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[rancid raft]

Already fixed

hahaha i didn't even know that was in the game

was going off this

[hushed moss]

updated my mod logo to include gary

[gloomy carbon]

idea for Goo?
Sets Chips to 200

[hushed moss]

oh thats really cool for a common actually

[gloomy carbon]

oh i can migrate it to a Common, maybe?

i'd like Goo to be Uncommon

[hushed moss]

yeah thats def a common

[gloomy carbon]

okie ^^

gonna draw a Common for this

[granite fable]

Does it trigger last or can you just place it in the leftmost slot?

[hushed moss]

i assume it works like joker order

[gloomy carbon]

mhmhmhm

the original concept was for that to happen last though ^^ but that's too difficult to play around

[gloomy carbon]

Polychrome Goo :D

(i've found that the ability feels like Uncommon material)

i rescind, this is Common material ^^

[neon scarab]

bleh

[agile pebble]

Lol

Im fighting for my life rn. Maybe the worst throw up experience ive had in years

[gloomy carbon]

how about Salt Circle, for the Joker that takes Goo's ability? :D

(same style as Web)

[forest nimbus]

I like that web

I feel like it should continue behind the Joker text though

[gloomy carbon]

idea for Apollo's Bracelet?
(Uncommon) Swaps Chips and Mult

doesn't affect scoring on its own, but the intent here is Chip Joker > Apollo's Bracelet > XMult Joker

[icy geyser]

That's a good idea
Or using it between 2 chip jokers

[gloomy carbon]

ah wait no that doesn't do anything

ah but

[gloomy carbon]

ya exactly ^^

[icy geyser]

Give 250 chips
Swap chips and mult
Give 250 chips
You have now 250x250

[gloomy carbon]

based actually! :D

or, a lot weaker, +Mult can act as +Chips

[icy geyser]

This beats like over half of white stake at the cost of pulling 2 copies of Stuntman

[gloomy carbon]

oh and, since hand levels give lots of chips, swapping first allows that to become Mult

[icy geyser]

Yeah

[gloomy carbon]

it's a bit niche though, which is why it's Uncommon and not Rare

but it's like a mini Plasma deck

funnily, it's blueprint compatible :)))

[brisk rune]

might wanna reword as Swaps poker hand's base Chips and Mult, otherwise you don't know when the swap happens

[gloomy carbon]

oh, no it swaps when scored

[teal island]

you missed the point

it doesnt swap the base chips and mult

when the joker is triggered, at the end of the round, in the scoring order, it swaps chips and mult

[brisk rune]

I perfectly showcased my point since I assumed it swapped poker hand and not final hand

[gloomy carbon]

if you know the code contexts, it's context.joker_main where it does that

[teal island]

It doesnt swap final hand either

You're just choosing not to read the explanation bro

It swaps whatever the current chips and mult are at the time it's triggered

[gloomy carbon]

generally, if a Joker doesn't say when it triggers, it's in joker_main

eg. Joker's +4 Mult applies then

[teal island]

It makes perfect sense Ghost

[gloomy carbon]

:}

[brisk rune]

that's what I meant by final hand yeah, my bad

[gloomy carbon]

how much should the Joker cost? $6, $7, $8?

[teal island]

idk

just pick whatever standard number feels best

[gloomy carbon]

$6 it is ^^

[gloomy carbon]

after playing with it a bit, i'm not sure i like it

ooh idea

Swaps Chips and Mult before and during scoring

worded a bit crappily but you get the idea

[shy yacht]

What would that do though

[gloomy carbon]

swaps chips and mult before the cards are scored
then, when scored in joker_main, swaps again

[shy yacht]

No I mean

How is that a benefit

[wintry drift]

yeah my chips have never been higher than my mult

except for early game

[shy yacht]

That’s

Do you guys know how multiplication works

[gloomy carbon]

aware, it's commutative

[shy yacht]

Yeah, so why would swapping them do anything

[gloomy carbon]

but swapping allows you to balance your Chips and Mult

[wintry drift]

No I dropped out in grade 10

[gloomy carbon]

that's the whole benefit of Plasma, and it's a great deck

[hushed moss]

why not just keep it as is

swap chips and mult

[gloomy carbon]

i didn't like it, it wasn't fun

[shy yacht]

So why not just say “balances score” or whatever la gauge balanced deck uses

[hushed moss]

rly? seemed kinda fun to me

[shy yacht]

Language*

[gloomy carbon]

because that's unconditional, and has been done before by eg. Cryptid

[wintry drift]

yeah I didnt know thats what you meant I thought you meant swaps the two numbers with each other

It was done by balatro first

who cares

[hushed moss]

i mean the current version is kinda complex and basically the same no

what advantage does this have compared to previous iteration

[gloomy carbon]

base hand chips get swapped, so Bonus Cards are effectively +30 Mult

so it's further swap control

like, without the base hand swap, a bonus card on top of 100x5 is 130x5

[brisk rune]

. _.

[gloomy carbon]

whereas with, it's 35x100

[hushed moss]

yeah true i didnt consider that

[gloomy carbon]

and then, you get to control when you want to swap back

so, for example, you could balance out two Chip / Mult Jokers

idk i'm gonna test the new ability ^^

[brisk rune]

yeah I'll wait for the next draft cause I did not understand

[wintry drift]

you aint alone

[gloomy carbon]

okay here's an example

the before swap comes first, so 2x10

+11 +11 = 24x10

+250 = 274x10

[brisk rune]

can you show the joker's description again

[gloomy carbon]

swap = 10x274

+250 = 260x274

suresure

[brisk rune]

alright now I think I get it

[gloomy carbon]

ah, swapping before doesn't work.

myeh, i wanna change the ability anyway, i don't like it

idea for Ransom Note?
Gives $25 every 5 [5] Jokers sold

feels Uncommon?

[hushed moss]

you need 1 empty joker slot and you only make a total of $10 assuming all your jokers costed 5

[gloomy carbon]

• their sell values

so, $20

[surreal grove]

me selling 5 rental jokers for max profit

[gloomy carbon]

aha, this is the MLM combo

[hushed moss]

5x5 is 25, -10 is 15

[gloomy carbon]

you mean -10?

ohh icic

but what if they don't cost $5? :>

[hushed moss]

subtract that and you get 20

[gloomy carbon]

also, Judgement

[hushed moss]

ehhhh i feel like id take golden over this even

especially because of the empty slot

[gloomy carbon]

would work really well with Stencil, now that you mention it :D

in testing, i've made a hefty profit ^^

made most of this in 1 round, + Yellow Face

[low steeple]

What stake and deck?

