🎨・fan-art

[vale bronze]

"hey wanna hear something annoying?"
"no"
"yes you do"

[graceful lava]

So jokers in general can appear less often

But they will never be common

That's a cool idea

[brisk rune]

... no

that's what I tried to say with the gray text 😩

[graceful lava]

Oh oops

[brisk rune]

the same amount of jokers appear as normal, just all uncommon or rare

[graceful lava]

So does the commoness of uncommons change then or no

[brisk rune]

they naturally appear more commonly since they basically take the place of commons in the rarity hierarchy

[graceful lava]

I see, okay okay

[brisk rune]

and rare takes the place of uncommon

[graceful lava]

So commons can still appear via stuff like Riff Raff and Judgments then

What about buffoon packs

[brisk rune]

yeah since they're not from the shop

[brisk rune]

packs, not shop

[graceful lava]

Gotcha

Sounds good then

[brisk rune]

thanks :3

[graceful lava]

Just curious why did you pick this ability for a clover field

[wraith sparrow]

4 leaf clover?

[brisk rune]

four-leaves clovers is basically the luck symbol

[vale bronze]

What about a Joker like:

Increases the rarity of all Jokers by 1. Legendaries wrap around to common

[graceful lava]

I see that makes sense then

[odd flame]

Jokers! The rest looking one is scholar, and the egg is bad!

[brisk rune]

four-leaves clover field just sounded too long

[odd flame]

I can't really draw faces, so I'm trying to make simpler designs, I want to draw around 70 of them!

[graceful lava]

That's fair lol

[odd flame]

They aren't that great, but they're for function, not looking good ( I can't draw <3)

[graceful lava]

Even though these don't look very good, they have a certain charm to them

[gloomy carbon]

idea for Gelatin?
X2 Mult on all hands except the first

[odd flame]

Any tips for like, yk, drawing?

[odd flame]

Jelly :>

[brisk rune]

tutorials, lots of them xd

the most general drawing advice is really just to train a lot, there isn't some sort of magic trick when it comes to just drawing in general

[gloomy carbon]

the main build the ability works well in is a build where you don't wanna win immediately

[odd flame]

👍

[flat moat]

guys i wanna make a balatro mod but its ai jokers

who wanna code it since im bad

[gloomy carbon]

not me! that's not a cause i'm willing to support

[flat moat]

DM me if you're actually insane enough to do it

[odd flame]

What do you mean ai jokers?

[flat moat]

im telling chatgpt to generate balatro jokers

XD

this is the first one

[brisk rune]

oh also, this also works as a generality, deconstructing what you wanna draw as general shapes first, then drawing the details, works wonder.

For example, on my Clover Field card, all the assets started as single-colored blobs, which I detailed and shaded later on

[gloomy carbon]

isn't that... already a thing? The Duo?

just, better?

[flat moat]

ask chatgpt not me

[gloomy carbon]

you prompted it, you ask it

[flat moat]

this is my prompt

i gave it full creativity

[gloomy carbon]

aha. "creativity". like AI can do that

[flat moat]

true

but

it could do anything

didnt give it a suggestion so yeah

its ai's fault not mine

[icy geyser]

actually AI Generated Jokers 🤢

[graceful lava]

Thats kind of a cool ability, sort of useless having the first one but whatever

[gloomy carbon]

it can even tell me to make a glue pizza :)

[flat moat]

fr

[odd flame]

Thanks! I'm drawing each piece of each joker off the page, and hoping I can put them together on the page! Here's my sketch papers

[graceful lava]

Holy shit brainstorm irl

[odd flame]

Don't mind the demon face <3

[odd flame]

Your right, that is me for reals <3

[flat moat]

💀

🙏🏼

[brisk rune]

real nice

never stop gambling drawing

[flat moat]

yo how many pixels wide and how many tall is the card

wanna make some art

[gloomy carbon]

71x95

[odd flame]

Agreed

[gloomy carbon]

though the art itself has a margin of 1 pixel, so it's more like 69x93px

[teal island]

Histrio

[odd flame]

I wonder what the resolution of a piece of paper is

Like, atoms wide by atoms tall

[graceful lava]

Woah that's cool, what's it a reference to?

[hybrid minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/normal-my-beloved-normal-difficulty-geometry-dash-normal-face-gif-6506725655302710412

[flat moat]

where do you make ur art

[gloomy carbon]

i use GIMP

[flat moat]

FIRE IN DA HOLE 🔥

[flat moat]

lemme look dat up

[gloomy carbon]

it's free and open source ^^

[shadow pivot]

ASESPRITE

[odd flame]

Your right, it's definitely not the most... Pleasant egg

[teal island]

Old roman performer, the name Histrio is sometimes used interchangeably with jester in niche contexts

[odd flame]

I might try to fix it

[flat moat]

i see it but how does it work???

[graceful lava]

Interesting

[gloomy carbon]

there are some great tutorials online :D

[flat moat]

what does gnu image maniplulation program mean lol

[gloomy carbon]

it can be a bit counter-intuitive at first, but it's similar to photoshop

[hybrid minnow]

No it’s perfect

[graceful lava]

I appreciate the fact that you focus so hard on making sure the jester theme is prominent Nevernamed

[gloomy carbon]

GNU is a software licence, short for GNU's Not Unix

[graceful lava]

Very few people are good at grasping that in terms of creating custom jokers

[gloomy carbon]

which basically means it's open source

[teal island]

I'm a great lover of jesters

Big clown fan

[graceful lava]

You are the entire circus

[teal island]

I'm currently reading a book on the history of court jesters for inspiration

[gloomy carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/goodbye-nah-no-thanks-ace-attorney-miles-edgeworth-gif-26082537

[odd flame]

Oh God what have I done<3

[flat moat]

...

[teal island]

loric

[odd flame]

How do I fix this

[flat moat]

last thing about this, can i copy+paste the JOKER text on both sides somehow or do i have to eyeball it

[graceful lava]

LOL bro is definitely a ditto

[gloomy carbon]

you can use a template, hold on a mo while i make one

[flat moat]

yay

im using pixilart.com

rn

[gloomy carbon]

ah

[odd flame]

Better!!!!!

