🕹・game-discussion

[calm turtle]

What should I do?

[twin lantern]

sell the wee

[sly coral]

copy photo for score btw

[twin lantern]

i'd use the ecto actually

use the ecto and copy the polychrome king but like after enhancing it into a lucky card

[frigid scroll]

im so happy 😭

[tranquil steppe]

Just got Mr bones my beloved

[sly coral]

Sock and buskin is 16x with the poly kings

[frigid scroll]

yeah, im going for that now

feeling invincible

|| title card||

[calm turtle]

I got verdant leaf and had to sell photo but photo and oops both came back

[twin lantern]

balatro wants ppl to make photochads ong

[mortal aurora]

photochad moment

[calm turtle]

Do I take oops in protest?

[twin lantern]

idk bro

tbh there are a lot of ways to continue there

[still frost]

I think oops would be more fun overall lol

[unborn cliff]

literally how did i miss EVERY ace

[twin lantern]

like it'd be possible to spend all your hands but one upgrading the cat

[still frost]

As long as you get some planet levels for chips you should get enough mult from lucky card + Chad and more than enough xmult from lucky cat

[shrewd night]

How is this-

[royal shale]

how many cards in deck to start, 52?

[unborn cliff]

yeah

[still frost]

Standard playing card decks are 52 yeah

[royal shale]

coulda used hung men first shop or added a card, you never know

[unborn cliff]

skipped for investment

[heady narwhal]

not enough grimbo and rtb and redcard i think

[royal shale]

information excluded from screenshots, couldn't have known that :3

anyways a calculator says it was ~1/1172 chance to draw 1 Ace there from 38 draws

[high briar]

jst had the best idol run of my life (i died due to greediness full copying hack instead of copying idol) lucky cat was 60x btw

greed kills another one of my runs 😔

[wintry igloo]

wow

trying to get the 400 gold joker

and it kept getting luckier and luckier

survived until 12th ante tho because of 5 hand size

[stark karma]

does parking make me more money? 5 hands, 3 discards

[wintry igloo]

5k 😭 🥀

[stark karma]

I think my hand size is 8?

[stark karma]

ah cmon it took me a while to find rebate

well find an ecto for the rebate

[stark karma]

ohhhh I see

noob

jkjk love u

[wintry igloo]

just left 3 jokers to unlock then I'll try modded

[stark karma]

fr tho anyone know?

[wintry igloo]

I'm too noob for that

nice jokers tho is it seeded or luck?

[stark karma]

average 4$ per king with the right copies?

[stark karma]

skill

[wintry igloo]

[stark karma]

you don't get to that point with luck

not at all

[twin lantern]

nah

i mean

the parking doesnt make more

[stark karma]

reeeeally

so it's 20 per card

100 per hand

[twin lantern]

but you don't have the dice

[stark karma]

and then 300 for all discards

[stark karma]

wait wait wait

ik

parking is like average 0.5 x3 x 3 with the right copies

soo 4.5 per king

[bright grotto]

hi

[zinc karma]

I think i need to stop using hologram 🤔

[stark karma]

xlike 8 kings is 36

x4 is 144

[bright grotto]

no

[stark karma]

oh....

that's ass

[bright grotto]

hologram goated

[zinc karma]

I know, but i want other jokers with gold stake

[bright grotto]

how many mult has the hologram?

[zinc karma]

He had 5.25

[bright grotto]

oh then yes

[zinc karma]

Not the biggest ive got

[bright grotto]

fire

[zinc karma]

My biggest one was 9

Somehow

[bright grotto]

i had one with 11x mult

it was so good

[dry ether]

I just got a polychrome baseball from a random tarot card

[zinc karma]

Dayum

[bright grotto]

fire

[stark karma]

rebate IS very powerful

[zinc karma]

Imo hologram is the best xmult joker excluding the legendaries

[stark karma]

but I like it sm

plz dont nerf it thunk

[bright grotto]

any tips for ghost deck on gold stake?

[zinc karma]

Pray

[bright grotto]

true

[heady narwhal]

don't save the hex for too long

[bright grotto]

i got to ante 6 earlier

[stark karma]

immolate is your friend always

[heady narwhal]

i usually want to have it used by the ante 2 sb

[bright grotto]

me too

[zinc karma]

It was my first ever gold stake and never touched it again tbh 🤔

[heady narwhal]

i used ghost deck for pretty much all of c++

[bright grotto]

but i always get eternal jokers and i dont know if i should take them or not

[heady narwhal]

eternal polychrome is usually worth the slot even if the joker isn't that good

[bright grotto]

i almost have no money and the antes scale very fast

[soft trout]

it does have very good scaling, bloating your deck kinda hurts though

obelisk (when you have the circumstances for it) and campfire is what i have up there

[zinc karma]

It is a good deck but its a bit hard imo

[soft trout]

blackboard has a pretty free cond also

[heady narwhal]

i'd say you can safely take one non-scoring eternal

[heady narwhal]

i think it's in the top 5 easiest decks

[bright grotto]

obelisk sucks tbh

[heady narwhal]

not really

[stark pier]

Holy run

[soft trout]

?

[zinc karma]

Theyre much more difficult to use, not worth imo

[soft trout]

buying and selling random consumables is too hard?

[bright grotto]

yes

[soft trout]

checking your played hands a few times is too hard?

[zinc karma]

Its hard to master ig, idk

[soft trout]

of course lmao

[bright grotto]

yes

[zinc karma]

I played it when i had 0 knowledge about the game

[urban sun]

i've only used yellow for my c++ runs so far

[heady narwhal]

if you're running out of money: don't buy non-spectral packs until you have $25 and focus on value generation especially early when possible

if you can't keep up with the scaling: play pairs with scaling +mult and either blue seals or scaling +chips

these are kind of general so they might not help

[bright grotto]

ok thankss

[urban sun]

photochad

[soft trout]

obelisk and campfire scale stupidly fast, i had campfire secure runs

[urban sun]

campfire is amazing

[heady narwhal]

campfire just deletes ante 8 from the game it's crazy

[zinc karma]

I dont really like yellow but it gave me one of the funniest runs i could get

[urban sun]

bruh

how many wheel hits

[soft trout]

shoutout to constellation

and vampire

[zinc karma]

I HATE vampire

[heady narwhal]

i love vampire my b tier goat

it gets the job done!! sometimes!!

