🕹・game-discussion

[modest spade]

Wait no I think I know how

[viral raft]

he's playing on mobile (i think)

[modest spade]

Antimatter and a natural negative Invisible Joker

Hi 👋

[viral raft]

yeah but still

his slots are 9

[manic talon]

nat neg invis wont increase the maximum slot

[echo tartan]

yeah

[modest spade]

Exactly

It won't

Notice the 8/9

[north schooner]

Bean bug

[manic talon]

you know it would be 9/8 on invis right, not 8/9

[echo tartan]

antimatter plus the negative still only gets you to 7 slots

[manic talon]

the first one is the current

[modest spade]

Shit you're right

I'm tripping

[echo tartan]

slots, not hand size

[north schooner]

pyromaniac build

[echo tartan]

unless there's a different bug with bean that i don't know about

[north schooner]

Ecto converts hand size to slots

[manic talon]

i mean if its mobile i would chalk it up to a mobile moment

[north schooner]

especially with perkeo there

[echo tartan]

there's only one negative

ecto applies the negative edition to cards

[north schooner]

ayup 🤷

I saw the 1 and three perkeo and my brain autocorrected it

[manic talon]

theres also another way, if its not on mobile, if youre on debug mode, you can cycle the edition of a joker you have, then if it goes from negative to a non negative (by cycling) you get to have a free joker slot

[sullen lintel]

hi banana

[echo tartan]

there's a debug mode?

[manic talon]

8 ball will gives judgements which gives more negative banana trust

[visual turtle]

Ooh a mysterious joker that's smaller than established joker size

[manic talon]

there is, the easiest way is to use the debug+ mod, but you can do it vanilla too

[visual turtle]

and marble
joker

[unborn cliff]

perkeo sticker

[wise trail]

yall just made me get Stuntman

thx yall so much

🙏

[echo tartan]

peak

[wise trail]

my 50th win too

[marble gorge]

is ts a take

[sullen lintel]

it died on boss blind in 2 rounds

[unborn cliff]

i wish squoker wasnt eternal i would have taken another jonkler along for the ride

[north schooner]

Wheeee!

[visual turtle]

Not getting marble. I do NOT want to have 9999 stone jokers and then I can't make a straight which I've invested in

[marble gorge]

is eternal oo6 worth it

[unborn cliff]

sure

[marble gorge]

ok

[visual turtle]

What is your plan

[marble gorge]

time for banana to die

[marble gorge]

pray for bloodstone

and eight ball

which I have

[visual turtle]

i see

YAY VAMPIRE

[olive fiber]

There’s no fucking way! 😂

[marble gorge]

also how did 8ball work 3 times in a row without 006

[north schooner]

Trevelyan

[marble gorge]

que?

[visual turtle]

Time to kill erosion

[north schooner]

1 in 64 chance, coincidentally

[unborn cliff]

1 in 67

[north schooner]

I only know pre-brainrot memes

[heavy scarab]

New best hand

I love this game

[echo tartan]

nice

[unborn cliff]

mogged

[heavy scarab]

I just got the game last week

[marble gorge]

someone quick show naneinf best hand

[visual turtle]

Mmmm composite number

[echo tartan]

close enough

[north schooner]

nan is not greater than 8.4e7

[unborn cliff]

i got it today twin

[marble gorge]

pretty sure man

[visual turtle]

I like vampire now

[unborn cliff]

is ts bait

[echo tartan]

what

[fringe crest]

anyone else ever seen the score go to 10.000e at this high of a score?

[echo tartan]

no that's weird

[visual turtle]

No

[echo tartan]

actually it's not

[fringe crest]

ig im just goated

[unborn cliff]

do you happen to have talisman installed

[fringe crest]

no mods im mobile

[north schooner]

iiiinteresting

[echo tartan]

well

nevermind it is weird

[unborn cliff]

bro my school high score mogs my main profile 😭✌️

[north schooner]

ask your computer if NaN > 8.7e7. It will say false.

[echo tartan]

how is it bait

[slender creek]

me instead of doing my 37 missed assignments

[echo tartan]

real

[dreamy creek]

guh

[unborn cliff]

i'm passing all my classes i have nothing to do 🤓

[slender creek]

i’m failing 2 classes rn

[unborn cliff]

😂

[dreamy creek]

real

[fringe crest]

it would have been naneinf if the last voucher wasnt retcon

[unborn cliff]

teach thinks im paying attention but im busy playing the latro

[visual turtle]

Oh nevermind I lost

[slender creek]

😭😭😭😭😭son😭😭😭😭😭you dont know jimbo like that 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[fringe crest]

i think my highscores went e20 - e55 - e124 -e232

e20 was from a yorick run

[hot prawn]

ok yeah but you cashed out $140 dollars from cloud 9 which is kind of crazy

[spring dragon]

Oh my gosh! A super rare soul card! Surely this will improve my scoring tenfold!

The nefarious Chicot:

[echo tartan]

most legendaries don't even do that

[slender creek]

chicot hate is so forced

[fringe crest]

i scored that right before i died so techincally it was at 145 but i dont have a ss😔

[unborn cliff]

literally all of them increase score except for chicot

thats why people hate him

[slender creek]

chicot is just a babeh 🥹🥹🥹

[unborn cliff]

is because he doesnt give you score

[spring dragon]

Canio, Trib, Yorick, Perkeo with observatory

[fringe crest]

chicot is goated its just not good for breaking the game

[echo tartan]

every single legendary is situational

[north schooner]

I wonder if you hit 10 exactly here?