[brisk rune]

bro's malicious

[gloomy carbon]

@flat moat here's a sheet with 80 blank Jokers

[odd flame]

I'ma just call it bad egg

[gloomy carbon]

(this is the 1X file, to create the 2X file you need to upscale your art to 2X its resolution)

[flat moat]

idk how to do that 💀

can u make a templat of just 1 joker

so i can just use it

without all the extra stuff

[gloomy carbon]

ah i've closed GIMP, but okay

[shadow pivot]

here isone with layers for asesprite if you cant get the hang of gimp (happened to me)

[odd flame]

He looks high....

[flat moat]

i gotta BUY it????

[brisk rune]

oh fuck that just gave me the greatest idea for a joker

[odd flame]

Uh oh!!!

The true green joker

[flat moat]

oh no oh no oh no oh no oh no oh no

[brisk rune]

LMFAO

[gloomy carbon]

SDNFGJKNDFGJN WHY DOES THIS LOOK LIKE THE TALKING STEAK MOBILE GAME

[odd flame]

NO WAY my SORRY exCUSE FOR AN EGG got REAL ART

[brisk rune]

Eg (common): Cost 20, value is 20, value goes down by 3 after every round

[odd flame]

Thanks my guy, real appreciation

That's insane<3

[vale bronze]

Loregg

[vale bronze]

Also how tf did this take less than 10 minutes

[odd flame]

That amazing

I will cherish this forever

[uncut stratus]

10/10

[shadow pivot]

NEVERNAMED

[tiny jacinth]

Hey what existing joker should I draw

[shadow pivot]

u can use libresprite if you dont wanna buy it, did that for a few years

[teal island]

its just a quick edit of egg

btw you inspired me to reference something fun

"egg"

"Hey it's "egg""

+9 chips

[shadow pivot]

what no wayits

[vale bronze]

OMG wait

Lmao

Cookie clicker reference love that

Nevernamed you should do the temple spirits as jokers

[hushed moss]

too op, +9 chips, for free? you dont even have to do anything? busted imo

[flat moat]

so how do i draw on all layers at once

or move the top down

[hushed moss]

also based reference

[odd flame]

Forgot you were here lol, egg is amazing

[hushed moss]

ooooh wait i should resprite aura to be fthof

[flat moat]

fire art

[odd flame]

Joker?

[shadow pivot]

yo mate, i love yo style, cause i yused to draw like that yo

i hate myself yo

no but fr i feel like i used to draw exactly the same, so dont give up

[odd flame]

I'll get there eventually<3

[shadow pivot]

right click on one layer, flatten

[gloomy carbon]

thinking of ability ideas for Ruby, and once she has one, i can release a new version of my BFDI modpack :D

(well, maybe after i fix her art a bit)

better?

i'm not really convinced by this solution

[shadow pivot]

yeah i think its the best you can do imo

[gloomy carbon]

moving the hand a little seems to have worked?

[shadow pivot]

well its still pretty good

[shadow pivot]

ohh i like it

yeah this one is better actually

[gloomy carbon]

hmm actually, from a distance, she still looks like she's missing a tooth

aha, perfect. :D

[shadow pivot]

i see it, maybe use the shading again.

[shadow pivot]

that works mighty fine

[gloomy carbon]

right, abilities :D

this needs to be Mult scaling, as only one of the other BFDIAers do that

or, +Mult of some kind

i'd love to reference Ruby's sisters in some way :D

[shadow pivot]

they are red like mult too

[gloomy carbon]

welllllllll Fries is planet-relateddddd soooooooo

[shadow pivot]

ik, but still

[mint raft]

What do those do?

[gloomy carbon]

ah, they're not Jokers

https://battlefordreamisland.fandom.com/wiki/Ruby's_sisters

[mint raft]

35 colors? Sounds prismatic related to me

[gloomy carbon]

oooooh Diamonds would be good too

aha, i spy a synergy i can have :D

Each played Diamond has a 1 in 3 chance of becoming Glass when scored

synergising with Eraser:
Gains X0.25 Mult for each destroyed Diamond (Currently X1 Mult)

and also Blocky:
All played 2s-5s become Glass cards when scored, destroys all played and scored Glass cards

[rain salmon]

What's the server policy on medium/mild blood? Cuz I was just about to show some card designs I made, but I wasn't sure if it was safe to send. Its not gorey tho, just red pixels sorta splattered. Better safe than sorry

[odd kindle]

spoiler em and put a warning 👍

[gloomy carbon]

i'd spoiler and give a tw, but ya you can post it :D

[shadow pivot]

just put a spoiler some people are sensitive

[rain salmon]

alrighty, will do

[odd kindle]

I wouldn’t say that, but yea a warning would be good

[gloomy carbon]

(like me! i'm a bit squeamish)

[shadow pivot]

dont beat yself up, we all have the right to be sensitive to gorey stuff (im desensitized btw)

[gloomy carbon]

(nahhh i'm not beating myself up)

[shadow pivot]

good

[rain salmon]

(TW: Blood)

So I made 2 Lethal Company face cards so far, the barber (my fav monster) and a semi-inside joke one featuring a plushie of the bracken (from a mod) (2nd photo used as reference), the "joke" is that I found this guy and adopted him as my son.

But anyways, I was just wondering if I should do anything about the colors of the ball and how it's not fully symmetrical, as well as the basic symmetry or lack of shading on the barber. I'm not fully satisfied with it, I feel like I could improve it

sorry for the lots of text

[teal island]

Sot

[odd flame]

Looks like deoxys <3

4 more jokers!

[shadow pivot]

that means stupid in french

[shadow pivot]

wait, where did you gt these cards? are they apostrophe cards from amazon?

[odd flame]

?

Like the blank ones?

[shadow pivot]

yeah

[odd flame]

Yes!

[teal island]

Y'know Noober, it's almost like I picked the term meaning foolish

[odd flame]

Yes they are!!!

