shell dagger]

Mostly voucher and boss rng kills naneinf attempts, econ shouldn’t be an issue most of the time

Although bad vouchers can lead to bad econ (late overstock)

[river slate]

bro

fuck space joker

i played 15 flushes

not even a level

[valid abyss]

straight builders will say this is impossible

[white zodiac]

easiest with baron mime serpent tech

[vocal dragon]

i swear ghost joker is programmed to prioritize copying eternals

i cant prove it

but i swear its fucking true

[shell dagger]

Can’t prove it cos it’s conformation bias 😞

[twin lantern]

Looks inside

[white zodiac]

play 2oak it will proc

[river slate]

2oak=pair

[ivory sun]

banana left

[peak hearth]

I always thought telescope gave you your most played hand ever

[pale grotto]

:(

[pale grotto]

Yes?

[white zodiac]

=2oak

[peak hearth]

Untrue

[twin lantern]

now you have a chance to find Cavendish

[peak hearth]

I just checked rn

I got telescope

[pale grotto]

what

What gives you then?

[peak hearth]

And my most played hand in the run was high card

It only gave me puto pluto

[shadow sundial]

pluto is highcard

[peak hearth]

I checked rn too, my most played hand ever is flush

[peak hearth]

Read please

Context helps

😭😭

[pale grotto]

Okay

[shadow sundial]

it never said that

it says yiur most played hand in the run

if it doesnt specificy why assume

your fault

[pale grotto]

No, telescope gives you your most played hand in that run

[peak hearth]

Who the fuck is playing the blaming game right now

I'm just talking about it

[shadow sundial]

im blaming you

[warm kindle]

will madness get stabbed before it destroys something

[shadow sundial]

you misread hence your fault

[pale grotto]

To be honest everytime i loose i blame the plant

[warm kindle]

I know they should trigger left to right

but idk if somehow madness would just trigger first anyways

[shadow sundial]

no

[pale grotto]

Gamble

[shadow sundial]

madness kills when u select blimd

dagger kill start of round

[warm kindle]

so does dagger

according to the game

[thorny garnet]

im currently out here playing worlds ugliest balatro run

[warm kindle]

"when blind is selected"

[shadow sundial]

try it

[thorny garnet]

i hate this video game

[shadow sundial]

im unsure

[pale grotto]

Do It for the science

Then we can learn

[warm kindle]

sure ig

[shadow sundial]

whags ur deck and build

[peak hearth]

Two misprints

How

[pale grotto]

Ankh

Invisible joker

[shadow sundial]

the humble invisoble joker

[warm kindle]

it doesnt trigger

[white zodiac]

since when

[pale grotto]

Yippieeee

[shadow sundial]

now we know

[thorny garnet]

i got a wraith early with an invis that i couldnt keep around for much longer

[shadow sundial]

i was wrong

my bad

[thorny garnet]

or i wouldve died to blind scaling

[pale grotto]

Having photochad so early feels good?

[thorny garnet]

pairs on red deck

[shadow sundial]

face cards or?

[peak hearth]

Yeah this explains it

[thorny garnet]

whatever pair i can make

[pale grotto]

I didnt see the perishable on the photo srry

[shadow sundial]

deck meaning what is your current deck looking like

[thorny garnet]

ah

[peak hearth]

I love gambling

[ivory sun]

me too jimbo, me too

[pale grotto]

My most used tarot card is death

[peak hearth]

So you don't have hands

[thorny garnet]

the blue seal is pulling heavy duty here

[shadow sundial]

ypu should put some effort into deck fixing, have you encountered plant yet?

[ivory sun]

i like to use both my hands when i’m playing or when i’m working

[thorny garnet]

theres no deck fixing on this seed

[peak hearth]

Boring, use ur feet

[thorny garnet]

ive gotten an immolate and i think one hung man

[shadow sundial]

me when tarot cards rxist

[thorny garnet]

thats it

[plush osprey]

you guys don’t fw hung men like i do 💔💔💔

[shadow sundial]

death, strength, suit changers

[hasty harness]

interesting setup but its working

[thorny garnet]

death and strength dont exist

[peak hearth]

Uh, I clearly do

[white zodiac]

why is plant a concern

[thorny garnet]

if i found death i woulda used death 😭

[peak hearth]

I hang men on the regular

[shadow sundial]

i was going to advise them to buy the smiley in shop in place of one of their misprints

[thorny garnet]

suit changers do literally nothing here

[peak hearth]

To rule it out of future blinds I assume

[hardy fable]

you still have Castle right? deckfix to one suit so castle can be more effective

[thorny garnet]

true i suppose

[peak hearth]

I'm sorry sir I spoke out of line

[pale grotto]

Okay i need more of your help, how can i do It, i have the app now but idk how to do it