[urban sun]

campfirer

[zinc karma]

I hate it because its way too dependent on tarot cards

Might be good in zodiac

[heady narwhal]

tarots are really good anyways. my second favorite booster

[zinc karma]

3

[heady narwhal]

i think it does well enough with default econ

[zinc karma]

Or 2?

I dont remember

But i got vagabond in wraith

Already with poly

[formal abyss]

it jus gets buffed from rentals existing ngl

[stark karma]

naneinf is such a slog omg

once I'm done with this I'm never going back

[heady narwhal]

it's still really good before gold stake

[zinc karma]

Pretty dependent on your economy tho

🤔

Really good with ticket and retrigers ig

[formal abyss]

no...?

not as heavily as it looks anyway

[stark karma]

red card and flashcard are very annoying for me on goldstake

getting them early feels so sucky

[molten valley]

Hey I just joined because apparently this game still gets updates??

ik bug fixes and balances but will new jokers ever be added maybe?

[modest spade]

Yes, in 2026

[jagged torrent]

Omg another bbc fan? Let's goo

[modest spade]

Yeah

[tranquil steppe]

In balatro 2 yes. You can also go for joker 151 if you want

[molten valley]

🤞

balatro 2?? I gotta keep up on the news more

[stark karma]

2027 actually

[modest spade]

Sorry yall I meant to say 2028

[terse dock]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1415780753735680151

[tranquil steppe]

Yes. 1.1 is code for 2 because 1+1 =2 https://www.gamesradar.com/games/roguelike/balatros-first-big-update-is-still-on-track-for-2025-but-itll-be-done-when-its-done-because-its-got-to-be-good-before-its-fast/

[languid pecan]

do seeded runs contribute to stats page? been doing some of docs gold stake lesson seeds and was curious

[terse dock]

Yes

[mortal cradle]

Hopefully it's not annoying to ask this, but I've been unable to find an answer anywhere. Do we know if 1.1 is going to include cross-save?

I got (horribly) addicted on steam, and recently got the mobile version too, but the inability to carry over my progress has been keeping me from playing mobile (as much as I'm dying to take my addiction anywhere)

[tranquil steppe]

Just play on switch EZPZ

[terse dock]

Profile->Unlock All on mobile

[mortal cradle]

But then I'd still need to start over :c

[mortal cradle]

You can just... Do that?

[terse dock]

Yeah

[vestal fern]

balatwo

[fading dome]

this article is massively outdated yikes

[mortal cradle]

Although I'm probably a long way from everything unlocked too, so I wouldn't want to skip a bunch of the progression either

[stark karma]

this look right for the copies?

4x4?

[terse dock]

Have you unlocked a bulk of the jokers

[stark karma]

you're fucking joking me

[mortal cradle]

I think at least more than half, but probably not a lot more, but it's hard to remember off the top of my head

[stark karma]

look at my money bro ToT

I got that greedy

[terse dock]

I'd wait until you hit 85% and then unlock all on mobile

[urban sun]

😭

[vestal fern]

they're literally fools what's your excuse

[terse dock]

Go next

[stark karma]

wdym

[vestal fern]

the jonklers

[stark karma]

ohhhhhh yeah

[mortal cradle]

I'll probably keep that in mind. I'm guessing though that we don't know about when cross-save is coming yet?

[terse dock]

We do not

[stark karma]

thank you flynn white from breaking bad

[jagged torrent]

Skip the blue print for a nat negative bp

Trust

[stark karma]

credit card in the perishable tag

[smoky socket]

is the build fire 🥹✅✅

-# this was the best I could get. madness was the only source of xmult I got in the game. 💔💔💔

[wintry ice]

would it be worth it to turn these 3s into 4s so i can turn them into 5s later

or do i death the ace instead

[heavy minnow]

NOOOOOOOOOO WHAT THE FUCK

[balmy ridge]

chat pls help what do i do in this situation

[terse vale]

worth it to strength 3s imo

[balmy ridge]

canio is 1x, haven't found any ways to destroy but it feels stupid to sell a legendary

[heavy minnow]

how do we have similar problems at the same time bro

look at mine

[balmy ridge]

lol

sort of

[sharp seal]

um so like, is ecto worth it here when trying for nan inf? it's the second one, so -2 hand size not 1

[naive jolt]

Do you have the 2 hand size vouchers ? If yes, yes i think

[sharp seal]

I do yeah

[wintry ice]

square is pretty good with fib right

or do i focus on 4oak levels instead

[naive jolt]

I'd take the ecto then
If you are deck fixed enough and you can play your hands

[balmy ridge]

can anyone advise? just sat afk on this screen lol

[bright grotto]

I WON ON GOLD STAKE

[balmy ridge]

happy for you

[bright grotto]

ggs

[sharp seal]

somewhat fixed

[naive jolt]

I sell canio and either the sock or the ancient and buy the photo chad
sell the sock if you have wild cards, sell the ancient if you have lucky cards

[naive jolt]

Is it enough to always get your score ? If so just go on with ecto

[naive jolt]

Gg

[sharp seal]

yeah, should be good

im doing it

[wintry ice]

canio can probably outpace what photo could give

[naive jolt]

oh yeah i'm biased, i hate canio

[wintry ice]

guess this works for now

[balmy ridge]

3rd time trying hi what should i do hi!!!

[twin lantern]

permanent ankh?

[zinc karma]

Buskin and rebate, maybe 🤔

[wintry ice]

i ended up fucking myself over to needle

oops

[twin lantern]

it really stayed

[balmy ridge]

skip photograph and chad though?

[balmy ridge]

your eyes must hurt from the vct filter lol

[zinc karma]

Nope, sell buskin and rebate for photochad

[balmy ridge]

ok appreciate it thank you

[wintry ice]

i wouldn't sell sock because aj benefits a lot from it

[zinc karma]

How many face cards do u have?

[sharp seal]

is voucher worth it tho? I'm handfully beating the ante's, but missing a good amount of key pieces

[wintry ice]

yea it gives you more time to get there

[naive jolt]

What

[wintry ice]

take it at the end of the ante

you also need econ

[naive jolt]

No never sell rebate ?!?

[north schooner]

Always take a rocket investment

[gentle sleet]

Im deadass about to cry

[naive jolt]

If you don't wanna keep canio do this
If you wanna keep canio, ignore the photochad

[zinc karma]

What deck?

