#đŸƒăƒ»off-topic

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spare sierra
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Maybe self:juice()

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Until that function call returns true, when the event is removed from the queue

atomic arrow
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Ah you have multiple queues going on at the same time, right?

terse basalt
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Timing

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oh my

atomic arrow
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I’m of a single track mind since I usually work with Python/Julia but also because I just wanted a simple example to work with

terse basalt
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that can go really wrong really quickly

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Also why is there lerping in the event queue

spare sierra
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Timing is a huge part of Balatro and this system makes sense to me enough that I'm not fighting it all the time

atomic arrow
terse basalt
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I hope you're not handling rendering stuff like joker shakes in the middle of the event processing

atomic arrow
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Here

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They linked a video maybe in response to it

terse basalt
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At least mostly

atomic arrow
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I’m still trying to understand when a Gold Card adds itself to the queue, which queue specifically, and how it goes in and out of the queue

spare sierra
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Why?

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I haven't had issues with that

terse basalt
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E.g. you should do the chip scoring in the background and then slowly display the results

spare sierra
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Events don't draw anything to screen, but they can do whatever they want aside from that

terse basalt
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See decoupling in The Pragmatic Programmer

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Or really ask any professional about decoupling

atomic arrow
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so as you hit invaders they descended faster

spare sierra
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If the game works and I enjoy using these systems I don't think it's an issue

terse basalt
spare sierra
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As long as I supply a modding interface when that time comes

atomic arrow
# terse basalt OW

I learned this supposed fact as a compliment towards the perfect balance of the game

atomic arrow
atomic arrow
terse basalt
terse basalt
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natively I mean

terse basalt
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maybe sth like that

atomic arrow
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Also, okay, Gold Cards are fine but there’s also Steel

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Since Steel are per hand they need to go out of the queue when triggered

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But they’re still in your hand

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So they need to go back in

spare sierra
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No not like that, it's hard to describe really because my event queue isn't an 'event' in typical terms

atomic arrow
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In a way that doesn’t break the game

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(Again my idea would be to have listeners, so the actual events can go in a queue or a stack if you’re a MTG player)

spare sierra
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It's more of a timing queue than anything. So the cards instantly trigger effects, and when the effect triggers they add the timing thing onto the queue so you see it all in order. Sometimes it's submitted from the card itself, sometimes from some external scoring loop

atomic arrow
terse basalt
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Note that on_hand is registered into end_turn

terse basalt
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and it calls activate then re-registers itself when a hand is played

terse basalt
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wait

atomic arrow
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Not anymore there’s a blanket

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I think localthunk was talking about event resolution rather than triggering I think

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But I was asking about how do they know when to trigger

terse basalt
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Alternatively:

class Steel(CardModifier,CustomListAction):
    ...
    def on_leave(self,lis):
        if lis is end_turn:
            raise Refuse()
spare sierra
terse basalt
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that's very natural

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I have no bad comments on that

terse basalt
atomic arrow
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That’s something I would expect to be needlessly memory intensive, even if it’s easy

spare sierra
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No before any events are added

terse basalt
atomic arrow
spare sierra
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Yes

atomic arrow
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Maybe for every action is better

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So does it iterate for every action?

terse basalt
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is time to process them

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I guess

atomic arrow
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Maybe a card could affect my scoring while in the deck

terse basalt
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Or have a register_special_events

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which is called in the card constructor

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which adds evt handlers

atomic arrow
spare sierra
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If I play a high card, it asks:

  • each played card what it contributes in terms of chips, mult, other effects
  • each joker card what it contributes per played card (returns instantly if that joker isn't the type of joker that can)
  • each card still in hand what it contributes, if anything
  • each joker what it contributes for holo/foil edition, then effect, then Polychrome
    Etc
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This doesn't have a lot of overhead

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There aren't that many cards to check and the ones that don't contribute also return instantly

atomic arrow
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Now I want to see how many cards does someone need to have in hand for this to take a long time

terse basalt
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Virtual calls are still insanely fast

atomic arrow
terse basalt
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as opposed to static calls to fixed functions whose addresses are known beforehand at compile time

atomic arrow
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You mean class methods?

terse basalt
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in C++ it's more contrived because stackvars have static dispatch on everything but whatever

atomic arrow
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I guess this maybe faster not in Python

terse basalt
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unless you have __slots__

neon mantle
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I know the conversation was ushered here, but this very much seems like a #dev-talk kind of discussion

atomic arrow
terse basalt
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but even with THAT 5M+ in py is fine I think

atomic arrow
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Also to note I was also thinking of doing it in Julia where you can have typed arguments

terse basalt
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There's also Cython