[white zodiac]

he doesn't need to given the current econ situation and assuming 2oak

[shadow sundial]

this is true

[thorny garnet]

i dont think chips is a concern though

i really just need econ or xmult

[spare wedge]

I’m beating completionist+ with flush (built)

[thorny garnet]

my pairs are jacked up

[hardy fable]

gl on black

[peak hearth]

Why?????????????? Why would you ever

[shadow sundial]

its not out of necessity its out of preparation, smiley will give nore consistent results and be relevant long term than a misprint ever will be

[spare wedge]

Pain

[white zodiac]

misprint is less rng killing on spammable hands as you're going to yield a less extreme bell curve of score variance

[shadow sundial]

also its another common out of the pool at the very least

[pale grotto]

The humble half joker doing nothing

[peak hearth]

The only reason I take the wheel

[stray pivot]

how would you unlock the tribe then

[violet bear]

Not even throwaway hands to find flushes?

[white zodiac]

assuming full hand access for chips in planets

[thorny garnet]

its ante 6 the improvement a smiley face will make with pairs is small and my pairs on their own are already giving 21 mult

[stray pivot]

unless you mean you unlock everything and then start only playing flushes

[spare wedge]

Yes mbmb

[white zodiac]

c+ is gold stake all decks

[thorny garnet]

i think smiley face here is throwing money away

[white zodiac]

yeah

not needed

especially with pairs

[peak hearth]

Balatro can be an Impossible game if you play like a toddler on purpose

[stray pivot]

ohhhhhh

[novel walrus]

Hi

[white zodiac]

but we're not aware of his scoring situation

[stray pivot]

i mixed it up with c++

[pale grotto]

Hi!

[warm kindle]

my fav hand!!! (is what I would say if I was crazy)

[hardy fable]

I play like I have a shopping addiction :D

[twin lantern]

is this proof I'm a true speedrunner

[peak hearth]

I do have one in fact, we're long lost brothers

[thorny garnet]

i do genuinely just think the seed is fucking me

[peak hearth]

Huh??

[pale grotto]

But what happend if the Game doesnt give you a flush? You just reset?
And what if they give you a stright flush or a royal flush?

[shadow sundial]

play balaltro like balaltto

[shadow sundial]

erm

[shadow sundial]

deck fixing:

[pale grotto]

Did you just press r?

At the very begging

[hasty harness]

didnt even need acrobat

:p

to orange stake we go

[spare wedge]

(Built I assume mb for miscommunication)

[violet bear]

Stuntman the goat

[hasty harness]

stuntman go brrrr

i had both handsize vouchers as well lol

so i could actually make pants work

[warm kindle]

im so fucking stupid

I forgot to move my dagger

[violet bear]

Who needs handsize if you’re playing (two) pairs anyways

[warm kindle]

rip burnt joker ig 😭

[hasty harness]

i mean if you have 5 handsize ur not getting 2 pairs often tbf

[shadow sundial]

there are 13 of each suit in a deck you have 4 hands 3 discards so that mrans by default you can sift through 30 cards without losing you are going to find 5 of a single suit eventually

[hasty harness]

or wait

[warm kindle]

free win thrown own the window (unless I still manage to win)

[hasty harness]

nvm its like 7 handsize

[thorny garnet]

more hand size more gold cards in hand :)

[peak hearth]

I low-key just screwed up

[violet bear]

Its doable with 6 but less consistent for sure

[hasty harness]

rofl

[violet bear]

True and real

[peak hearth]

My foot has a broken lock, and I lock myself out of my room everytime I go out

[hasty harness]

perishable blueprint first shop

[violet bear]

Me on the serpent with 12 gold cards in hand

[light dome]

Beat gold stake with campfire + canio on abandoned deck (yorick ante 9)

[peak hearth]

So I break back into my room everytime

[peak hearth]

What's a caneio

[pale grotto]

What is the tiniest handsize you can have?
I once got my handsize to 3 and died without playing

[peak hearth]

None

[pale grotto]

Canio i guess

[peak hearth]

You can just die

[light dome]

x mult scales with destroyed face cards

[peak hearth]

Yeah what is that

[peak hearth]

Ah I see

[light dome]

I will never slander certificate again

[hasty harness]

certificate the goat

😠

[pale grotto]

Certi is good

[peak hearth]

Does certificate count towards young man mult

The fucking thing

[pale grotto]

Gave me like 8 blue seals to improve my pairs

[peak hearth]

Hologram

[hasty harness]

yeah

[light dome]

Yes

[peak hearth]

Pog

[shadow sundial]

young man mult

[hasty harness]

same with marble joker

[pale grotto]

Yos

[peak hearth]

Literally peak

[light dome]

I usually like DNA more but certificate is now an equal in my book

[thorny garnet]

i guess its something

[hasty harness]

bothn good but i think imma take the rebate

[peak hearth]

The bate again

[pale grotto]

