🕹・game-discussion

[burnt topaz]

Yeah

Left for me to red stake:
Magic
Zodiac
Anaglyph
Plasma

[hardy fable]

ik it's about your favorite but how can you actually like bloodstone

[burnt topaz]

What do I do next

[hardy fable]

zodiac

[shell dagger]

Plasma

[cedar shell]

anaglyph

[north spindle]

i mean
if beta bloodstone was on the list id pick it over the others

[cedar shell]

exactly how i feel about stuntman

[somber nebula]

black deck

[burnt topaz]

I already red staked black

[hardy fable]

I'm a 51x joker!

[burnt topaz]

I’m asking out of the 4 options

[somber nebula]

*gold

thats the easiest deck

[burnt topaz]

Gold deck?

[somber nebula]

gold stake

[north spindle]

downpatch for level 0 high card

[burnt topaz]

I’m asking what do I red stake next

[hardy fable]

you're setting them up for failure 🙏

[white coral]

Hey yall quick,

Does mime retrigger blackboard

[hardy fable]

no

[white coral]

damn thx

[somber nebula]

🥲 , +1 joker slot without downsides fr

[hardy fable]

uhh sure sure

[shell dagger]

0x is the minimum (taking stuntman with 1 or 2 hand size)

[burnt topaz]

It doesn’t matter I already red staked black

[hardy fable]

minimum but Im always max fr fr

[burnt topaz]

I mean there’s a 3 way tie

Ima just do this

[pale wolf]

did it actually have less scoring

[burnt topaz]

Magic was the last deck I white staked I think

So if it’s also the last I red stake that’s funny

[pale wolf]

true...

[sly coral]

i need a random deck and a random stake

[burnt topaz]

Purple stake nebula deck

[sly coral]

i hate nebula but sure

[north spindle]

i think so?

[pale wolf]

the lowest non-zero is probably on rich get richer

actually idk what I'm thinking

[north spindle]

i mean its steel (king) cards right

since with the right setup you're losing several OoM per handsize lost

[burnt topaz]

I’m just gonna do plasma

[pale wolf]

true its arbitrarily small considering copies of baron/mime/stm

[north spindle]

i mean considering the number limit there is a bound

which i think should be the cube root of the float limit? with a small rounding error

[cedar shell]

vagabond really only be showing up shop 1 of yellow deck runs huh

[north spindle]

perfect time for it still

[burnt topaz]

I’m stupid but I love this

[modern panther]

I can't afford to take it, right?

[north spindle]

nebula deck is the only one where vagabond has problems imo

[cedar shell]

you can do anything you set your mind to

[north spindle]

if ypu dont need it rn then i wouldn't bother
i would take devil tho ofc

[night turret]

Question, how does this help you in any way? I’ve always wondered what deck and how you would use it for

[zinc karma]

Im coming

[shell dagger]

@north spindle @pale wolf this is quite a decrease i think

[burnt topaz]

Shocking nobody, relying on 2 seances for your entire run doesn’t work.

[shell dagger]

Can probably fiddle around with hand levels and baron/mime ratio to get it closer to naneinf

[night turret]

What’s that far left joker

[burnt topaz]

The fact that I got to ante 3 shocked me

[north spindle]

...i forgot that the card you played wouldn't be baroned lol

[burnt topaz]

Onyx Agate

+7 mult for clubs

[zinc karma]

Onyx agate

[cedar shell]

survivorship bias strikes again

[pale wolf]

it only makes 1 tarot a hand anyways

[shell dagger]

It ruins telescope

[north spindle]

not being able to hold them still hurts a ton

[wintry ice]

it's for when you're not scoring enough for the ante and need more time to scale

[somber nebula]

we have stuntman in home:

[pale wolf]

more rounds, more shops, more hands if used late enough

and yea lowers current scoring requirements if you're that desperate

[plain salmon]

I FINALLY BEAT BLACK DECK

[north spindle]

i mean yeah its 3 extra shops

is the biggest thing

[plain salmon]

i love straight builds so much, idk why but theyre the most fun to me

[north spindle]

imo "lowers scoring requirements" is also basically always the relevant point and sort of the same thing as 3 extra shops

[pale wolf]

I think it's pretty rare to have the money to spare for the voucher and also not the scoring potential tbh

[north spindle]

its one of the vouchers that can pay for itself

i mean probably dont bankrupt urself for it

also dependant on what else u have ofc

[burnt topaz]

What do I do here?

Straight is level 2, straight flush level 1

[glass creek]

straight

[cedar shell]

straight

[shell dagger]

Probably copy odd todd

[somber nebula]

copy odd

[cedar shell]

todd has you on chips

[river slate]

ty showman

[glass creek]

yeah odd todd

[burnt topaz]

Copy odd and play the 4 cards currently selected +the 9?

[river slate]

nvm i love you showman

[pale wolf]

bye lusty

[north spindle]

showman is so goofy. why is it

[pale wolf]

it is so

[twin lantern]

i can still imagine bloodstone whiffing even after dice

[north spindle]

1.0 bloodstone

it had a 1/3 chance but 2x mult

[cosmic seal]

LUSTY

[twin lantern]

it'll still happen trust

[cosmic seal]

LOOOL

[north spindle]

and then beta bloodstone my beloved with 1/2 chance and 2x mult

[zinc karma]

I messed up SO BAD trying to save my seltzer... I didnt see it was a boss reroll...

[cosmic seal]

ballot 2x face

[north spindle]

i mean its probably fair that it got taken down a peg bc it was like
extremely strong but i still want it back

[river slate]

the mega photochad?