[gentle sleet]

Checkered, I tried green deck and only got 2 good attempts (mind you both were on the very last hand before the dub and I lost twice😭🙏)

[naive jolt]

Gg checkered ?

[tranquil steppe]

Congrats!!!

[gentle sleet]

Ye

[naive jolt]

Checkered easiest deck but good intro

[sterile pebble]

I'm trying more for gold stake streaking, my record is 7 right now, but i have a hard time streaking for more than 2-3 at a time. I keep getting into these weird scenarios where im kind of stable, but not quite stable enough to literally guarantee 0 eventual fail states. So i need to spend money to account for all possible ways i can lose and make sure those can't happen, but i also can't graurantee that my money isnt wasted, but also i need to make sure i dont waste it in order for there to literally be 0 possible ways i lose the run.

How do i consistently solve this problem?

[naive jolt]

Now you know how to play flushes

Try smth else

[gentle sleet]

I can tell lol

[gentle sleet]

On any other deck I usually go for two pair

[wintry ice]

god dammit

[gentle sleet]

I only use flush on this one

[zinc karma]

Interesting

[pale wolf]

are you sticking to one deck

[gentle sleet]

What’s that joker in the middle? I don’t own that one

[wintry ice]

astronomer

makes celestial packs and planets free

[gentle sleet]

Let me guess for collecting all planet cards?

[sterile pebble]

like you're on green deck with enough score to sort of one shot ante 3 kind of but not quite, so you need to spend money to account for future fail conditions, but you also need money because losing moeny kind of make syou lose the game if it doesnt translate to score, and you can't gaurantee that money translates to score with literal complete certainty

[wintry ice]

no i just thought it'd be a net positive on money

[sterile pebble]

im not sure how people take those situations and win literally every time

[sterile pebble]

i tend to rotate on win

[wintry ice]

time to give it up

[sterile pebble]

ideally i would love to do like 15 decks in a row gold stake win streak

[zinc karma]

Pair is better 🤔 2 pair is worth it with the pants

[gentle sleet]

Thanks bro, legit the credit card joker came in heavy clutch

[wintry ice]

you generally avoid relying on two pair with pants

you want to play them for scaling

so scoring more lets you play more of them

[gentle sleet]

I’ve seen people say high card and pair are goated

Why is that? I don’t quite understand fully

[wintry ice]

pairs are the best hand in the game solely because you will always be able to play them

[unreal island]

Is balatro.stupid

[zinc karma]

Easy hands and scale a LOT with planet cards

[gentle sleet]

Must be insanely good with burnt

[wintry ice]

they are

[zinc karma]

Cuz they are

[gentle sleet]

Especially high card

[zinc karma]

Both of em are pretty much the same tbh

90% of ur hands will have a pair

[unreal island]

Burnt and trading card vs sixth sense and dna

[wintry ice]

god dammit

[unreal island]

Reserved parking pog

[wintry ice]

this will be a pair level mult run

[zinc karma]

Sixth sense and dna must be one of my favorites synergies

[unreal island]

500 spectral cards

[zinc karma]

Ghost deck without gost deck

[wintry ice]

bruh

[gusty blaze]

Should I take?

[shrewd night]

Is the charm tag any rarer than other tags or am I just really fucking unlucky?

[wintry ice]

you should be relying on planet levels by now

[zinc karma]

No

[wintry ice]

abstract will never do more than a scaled yorick

got a polychrome

i'll likely need to death it over and over again

fuck yeah

oh well

[rough prairie]

ugh, I can't clear the red dot from my collection. I tapped everything, played some rounds but when I come back it's all unseen agian

[north schooner]

Pairs let you discard three unrelated cards, whereas high card doesn't unless you have an ace.

[unreal island]

Eternal chad 💔

[wintry ice]

does this work for +mult

or do i not need it with lvl 7 pairs

[unreal island]

Rip run over

[languid pecan]

what

[rough prairie]

Play a pair +3 cards

[wintry ice]

this is great for my run ig

[languid pecan]

you can play high card + 4 cards? not saying high card is better just dont understand your point

[wintry ice]

if madness didn't destroy it

[rough prairie]

Yes, but it won't score the one you want to, unless that is an ace

[wintry ice]

this run is so strange

[north schooner]

How do you discard face cards without an ace? eg if you're playing ride the bus

[rough prairie]

Or rather, it might not be the one you want to score

[languid pecan]

oh thats what youre talking about

i was confused

[north schooner]

yep

[languid pecan]

yeah pairs are better for discarding higher ranked cards

otherwise it doesnt matter too much

[north schooner]

High card is the only hand you can be forced to play, which matters for obelisk and some boss blinds

[rough prairie]

Madness will always hit a non-eternal joker if you have any

[north schooner]

and chip scaling is slower obviously. Not saying high card isn't good, but pairs have many advantages

[languid pecan]

pairs are normally better unless you have - handsize imo

[north schooner]

or you're playing mime or something

[languid pecan]

meh

in an ante 8 run pairs still better imo

in endless yeah sure

[north schooner]

yes, that was my point

I mean, mime is still good without Baron. Gold and blue ftw

[languid pecan]

mime is one of my favorite jokers

baron is not

carried a many of my runs

even got it on my stats page

[rough prairie]

I'd like Baron if I ever saw him outside Abandoned deck

[languid pecan]

eh

[north schooner]

no chips?

[languid pecan]

you take mult more often first round than chip jokers

[wintry ice]

i probably should have taken that half joker

(i died)

[languid pecan]

i value chip jokers a lot but theyre slightly lower priority

[north schooner]

True but square shows up in my top 10. I'm trying to replace him with runner, but he is stubborn

[wintry ice]

mult jokers are better to get early on

[languid pecan]

i undervalued square for a while so its gonna be a hot second before it appears in my stats

[north schooner]

I mean, yes but many that you grab early on don't show up in top 10 because they don't last

[wintry ice]

somehow he's the only scaling chip joker in the top 10 of my main profile

[languid pecan]

heres my jokers stats slightly extended

[north schooner]

Same

makes me wonder how close runner is

[languid pecan]

photo being out of my top 10 stats is my greatest achievement as a balatro player

[north schooner]

It's funny that I haven't played photochad since I started gold stakes, but I get them independently enough that photo is still up there

[wintry ice]

awesome a dagger run

[fervent wolf]

A me run!?