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but uhh

atomic arrow
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I think it’s faster than Python but Idk how much it would be

neon mantle
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@atomic arrow @terse basalt can you please take this to the #đŸ’»ăƒ»dev-talk channel? Great place to talk shop about coding practices

terse basalt
atomic arrow
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Wait do we listen to the dev or to the mod? lol

neon mantle
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uhh.... I didn't think so?

spare sierra
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Both 🙂

neon mantle
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lol, thanks localthunk

dense salmon
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I've lost the game.

arctic robin
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Damn, tough luck. What hand made you fail?

jade warren
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https://store.steampowered.com/app/2479950/Cosmos_Delivery_and_Logistics/
Oh, another Poker deckbuilder!
This one more in the vein of Dance of Cards (RPG, non-roguelike) than Balatro, but still sick

Ultra-long-haul space trucking doesn't normally provide much entertainment, but Cosmo has a nose for trouble – and a nose for poker games in particular. Luckily for him, the locals along Interstellar-81 are always up for a game. They just don't need to know about the ace up his sleeve...CHEAT Use your deck of cheat cards to change your hand, cha...

Price

$9.99

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zealous wasp
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Possibly the dumbest way to lose a run ever (Inscryption spoilers)

fiery grotto
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lol

atomic arrow
zealous wasp
atomic arrow
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Also I guess the cards feel pain

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I watched someone play against the Miner

zealous wasp
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Uhh not quite lol, but this game is really fun when playing it spoiler free so I’d again suggest you get it

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The deck building expects are really well done, same as the story

atomic arrow
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I don’t know enough about what comes after in the game for it to seem interesting

zealous wasp
cosmic bobcat
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You’ve doomed us all, po3 is going to take over the world

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Avid inscryption player

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Kaycees mod is dope asf

zealous wasp
cosmic bobcat
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Ong and also the strats when mods are added

zealous wasp
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Especially with the new cards

cosmic bobcat
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There’s a yugioh mod

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It’s so fun

ashen granite
cosmic bobcat
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How is that a spoiler exactly?

lone frost
ashen granite
cosmic bobcat
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No they’re mentioned in the trailer if I remember correctly

neon mantle
verbal geyser
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pain

tawdry ore
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damn that joker on CRACK

hot thorn
wispy rampart
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hello

wise gust
# verbal geyser

just use guardian bubble random growth joker and royal knight :clueless:

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easy wins and counters these pesky ying yang losers with assassin rushers

wise gust
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also arena - the one that has 2 scope tiles

wise gust
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guardian underrated

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trust me, its very good

verbal geyser
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knight hehe

verbal geyser
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I love this my design

atomic arrow
verbal geyser
weary bay
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@bleak mauve
You can make novel things with AI art, but many bad actors don't. The demand for things like anime-esque art for things like mobile games is going down because the game developers can get good enough quality assets (for a mobile game) at much lower cost with AI.

civic niche
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i have made so many suggestions in facehand discord. 😅

bleak mauve
atomic arrow
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I think the bigger issue is with the economic and political system these changes are occurring in rather than the technology itself

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Not that I’m gonna get into details given the rules of the server

wispy rampart
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hi

soft lion
neon mantle
# bleak mauve Yeah, jobs will die out as a result of AI, that's how it tends to go when a new ...

commercial VO has already seem to have taken a liking to AI. We had a partner at my work recently send us some VO to implement, and it was done with AI (and tbh the quality was "just ok"), but it only cost them something like $250 for a ton of content with multiple variations. Did some LMS content for my work yesterday and they started using AI for the VO work in our training materials, too...

atomic arrow
neon mantle
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Yeah, that's fair. It has.

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I did see that there is a battle royale FPS that is using it to generate VO, which on one hand does suck for voice actors, but on the other hand seems like a cool way to use it. I imagine that sports games might give this a go for the anouncers at some point, too.

fiery grotto
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@atomic arrow why not?

atomic arrow
fiery grotto
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:||local||thunk:

terse basalt
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@fading idol

terse basalt
verbal geyser
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Oh god

tawdry ore
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im gonna binge play the entirety of the spirits of hell

dense salmon
gleaming pumice
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Are there any good poker games besides balatro and poker quest?

