🕹・game-discussion

[trail gate]

hopefully i don't hit serpant before then

[sharp orchid]

Yeah it would be easier if you can force a serpent

[signal frigate]

That's why I always turn my kings Gold early in Baron runs

Stock up on money for the boss rerolls

It gets really expensive

[trail gate]

Money isn't an issue, I got a nat negative rebate

[signal frigate]

You're gonna need more than you'd think still

[trail gate]

i'm earning 125 * 3 every round

[signal frigate]

I had 14k once and it got snuffed after 20 antes

[trail gate]

so if i stop rolling for pluto i can have a couple thousand to roll for serpent

oh damn

[tranquil cargo]

you also run into an issue every 8 antes

[sharp orchid]

They have Perkeo, it should be fine

[tranquil cargo]

can't make a showdown blind become serpent

[signal frigate]

Retcon eats money like a mfker

Perkeo makes that way easier yeah

[sharp orchid]

You need a ton of money if you don't have the legendary

[signal frigate]

When you start hitting E's, planets only become 1.5x for observatory, they're not worth leveling up your hand anymore

[trail gate]

theoretically if I get serpent and access to a shop beforehand I could sell perkeo if I find something more useful right?

[signal frigate]

Just roll for it once

[trail gate]

okay will bare that in mind

[signal frigate]

The strat I'd go is stock up on negative Plutos for Observatory, then sell Perkeo for something else

[sharp orchid]

Yeah plutos won't get you far enough

[signal frigate]

That way you get to keep even more score

And then find something better

[trail gate]

well I have 42 cryptids rn

so idk if perkeo would ever copy a pluto LMAO

[signal frigate]

Well, do you wanna go ante 39? Or just Naneinf?

[sharp orchid]

That's better if you can beat the blinds with no plutos

[trail gate]

just naninf

[signal frigate]

Then focus on Cryptids

If the blinds are starting to catch up, I'd recommend rolling for Serpent if you have retcon

Then full on send it with your cryptids

[trail gate]

I'm currently having to use 1 cryptid to survive

Generating 4 per round

[signal frigate]

That is a problem

[trail gate]

after this ante it'll be a net loss

[signal frigate]

Bean should probably get you far enough

[trail gate]

so i'll have to send it

yea that's what i'm thinking

[signal frigate]

Ya have retcon?

[trail gate]

yea

[signal frigate]

And how many dosh?

[trail gate]

700 rn

[signal frigate]

Hope and pray that damn snake comes

[trail gate]

will get another 300+ from last boss of this ante

[signal frigate]

Because I assure you, 700 dollars probably isn't enough lmfao

[trail gate]

I believe in the heart of the cards

[sharp orchid]

On expectation it would lol

[signal frigate]

Spending 2k to reroll it in my experience

[sharp orchid]

Just pray for a medium roll, not even a high roll

[trail gate]

If i lose then i've learnt for next time

farm cryptids sooner

[signal frigate]

The sooner you can get it online the better

I've also accidentally hit naneinf once

I miscalculated in the best way possible and thought I wouldn't score enough

But then it just kept going

[trail gate]

Okay thank god I got serpent

To beat the blinds i'll need to use 3 cryptids up until the boss

so still positive 1 cryptid per round for 2 rounds

So I play the 2 small blinds, and get to 46 cryptids

[sharp orchid]

Just make sure you don't accidentally win in the serpent round before you cryptid lol

[trail gate]

I'll need 16 more cards total after cryptids

[signal frigate]

Just

Skip.

You win with what you have

[trail gate]

I have 44 currently

[signal frigate]

How many discards and hands ya got?

[trail gate]

3

5

7 total

[signal frigate]

Because you wanna use all but one hand before you discard

[trail gate]

I might just barely win

[signal frigate]

And then cryptid it

[trail gate]

Okay ima send it

[sharp orchid]

Play the two hands first and then discard 5 times

[signal frigate]

What's the score requirement? Let us see your setup

You maybe could've snagged a burglar first

[sharp orchid]

If you are sure you need 3 cryptids for the normal blinds you shouldn't win without cryptid for the serpent

[trail gate]

I'm still in shop

haven't skipped the blinds yet

[signal frigate]

Also, serpent makes your hands and discards additional cryptids

So you essentially have 54 now

[sharp orchid]

I don't think burglar helps that much

[signal frigate]

It does alot for naneinf

[sharp orchid]

If they're that close to just winning the round

[simple bronze]

do i take banana?

[sharp orchid]

The discards help to increase the hand size without winning

[signal frigate]

Why do you need that cloud nine on a Photochad run?

[trail gate]

Sorry I have 5 hands and 3 discards

[simple bronze]

because i got 2 rentals

and i need stickers

[trail gate]

I doubt i'll win after using 4 hands right?

[sharp orchid]

4 hands = 4 cryptids so maybe

[trail gate]

I mean i could just not copy baron mime

[sharp orchid]

Yeah

[simple bronze]

soo i sell cloud 9?

flush about to hit level 23

[sharp orchid]

WHAT

[lunar zealot]

I love Baseball Card

[signal frigate]

You have positive econ rn

I think you're fine to do that

[sharp orchid]

I don't think you should skip for getting a Lvl20 to Lvl23

[signal frigate]

You're winning alot with Photochad, the blind reward+interest should keep it net positive

[sharp orchid]

Definitely doesn't worth it

Lvl1 to Lvl4 in early antes maybe

[simple bronze]

its level 12 rn

but its gonna be 23 or so

when i skip

[sharp orchid]

Oh with double tags

[simple bronze]

ya

[sharp orchid]

idk maybe

[frank light]

that could go kind of hard

[simple bronze]

yeah

[frank light]

but then again flushes dont scale that well

i guess if youre just trying to win it could be worth it tho

[simple bronze]

doesn't matter

i just need chips

[sharp orchid]

yeah, I would rather just play pairs

[frank light]

youd be fine either way probably

up to you

[sharp orchid]

the banana won't do much either

[trail gate]

welp here we go

It sure is beautiful

[simple bronze]

lets goooo

[sharp orchid]

gl

[frank light]

thats the mod called that tells you youre score?

[simple bronze]

ya

[unreal glacier]

what the heck did i pull

ante 2

[sharp orchid]

super straight flush

is this a multiplayer specific deck?