[visual turtle]

I skipped 2 blinds

[echo tartan]

besides perkeo and sometimes yorick

[unborn cliff]

yorick
looks inside
discard

[visual turtle]

Just for eternal hit the road

[echo tartan]

gold stake:

[visual turtle]

💔

[unborn cliff]

canio
looks inside
destroy face card

[fringe crest]

i think so because if i was even 1 chip over it would have displayed 1.000e21

[spring dragon]

Idk bout goated, he's good and can save runs

[visual turtle]

Good. Face cards can die

[spring dragon]

But after that one boss blind, he's basically useless

[vocal rose]

okay

[echo tartan]

canio
why can't i destroy things
my life is miserable

[fringe crest]

imo hes the 2nd best gold stake legendary

[slender creek]

start run
win blind
go to shop
get a joker

[dreamy creek]

face cards are goated

[north schooner]

1e22, but yeah

[fringe crest]

🤓

[vestal fern]

wee joker is the behbeh

[spring dragon]

There's only one 1st favorite legendary that can save this

[fringe crest]

canio is my #4 but whenever i get it i love the run

[visual turtle]

What do you even do on gold stake

[fringe crest]

its not bad but i think the others are netter

[north schooner]

well, not one chip, but 1 in the significand

[spring dragon]

mods, rip his throat out

[dreamy creek]

onviously chicot is #1

[vestal fern]

real photo of wee joker btw

[visual turtle]

also does a stone card count as an enhancement

perchance

[echo tartan]

yes

[vestal fern]

same guy who managed to defeat Crimson Heart btw

[dreamy creek]

mayhaps

[slender creek]

stop scaling my chips
wee joker: i’m just a behbeh 🥺🥺🥺

[marble gorge]

printblue is that you

[dreamy creek]

b'ueprint at home

[unborn cliff]

chicot is my ‎|| ‎‎ ‎‎ ‎‎ ‎‎‎ ‎‎ ‎‎ ‎‎ ‎‎ ‎ ‎‎‎ ‎‎ ‎‎ ‎‎ ‎‎ ‎‎ ‎‎ ‎‎ ‎‎ ‎‎ ‎‎ ‎‎ ‎‎ ‎‎ ‎‎ ‎ ‎‎ ‎‎ ‎|| joker

[visual turtle]

Ok might die because having x1.1 multi doesn't do anything

[fringe crest]

no money on first blind increased blind scaling (4x by end of run) eternal, perishable, and rental jokers -1 discard

[dreamy creek]

guh

[fringe crest]

did i miss any

[visual turtle]

that's a
lot
of
things

[spring dragon]

What are some of the craziest canio seeds yall got

[fringe crest]

uhh

[unborn cliff]

aleeb

[slender creek]

i’m gatekeeping lwk

[spring dragon]

Why
Are
You
Talking like
This?

[visual turtle]

just
a
way
i like to format text sometimes

[spring dragon]

Ok
That's
Neat

[fringe crest]

double canio pareiadolia tc and i found another invisible but i was playing on the most dogshit deck ever painted

[visual turtle]

yippee i lost

[hot prawn]

[fringe crest]

that
is
unfortunate

[unborn cliff]

[fringe crest]

wouldnt save me because i absolutely love not looking at what the boss blind debuff is

thats a real giggler

[spring dragon]

As a Canio enjoyer, I shall now make a slur for face cards

[visual turtle]

Ok maybe

[fringe crest]

no no we dont do slurs here

[visual turtle]

Using my 2 discards to make

1 full house again

[simple bronze]

i win right

[visual turtle]

and skipping 2 blinds is not a good idea 🥰

[fringe crest]

is that him or a mod deleting

[echo tartan]

probably a bad idea

[fringe crest]

cant decide too early no x mult yet

[north schooner]

yes... definitely....

[spring dragon]

It's a great idea

Fuck them face cards bro

[fringe crest]

ok the mods will banish you to the 24 hour timeout if you keep doing allat prob

[spring dragon]

I'll ask

<@&1133519078540185692> is it okay if I invent a slur for face cards?

[visual turtle]

.

[mortal nimbus]

[fringe crest]

🫩

[floral mural]

pointless mod ping

[north schooner]

while you're at it, ask if they can @ everyone

[fringe crest]

me when im an annoying person

[floral mural]

youre getting banished for the next couple days

[craggy hearth]

😞

[left juniper]

I think it's less ok to randomly ping them...

[visual turtle]

That is a weird thing to um ask

[fringe crest]

hi lolhappy909_lol how are you

[smoky merlin]

???

[visual turtle]

Ooh look

2 mods

In the wild

[final viper]

boo!

[craggy hearth]

PLEASE ping mods for serious purposes only, we could care less about hating on face cards

[smoky merlin]

those vicious visages deserve what they have coming

[echo tartan]

wouldn't it be couldn't care less?

[simple bronze]

but i have money now...

[final viper]

shoot the moon slader will NOT be tolerated

[visual turtle]

do i get burglar
or do I not

[fringe crest]

i love stm

[smoky merlin]

bus riders rise up

[north schooner]

omg you made a smart choice

[final viper]

[fringe crest]

i never use rtb

[visual turtle]

Wait

[left juniper]

A common that can easily give at least +13 mult in early antes? People woud be silly to slander

[visual turtle]

how do I

[fringe crest]

Ok i will wajt6

[visual turtle]

survive without

any

Discords

[fringe crest]

how old are you?

[final viper]

you are allowed more than three words per message by the way

[north schooner]

It works in all configurations

[fringe crest]

that

[fervent wolf]

Joker idea: lucky coin

Uncommon, 6 dollars

All discarded gold cards give 4 dollars

[fringe crest]

is

very

smart

of

yku

you

sorry

[smoky merlin]

stop

[echo tartan]

no this game is not real, no way

[fringe crest]

yes sir it will never happen again

[final viper]

😭 ur all cooked (not u vonnegut) im leaving

[left juniper]

I have a friend who I feel like presses enter whenever they take a breath. Drives me insane

[fringe crest]

bye

[north schooner]

pairs are now your discords

[left juniper]

Weeeeeeee

[echo tartan]

and then i get an oops

[rare oxide]

new high score xd

[echo tartan]

like are we for real

[visual turtle]

I didn't even realize i spelt that wrong

[fringe crest]

gg now do it on gold stake

[rare oxide]

getting there

[visual turtle]

wait how can i even do the boss

nvm

[simple bronze]

uuhhhhh what do i sell

[proper oasis]

Rough Gem sticker claimed!