dense salmon
abstract violet
gleaming pumice
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For such a popular game it seems woefully underrepresented in the pc gaming space

leaden jetty
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Well 106 hours later I've finished a campaign in Baldur's Gate 3 😄

verbal geyser
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So satisfy

rough marsh
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me who has bad device so i cant plau this

verbal geyser
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Err
How to fix that glitch

atomic arrow
verbal geyser
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It randomly fix lol

verbal geyser
atomic arrow
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Marvel Snap fanart

verbal geyser
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Random Dice Event stuff

verbal geyser
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Is that a sans? Lol

soft lion
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yes

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defenitely sans

neon mantle
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what are the odds 🍕

steep cliff
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XD

sacred radish
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when someone inevitably makes a Dio joker they gotta put this on the side

pulsar basalt
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all arcana packs contain The World

cedar basin
verbal geyser
sacred radish
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The TBoI mod has a "suggestions" channel so I thought I'd throw my hat into the ring and spread Balatro propaganda

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would you consider using any of these cards in a TBoI run?

hot thorn
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no opinions on the TBoI stuff but

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yes, spread Balatro

hot thorn
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mod suggestion for a game called “The Binding of Issac”

acoustic raptor
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I got into two friendly fights today and it made me realize how many guys just wanna fight and put each other into pins and such. Obviously you want to do this with people you know but do a lot of dudes wanna just fight people and then never do anything about it?

fiery grotto
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Idk, I'm more of a nerd who just lives his life at school, never really been in any fights.

acoustic raptor
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Do you want to be in a fight?

fiery grotto
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Nah, Im fine with how I am at school. Id rather have little respect with no bruises vs respect with lots of bruises

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(Also Im weak but thats besides the point)

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but I gtg so gn

acoustic raptor
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Goodnight

soft lion
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It's a lot of fun and a great exercise

verbal geyser
atomic arrow
verbal geyser
fiery grotto
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that dragon do looks cool

atomic arrow
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Have you played Dicey Dungeons? @verbal geyser

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It’s not a Tower Defense but it has anthropomorphic dice

verbal geyser
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The skill of growth dice is
Can growth 1 dot to myself and reroll it.

However it stop growing if 7dot

verbal geyser
atomic arrow
fiery grotto
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Dicey dungeons is a fun game

verbal geyser
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I see that before

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Btw
I see spoiler..

atomic arrow
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The game doesn’t have a lot of spoilers

verbal geyser
atomic arrow
fiery grotto
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||A||SAP

atomic arrow
verbal geyser
atomic arrow
verbal geyser
verbal geyser
verbal geyser
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I gonna go.
I gonna murde somebody in game real quick

fiery grotto
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story of my life

verbal geyser
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That why i very love this game

fiery grotto
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I'd need to learn more about the game to comment

verbal geyser
fiery grotto
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eh

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1 addicting game at a time

verbal geyser
atomic arrow
verbal geyser
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Moba is too hard for me

atomic arrow
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Fair

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But I wouldn’t say I’m good at it

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Even with almost 3k hours lol

fiery grotto
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lol

verbal geyser
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What different about 3 lane
What carry
I don't understand lol

atomic arrow
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I mean if you’re asking the lane difference depends on the game

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But the carry is the hero who can have the most impact if they get the most resources

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And they can carry the team to victory

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Not alone, usually, but with the right support

verbal geyser
atomic arrow
verbal geyser
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Heal and find resources?

atomic arrow
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I think control is a more common tool

verbal geyser
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Hmmm

atomic arrow
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It can serve as healing (your opponents are unable to attack) but also as an offensive tool (they can’t react to being attacked)

verbal geyser
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It so complicated
My brain is melting candle_melt

atomic arrow
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Like towers that slow, freeze, or stun

verbal geyser
atomic arrow
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You might have towers that recover lives too

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But they’re not usually the core damage dealers of your strategy I imagine

verbal geyser
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Some dice can TROLL the opponent

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Some dice is deal dmg if you use correctly

atomic arrow
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I imagine some dice need to be leveled up more than others

verbal geyser
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Some dice can build your dice to more stronger

atomic arrow
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If you can manipulate which ones level up first

atomic arrow
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Those would be carries or pos 1

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(position)

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There are 5 players on the team, so 1 gets the most resources and 5 the least

atomic arrow
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There aren’t many abilities that manipulate resources in DotA 2, but there are tasks any character can do that manipulate resources, and usually it’s the role of the supports (position 5) to do them

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For example, you can manipulate the enemies so there are more enemies

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Then the carry can kill the enemies to gain resources

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Other MOBAs tend to not have this specific mechanic though

verbal geyser
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In my game
You also can co-op for reward
You can play with random rookie to help him
Or you can help partner to survive more wave by "support" them

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By the way
The "Troll" dice ,some dice might have a support skill

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Dice_Tier4_Assassin
Instead of decrease dot , it add dot to random target

atomic arrow
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Warcraft III. Or, well, maybe real-time strategy games

atomic arrow
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Tower defense games removed the units but kept the building

verbal geyser
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Because they have a tower

atomic arrow
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MOBAs removed the building but kept a single unit

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Auto-Chess
 I forgot what they removed

verbal geyser
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Hmm

atomic arrow
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I used to have this well-thought out and explained

verbal geyser
atomic arrow
verbal geyser
atomic arrow
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Don’t you try to kill waves of AI enemies that try to reach the other end of a track?