[wintry ice]

no it's not negative

[north schooner]

Maybe if you were more positive?

[fervent wolf]

I'm still Dagger!

[languid pecan]

good econ too is nice

[north schooner]

you're kinda of a downer

[wintry ice]

yeah like stop killing people

[north schooner]

sorry you had to hear it from me

[wintry ice]

it's abandoned so i'm sacrificing it

got chips

[fervent wolf]

I'm not!!!

[languid pecan]

w

[wintry ice]

surely i won't die to killing crafty joker

or whatever his name is

[languid pecan]

a smiley face too 🙂

[north schooner]

my most successful dagger run I got it to 100+ but couldn't find any xMult and lost

[wintry ice]

i may be stupid

[fervent wolf]

You put shame on my name!

[languid pecan]

o7

[wintry ice]

i should have kept the page 1 joker

[languid pecan]

lemme guess you murdered the mad joker

[north schooner]

called it

[wintry ice]

yep

[north schooner]

gimme a deck to play for stickers imma little tired of anaglyph

[wintry ice]

ghost

[white zodiac]

plasma

gl

[languid pecan]

you shouldve stopped doing anaglyph like 50 joker stickers ago lol

[fervent wolf]

Black

[north schooner]

Seriously tho

[languid pecan]

yellow deck i did for my final ones mainly

[north schooner]

It's still kinda working

[languid pecan]

abandoned deck i did for quite a few too

[fervent wolf]

Any deck that can give you a Negative Ceremonial Dagger on ante 1 round 1

[north schooner]

I'd be up for that, you still need one

[languid pecan]

abandoned deck is good because you can pivot to better hands that rely on jokers less

yellow deck is good because econ is power

[raven fulcrum]

Green deckkkkkkkk

[rustic comet]

yellow or blue

[raven fulcrum]

Scratch that

Black deckkkk

[languid pecan]

I prefer black deck over green deck

[raven fulcrum]

Black is perfect

[north schooner]

I forgot I had a run going already. Eternal chad for lucky cards?? I can probably wait...

[wintry ice]

might be good to use glass for scoring later

depending on your pair level

[balmy ridge]

rebate > to do list?

[scarlet hare]

How foiled are my jokers

[wintry ice]

it's way better yeah

[balmy ridge]

thought so just making sure, thanks

[safe moat]

BOYS

YOU KNOW WHAT TIME IT IS

[north schooner]

Yeah that too. I passed it for now, hopefully it comes back. Doing a speculative hack build

Hmm... burglar needs a sticker

[quaint token]

😔

[languid pecan]

Rebate is debated by most people to be the best econ in the game

[pulsar forge]

debated

what's better

[languid pecan]

I'm one of the most people so idk

[balmy ridge]

inclined to agree but maybe a super early rocket could be better

[hasty harness]

it is best imo

[languid pecan]

Eh

[hasty harness]

rocket doesnt work with brainstorm or blueprint

[languid pecan]

Not exactly

[pulsar forge]

rocket always gets capped

[balmy ridge]

oh rockets capped?

[north schooner]

it's situational. Rocket, golden ticket, vagabond

[rustic comet]

early rocket is good but since you can copy mail in

[languid pecan]

There's a limited amount of antes

[rustic comet]

if you planning to go longer run then mail in would outscale rocket

[balmy ridge]

lol what does golden ticket do? haven't unlocked it yet i dont think

[north schooner]

Well, capped by its linear scaling

[balmy ridge]

oh i see. sucks then, i didn't realise that

[hasty harness]

$4 for every played scored gold card

so pretty good

especially with retriggers

[north schooner]

$4 for every scored gold card, copyable

[languid pecan]

Everything in this game is situational, rebate is the best because it has the most situations where it's the best

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[balmy ridge]

crazy synergy with midas mask no???

like absurd

[languid pecan]

Welcome to the club

[north schooner]

It's arguable worst early because of lack of deckfixing, but every $ helps early anyway

[hasty harness]

its good considering u can play all ur face cards in 1 or 2 blinds and then sell out of it

and bam

[lilac beacon]

what r the odds for common uncommon and rare cards btw

also legendary

[hasty harness]

u get a free joker slot from selling midas but u get all the value

since all ur face cards r gold

[languid pecan]

Its definitely arguable but idk

[balmy ridge]

what would be the point in selling it though

[north schooner]

0.3% for every card in a tarot or spectral pack

[hasty harness]

i mean u can see a ton of ur deck even then

[balmy ridge]

i mean you can just keep scoring golds and getting a butt ton of money no?

[hasty harness]

and ur almost guaranteed $5-10 per blind

[languid pecan]

Early on instead of $5 it's actually $6 since you're getting interest for each discarded card

[balmy ridge]

until you find something better or you're struggling wtih score

[hasty harness]

midas mask makes ur cards gold and they stay gold

even if u sell out of it

so u play all ur face cards and make them gold

and then sell out of it once ur done doing that

[coarse silo]

Rebate is absolutely better than to do list

[languid pecan]

Yeah no question about that

The argument is whether it's the best econ period

[hasty harness]

i mean even early game u can get at least $10 usually

[balmy ridge]

oh i see

[hasty harness]

if u use all ur hands and discards

[north schooner]

Yeah, I'm not saying rebate isn't best, just proposing some contenders

[balmy ridge]

but you only get $4 for scoring gold cards IF you have golden ticket?

so.. why sell it quickly?