Using cryptid with holo feels so good

[shadow sundial]

im bateing it

[thorny garnet]

perishable supernova angle

[hasty harness]

rebate the goat econ joker

🙏

okay yeah rebate the goat

i got all 4 10's

🤑

[shadow sundial]

20 dollas

[pale wolf]

ok deck time

[valid abyss]

i just got a riff raff on ante 1

top 10 moments of all time

[white zodiac]

:D

[white zodiac]

:D

[thorny garnet]

we've stabilized with a constellation ggs

that should do it

[pale wolf]

pretty ok first run for discovering 100 things

aka literally the best combo of jokers maybe

[vestal fern]

wrong channel

[pale grotto]

He is going to give you photochad all in once

[valid abyss]

gave me egg and crafty joker

and then a reversed parking

[white zodiac]

fun

[hasty harness]

i love a good rift raft start

[pale grotto]

In ante 11 i mean

[valid abyss]

raft n rift

[spare wedge]

I know this is dum question do anybody know how to play other
thing than flush?

[pale grotto]

Just go supernova pairs

It works until It doesnt but trust me

[spare wedge]

Okie :3

[pale grotto]

Checkered deck hurts right?

[spare wedge]

Ye

[hasty harness]

best and worst joker in the shop at once

[white zodiac]

where's the worst joker

[valid abyss]

imagine if the dagger worked in the shop

[white zodiac]

I don't see shownan

[pale grotto]

Double rift rafy

[valid abyss]

you would be Devastated™

[hasty harness]

lol

[thorny garnet]

i agree, blueprint just cant keep up

[spare wedge]

<Imagine it actually worded but blueprint has a eternal so it dont actually worked >👈🤓

[valid abyss]

ok but what if i removes your eternal sticker

[runic sequoia]

Question

[acoustic kettle]

eternal perishables

[runic sequoia]

Does Judgement take account for joker rarity when it selects a random joker

[spare wedge]

This is dumb so I changed it

[thorny garnet]

never have i been so happy to see an ante 8 photograph without hanging chad

holy

im still not out of the woodworks because the violet vessel is coming

but its a fighting chance

[valid abyss]

how the fuck did you get t ante 8 with that build

oh wait i didnt see the constellation

nevermind you can go

[vocal rose]

x mult

[dire sapphire]

we love constellation

[thorny garnet]

i picked up the constellation 3 rounds ago too lol

[dire sapphire]

personally i love vampire

[thorny garnet]

i only just got it to x2

[valid abyss]

How The Fuck did you get to Ante 7 With that Build™

[dire sapphire]

vampire goes so crazy

[thorny garnet]

vampire is at 1.8x

[dire sapphire]

...

[spare wedge]

Egg

[thorny garnet]

blue seals

[valid abyss]

i hate vampire so much

[vocal rose]

planets

[dire sapphire]

vampire is peak

[valid abyss]

you know what else is peak

[dire sapphire]

sacrifice the lucky card

[thorny garnet]

this run sucked fucking ass

[stray pivot]

what hand are you playing

[thorny garnet]

pairs

[dire sapphire]

mr bones

[stray pivot]

ouh interesting

[dire sapphire]

[thorny garnet]

you pretty much always default to pairs unless you find one of the good flush jokers

[valid abyss]

thats whats peak

[sly coral]

i hate the hook sm bro

[dire sapphire]

i love doing straight builds

[pale grotto]

Then you play flush until you can pívot to pairs

[thorny garnet]

straight builds are too unreliable for me to like them

[dire sapphire]

Valid opinion

[thorny garnet]

depends. if AJ is there in the shop im riding that shit out

[dire sapphire]

i hate ancient joker

[stray pivot]

me too they level up so well

[thorny garnet]

get better at using AJ

[valid abyss]

i hate [insert non-controversial and very hateable game feature] sm bro

[dire sapphire]

no i have an innate dislike for wild cards

[stray pivot]

straight builds are good because you dont have to rely on jokers for it to build well

[pale grotto]

Early hook feels almost imposible some times

[spare wedge]

Flush is good 👍

[stray pivot]

so you can leave more joker slots open for econ n shit

[dire sapphire]

Nah y'all sleepin on FULL HOUSE

[supple yarrow]

hiyaa, hows everyones runs going

[thorny garnet]

you dont need wilds for AJ even though they help. with AJ often you just need one flush to win

[valid abyss]

FUCK full house

[stray pivot]

me when i started playing balatro

[low panther]

What percentage of gold stake seeds do you think are winnable?

[thorny garnet]

and you will always be able to draw atleast one flush with your preferred suits

[pale grotto]

AJ?