[shadow pivot]

yipeee

[odd flame]

Got 180 of them for 10 dollars

[shadow pivot]

i actually found somebody that uses the same ones as me

[shadow pivot]

yeah, that couldve been smart

[odd flame]

I'ma do the four stones now

[shadow pivot]

for context; ive made a few card games, roguelites, deckbuilders... they mostly are pretty bad with some ones that im actually proud of.

guess why i like balatro

[odd flame]

Makes sense

I wish I had these for making inscryption a while back lol

[shadow pivot]

yeah, i was inspired by its style for a while

[brisk rune]

if you know the reference, I like you

[gloomy carbon]

is that the TF2 Soldier meme :>

[shadow pivot]

sad, i dont

[brisk rune]

I like you

[odd flame]

Hehehe

It works, I like it

The real green joker

[brisk rune]

yeah that's what I meant from it giving me an idea

[teal island]

Reference to weed

[brisk rune]

it's more than just that

[shadow pivot]

no way

[teal island]

Reference to crack

no way fentanyl reference

[shadow pivot]

thats just my lifee

[brisk rune]

😭

[forest nimbus]

reference to @hoary light

reference to mathematics and other hard stuff like algebraic topology

[hoary light]

?????

well, fair

[drowsy bough]

this is cool af

[shadow pivot]

ikr

[brisk rune]

boss

[low steeple]

What if you just have too good of a build

[brisk rune]

not this boss' problem

gonna have to calculate with weaker hands

[verbal lance]

That just sounds cancerous bro

[brisk rune]

how?

[verbal lance]

8/10 times you will have a good build and will score over the limit

150% sounds like a better idea

[brisk rune]

that's the point, forcing the player to manually nerf themselves and think outside of their current OP build

[low steeple]

It's not really a fun concept cuz usually blinds do something to make it harder for you to score high enough, this flat out mocks you for trying to play well

[verbal lance]

Nerfing yourself in a rougelike bro

Smh

[brisk rune]

I will NOT hear from someone who can't spell roguelike properly

okno

[low steeple]

Scoring above should have a downside, not reset you back

[verbal lance]

It's not a bad idea but its exactly the opposite of what the game encourages

number go up

Maybe like the ox and resets money to zero

[distant surge]

I like this one ngl

[low steeple]

It's the reason why the stake rework happened, game mechanics are supposed to create new ways to play, not remove them

You can also just ignore that and do whatever u want

[verbal lance]

Thats also true

[brisk rune]

honestly not sure what you mean here, don't every bosses limit how you play?

[verbal lance]

This sounds alot less annoying

[verbal lance]

They don't just flat out reset your progress

[low steeple]

They do, but the key word is limit, not complete nullification

Crimson only gets rid of a single joker, the suit blinds only debuffs one suit at a time, plant only debuffs face cards, tooth only matters if your hands have high card counts

These all force you to play differently but never less optimally

You are always encouraged to give your best

[spring coral]

https://tenor.com/view/lalo-salamanca-sad-happy-to-sad-better-call-saul-gif-138039709594799496

[brisk rune]

okay I see the point here

[spring coral]

anyone know how to check how long you played the game 4?

[brisk rune]

basically no excess mechanic

[low steeple]

Not exactly, you can still try using it, but it shouldn't be as oppressive as a full reset
Maybe econ consequences or level consequences or what have you
It just needs to be something the player COULD power through

[hearty folio]

the way i see bosses is that they shouldn't end a build immediately

[brisk rune]

amusingly enough, econ and level-related bosses are the one I find the most boring to play with

so eh

[low steeple]

You could Perma debuff the cards in the winning hand if it overshoots

[brisk rune]

mmh

wait wait wait I just got an idea

[hearty folio]

imo x1/3 to both chips and mult if hand would go over

[brisk rune]

each 1% overshoot increases the required chips of every future blinds by 1%

what about this?

[low steeple]

Could be neat but such an idea probably requires a bit of play testing and experimentation to properly flesh out

[brisk rune]

true

but eh, the wonders of fanmade stuff, not needing perfect balance 👍

oh also I made this one in the meanwhile

and updated desc (had to crunch some words because it'd be too long otherwise)

[hearty folio]

i don't like referring to the final score and chips as both chips

Every 1% over the
required score increases
all future blinds by 1%

probably stacks better

[brisk rune]

probably yeah

[hearty folio]

conciseness ❤️

[sly saffron]

i redid the art for my joker

with the image from the original meme

i tried my best with the text

[hearty folio]

common and implied $2-$3 buy value is insane

[sly saffron]

insane is literally the whole idea

[hearty folio]

make it $0

[sly saffron]

say less

[hearty folio]

there are two genders

comically balanced

and comically unbalanced

[surreal grove]

real

[sly saffron]

oh and i need to make it blueprint compatable

[surreal grove]

real

[shadow pivot]

WIP Shard of Greed

i am so tired rn

i am diing while tyyyping rn, so gn

[torpid onyx]

turned my friends cat into a joker

his name is Larry and he turns all cards to diamonds

[shadow pivot]

anny fedback?

[distant surge]

damm

[sharp patrol]

Mistborn Theme Balatro Joker pt.2

thought youd enjoy this one

[sharp patrol]

the "4 in 16" is a thematic connection, I know it is the same as 1 in 4

[granite fable]

It’s Vin!

Love her

[distant surge]

The Purple mirror
this blind has the same requirements of your best hand until this point in the run

[rotund lynx]

How are you making those so fast?! Every time i look here theres like 4 new jokers from you!

[teal island]

I just work fast

not sure what to say

[rotund lynx]

Still thats some dedication!

[teal island]

I have a fair bit of experience in pixelart which helps a lot

[brisk rune]

... huh?

[granite fable]

…

[vale bronze]

you should make a timelapse

[distant surge]

for example:If the your best hand until now has gained you 1 millon chips then that blind requirements will be 1 million chips

[steel bronze]

got any suggestion?

[brisk rune]

ah alright

[distant surge]

it could also sometimes be worth the same amount as the last big bling before it

[neon jackal]

i love this background

[wicked token]

The start of my Jonkler collection

[distant surge]

jonkler c:

[brisk rune]

one last for tonight

[wicked token]

“hot x in your area” 😭

[drowsy bough]

Mistborn!! Art looks gorgeous!

[brisk rune]

:3

[sharp patrol]

thank you!

[sly saffron]

if you wanna try ithttps://github.com/UHadMeAtFood/Perkolating/tree/main#

[granite fable]

Now make a Perkolatorlator

[sly saffron]

no

that just seems

oh god

[brisk rune]

actually it's Every other are debuffed, not Debuff every other

just turned off my pc and I don't want to turn it on again just to fix this 😩

[blissful wadi]

Genius

XD

[brisk rune]

thanks lol

[surreal grove]

me with 4 Triboulets

[brisk rune]

sis with 4 Triboulets

[stiff tusk]

hello i'm back (yellow deck-green deck-zodiac deck-merry andy)

[golden oyster]

really nice patterns on the green and yellow

[humble ermine]

merry andy aint looking so merry anymore

insanely cool though

[small plover]

I love the Yoshi!