[hasty harness]

no dont sell gold ticket

sell midas

[balmy ridge]

oh eyah

[hasty harness]

after u make all ur cards gold

but keep ticket

[balmy ridge]

ok i understand my bad

[hasty harness]

nah ur good lol

so say u have a chad

[balmy ridge]

how do you unlock golden ticket? i wanna try that out

[hasty harness]

if u play a golden card with golden ticket

[north schooner]

Yeah but sometimes you need those cards just to win

[hasty harness]

bam

$12

[hasty harness]

yeah i get that but usually early game if u save a full house or so you'll be fine

but imo rebate easily the best

[hasty harness]

i forget the exact requirement but i think its like u need 1 gold card to find it

at least

u cant find it until you have 1 gold card in ur deck

but theres a condition

that you need to fulfill

before that to get it for the first time

[languid pecan]

If you don't play towards the rebate you still get normally get around 10 dollars per ante atleast which is still good

[hasty harness]

*blind

well i mean higher stakes with less discards

its worse

but still really good

okay @balmy ridge i remember now

[languid pecan]

10 dollars per ante atleast if you aren't using hands as discards and only discarding twice, way more of you are

[hasty harness]

you need to play a hand of 5 gold cards

and then you unlock it

then to find it in future runs

[north schooner]

I tend to rank econ jokers by whether I would take rental versions of them. Rebate, (early) rocket, golden ticket, Midas mask, (late) faceless, non-eternal golden, cloud 9 if it's still 4 (or more)

[hasty harness]

you need at least 1 gold card in ur deck

[hasty harness]

yeah i always use hands as discards thats why it might be skewed for me

[north schooner]

Rental vagabond, absolutely

[hasty harness]

vagabond is good ppl hate on it 2 much

[north schooner]

Vagabond is arguably the best econ joker for ante 8 win

can't beat that deckfixing

[languid pecan]

Vagabond is great I literally never find it at a good time tho lol

[hasty harness]

dagger is my favorite econ joker 🤫

[languid pecan]

Same with obelisk

I always find obelisk when it's horrible for me

[inner thunder]

I HATE PLANTS

[balmy grail]

What's the best way to get rough gem? Erratic deck?

[hard silo]

Magic

[balmy grail]

Kk ty

[languid pecan]

Rough gem was my last gold sticker 🙁

[echo tartan]

more resources = more rerolls

[inner thunder]

#KILLALLNATURE #GLOBALWARMINGONX100
#LEFTONLYDESERT

[north schooner]

what the hell, this isn't photochad??

[hasty harness]

better hope u get those numbered hearts

i think u can maybe like tho

u have death

[languid pecan]

<@&1133519078540185692> idk?

[echo tartan]

no

[cursive lion]

nah its a joke

[hasty harness]

u guarantee at least one flush

[echo tartan]

it’s related to the plant

[balmy grail]

I had an oops bloodstone run, and the one time I needed smeared joker it just refused to show up

[cursive lion]

just venting their frustration with the plant boss blind

[inner thunder]

Nah it gives like 10000 each hand

[languid pecan]

Oh ok sorry for ping if it was a joke then

[balmy ridge]

septuple double tag 😭

[final viper]

😭

[hasty harness]

rip

[cursive lion]

at mods idk?

[languid pecan]

Sorry mods for ping I'm an idiot

[hasty harness]

needed them empress cards hm?

sad

oh also u dont have flush house or 5 levels nvm @inner thunder

for base mult

[balmy ridge]

quattuordecuple (i knew that and didnt google it)

[hasty harness]

yeah ur dead sorry 😭

[languid pecan]

I saw #globalwarming and didn't think of The Plant

If only I could unping 😮‍💨

[cursive lion]

#gottalovebigoil

[inner thunder]

It's time to generate 80000 ai pictures of sad women whose husband died and now they have to celebrate alone

[upper dove]

Fuckin purple stake man

Every time

[inner thunder]

Sora ai gonna give me the trophy of the top 1 user

[cursive lion]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1048362174734680085/1424009706841575485/20251001_1944_01k6hcdbysecqatpy8n4k1atce.mp4?ex=68f03ba2&is=68eeea22&hm=4f14d8459b868810a6c01e3d102628021aa7b98c2763845be85f8515b073759b&

[inner thunder]

Do any of y'all love fallout New Vegas? Better to, because I WILL turn the whole earth into it

[tacit stream]

Alternatively: Abandoned Deck solves your issues

[cursive lion]

new vegas? never heard of 'em

[hasty harness]

my stats r interesting 💀

[echo tartan]

not that interesting

[cursive lion]

if anyone is curious

[hasty harness]

i meant baron mime that much

[echo tartan]

i knew that

[floral mural]

farming endless isnt an interesting stat page tbh

[hasty harness]

i mean it makes sense since ive only done 4 gold stake decks done

[echo tartan]

exactly

[hasty harness]

yeah i got naninf and now im gonna start going for gold stake runs

[languid pecan]

supernova atleast...?

[hasty harness]

i wanna 100%

[floral mural]

there is an easy explanation here. naneinf attempts

[languid pecan]

i know lol

[floral mural]

plus the early game photochad addition every new player has

[hasty harness]

yeah lol

ive done 4 decks gold stake + naninf'd now

im gonna go gold stake all decks

[echo tartan]

oh i didn’t even see the photochad lol

[languid pecan]

chads never leaving my stats but i got photo out finally, its hovering in 11th place right now waiting to take mimes spot...

[inner thunder]

Me & Nestle CEO

[shell dagger]

stop

not you

[inner thunder]

And USSR government

[hasty harness]

im surprised pair isnt on here

288 pairs

[inner thunder]

And actually anyone who destroy ecology

[hasty harness]

ig i just got a lot of pair levels from burnt joker

[echo tartan]

why aren’t you a gambling addict

where

[hasty harness]

im a proud non wheel hitter

[floral mural]

tbf chads actually good unlike photo

[echo tartan]

🤢

[languid pecan]

agreed

[hasty harness]

chad is very good for a lot of different builds

[languid pecan]

the utility is insane

the best part is you dont even need joker synergies

even a single gold seal is crazy]

[ripe iris]

bloodstone just hit all 5 cards in a row

[hasty harness]

gold seal golden ticket :p

even just a chad and a lucky card is peak

[ripe iris]

i didnt even think that was even possible

[hasty harness]

i meant gold card

not golden ticket

my bad

[ripe iris]

no i was referring to this

[echo tartan]

wrong reply

[hasty harness]

my bad

[gaunt folio]

Do most black stake runs struggle to make it past ante 2 on purple stake or is that just me

[echo tartan]

well, 1/32, so pretty rare but for sure possible

[hasty harness]

can we naninf with only all oops 6s

[languid pecan]

bloodstone feel like a photo but youre forced to play a hearts flush

[hasty harness]

you mean black deck?

[languid pecan]

my expected value for bloodstone is ~2.25x

[gaunt folio]

Yes

[echo tartan]

yeah

[ripe iris]

i meant it as a joke because bloodstone for some reason only has a 1 in 4 chance to actually hit

[hasty harness]

people consider black deck one of the hardest decks so its not ur fault

probably

[languid pecan]

black deck is the hardest deck

[echo tartan]

yeah black deck has bad early game

[dry ether]

What is the most frustrating boss blind?