[balmy grail]

Should I have lesser xmult before or after higher xmult

[unreal glacier]

yes

[fervent wolf]

Got the daily Balatrodle already lol

[balmy grail]

Like if I had something with 3x but also something with 2x, would 2x go before or after 3x

[sharp orchid]

doesnt matter

multiplication is commutative

[sharp orchid]

how can you get your deck fixed like this in ante 2

[trail gate]

LETS GOOOOOOO

[sharp orchid]

congrats

[trail gate]

thank you everyone who helped 🙏

[unborn cliff]

ghost deck naneinf

wowee

[trail gate]

I know it's the easiest deck but I just wanted to get it done 😭

[unborn cliff]

no plasma is the easiest

[sharp orchid]

idk, maybe easier on plasma

[trail gate]

oh fr?

[unborn cliff]

ghost deck is harder than plasma

because plasma essentially ^2's your score

[sharp orchid]

yeah on plasma you can get about the same score with half the amount of cryptids

[trail gate]

yea but on ghost you get cryptids easily

not to mention deck fixing is easier

[fervent wolf]

Launch all 230 gold cards for this econ 🫡

[fervent wolf]

Ggs, naneinf

[trail gate]

how many mimes? LMAO

[simple bronze]

is this enough for vv?

[sharp orchid]

what jokers

[simple bronze]

oh yeah....

[sharp orchid]

Definitely with the glass

Maybe learn to do some mental maths

[fervent wolf]

Showman gave me 2 additional ones and then invis sadly hit one lol

[simple bronze]

no

[sharp orchid]

to help gauging how much score you'll need

[simple bronze]

thats why computers are invented

[fervent wolf]

We got money tho

[fervent wolf]

When I did this, the hand took 30 minutes

[sharp orchid]

Suppose you haven't got the justice, you definitely won't beat vv in one hand

I'm not saying to calculate the score to the most accuracy, but it's useful to get an estimate

or you can just ask in discord every time you've got a scoring choice lmao

[rancid tartan]

anyone want to play some casual mult?

[sudden tree]

Holy

[dire crater]

Whathesigma

[dire crater]

W bloodstone run

[sudden tree]

Crazy end btw

[dire crater]

Lels

[sudden tree]

Serpent is always a poetic end to a run

Plant is a Greek tradgey

[sudden tree]

Bloodstone and opps is one of the most broke 2 joker combos

I nicked it opps all bloody! Cause of the blinds getting splattered by it

[dire crater]

Good name

[vocal matrix]

Must... resist... stupidity impulse

[sudden tree]

I call opps + lust + photochad + sock

Opps! Killed a whole family and stole their socks!

[sudden tree]

DO IT

DO IT

DO IT

DO IT

DO IT

[vocal matrix]

Crazy name 20/10

[dire crater]

Do it

Do it

Do it

[sudden tree]

OOO WHAT IF ITS TRIB

OOOO

[dire crater]

Or perk

Infinite posbilities

[vocal matrix]

Fine, I'll do it

[dire crater]

thats what she said

trib?

trib?

canius

Canius

[vocal matrix]

Yorick...

[dire crater]

HAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[vocal matrix]

I knew I should'nt have heard those strange voices in my head

[dire crater]

looks like we found out the real joker

[errant brook]

STAYING CALM

I now basically just need to live long enough to build up the Cryptid stack

[vocal matrix]

Unless you get plant (And you don't have directors cut) its an easy naneinf

Congrats on the naneinf
-Roffle

[errant brook]

Both of which are possible lol

[serene forge]

I hate Lusty Joker

[sudden tree]

Naninf is possible if you get serpent late enough

[errant brook]

I don't have re-roll but haven't seen the plant yet

[sudden tree]

ITS SLEPT ON

IT AND BLOODSTONE GOES CRAZY

[errant brook]

I will need the re-roll vouchers

or A LOT of cryptids

[sudden tree]

I literally like

NO NOT THE HORSES

[cosmic sun]

naur

[hybrid tendon]

you can't say something good about bloodstone

[slate parcel]

Neigh

[serene forge]

whinny

[whole glacier]

Gentlemen/girls i need your help

[errant brook]

With

[sly coral]

negative burglar and dna is interesting

[whole glacier]

I can give the seed if yall want it its insane

[serene forge]

negative burger sounds crappy

[hybrid tendon]

holy where is your econ

[whole glacier]

But anyways here :

Guys this is my first attempt its far from optimal im aware

[hybrid tendon]

oh pretty great for a first attempt

[errant brook]

I had a naturally Negative Burglar (sort of) in a partially seeded run and it resulted in me having over $20,000

[serene forge]

golden ticket farming i'm assuming

wait what does partially seeded mean

[whole glacier]

So I was wondering anyways, is having 2 mimes good enough instead of having 4 copying jokers

[hybrid tendon]

not really no

[serene forge]

you need 4 copies because they need to go on burger

you need the hands

[whole glacier]

Okay okay

[sly coral]

maybe u can close the gap a little w dna and a hand size skip if u get lucky

[hybrid tendon]

no you still need another copy joker

even with me those

[sly coral]

idkk he has 3 double skips r u sure

[whole glacier]

I saw like 4 negatives total and those were to the moon, dna burglar and banner which lets be honest is crazy cool and lucky cause Im for sure not doing this right

[sly coral]

+15 handsize instead of a copy seems good

[sudden tree]

3xed my score with it

[sly coral]

naw maybe not

[hybrid tendon]

I mean yeah I guess that's good but at some point you want to skip into serpent instead of playing blinds

[sly coral]

it still wouldnt score naneinf

i did the math

[hybrid tendon]

it could score naninf in a high enough ante, but they'Re not

[whole glacier]

Is ante 19 too early for converting my kings ?

Heres the deck rn

[hybrid tendon]

you gotta add the burger serpents

naninf on the last hand

[loud stag]

With enough copy jokers, it will

[hybrid tendon]

need 40 steel kings

in hand

on plasma

with 2 copy on mime and 2 on baron

[sly coral]

w 4 optimal copy jokers

[sly coral]

2 mime 2 baron? i rmr it as 3 baron 1 mime

[lean spade]

its 3b 1m

[hybrid tendon]

yeah my bad

misremebered

[whole glacier]

Yeah so showman / invisible joker it is until I find an other copying joker then im ready once I got more steels in my deck to try it, is that right ?

I really dont wanna mess this up but im a bit confused for the final setup

[sly coral]

u can be ready w a extra baron too and look for a juggle tag before serpent

[whole glacier]

Okay good

[sudden tree]

Converting to?