[gloomy carbon]

Yellow, White

it's stronger on Gold Stake, because of Rentals

[low steeple]

And perishables

[gloomy carbon]

mhmhmhm

[low steeple]

Neat idea

Cool art too

[surreal grove]

I have 2 ideas for Bank

Bank (uncommon): Add half of your $ [rounded up] to this jokers sell value after shop. [removes $ to add to sell value]

Bank (uncommon): Add half of $ [rounded up] gained to this jokers sell value. [removes $ to add to sell value]

[gloomy carbon]

the first idea is way op ^^

[surreal grove]

why?

the second one is stronger

[gloomy carbon]

ohh okay

still :>

you can get it back through Temperance, and it's incredible with Swash

[surreal grove]

yee

[gloomy carbon]

what counts as $ gained?

just, in general?

[surreal grove]

any time you gain $

[gloomy carbon]

ya that's a little weaker than the first one

and arguably, the better ability

[surreal grove]

the first one is more controlable

the second one is stronger value, but less money gain overall

I think I'll go with the first one

[surreal grove]

why did you think this?

[gloomy carbon]

mainly Swash / Temperance

[surreal grove]

so in two cases

[teal island]

Truhan

[brisk rune]

crazy frog

[surreal grove]

Health Insurance should be Rare

[brisk rune]

isn't health insurance practically a free win since it's infinite and doesn't have a condition (except 10% chips)

[surreal grove]

maybe it should be 50%, that could balance it out a bit more

[brisk rune]

maybe

not sure what the average lost score is but maybe

[surreal grove]

Mr. Bones is only 25%

[brisk rune]

yeah, what I meant is on which score % a player generally lose

[surreal grove]

I've lost with Mr. Death in a joker slot, so

[brisk rune]

like, do players' average scores average to 80% of required chips or another number

[brisk rune]

damn

[gloomy carbon]

ya, Mr. Bones is the strength level to compare to

[clear cosmos]

I hear yall hate AI

[burnt sable]

mr who 😭

[surreal grove]

Mr. Bones

[nocturne cosmos]

Localised

[gloomy carbon]

Possession: how does 13 > 10 sound?
(Rare) 1 in [[10]] chance for each purchased base edition Joker to become Negative

i feel it was too low to justify taking in a run

[agile pebble]

Evil cat vibes

[surreal grove]

make 1 in 8 and we have a deal

[brisk rune]

how about 1 in 4

[gloomy carbon]

ough but that's 1 in 4 with the die

1 in 9? deal?

[brisk rune]

1 in 3.824

[surreal grove]

too high for the effect

[burnt sable]

can you make it 1 in 1

[brisk rune]

make it 2 in 3

[gloomy carbon]

yes, i can! would you like me to? :>

[brisk rune]

make it NEVER HAPPEN

[burnt sable]

it surely will bring no consequences!

[gloomy carbon]

indeedy!

[burnt sable]

chudjoker.png

[surreal grove]

what about selling it to make a joker negative [can't show up again after being bought]

[chrome solstice]

feels kinda broken, especially when chips are getting way more upgrade from planet.

[gloomy carbon]

ehhhhh i meannnn that's Ectoplasm without the downside

[worldly glen]

https://tenor.com/view/chud-buddha-chuddha-chud-nothing-ever-happens-gif-5905117637949226818

[gloomy carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-dog-hug-dog-question-mark-dog-question-mark-gif-14144426802562365039

[surreal grove]

true, but you only ever get 1 per run

[gloomy carbon]

ya i meannnn what i'm saying is it's not that interesting imo -w-

[surreal grove]

fair enough

[gloomy carbon]

sorry to be blunt ^^

[heavy flare]

ghost
might i be allowed to turn you into a joker for the sillys?
and by you i mean your pfp.

[gloomy carbon]

oh, this lil' goober? :3

ya go ahead ^^

(though, please credit my OC)

[nocturne cosmos]

Essentially upping negative joker chances?

[gloomy carbon]

kind of, ya

[heavy flare]

100%

[surreal grove]

what does negative version look like?

[gloomy carbon]

i mean like, the main push for this Joker is continuous buying / selling to print a few Negatives

[gloomy carbon]

ooh lemme get that up rq ^^

[gloomy carbon]

mind, the negatives you get might not be good

esp on Gold Stake

[burnt sable]

me on my fourth negative jimbo after buying showman

[gloomy carbon]

and negative Possession <3

[hushed moss]

health insurance is x10 mult, no more purchases basically

interesting

[low steeple]

1 in 10 is 10% which is pretty high given base negative rate being as low as it is, I think 1 in 16 might be good, 1 in 8 with oops

[gloomy carbon]

true, i suppose

[surreal grove]

Has + x0.75 mult for each tarot card in your consumable area (currently x1.0 mult)

[gloomy carbon]

most i'm willing to do is 1 in 13

[hushed moss]

get 4 oops -> profit???

[gloomy carbon]

nah, the current wording's consistent with the game

[gloomy carbon]

i guess??? :3

[surreal grove]

huh

[hushed moss]

say "this joker gains" instead of "gives"

[gloomy carbon]

but this isn't an upgrade joker

[hushed moss]

hm true

yeah keep it as is

[gloomy carbon]

🤌

[surreal grove]

ah [me who mainly makes incremental or flat jokers]

[heavy flare]

What are you using to get this to work?

[gloomy carbon]

DebugPlus

[heavy flare]

Thank you

[gloomy carbon]

(Ctrl + Q to cycle editions)

(it has docs, you should give those a read)

[surreal grove]

what violin do?

[low steeple]

Golden fiddle negative looks so cool

[gloomy carbon]

Golden Fiddle (Uncommon): When Blind is selected, creates a copy of The Devil or The Chariot (Must have room)

[teal island]

Chippy

[low steeple]

What's the joker with cutting lines in the bottom right?

[gloomy carbon]

Scissors are Sharp :D

i've got a lot of specific tarot generators, and that's one of them

it generates Judgements

[surreal grove]

I love that!

[gloomy carbon]

lemme grab the lot of them ^^ two seconds

[low steeple]

Neat!