[burnt topaz]

I don’t know

I wanna keep a balance of suits for smeared pot

[cosmic seal]

omg

[burnt topaz]

Sorry balance of colors

[cosmic seal]

Smeared Pot

[burnt topaz]

Yes that’s what I’m choosing to call this

[cosmic seal]

never thought of that

[zinc karma]

Helll yeah

Fuck crimson

[cosmic seal]

flush smooth brain

[zinc karma]

I started with agate, black board and neg brainstorm

Had no choice

[burnt topaz]

Fair enough

Well you should celebrate and go to the club ba dum tss

[river slate]

i hate my life

[somber nebula]

rip blue joker, welcome cooler blue joker

[twin lantern]

screw bloodstone 🔥🔥🗣️

[twin lantern]

wow that's a rip

[rugged bloom]

Lmfao

[somber nebula]

best starting joker i can imagine

[cedar shell]

i love stm

unfortunately i have now hit the plant

its over

luchador save me

[spiral cairn]

yo

ok

[rugged bloom]

i finished ante 2 just now lol

[spiral cairn]

there is something

definitely wrong

with my rng

[rugged bloom]

but still very nice

[spiral cairn]

yesterday i lost cavendish in literally one round

here i lost it in literally 2

its been 2 rounds

and its already gone

[cedar shell]

pov riff raff

[spiral cairn]

what kinda

[somber nebula]

ok 2nd best

[plain salmon]

finally beating black deck means ive now officially beten all decks on gold stake... go me!!!

[cedar shell]

michele

[north spindle]

i think its worse than 2nd best
like i think id rather have a lot of econ/scaling over that

[rugged bloom]

one of my best runs ever started off with chad then photo

[cedar shell]

michele and popcorn both solo the first ante basically, but michele doesnt fall off in the same way unless it just up and dies

[pale wolf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1387860177939726448/1403122996796854423/2025080723021400-EE327B3F1EA16B12FE45F55BCABC4BD6.mov?ex=68ef64df&is=68ee135f&hm=f2070a76d1b97b36c8682a967a2fde8ccb4941d59a49a08df5113508cb3b7bac&

[rugged bloom]

LMFAO Hallucination just gave me two hermits in a row

[cedar shell]

streamer luck ahh

[plain salmon]

i love when i randomly get 40 moneys

[fervent umbra]

the eternal egg

[plain salmon]

or even better if i have 7 and i get two hermits or a hermit and a food and i go up to 28, feels good

[fervent umbra]

you will never be able to sell it

[plain salmon]

fool*

[burnt topaz]

This is difficult, (Straight build with runner at +30)

[fervent umbra]

it just takes up a joker slot and gains money for temperance

[cedar shell]

temperance

[pale wolf]

knew i shouldve played blue deck

[plain salmon]

i love straight builds, theyre so fun to me for some reason

[burnt topaz]

What do I do tho

I don’t know what to get rid of

Everything has been pulling its weight

[cedar shell]

senor please save me from the plant

[plain salmon]

you get rid of the smeared and get the order

[fervent umbra]

idk why but that neg faceless joker made me thing of end from green mountain

[burnt topaz]

But then flowerpot becomes a lot more difficult to proc

I mean I’m already getting x3 anyways

Eh it’s fine

[plain salmon]

you could probably get rid of pot for the order instead and go straight flush build

[burnt topaz]

Not an option

[plain salmon]

why?

[burnt topaz]

Straight is 6 levels above straight flush (8-2) and my deck is not fixed for suits whatsoever, I’ve had flower pot for like the entire run

[somber nebula]

single debuffed stone card won that

[shell dagger]

It’s plasma, once you’ve switched to xmult, chips become useless

So get rid of runner

Then todd

[plain salmon]

well thats why you keep smeared, but the levels are a bit of an issue yeah

[fervent umbra]

beautifle castle scaling

i cant spell lol

[burnt topaz]

I’ve already swapped out smeared for order but do I buy dusk?

[shell dagger]

Just keep playing flower pot straights

[burnt topaz]

I have no +mult tho

[somber nebula]

bc black stake is one stake before -1 discard

[plain salmon]

i dont see a reason to, unless youve got gold seals

[drowsy hinge]

Istg I better manage

[burnt topaz]

So chips are the main thing

[drowsy hinge]

One of the luckiest starts ever for a Nan run

[shell dagger]

That’s what the planets are for

[drowsy hinge]

Missing red seals tho

[shell dagger]

Don’t try playing a hybrid chips + mult build

It’s so inefficient on plasma

[somber nebula]

now you wont get paint brush and palette for whole run

[fervent umbra]

i lost all my progress on my main save file so i gotta start over (i havent even gotten past green stake tho so its just my collection and unlocked jokers that im upset about)

[misty atlas]

shouldnt this combo make it if you play a club diamond pair it should x3?

[burnt topaz]

Clearly swapping out smeared for order is fine

[burnt topaz]

Just had that pair, you need at least 2 of each color

I call it smeared pot

[plain salmon]

i guess i die next round unless i get something amazing

[somber nebula]

you need 4 cards

[fervent umbra]

blank and antimatter my beloved (also nan inf potential!??? get rid of the loyalty card and ur set)

[misty atlas]

gotcha

[umbral coyote]

Each card can only count for one of the suits

[burnt topaz]

So diamond diamond club club works, not just diamond club

[misty atlas]

ty peeps

[umbral coyote]

Works like that for wilds too

[fervent umbra]

poly heaven

[cedar shell]

might have to bust out the ghost deck bc i just cant find xmult

[pale wolf]

silly game, i didnt expect to win just wanted to see how far these 3 go

[cedar shell]

or just constantly make luckies and glass

[misty atlas]

did spade spade heart diamond and it worked ty

[pale wolf]

buffoon tag could save the run if there was xmult though

[burnt topaz]

No…..

[rugged bloom]

Rental Perishable Smiley Face

I sell it

[burnt topaz]

I don’t know what I should even do right now

[rugged bloom]

Comes back as just Rental

Maybe if I sell it and reroll next time it'll show up pure

That's how it works right

[burnt topaz]

It comes back eternal and rental

[fervent umbra]

this is why i play flushes

always reliable

[fervent umbra]

straights are a last resort

[wintry ice]

5 cards for 1 more mult than pairs

[burnt topaz]

This is my greed for trying to keep my blue seal and steel card

[wintry ice]

insane hand

[pale wolf]

wtf im not supposed to lose

[rugged bloom]

I might be misremembering but I once saw an Eternal Rental Egg

[fervent umbra]

delusion

[burnt topaz]

I didn’t need to have either the steel or the blue seal I was good enough

My only hope is that I get the +20 mult on the lucky ace all 3 triggers

1 in 125 chance I might have a chance

[pale wolf]

just because of that, I'm full skipping

[fervent umbra]

only if its ante 1 with plasma deck

[shell dagger]

Playing the bonus 9 is more score even if all luckies hit

[somber nebula]

ouija dont troll 😖

[fervent umbra]

all aces

[fervent umbra]

damn

[somber nebula]