[fervent wolf]

Jolly or egg leaves here

[simple bronze]

why not odd todd

[visual turtle]

Hooray 1 ante down

Something to go

[simple bronze]

burnt gives me chips

[fervent wolf]

He's just an odd guy!

[north schooner]

😈 sell everything and take both the madness and blueprint

[simple bronze]

i can only chose 1

[proper oasis]

Left: Showman, Superposition, Marble, Seltzer
Of which Seltzer is the most annoying (or maybe Showman)

[north schooner]

that's why I said madness first

[proper oasis]

I'd love a Marble+Hologram run

[north schooner]

it goes, boys

[visual turtle]

I think i need xMulti

Quickly

baseball card is kinda useless but ill take it

[north schooner]

baseball card is great, I guess unless you have a hand full of commons and rares

[visual turtle]

So ummm

what do i do about the eye

[fervent wolf]

He's keeping an eye for ya

[simple bronze]

i take photo?

[north schooner]

What's your situation?

[north schooner]

Hand levels?

[north schooner]

Burglar is copy able by the way, you'll get 6 extra hands instead of 3 if you copy it when you select blind

[trail hemlock]

Oh my

[visual turtle]

Ooooh

[trail hemlock]

Where did I put my gavel..

[north schooner]

Check if there's an uncommon in that judgement first

[visual turtle]

oh it's too late, i got brianstorm

[north schooner]

Yeah Not worth the risk to sell summit to check

[visual turtle]

Wow 10 hands

That's 2 hands 5 times and thats a lot of hands

[north schooner]

Eye still gets you though, probs

[simple bronze]

oh yesss i win now

[north schooner]

I mean, you can throw hands away to try to draw a straight or flush or full house or whatever

Planets will help

Glass cards if you gottem

[visual turtle]

Yay i did it

[simple bronze]

oh...

burnt doesn't help

[visual turtle]

oh thats the needle

[simple bronze]

i'm cooked

[visual turtle]

Oooh

The burglar can give me hands even during the needle

that's good

[twin lantern]

[marble gorge]

good run right now

nat neg bp and bloodstone

[visual turtle]

Do i replace mystic summit with either of these two?

[vocal rose]

least useful rocket

[marble gorge]

is baron a take there

here

[hoary yacht]

This cat is the best thing ever!

[twin lantern]

6 7

[visual turtle]

Fibonacci 🥰

[twin lantern]

No

[echo tartan]

gato is, in fact peak

[hoary yacht]

22 8's in deck mostly sporting lucky card. I'm gettign there.

[fading mango]

took a break from my run but im back with another good attempt, hows my current line up doing do you think

trying to find mine

[west copper]

Mid run hold r

[echo tartan]

solid

[fading mango]

how many cryptids woul i need rn

i assume i could do it with just this but id be horribly inefficient

[west copper]

Definitely more then 6

Maybe more then 7

[twin lantern]

you need more

[fading mango]

50 im guessing

round there

maybe more

ive never done this so i wanna get it right

[manic talon]

way more without mime, like WAY more

[fading mango]

alright, good to know

any other cards besides mine that explode score?

[manic talon]

handsize i guess, or handsize adjacent items like DNA

but mostly mime and copiers

[fading mango]

also my deck is very reasonably thinned

ive not copied anything yet

and i have a red seal hidden in my cryptid mass

ill wing it and see how it goes

[echo tartan]

just keep yourself safe

[fading mango]

ye

[visual turtle]

losing blue stake abandoned deck is starting to get
booooring

[olive fiber]

Bro blue print first shop and showman second shop first ante

wtf? This is seed?

[visual turtle]

oh wow

I somehow played my entire deck of hearts in one round

[echo tartan]

i decked out 🙂

[visual turtle]

Now how does one earn 100,000,000 chips

[echo tartan]

get a lot of xmult

[visual turtle]

Ohh

[fading mango]

plasma deck

[echo tartan]

i don't like that people just say "plasma deck" whenever people are trying to clear a score challenge

that kind of creates the misconception that plasma is bar none the best deck

[echo tartan]

nice!

[olive fiber]

This isn’t plasma deck btw

[echo tartan]

lol

[olive fiber]

This is checkered deck 😂

[echo tartan]

i was not referring to you in that message

[olive fiber]

I know

[echo tartan]

ok

[floral mural]

the real answer is doing a white stake endless attempt

[olive fiber]

Astronomer came back 😂😂

[floral mural]

baron mime or idol

[echo tartan]

true

possible with other strategies too

like if you just get good econ and find a whole bunch of good scaling xmult

[floral mural]

100 mil doesnt require perfect optimization it mostly just needs a solid amount of xmult

[echo tartan]

yeah

i just got a run where my build consisted of a wee, the trio, and three cats

it scored 30,000,000,000

[simple bronze]

i take joker right?

[echo tartan]

nah take misprint

[simple bronze]

misprint is not very good

[echo tartan]

gambling funnier

[simple bronze]

it is not consistent

[native sedge]

hello im kinda new to this game

[echo tartan]

it also tells you the card on the top of your deck

[echo tartan]

cool

[native sedge]

can someone recommend a joker combo for red deck white stakes, i mainly play flushes or three of a kind or sometimes 2 pair

[simple bronze]

burnt, green, burgler delayed grat and the order

[fading mango]

mime is an ilusive one, ive rerolled like well over 100 times

the bitch is sneaky

[echo tartan]

if you find a joker that gives chips, a joker that gives additive mult, and a few jokers that multiply your mult, you should be golden

[native sedge]

ive been trying that but i keep losing bc of the boss blinds

i hate the one that like requires you to play a certain hand only or 5 cards required

[echo tartan]

fair enough

[native sedge]

im currently trying campfire but ive won a few runs by relying on the joker that gives 4 bucks every round and ceremonial dagger

[echo tartan]

okay

so when you play 3 of a kind or two pair, do you just play the 3 of a kind or two pair?

[native sedge]

i usually try stacking planet cards

[native sedge]

like 1 run i just get to level 5 and pray for that one joker

the one from nebula deck

[echo tartan]

okay, so i meant when you actually play the hand

[slow iris]

xmult that triggers on score + some retriggers

[native sedge]

yeah its usually just that

[echo tartan]

okay so you can play 5 cards no matter what

even if you're playing a two pair or 3oak

[native sedge]

but thatll go to full house and it doesnt level

[native sedge]

so ill js play full houses?