[visual widget]

Is it execution worthy to use black in a joker. Im trying to make a graffiti joker, and I want to make the outline black, but I know black technically isnt suspposed to be used

[sturdy kiln]

if youre trying to be vanilla esque then dont

[visual widget]

might just make the outline a darker variant of the color i use

I was gonna use a bright pink for the graffiti to make it pop out

I need opinions, let me give a picture real quick

[golden oyster]

slime card redone

wasnt happy with how it looked

[sturdy kiln]

what the hue shift

peak

[golden oyster]

you know it ;)

[graceful lava]

Soap

[visual widget]

Should i attempt one of these masks, or do a bandana? Or any other options? I figured id give it a mask or something since graffiti artists 'want to hide their identity'

[golden oyster]

oh

[graceful lava]

Lmao nah I'm kinda it looks good

[golden oyster]

this could be cool

love the look of that kind of mask

[golden oyster]

i was legitimaly thinking it looked so tasty

youve ruined it for me you monster

[visual widget]

I do as well! its just my artistic skills holding me back 😔

[graceful lava]

I'm sorry lmao

[golden oyster]

i have to eat soap now

to satisfy the urge

[golden oyster]

tbh the mask is very square kinda

those things to the side look just like turned rectangles

honestly i think you could make it

[visual widget]

youd be surprised

[surreal grove]

di-di-di-digimon

[rocky spoke]

Lol fr

[surreal grove]

good for 1 handing stuff, and nothing else

[ashen harness]

DEALS SO HOT I'LL [[%$#!]] MYSELF‼️

[gloomy carbon]

NOW'S YOUR CHANCE TO BE A [[BIG SHOT]]

[orchid skiff]

WITH YOUR SOUL IVE GOT, IM NEO YOURE NOT

[severe radish]

is this not blue

[visual widget]

its lowkey kinda tragic

[sturdy kiln]

the mixels return

[visual widget]

Im using 1px instead of swapping between 1px and 2px. I just made some of them thicker

I think i'll do a bandana

[surreal grove]

based on a real Jester

[sturdy kiln]

scale down the joker 50% next time before you start drawing

youre drawing on a higher resolution than the rest of the game

[sturdy kiln]

when does it go up

[surreal grove]

on retriggers

[visual widget]

i keep forgetting to use the 71 by 95. I keep puttting in the 142 by 190

[sturdy kiln]

i dont think thats a legendary

[surreal grove]

ah

I shall fix it then

[orchid skiff]

if im reading.tjis right

[sturdy kiln]

rare at best probably

[orchid skiff]

this would need 3 retriggers to be better than trib

[sturdy kiln]

trib is a bad comparing point because trib is mid

compared to canio or yorick its horrible

[orchid skiff]

this is the closest thing to compare it to 😭

[sturdy kiln]

not really

[surreal grove]

the first trigger is x2, so

[sturdy kiln]

assuming youre good at the game and get yorick/canio to about 20
you would need 21 retriggers to be better

[orchid skiff]

so uhh

x2, x3, x4?

[sturdy kiln]

and then it resets and you need another 21 retriggers

[surreal grove]

yee

[orchid skiff]

2 retriggers and thats a better triboulet

[surreal grove]

yee

[orchid skiff]

3 or more and this can go hard

[surreal grove]

better than trib, if you can get retriggers

[visual widget]

Okie, I scaled the joker down

[surreal grove]

might move it down to + x0.75

[sturdy kiln]

what does it look like

[sturdy kiln]

?

its really bad

[surreal grove]

with one retigger it's better than Trib

[sturdy kiln]

???

dont mean to be mean but this is worded so confusingly lmao

[surreal grove]

Queens one first trigger are x2, +x1 each consecutive trigger

[sturdy kiln]

what do you mean consecutive trigger

[surreal grove]

retriggers

[sturdy kiln]

oh

yeah thats worded so confusingly

"Queens give +(x1) Mult for every time they are retriggered (resets each scored Queen)"

[sturdy kiln]

i dont think you need new

[surreal grove]

if anyone wants to steal this effect, go ahead

beats trib on the 3rd trigger

2 vs 1.5
4 vs 3.75
8 vs 13.125

[sturdy kiln]

?

is it not 1.5, 2.5, 3.5 etc

[surreal grove]

1.5
1.5 x 2.5
1.5 x 2.5 x 3.5

[sturdy kiln]

ohh thats how youre doing it

[surreal grove]

yee

[sturdy kiln]

Intellectual (Common): Gains x1 Mult if hand contains an Ace, loses x2 Mult if it does not

[surreal grove]

red seal queens with sock n' buskin and Jane Foole beats red seal kings with sock n' buskin with Triboulet

now we just need a card that makes queens also count as kings for baron

[sturdy kiln]

new naneinf strat

[sturdy kiln]

infinite legendary generator with perkeo + showman

[shy yacht]

Synergy is fun!

Also if a strat requires perkeo it already relies on insane luck anyway-

[sturdy kiln]

also its kinda just extremely fucking overpowered

[shy yacht]

Not really?

[sturdy kiln]

yes lmao

[distant surge]

Im color blind so i cant really tell qwq

[shy yacht]

Saying "lmao" doesn't make it true

[severe radish]

no worries

[surreal grove]

you still have to have room for it

[severe radish]

i have no idea how yall say this isnt op

like

tbf

its op with perkepo

but its so op with perkeo its kind of wack

[shy yacht]

When something broken requires a legendary joker that you're not even guaranteed to get, PLUS one for 150+ jokers, more with mods, just to get assorted legendary jokers, it feels like a niche enough scenario

[distant surge]

I likr thid ngl

[severe radish]

like that alone imo makes it a bit too op for vanilla balancing

[sly saffron]

youd hate my mod

[shy yacht]

not to mention legendary jokers rarely synergize

[distant surge]

Like this*

[severe radish]

that doesnt mean that it should be broken asf with a legendary imo

[shy yacht]

?

sorry, is this your first rouguelike?

[severe radish]

this basically makes perkeo = all 5 legendaries + modded legendaries

[severe radish]

no

[shy yacht]

Surprising, I'd think you'd be all for niche powerful builds

[sly saffron]

honestly that sounds funny if you can pull it off

im all for shenaigans

[severe radish]

it is funny

im not even going after the idea of the card

[shy yacht]

Like so many balatro fans think something is broken if the most unlikely series of events would make it naninf

and then they don't complain about existing naninfs

[severe radish]

im saying its absolutely super ultra busted with perkeo

[sly saffron]

its better then my soulution: break everything

[severe radish]

so if there was a way to prevent such a thing

it would probably not be a bad idea

[gaunt osprey]

:3 - This joker gains X0.3 mult for every 3 face cards played.