"holding r"

[final garden]

second gold stake win

the eroision was a nat negative

[shell dagger]

Erosion hologram best synergy

[final garden]

i just took it since it was negative

if it wasnt bro wouldnt be there

[rugged bloom]

Oh Jeez

[shell dagger]

Yesssss golden joker

[final garden]

id take golden and either 8 ball or bloodstone

[uncut slate]

erosion should give -mult

[somber nebula]

golden

[final garden]

baron is a trap this early

[wanton loom]

rip just lost a soul card cause i forgot it wasnt a mega arcana pack

[uncut slate]

also what is that build why is sixes here

[final garden]

pain

[uncut slate]

oops all sixes

[final garden]

lucky cards

imma send a pic of my deck rq

[fervent umbra]

negative ocunters eternal cuz it doesent take up a joker slot

[fervent umbra]

lucky cards my beloved

[uncut slate]

silly deck

[fervent umbra]

glass is good too

[uncut slate]

was this a flush build?

or flush house?

[final garden]

considering i had both droll and tribe what do you think

it was just regular flush

[uncut slate]

well it could maybe have been a good build

good hand*

[final garden]

it was level 17 flush thanks to telescope

[burnt topaz]

Turns out my best hand is the 9 which doesn’t help me

[wintry ice]

i'd take 8 ball because golden covers the rental cost

[fervent umbra]

i usually do flush but if the run is going good ill upgrade to flush house or flush 5

[rugged bloom]

Anticipatory OOPS

[fervent umbra]

i just feel like its better for long term

[rugged bloom]

at ante 1

[final garden]

i chose spades mainly bc thats what i got from sigil

[uncut slate]

flush is hard to scale so yes flush house/five are better long term

[final garden]

i saw a bloodstone in the shop but i was already focused on spades

[fervent umbra]

i choose spades cuz its my favorite suit

we are not the same

[wintry ice]

flush doesn't carry over that well long term because you can't easily play it multiple times per round without deckfixing and it doesn't have the scaling to justify that

[final garden]

for ante 8 theyre a good option

they just fall off in endless

[wintry ice]

so pivoting to flush house is valid in that case

[brazen wigeon]

Finally got my first win on erratic deck

[uncut slate]

they fall off by ante 8 most of the time

[royal shale]

Flush is pretty bad for A8 still

[wintry ice]

they depend on specific jokers on higher stakes

[fervent umbra]

counter opinion

[wintry ice]

if you don't have agate, arrowhead or ancient joker you're better off playing pairs or 4oak

[wintry ice]

1 seed on 1 deck isn't a good point

[uncut slate]

erratic doesn't count as deckfixing 11head

[wintry ice]

besides, you'd rather play flush 5 on it

which doesn't really prove your point

[uncut slate]

I would use ancient joker if the art didn't look like that

[fervent umbra]

yeah but

[uncut slate]

he gives me bad vibes

[fervent umbra]

full deck of 10 of spades

[uncut slate]

what is he going to do to me

you literally can't play a flush with that deck

[wintry ice]

that is a rare possibility

[uncut slate]

there is no combination of cards to allow it

so how is that a good point whatsoever

[royal shale]

counter counter opinion: they suck and I'm qualified to say that

[final garden]

huh?

[pale wolf]

this game is so easy

[uncut slate]

gaming.

[royal shale]

that's my game. I think they suck.

[fervent umbra]

looks like i lose

[uncut slate]

heterosexual

[drowsy hinge]

Negative skips not worth tight?

[drowsy hinge]

Was think of doing spectral skip for a chance at Deja vu

[uncut slate]

negative skip gives you three blueprints dw

[shell dagger]

Only voucher

But you’ve got the main ones

So it’s whatever

[uncut slate]

three. blueprints.

[cedar shell]

ante 3 riff raff?

[fervent umbra]

neg skips always worth i will neg skip untill i die

[cedar shell]

hear me out

[pale wolf]

i thought blue seals were supposed to be good, is this discord stupid

[uncut slate]

the bus is at 8 😭

[thick mountain]

lol wut

[final garden]

seed

there was a perishable rental blueprint in one of the shops

[cedar shell]

i keep seeing you send clips where youre just in immense debt

[daring perch]

#1156061354076155944

[final garden]

forgot that existed

[thick mountain]

Gotta get that Econ up.

[pale wolf]

money doesnt score

[uncut slate]

nah the blinds just chicken out when they see my stacks

[thick mountain]

Money buys you the ability to score more lol.

[pale wolf]

tell.me how 100 dolar make me win there

[uncut slate]

i score 40 points but naneinf standing on business

[thick mountain]

Money is like one of the biggest priorities.

[autumn forge]

What do you think of this: a joker that triggers jokers BEFORE scoring your hand?

[thick mountain]

Could have spent more on shop building a better joker line up and deck fixing.

[pale wolf]

it is an idea

[fervent umbra]

would be a welcome edition

wait

[final garden]

gets you the ability to get better non ass jokers

[pale wolf]

on my run it was low priority because of the topth

[uncut slate]

what do you think if this: a joker that gains 0.25x mult every time a playing card is added to your deck

[pale wolf]

but im playing the round i cant buy jokers

[thick mountain]

Econ is never low priority.

[fervent umbra]

sounds like a holo that would gram

[autumn forge]

Feel like it would make certain jokers more viable long-term

Like the erosion run I had earlier today for example

[wintry ice]

on scoring jokers would be way better if they took place after scaling mult

[thick mountain]

Outside of like white stake multiplayer econ is always important.