[simple bronze]

i win right

[echo tartan]

yeah but you don't have to pick a pair

[native sedge]

whats that castle thing?

[simple bronze]

castle joker?

[native sedge]

yeah never seen it

whats it do?

[echo tartan]

like you can do this

[simple bronze]

gives you chips when you discard

[echo tartan]

cards of specific suits

[native sedge]

oh so just put another card

ah ok

[echo tartan]

yeah

[native sedge]

got it

[visual turtle]

Ohh

[simple bronze]

huh hows that a 2 paiur

[echo tartan]

the king doesn't score

the game ignores it

[simple bronze]

oh i thought that was another queen

[echo tartan]

nah

[simple bronze]

i take hermit righjt?

[echo tartan]

duh 🙄

[ember plinth]

plasma is genuinely the worst deck in the game

[simple bronze]

wtf i didn't get 40 dollars

[ember plinth]

picked balatro up again and Id rather do black deck

[echo tartan]

why do you think it feels so bad

[ember plinth]

bc the scaling past purple stake is massive

[echo tartan]

oh plasma gold stake

[vocal rose]

its prob the second worst

[ember plinth]

so you almost always need a super overkill xmult build

[echo tartan]

that is fully understandable, that's pain to complete

[simple bronze]

analgyph is the wrost

[vocal rose]

bc the 2x scaling

[ember plinth]

or a very lucky chips build

[vocal rose]

you're the worst

[simple bronze]

this is ggs

[unreal island]

its just too different from the other decks

[simple bronze]

i take barron and the order

[echo tartan]

the 2x scaling hardly matters when you focus all of your scoring into either chips or mult and it gets squared

[ember plinth]

plasma just feels rly bad bc you almost always waste more time in it even if it takes less runs

[vocal rose]

no thats literally the only reason why plasma is hard

[ember plinth]

bdeck runs usually die early

[ember plinth]

yeah

[vocal rose]

it definitely matters

[simple bronze]

nah i can consistently get to ante 7 just messing around

[echo tartan]

the 2x scaling isn't the part that matters

[simple bronze]

ante 8 is where i ususally die

[vocal rose]

you can SOMEWHAT get 800k scoring from chips consistently

you cannot do that for violet vessel

[unreal island]

chip only plasma deck runs on gold stake rarely win btw

[vestal fern]

WHICH bdeck???

There's like two bdecks

[echo tartan]

i am aware

[vocal rose]

so your runs would just have a 20% chance of ending if you make a chips build unless you find a way to score 1600 chips per hand

[ember plinth]

i feel the opposite, once i get econ going in black deck it feels like smooth sailing

[unreal island]

banaglyph

[vocal rose]

once again

[ember plinth]

black

[fading mango]

welp i failed to get naninf, 15 antes later, 11 rerolls each blind and mime did not show

sage

[vocal rose]

yes thats where it matters

[simple bronze]

don't need econ when you geot credit card

[vocal rose]

the balancing part wouldnt be an issue if it had regular scaling but that would be way too easy

[ember plinth]

real credit carders rise up

[visual turtle]

Credit card 💔

[floral mural]

if plasmas downside didnt matter it wouldnt be hard

[visual turtle]

I LOVE going into negative debt

/src

[unreal island]

ah yes bc the debt gives you +1 joker slot!

[visual turtle]

what do you even do in negatives

[celest trellis]

yummy debt

[ember plinth]

its just annoying bc plasma makes it very hard to win with a run that's barely scraping by

[vocal rose]

I just did photochad for plasma

on purple stake+

[ember plinth]

I did chad and retriggers usually

aside from one run where i got the stone jokers and hologram

[floral mural]

a reason i dont enjoy plasma is gonna sound real weird. i dont like having to ignore mult early on in a way

i dont like an important part of the scoring formula being much worse now

[vocal rose]

that is weird since I like being able to play flushes and win ante 1-2

[floral mural]

also my score estimations are like way worse on plasma than other decks

[rich depot]

i like having a big number on my stat sheet

[visual turtle]

So plasma deck equation is essentially:
Chips/multi = result * result

?

[vocal rose]

if you have 10 million mult

it gets split into 5 million chips times 5 million mult

[floral mural]

its (chips +mult) divided by 2 and then squared

[visual turtle]

Ohh

[floral mural]

i should do more black deck attempts

still only on black stake but its not as awful as it seemed at first

[pale grotto]

I love photochad

[visual turtle]

Would 1,111,111 chips get split into 555,554 chips and + multi

[floral mural]

i die with 6 minutes of investment into a run usually if a black deck run gets past ante 4 it wins

[ember plinth]

its just rly annoying econ wise

[floral mural]

plasmas the opposite which makes it more tiling

dying on ante 6 because you couldnt do the xmult pivot is way worse for me than dying ante 2 on black deck

[urban sun]

sadness

[visual turtle]

What if there was an anti plasma deck where the chips and multi were unbalanced

[floral mural]

what would your score being imbalanced even do then

[lunar zealot]

looooooong straight

[visual turtle]

Maybe
(Chips +multi) * 2 then square rooted

[simple bronze]

how do i lose here

[pale grotto]

Todd odd didnt carry???

[floral mural]

a bad draw would do that

also ruining your econ by using credit card unnecessarily would also do that

i hope you used credit card out of desperation and not just "ooo 20 dollars"

[simple bronze]

its free 20 dollar

[floral mural]

it is not

[simple bronze]

yes it is

first shop i get free 20 dolllar

[visual turtle]

Oh yeah

[visual turtle]

And also the deck is like erratic, but it will randomly choose one card and make 5 extra copies of it when starting

Considering making it so you start the run with showman too

or the observer(?) voucher

[floral mural]

so uhh that method would cause a big drop in score

[visual turtle]

I guess the requirement will be ½ too for anti-plasma deck

[floral mural]

square roots are not usually big

[visual turtle]

This kind of feels more like a challenge deck now

[lunar zealot]

ello ello

[lunar zealot]

-18 dollars?

why

[simple bronze]

this is ggs right?