[whole glacier]

From gold to steel

[sly coral]

steel

[whole glacier]

What I mean is should I dna steels and begin merging

Or should I keep on farming

Yes im a bit broke im aware

[sly coral]

u r already at %50 that means u can get whatever card set u want steel or gold u should start converting when u get behind 10e's

[sudden tree]

How broke

[whole glacier]

439 buckaronees

[sly coral]

nah not 10e its only like 3 antes

maybe start a bit earlier

[whole glacier]

50% ? Of all antes you mean ?

[sly coral]

no

steel and golds

u have equal amount of steels and golds

[whole glacier]

Oh yeah okay

[sly coral]

if u want money its still fine w %70 steel and thats what u usually do but u have burglar

so u cant dig for golds

[whole glacier]

Yeah maybe that fucks me doesnt it

[sly coral]

kinda does but u need it too

[whole glacier]

But I have it negative I cant rly say no

[sly coral]

your dna is negative too thats what u sell for burglar in a regular attempt

[whole glacier]

Okay so play broke and hope for the best is the general vibe

[sly coral]

its a really good first attempt but idk if its a perfect one

just do your best

[whole glacier]

Yeah its far from optimal, thanks for all the advices

I got lucky with negatives cause otherwise I think I did multiple medium to big mistakes

[sly coral]

doing mistakes is finee

u still did very good

[median crystal]

how do i check boss blind history with handy

[north schooner]

Oh no. Is this... is this a throwback run?

I'd only be able to get it to 2.25 by ante 8 boss. And swashegg is doing more than red card

[loud stag]

Its a bp run for sure

[whole glacier]

Speaking of mistakes

Forgot to reroll

Gg lads

Gonna try on the same seed until I get it

E9EBUE1L if anyone wants an easy/bit weird naneinf attempt

[forest rapids]

When the game gives me good runs :<

[errant brook]

Okay guys do you think I should just say screw it and do naneinf at ante 16? I THINK I have enough Cryptid for it

[marsh dove]

It’s a throwback run

[forest rapids]

Ehh

I like throw back

It was on like 3 mult too

[verbal wren]

3/5 chance of something good for this run

[errant brook]

It's time lol

[whole glacier]

You got this

[slow iris]

egg carry

[verbal wren]

Nice egg

[jagged torrent]

Yeah with the temp value

[verbal wren]

Canio so ass

[errant brook]

Naturally negative egg is great cuz free $50 with temperance

Also

Ghost naneinf achieved

[verbal wren]

Yeah I meant it when I said nice egg

[errant brook]

5th unseeded naneinf, first not on Plasma

I've now accomplished everything I've wanted to accomplish except ante 39

Last big hump

[verbal wren]

That's what I'm trying to do but perkeo doesn't exist

[errant brook]

Bro trustme

This was a run where I went through a lot of Arcana packs early

[verbal wren]

This is my only naneinf from like 6+ months ago

[errant brook]

I found a soul early but it was Canio and I decided to keep going for it

Found Perkeo in ante 10ish and was like OH HOLD ON

Only reason I did naneinf here was because I didn't have the reroll vouchers and the ante 16 boss was the shuffle one

[spiral cairn]

should i hex hologram im only on ante 2 i only have the debit card joker

[errant brook]

Wasn't dealing with that

[spiral cairn]

i can js sell and hex it

[errant brook]

What stake is this

[verbal wren]

Hex credit card

[latent glade]

if i download cryptid before nan-e-inf ing do i get shot

[errant brook]

Nah

[latent glade]

okay now what about before 100%ing the game

[errant brook]

Only reason I don't have it is because I'm on the Game Pass version

define 100%

[verbal wren]

I'm on mobile

[latent glade]

100% completion on one save file

C++ C+ C

[errant brook]

are you using Cryptid to get completionist++

[latent glade]

all challenges

[latent glade]

no

[errant brook]

Probably not

[latent glade]

hell i dont even have a QoL mod

[latent glade]

not in a way thats

actual restriction of the software

[north schooner]

Brian, no, loyalty card is already getting the sticker.

[latent glade]

i mean like

would i be shunned

[errant brook]

TBH if you're good, you can do C++ in less than a month if you're going for it

I thought it was gonna take me 6 months, took me 3 weeks

I was like "........oh"

[verbal wren]

Same it was super easy

[latent glade]

eternal red card 💔 💔 💔 so sorry

[errant brook]

Once I realized just play on Red/Blue deck was the way to go it wasn't too bad

[latent glade]

also where is your common polychrome you got shop 1 and kept the whole game

[errant brook]

"Find Photochad and then do other jokers at the end"

[latent glade]

im thinking i uh

whats it called

[north schooner]

Why? It carried as it always does

[latent glade]

hold on

[errant brook]

Anaglyph?

[latent glade]

actually when did you get it

[verbal wren]

I got 3 legendarys gold in 1 run so didn't have to worry about those

[latent glade]

yeah

[errant brook]

Anaglyph will on one occasion get you a bunch of jokers and then do nothing. HOWEVER Anagylph is the way to go to get the legendary jokers if you don't naturally find them beforehand

[latent glade]

im going to KILL you

[north schooner]

ante 2 maybe?

[errant brook]

My last joker for C++ was Chicot

[latent glade]

okay nvm good

[verbal wren]

Lol

[errant brook]

Ironically, he made the run free cuz I was scoring enough points by ante 3 and he disabled all the bosses

[north schooner]

eggbuckler was outpacing it for awhile, but it caught up

[verbal wren]

Canio getting killed

[north schooner]

Here's the question, do I swap out egg for lusty for the sticker?

[latent glade]

oh yeah i still need to do Jokerless ✋︎👎︎ 👌︎☜︎ ⚐︎😐︎✌︎✡︎ 🕈︎✋︎❄︎☟︎ ✋︎❄︎ 👌︎🕆︎❄︎ ✋︎ 🕈︎✌︎💧︎ ⚐︎☠︎ ✌︎ 💧︎❄︎☼︎✌︎✋︎☝︎☟︎❄︎ 👌︎🕆︎✋︎☹︎👎︎ ✌︎☠︎👎︎ ✌︎☠︎❄︎☜︎ 💧︎☜︎✞︎☜︎☠︎ ✋︎ 🕈︎✌︎💧︎❄︎☜︎👎︎ ✌︎☹︎☹︎ ⚐︎☞︎ 💣︎✡︎ 👎︎✋︎💧︎👍︎✌︎☼︎👎︎💧︎ ✌︎☠︎👎︎ 👎︎☼︎✌︎🕈︎💧︎ ⚐︎☠︎ ☝︎☜︎❄︎❄︎✋︎☠︎☝︎ ✌︎ 💧︎❄︎☼︎✌︎✋︎☝︎☟︎❄︎ ✌︎☠︎👎︎ ✋︎ 💧︎❄︎✋︎☹︎☹︎ 👎︎✋︎👎︎☠︎❄︎ ✋︎💣︎ 💧︎✌︎👎︎

[uncut slate]

i feel like red card is a decent one to pick up even as late as ante 3 if you're still treading water at that point, because it's easy to scale really fast if your econ is good

[latent glade]

if youre clearing rounds by a ridiculous amount you could probably get away with it

[uncut slate]

as in the challenge run or vanilla jokerless?