[wintry ice]

even in multiplayer

[uncut slate]

my dad has hollowgram rims on his bike

[wintry ice]

you want money to outscore your opponent

[drowsy hinge]

Not taking this soul is so pain

[wintry ice]

specially since the scoring requiement will usually be way higher because of that

[drowsy hinge]

Sup gang

[pale wolf]

im not so sure a bunch of useless money is gonna be more helpful than skipping for a shop full of free stuff for no money

[drowsy hinge]

U helped me get nanienf last time

[thick mountain]

lol keep losing then

[night turret]

I love it when my blueprint joker copies my blue print

[pale wolf]

i win a lot i have over 5 gold wons

[thick mountain]

Useless money is the funniest thing I’ve heard in a minute

[uncut slate]

it should let me pop the soul and it just doesn't do anything if the legendary isn't nat negative

[drowsy hinge]

This time I’m doing it without brainstorm mod

[pale wolf]

when you cant spend the money cuz everything is free

[shell dagger]

Money is useless in ante 8 boss blind unless you have 1 of 2 jokers

[thick mountain]

What are you even talking about lmao

[pale wolf]

ever heard of a coupon tag, genius
and you say you win a lot

[atomic forum]

poly rtb is probably the nicest looking poly card

[rugged bloom]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[pale wolf]

yea and it disables vagglebond

[final garden]

alot of the polychrome dont look too bad

negatives are more hit and miss

some look good or some look like complete ass

[thick mountain]

lol 100% the game and over 20 naneinf unseeded. You’re right. Shame on me for understanding basic fundamentals.

[quartz ember]

rebate in next shop trust

[fervent umbra]

oh well. take it.

[atomic forum]

two wheels hit in a row and both poly damn

too bad it hit the credit card

[burnt topaz]

I’ve committed to chips this run, I think this is finally the one

[pale wolf]

how can you 100% the game and not know about coupon tag

[thick mountain]

Because skipping is bad lmao.

[vagrant dawn]

true

[uncut slate]

they should add the wheel of fish

[atomic forum]

coupon tag is great ante 1

[wintry ice]

coupon is meh ante 1

[rugged bloom]

What would it do?

[pale wolf]

its this one

[thick mountain]

You’re skipping for free stuff you don’t get to choose what it is rather than have enough money to re roll and find what you actually need. Is this a troll?

[terse vale]

i’ve never taken it

I don’t like skipping shops in ante one unless its investment

thats the only thing i’d skip for

[wintry ice]

yea

[atomic forum]

wtf is this a glitched seed how do i keep getting poly from a wheel, 3 times in a row

[pale wolf]

i win easily over 1 out of a hundred runs

[thick mountain]

Voucher skip in endless is good too.

[rugged bloom]

Are you serious

[terse vale]

the shop the coupon hits isn’t guaranteed to be great anyways

[uncut slate]

wheel of fish:

[wintry ice]

15$ of completely random value is just

meh

[pale wolf]

using the power of coupon tags and d6 tags

[uncut slate]

the coupon will have the eternal rental that saves the run

[thick mountain]

Math checks out

[wintry ice]

about what

[pale wolf]

i read that thunk said a 1% winning percentage is very good for gold stake

[rugged bloom]

So basically the same as Wheel of Fortune

[rugged bloom]

Already in debt from Rental Blueprint and all the other jokers are ALSO Rental

[sly coral]

aww mine is like 0.72%

[thick mountain]

I’m dead

[wintry ice]

i'd have taken rocket instead

rentals are usually death on ante 1

[pale wolf]

That's one out of every 72 thats good

[sly coral]

tyy

that made me feel better

[uncut slate]

do you want to keep that red snapper you have, or take what's in the box??

[sly coral]

wee might go crazy here

[rugged bloom]

wait what

1% is 1 out of 100

how would 0.72% be 1 out of 72

[sly coral]

math is right

[wintry ice]

humor

[rugged bloom]

ah

[uncut slate]

bait used to be believable

[thick mountain]

lol got me tbh

[burnt topaz]

My 3 attempts at red staking plasma today.

[thick mountain]

But a lot of people do not seem to understand the power of money in balala

[wintry ice]

as seen from people skipping the first small blind instead of taking hand money

[tawdry burrow]

If I'm feeling daring I skip small blinds if they don't give reward money

[wintry ice]

i only skip them if i actually get something from skipping

[heady narwhal]

fun fact: c++ is supposed to take 6,000+ runs to complete

[thick mountain]

Bingo

[wintry ice]

seeing 1 more shop early on is way better than like

a random uncommon

[rugged bloom]

Horrendous pull on Ante 1 😭

[spiral cairn]

you have to be diddling me

[rugged bloom]

Ig I'll go with runner + fist

[wintry ice]

runner is great for plasma

[tawdry burrow]

Debt

[spiral cairn]

i sold a dna already

dont need it

[heady narwhal]

runner is great in general

[wintry ice]

yeah

[spiral cairn]

anyone need a dna

take

[thick mountain]

Straights are good

[sly coral]

YSFK2K56 can anyone try this seed on gold stake plasma, ik i suck at plasma but idk maybe its not really my fault and seed might be hard

[rugged bloom]

As someone unstraight, how dare you >:( /j

[formal abyss]

investment tag is fire tho

[wintry ice]

it is

[formal abyss]

but ngl id prefer it on big blind

not playing a1 small blind feels wrong

[rugged bloom]

as someone who had two consecutive runs on Purple and Orange stakes CARRIED by Hack + Wee joker, Wee is goated

[wintry ice]

skipping small blind is riskier but more profitable

[thick mountain]

Bahahaha rip

[formal abyss]

honestly chad is much stronger if you have hands to spare

[atomic forum]

why do i get this busted ass stuff when im just trying to get last few gold stickers

though if it has naneinf potential then its worth sacrificing a sticker

i doubt it has it but who knows

[rugged bloom]

I have no words

[thick mountain]

Un straights p good too. Should have let me finish smh

[atomic forum]

i could probably sell the square joker but it could be throwing the run

[zinc karma]

Seems useful

[wintry ice]

i'd sell wrathful instead

[drowsy hinge]

Is a second ecto worth?