[simple bronze]

i HAD CREDIT CARD WHY IS THAT CARD TO UNDERSTAND

[lunar zealot]

credit card on ante 4?

that's on you

[floral mural]

kami its because its a free 20 dollars

ima be honest id never use credit card outside desperation moves

[visual turtle]

Sooo black deck

[floral mural]

ruining your interest and locking in a joker slot for 20 dollars has to have a good reason for it

[simple bronze]

this is ggs

[lunar zealot]

you still die to vv

[visual turtle]

Violet vessel 💔

[lunar zealot]

nice gg

i can't take camp because it gimps my dagger

the alternative is feeding blueprint

but then again that sounds DEEPLY deeply funny

[floral mural]

with all that xmult i dont think youll miss it tbh

[twin lantern]

Campfire is also better with an open joker slot

[lunar zealot]

+20 i think would be good enough

[lunar zealot]

campfire is also better if it's being copied

[twin lantern]

20 is not great

[lunar zealot]

i have 4 xmult jokers and foil dagger

if i just get mercuries i can still scale my +mult

let's just hope i don't get ante 7 flint and i win

[twin lantern]

I was saying campire is a really bad pick here because you wanna keep blueprint

[upbeat ruin]

wth i was just playing and found this seed C21AVDPI with two blueprints
one negative

[lunar zealot]

2 rentals doesn't matter because i have seed money

[lunar zealot]

well i mean yolo yknow

[twin lantern]

Just grow your dagger

You can easily get to 50 or so which would be a x2

[lunar zealot]

thanks wheel

[twin lantern]

Massive

[simple bronze]

nu uh

[lunar zealot]

getting a lot of gold cards massively alleviates my double rentals

[simple bronze]

i win

[lunar zealot]

i fucking love zodiac deck

[simple bronze]

black deck gold or nebula gold is harder? those are the last 2 i have left

[lunar zealot]

black is hard

nebula is just boring

[simple bronze]

nebula i had a harder time getting a run goin

[lunar zealot]

QVHJDSVHGKSDHBKRHBKGDSFBJK

[simple bronze]

but black deck gold i shard

[serene forge]

I hate Photograph

[serene forge]

because you took a fucking eternal credit card

[simple bronze]

black deck gives less money

so i took credit card

[lunar zealot]

oh nooo verdant leaf whatever will i do

[floral mural]

credit card early on on black deck sounds like a one way ticket to never getting econ setup

[simple bronze]

nope

just need wrath

ez

[serene forge]

black deck makes it harder to get interest so you take credit card to guarantee that you'll never get interest ever?

[visual turtle]

Black deck sounds like misery

[serene forge]

legitimately do you even care about being better at this game

[floral mural]

reset because the runs clearly over

[serene forge]

its ok if you don't but if that's a case you can't complain about losing so much

[lunar zealot]

beats vv by the way

LMAO

[floral mural]

or just do anything because i dont i think i ever had a run which actually feared leaf

[lunar zealot]

dagger is at +20

god i love zodiac deck holy shit

[simple bronze]

i am good at game see

[floral mural]

what if im using on scored? i sell the econ joker i still have easy

[simple bronze]

there are just unwinable seeds

[serene forge]

weakest campfire and blackboard setup

[serene forge]

people have won on a glitched seed with only fucking planets

don't blame your failures on bad rng

[serene forge]

how the fuck do you have 10k high cards played but only 95 billion as a top score

[lunar zealot]

i think we're failing to address why credit card is bad

credit card is bad because its entire purpose incentivizes being below 0 dollars

[serene forge]

we already did

we explained how it ruins your interest

[lunar zealot]

which the only use case for is in the super early game to buy out the shop

early-mid, mid, mid-late and endgame credit card is strictly worse than even golden joker

[simple bronze]

it synergizes well with flash!

[floral mural]

credit card is a desperation joker

[serene forge]

credit card is good for $1 temperance value 👍

[lunar zealot]

let me finish

[serene forge]

how

you're killing your econ by being in debt

[finite spade]

hi chat i'm 1 joker away from c++ and that joker is faceless

[lunar zealot]

interest is important, probably the most important thing about econ

[floral mural]

no it doesnt. a 20 dollar loan you have to pay back isnt a good effect you can abuse

[serene forge]

credit card lets you get like +6 on flash card in exchange for never having money ever again

[lunar zealot]

one of rebate's biggest strengths is that every time it procs you also gain an additional interest threshold

thereby it gives $6 dollars per instead of $5 dollars per

it's why it's so good

[unreal island]

Card: hi

[visual turtle]

Aren't you always in desperation in black deck

[floral mural]

honestly id say vagabond credit card isnt even good since just use the cards if selling gets yoy over the limit

[twin lantern]

my most played hand is flush am i cooked ?

[lunar zealot]

interest is one of the most important things in the game and in 90% of circumstances you always want to be on the interest cap at 25 dollars

it

[unreal island]

Yeah

[visual turtle]

Depends on context

[lunar zealot]

is basically passive income

[floral mural]

nope. successful black deck runs usually stabilize

[lunar zealot]

1 free reroll per round

[floral mural]

its a hard stabilization process

but you do that

[serene forge]

yeah credit card is just something that happens to kind of synergize with vaga

[lunar zealot]

and consider that rentals are as devastating as they are early game because you are so gimped at stabilizing your econ to get to interest thresholds

[serene forge]

it's still not particularly useful

[visual turtle]

And by stabilize you mean they get specific jokers early on to live?

[lunar zealot]

an early blueprint kills your run

[serene forge]

because staying at <4 dollars to proc vaga isn't even a problem

[lunar zealot]

an early rental kills your run

[unreal island]

5 signs you might be a secret jimbo male (is it better than alpha?)