[dire sapphire]

99.999%

[thorny garnet]

Ancient Joker

[pale grotto]

Oh, ty

[dire sapphire]

There might be like one or two that are impossible

might

[signal frigate]

For AJ runs, you need to have even suits

To avoid a fuck up

[thorny garnet]

yeah true

[dire sapphire]

Full house is amazing right

[signal frigate]

Then you wanna fill it with Wilds

[signal frigate]

It's probably the most nothing burger hand

[thorny garnet]

wilds are genuinely just a nice to have though

[supple yarrow]

im so bad i cant even beat blue stake 💔

[spare wedge]

Um

[dire sapphire]

there is like
no jokers for full house

[signal frigate]

It doesn't have a direct synergy with any joker

[valid abyss]

whats an aj

[thorny garnet]

you dont need them, but you should make them

[signal frigate]

Ancient Joker

[valid abyss]

oh yeah

[dire sapphire]

ancient joker

[spare wedge]

Did I just play balatro wrong all along?

[valid abyss]

we love ancient joker

[pale wolf]

lmao

[signal frigate]

A fan mod called Neato Jokers made me love em

[spare wedge]

Cuz I just play flush 😳

[pale wolf]

you were playing flushes?

[dire sapphire]

Full house is a wee lil bit weak compared to other hands

[signal frigate]

Wild Card Jim is a joker that gives 1.5x to every wild cards you have

[valid abyss]

hes begging for his life

[north schooner]

hiker and smeared down, even though crimson heart blocked my bbc

[pale grotto]

He is a very determined joker

[thorny garnet]

flushes are fine. theyre worse then pairs but theres worse hands to be greeding for

[pale wolf]

flush is easy for beginners to grasp but they lack power for how hard they are to draw multiple of a round

[supple yarrow]

i wish i could play modded

[signal frigate]

No PC?

[thorny garnet]

havent played it, maybe ill check it out

[dire sapphire]

straight flush only black deck gold stake

[supple yarrow]

no im on a laptop rn im just broke so i play balatro with game pass on my xbox

[signal frigate]

Hatsune Miku is one of my favorite there

[rugged bloom]

Gold stake kicking my ass 😔

[signal frigate]

It retriggers 9's three times

[spare wedge]

Yes I'm beat c+ using only flush built 😭

[pale wolf]

like 3 worse ones

[pale grotto]

You can do it

[pale wolf]

lol

[plush osprey]

wilds are so bad

[dire sapphire]

personally my favorite mod is cryptposting

[plush osprey]

genuinely worse than mult cards

[rugged bloom]

I know I can, it's just much tougher than I thought it'd be

[pale wolf]

strush, 5oak, full house
everything else is better than flushes either generally or as a pivot

[signal frigate]

You get yourself flush five wild cards with Wild Card Jim, you can actually reach Naneinf with the right setup lmao

[rugged bloom]

I beat Orange Stake first try

[pale wolf]

and strush even has a niche

[signal frigate]

And I want them to be good

[rugged bloom]

I didn't think Gold Stake would be so tough

[signal frigate]

They should be

[pale grotto]

I was on Orange stake for 3 days

[spare wedge]

It takes me 200 flicking hourrrrrr

[faint night]

yo guys im in a gold stake blue deck run, and i just started, do i take eternal mail in rebate?

[rugged bloom]

I beat Purp and then immediately beat Orange lol

[dire sapphire]

yall gotta start playing flush sixes 🔥

[signal frigate]

Somehow I don't believe you

[plush osprey]

yes

[signal frigate]

Could be worth

[pale grotto]

T-T

[plush osprey]

definitely worth

[signal frigate]

You don't need more than 3 scoring jokers usually

[dire sapphire]

Orange stake just doesnt feel like a challenge tbh

[spare wedge]

I also don't believe myself

[rugged bloom]

Mods, break all their glass cards INSTANTLY

[north schooner]

(JR voice) Bah gawd! What a comeback!

[dire sapphire]

neither does gold stake

[dire sapphire]

What glass cards

[signal frigate]

It's not too different from Purple

[pale grotto]

Oh okay srry

[dire sapphire]

I have none

I NEVER MAKE GLASS CARDS

[signal frigate]

Gold Stake however, it's definitely the hardest

[dire sapphire]

DOWN WITH BIG GLASS

[signal frigate]

You should.

2x is pretty powerful especially on a playing card

Emergency glasses can literally save your run

[rugged bloom]

This is the one fr 🙏

[dire sapphire]

but my mult mainly is +mult from jokers

[thorny garnet]

flushes levels are generally terrible but most jokers are either a: for every hand or b: jokers that directly benefit from playing flushes/benefits over flushes over anything else which is more then i can say for something like high card that gets almost completely outclassed in almost every non endless gold stake scenario

[pale grotto]

Photochad with glass polychrome kings

[signal frigate]

That's on you man

[dire sapphire]

i still dont lose gold stake that often

[signal frigate]

You in a run rn?