[latent glade]

but dont throw the game away just becaues you COULD get more

[latent glade]

the challenge run

[verbal wren]

Mine was troubadour took me like 4 days after he was final one

[uncut slate]

i unlocked that today it only took me two tries. way easier than i thought it would be

[verbal wren]

Jokerless is fun

[latent glade]

im going to MURDER you

[latent glade]

what build did you use

[uncut slate]

it's so easy to spam saturn and stack the deck

it's the obvious build anyway

[north schooner]

I'm not, but I have no problem drawing straights, and I have 6 hands, so I can trigger loyalty card guaranteed

[latent glade]

how is it easy to stack the deck

[uncut slate]

you get so many tarots

[latent glade]

spamming planets is easy yes

but . how is it easy to stack the deck .

[verbal wren]

I got it in 3 tries with 4oak

[uncut slate]

idk i was just drowning in tarots

[latent glade]

okay im just bad

[uncut slate]

you can probably stack for 4oak too if you go for that instead

[latent glade]

can you at least TRY to pull your punches

[tranquil cargo]

does it count as jokerless if I put cards in the joker slots that aren't jokers?

[latent glade]

no

[verbal wren]

Looks normal

[latent glade]

they actually subconciously become jokers

[uncut slate]

i like straights because you can start playing immediately instead of needing to transition from a different hand

[north schooner]

Cut the ends off your deck and you can draw straights consistently

[latent glade]

very unhealthy thing to do to your cards

[uncut slate]

also if you're struggling on scoring you can grab a justice or a chariot to bail you out

because you're drowning in tarots

boss blind was vv and i played 4 glasses and held two steels to absolutely smash it

[latent glade]

people who rely on straights for early scoring are insane

[verbal wren]

Straights are fun to play

[uncut slate]

that's why it took me two tries lol, the first run died to missing a straight draw in ante 2

[cosmic sun]

early scoring...

[latent glade]

you never see this screen and are happy about it

[modest spade]

Saturn has good scaling

[uncut slate]

you only need like one saturn to tide you over to get money online

[verbal wren]

I wonder how much new content gonna be in the update

[modest spade]

And straights are fairly easy to draw so

[latent glade]

i hope none

i havent gotten C+ C++ yet

[median kiln]

I did not know that if you nan inf and try to continue you can't

[verbal wren]

Skill issue

[cosmic sun]

my philosophy, ante 1 whatever works works

[latent glade]

yeah you like

[verbal wren]

Score also resets in top score

[latent glade]

hold on i gotta search your profile to something to insult you about

DRAKE

there i found it

[cosmic sun]

alphys wouldnt do that

[latent glade]

yeah sorry thats more a noelle thing

[cosmic sun]

shed kiss her wife

[median kiln]

I had the opportunity to reach ante 39, yet I didn't

Damn

[verbal wren]

Nothing wrong with drake

[latent glade]

queen is card 12 right

[latent glade]

you laugh you go to ante 39

[verbal wren]

Im not doing that shit on mobile took my friend almost an entire week

[latent glade]

there is NO way to consistently win jokerless and that makes me sad

[verbal wren]

Just get lucky

Jokerless is the easiest hard challenge

[verbal wren]

Photochad carry

[north schooner]

mommy, why is that joker shaking?

[broken spear]

valio queso :v

[dark otter]

quickly

[north schooner]

Loyalty card down, and I found a crazy joker without a sticker to fit the theme as well

[dark otter]

do i copy dusk or ancient

[north schooner]

ancient

2x2 vs 1x3

oh you have seltzer so even more reason to copy ancient

3x2 vs 4x1

put the glass card last

[verbal wren]

Should I go for naneinf again?

[shell rock]

wheres the person who hates bloodstone

[verbal wren]

Bloodstone is goated

[shell rock]

i intend on scaring them

[north schooner]

ducks

[cosmic sun]

you gon put them to sleep with an endless screenshot

[shell rock]

imo not really for most runs, it’s good if you’re building a hand with flush in the name and just so happen to be using hearts

[daring perch]

is that not true of like. every joker that's good

it's good if you fulfill its conditions

[shell rock]

what do you call a good joker then

because some conditions are easier than others

[cosmic sun]

the conditions are get oops and play flushes, that's pretty poopy

[daring perch]

every joker except 8 ball superposition and loyalty card

[cosmic sun]

at least ancient joker has better conditions

[daring perch]

you can run bloodstone without oops

[verbal wren]

My current run is also bloodstone

[cosmic sun]

for a flush joker.

[shell rock]

at least ancient joker doesn’t rely on rng

[frank light]

i love bloodstone but it hates me oh so much

[daring perch]

> doesn't rely on rng
> looks inside
> random suit unweighted

[shell rock]

i do love bloodstone because it’s fun in endless

[daring perch]

so true

[cosmic sun]

dies to rng

[shell rock]

wild or smth i guess ancient joker was a bad example

[cosmic sun]

aj requures you to read boss blinds

so hard right

[daring perch]

impossible condition truly

[shell rock]

balatro players can’t read

[verbal wren]

I always forget

[cosmic sun]

the tech is lookingat AJ's suit and skipping so you don't get AJ disabled

[daring perch]

the rng in this case is dying to blue stake because you couldnt draw the flush not the bosses

[tacit stream]

but balatro players can't read

[cosmic sun]

pair sweep

[shell rock]

pairs are good i’ve been told

[frank light]

youre not wrong me not forgetting to read the boss blind ahead of time and then dying stupidly

[daring perch]

pairs are goated

they're like high card but better

[shell rock]

yeah i do that all the time

[verbal wren]

Pairs are great hc is better

[daring perch]

the duality of man

[cosmic sun]

no

[shell rock]

hc is good pairs are better

[whole glacier]

Gold stake pairs feel more reliable

[tacit stream]

we need a lebron james meme for AJ blunder lol

[frank light]

or accidentally setting the wrong hand on the one hand type boss

truly a balatro moment

[daring perch]

dna or sixth sense when i run into the mouth

[cosmic sun]

Lebron James caught autopiloting on an AJ run!!!