[zinc karma]

Probably not

[sly coral]

second ecto doesnt really matter so no

[zinc karma]

U may want to throw that dna

Maybe for a showman or a invisible

[autumn forge]

Also, I'm sure localthunk already has a plan for a 7 themed joker

But if not I think some sort of interaction with lucky 7 cards would be cool

[sly coral]

7's that give planet cards of your most played hand w 1/3 chance

[autumn forge]

Like, roll once for each possible effect

[autumn forge]

Nah I specifically mean interact only with 7 cards that have been made lucky

That feels on theme to me

Or like, one of the lucky effects always triggers

[sly coral]

yea ik it was my own idea

[autumn forge]

Ahhh fair

Also a neat idea

[sly coral]

aw ty

[sly coral]

maybe a bit too op for lucky cat

[autumn forge]

The lucky 7 idea would mean there's two conditions needing met to trigger it. One, you own the joker, and two you have to make your 7s lucky

[wintry ice]

dna is effectively blacklisted

[vestal fern]

perished luchador's just there atp

[autumn forge]

Which I think means the effect can be a little bit OP

[wintry ice]

cause it has an edition

[sly coral]

it can maybe change the 7 lucky odds rather than making them guaranteed

[wintry ice]

it's good if you want to go further than ante 32

which is very difficult even with the second ecto

[sly coral]

maybe both mult and money can turn to 1/7

i feel like it would make it balanced but would be waste of joker slot too

idk if its a good idea

[mild scaffold]

Ahhh god I'm losing rounds like a fool, getting so greedy

[autumn forge]

Not if I only triggers on 7 cards tho

Base deck that's only 4 guaranteed hits, assuming you manage to make all 4 lucky AND play them in one round

[rugged bloom]

Very useful Ankh

[autumn forge]

So it would take a lot of deck fixing to break it

[atomic forum]

dont screw it up like i did trying to pivot hc FZQAPLFM

this is so painful

invisible joker ended up being useless too

[buoyant ridge]

are we cooked ?

[sly coral]

what do u think about the 1/7 idea

[serene forge]

raised ankh

[buoyant ridge]

btw why are straights so terrible ?

[glass creek]

i prefer playing gays

[cloud sinew]

is this for a new player? or like, overall across the entire playerbase

[pale wolf]

idk i read it

[manic talon]

I LOVE BLOODSTONE GRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

[pale wolf]

i think maybe it mightve been lost in translation

[manic talon]

surely the gold stake win rate on average is atleast 20%

[cloud sinew]

time to go for my 2nd win for the green deck streak

[manic talon]

or atleast 2 digits

[cloud sinew]

im doing painted on mobile

[pale wolf]

that seems high

[cloud sinew]

i think across the whole playerbase its probably like 10%

[soft trout]

they're... not bad?
they have pretty good scaling for the difficulty to make them

it's just that the -1 discard from blue stake encourages playing straights less than pairs

[manic talon]

like 1% is so low you can just get insane run without the need to think more than 1% of the time

[sly coral]

nah maybe like %6 getting access to gold stake is easy

[serene forge]

they are not

[buoyant ridge]

but on gold stake its terrible with black deck.. especially when you hit the mark

[pale wolf]

only 12% of the player base even beats gold stake once, max

and I suspect that steam has the highest percentage of this

[serene forge]

everything is terrible with black deck tbf

[cloud sinew]

better players play gold stake more, and are more likely to win at gold stake, which would skew the data to a higher % which is why I think it's like 10%

[soft trout]

you mean the infamously difficult deck?

[buoyant ridge]

jep im playing this because its the most skill based deck

[cloud sinew]

black deck isnt a fair scenario to evaluate straights in because black deck sucks for everything already

[sly coral]

pairs are terrible when u dont have more than 1 of a kind of a card and especially when u get the eye on plasma deck

[cloud sinew]

i think its the least skill based deck because it's more RNG dependant. the most skill-based deck(s) are the ones that remove as much dependance on RNG as possible (blue/yellow)

[soft trout]

???

[serene forge]

id say abandoned/zodiac is pretty skill based

[soft trout]

in what world do you not get pairs

[sly coral]

in my prepared scenario

[soft trout]

you'd have to like go out of your way to make them not possible

[pale wolf]

sometimes you only have 1 of each rank

if you get relly unlucky on erratic

[serene forge]

so true

[soft trout]

with some bp bstorm perkeo shit

[buoyant ridge]

but black deck its the most skill based or ? like if you can beat it consistently on gold stake you are like dr spectred

[sly coral]

dr spectred is more than that

[pale wolf]

nobody can beat it consistently on gold stake

[cloud sinew]

the most ive streaked on black was like

4

[pale wolf]

the cutoff of winrate for consistency is subjective but doc loses streaks on black deck

[soft trout]

drspectred recently had a seed he couldn't beat on the first try

guess what deck it was

[sly coral]

red

[pale wolf]

probly golden needle deck

[sly coral]

red deck red stake

[soft trout]

but yeah uh

black deck is so different from the usual game that i wouldn't use it to base skill on

[sly coral]

zodiac is the best deck

[pale wolf]

better than my nebula streak

[soft trout]

skill is about your decision making and stuff

[burnt topaz]

I’m gonna be starting a Balatro deck league, where I pit all the decks against each other in a 3 division of 5 league with an 8 team bracket in the end. Place your bets on what deck you think will win

[cloud sinew]

blue

[buoyant ridge]

thats insane, im only winning on black like 1 in 50 runs

[cedar shell]

anaglyph is my pick to win but it's gonna be erratic on a good day or ghost

[bleak blaze]

Yay first gold stake run with Marble Joker

[cloud sinew]

i have almost 900 hours in this game tbf, black deck is ridiculously hard. compared to my other streaks, i've streaked up to 13 on checkered deck and ive streaked 15 wins in a row by rotating decks

only getting up to 4 on black deck shows how hard it is

[buoyant ridge]

and i cant even get a 2 streak, is this skill issue ?

[bleak blaze]

Black Deck Gold Stake took me 3 days opposed to 1-2 hours for other decks

[drowsy hinge]

Naaa I’m so close just need to filter out these gold cards and it’s sorted

[buoyant ridge]

everything is so complicated in this game

[cloud sinew]

its a skill issue but its an expected one. the game is very hard and takes a long time to get good at

[burnt topaz]

I will be updating you guys on every match, maybe I’ll make a thread for it just I don’t know which channel

[sly coral]

zodiac deck is gonna win

[drowsy hinge]

I’ve been playing for 4 months and I still have most gold stakes I need to complete

[burnt topaz]

Got predictions for blue, Anaglyph, erratic, ghost, and zodiac

So the top 2 from each group will advance on top of 2 wild cards

[drowsy hinge]

However hopefully thus will be my first unseeded nanienf no brainstorm mod

[burnt topaz]

Alright how do I make a thread on mobile

I don’t think I can

[buoyant ridge]

this game has more compleXity than writing a phd in maths

[sleek agate]

🤨

[buoyant ridge]

what am i doing wrong ? i picked mime at the beginning and now i have nothing that can complement it

[hidden lance]

good start

[autumn forge]

Maybe a bit underpowered tbh

[burnt topaz]

Alright the league is officially… ON!