[surreal grove]

cursed

[gloomy carbon]

Golden Fiddle: When Blind is selected, creates a copy of The Devil or The Chariot (Must have room)
Reverie: When Blind is selected, creates a copy of The Heirophant or Temperance (Must have room)
S.E.E.S.: When Blind is selected, creates a copy of The Moon (Must have room)
Scissors are Sharp: When Blind is selected, creates a copy of Judgement (Must have room)
Caesar Cipher: When Blind is selected, creates a Planet card or a copy of Strength (Must have room)
Timepiece: On final hand of round, creates a copy of Death (Must have room)
Introspection: When Blind is selected, creates a Tarot card and changes type to Planets (Must have room)```

(wow, there are more of these than i thought ^^)

(all of them are Uncommon, though i'm thinking of bringing Timepiece down to Common)

(given how difficult and dangerous playing down to 1 hand can be)

[gloomy carbon]

please stop :)

[nocturne cosmos]

Chip-in/Chipper

Other +Chip effects are doubled

[low steeple]

For a free death? I'd say uncommon is still appropriate

Think about it this way

[surreal grove]

Retriggers +chip effects

[low steeple]

You're paying all your "hands left" money for a death card

[surreal grove]

me using Timepeice in every build....

[gloomy carbon]

idea for Blotted Joker?
+1 Hand if played hand contains 4 unscoring cards (3 [3] uses each round)

[nocturne cosmos]

Retrigger vs doubled chip ability values?

Is there a difference

[gloomy carbon]

okay fair ^^

ya, Uncommon it is

[surreal grove]

yes, think about when you have 2 of them

[nocturne cosmos]

Not base chips from scoring card

[surreal grove]

liner versus exponential

[nocturne cosmos]

But the +5 from hiker gets retriggered

[surreal grove]

and that's bad why?

[low steeple]

Does it? That's an upgrade effect, not a chip effect

[surreal grove]

huh

[nocturne cosmos]

No I’m just clarifying (for myself) that that’s the distinction of what a plus chip effect is for that joker

[surreal grove]

ah

[gloomy carbon]

idea for Dinner Table?
If played hand is a Full House, the pair of cards become Glass

[surreal grove]

I love that

[tame glacier]

jokers focused on FHes are cool since most jokers that affect FH just affect either part of the compound hand
speaking of that one, it's cool. auto-glass. since i assume this is an on-hand-play effect joker (like midas mask), instant x4 mult

nice touch to keep one spot of the table empty btw

[gloomy carbon]

thanks :D

[grave basin]

That's really creative

[gloomy carbon]

ooh i should probably give person O orange juice :>

[hushed moss]

pegi 18 for gambling themes

[round niche]

chibi versions of the legendary jokers

[surreal grove]

[chance not change (I keep mixing those words up for some reason)]

[brisk rune]

isn't second guessing a worse brainstorm? Or is there some synergy I'm not thinking of?

[surreal grove]

no, you right

[sturdy kiln]

i mean

nvm yeah lmao

[brisk rune]

[surreal grove]

fixed Second guessing

[brisk rune]

nice

[gloomy carbon]

i'd actually keep it as a Rare, but change it to 2 retriggers (second guessing :>)

[surreal grove]

oooo

I like

[brisk rune]

that would be third guessing then

[gloomy carbon]

hush

[brisk rune]

[gloomy carbon]

[surreal grove]

[gloomy carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/bfdi-a-bfdi-face-a-bfdi-face-bfdi-face-gif-5779384577546839292

[surreal grove]

I have a funnier idea

[brisk rune]

huh

[sturdy kiln]

softlock with double oa6

[brisk rune]

lol true

could start at 1/2 and decrease by 1 every time it happens

[gloomy carbon]

idk, i think it's a bit complicated at that point

[surreal grove]

yeah

[brisk rune]

😩

[gloomy carbon]

<3

[surreal grove]

the table has been turned gay

[mint raft]

gayble

[gloomy carbon]

<333

[mint raft]

evil table

[granite fable]

1/inf softlock

[brisk rune]

I assume the self-destruct is every time it triggers, so it would eventually self destruct if it was infinite

[surreal grove]

correct

[teal island]

why not just say like

Up to 5 times per hand

[surreal grove]

it would eventually kill itself

[teal island]

instead of slapping on a chance to self destruct

[granite fable]

But it could also not

There’s a 1/inf chance

[granite fable]

That was the joke

But it would eventually, obv

[surreal grove]

yee

[surreal grove]

at somepoint, you'll stop second guessing yourself

[granite fable]

Self destruct is a bit severe tho

Takes away a bit of the fun for me

[surreal grove]

that's fair

[granite fable]

Nice

[surreal grove]

I'll just gros michel Second Guessing and Ouroboros

[shy yacht]

So it's odds-based repeated triggering of one joker?

[surreal grove]

yep

[shy yacht]

That's fun

[sturdy kiln]

meh

[granite fable]

It’s a nitpick, but I actually prefer the cap per hand over the “listed probability but immune to oa6s” trick

[shy yacht]

these situations will be funny as hell though

and technically more probable

[sturdy kiln]

i think it could be
"Joker to the left has a 1 in 2 chance to retrigger. Denominator is increased if chance succeeds and resets after hand"

[shy yacht]

yeah i was gonna say having the odds degrade might be wise to avoid luck streaks

[sturdy kiln]

i dont really like the gimmick of being immune to oa6

[granite fable]

Yeah, it kinda ruins the point of an already pretty niche mechanic

Almost like giving up

If it had a cap instead, it would be a lot more rewarding

[granite fable]

Eight

[shy yacht]

I mean I get it and think it's important to be open to it for balancing

[granite fable]

Like infinity

[sturdy kiln]

8 is kinda busted

[granite fable]

Very clever

[shy yacht]

since sometimes shit can legitimately break to oa6 if you don't have that limitation in place

[forest nimbus]

Another Ouroboros

[shy yacht]

I know it's not the most fun thing in the world but it's not like it removes any of oa6's other capabilities

[forest nimbus]

Ouroboroses

[shy yacht]

...wait blueprint + ouroboros sounds insane

[granite fable]

Ourobora

[surreal grove]

even with oa6, you might not even hit it, also you need Second Guessing to self destruct first

[granite fable]

Ouroborii

[surreal grove]

it hits left, blueprint hits right

[shy yacht]

I agree it sounds fairly balanced

[forest nimbus]

That’s my favorite Latin plural declension but it comes from the singular “-us”

[granite fable]

And Ouroboros is Norse 😭

[forest nimbus]

I commented on Ouroboros because it’s a popular idea

I have my own

[granite fable]

Wraparound straights?