[shell rock]

dna + the mouth is a horrible evil awful trick

[daring perch]

not as bad as card sharp and the eye

[whole glacier]

Ok hot take yall are psychos for doing c++

[shell rock]

many a run has been lost there

[frank light]

yerp and then no discard boss when i finally find trading card

[verbal wren]

Then why hc higher

[daring perch]

you have to play more high cards for them to be good

[cosmic sun]

it is a hot take because it has been a fun and enriching experience

[shell rock]

have you heard of different people having preferences

[cosmic sun]

pair better

[verbal wren]

No shot you guys really think I'm serious 😂

[frank light]

c++ will never happen for me

[cosmic sun]

what am i the ragebait police

[frank light]

now c+ is possible

[whole glacier]

Dont u just like get money and roll until u get a random joker before boss

[frank light]

and what im going for

[whole glacier]

Hope its a random card and win

[daring perch]

we thought you were serious because it wouldve been bad ragebait

[verbal wren]

It's actually really easy

[shell rock]

no i believed you, high card is not a bad build

[daring perch]

this is a civil conversation

[cosmic sun]

I mean sometimes, a lot of jokers are usable though so

[frank light]

its actually really time consuming and not worth the effort

[verbal wren]

Only took me like 2 and a half weeks

[cosmic sun]

then you realize your scoring and sell unecessary jokers

free stickers

[shell rock]

i’m not doing c++ ever i hope but i’d want to get c+

[frank light]

im also not very good at the game

[verbal wren]

Photochad

[frank light]

it takes me 2 and half weeks to beat one gold stake

[grim thunder]

It's like having a goal while you play, it doesn't consume time because you're doing side quests

[daring perch]

nothing is truly unusable

i've gold staked egg and i havent even done c+ yet

[whole glacier]

I finished c+ not long ago it felt really rewarding

[shell rock]

same except i only try it twice every few days because anger

[frank light]

yeah now that makes sense for me

[whole glacier]

C++ is like, mad crazy

[verbal wren]

I prefer hc over pairs but they are definitely worse I just like scaling stuff like grimbo and square on gold stake

[cosmic sun]

I mean, try it

[frank light]

c++ is just a needless grind for the sake of doing it

[grim thunder]

What about Throwback?

[frank light]

for cool points

[shell rock]

i mean me too but pairs also do that

[whole glacier]

Honestly mb if im really bored, trying to unseeded naneinf before

[daring perch]

Throwback is what you use with Anaglyph Deck

[whole glacier]

Maybe after

[cosmic sun]

if you can't get at least 2 stickers on some gs runs you might need to learn more

[daring perch]

skip for investment tags

[verbal wren]

I've probably only played like 1k pairs ever while I somehow have 13k hc

[shell rock]

high card usually gets played when you’re trying to draw the cards to play a better hand, to be fair

[grim thunder]

Not so sure about getting 0.25x mult each few antes

[daring perch]

Also sometimes you just get random negatives

[whole glacier]

True but like the tech would prolly be blue/orange deck 90% of the time and some specific decks for specific cards

[verbal wren]

True but it could also mostly be from my naneinf attempts

[daring perch]

not even negative tbh

[whole glacier]

Spam money and roll get stickers do it again

[shell rock]

yeah that as well

[daring perch]

i kept jimbo around for like 7 antes because he was polychrome

[whole glacier]

I cant see it as really fun

[daring perch]

i sold him for a poly even steven

[cosmic sun]

just remember, you can win with less jokers

[shell rock]

gay jimbo

[cosmic sun]

therefore less jokers in your slots = more sticker room

[shell rock]

actually heres a funny anaglyph deck run where i took a polychrome skip

[verbal wren]

Should I c++ a second time before going for naneinf again

[whole glacier]

Pair gaming for most cards I assume

[daring perch]

top tip: sell your econ jokers after the ante 8 big blind

[cosmic sun]

pretty much

[daring perch]

gay people

rocket over 8 ball here though

[shell rock]

i had hanging chad before this and 8ball actually did something

[cosmic sun]

aim for high mult scaling on everything

[daring perch]

baseball card my beloved

[shell rock]

based

[grim thunder]

And you can use Anaglyph deck with negative tags to get gold stickers in a bunch of jokers quite fast

[verbal wren]

8 ball is goated

[daring perch]

chat whats your least favorite rare

[cosmic sun]

like a fat ass red card by ante 8, past 70

[whole glacier]

Oh true ig

[daring perch]

personally for me its the tribe

[shell rock]

yes it only took oops and chad and playing 3 other 8s for it to trigger once or twice

[whole glacier]

Hit the road is useless but kinda fun, duo is prolly the most boring

[shell rock]

baron. it’s never good for what i’m building

[verbal wren]

Same tbh I almost never have a reason to use it

[daring perch]

i had one good baron run on painted and it died to the plant ante 12

[shell rock]

i love hit the road but i never find enough deckbuilding to use it well

[daring perch]

hit the road is an incredibly fun joker to use

[shell rock]

oh yeah hot take or smth

[verbal wren]

Banana and stencil somehow here still

[whole glacier]

Its shit but its fun, objectively i think

[daring perch]

hit the road is also not actually that good in terms of rares

[shell rock]

stuntman and smiley face are in my top 10 idk why

[whole glacier]

Its shit for a rare 100%

[shell rock]

it COULD be really good

[grim thunder]

Would be way better if it wasn't for the blue stake

[verbal wren]

My banana never busts so it's gonna be there forever

[daring perch]

blue stake rework save us

[whole glacier]

Maybe tribe is even more niche ig

[shell rock]

but you need a lot of jacks or a discard-increasing joker like merry andrew

[daring perch]

Tribe is easy to trigger because it's the same condition as a common it just sucks

[whole glacier]

Yeah rip 5 card builds as a whole too, except straights ig

[shell rock]

the duo is strictly better

[daring perch]

cold take all the typehand xmult rares suck at being rare

[whole glacier]

Duo is really good just boring

[shell rock]

i think the tribe should be x2.5, better than the duo and worse than the order

[verbal wren]

I like using multiple like duo and trio together

[whole glacier]

I just dont use it enough to judge it probably

[grim thunder]

Is winning boring?