[gaunt folio]

I mean I knew it would be the final boss

Just not to this extent

I feel like jogo

[hasty harness]

yeah people were telling me plasma gold stake is harder then black gold stake

[echo tartan]

flint/hook/manacle imo

[hasty harness]

but ive beat plasma gold stake

[languid pecan]

almost all of them depending on the build

[hasty harness]

havent tried black gold stake tho

[languid pecan]

flint tho yeah

[tepid lotus]

Idk but I know plant is aggravating, but flint sucks too

[languid pecan]

we all hate the flint

[gaunt folio]

WHO??

Plasma is genuinely one of the easiest in the game imo

[hasty harness]

i was saying it was lowkey easy lol

i literally beat it on like almost my first run

got stuntman and akh'd it

pretty much won from that

[echo tartan]

not on gold, but otherwise yeah

[gaunt folio]

It is on gold tbh

[tepid lotus]

Sorry to intrude, but what’s the best placement for blueprint here?

Chad or sock

[echo tartan]

gotta land a hyper specific build

[ripe iris]

just picked up photograph on abandoned deck im too photochadpilled fuck me

[languid pecan]

trib i can almost guaruntee

[shell dagger]

The average run won’t get 500 chips like that so easily

[languid pecan]

put on sock tho for lucky cards

[ripe iris]

def sock

[gaunt folio]

Get one chip joker and you have usually almost solved the first few antes

[shell dagger]

Plasma deck is very high variance and for that reason it is among the most difficult

[naive jolt]

It's triboulet

[gaunt folio]

Or go for a high chip scaling planet

[ripe iris]

okay wtf is going on bloodstone just hit all 5 cards for the second time????

why is it locking in

[echo tartan]

that won’t net you a win on gold stake

[tepid lotus]

Alr thanks y’all

[languid pecan]

its making up for the future when it hits 0/5

[hasty harness]

idk i just feel like plasma is the easiest deck

imo

[gaunt folio]

I’m aware, but it carries you so you can focus on finding a long term option

[languid pecan]

nah

[ripe iris]

thats a very depressing but logical way to think about it

[echo tartan]

yellow

[languid pecan]

yellow deck and blue deck

are easy

[hasty harness]

yeah yellow is esay

and blue deck

because u start with more econ

[naive jolt]

Checkered is the easiest, you just flush it out

[echo tartan]

how is soul your top 6 used spectral

[languid pecan]

i like to forget checkered exists

[gaunt folio]

And on higher stakes you can just use the early game flush strength to pivot to pairs or high card

[naive jolt]

It's called being lucky
or maybe i rerolled a fuck ton

[shell dagger]

plasma midgame is rough if you switch to xmult and lategame is rough if you keep on chips, nearly every other deck is only hard earlygame

[languid pecan]

yeah wtf how have you used more souls that talismans

[hasty harness]

u mean rerolled and skipped for spectral packs?

[gaunt folio]

Except black deck. Black deck is suffering always

[naive jolt]

No for arcana, but yes

[languid pecan]

tf you mean reroll lol

[hasty harness]

yeah my bad

[naive jolt]

You just don't play the run

[worldly barn]

my boys

[naive jolt]

You do new run

[echo tartan]

holding r, i’m guessing

[hasty harness]

you just hold r

[gaunt folio]

But jokes aside black deck might be the best example

[naive jolt]

Until you get an arcana pack with soul

[naive jolt]

I'm on phone

[languid pecan]

holding r for arcana pack with soul sounds so depressing without brainstorm

[hasty harness]

why is half joker 5x stronger by cutting it in half

[naive jolt]

I need to do it manually

[gaunt folio]

If a run makes it past like ante 3 on black deck, it has the makings of a winning run 😭

[languid pecan]

that sounds like it would take an hour

[naive jolt]

I don't have the magic mod

[worldly barn]

the mult is stored in the jimbo

[naive jolt]

When i'm not lucky, yes

[languid pecan]

just get the brainstorm mod

[hasty harness]

bros bleeding out mult 😭

[naive jolt]

Some days i just get multiple in a day

[languid pecan]

youll get the mod sooner than it would take for you to hold r for a soul

[naive jolt]

Again, i'm on phone

[languid pecan]

why do you go for souls so much

[vocal rose]

why though

[naive jolt]

I'd have to actually port the mod

[vocal rose]

what are you trying to accomplish

[naive jolt]

Because it's funni ?

[languid pecan]

ok

[naive jolt]

Like literally for no other reason than the game is fun

I like the game, thanks localthunk

[vocal rose]

what are you trying to get with a soul

[naive jolt]

Soul aha noice

[gaunt folio]

What’s way more fun imo is actually strategizing and winning runs without legendaries

[naive jolt]

Doesn't matter
Everything but canio
I hate canio

[naive jolt]

I do it on white stake

I'm not someone that like sweating on gold

[gaunt folio]

That’s even weirder

[naive jolt]

I enjoy the chill life of white

Or black to be able to do funni stuff with spectral

[gaunt folio]

Maybe it’s because I have a couple hundred hours, but white stake is too free now

[naive jolt]

Or madness

[north schooner]

Despite playing anaglyph deck too long I always forget to look at the tags. This would have supercharged my hologram

[naive jolt]

Game doesn't track playtime but i'm also hundreds of hours in

[gaunt folio]

I just assume I have at least 200

[ripe iris]

i just hit a seltzer and oa6 bloodstone into the head which promptly killed me because i had horrible rng

[naive jolt]

And i don't have C++ yet
And i'm not bothered by it

[echo tartan]

lol 3x more

[ripe iris]

fml

[naive jolt]

I just have fun

[hard silo]

I’m the guy that likes to ride the kiddy rides

[signal frigate]

It does on steam

[hard silo]

:3

[tepid lotus]

Ik it’s not much but this is my first time getting an e

I was just trying to beat green stake

[gaunt folio]

I’ve been grinding c+ for a number of months now

[naive jolt]

For the 100th time
I'm on phone

[gaunt folio]

I’m finally on the last deck

[echo tartan]

guy plays on mobile

[signal frigate]

Ma'am, the bus has been driving for 3 weeks, you haven't gotten off your seat the entire time

[terse dock]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1415780753735680151