[sturdy kiln]

single most worthless joker in the game

[shy yacht]

I mean it's not worthless

[low steeple]

You get to have superpos and wee value in the same hand 🧠

[shy yacht]

it opens up 3 extra straight potentials

[surreal grove]

hack + photograph build be like

[sturdy kiln]

wow what a good joker

[graceful lava]

Superposition about to become OP /j

[shy yacht]

it's not super powerful, but there's more worthless stuff in balatro

[forest nimbus]

I don’t think it’s worth much

[sturdy kiln]

splash is literally better

[graceful lava]

Yeah like 4 mult

[sturdy kiln]

not even that

[shy yacht]

bait used to be believable

next you'll tell me superposition is goated

[sturdy kiln]

yes it did but how is that relevant

[misty tiger]

new joker, straights can be made with 4, 6, 7, 9, 10

[sturdy kiln]

half of the argument that this is worth something is superposition

[forest nimbus]

All others are gay instead

[sturdy kiln]

shortcut

[graceful lava]

Shortcut but stupid

Wait no that literally is just shortcut

Sorry

[misty tiger]

everyone loves the numbers 4, 6, 7, 9, and 10

[shy yacht]

so you agree there's something more worthless than the idea of wraparound straights

[sacred obsidian]

Hear me out

Straights can have pairs

[graceful lava]

If the thing that's more useless than wraparound straights is the thing that would benefit from wraparound straights

[forest nimbus]

They already can

[graceful lava]

That kinda says a lot doesn't it

[granite fable]

If hand is King and 2, hand counts as a Straight, and every rank in between is scored and destroyed

[sacred obsidian]

They can't

[forest nimbus]

They can

[granite fable]

Yes

Four Fingers

[graceful lava]

Make a joker that allows you to make Straights that also contain a high card

[sacred obsidian]

Yeah I'm not talking about four fingers though

[granite fable]

🤯

[sacred obsidian]

I'm saying that straights can have pairs and score

[granite fable]

Ohhhhh

[misty tiger]

straights can contain cards

[graceful lava]

How TF is a straight gonna contain a pair

[brisk rune]

I'm planning on making a joker that kinda goes with this idea in general

[granite fable]

Scenic Route

[sacred obsidian]

Like 5, 4, 4, 3, 2 and all 5 cards score

[graceful lava]

A straight needs 5 cards in a row

[sacred obsidian]

Shortcut but different

[graceful lava]

In order for that to work you'd need four fingers

[granite fable]

It’s one of those parallel universe mods

[misty tiger]

longcut

[graceful lava]

Haircut

[forest nimbus]

Four Fingers

[shy yacht]

Honestly

we need more jokers that can make straights attractive I think

[sacred obsidian]

Four fingers will make 1 card not score

[graceful lava]

So you need a joker in order to use another joker lol

[shy yacht]

they're around the same level as flush but are way harder to get consistently

[granite fable]

What if straights could contain apples

[forest nimbus]

Surely Joker Devouring His Son will do it

[graceful lava]

That would be incredible

[sacred obsidian]

They scale WAY better than flush does

[misty tiger]

the effect of the joker would be to allow duplicate ranks when making a straight

[shy yacht]

right I more mean to start with

and early game is important as hell

[forest nimbus]

Here

[graceful lava]

+100 mult if played flush contains a straight

[shy yacht]

flush scaling is definitely its drawback

[shy yacht]

this is just a straight flush

[graceful lava]

That's the joke

[brisk rune]

5-of-a-straight

[shy yacht]

oh!!!

[graceful lava]

When are we gonna get a 3 pair poker hand added

[granite fable]

Does this never trigger?

[misty tiger]

5 of a straight flush

[graceful lava]

Yes

[sacred obsidian]

Exactly, just looked it up and that is what I was tjinking

Thinking*

[shy yacht]

guys I've got it

[granite fable]

Sorry

[graceful lava]

Go on then

[granite fable]

Happens to the best of us

[shy yacht]

playing a straight gives you +$1 in real life

[graceful lava]

finally I can actually gain something from this

[granite fable]

bankruptcy

[shy yacht]

Me going to work in the balatro mines

[graceful lava]

Bloodstone

[granite fable]

But localthunk gets to steal $1 back from each of his players whenever he plays a non-straight

[brisk rune]

as a kid, I yearned for the chips

[graceful lava]

PHOTOCHAD!

[brisk rune]

😭😭😭

The Plant...

[granite fable]

Yearning Deck
13 unmodified Diamonds
13 Steel Diamonds
13 Gold Diamonds
13 Stone Diamonds

[sturdy kiln]

runner:

[shy yacht]

runner's awesome but they need more tbh

[sturdy kiln]

seance should be create a soul card if hand contains a straight imo

[gloomy carbon]

or, it could be the same as it is, and continue to be great for Straight Flush builds :)

[misty tiger]

that wouldn't be balanced, i think it should be at least two cards

[granite fable]

This is really funny

[shy yacht]

and yet you thought Ghost Trick was unbalanced for a 1/5 odds of giving you a spectral on a retrigger

[sturdy kiln]

yes because this is a joke

[shy yacht]

I should clarify I mean the card hand not heterosexuals /j

[shy yacht]

I am terrible at reading jokes

[brisk rune]

I'm gonna assume lots of peeps here have already made sexuality-related straight jokers

[forest nimbus]

What about fish-related Five of a Flush Jokers

[sturdy kiln]

yes

[forest nimbus]

[granite fable]

YES

[brisk rune]

Bridge: If played hand contains a Straight, retrigger every card in-between the first and last ones

[sturdy kiln]

bisexual joker: pairs of face cards are considered straights

[low steeple]

I do have a card concept that would sort of improve straights, Emerald drew it a bit ago

[misty tiger]

classic bisexual erasure 😨

[granite fable]

Then stop posting other stationery!

[sturdy kiln]

straightwashed joker: all hands are considered straights

[shy yacht]

as a bi man this fucking hurts

[granite fable]

I’m stupid

What does this mean?

[sturdy kiln]

?