[daring perch]

yeah it can be

[shell rock]

i like using the duo and the tribe and the order at oncd

[verbal wren]

Yeah

[daring perch]

have you played cryptid because that describes it perfectly

[whole glacier]

At some point i think it can become boring

Aka when it barely feels like a challenge

Anymore

[daring perch]

the game has to have some challenge to it

[verbal wren]

Cryptid is completely different to winning

[whole glacier]

Ever since ive c+ i just try to be more consistent with gold stakes win, do funny builds and try naneinf, whats the point of sweating

[daring perch]

not the spectral the mod

the spectral's fine

[verbal wren]

I know ._.

[daring perch]

oh youre just wrong then

[grim thunder]

I play on phone

[whole glacier]

Phone gang

[shell rock]

me too, i also play on pc if i want mods

[whole glacier]

I heard theres a way to mod phone tho

Its complicated tho

[verbal wren]

No the mod is literally just crazy shit thrown together and is completely unbalanced on purpose

[shell rock]

i frankly don’t trust it

[daring perch]

we're not allowed to talk about it here but yes

[grim thunder]

I've done some research, I don't even want to try that

[whole glacier]

Aaah

[daring perch]

that being said i have used it its trustworthy

[whole glacier]

Yeah its not rly legit

[daring perch]

correct

[shell rock]

also the only mod i have is pokermon, but as a completely unbiased pokemon fan it’s definitely easier but not broken

which means it doesn’t get boring!

[verbal wren]

That changes everything how can you say that's the same

[shell rock]

not yet at least

[daring perch]

it's completely unbalanced to the point where winning is boring

what's different

[shell rock]

i’m sure cryptid at least has some funny builds though

[verbal wren]

Yeah but how does that relate to vanilla winning getting boring when cryptid was never fun in the first place

[north schooner]

Once you get to c+ you will start to think that c++ is possible

[daring perch]

simile

[frank light]

i know its possible its just not worth it for me

[shell rock]

and i feel like cryptid is a lot more about how far you can break the game anyway

[daring perch]

someone asked if winning could be boring this is proof that it could

based take that cryptid was never fun though

[shell rock]

never fun is a stretch

[verbal wren]

I only played for around 2 hours and was scoring e200+ by ante 4 that isn't really fun

[whole glacier]

Yeah to me it just feels like a filler accomplishment so I get you

[verbal wren]

Maybe it's just a me thing I don't like unbalanced games I like a good challenge

[frank light]

maybe once ive done everything else there is to do in the game then maybe

but no time soon and by then i assume we'll have new updates

[whole glacier]

We think alike for this

[daring perch]

did yall struggle with unlocking jokers for completionist

[frank light]

not really struggle

[verbal wren]

No they were all pretty simple

[frank light]

but go out of my way for yeah

[daring perch]

golden ticket was awful for me

[whole glacier]

Try naneninf after c+ its fun and so different then chasing gold stakes

[verbal wren]

What was unlock?

[frank light]

i almost had naneinf day before yesterday

i threw at the last minute

[daring perch]

play a hand containing five gold cards

and they all have to score

[whole glacier]

2 hours ago

[frank light]

😭

[whole glacier]

Forgot to reroll the boss

[frank light]

i was stupid and copied the mimes instead and lost on a shit ton of scoring

and lost by like 1e

i was furious

[verbal wren]

That was easy just used the joker that changes faces into gold

[whole glacier]

Fat rip brother

[frank light]

indeed

i was so close too

one day ill get it tho

[daring perch]

i am. maybe stupid

[frank light]

also it was without perkeo too

[whole glacier]

Its fun af

[frank light]

i was lucky enough to get a negative blueprint early and was soaring

[whole glacier]

If u want the seed for the one I almost got its really fun and doable

[verbal wren]

I got it with perkeo but still took me a couple weeks since I was using ghost deck for most of the time

[frank light]

i was also on ghost deck

[mighty topaz]

I have a baron and what do I keep doing? I keep using my kings. Why is my brain wired incorrectly.

[verbal wren]

I finally switched to plasma and got it in like 5 runs

[frank light]

nah im alright i want to do it unseeded ive already gotten naneinf on a seeded run

its less rewarding

[whole glacier]

Ah okay

[frank light]

i still had to work for it and play really well but its just not the same...

[whole glacier]

Yeah ig, was proposing cause u dont know the seed its just doable

[north schooner]

It took me a month to find perkeo. I played anaglyph deck over and over and over on white stake, taking mega arcana skips after ante 8. Very rarely would I ever find souls and they always had legendaries I already had.

Eventually I gave up and started playing gold stake and got it in a couple days.

[verbal wren]

This wouldn't stop happening on ghost no perkeo=no naneinf

[verbal wren]

Wait nvm I forgot took me like 52 legendarys too find first trib

[fervent plover]

Just just need a final suggestion

Is balantro better on phones or pc?

[verbal wren]

Depends

[north schooner]

can't take your pc on the train

[verbal wren]

I prefer on phone because I mostly play in bed

[north schooner]

(phone gang)

[tranquil steppe]

For those of you who’ve gotten gold on all 150 jokers, what were the hardest ones to get gold with?

[verbal wren]

I want to do this again but it's 100% rng

[verbal wren]

I would say legendarys but I got 3 in one run took me 3 weeks for troubadour tho at 149

[shell rock]

how

[frank light]

pc id say

[shell rock]

explain

[verbal wren]

It's a bug with crimson heart and bean

[shell rock]

oh ok

[verbal wren]

I don't remember how it works last time I did it was 6+ months ago

[verbal wren]

You also need abunch of hands so you also need burglar and blueprints

[shell rock]

how long does the bug last for

[tranquil steppe]

lol so they’ve known about a bug for 6 months but never fixed it?

[verbal wren]

It's for the run

[shell rock]

could you theoretically

[verbal wren]

Yeah it's very hard too do anyways so doesn't really matter

[shell rock]

do the bug and then get a baron mime build going

[verbal wren]

Yeah most handsize I had was like 52 but couldn't find any of the jokers needed

[shell rock]

surely there’s gotta be a seed for that…

[quartz ember]

there are certainly

[timid barn]

hear me out

steam deck

you can have modded balala on the go

[verbal wren]

Yeah definitely

[quartz ember]

i would say its the easiest way to a39, since you dont need an early legendary

[shell rock]

you can apparently get modded balala on mobile without steam deck

[verbal wren]

Not allowed to talk about that here

[shell rock]

sorry, i saw it mentioned earlier and assumed it was ok

[verbal wren]

Yeah it's in the rules

[verbal wren]

It's a easy bug to do but you need alot of money and need crimson heart boss specifically

It's all down too rng

[shell rock]

why do you need a lot of money?