[severe radish]

if u want to preserve vanilla ante 8 balancing

[shy yacht]

I'm not gonna get upset that a legendary joker that's hard to get anyway makes something broken

[severe radish]

dont get upset

[shy yacht]

and like

[severe radish]

im just saying that really fucks with vanilla balancing

[shy yacht]

I'm still gonna argue it's not

[sly saffron]

yeah

[shy yacht]

like what are you trying to get at that point if you already have perkeo

[severe radish]

perkeo is not an instant win

[shy yacht]

and?

[severe radish]

this card makes it one

[shy yacht]

What other legendary joker would make this "broken"

like name a specific one

[sly saffron]

rn perkeo plus observatory makes perkeo broken

[severe radish]

if u can reliably generate legendaries you have a free win

do u disagree with that

[shy yacht]

yes

[severe radish]

we will never agree then

[shy yacht]

name a specific legendary combo that's a free win

[sly saffron]

daring of you to assume its relieable

[shy yacht]

if it's broken that shouldn't be hard

[severe radish]

wait hold on

can u even get this in consumable slots

[surreal grove]

I lost my best ever run to the plant so

[severe radish]

💀

[shy yacht]

if you get a voucher that lets you, yeah

it's not default

[severe radish]

ok ykw

if its gated behind like a voucher and stuff

[surreal grove]

I had 2 tribs

[severe radish]

is this a voucher u have?

[shy yacht]

yep

[severe radish]

ok still

[shy yacht]

it lets the cards appear in the shops

[severe radish]

i think its fair enough

[sly saffron]

its going to be a gamble weather or not you can get the perko

[shy yacht]

so, are you going to explain why having a legendary generator is broken yet

[sly saffron]

let alone the other card

[shy yacht]

like you must have a synergy in mind

[severe radish]

you can easily find a legendary that works for your build

trib doesnt always work

i mean fuck just pull for yorick

that mf works on any build essentially unless ur burgalur'd up

[shy yacht]

sure, but yorick is far from broken

[severe radish]

if ur talking vanilla balancing

[visual widget]

Okay guys. how tragic is it

[shy yacht]

plus like

[severe radish]

legendaries are rare for a reason

[shy yacht]

how many rounds would that take

[severe radish]

theres options for copying perkeo too

so

[shy yacht]

assuming you pick up the card, that's 5 rounds you have to wait to be able to generate a legendary, assuming you're not burning the original card

[shy yacht]

which means you have fewer build enements the legendaries could synergize with, because brainstorm and/or blueprint are already there

[severe radish]

how would those NOT synergize

[shy yacht]

meaning you only have one or two other joker slots to make yorick and perkeo broken

[severe radish]

i mean i think after thinking about it more

i agree

[shy yacht]

I'm not saying blueprint and brainstorm aren't extremely powerful, but what are you copying in this build after you get the yorick

[severe radish]

like i said that way up here

[severe radish]

yorick

lol

[shy yacht]

if it's just copying yorick, that's only going to scale so far

[visual widget]

heres a bigger photo. i need tips. The background im not done with yet, but how can I make the bandana look better

[severe radish]

you can still easily win ante 8 if u get it setup

as i said

[shy yacht]

and by then you're probably already deep into naninf

[severe radish]

i disagree

[shy yacht]

okay, so let me get this straight

[severe radish]

again as i said, with it being gated behind the voucher

its fine

I dont think we are going to agree on whether having it is broken

but since the difficulty of getting it is there its okay

[shy yacht]

your grand master plan:

• get a soul card that gives perkeo specifically
• get a specific voucher
• get the consumable
• churn perkeo, which either means waiting 5 rounds per roll, OR acquiring two specific rare cards
• get yorick eventually

and you think this is not only possible to achieve in 8 antes, but likely?

[severe radish]

i think if you get the first two its easy

and like i said i think it being gated behind soul AND a voucher

makes it okay

in that case

[shy yacht]

but wheel of fortune never triggers, right

[severe radish]

again i dont think we are going to come to an agreement on how likely those last 3 things are

without a giant debate

[magic sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/balatro-wheel-of-fortune-balatro-wheel-of-fortune-balatro-wheel-empty-wallet-gif-9087530590380236719

[severe radish]

which im not up for

[shy yacht]

sure, and I don't have the energy to

[burnt sable]

so tragic you didnt even export at a higher size

[severe radish]

well we are in agreement about that

all this aside

[shy yacht]

I think I'll leave it at "this is such a rare occurance that, fuck it, if they get it, let them have it, it sounds fun as balls and that's what roguelikes are for"

[severe radish]

i like the idea of the card itself a lot

[shy yacht]

As long as nobody cries "cryptid" I'll sleep easy

(which you're obviously not claiming)

[severe radish]

yea

[shy yacht]

But yeah, it's a fun card, born out of my frustratingly bad luck at finding legendaries

[severe radish]

i think where i was coming from is more the notion of just getting one thing instantly giving you a win even if its rare, but esp with all the factors I think its def a set up thing so its fine, similar to any other roguelike where u can get immensely powerful

[shy yacht]

yeah, exactly

it requires setup and some real good luck

so if you get big yields from it at that point, it's fairly well-earned

[severe radish]

yessir

off to perkeolate some legendaries

[shy yacht]

off to work at the trapeze factory

[severe radish]

i like this one a lot

also because with perkeo it would go crazy

[shy yacht]

stupid hand sizes go brrrrr

there's honestly not a lot of ways in the game to mess with hand size outside of some reliable vouchers and some okay jokers, so

why not :3

[severe radish]

for sure

[shy yacht]

I yearn for the day someone pings me and shows perkeo/endless scarf

[severe radish]

tbh i think theres a case to be made that handsize is more op than a legendary but i dont wanna open up that can of worms

and its gated behind perkeo voucher again

so its fine

perkoscarf

ig that would be the name of the strat

[shy yacht]

anyway I'm glad you enjoy the concepts at least, I'm eager to get them programmed once all the art's complete

[severe radish]

im excited to try them

[shy yacht]