[brisk rune]

They Were Just Friends: If played hand contains only a Pair, it is considered a Straight and destroy both cards

[shy yacht]

context being a lot of bi people tend to just get painted as either straight or gay

unless they're very strongly 50/50 like stereotypes of bi people paint

[sturdy kiln]

yeah

not really much i can do to broaden the horizon of possible mindsets in a card game

[grave basin]

https://tenor.com/view/balatro-estrogen-gif-12757421495138386956

[sturdy kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/balatro-testosterone-gif-6003752360734739552

[misty tiger]

fuck i was looking for that gif 😭

[granite fable]

🤔

[shy yacht]

I mean yeah but having a bi joker's ability specifically tie to bi erasure can be seen as punching down a bit

so it's safer to just go for a different ability for a joker like that

[granite fable]

I wonder what chemicals 10>Jack and King>Ace would be?

[sturdy kiln]

water and sand idk any other chemicals

[ember path]

these are still a wip (cant think of an image for chaos, and no clue what to do for toxigenesis) but here are the sprites for my consumables! any feedback?

[sturdy kiln]

ok

i was just thinking out loud (typing)

[granite fable]

If it helps, there’s probably no one who considered you meant anything by it

[sturdy kiln]

id hope

[shy yacht]

you're all good! I figured you didn't have ill intent ❤️

[misty tiger]

i really like the backgrounds

[shy yacht]

yeah they're very solidly textured

[ember path]

thanks, i didnt actually draw them i found a neat dither gradient generator lol

people who do dithering by hand scare me

[shy yacht]

share

giv

I need more dithering tools than aseprite's default

[ember path]

lunarlabs.itch.io/dither-machine

dont suppose anyone has any ideas for images to put for chaos and toxigenesis

[shy yacht]

[shy yacht]

hm, well what's toxigenesis?

[ember path]

it. gives a card the asbestos enhancement lmao

but asbestosmancy doesnt really sound all that cool lol

[brisk rune]

could toxi be the biohazard symbol?

☣️

[ember path]

good idea

i tried putting it as the top icon but that has like. 7x7 resolution MAX so its a nightmare getting things to fit there

[brisk rune]

xd

[bold rover]

I mean Asbestomancy does sound like a really funny pun

I made a horror-themed Joker based on the fly and called it Transmodifly

[ember path]

yeahh but i quite like toxigenesis

also i think its funny that the consumables are like 100x more serious than the effects they give

aquakinesis gives water damage

[bold rover]

Fair enough

[ember path]

still got no clue what to do for chaos

like how do you represent that

i could just. steal the unused chaos theory sprite

lmao

[brisk rune]

uh

[ember path]

but that wouldnt fit at all

[brisk rune]

mmh

broken earth?

[ember path]

i did try adding like a shattered circle, looked bad, but i can try again

[bold rover]

Random pixels that aren't even close to being the same?

Like the whole card is just a jumble of pixels
Like TV static but somehow even worse

[ember path]

ehh, if i just scramble the pixels thatll probably look awful

besides i wanna add a glitch effect in the future so thatll probably get that treatment lol

[bold rover]

Fair enough

[misty tiger]

maybe you could do this? it's a relatively common symbol for chaos

[minor ember]

Brand new Jokers by @modest fossil for the Wave 2 https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1352720098091208885 mod (its out) :)

[ember path]

woa nice

[bright jasper]

TERRARIA SWEEEEP

[shy yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/the-skeleton-appears-gif-24806632

[ember path]

couldn't get this looking nice either when i tried it, but i also didnt try very hard lol so i can try again

[brisk rune]

oh god I just though of the best idea for a straight joker

I'm going back home and drawing it

[heavy flare]

thank you!!!

its a retexture of scary face

an i can make changes to any part if you'd like

this isnt going out to the public either just wanted to include you because you were a bit of an inspiration for starting mine

[gloomy carbon]

awh :D lemme shoot over the actual asset :D

@heavy flare here's the 1X sprite

and 2X ^^

[bold rover]

Holds tiny ghost in hands

[heavy flare]

https://tenor.com/view/reginald-angry-eating-angry-eating-monster-house-gif-20013301

[bold rover]

https://tenor.com/view/choked-by-food-ill-help-you-what-friends-are-for-funny-laughing-gif-13615257

No

takes ghost back, slaps your face

Don't do dat

[gloomy carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/hamster-tussiniiduk32-gif-27701794

[bold rover]

MOTHERFFF-

[drowsy breach]

Turned my balatro render into an animation. Bro got lost.

[heavy flare]

thats really good

[bold rover]

then Jimbo pops up and offers you a game

[heavy flare]

its the live action one XD

[heavy flare]

what is the 2x file used for anyway?

i have yet to have a use case for it

other than making my drawings there so its less blurry

[gloomy carbon]

no idea -w-

oh, what do you think of this icon for my BFDI modpack?

[sturdy kiln]

its what you actually see in the game

[gloomy carbon]

(ingame)

[shadow pivot]

yall for fragment, im thinking shards, like shards of power, intelligence, creativity, destruction, light, darkness. they would be consumables that affect the ante or blind idk yet

[shadow pivot]

its used for pixel art smoothing option i think

[sturdy kiln]

"affect the ante" we dont go there with consumables

[shadow pivot]

they are rare, like very rare, and theres like 8 of them

[sturdy kiln]

perkeo:

[heavy flare]

affect the anti would be siiiiick

[shadow pivot]

they cannot be negative

[sturdy kiln]

what

[heavy flare]

I like it

[shadow pivot]

they just cant

[shadow pivot]

simple and good

[sturdy kiln]

strange

[shadow pivot]

they cant have any editions

wait

better idea

[sturdy kiln]

negative is the only edition lmao

[shadow pivot]

the packs you find them in only have buy & use

you cant find them in the shop

or something

[sturdy kiln]

oh

[shadow pivot]

oohh

maybe they die after one round in your consumables slot

[opal crest]

Or only one can exist in the area.

[heavy flare]

only one can exist at one time?

[low steeple]

They're both in-game

[sturdy kiln]

wee yeah

[low steeple]

One is for when pixel smoothing is on, the other for the opposite

[sturdy kiln]

ohh

pixel smoothing 🤢

[severe radish]

has anyone made texture packs that upscale or downscale

i ask because i have a sticker made at double the scale of regular stickers. but it also displays that way

and i need to like stop that from happening

its a modded sticker

[ember path]

ok i think i'm finally happy with toxigenesis

i also made a glitch one but its animated and has a floating sprite so a bit hard to send an image of lol

next up, figuring out wtf to do with chaos

[marble flame]

what'll it do

[ember path]

turn a card into an asbestos card

[marble flame]

ooh, interesting

deadly

[lament fable]

Delicious

[gloomy carbon]

got these two together in a run :D

[ember path]

what does the soul joker do?