[verbal wren]

You need bean at full handsize

[shell rock]

yeah it wouldn’t be consistent in naneinf runs, but neither is perkeo

[verbal wren]

Pretty much how it works is bean gets disabled you lose 5 handsize and when it gets activated again you get +5 instead for the rest of the run

And it stacks

[verbal wren]

It's easier then finding perkeo most times

[shell rock]

so the more times you disable it the more handsize you get which is why you need burglar i get it now

[verbal wren]

Yeah you could watch a video on it

It's super simple just luck based

[pale grotto]

Guys i can play photochad

Should i do It?

[shell rock]

hey i did that today

[eternal anchor]

My second Gold Stake win ever, on Zodiac Deck! I really should not have taken a Ouija because it almost fucked me over

[verbal wren]

Why so blue

[daring perch]

>looks inside

[shell rock]

how do you feel about

[pale grotto]

Is the abandoned deck i have only 1 king

[verbal wren]

I love zodiac

[severe arch]

chat i'm stuck on gold stake how do i beat ogld steak the furthest i got was ante 7 :((

[pale grotto]

Very confident

[pale grotto]

Be patient

[shell rock]

lock in i guess

[verbal wren]

Get better at the game and im not joking or trying to be rude

[pale grotto]

You can do it

[formal abyss]

which deck you doing it on

[shell rock]

it usually takes a while to beat gold stake, at least in my experience

[verbal wren]

I'm gonna try bean bug ig I'm bored of current run

[formal abyss]

does anyone have a bean bug seed i wanna do goofy stuff with it

[shell rock]

im gonna go beat gold stake bye now

[verbal wren]

You also need stuntman so you don't just lose

[shell rock]

i love stuntman, it prevents me from losing a lot

[severe arch]

currently red deck

[mental valley]

Bro I can't take a picture of myself without fucking it up

[verbal wren]

It's needed for bean bug aswell

[severe arch]

wouldnt it be more luck cuz balator is gambling

[formal abyss]

ehh with the extra discard might as well run 2p or straights

hop off flushes if you havent alrd

[verbal wren]

No I've got over 1k hours It's not luck but luck can get you pretty far

[severe arch]

well ig if you do mean more skill ig what would work is better decisions, like i've been able to accumulate alot more money but i just always end up never getting any good stuff

am i not greedy enough and didnt reroll enough or

[verbal wren]

Anything can work if you know what you are doing

[severe arch]

true

[verbal wren]

Besides hit the road that joker is ass

[severe arch]

but a rule of thumb is always like, get some mult cards, chip cards, and scaling jokers

[severe arch]

what if you have a million gazillion jacks. .

[verbal wren]

You could always just get photochad it can carry almost any run lol

[severe arch]

true

[verbal wren]

I mean ig it works then

[verbal wren]

What are your least favorite jokers atm

That you think are bad

[severe arch]

monolith

i dobnt like it :(

[verbal wren]

Monolith?

Am i dumb

[severe arch]

the

".1x mult every hand that isnt your most played hand"

[daring perch]

obelisk

[verbal wren]

Oh Obelisk

[severe arch]

yea

[verbal wren]

Obelisk is very very strong

[severe arch]

i'm assuming

by switching your main hand?

like you have a main hand late in the game then when you get it you sell everything that affects the previous hand and make a new hand>

?

[verbal wren]

No you dump abunch of hands into a specific one then switch

[severe arch]

uh yea

[pale grotto]

I lost

[severe arch]

that's the problem

[verbal wren]

Like play 30 pairs early then switch too something else

[verbal wren]

Nah

[pale grotto]

Shouldnt go to photochad

[severe arch]

the problem with obelish imo

is that if you do that

yyou'd basically giving yourself a timer

like if you dont put in enough hands to your "most played hand" you're screwed

[quartz ember]

yes, but once you realize that timer only needs to be 10-15 hands long it seems a lot more reasonable

[abstract rivet]

Skip blinds

[severe arch]

but-but

[abstract rivet]

Plus remember that diminishing returns exist

[severe arch]

skipping blinds. .

is for FOOLS!

[abstract rivet]

Just stack it high enough

Skip blinds strategically

[severe arch]

Skipping Blinds. . is for BALATROS!

[north schooner]

Possibly the worst shop 1 ever?

[abstract rivet]

Like for loyalty card or preventing ancient joker debuffs on wrong suit

[verbal wren]

You can skip if needed

[severe arch]

But but. .

[abstract rivet]

Or perishables

[severe arch]

big balatro youtubers. .

[north schooner]

I guess BP could be rental perishable

[severe arch]

they

they said. .

[severe arch]

skippping blinds is evil. .

[abstract rivet]

Even they skip blinds WHEN its the right situation

RIGHT SITUATION is the keyword

Its not an always thing

You need to know when to do it

[quartz ember]

if you need to skip with obelisk you are playing it wrong, though in a pinch on ante 8...maybe

[verbal wren]

Skipping is sometimes needed

[tacit stream]

$5 is $5... or keep it for a while

[abstract rivet]

Its a very strategic play

[verbal wren]

True I've never needed too skip with it

[tranquil cargo]

one of the main reasons for orange stake rework to add perishables imo was to get people to skip more

[abstract rivet]

If u stack obelisk to like 4-5x then you are pretty much set

[valid current]

What even is your most played hand

[pale grotto]

I cant buy invisible joker someone have a 1$?

[tranquil cargo]

and sometimes it accomplishes exactly that: it is at times correct to skip to preserve perishable jokers

obelisk is kind of a perishable joker

[verbal wren]

Either hc or pair

[abstract rivet]

Like if i find a bean at like ante 6 or 7 i skip all the way to the boss if i can really use that hand size like if i have a bunch of steel or really want to dig hard into the deck for glass

[north schooner]

Yeah, rental def would be worse.

This is abando deck though, not sure I can survive with no functional joker. I was gonna take the round two investment tag too...

[abstract rivet]

Not always but sometimes

Most of the time you should be playing out all your rounds

[severe arch]

dig hard like digging into yo butt hehe

[pale grotto]

I bought a banana because i couldnt buy the invisible, just one round and Michelle is gone

[severe arch]

i was hungry :(

[verbal wren]

Yours dies?

[abstract rivet]

Lmao photochad

Also huh invisible

[verbal wren]

Stencil

[pale grotto]

Only when i dont want him to die

[abstract rivet]

I feel like stencil is probably one of my least used jokers

[north schooner]

I just bought one round one and it popped immediately. No jokers in shop after that

[severe arch]

chat how much mult additions do you draw the line between "good" and "amazing"

like is +15 mult considered amazing enough to keep late into the game?