[echo tartan]

nice

[hard silo]

did you say bus ‼️

[signal frigate]

Depends on their phone, there could be an option to see it in the settings

[echo tartan]

true

[hard silo]

Maybe

[signal frigate]

Slay the Spire shows your playtime in-game which is what I like

So you can see it in Mobile too

[gaunt folio]

I watch so much Balatro content that I count it as semi-playtime

[naive jolt]

... That would assume i'd let my OS record what i do

[signal frigate]

Like this

110 hours ain't so bad

[gaunt folio]

I have sts, but my only complaint was that it was way too hard

[signal frigate]

Not necessarily, just like Balatro, it takes a few more playtime to understand it

[gaunt folio]

Never in any run did I get to a point where I felt like I was cruising

[signal frigate]

I've reached Ascension 20

Which is the Gold Stake of this game

[echo tartan]

4/5 of the games i play on steam are unironically roguelites

[gaunt folio]

I played a decent amount of sts and watched some content, and it was just annoying more than anything

[echo tartan]

lol

[gaunt folio]

It was a roguelike, but it didn’t have a lot of the fun things about roguelikes (mainly the insane synergies and big damage numbers being extremely rare)

[signal frigate]

It's incredibly addicting once you understand it

Also you have NO idea what you're talking about because the card synergies are literally what this game is all about.

[gaunt folio]

Idk man I never got to see hardly anything that felt like a batshit wild synergy

At most just the basic ones

[signal frigate]

I can help if you wanna get into it more

[ripe iris]

I JUST LOST BECAUSE I COULDNT DRAW A TWO PAIR

A TWO PAIR

[lunar zealot]

balatro lookin real weird today

[ripe iris]

AGAINST THE NEEDLE

3 DISCARDS

[lunar zealot]

yeah so play pairs

[ripe iris]

COULDNT DRAW A 2 PAIR

[north schooner]

Steel activates before groker, right?

[gaunt folio]

But it’s not like Balatro where it feels like everything fits together nicely (to me at least)

[ripe iris]

istg this game pisses me off so hard smtimes

[lunar zealot]

yeah so play pairs

[final garden]

do i take invisible here?

[lunar zealot]

<@&1133519078540185692> Crush his skull thank you

[gaunt folio]

It’s obviously a skill issue

[signal frigate]

It's more nuanced and specific I tell you that

[ripe iris]

well i had clever joker so i needed to play 2 pair for the chips

[signal frigate]

But I assure you, the game is just as addicting as Balatro

[signal frigate]

Like this

[vapid wing]

<@&1133519078540185692>

Nice

[signal frigate]

The thumbnail is wild ngl LMAO

[gaunt folio]

Yeah I think it just took a little too much experience and detailed knowledge to get ANYWHERE in comparison to a lot of roguelikes I’ve played if that makes sense

[final garden]

can someone answer this pls

[ripe iris]

im done with balatro for today

[vapid wing]

Its peak

[ripe iris]

this game lowkey pmo so much when the rng doesnt hit

[lunar zealot]

CRUSH HIS SKULL THANK YOU

[echo tartan]

no i wanted to block that guy

[lunar zealot]

oh it's already gone

[signal frigate]

It varies from person to person, it took me 80 hours to finally start consistently beat regular white stake Balatro you know

[vapid wing]

Real

[gaunt folio]

Fair, I think Balatro just managed to keep me engaged through the learning process better than sts

[signal frigate]

I understand that and that is 100% true lol

[vapid wing]

I love sts its a really hard game

[gaunt folio]

None of the characters felt right for me in sts either

The closest was automaton

[vapid wing]

I havent beaten ascention 20 with 80 hours in the game

[zinc willow]

Am I the only one attempting shit with Checkered deck?

[signal frigate]

I still recommend it though

[signal frigate]

Give it another shot

Maybe it'll change

[cedar shell]

what do we think about ante 1 coupon tag

[north schooner]

A: yes, yes it does

[gaunt folio]

I’ll give it a go when it cycles back into my interests

[grim thunder]

It took me 25 hours to get a naneinf, that's how powerful autism can be

[gaunt folio]

Real

[north schooner]

Ngl, this shop might have saved me long enough for some glass to break

[gaunt folio]

Balatro is really unique in terms of my interests

In the sense that it never truly has cycled out

Even after like half a year

[grim thunder]

It's just that good

[gaunt folio]

Usually my interests last around 2 months at most

Then it takes a random amount of months to cycle back

[echo tartan]

yeah same, i played balatro nonstop for like 3 months, and then isaac took over for it for a bit, and then hades 2 took over for about a week, and now i'm back

[gaunt folio]

Balatro stayed through all of my cycling interests actually

Like it’s been a background one

[serene forge]

I hate Baron

[grim thunder]

D:

[echo tartan]

well yeah i meant to say that i still played

[grim thunder]

But, the yuri...

[echo tartan]

but those things were more prevalent

[gaunt folio]

Yeah

[west vapor]

Weird way to propose

[gaunt folio]

AuDHD for me

[serene forge]

triple rentals,,

[north schooner]

endgame, and I had a rental rocket from ante 1 until I swapped it for glass

[serene forge]

<@&1133519078540185692>

[serene forge]

o

[serene forge]

most useful photograph

[dry ether]

Have you ever had a cavendish go extinct

[echo tartan]

no

[upper dove]

Where's the egg?

[west vapor]

I've had more Cavs go extinct than wheel procs

[echo tartan]

yeah i don't believe that

unless you actively avoid wheels

[grim thunder]

I would cry if that happens to me someday

[upper dove]

You miss 100% of the shots you don't take lmao

[west vapor]

Was supposed to be a joke at how low frequency wheel hits lmao

[dry ether]

I hate wheels.
Unless it gives a damn polychrome

[echo tartan]

foil is also good

[grim thunder]

I like wheels, it's quite useful when they give some chips

[echo tartan]

holo is the one i'm most often annoyed by

[dry ether]

Or a tarot card that gives a random joker casually giving me a fricking polychrome baseball like earlier today (I diidn't even have a voucher for the increased enhancement chance)

[north schooner]

Finally!

[echo tartan]

judgment is a little strong sometimes

[dry ether]

Or when you get a legendary joker from a card pack and it's just the one that turns off boss blinds

basically just a renewable luchador

[west vapor]

You mean the goat?