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I think it’s closer to competitive tower defense than to auto-chess

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But they’re similar

verbal geyser
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Hmm

atomic arrow
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If you like tower defense games you might like this video https://youtu.be/f6KTtb1r1lg?si=yGBz-Jwz95ZMXjRV

I've spent many hours clicking away at various tower defence games, and there's something so addicting about them. Taking time to set everything up and watching them demolish everything in it's path. I know I'm certainly not the only one who has played hundreds of hours of TD games, but maybe I can try to pick apart certain mechanics of the gam...

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verbal geyser
verbal geyser
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I gonna sleep
Bye

atomic arrow
vestal cedar
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does anyone know what the bpm of the balatro theme is (not slowed down)

finite owl
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Working on a MBDTF piece and I was going to add a flower pot but now that the background is done I don't want to touch it, it looks so good but I want to do more. Any suggestions would be appreciated đŸ”„

sacred radish
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Was thinking about making a Super Mario World romhack solely so I could introduce the protagonist like this

atomic arrow
verbal geyser
fiery grotto
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stone

sacred radish
atomic arrow
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That’s interesting in the context of the Mario games that are plays

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Like SMB2 and some of the Paper Mario games

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And kinda of the upcoming Peach game

sacred radish
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this is specfically about the romhack approach

left hamlet
tawdry ore
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i found someone writing innapropriate stuff in spray paint on roblox

hot thorn
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are you deadass with what you're saying right now?

sullen portal
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it blows my mind that roblox has like 70m DAU

wispy grotto
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roblox has really grown these past few years

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unfortunately not entirely in the direction of what the community favours

sullen portal
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200 million MAU good lord

wispy grotto
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ikr

atomic arrow
warm sedge
fiery grotto
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I WON!

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WOOOO!

fiery grotto
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I got softlocked D:

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IT FIXED AFTER A FEW MINUTES!

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YES

atomic arrow
verbal geyser
atomic arrow
verbal geyser
soft lion
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The blue star dragon

verbal geyser
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Almost 90% of request in my event
Just need a legendary frame

atomic arrow
verbal geyser
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Yea

atomic arrow
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Also it attracts more attention when sharing ideas

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Appealing commons are rare

verbal geyser
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Yea
The legendary is kinda cool than unique or below

fiery grotto
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million dollars!

fiery grotto
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omg didnt even see that

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thats so cool looking

fiery grotto
fiery grotto
leaden jetty
fiery grotto
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but thats v8.0

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there is a bug on that version that makes whales way more powerful

leaden jetty
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ah fair, I was just hopping through my old numbers looking for big ones

fiery grotto
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you good

fiery grotto
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earliest Ive technically

fiery grotto
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@atomic arrow Lymirics balatrojoker

fiery grotto
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eh

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only know one and found it funny

atomic arrow
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I don’t know any off the top of my head. I’m not a fan but also not a hater either

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This magazine I used to read as a kid often had them that’s about it

atomic arrow
fiery grotto
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yeah

fiery grotto
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woke up to find it was true

atomic arrow
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Or three

fiery grotto
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those arent the verses

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I dont remember them exactly

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There once was a man from Peru;
who dreamed he was eating his shoe.
He woke with a fright, in the middle of the night, to find that his dream had come true.

leaden jetty
fiery grotto
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8 plates early go crazy

lone frost
leaden jetty
# lone frost

Hello americans, I am a brit who started his workday 40 minutes ago

leaden jetty
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https://store.steampowered.com/app/2459550/Emberward/
A fun new demo from another Solo Developer. Take tower defence mechanics, add a small deck of tetrominos and buffs to manipulate the paths of the attacking foes, and encompass that over a roguelike adventuring path with selective upgrades and you get this. I had a blast on my first run

Emberward is a roguelite tower defense game focusing on maze building and interesting tower mechanics. You are a guardian who is tasked with protecting the fire essence to illuminate the darkness. Embark on an adventurous journey, selecting your favorite combinations from a variety of distinctive towers and create mazes using differently shaped ...