First Matchup is Red VS Blue

[bleak blaze]

8-Ball Run

[modern panther]

Rq question, is there a channel for memes? I can't find it if there is.

[hidden lance]

lol

[cloud sinew]

green deck streak is now at 2 :3

x4.9 vampire, x10.25 hologram

[mortal basin]

Guys is it joever?

[willow frost]

sell vagabond and use judgement

[cyan ocean]

there's a possiblity they don't enjoy the game

[willow frost]

it could be a blueprint you never know

[cloud sinew]

79.5hrs on record 😭

[mortal basin]

I got a ramen

[mortal basin]

Savescum?

[willow frost]

no youre good

win

[cyan ocean]

i think it would be a little late to refund the game now

[mortal basin]

I dont have anything i can play

[vestal fern]

refund and balatro ("the game") in the same sentence

[bleak blaze]

Do yall ever get some wack ass joker early and think "Fuck it, im gonna make a build work out of this"

Oh shit

My bad for the tag

[mortal basin]

Help i dont wanna loseeee this is the furthest run ive ever gotten

[vestal fern]

someone died to Crimson Heart

[cyan ocean]

i dunno what crimson heart but i assume it's an ante 8 blind

i've only gotten violet vessel and once amber acorn (or whatever it's called)

[willow frost]

whats high card level at

[alpine talon]

HELP ME WHAT DO I DO

I never got this far

[mortal basin]

Lol its at 1

Very sure mults wont save the high card

[willow frost]

alright play the stone 2 and pray

[alpine talon]

ACTUALLY HELP

[willow frost]

i doubt it works but its your best hand rn

[untold solar]

What is the correct order of jokers to maximize score I have a lot of Kings of hearts

[mortal basin]

Wouldnt it be better to play diamonds 6 since its a mult and that way i keep the x1.5 from the steel

[willow frost]

didnt even see the 6

WAIT

why is spare trousers on the far right

[mortal basin]

The order of the jokers matters?

I did not know that

[willow frost]

it does

you put +mult before xmult to maximise score

[random delta]

does holding planet cards have same effect as holding tarot cards

[willow frost]

currently everything else is fine, just move spare trousers in front of throwback i guess

and play the 6? maybe? idk man i fear for your win

[willow frost]

what effect do you mean

[mortal basin]

Me too man

[shell dagger]

blocking? yes

it’s more effective with planet cards because there are fewer of them

[mortal basin]

Bruh this game makes u clench ur ass so hard

[random delta]

holding it so it won’t appear again when you open a pack of said consumable

[willow frost]

probably shouldve guessed my bad lol

[mortal basin]

I havent felt this way with a game in forever

[random delta]

okay bet thanks

[undone laurel]

My Yee-Yee ass combo of high steel and photochad worked surprisingly well. Also, 2 more gold stickers!

[mortal basin]

Well that would’ve been handy to know 1 round ago lmao but no worries thanks for letting me know

[undone laurel]

And every Legendary is now gold stickered!

[willow frost]

i switched to this from geometry dash so the feeling was not alien lol

[willow frost]

yeah sorry i wasnt there earlier lol

[red thistle]

Your name made me giggle.

[mortal basin]

Tbf its not your fault, i shouldve asked earlier so you’re good

[mortal basin]

Lol glad i made u laugh

[cedar shell]

obelisk is so freaking baller

[sly coral]

hmmm maybe not bad with blank and blue seals

[mortal basin]

Welp

Full send

God help me

[cedar shell]

finding it ante 1 is cool and all to center your build around but finding it ante 4 while youre floundering for score is just chefs kiss

[mortal basin]

Fingers crossed

Im gonna kill myself

I was short by 4k

Literally like 4.2k away from 300k

[manic talon]

BACK TO BACK I LOVE BLOODSTONE GRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

[cosmic seal]

calm down bro

[willow frost]

DAMMIT

[untold solar]

Anyone?

[cosmic seal]

its ante 9

[willow frost]

im pretty sure if you had that information literally 1 hand earlier you couldve won

sorry about that

[sly coral]

voucher skip gamble didnt work

[cosmic seal]

88k high score is crazyu

[willow frost]

clearance sale is good wdym lol

[sly coral]

i need antimatter

[mortal basin]

Yea lmao but dont worry about it

At least i learned it now rather than later

[willow frost]

thats true yeah

[mortal basin]

Yea i started playing this game like 2 days ago so im still learning

[willow frost]

you can reorder jokers a lot, especially with blueprint and brainstorm

[vestal fern]

insert that balatrue image

[mortal basin]

I’ll definitely keep that in mind

[willow frost]

like after you win a round, if youre fast enough you can copy mime with blueprint by moving it so you can get both the scoring and the gold/blue seals

stuff like that

[undone laurel]

How did ts make it to ante 12 💀

Ante 12 boss is the plant btw

Final results

[cyan ocean]

what the hell
why and how do you have so many steel jacks

[undone laurel]

I had DNA for 5 rounds

And Perkeo printing deaths

[undone laurel]

Kept it for the 6th round (ante 8 boss) to get a sticker on it 👍

[untold solar]

What should my joker order be or is it the same right now ?

[sly coral]

its your time to shine buddy

[shell dagger]

Copy photo

Or copy chad for money

[sly coral]

can i win without mr bones

[burnt topaz]

Red scored 19472934
Jokers:
Foil Supernova
Foil Droll Joker
Polychrome Arrowhead
Polychrome Bull
Blackboard
Fun Fact: All the editions except for droll joker here came from the wheel.

[sly coral]

maybe i dont need the supernova

[hidden trellis]

How are you even getting your jokes with the infinity logos on them>

[sly coral]

black stake and <

[burnt topaz]

Can blue deck beat that? Probably not

But there’s hope

[cosmic sun]

black stake introduces eternal jokers that you can't sell or destroy

[cosmic sun]

blue deck has, though that is a weak nova for red deck

not sure if it was gotten late, or that the skips fucked it up, or both

[twin lantern]

by scoring enough 🧠

[undone laurel]

True…

[nova junco]

I think I just won the single least deserved gold stake run ever (I sold a perishable DNA for verdant leaf I used to get emergency glass the last 3 rounds)

[undone laurel]

I think I even saw a perishable baron once

[drowsy hinge]

Broooo fuck this game 3k and no burglar

There goes my nanienf

😭

[tiny citrus]

now I want a hollow knight friends of jimbo

[manic flicker]

I am not used to plasma deck. Playing Two Pairs, I feel like I could be fine and even trim Card sharp, but I could replace it with Spare Trouses ? Do I need that mult ?