[gloomy carbon]

X3 Mult, loses X0.5 Mult if played hand contains any face cards

[ember path]

interesting

[vital hound]

I tried to draw my legendary joker, I wanted to change the background but it turned out crap so I left it as is and just changed the palette a little bit, I tried to draw normal light and shadows on the coin but it also turned out crap

and in general the background needs to be changed completely, otherwise it blends in very well with the coin itself

[gloomy carbon]

idea for Ruby?
(Uncommon) Gains +2 Mult per played Mult card, enhancement changes each round (Currently +0 Mult)

[vital hound]

I don't understand how to draw such divorces, I just can't do it

[gloomy carbon]

(this is in reference to her and her sisters swapping out in every shot)

[vital hound]

Is he like afraid or smiling?

[gloomy carbon]

(referencing this pose)

[vital hound]

Aah ok

Hah cool

[paper hound]

https://tenor.com/view/plankton-plankton-meme-gif-15640350090336605258

first thing i was reminded of

[gloomy carbon]

😭

[gusty fox]

Hahahahaha looks the same 🤣

[gloomy carbon]

idea for Fries?
Creates a copy of Pluto at the end of the round, Planet card changes every discard (Must have room)

built around the idea of "digging"

[ember path]

ok i've finished the initial batch of power cards! all thats left is to code them in and i think i can release the mod

ofc feedback is welcome

[gloomy carbon]

i love the backgrounds :DDD

[ember path]

dither machine is a life saver lol

it absolutely carried these cards

[brisk rune]

:3

[gloomy carbon]

woah!! :O

Q J 10 9 8, with red seal kings and Baron and Mime 😭

[brisk rune]

wait red seal also retriggers held-in-hand effects?

[quick prairie]

Yep

[vestal mulch]

yes

[brisk rune]

oh damn

but yeah, funny stuff

[vestal mulch]

thats whole point

of like steel red seals

[quick prairie]

fist also works

[brisk rune]

didn't know that was a thing xd

[worldly glen]

i actually just got my first baron mime run today

[vestal mulch]

nicee

this is my current run

im so scared im gonna fumble

[worldly glen]

so beautiful

[vestal mulch]

fr

the legs arent even good tho i might have to sell later

blueprints would be better

or even a brainstorm

[odd kindle]

that’s super fun, I love that

[worldly glen]

the psychic killed me on like ante 12

[vestal mulch]

whats that again

im bad with names

[worldly glen]

must play 5 cards

[vestal mulch]

ah rip

always love the reroll voucher

[brisk rune]

thanks :D

[surreal grove]

long straights

[vestal mulch]

d

will balatro like

update

get new stuff

sometime

[nocturne cosmos]

So if you had all ranks in hand

You get max value

[brisk rune]

oh and @shy yacht, since you mentioned wanting more straight jokers

[brisk rune]

pretty much yeah

[nocturne cosmos]

Or does it also count duplicate cards that can continue (like A-10 and then each 9 in hand gives that)

[brisk rune]

yeah I though of that, probably not since it would be less fun otherwise, I'll add to the description than each rank can only be used once

so you're actually forced to go for looong chains

[nocturne cosmos]

What if the chain goes back around

[shy yacht]

Oooh, that's really fun!

[brisk rune]

probably wouldn't count since straights don't naturally do that

well uh

actually

with ace, I don't actually know

[brisk rune]

thanks :3

[nocturne cosmos]

Does it count what cards are available when you have shortcut then?

[paper hound]

Would this include ALL of the rank, or only one card?

For example, If I had:

7 8 9 10 J

K K K K K K K K K Q Q Q

Would it go

7 8 9 10 J

K K K K K K K K K Q Q Q

Or

7 8 9 10 J

K K K K K K K K K Q Q Q

[brisk rune]

yeah since straights naturally do that (with shortcuts )

[brisk rune]

I'll add in the description only one rank card per hand

[paper hound]

ah okay nice, btw the sprite is PHENOMENAL ❤️

[brisk rune]

thanks, I'm actually not particularly proud of it since I used lots of shortcuts (pun unintended) and pretty much blew away the idea of using the same colors as other cards xd

but yeah it's fun

[shy yacht]

You'll have a heck of a time coding it

shouldn't be too tricky though

[brisk rune]

updated desc

[brisk rune]

I don't actually code for now, seems too complicated for me, I only do these for fun

[shy yacht]

gotcha!

[brisk rune]

but yeah, glad y'all love this one lol

[surreal grove]

a weird set of 7s

[odd flame]

Jombo

I don't art <3

[steel bronze]

woah

[odd flame]

He got a bit chunky

[brisk rune]

it's Jombo Bolotro

[burnt sable]

https://tenor.com/view/plankton-plankton-meme-gif-15640350090336605258

[odd flame]

I need to pin down an art style, I'm getting 180 cards to draw on And I want to make the game, a limited version, but still

So idk how I should start

[languid otter]

draw one and then use your own drawing as a reference

[tired blade]

“rainbow road”
look inside
straight joker

[odd flame]

Hehehe

[steel bronze]

infinite reference glitch

[brisk rune]

hehehe ha

[languid otter]

dna

[oak nova]

I'm trying to make a legendary joker art and I just realized that I have very little skill in drawing like, so the character has a snout, but it's facing the camera, and I have no idea how to convey the snout lmao, I am not the best at arting lol

[paper hound]

https://tenor.com/view/close-door-robin-williams-stole-stole-my-line-son-of-a-bitch-gif-17586012

[brisk rune]

I could maybe help

mind posting what you have rn?

[oak nova]

here's me panicing trying to figure out what was wrong with it lmao

[brisk rune]

well firstly the face is too long, don't mind drawing the head's shape over your reference if that can help

for the snout, you can see in your reference that it is a different color than the fur around it, so you should also take this into account

[oak nova]

yeag I realized that early but was unsure how to make the dark color look good 😔

[spice bone]

Gorgeous

[oak nova]

the color of the snout was darker than the outline, and it looked off lol

[brisk rune]

have you tried the balatro black?