[zinc willow]

Alright im running unseeded am I totally cooked

[upper dove]

Chigoated

[dry ether]

I personally think it's weak compared to the other legendaries

[echo tartan]

stronger than trib

[dry ether]

Oh yeah trib is ass

[zinc willow]

Anybody?

[echo tartan]

yeah you are

[upper dove]

Time to give another chance to purple stake

[west vapor]

I haven't won a ton of runs solely due to one legendary. But I have not lost a ton of runs solely due to one legendary.

[dry ether]

My personal favourite legendary is perkeo, ESPECIALLY when paired with observatory and a crap ton of negative jupiter cards

[dry ether]

flushes

[zinc willow]

If i can get oops all 6's I can take it to atleast ante 11

[echo tartan]

bruh

[near sable]

Is this build any good?

[nocturne lotus]

anyone got any tips for gold stake nebula ive been trying to beat it for so long

[signal frigate]

I've been playing both games for a year

When I really like a game, I don't let it go

[uncut slate]

balatro made me old

[zinc willow]

Do I take 4 fingers?

[signal frigate]

It's Checkered deck

[echo tartan]

if you've got a single strong card, yes

[signal frigate]

You don't need it

[uncut slate]

might let you straight flushy

[zinc willow]

I've already got telescope, so free upgrade with celestial pack?

[uncut slate]

also how do we have $7 in ante 5

what did we do

[signal frigate]

Well there's better ways to scale your hand than Four Fingers

[uncut slate]

the straight flushy though

it's so funny

[broken spear]

you just started playing

[signal frigate]

Shortcut is probably better for that

[zinc willow]

You've never steered me wrong Ray. Guess ill hold my cash

[dry ether]

Yes.

[uncut slate]

four fingers straight flushes are brazy though

[signal frigate]

It's easy enough to play flush in a deck that's all about flushing

[broken spear]

XD

[serene forge]

I hate BLoodstone

[broken spear]

i have 30h in play 5

[signal frigate]

Also, you need to get that econ checked

[zinc willow]

Really wanted to go straight flushes but I'd need like 15 death and hangman each

[signal frigate]

There's still shortcut

[uncut slate]

four fingers means you don't really need any deckfixing on checkered

to straight flush

[zinc willow]

Shortcut...

[signal frigate]

I mean if you want that, it's not a bad way to go at it

But your econ is not great

You needa fix that first

[uncut slate]

i never get to play straight flushes so i get excited at the opportunity

[cedar shell]

i highkey hate straights with a passion

[signal frigate]

It's a very hard hand to get online but pretty rewarding yeah

[uncut slate]

they always betray me

[cedar shell]

anyways what are we talking about

[uncut slate]

you'll be having a pretty good run and then totally whiff a straight draw and go cry

[signal frigate]

I overuse it

[cedar shell]

i hate straights but i also love four fingers straight flush builds

[signal frigate]

You can calculate the odds based on what's in your deck

[frank light]

its the most unreliable hand to draw

[dry ether]

My favourite common joker

[frank light]

but theyre so powerful

[spring dragon]

Could the showman make souls appear twice?

[uncut slate]

i mean the kind of thing where you draw four sequential cards naturally and can't find a fifth in 3 discards 3 hands

[cedar shell]

theoretically yeah

[spring dragon]

How does one send gifs?

[echo tartan]

yeah theoretically

[signal frigate]

Straights scale really well

[dry ether]

Tenor?

[jovial stratus]

Hey guys, can you explain me how Baseball Card works? If I have 4 uncommon jokers, does it do mult (e.g. 10) * 1.5 * 1.5 * 1.5 * 1.5 = 50.625 or is it mult (e.g 10) * (4 * 1.5) = 60?

[echo tartan]

the first one

[uncut slate]

specifically it applies when the joker is scored

[tranquil cargo]

each uncommon joker does x1.5 when scoring

[cedar shell]

x1.5^4

so the first

[signal frigate]

First one scores

[uncut slate]

so if you have multiple jokers adding mult it gets unintuitive

but it's still strong

[cedar shell]

tenor is (rightfully) blocked how did you send that

[dry ether]

What.
Oh yeah I downloaded the gif and uploaded it

[jovial stratus]

Ok, so in my case, it would be better than acrobat, right?

[dry ether]

annoying, but it flags links

[spring dragon]

As a mobile man, fuck.

[zinc willow]

RAYYYYYYYY

Im cooking

[spring dragon]

Chill Finn

[echo tartan]

yes

[jovial stratus]

Alright, thanks, still new to balatro 🙂

[echo tartan]

👍

hope you're having fun

[zinc willow]

Im a spaz, most aren't like me, dont assume the worst of the community. Great people here

[hasty harness]

easiest gold stake win ever

[jovial stratus]

I'm used to worse, you didn't even catch my eye...

[hasty harness]

went from card sharp pairs and just stumbled into mime baron

[spring dragon]

I'm great people 🙂

[hasty harness]

💀

[zinc willow]

You are @spring dragon

[echo tartan]

🟢❓

[hasty harness]

🤫

dont expose me

[spring dragon]

I'm gonna expose you

[hasty harness]

💔

[echo tartan]

🆗

[hasty harness]

no longer my favorite legendary

[spring dragon]

NVM I WAS KIDDING

[hasty harness]

canio was my first legendary

thats why i like it lol

[hasty harness]

plus i got it when i had para, trading card, and found an idol later lol

was a fun run

okay jokes aside im starting to grind decks after naninfing

to get gold stake on each deck

and the game gave me ts 💀

im tired of naninf bro

💔

[echo tartan]

pluto still my most used consumable from back when i was going for naneinf

[hasty harness]

mime + blue seals will do that 2 u

[hasty harness]

wth 💀

[hard silo]

Oh a seeded account

[lunar zealot]

BBC MY GOAT

[spring dragon]

You're fun at parties, aren't ya?

[zinc karma]

Wtf

Hows that run rn?

[hard silo]

I say what I see what can I say

[zinc karma]

How?

[dry ether]

I hope your cavendish goes extinct

[echo tartan]

the speculative oops is now holographic

[spring dragon]

Im glad you asked

[marsh dove]

Canio goated

[hard silo]

Seeded runs

[marsh dove]

It’s like if yorick played interestingly

[hard silo]

Pretty much

[spring dragon]

@zinc karma

[zinc karma]

Didnt know seeds counted