[calm sapphire]

what did you reroll

[river slate]

what do i do

[calm sapphire]

wait were you looking for serpent

[cosmic sun]

are you deadass bro

[calm sapphire]

how is that alive

did you mean 3k and no serpent?

[cosmic sun]

burnt.

duh

[river slate]

too late

i don't like burnt

ngl

[burnt topaz]

Blue Deck got 1130880
Jokers:
Droll Joker
Sly Joker
Zany Joker
Walkie Talkie
Acrobat
Fun Fact: After pivoting from full house 10s and 4s with walkie talkie to 4oak of 4s, a spectral pack was opened, paintbrush and palette had been taken, so hand size loss was irrelevant, their hand contained one four and no tens, ouija is used, it lands on 10s. The run pivoted to 5oak 10s and finally flush five 10 of clubs before falling apart to the flint.

[burnt topaz]

Wdym weak nova?

[cosmic sun]

bro is on red deck and picked that

smh

[river slate]

but the face is smilyy

[pale wolf]

ok time to try and beat gold stake blue deck for finally

[cosmic sun]

good nova is 20 more ngl

[burnt topaz]

Yeah this nova was like 26

[cosmic sun]

photochad brainrot has claimed you and I hope you get out of it

[pale wolf]

i have to remember my 3 good advices: photochad is good, take red seals, and the devil is free

[burnt topaz]

If I remember correctly

[cloud sinew]

the devil my beloved

[tiny citrus]

it’s free win playing pairs

[river slate]

boringgg

[cloud sinew]

losing is boring

[marsh goblet]

chat i feel like i play pairs too much. i just always play pairs unless im forced to use a different hand

[cloud sinew]

winning is fun

ergo pairs are fun

[tiny citrus]

winning the game is fun I like it

[cosmic sun]

you picked face cards if that aint boring idk what is

[river slate]

winning with boring builds it's boring

[cosmic sun]

🗿

[burnt topaz]

First matchup of the Balatro Deck League goes to Red Deck

[tiny citrus]

that’s only true if the build is photochad

[pale wolf]

straights are so hard

[marsh goblet]

man i love cartomancer...

but im taking rebate

actually wait it's red stake i can play however i want

[buoyant ridge]

EZ win

[cedar shell]

does the tooth trigger matador

[cosmic sun]

🙄

[cloud sinew]

i dont believe so

[marsh goblet]

yeah but i feel like i do it too much, like there's gotta be situations where i should play different hands

[pale wolf]

ok but fr, i wonder if taking the pack just in case its better than/good synergy with square is a fine idea

[pale wolf]

nope

[cedar shell]

suffering from success anyone

[river slate]

0 regrets with my choice

[cloud sinew]

i would take the pack first and then go for square after potentially

[twin lantern]

nah just take square

[pale wolf]

lilo won this exchange fr

[marsh goblet]

like i don't always win and i feel like that might have something to do with me playing for pairs too much

[burnt topaz]

9 matches left in this group, I don’t think any of them will be close

[marsh goblet]

and it payed off because lucky card hit lol

[burnt topaz]

Because Balatro has a lot of variance

[pale wolf]

it was def always that order yea

[cloud sinew]

:3

[marsh goblet]

oh yeah cartomancer was definitely the play lol

[cedar shell]

i love finding tickets when i have one gold card and not finding it after midas masking my whole deck

[pale wolf]

i died.

i accidentally threw the suit i needed

huge L

[vocal rose]

rebate greed takes lives

[pale wolf]

no i just

[vocal rose]

take overstock

[pale wolf]

didnt pay attention

[vocal rose]

overstock is huge starting ante 1

i’d take the pack and then overstock tbh

[pale wolf]

god damn i feel dumb

run it back

[strange axle]

Game is impossible without todd

[random ice]

Lmao

Level 1 full house

860k in scoring

[cedar shell]

rip eternal half joker

bros never getting used again

[strange axle]

Half joker my goat

[cedar shell]

what's your favorite joker to solo ante 1 or 1 and 2

[cedar shell]

i love me a banana

[white zodiac]

fist

[strange axle]

Supernova actually comes online pretty fast if you spam pairs if you get it in the first or second shop

[cedar shell]

what yall know about first pack eternal riff raff

[pale wolf]

too much

[cedar shell]

i always lose but it's funny asl

[random ice]

Hilarious run

[vocal rose]

pants rtb green joker

[cedar shell]

i never get anything

[cedar shell]

[strange axle]

Losing with the chigoat should be a badge of shame

[spiral cairn]

you.

[vocal rose]

yes

[spiral cairn]

bro how

[strange axle]

I will never understand the hate for that card

[buoyant ridge]

what should i do here ? this game is impossible

[spiral cairn]

pray.

[buoyant ridge]

should i open console and cheat ?

[strange axle]

The water is just a fucked up boss blind don’t blame yourself

[spiral cairn]

nah needle is even worse i swear

[uncut slate]

the water either doesn't matter at all or is a guaranteed loss and there is rarely an in between

[calm sapphire]

dying here is the best play

[spiral cairn]

psychic is still ok

[buoyant ridge]

this game isnt fun when there are so many unfair boss blinds that counter everything...

[spiral cairn]

needle and water are diddy

[strange axle]

This is why chigoat is so awesome

[long oxide]

Do I take invis

[uncut slate]

i mean you can see the boss blind two shops away

[cloud sinew]

there are very few instances where bosses arent fair in my opinion

[strange axle]

You could sell th trading card for it

[uncut slate]

you have a chance to try to find something that will work

[spiral cairn]

rng plays a big role

sadly

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[random ice]

I am now immune to ante 7 plant

[strange axle]

“Where does that bring you? Back to ME.”

[uncut slate]

if you have good econ you can pretty much always make it work

just need to play smarter

[north schooner]

With Four Fingers, will the Queen score and reset the bus?