[oak nova]

I don't think I did lol

[brisk rune]

that's pretty much how far you can go in term of black-white if you're trying to mimic balatro's artstyle

also, the best way to differentiate different body parts is shading, try adding a lil' shadowing and lighting to see if it helps differentiate it enough from the fur

[brisk rune]

thanks :3

[oak nova]

wait, isn't that black the same as the outline?

[brisk rune]

the outline?

[oak nova]

also thanks for all this, I'll try it all out, hehe

[brisk rune]

👍

[oak nova]

mr bones as refrence

eyes and side of skull are the same color

[brisk rune]

ah, then yeah it is

balatro black :3

[oak nova]

also, only just realized I forgot to save yesterday, lol, gonna have to start from square oneee

[odd flame]

Balatro has a simple color scheme

I like that

[oak nova]

I'm not that good at it yet lol

I gotta get on that color game

[brisk rune]

balatro has a simple color scheme, and I decided to destroy it :trolled:

[oak nova]

here's where I was trying all this btw lol
#1353027212772769792 message

[craggy mountain]

Dogfight

[steel bronze]

shadow puppet joker but i dont know what effect it sould have im maybe thinking something to do with black suits or number looking the same become the same suit but that would just be
smeared joker on steroids
so what could i do

[stiff plinth]

Incredible!

[heavy flare]

Copies the affect of 1 random uncommon joker

[steel bronze]

hmmm sure🤷

its like if baseball crad and blueprint had a child

[heavy flare]

Yep

[surreal grove]

All cards score as [random suit]

[steel bronze]

blueprint is cheating on brainstrom

[heavy flare]

Lmaooo

New lore

[surreal grove]

I'm pretty sure Blueprint and Brainstrom are in an open relationship

[steel bronze]

i ship blueprint and brainstorm bleustrom 4ever

[nocturne cosmos]

Me when dogs are fighting

[graceful lava]

it should have an ability related to aces

[graceful lava]

woah that's a cool design

[steel bronze]

thanks

[graceful lava]

hmm...

I almost like to think the ability should be related to hands or hand size

like...

Shadow Puppet
When a joker is sold during a round, gain +1 hand

[craggy mountain]

This was the concept

Unsure if it's a Common and will definitely toy with the amount of retriggers but its there

[graceful lava]

I mean... in what situations do you want an ace retriggering that many times though

it would only really be useful for editions like glass

[heavy flare]

Question
Would it be a permanent hand size increase or would it be only as long as the joker is owned?

[graceful lava]

no no hands not hand size

[heavy flare]

Ohhh
Question still stands

[graceful lava]

no it just gives you 1 hand

you have 1 hand remaining, sell a joker and now you have 2

keep in mind it's only jokers being sold too

[steel bronze]

i understud hand size too

[graceful lava]

doesn't work with consumables

it's not a scaling joker

it's just 1 added hand, then next round your hand amount is back to normal

[heavy flare]

Meh

I was thinking shadow puppet as in it’s shadowing under something like watching it work and trying to replicate it

[graceful lava]

that's not a bad way of looking at it

[surreal grove]

should be uncommon, and retrigger 5 times

[graceful lava]

but

[steel bronze]

i thougth the hand was goign to be like that after some antes

[graceful lava]

I feel like this game doesn't really need more dupllication jokers

no absolutely not lol

and like I said

it's HANDS

as in the amount of hands you can play

[steel bronze]

i get it

[graceful lava]

ok good, just making sure

idk I don't think that would be too OP right

you're sacrirficing a joker in order to keep going, but the thing is you have to consider if you need that joker to even keep going

[heavy flare]

Makes more insensitive to pick up negative tags

[graceful lava]

that's true

and that's fitting considering it's shadows

[steel bronze]

this is the stupidest reference i could think of and i think no one is going to get it without an image

[burnt sable]

Gary please add details

[steel bronze]

i put allan add more effects in the description

[steel bronze]

jimbo❤️

[thorn tapir]

it's been about a month in the works now (mostly spent waiting for my ceramics teacher to actually fire it but) he is real now!

I call him the jimbowl

[burnt sable]

james

[steel bronze]

JIMBOWL😭

[burnt sable]

THE JIMBOWL

[heavy flare]

Jimbowl 🔥🔥🔥

So hot 🥵

[steel bronze]

very fragile

[thorn tapir]

I'm really proud of how the shape turned out, I could've done better on the glazing but considering this is only the second project I've actually glazed it came out pretty good!

[steel bronze]

SOME ONE MAKE A JOKER OUT OF HIM

[thorn tapir]

since it's a ceramic I thought maybe something with stone cards? like duplicate a random stone card in deck

[burnt sable]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-unclephuc-mha-my-hero-academia-all-might-gif-9745763489067602529

[heavy flare]

I’m gonna turn him into a joker

[thorn tapir]

Fire just make sure you ping me when it's done

[heavy flare]

100%

[thorn tapir]

thanks pal :3

[steel bronze]

i did a calligram ? joker it looks a joker doing a :3 face lol

[graceful lava]

I like it

kinda gives off graffiti or street art vibes

[steel bronze]

should i leave the background white or maybe shade it so it look like paper

[graceful lava]

cool joker, what does it do /ref /j

[thorn tapir]

haven't decided, @heavy flare says he's gonna figure something out

[graceful lava]

surely it has to be glass jokers

[flat moat]

im new to joker making but should this be rare or ledgendary

half says its rare and other half says ledgendary is too rare

[magic sierra]

rare

it's fine but it needs stuff like chad or sock and buskin to be more powerful

[flat moat]

hence the name

[magic sierra]

exactly

[flat moat]

could scale well with chad

[magic sierra]

yeah

[graceful lava]

sock + hack + chad + dusk + seltzer

[opal crest]

And custom Jokers that rescore cards, thus, causing additional retriggers.

[flat moat]

idk what hack is 💀

[opal crest]

Retriggers 2, 3, 4 and 5.

[graceful lava]

yep

[flat moat]

OH

[graceful lava]

the Seinfeld one

[flat moat]

thought hack was shrot for something

but u legit meant hack

[magic sierra]

does go crazy with the one joker i made tho :P

[flat moat]

which one

[magic sierra]

uh

one sec

[graceful lava]

the one

[magic sierra]

correct

[graceful lava]

duh

[flat moat]

What one????