[lunar zealot]

just because credit card lets you buy blueprint and use rentals

doesn't mean it won't kill your run

[lunar zealot]

i am a woman

[serene forge]

"specific jokers" being literally anything that produces scoring

black deck's +1 joker slot means you can afford to pick up some garbage eternal joker early game just to stay alive

[floral mural]

a droll joker goes a long way on black deck early game

[vocal rose]

me when I pick up the eternal droll joker but the hook kills me

[finite spade]

5 signs you might be a secret jimbo female (is it better than alpha?)

[serene forge]

ante 1 hook is genuinely hateful ngl

[unreal island]

Any +mult does tbh

[lunar zealot]

Dude i once lost to the hook on painted deck eith 3 copies of aj

single lowest point as a player i have ever had

[serene forge]

i lost to ante 2 small blind on black deck with 2 copies of ancient jonkler

[visual turtle]

I got the duo

[serene forge]

i fucking hate flushes theyre so bad

[floral mural]

yeah. as long as its not like swash

[serene forge]

or bootstraps

[lunar zealot]

or ft

[visual turtle]

ok i might lose

2 * 2 multi isn't big

enough

[visual turtle]

Help-

[dreamy creek]

perish

[floral mural]

did you take xmult over flat mult ante like 2?

[lunar zealot]

Play a fhouse

[dreamy creek]

x mult gaming

we love x mult

[visual turtle]

Previous attempt was anti 1 💔

[vocal rose]

you're cooked man

[visual turtle]

Also i should like REALLY

stop making full houses

[vocal rose]

how are u so ah

[visual turtle]

And not having any discards left

[dreamy creek]

[vocal rose]

just play flushes

[floral mural]

honestly id say you rarely take xmult over econ/tarot gen and flat mult ante 1

[visual turtle]

Ew those

[dreamy creek]

full house sucks, both the hand and the show

[vocal rose]

why would you not play flushes ante 1

[lunar zealot]

I feel like

[floral mural]

tbh flushes arent bad ante 1

[lunar zealot]

you're not listening to a word we're saying

[visual turtle]

oh if its just ante one than that's good

[vocal rose]

they're quite literally the best for ante 1

[lunar zealot]

and that's ultimately hurting you in the long run out of a need to be contrarian

i think that says something about you as a person

[simple bronze]

but i got vegabon

[vocal rose]

I think he's actually a super genius by playing the long game

[simple bronze]

you just said it synergizes well

[lunar zealot]

do you like

not know how to read

[vocal rose]

of building up the ragebait

[visual turtle]

I got
mad joker

[vocal rose]

slowly and slowly

[simple bronze]

its fine, i got hermit so my debt will reset

[vocal rose]

because its either that or he's actually slow

no inbetween

proving my point

[lunar zealot]

well i like to never attribute to malice what can be adequately attributed to stupidity

[vocal rose]

either way I'd never wanted to be attributed to either

but thats just the only solutions

[lunar zealot]

it's similarly stupid to be a ragebaiter in balatrocord of all places as it's harming the good will of people here who genuinely want to help you

and crying wolf will just make you a pariah

[cosmic sun]

brags about winning rng -> posts screenshots of them dying to the same rng

karma works out in the end

[shell rock]

i’m not winning balatro what do i do

[lunar zealot]

Case in point

[lunar zealot]

Play more pairs

[cosmic sun]

the decisions they make shrimply cause the rng

[vocal rose]

score above the requirement to beat ante 8

thats how you win

[shell rock]

i did 🙁

but i lost in ante 7 because i didn’t draw one of the 15 cards i needed

[lunar zealot]

Play pairs

[shell rock]

fine…

but i liked my flush house build

[lunar zealot]

WHY do we lose runs
Number 1: Your Jokers Suck ass
Number 2: The Boss blind Fucks you
NUMBER C: you Dont draw your Dogshit hand

[shell rock]

thats accurate

[vocal rose]

my favorite number C

[lunar zealot]

These are the Only 3 ways you lose runs

How to Solve:

Play PAIRS

[shell rock]

im mostly irritated because i actually had deckbuilding this run

[vocal rose]

well

clearly not

since you passed away

[lunar zealot]

NUMBER C

you dont draw your Dogshit hand

[shell rock]

whatever i still like flush house

[lunar zealot]

This stems from a lack of econ

which stems from a bad early game

[hasty tendon]

these two appeared in the same shop, hm.

[lunar zealot]

which stems fromNot playing pairs

[shell rock]

no i had good econ

[lunar zealot]

Sell baron

play towards trib

[hasty tendon]

but baron gets u nanenif

but trib doesnt

[shell rock]

but baron is ass

[lunar zealot]

are you playing plasma deck white stake

[hasty tendon]

yeah

[slender nebula]

balatord

[lunar zealot]

ummm

[hasty tendon]

tryna get unseeded nanenif

[shell rock]

oh

ok then keep baron

[lunar zealot]

trib isn't how you get that

[hasty tendon]

exactly

[lunar zealot]

trib just gives you a free early game

[hasty tendon]

thats why trib is useless

[lunar zealot]

you need to get absurd amounts of money

or just reset for perkeo

[hasty tendon]

yes i know that

[terse dock]

Overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer.

[visual turtle]

yay wheel of fortune worked 🥰

[serene forge]

the funniest thing is yesterday where they threw a blueprint parking poly pants run on like ante 4 then concluded the seed must be possible

[urban sun]

i love c++ said no one ever

[floral mural]

ante 4 isnt even when xmult is needed what the hell

was it needle or something?

[visual turtle]

wait you don't need xmulti on ante 4????

[floral mural]

or that common pants mistake of leveling up two pair

[serene forge]

i really want to think this is just really bad ragebait or something

[serene forge]

they died to big blind

i think

[lunar zealot]

i think they're just

[urban sun]

why did i use to like anaglyph deck this is pain

[lunar zealot]

the epitome of the phrase

[lunar zealot]

You know the one

[visual turtle]

oh judgement gave me red card 💔

[terse dock]

Overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer.