We’ll see how long it takes to program I’m a newbie to lua and Balatro modding, but I’m not new to coding in general thankfully

[severe radish]

oh god

balatro modding is hell

coming from someone whos done modding work in terraria/minecraft

i dont get it 💀

i went through a lot of pain to get this sticker to work

this is the only thing in my mod and ive been working on it for 5 days

[sly saffron]

Doesn't help the documentation is so scattered

[severe radish]

mhmm

all it does btw is give 10 mult and move to the next card

[sly saffron]

That's cool

[visual widget]

Okay guys, how tragic is it now

[sly saffron]

I'm taking a minute before i add anything to my mod

[visual widget]

I dont know what to do about the bottom part, the collar or whatever it iss

[severe radish]

the whole mod is about stickers u can apply to playing cards, which all do different things and affect cards around them

like a slasher sticker that destroys an adjacent card

its based off the roles in a game called "untitled tag game"

[blissful wadi]

Just had 2 stupid joker art ideas

[gaunt osprey]

that

is a lot of colors that are darker than balatro black

[blissful wadi]

Middle finger
All hands played count as containing a straight and a flush for jokers

Stan Pines
You can play 6 cards in one hand, but lose the ability to play anything but an uber straight/uber flush (10x value compared to normal ig)

[granite fable]

I’m guessing Ford?

[drowsy bough]

got this functioning finally yippie!

[visual widget]

I know. Im kind of just practicing than focusing on following that rule

[severe radish]

it or the joker

i assume it

[drowsy bough]

what would "it" be?

[severe radish]

the card

playing card

whaterver ur joker means by it

[drowsy bough]

both? ig lol

[severe radish]

like

what gets .2x mult

[drowsy bough]

the unscored card

[severe radish]

thats what i thought

but wasnt sure

v cool

[drowsy bough]

ohhhh

mb i thought you were asking if i got "it" or the joker working

and was confused

[gaunt osprey]

average Jimbo subplot:

[vale bronze]

10/54 of @teal island 's legendaries given effects

[teal island]

impressive

[drowsy bough]

yes! HUGE credit to @tawny stratus for saying they wanted to make one referencing the meme, i feel bad for essentially stealing the idea but i was very inspired. If i put this somewere people can download i'll make sure to put credit somewhere visible

[sturdy kiln]

touchstone telephone

[tawny stratus]

lmao i love it thats awesome

hey low key can i add that into astropulvis i’ll credit you

[drowsy bough]

i mean yeah sure

[tawny stratus]

if not it’s totally fine

[drowsy bough]

idm as long as im good to still have it in mine

[tawny stratus]

but this is probably better than anything i could do 😭

[tawny stratus]

yeah it’s cool

here i’ll talk to you abt it later im trying to sleep

[tawny stratus]

how would you get this condition btw

wouldn’t at least one card score

oh debuffs

[drowsy bough]

its if theres exactly one unscored card as part of a hand

[tawny stratus]

ohhhh

so like if i played

5,5,5,5,K

the king would gain xmult

[drowsy bough]

yeah

[tawny stratus]

average king subplot

if you want just DM me the 71x95 image and the code and i’ll throw it in and credit you in both the code file and the metadata

or whatever res it is

[drowsy bough]

aight 👍

[visual widget]

Is it over for me

[burnt sable]

feel like the black outline is doing too much

[visual widget]

Any tips would be appreciated because I am not good at this

[visual widget]

But at least this time I exported it so you could actually see it 🙏

[burnt sable]

this is true

[shy yacht]

My biggest tip is a classic one

stay within the balatro color scheme

[burnt sable]

unless you’re just like that iykyk

[visual widget]

I’ll try that! I’m mostly just trying to get used to pixel art as a whole. I don’t regularly practice any form of art, and I JUST got into pixel art, so it’s tough

[odd flame]

Well, we played with the cards I made, turned out pretty good!! Hope to make more cards in the morning

[graceful lava]

This is how they should start teaching math

You know what else is good about paper cards? You can draw on and erase editions/seals/enhancements whenever you want

Much more convenient than printing out the pixel art cards

[tiny jacinth]

Yo chat what existing joker should I draw

[low steeple]

Chaos the Clown

[wicked token]

Hologram

[tiny jacinth]

Decisions decisions

[wintry thunder]

and wear out the paper lmao

[graceful lava]

You can just mark it with a letter or something on the corner if you have to

Doesn't have to be the entire design

As for the seals maybe you could use paperclips or something

[shadow pivot]

MMMIIIXXEELLLSS NOOOO

reposting this, do yall have some feedback?

[wicked token]

If i were to be remaking joker stencil should i do an alternating black and white checkered pattern in the middle or just make it all black to represent that its a cut out?

[neon scarab]

background is too dark + border is too saturated

actually everything is too saturated. tone it down a little

[gaunt osprey]

the background seems a lil dark

[hushed moss]

dividing score is the same as xmult

[shadow pivot]

will try

[hushed moss]

text is too hard to see

make the purple lighter i think

[paper hound]

Did my message send then disappear?

[shadow pivot]

is this any better

wait idea

nade on phone rn, but would something like this be somewhat better?

[wicked token]

Can someone pls make a 5x5 club design i can copy??? ♣️

[shadow pivot]

cant rn, on phone, but you should be able to find game assets on spriters resource

[steel bronze]

that darn smile

[low steeple]

That gruesome image...

[steel bronze]

he is just a little guy

[wicked token]

“draw jimbo from memory”
my memory:

[brisk rune]

it's him

it's jimbo balatro

[teal island]

Genuinely love this form of caricature

actually thats inspiring

Fat 'Ed

[brisk rune]

oh goodness gracious

[steel bronze]

blob fish

[teal island]

Stained Glass Joker

[hushed moss]

dont you dare insult my dear blobfish

[steel bronze]

i would never i know is under alot of pressure

[hushed moss]

lmao

[pulsar vigil]

Ah damn yours is so cool

[brisk rune]

fuck that was clever

[nocturne cosmos]

Jimbo on sundays

[brisk rune]

praying to rngesus

[steel bronze]

i try making a mister potatoe head joker but mf looks like a victim of the Bay Harbor Butcher there were no signs looking ass

[brisk rune]

it honestly looks pretty good, maybe you could add shading to the parts without it to make the card look less uncanny?