[dire sapphire]

hell no

[signal frigate]

Then I question your take about Glass

[spare wedge]

Proof of my stupidity

[thorny garnet]

arguably all the secret hands are kind of garbage too

[dire sapphire]

my favorite deck is red deck

[signal frigate]

Strush is incredibly hard to pull off but it's actually pretty strong

[dire sapphire]

i love red deck

:D

[thorny garnet]

its strong but the effort you put into making strush work is effort better spend elsewhere

[dire sapphire]

so easy to beat

[signal frigate]

I'd probably rather do that than put my effort to Baron

[thorny garnet]

which is also how i feel about flush five and 5oak

[signal frigate]

Baron is rarely good in ante 8 runs

[thorny garnet]

yeah but like. neither is worth actually building towards

[dire sapphire]

i dont have baron gold stake sticker

[supple yarrow]

why is blue stake so hard

[signal frigate]

Because you're losing alot

[dire sapphire]

on my first gold stake win i got popcorn gold stake sticker 💀

[thorny garnet]

theyre both bad in gold stake

[hasty harness]

• 1 discard is bad

[north schooner]

Just like in real life, always have a spare a pair of emergency glasses

[signal frigate]

Break if necessary

[hasty harness]

it made my - a bullet point 😭

[plush osprey]

you only need one tarot to make a flush house, and the early scoring can get you out of tough situations

[signal frigate]

Blue Stake is oppressive

[thorny garnet]

oh yeah as like, an early game out its fine

[hasty harness]

why its getting changed in the new update

bruh

[plush osprey]

they should make it

-1 hand

[dire sapphire]

I love blue stake

[north schooner]

Also if you're worried about running out of glass, just pick up Glass Joker and they will last forever

[spare wedge]

Hand = blue that's make sense

[dire sapphire]

-1 discard gives challenge to flush builds

[signal frigate]

I just use glass as a last resort usually

[north schooner]

Or as I like to call him, Glimbo

[signal frigate]

Or straights

[supple yarrow]

like i keep losing every run by ante 3, why o hard

[dire sapphire]

i love straights

[signal frigate]

Saturn is actually an absurdly strong planet

[thorny garnet]

and i suppose after you use it for an early out picking up levels for it when the stupid celestial pack gives you high card, full house and flush house is not that bad. but its not worth considering unlocking flush house purely for the sake of pivoting into it later

[plush osprey]

i like this

[supple yarrow]

i was fine on black stake, is 1 really that much

[dire sapphire]

i always pick up merry andy

[signal frigate]

It scales really well

[plush osprey]

it’s good

i like saturn

[signal frigate]

How I usually beat Jokerless

[dire sapphire]

nerf saturn to +2.5 mult

[signal frigate]

Just straights

Straights and glass

[plush osprey]

yeah straights and 4oak are the only real viable builds

[thorny garnet]

saturn is fine as it is now. straights are ass to draw so it balances out

[signal frigate]

Pair.

[dire sapphire]

jokerless was just a polychrome mult card for me

[signal frigate]

I've beaten Jokerless

Using pairs

[plush osprey]

i mean you could but it’s much worse

[dire sapphire]

flush five on jokerless goes so hard

[signal frigate]

It was definitely much worse ye

[dire sapphire]

Oops all mult cards

[signal frigate]

It was hell having to barely survive but it ramps up quick because blue seals are fucking overpowered

[dire sapphire]

Challenge:
jokerless but every card is a mult card

[signal frigate]

I just filled my deck with Blue Seals and I won

[thorny garnet]

even with straights current scaling you almost never want to actually get into playing straights on gold stake unless you get a joker that enables it or runner lol

[plush osprey]

nah

straights are solid

maybe second best hand

[thorny garnet]

i could be playing pairs though...

[north schooner]

Why not both?

[supple yarrow]

actually i keep dying on blue stake by ante 3 because i have no good jokers, is it just rng, bruh

[spare wedge]

How to move on out off flush

[signal frigate]

Straights are similar to odds in drawing as Flushes

[plush osprey]

it’s not rng, it’s a skill issue

[storm lake]

I hate the Arm Boss

[thorny garnet]

they very much are not

[signal frigate]

The difference is, it scales better than Jupiter

[plush osprey]

nahhhhhh

flushes are way easier, that’s why they scale worse

[signal frigate]

But it's def a skill issue though

[spare wedge]

Flush easy to fix da deck

[storm lake]

[signal frigate]

You can get better at drawing straights

[thorny garnet]

straights are easier to draw from a cold draw but flushes are easier to draw once you factor in discards

[supple yarrow]

i just dont understand how i could do any better if the jokers just dont allow for much at all

[storm lake]

Any tips for a Yellow Deck Run?