[floral mural]

because unless you get a good tag the decks just vanilla

red card is good tho

like really good

[visual turtle]

but i have hologram

[lunar zealot]

red card =/= skip every pack

[terse dock]

what's the holo at

[warm kindle]

Yellow deck but without the money

[floral mural]

ok? just take the standard pack cards and skip everything else

[visual turtle]

2.25 ante 4

[serene forge]

ante 3 not 4 LMAO

[lunar zealot]

red card makes every pack useful in some way---in an ideal world you will open every pack every shop, and not all of them will have hanged man, a joker you want, immolate, mercury, etc etc
in this sense red card contributes as both a scoring (helping you win) joker and as a utility (gives dud packs the ability to still contribute to scoring) joker
helping matters is its +mult per pack skipped, and comparing the overall +mult to its peers, green joker and ride the bus
the latter 2 gain +1 mult per hand; on most decks that is 12 mult per ante; in contrast, red card is +18 mult per ante should you skip all 6 packs per ante
However this +6 mult is often not seen much as a straight upside in terms of mult per ante because rarely do you ever skip every pack in a given ante; in this sense it should be thought of as a buffer to let you weigh what packs to skip and which ones to take, as overall red card has more variance in favor of it gaining mult compared to its peers due to that fact
overall red card simply covers a very solid utility niche of making every pack opened useful whether it be through offering the card you want, or by giving +mult to red card (and it cannot be overstated that a niche like this is Very Good) while also being a good scaling +mult joker in its own right

[warm kindle]

It means skip most packs

[twin lantern]

i like red card but i havent been able to use it effectively

[serene forge]

good

[lunar zealot]

Not that either

[lunar zealot]

Refer to this guide

[visual turtle]

It's too late again I sold it

[serene forge]

red card is 2nd best mult scaler

[terse dock]

Christ could you just link to it instead of pasting it

[visual turtle]

Before this valuable information

came into play

[vocal rose]

wah wah

[lunar zealot]

Balatro players hate having to do anything other than what is specifically on screen

[warm kindle]

I usually only take stuff from packs if its money, suit changers (if I need them), death or hang man

Sometimes ill take glass

[terse dock]

Piss off zoahl

[warm kindle]

And for standard packs and celestial packs just blue seals and whatever hand im using

[floral mural]

glass with red card is very unnecessary

your mult is coming from red card

[serene forge]

the amount of times i've seen someone post a game screenshot in this chat with youtube playing on the screen

[eternal igloo]

Cat is at zero, I just bought it, Obelisk showed up on the reroll.

Can I go to it here? Dropping the cat, buying the Ob, not sure I can get it high enough fast enough to make up for losing 1X on the Stencil Joker.

Advice?

(Context: I'm working on C++ so getting a gold tag on the Ob would be a great outcome, but not at the cost of losing the run)

[terse dock]

98% of balatro players cant read anyway so what's the point

[serene forge]

ive legit never seen this anywhere as much as here

[floral mural]

is it better that i just shove the video in the background as noise while playing?

[warm kindle]

True actually

[vocal rose]

time for obelisk

[lunar zealot]

What's the point of anything when we're all going to die

[floral mural]

i cant handle watching 2 things at once. the game and a video

[warm kindle]

I was definitely thinking of glass joker trust

[serene forge]

they dont like that either they'll see plant while running photochad and then throw a tantrum immediately

[twin lantern]

cat obelisk

wait

[vocal rose]

oh you have no chips

[terse dock]

Meet & fuck kingdom, Kami.

[lunar zealot]

MEET N HUH

[eternal igloo]

yeah my chips are not great.

[vocal rose]

never mind then

[twin lantern]

foil hacks got u covered

[vocal rose]

the +50 chips from hack isnt enough

[warm kindle]

Red card is prob like top 10 jokers for me

[vocal rose]

valid

[twin lantern]

ik

[twin lantern]

Wtf is this deck

[vocal rose]

heres my top 11

[twin lantern]

😭

[eternal igloo]

Lotta magic hackables which is why Cat was a no-brainer... but it's already got a gold chip

[warm kindle]

Chichot 💀

[terse dock]

can I get a chess analysis on this

[vocal rose]

well

[serene forge]

chicklets is good

[vocal rose]

you probably could make the chips work

[serene forge]

blunder

[eternal igloo]

This is deck playing towards Hack that hasn't gotten enough hanged men yet

[vocal rose]

?

chicot is good

[warm kindle]

How

[eternal igloo]

OK hell let's go for it.

[serene forge]

removes rng from the game

[twin lantern]

may i ask why blackboard and chicot are so high

[warm kindle]

Half the time it does nothing

[terse dock]

the 3 magical letters are calling to me like the fucking

[serene forge]

blackboard is the most free 3x mult of all time

[warm kindle]

Like rarely it will save ur run but its mostly just +10 dollars

[serene forge]

it's so easy to trigger

doesn't lose to any boss blind

unlike card sharp

[visual turtle]

Sometimes

I think about buying

[terse dock]

Forgetting about someone?

[warm kindle]

Just play pairs and ur good

[visual turtle]

Scary face in abandoned deck

[lunar zealot]

WHY do we lose runs
Because you Dont score enough To Beat the Blind
WHY is that
reason ONE : your Jokers suck ass
Reason 2: You dont Draw your Fuckign hand
Reason C: the Boss Blind fucks you

[visual turtle]

🥰

[lunar zealot]

chicot removes reason 3

[serene forge]

i've bought shoot the moon on abandoned without even thinking

then i realize i don't have any fucking mult

[terse dock]

Reason C*

[warm kindle]

Chichot also takes up a valuable joker slot

[terse dock]

Be consistently inconsistent

[warm kindle]

Plus reason c is the reason I die the least

[vocal rose]

because if you're playing pairs (usually) blackboard has probably the easiest condition to meet for such a high mult

[lunar zealot]

Biblical level greed by the way

[lunar zealot]

how many times have you seen violet vessel

[twin lantern]

fair enuf

[lunar zealot]

Not enough times i'm sure

vv puts the fear of god in you

[warm kindle]

Usually its cause I forget that Im against the psychic

[north schooner]

me: shop 1 foil sixth sense... ok chips, sure, maybe I can get the sticker

sixth sense: incantation

me: well, at least I can sell it for interest

sixth sense: I said, INCANTATION

[terse dock]

slot for what

[vocal rose]

the hardest part about this game is working around boss blinds with maybe mid jokers