[steel bronze]

i going to put it in a little box so it looks like a toy more

[brisk rune]

alrighty then

[steel bronze]

what is he looking at

https://tenor.com/view/sigma-stare-patrick-bateman-saul-goodman3d-prikol-gif-25729443

[drowsy bough]

its giving club penguin cardjitsu custom penguin card stickers

[steel bronze]

hmmm

[drowsy bough]

i just realised how specific of a reference that is lmao

[fierce pasture]

[steel bronze]

zamn

[wicked token]

Bal tro

[steel bronze]

you guys heard about missprint? well ready for misspelled

[wicked token]

lol

My Jonkler collection so far.

Can u guess which jonklers are which?

[orchid skiff]

holy is hat shadow milk cookie

[fierce pasture]

toootally not

[brisk rune]

I hate this (this is a compliment)

[steel bronze]

i hate you too (thanks)

[fierce pasture]

Is it bad that i thought it was spelt right when i looked at it for a sec

[brisk rune]

nah, we all are used to reading the word that we now just fly over

[vale bronze]

Yeah well xmult is boring and I wanted to do something else

[steel bronze]

r and e do look similar in this font

[heavy flare]

Looks great 👍

[vast musk]

Square faceless stencil misprint greedy jimbo

[vast musk]

I had to read it like 5 times and suddenly the letters changed places the fuck

[vast musk]

Buff pellesini to be more inline with other legendaries i think

[glacial plinth]

(Common) +12 mult if hand is not ordered from high to low (Ex: A 10 K Q J)

[glacial plinth]

(rare) Played glass cards have a 1 in 4 chance to become polychrome

[glacial plinth]

(uncommon) +17 mult

[granite fable]

Imagine if it shared that probability with breaking

[surreal grove]

ship of theseus for the win

[glacial plinth]

I was considering fortifying polychrome glass cards so they only have a 1 in 6 or 8 chance of breaking if they were made polychrome but hey, no need to go overboard

[shy yacht]

I still need to get the extra credit mod, ship of theseus looks fun as hell

[steel bronze]

its not finish but you see the vision

[granite fable]

“Glass cards with no edition become polychrome instead of breaking”?

[vast musk]

Thats far better

[vast musk]

God i can hear the noises

[surreal grove]

this feels astronomically cursed

[thin bloom]

so glass cards just dont break ever

[granite fable]

Nah, it’s just an extra life

[thin bloom]

ohhh ok

yeah im stubdi

[granite fable]

And it doesn’t even count if it’s foil, holographic, or polychrome

Already, I mean

[graceful lava]

Oh my God this is beautifully disgusting

In other words, looks great

[vast musk]

More like blessed its the face of an angel

[wintry thunder]

i feel like misprint is horizontally wrongly placed

[worldly glen]

fan art

[shadow pivot]

new version

[odd flame]

That's exactly what I'm doing, 3 slots in the corner for rank, suit, and enhancement

Hehe

[graceful lava]

How do you plan on doing editions though

Or would your version just not even include editions

[gloomy carbon]

meet the Goiky Deck and Yoyle Deck :D

Yoyle Deck:
Start with a Negative Eternal Contestant Joker

Goiky Deck will be something related to Steel

idea for the Goiky Deck?
After defeating each Boss Blind, gain a Negative copy of The Chariot

[thin bloom]

these dont necessarily feel like decks

[gloomy carbon]

clarify?

[sturdy kiln]

this feels more like a challenge imo

[gloomy carbon]

?

isn't it like, a free Joker?

[sturdy kiln]

i mean as in it feels like itd be a challenge instead of a deck

starting with a joker is just more of a challenge mechanic

[gloomy carbon]

right but

it's negative

[sturdy kiln]

yeah

[low steeple]

Challenges do that too sometimes

[gloomy carbon]

and you can reroll to get the one you want :>

[sturdy kiln]

?

how

[gloomy carbon]

the R key

[sturdy kiln]

oh its random

[gloomy carbon]

oh i should clarify, a Contestant Joker is a type of Joker in my pack, there are multiple

ya

[low steeple]

Oh that makes a lot more sense

[gloomy carbon]

so one run might have a Yellow Face, and another might have an Eraser

[low steeple]

Ohhhhh a BFDI contestant

[gloomy carbon]

ya :D

[severe radish]

cryptid code deck moment

[gloomy carbon]

hold on, lemme post the sheets ^^

[severe radish]

idk if this is a cool idea

[sturdy kiln]

you dare use cryptid as a reference point

[severe radish]

but what if the yoyle deck depicted the yoyle needy

[severe radish]

yea

who gives a fuck just go off fr fr

[gloomy carbon]

ooh that might be cool?

might do that later

[sturdy kiln]

why is there so many of the rainbow hairballs

[gloomy carbon]

it's an animated Joker :>

[sturdy kiln]

dear god

[gloomy carbon]

or, is meant to be, SMODS animated Jokers don't seem to work

[severe radish]

I only know anything about BFDI because I watch carykh

I never really watched BFDI

at all

[gloomy carbon]

it's one of my special interests :>

[severe radish]

Its funny that I first saw his work with the scale of the universe

[sturdy kiln]

i dont know what bfdi is

[severe radish]

idek if any of you guys remember or know that

[severe radish]

it made object shows popular

[gloomy carbon]

i know of it ^^

[severe radish]

idk what they are called

i think object shows is the term

[sturdy kiln]

ohh

i used to make an object show idk how i dont know what bfdi is

[golden oyster]

Flow Card
im afraid i kinda fucked up this one ;u;

[severe radish]

https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:1400/1*kQv2-0bTuRUTTkIl6errog.gif

this is the scale of the universe

that carykh made

[sturdy kiln]

im taller

[severe radish]

https://tenor.com/view/what-am-i-reading-squinting-bro-what-black-guy-paper-gif-1931911120038739604

[steel bronze]

how can i do an animated joker i remenber there was a mod where there was a joker called animation and it was moving

[misty tiger]

can my jokers evolve to walk to the right as fast as possible?

[sturdy kiln]

make frames

[forest nimbus]

Aura

Although SMODS support for animated Jokers has a PR now

[golden oyster]

*evolve to vibrate its limbs so it moves to the left

[steel bronze]

thx

[spice bone]

Love this

[heady tartan]

LOL thats so good

futiger balatro

[heavy flare]

I be know what I’m gonnna do for ICE CREAM

My latest addiction is ants Canada
And thus I must put ants on the ice cream

[shadow pivot]

wip, guess what ill be doing for the next 5 days

forgot to put me in it fuck

[fierce pasture]

[golden oyster]

so pretty!