[verbal wren]

Depends on your xmult and hand levels

[verbal wren]

Photochad is easy carry when trying to go for naneinf

[pale grotto]

Im almost new But my 5 first jokers here are Chad photo scholar blueprint and gros michel

[quartz ember]

no, but it is considered good enough to keep if you dont find anything better

generally

[verbal wren]

I hate Scholar

[granite ridge]

why

[verbal wren]

It's a bad joker and I never use aces anyways

[severe arch]

which joker is the gassiest

[granite ridge]

its not a bad joker

it does what its supposed to

[verbal wren]

It definitely is

[granite ridge]

survive early game

[verbal wren]

That doesn't make it good

[granite ridge]

and its better compared to most other option on that category

[royal bobcat]

Scholar is fine

[verbal wren]

Almost any joker can survive early

[royal bobcat]

It's not a joker you keep for that long

[granite ridge]

not baron

even tho its THE endless joker of all time

[eternal anchor]

eternal rental negative cloud 9 !?

[verbal wren]

Nobody mentioned baron

[royal bobcat]

I've won once with scholar as my only source of flat mult

On uhhh orange stake I think

[verbal wren]

Same that's how I got its gold sticker

[abstract rivet]

Literally free, just stack 9s

[granite ridge]

"almost any joker" can mean anything

[verbal wren]

It's value

[royal bobcat]

So what's your gripe with scholar then I don't get it

[granite ridge]

im just giving one example about joker thats amazing at late game but horrible at early

[abstract rivet]

Well

Baron actually works pretty good with shoot the moon

Even if its early

But like

[royal bobcat]

It's bad but good enough to give you enough flat mult to win if needed

[abstract rivet]

That hinges on another joker

[granite ridge]

thats with synergy, doesnt really fit in

[verbal wren]

Why would you mention baron which almost everyone knows isn't used that much for non endless because it's unreliable

Campfire is goated tho

[abstract rivet]

But i had pretty good runs where i start off with shoot the moon, and then build up a bunch of queens and eventually get a baron for a few kings without leveling base hand that much

[granite ridge]

because not every joker is good early game and i gave one example?

[verbal wren]

It's only really useful at Antes 1-4

[pale grotto]

I need help photo cant leave me alone
He was on the shop But i dont want him because im playing abandoned deck, i Skip with the 2 common jokers tag and now he is here

[granite ridge]

yeah thats how youre supposed to use it

[abstract rivet]

Pareidolia, standard pack, or strength the 10s to jacks

[royal bobcat]

Early seltzer is op wdym

[abstract rivet]

Ehh

[pale grotto]

Ty

[abstract rivet]

Without much enchancements early seltzer is just chips?

[verbal wren]

Yeah and baron is only really good at ante 7-39

[granite ridge]

i have no idea what are you trying to say about scholar if you are aware of that

[abstract rivet]

Seltzer feels more like a late game joker when u already built up a bunch of glass/lucky

[granite ridge]

jimbo is bad because its only viable ante 1-3

[verbal wren]

Scholar is still bad its good really early and that's it

[verbal wren]

Only ante 1 tbh

[abstract rivet]

Scholars also only 1 rank which is kinda stinky

Cuz what if you don't find the ace

[granite ridge]

same can be said about all 4 suit mult joker, mult hand type joker, chips hand type joker, popcorn, ice cream and many more

[verbal wren]

Scholar needs a small buff

[eternal anchor]

there should probably be more jokers like Walkie Talkie and Scholar

[abstract rivet]

Fibonacci covers a whole archetype, unless u mean chips+mult

[verbal wren]

Yeah they are also commons and are indeed bad overall

[eternal anchor]

yeah chips and mult at once

[abstract rivet]

Btw like

[verbal wren]

Grimbo and square the best duo in the game

[abstract rivet]

Who builds fibonacci for 8s unless u also have 8 ball

[granite ridge]

grimbo bad its only viable ante 1-5

[verbal wren]

I forgot it works on 8s I use it for 1-5 straights

[abstract rivet]

Wdym grimbo bad wadda hell

[granite ridge]

square bad it can only survive ante 1-3

[verbal wren]

Bad player spotted

[heady narwhal]

grimbo is only viable ante 1-8

[abstract rivet]

Its one of the scaling jokers u can bring to ante 8

[heady narwhal]

which is to say it's always viable

[verbal wren]

Grimbo is ante 1-8

[granite ridge]

ok was the sarcasm not clear enough my bad

[granite ridge]

yes but alone it can only survive taht far

[abstract rivet]

But yeah square is ehh unless u can also scale up something alongside it for double value

[verbal wren]

Your not gonna have it only so invalid

[eternal anchor]

Penny Joker: +1 Chip

[round nexus]

luckiest run i've ever had

[granite ridge]

you also can build retrigger, glass, x mult scaling with scholar also

[verbal wren]

True but square and grimbo is a fun combo

[granite ridge]

scholar can be viable ante 1-8

a lot of things are

[round nexus]

the question is do i sell the trib to gold sticker showman or popcorn?

[abstract rivet]

Eternal investment joker, but no money for interest

[verbal wren]

You can do that with photochad aswell and most jokers that do the same thing

[tawdry spade]

I just gotta do my victory lap to pop C++

[hardy fable]

if you can survive without trib then yea

[round nexus]

my ante 7 boss was the ox. I had 63 gold before that

[granite ridge]

ok but did you say chad or photo is bad

[abstract rivet]

Ooh dang

[terse gyro]

got a run with this on gold stake and ended with 3 new gold stickers, still got a long way to go

[granite ridge]

photo is bad alone but it can be strong with synergy

[round nexus]

i have glass so i can survive without trib. My question is should i take popcorn or showman lol

idk which one is harder to gold sticker

[abstract rivet]

Wdym photo is bad alone

2x mult is already ok for early game

[hardy fable]

imo showman

[abstract rivet]

And the fact that if works with other mult on card jokers like lusty

Just put all the mult before the face

[eternal anchor]

Probably Popcorn because it requires timing to carry beyond the finisher blind

[granite ridge]

ok whatever im still mad about dude saying scholar bad lmao

[round nexus]

but showan doesnt contribute

[verbal wren]

Why would I say that they are the strongest commons

[round nexus]

no you're right, i can carry showman if my other 4 jokers are strong enough. But i cant carry popcorn to the end