[spiral cairn]

no

its straight

im pretty sure its counting 1 2 3 4

queen wont scor

[north schooner]

hmm I will pass on "pretty sure"

[spiral cairn]

ask the pros

[north schooner]

I am also pretty sure but don't want to sacrifice the run

[spiral cairn]

i started balatro a week ago

[strange axle]

Ohhh yeah this game counts aces low too right?

[spiral cairn]

yes

1 2 3 4

[strange axle]

I always forget about that

[cloud sinew]

no, it's not a part of a straight or flush

[strange axle]

Even though I play poker in real life a lot

[white zodiac]

luckily it has very little contribution for getting good at racking wins

[alpine talon]

My best run so far

[strange axle]

The only time I really consider aces low is black jack

[spiral cairn]

bj is

scary

i dont like it

[alpine talon]

They are not low in black jack

[cloud sinew]

1 or 11

[spiral cairn]

they can be

[alpine talon]

Exactly

[spiral cairn]

i dont remember but theres some rule

they can be 1 or 11

[strange axle]

You can have it either it depends on your dealer

[alpine talon]

Yeah so it's not low per se

[cyan ocean]

i cant discard it nooo 😭

[alpine talon]

Pretty sure you can always choose

[north schooner]

Counterpoint: it would be boring if there was a strat without a counter.

[random ice]

Fun win

[spiral cairn]

its literally the lowest number

possible

[strange axle]

Yes

[random ice]

Half Joker really carried

[alpine talon]

Highest too dawg 😭

[spiral cairn]

you can usually choose tho

[strange axle]

Ace high means higher than king and aces low is lower than 2

[cyan ocean]

worst day of my life
can't discard royal flush

[north schooner]

Thank you!

[alpine talon]

Usually it is taking the highest possible value until you overcommit

[spiral cairn]

qh

why

[alpine talon]

Brainstorm

[cyan ocean]

for achievement

[spiral cairn]

no im asking why cant you discard it

[cyan ocean]

no discards

[alpine talon]

No discards

Lmao

[spiral cairn]

oh

rip

oh i didnt see the photo

[strange axle]

What’s y’all’s favorite kind of poker

[alpine talon]

Texas holdem duh

[spiral cairn]

omaha

[strange axle]

That’s the goat

[north schooner]

five card draw

[spiral cairn]

texas is the most popular no

?

[strange axle]

I like Hold ‘em the most because it’s the most fun to bluff in that game

[alpine talon]

Guys what am I missing I kid you not I cannot tell

[spiral cairn]

hold em do you get 5 cards or 2?

omaha is 4

[strange axle]

2

[spiral cairn]

ah

whats the one where you get 5

i play a lot offline on phone its fun

[cosmic sun]

society if amber acorn unflipped cards during win screen

[strange axle]

Probably five card draw

[spiral cairn]

matador

[cloud sinew]

joker

[alpine talon]

Wait it's rare?

[spiral cairn]

mid asf

[cosmic sun]

seeing double, flower pot, and business card stickered

[spiral cairn]

no

its not

its uncommon

my bad

[alpine talon]

Bruh

I think it's obelisk

I never picked ts up

[spiral cairn]

its matador

[alpine talon]

No

Whatever I'm missing

[strange axle]

You foooool you’re supposed to take those out

[cosmic sun]

until it actually hits

lol

[spiral cairn]

you are missing matador

we all have the same collections

i have one acc maxed

and in that position it is matador

[cosmic sun]

using all your hands on debuffed pairs and having matador hit

[alpine talon]

Omg you're right

[spiral cairn]

diddal

[alpine talon]

Brother it's so bad

How does is even trigger

[spiral cairn]

its

[spiral cairn]

only works on some boss blinds

wiki has them

[alpine talon]

So every card that's debuffed gives me 8 dollars

[spiral cairn]

not always debuffed

im pretty sure theres some other ones

but yeah technically that

[alpine talon]

Yeah I'll read the wiki

[spiral cairn]

nah matador is ass

[cosmic sun]

its why matador is getting reworked

[cosmic sun]

would you still pick it up if you knew how to use it

[north schooner]

Why does card sharp always show up in the shop right before the eye?

[spiral cairn]

it somehow works on the flint

[cloud sinew]

matador is hard-coded to payout if you "score" a debuffed card

[spiral cairn]

yeah

[cosmic sun]

game be sentient /s

[spiral cairn]

like if you get the arm

and your hand level is above 2

it goes down

which activates it

kinda weird

[cloud sinew]

above 1* yeah

[strange axle]

I like the matador, it sucks in a lot of situations but when it works it really works

[spiral cairn]

somehow also works on verdant leaf

[cosmic sun]

cause debuff

[spiral cairn]

technically

yeah

[floral mural]

yeah cause its a dbuffed card

[zealous scaffold]

can i ask something?

[manic talon]

this is like the time where it makes complete sense

[spiral cairn]

verdant is like

[floral mural]

debuffed cards are the most consistent matador proc (it even works on double or nothing)

[spiral cairn]

i have -2 iq

probably

[cosmic sun]

yep can't hate it

[north schooner]

Don't ask to ask, just ask

[spiral cairn]

are there finisher blinds every 8 antes?

[floral mural]

the real times matador gets weird is when the hand triggers the effect but its not just debuffed cards (so fun to not be consistent)

[spiral cairn]

i only got to 15 bfore dying

[floral mural]

yes

[spiral cairn]

oh

[strange axle]

I only play unseeded so I kind of love the bad cards and know how to use them and abuse them

[spiral cairn]

are they from the same 5

or are they diff

[zealous scaffold]

how can i keepping this run. booster pack skip disabled..

[floral mural]

i just get pissed off from matador being inconsistent

[floral mural]

there is no content hidden in endless exclusively ever

[spiral cairn]

o

[floral mural]

theres one unlock which requires ante 12 and thats it

[strange axle]

A good rule of thumb is to only really take it when it applies to the next boss blind

[floral mural]

i am aware

still doesnt solve the joker not playing like youd read it

[strange axle]

That’s true

[north schooner]

I think I might be cooked 🙁

[spiral cairn]

has anyone actually gotten to ante 39 and ahead?

[white zodiac]

I just don't think about it half of the time since it only takes 1 round for him to get you to interest cap