[surreal grove]

adorable

[shadow pivot]

sorry if you aren't in it, it was already hard to fit all of them in, but if i can ill add you. i think most of the channel is here

[surreal grove]

am I in it?

[wintry drift]

ummm what the heck where is me I'm a very important member of this channel....

[light sequoia]

what's the playing card dimensions

and how do i make em

[shadow pivot]

so we have nevernamed, mythie, prototype, ghost,wraith fan, nitrocket, fennex,starman, toma, nrio,snazfrin, zacbazer, big glowy thing, aiko, matheo000, clay, spoofy, therkle, gameshower, gelopsys, survivalaren, shadoMbulb, mirror, mac, 9ts, sarcpot, pangea, golden leaf,, grommydagrum, screamiepup, heart of crow, lord of the deep dawn. i think thats all

71x95

[shadow pivot]

spriters resource

[light sequoia]

like looking at this

do i need to draw the entire thing or just the shit that's relevant

[brisk rune]

wait there's me?

[shadow pivot]

yeahh

[brisk rune]

I assumed I wasn't here since I still have the lil' newbie leaf lmao

[shadow pivot]

yeah, but youve been really active, so i added you in!

[brisk rune]

well damm, thanks lol

[fierce pasture]

Hm? wdym?

[light sequoia]

oh no i wanna make a card reskin based on silly cats

aces will be uni

hearts will be panko

[fierce pasture]

WAA!! I love that!!!

[light sequoia]

clubs will be bigfootjinx

my cat will be diamonds

so now i need to figure out how to make it

[fierce pasture]

I use Aseprite to make my resprites!

[light sequoia]

oh no im not concerned about the drawings

im more concerned about the dimensions/logistics

[fierce pasture]

OH!! Can you give an example on what you mean?

[light sequoia]

like here you just drew the sprite while keeping the bg transparent

do i need to do this for playing cards or is it the same way you draw jokers

[graceful lava]

You know aces aren't a suit right

[light sequoia]

spades

oops

lmao

[graceful lava]

That's what I thought lol

[light sequoia]

but yeah

what's the process for making playing cards

is it basically the same as jokers?

[shadow pivot]

anyone missing? (be real)

[fierce pasture]

[shadow pivot]

be real

[gloomy carbon]

heheheeeeee there i ammmmm :3

v cool!!!

[shadow pivot]

oh yeah, forgot to say iprefercheddar

[fierce pasture]

OOHH!! Yeah I'd keep the bg transparent since if you were to not do that, if you'd get something like a lucky buff on your card, it'd have a bg with it

[shadow pivot]

(he's right next to ghost)

[light sequoia]

yeah thats what i thought

[gloomy carbon]

glad i'm so close to him :D he's awesome

[light sequoia]

same dimensions as jokers, 71x95

correct?

[gloomy carbon]

mhmhm!

[light sequoia]

time to cook

[golden oyster]

oh hey it me

i look so mischievious

[dense solstice]

is this cookie run

[shadow pivot]

yeah, i went kinda quickly and didnt spend a ton of time on the drawings sorry

[shadow pivot]

yes im pretty sure

[fierce pasture]

Maaaybe

[dense solstice]

I'm sorry i don't play cookie run anymore

[shadow pivot]

here is a booster template

do not look at the name of the attachement

[surreal grove]

bro

[fierce pasture]

[fierce pasture]

oh

[golden oyster]

i mean

is it true tho

[fierce pasture]

LOL???

[brisk rune]

🥴

[shadow pivot]

i made this like 2 weeks ago and forgot about it

but ill say yes

[golden oyster]

congrats man

[shadow pivot]

[shadow pivot]

wtf

[light sequoia]

his name is big b

(is 17x17px too big for card sprites?

[modern horizon]

probably not big enough

[fierce pasture]

not big enough sadly

hold on ^^

[light sequoia]

nvm it works

[fierce pasture]

OHHH

Nvm i thought you meant 17x17 for the whole card LOL

[light sequoia]

no lmao

for jacks/queens/kings/aces im gonna be using pngs of the actual cats

[shadow pivot]

yall

i have a real question

how do i get my friends into balatro

cause my gd friend (also best) says its poker but youre alone, and all the other say its just a card game

[lament fable]

You can’t at that point

[drowsy bough]

I just gave my friends my phone for like 10 mins, they ALL failed the first run then get a good build going in the second and proceed to buy the game lol

[radiant rock]

Balatro keychains🤑

[leaden atlas]

Oh my god adorable

"and this guy..." Yeah accurate

[sullen swift]

made my own version of a template, if you want it
#1224362333208444989 message

shoot i forgot not to ping

[gloomy carbon]

8-Ball :D

[surreal grove]

flush five contains Flush, 5oak, 4oak, 3oak, pair, and high card

[icy geyser]

So +15 Mult if you play 5 of a kind
High Card
Pair
3oaK
4oaK
5oaK

[surreal grove]

+18 on flush 5

[brisk rune]

exactly yep

[icy geyser]

That seems really weak tbh

That's like, +12 on the best realistic hand base-deck,
full house: high Card, pair, two pair, 3oaK, Full house

[brisk rune]

I can pump up the number by 1 or 2 if needed

[icy geyser]

I think a +1 to that would help it be a valid common joker to actually use

Like this is literally +8 Mult if played hand is a Pair, but what if you added other hands on top

[shadow pivot]

thats so much more useful thabk you so much

[sullen swift]

no prob

[brisk rune]

alrighty, +4 it is

[gloomy carbon]

idea for 8-Ball coming up!
Gives +8 Mult per 8 discarded this round (Currently +0 Mult)

[grand valley]

Made a friends cat "Sushi" into the Lucky Cat card sprite

[heavy flare]

82 ball when?

[grand valley]

some other ones I worked on

[graceful lava]

Does that include high cards

[brisk rune]

yeah

[fair patrol]

This counts as fan art, right?

(btw this wasn't intended to be the most spectacular or anything, it's just a lil thing I made cause I had some inspiration)

[gloomy carbon]

Basketball :D

[random berry]

Slightly perturbed basketball

[vocal marsh]

Holy shit bee eff dee eye

[gloomy carbon]

Bell :D

[surreal grove]

Hit the road, but worse

[gloomy carbon]

fair ^^"

[wintry thunder]

wiat isnt there an 8ball already...