[thorny garnet]

getting better at drawing straights doesnt change the fact that pairs are just stupidly strong in its current state

[signal frigate]

Take advantage of the big money interest

[plush osprey]

maybe you’re looking for the wrong jokers

take what is given

[storm lake]

I love this Joker

[north schooner]

Get a joker that scales well with pairs: bus, green, runner, trousers... supernova if you have to

[rugged bloom]

MAN this one was close

[signal frigate]

Sometimes, it's better to get some temporary score before you can get something better because money is everything

[acoustic kettle]

Honestly pair is so strong because it doesn't score as much allowing scaling jokers to scale

[supple yarrow]

i mean thats what im doing, taking the jokers that it gives me

[tardy spade]

when the rebalance update came out, did all the players have to retrain their brains to play again or was it not that bad?

[tardy spade]

play into them more

[storm lake]

What is the Joker that Repeats The Hand Twice?

[tardy spade]

elaborate?

[acoustic kettle]

Chad is first card

[storm lake]

It Lasts for 10 Hands I think

[thorny garnet]

no pairs are strong because straight scaling and any other scaling that comes from hands doesnt make up for the fact that if you can play your hand every round your hands essentially act as xmult

[acoustic kettle]

Seltzer is once

[tardy spade]

seltzer

[signal frigate]

It leaves alot of freedom for synergies

[storm lake]

Is it any good?

[signal frigate]

You can also easily spam it

[supple yarrow]

lol my high card is better than my flush

[tardy spade]

depends on your situation.
But it can be really good, yes

[north schooner]

This is hard to evaluate without seeing how you're playing. Are you being too picky about jokers in early shop or not picky enough?

[vocal rose]

straight scaling is good though

[acoustic kettle]

Jomer

[white zodiac]

scalers being immune to perishable for the most part excluding retroactive scalers while having the most variety of jokers that work with them in late game

[signal frigate]

Pairs is just the jack of all trades hand

[thorny garnet]

straight scaling is not 4 times better than pair scaling

[signal frigate]

It's good for scaling and good for in hand

[thorny garnet]

but i get to play pairs 4 times

[vocal rose]

wasn’t saying that but not every run calls for pairs 🤷🏽‍♀️

[signal frigate]

You don't score too much as pairs and that allows for stuff like Grimbo to get really high

[supple yarrow]

im literally taking what it gives me and only take whats better after i have full slots

[tardy spade]

scalers being immune to perishable feels like a touch of kindness from localthunk

[signal frigate]

Get to full interest always

Money is your lifeblood

[thorny garnet]

every run calls for pairs until you get a joker strong enough that benefits from another hand

[dire sapphire]

money is love

money is life

[signal frigate]

And I'm not even joking

[floral mural]

not learning to play other things than pairs on gold stakes makes them extremely boring even if pairs is always good

[signal frigate]

Everytime someone complains about the lack of good jokers, it's usually because they have shit econ

[dire sapphire]

the interest vouchers are good

[storm lake]

lol

[signal frigate]

Eh, rarely

[white zodiac]

yeah bring back old throwback

[north schooner]

absolutes are tricky. Early +mult takes priority over interest cap

[tardy spade]

what's old throwback?

[supple yarrow]

ikik i am and this run i actually got a negative tag to the moon for extra interest

[signal frigate]

That's why I also suggested having temporary score

[white zodiac]

.5x scaling proactive

[lean spade]

best tarot synergy

[tardy spade]

does this game have any absolutes strategy-wise?

[signal frigate]

NEVER skip for stake runs.

[rugged bloom]

I MIGHT HAVE TO SELL THE PERKEO 😭

[thorny garnet]

you play flushes early on until you pivot out of them

[signal frigate]

We now know why you're losing too much

[acoustic kettle]

Eh ante 1 investment can be good

[thorny garnet]

you have that i suppose

[floral mural]

like i dont care how reliable pairs are if i never did anything but go for scaling mult chips and xmult with them id be butnt out too fast

[supple yarrow]

breh

[signal frigate]

But they skipped for a negative tag lmao

[tardy spade]

that's not even absolute

[supple yarrow]

its not like its gold stake jeez

[north schooner]

except ante 1 investment

[pale wolf]

first step done

[signal frigate]

You're missing entire shops and blind reward money, that's not a good trade off for a shitty negative

[white zodiac]

awooga

[pale wolf]

I would say taking coupon tag is the incorrect choice virtually every single scenario

[rugged bloom]

Should I sell Perkeo

[storm lake]

I wish Wheel Of Fortune Would Work One Day

[thorny garnet]

if youre playing straights or full houses ante 1 its time to go back to balatro university

[tardy spade]

how can we fix negative tag?

[signal frigate]

I'm so against tags that I forgot what they do, what the fuck is a coupon tag again?