[terse dock]

rental eternal showman

[vocal rose]

chicot eliminates that

[lunar zealot]

balatro players play like they're dudley dursley

[floral mural]

chicot is using a slot to let the most ridiculous strats work

[warm kindle]

If I die to violet vessel usually id die to an unlucky crimson just as easily

[vocal rose]

if you have chicot you can make shit/mid jokers work way better

[twin lantern]

i beat red deck gold stake yesterday with the help of blackboard and a nat negative seeing double

[warm kindle]

Idk ive just never had success with chicot

[serene forge]

chicot haters are the same people to complain when plant kills their triboulet build

[vocal rose]

its so good its genuinely boring

[warm kindle]

One thing is cause its rare af

[vocal rose]

oh god

[warm kindle]

So Ive prob had like 5 at most

[lunar zealot]

it's cause you play flushes

[floral mural]

im lowkey at the point where im holding a luchador for several anres because f it and it pays off

[vocal rose]

you think rarity ties into how good a joker is

if thats the case all legendaries should be bottom 5

[visual turtle]

Superposition 💔

[warm kindle]

Ive used it like 5 times at most

[serene forge]

chicot is good for flushes because flushes are bad and lots of things say fuck flushes

[warm kindle]

So I havent really got to see how good it is

[twin lantern]

:(

[floral mural]

like 4 joker slots and an insurance luchador does work . and chicot is better luchador

[warm kindle]

I dont

[serene forge]

I hate Baron

[warm kindle]

Unless I have to

[visual turtle]

YAY EVEN STEVEN

[vocal rose]

so you're making judgements about something when you've barely touched it 😭

[pale wolf]

walkie talkie is probably in my top 10 10 jokers

[vocal rose]

objective ones too

[warm kindle]

I did play flushes on one of my most recent runs cause I somehow turned my deck into checkered deck

[twin lantern]

y is that

[warm kindle]

My bad

[terse dock]

Fib is my #1

[vocal rose]

its okay

[pale wolf]

there aren't many

[lunar zealot]

you can literally win with 1 joker slot

you can win with 0 joker slots actually

[visual turtle]

Was it the spades & hearts or clubs & diamonds

[warm kindle]

Well duh

[pale wolf]

how

[vocal rose]

I think im 30 jokers away from my second c++ already

[floral mural]

holding a luchador has become something i do a lot when i get the chance

[visual turtle]

Hooray

[warm kindle]

Spades and hearts

[vocal rose]

I thought this would've been way slower

[lunar zealot]

peep my stats gang

[warm kindle]

And 1 lone club

[terse dock]

It's actually my #1 #2 #3 #5 #8 #13 #21 #34 #55 #89

[twin lantern]

#67

[lunar zealot]

GET OUT

[terse dock]

yes ma'am

[warm kindle]

My stats are fucked cause of mods, but im on a new profile now (only cause my stickers got bugged)

[floral mural]

love photo doing social distancing from chad in your stats

[warm kindle]

I legit cannot get stickers on blueprint on my first profile 😭

And like 10 other jokers

[visual turtle]

Mine

[lunar zealot]

she knows her place

[warm kindle]

Odd todd goated

[patent shoal]

this run was sketchy but I just got over the line to win it - full house with a barely altered deck

[vocal rose]

oh im already 27 stickers away from my second c++

tf

[warm kindle]

Vampire mime goes crazy

[formal abyss]

HUH???

[warm kindle]

I MEAN MASK

[vocal rose]

I started one week ago

[warm kindle]

Crazy

[visual turtle]

?

[warm kindle]

How many hours do u have 😭

In balatro

[visual turtle]

oh

eternal red card

[warm kindle]

Ok thats cap

[visual turtle]

well I've got

nothing else

[warm kindle]

Cause I have like 250 hours

[visual turtle]

to do

[vocal rose]

it is sorta cap

since I got my 1st c++ on mobile

[warm kindle]

Unless u just play on the same deck over and over

[vocal rose]

which took about a month or two

[patent shoal]

I'm 88/150 gold stickers so far

[vocal rose]

but I wasnt religiously playing it

[patent shoal]

presumably ill be playing balatro for the rest of eternity

it'll happen eventually

[vocal rose]

this past week I've been bored and sunk like 20 hours into getting the second C++

[vestal fern]

"you are not the guy" -Hanging Chad to Triboulet in Balatro: The Movie

[visual turtle]

oh and eternal burnt joker. That sounds neat

[vocal rose]

but this is also a stupid argument too

[patent shoal]

what's yalls favorite deck for sticker farming? personally mine's gotta be ghost deck

[vocal rose]

since the level of skill isn't determined by time

[lunar zealot]

oooo shop this ante is looking good

should i reroll?

[vocal rose]

blue deck 100%

[lunar zealot]

or should i buy refresher

[patent shoal]

💤

[lunar zealot]

i think refresher is good here for my lucky cat

[warm kindle]

Yeah but like ive played for so long and I was only like halfway to c++ at best on my old profile

[patent shoal]

boring deck

[vocal rose]

maybe you arent improving in the best way

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[vocal rose]

maybe you undervalue good jokers and overvalue bad jokers to lead to a lower winrate

lots of things in the equation

[visual turtle]

Really trying not to say

i don't like red card

[vocal rose]

its not a tangible line that determines skill level

[visual turtle]

-# i mean i just did but

[vocal rose]

I dont either its boring

[twin lantern]

can u resend ur tierlist

[vocal rose]

same way I dont like chicot

sure

[serene forge]

you don't get good just by having c++

[warm kindle]

I think I just play too fast sometimes

[vocal rose]

notice how disliking a joker isnt the same as saying a joker is SHIT

[lunar zealot]

i fucking hate spare trousers because it's literally the perfect joker

[vocal rose]

this is probably the biggest reason

100% mine too

[visual turtle]

I think jokers are cool

Except superposition

[vocal rose]

I played way too fast for a game that has zero time constraints

[vocal rose]

I should prob move splash to C tier