[magic sierra]

yes its strong no i dont care

it's more based around theming

[graceful lava]

I'd say it's a good legendary

for Cryptid

[magic sierra]

i have found it's worse than perkeo

[graceful lava]

oh

[flat moat]

u gotta tell me how to mod and draw like that

[magic sierra]

i like doing legendary runs for fun by finding seeds with a soul card

[flat moat]

im trash at both

[magic sierra]

Well uh

I'm graduating with a diploma in game art and design in june sooo

[drowsy breach]

I like it. Retriggers are really strong but they're only good with a few select jokers or enhanced cards. That plus the fact you're limited to a 4 card hand means it's actually pretty fair imo

[zenith crow]

Hanging chad if he hit the gym

[flat moat]

congrats

[magic sierra]

thats how i do it

[opal crest]

Most retriggers would be re-done by this one. 🤫

[zenith crow]

Also nice art

[graceful lava]

damn that's cool

[magic sierra]

Thank

better view ig

She has four arms which is why the effect

[flat moat]

where do you make your art?

[graceful lava]

is Jackie from something or are they like an OC

[magic sierra]

My oc :P

Got her as my pfp atm

[graceful lava]

thats cool

[zenith crow]

I like the art

[severe radish]

me when i have oa6

[magic sierra]

tyty

[severe radish]

two oa6

i mean

[magic sierra]

exactly what i was thinking
so many people think retriggering is innately strong on its own

[severe radish]

(its strong)

its not that good but

if u can have room for it

its pretty nice

as in retriggers in general

[opal crest]

Or 1 with this.

[severe radish]

thats a sick voucher

[graceful lava]

so how does this work with that one boss blind

[severe radish]

i think this is really nice

if u build for glass... oh boy

[graceful lava]

the 1 in 7 chance of drawing face down cards

[zenith crow]

All your cards are down 💔

[opal crest]

Basically, yeah. 😂

[magic sierra]

agreed
red seal on its own is just like "oh woo 8 more chips. amazing." but ofc the main naneinf strategy in vanilla is retriggers

[severe radish]

even for ante 8

lucky cards

[magic sierra]

i loooove lucky cards

[opal crest]

Lucky Cards and Gold Seals would really be a combo for Space Cadet... rescore amount go brr.

[heavy flare]

he finna soup up a card lol

hed give played cards a random a random seal and enhancement
cards played with seals or enhancements will have those changed every time their played

[severe radish]

i hope theres a limit

it could infinitely retrigger

[magic sierra]

Wait holy shit card idea
Whenever you gain money during a round it gives that amount as mult

[opal crest]

65536 at most.

[heavy flare]

however i dont do mods i just texture

[opal crest]

And it's a rescore, not a retrigger... it retriggers the retriggers. 😂

[thorn tapir]

the vampire synergy goes Crazy

[zenith crow]

Shopping joker.. jimbo buys mult

[flat moat]

only appears once means u can only have this jopker one time during the whole run

invisible or anything else cant copy it

[magic sierra]

art could be like scrooge mcduck jumping into the coins but its jimbo

[zenith crow]

I see the vision

[magic sierra]

Probably common ngl

[zenith crow]

Golden card gaming

[magic sierra]

that doesnt do anything

its not like wee joker where it collects mult

its a trigger

[zenith crow]

Talisman

[severe radish]

does it not?

[magic sierra]

Well gold cards are end of round so

[severe radish]

golden ticket though

[magic sierra]

Well I mean it could since its just a concept but thats not what i intend

[zenith crow]

True

[heavy flare]

It’s the cup he drinks his blood from

[magic sierra]

that is true

plus gold seal

[zenith crow]

Yeah, talisman plus any kind of retrigger

[thorn tapir]

Real...

[magic sierra]

mhm

[flat moat]

what do you think

[shadow pivot]

how d you do that text???

[flat moat]

magic

here https://ofmonstersandken.itch.io/balatro-text-tool

[shadow pivot]

ohh yeah baby

[flat moat]

XD

[zenith crow]

I mean.. what if you unlock everything?

[shadow maple]

im in the joker making mood again

what should i make....

[flat moat]

then its not so good, as its a 1/30 chance of being a ledgendary

and the you gotta worry about yorick and chicot

[zenith crow]

Me after I land on madness or dagger

[flat moat]

💀

and it's eternal XD

[shadow pivot]

im trying to get it back

[shadow pivot]

i want to die now

[magic sierra]

gay gay or queer gay

[low steeple]

finally, a good joker

[magic sierra]

both are good im just curious if it means yaoi

[gusty fox]

Plot twist, gives polychrome to all Jokers

[misty tiger]

it's all yaoi

[magic sierra]

WOOO

[flat moat]

Should I nerf money amount

[magic sierra]

i think thats good cause its decent early on but its a very dangerous trade-off late game

[thorn tapir]

Absolute cinema

[shadow pivot]

Shard of Greed: Every shop this Ante has 2 free reroll and 2 extra booster packs.

[flat moat]

yeah

so uncommon

[shadow maple]

biblical joker

[flat moat]

this one is only good if you got 1000 oops all 6's

[shadow maple]

and its any joker

[shadow pivot]

is this any good?

[flat moat]

what about itself

[shadow maple]

except itself

[magic sierra]

googol play card moment

[flat moat]

fr

thats the inspiration

except more fari

[sullen raft]

99% of buffoons sell this joker before they hit it big

[thorn tapir]

99.99% of all gamblers quit right before they hit it big

[flat moat]

XD

[drowsy breach]

my first impression of this is "riff raff" but it's not as good

[shy yacht]

Honesetly this is probably nerfed by the fact you can't synergize around it

and given how many jokers there are, that might be uncommon, or even just COMMON

[languid otter]

riff raff my goat

[drowsy breach]

you need an open joker slot for a 1 in 7 chance of getting... a joker?

[shadow maple]

any joker!

[drowsy breach]

maybe it if it were guaranteed uncommon or rare it would be good, but "any joker" means mostly commons and some uncommons

[shadow maple]

-# legendaries included

[shadow maple]

oh yea i can change to rare

wait is that a joker already

[magic sierra]

generally by the design philosophy of the game legendaries are only from soul cards

[shadow pivot]

is this any good? its a consumable btw

[languid otter]

so a 1 in 7 chance to get a like 1 in 15 chance at a good joker