[signal frigate]

You don't

[white zodiac]

never too late to practice some good habits

[plush osprey]

the issue is you expect it to work

[tardy spade]

free stuff next shop

[pale wolf]

fix joker tags by removing stickers from the generated joker
easy
it still doesn't make them worth it but it makes them not complete wastes of time

[plush osprey]

expect it not to work and it’ll work more

[white zodiac]

free items next shop

[thorny garnet]

tags dont need to be good

[tardy spade]

like with lucky cards and money

[pale wolf]

free shop -voucher

[supple yarrow]

it was small blind and i was broke at the time

[acoustic kettle]

Jokers that comes from tags should not have tags on them (perishable eternal rental)

[thorny garnet]

the game is better if you almost never want to skip

[spare wedge]

Why u hav +10mult flush guy eternal?

[storm lake]

I forget the Odds of Wheel Of Fortune

[signal frigate]

Oh I only take that if it's ante 1 ngl

[rugged bloom]

I was desperate

[storm lake]

Odds is mostly NOPE

[pale wolf]

It's definitely not worth even r1

[storm lake]

[white zodiac]

I still don't take it via joker tags

[thorny garnet]

its worth it before rental, eternal and perishable come into play

[signal frigate]

You need to play rounds and get money from your hands or interest, even if small blind doesn't have reward money, you STILL get some from those other two

[pale wolf]

a joker that gave you a coupon tag would be sick

[spare wedge]

Hm is anything good in pack?

[plush osprey]

ALWAYS take uncommon tag

[white zodiac]

you won't see me doing it on black

[pale wolf]

why is that

[rugged bloom]

Just deck thinning

[spare wedge]

It always got blue big guy

[signal frigate]

And this is true for most tags actually, I almost never skip

[supple yarrow]

fair enough#

[north schooner]

This is so wrong.

[white zodiac]

jokers that gives you skip tags per boss blind win would be sick

[signal frigate]

You don't have to wonder why you're always broke

[rugged bloom]

so buy neither?

[spare wedge]

Then sell it for good 😌

[plush osprey]

not true

[tardy spade]

yeah what if we made tags obtainable without skipping?
Double tags are already obtainable with cola

[rugged bloom]

Perkeo?

[signal frigate]

It's why I kinda like Extra Credit for giving us that option

[tardy spade]

and anaglyph deck too

[signal frigate]

There's some jokers that gives you tags

[pale wolf]

the value of a free shop is like $15 on average, which would be nice r1 if you were simply given $15
instead you likely get subpar options to ruin your interest potential and not see an extra shop of options before you actually need scoring from joker's

[spare wedge]

Is hanging safe to sell?

[thorny garnet]

i guess that is fair

[rugged bloom]

uhhhh

maybe

dunno

i think i might live

[signal frigate]

If you have Photograph, probably not

[thorny garnet]

maybe i should not speak on tags i never pick up myself 🥀

[signal frigate]

Holy rentals

[tardy spade]

no apostrophe needed there :(

[thorny garnet]

i just treat every stake like its gold stake

[pale wolf]

voice to text

[white zodiac]

q high straight and 30 chip fh one shots r1 and leaves room for followups (also spoken from BU)

[supple yarrow]

vro ante 1 small blind eternal photo, is it even worth the 5 bucks

[rugged bloom]

i'm still confus on what to do

[signal frigate]

In gold stake, Coupon Tags value drop because we factor in the stickers n shit

[thorny garnet]

that is when you already have one in hand

[plush osprey]

oh we got a grammar expert in the chat

[acoustic kettle]

8 antes in 8 rounds

[thorny garnet]

digging for straights is usually just not a good thing to do that early

[rugged bloom]

dig for gays instead

you might find me

[tardy spade]

when it comes to things punctuation-related, I hate mistakes

[white zodiac]

what

[pale wolf]

yea value of gold stake coupon tag is probably like $3-4 less than white stake

[signal frigate]

I'm straight as fuck, you can dig for me

[tardy spade]

try digging for demis

[plush osprey]

digging for straights is often worth it

[supple yarrow]

is this even worth it?

[thorny garnet]

in round 1 and 2?

[plush osprey]

if you have a saturn then you can one shot the boss

[signal frigate]

I love taking it only to give me a fuckin free Eternal Rental lusty

[rugged bloom]

they won't stay unless you connect deeply

[plush osprey]

you could scale runner

you could get telescope value on nebula

[tardy spade]

R1 straight is only good if its lowest card is 8 or above

[thorny garnet]

i am specifically talking the first few rounds before you actually have anything

[plush osprey]

lowest?

[thorny garnet]

nebula is a decent reason

[pale wolf]

Q high straights or up wins 300+

[tardy spade]

but when you connect deeply it's worth it

[thorny garnet]

but even then you risk getting nebula on high card instead by trying to force a straight

[tardy spade]

and 10 10 5 5 5 is the smallest full house that beats 300+

[pale wolf]

keep in mind that even if you only have one card left in the straight, it's usually better to still draw for a flush with two suits left

[acoustic kettle]

Just play plasma and win sb 1 with two pair

[plush osprey]

eh you can usually play around that

[thorny garnet]

that requires using more hands. id rather just draw the flush round one and get out of there

[pale wolf]

if i first draw a 3oak r1, then ill go for full house
I'm pretty sure that's mathematically sound

[north schooner]

If you're drawing to full houses, yeah. If you have a full house in your hand that's 10's over 5s or equivalent, play it.

If you have 2 of each suit, but KQJ10, you have better odds of drawing the straight

[pale wolf]

given the three of a kind is not below rank 5

[tardy spade]

if you draw a 2 pair r1 and its 10 10 5 5 do you draw for a full house?

[pale wolf]

nope

probably a flush

[thorny garnet]

that is a super specific straight, but yeah maybe

[half plover]

well hello there

[tardy spade]

vagabond!

amazing on green deck

[half plover]

hell yeah!

[pale wolf]

The difference being looking for a generic pair versus looking for a specific rank

[north schooner]

It happens all the time though. Any straight that starts at 8 or higher will win

[white zodiac]

that's going to happen regardless when you miss either 5 card hand. nebula at least establishes a better scaling option early as a second choice for marginal difference in card draw

[vague sequoia]

Vagabussy needs to be buffed bro make it 6$

[acoustic kettle]

Homeless guy

[pale wolf]

vagabond win

[tardy spade]

unironic btw

[vague sequoia]

I STRUGGLE spending all my money

[half plover]

🧠 ✅

[plush osprey]

never

[pale wolf]

brainstorm is a waste when you don't have anything to copy with it and you potentially don't even get anything more than a 2X

especially when the alternative is like $30 of value a round

[tall sky]

BRO???

[signal frigate]

It's still a rare and could potentially give you value

[tall sky]

okay so

context

[pale wolf]

you have an open slot

[north schooner]

already ridiculously powered

[tall sky]

the previous arcana pack

had a soul as well

[vague sequoia]

Bro what
There’s 4 hands, avg you can get is 4 tarots that’s 12$

[tardy spade]

what if you get a temperance and a hermit as well?

[vague sequoia]

Chicot to carry this run to nane

[tall sky]

both packs had soul, it was crazy

[white zodiac]

not counting gold/temp/hermit pull

[pale wolf]

combining that with the potential to get interest and double your cash out

[tall sky]

i got yorick, then canio

i'll take canio

[white zodiac]

and the variety of jokers vagabond has synergies with

it's too strong for its own good

[sweet girder]

imagine getting seance value with green joker

[acoustic kettle]

Why does the homeless guy gives me free tarot readings when i am poor like him

[violet bear]

Because he’s based like that

[vague sequoia]

Hmmm okay okay okay i feel you but there’s 22 tarots, 2 give you significant money, assuming hermit would be 4$ at max and temperance would be 20$ average (generous btw) that’s (24/22) avg $
That does NOT take that to 30$

[tardy spade]

with actual tarot readings, it makes a difference if your tarot comes out upside down
What if that also worked in Balatro, with your tarot coming out upside down meaning it reversed the effect or something?

[tardy spade]

gold cards?

also are you saying $20 per round is bad?

[white zodiac]

the fool 👅

[rugged bloom]

I MAY NOT HAVE A BRAIN GENTLEMEN, BUT I HAVE AN IDEA

[rugged bloom]

I don't doubt that one second

[vague sequoia]

24/22 I meant division

[tardy spade]

ok now I'm confused

[vague sequoia]

Well

That would be 27/22 if you consider gold cards

SHIT you can get multiple of the same cards

[tardy spade]

where's the /22 coming from

[vague sequoia]

Lemme calculate first then I’ll explain

[rancid widget]

what do i get here

[vague sequoia]

If assuming you get only one copy of card in a round, if you get all the money tarots you get 27/22$ avg

Because (1x3+1x20+1x4)/22

So every tarot multiplied by its value divided by total cards

But you can easily see the massive flaw there

Let me calculate it though

[tardy spade]

why /22 though? I get there's 22 tarots, but what does that mean?

[floral mural]

isnt vagabond great because its cash deck fixing and card enhancing all at once

[spiral cairn]

are trousers worth it

js started ghost deck white stake

[north schooner]

Yes

[floral mural]

yes they are but dont take two pair levels

[spiral cairn]

alr

[tardy spade]

yeah true that's very good

[vague sequoia]

I’m calculating avg value, you can’t just assume you get the three tarots

[spiral cairn]

ye got it

[white zodiac]

moral of the story, vagabond is worth the value your losing and getting

[tardy spade]

ohhh

[floral mural]

scaling trousers relies on not scoring too much so try not to take too many levels in two pair

because playing more hands means more mult

[vague sequoia]

Let me calculate the rest of the cases tho, I’ll assume 1 to 7 hands tho, more would be just outrageous to calculate

Plus more hands would mean you’re in late game where vagabond isn’t that viable

Okay well can we just agree it won’t add up to 30$ a round bcz I’m not calculating all that

[white zodiac]

just do 4