Release Date

Coming soon

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kindred sparrow
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oh hey it's the guy that does videos 👋

leaden jetty
fiery grotto
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I never get use to that pfp

abstract violet
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I have an important test tomorrow and im a little stressed out

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And not gonna lie i did procrastinate alot

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So wish me luck boys

verbal geyser
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Yayyy

verbal geyser
atomic arrow
soft lion
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Yugioh is unironically one of my passions

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I forgot to mention I might be the biggest yugioh nerd on the server

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Which is why I love the yugioh Jokers coming out rn

atomic arrow
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There was someone else who wrote YGO articles for a website

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@signal kiln

signal kiln
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I did yeh

soft lion
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LETS GO

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The J 🙂

soft lion
signal kiln
soft lion
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I'm working on a video essay for yugioh zexal

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Unironically the most underrated and best yugioh anime

soft lion
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Thank you

signal kiln
soft lion
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Sick

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interesting I've never heard of cube but it seems fun

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Pretty sick I get the gist of it

signal kiln
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Yeah it's awesome

soft lion
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I gotta try it

atomic arrow
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How does a YGO Cube work? In MTG at least you can make a functioning deck from cards of the same color

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Even if it’s not good outside of draft

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In YGO the archetypal restrictions seem more strict

soft lion
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You pick a theme to go based off of

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Like only warrior monsters or from one anime

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the zexal deck goes crazy

signal kiln
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Or you can

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Lemme get a link to one of my cubes

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So like, you can make a rank 4 strategy with a bunch of level 4s, an EARTH strategy with Giant Rat and Gaia Power, you can make a deck around disarding with Volcanic Shells, you can make a Chaos deck, etc

soft lion
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hell yeah

kindred sparrow
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my job interview went well, now to watch people play cards

soft lion
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Awesome

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I hope ya get the job

kindred sparrow
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Thank you!

kindred sparrow
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As much as I love doing nothing all day, I'd like to be able to afford rent for the winter

fiery grotto
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lol

atomic arrow
fiery grotto
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I heard that when penguins make igloos, it glues it together

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tell me if you get it

fiery grotto
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Balatro has ruined me, typed joker instead of joke

abstract violet
terse basalt
atomic arrow
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also try wolfram

terse basalt
atomic arrow
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Otherwise I would try SymPy

sullen portal
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wow. i haven't seen this since college

finite owl
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Look at these pictures I got of my cat yesterday

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What a gremlin

soft lion
split swallow
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Y’know, playing FF1, and playing in it’s combat system, I’ve learned it’s a great way to really immerse yourself in games where the developers simply hate you and everything you stand for in life.

soft lion
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Yeah, it happens.

fiery grotto
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I am sick, but its mainly just lots and lots of coughing

soft lion
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Aw man 😩

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Get well soon!

fiery grotto
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Nobody has pinged me yet this exists

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and leaving/rejoining discord doesnt make it go away

pulsar basalt
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i got a notif like that a couple times

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it was about discord nitro

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🙃

fiery grotto
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thats what Im assuming it is cause clicking it takes me to buy nitro

wispy grotto
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yea

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that ping notif pretty annoying

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got it 3 times in 6 months

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🙃

fiery grotto
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Im lucky to only be getting it now then LOL

steep cliff
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If you are in a lot of servers you are inevitably going to get a lot of pings so keeping track there is not worth it. I stopped a while ago

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I remember a friend of mine had like 3k pings ☠ Yikes

wispy grotto
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that's different

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these pinfs are attached to the discord icon on the top of the pc sidebar

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*pings

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they represent message requests / nitro promo

steep cliff
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Yeah, I just noticed the one he sent was for a specific server. Thought it was the general one.

hot thorn
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do not ask about what happened on the evening of Nov 15th, 2023

wispy grotto
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about what happened on the evening of Nov 15th, 2023? balatrojoker

hot thorn
wispy grotto
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oh cool

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good to know thanks

hot thorn
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(the joke is someone at roblox goofed/revolted and made the headless horseman bundle free)

wispy grotto
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i heard of that news

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people were freaking out in multiple roblox servers

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like wth free headless wha?

hot thorn
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meanwhile this one friendgroup server im in: "fuck it we ball"

wispy grotto
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đŸ€Ł

hot thorn
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most based thing i've seen one of em say

half moon
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you know you can disable notifications for things in servers

little sorrel
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i somehow have a 100% average in my math class rn

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i don't know how i did it

sullen portal
hidden notch
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đŸ„

atomic arrow
little sorrel
atomic arrow
fiery grotto
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LOL

steep cliff
verbal geyser
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What am i doing last year lol

atomic arrow
cedar basin
ashen granite
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@civic cosmos what do you use uMatrix for? my assumption was that it's not maintained

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(but I feel like it's a bit too much effort for most sites, unless the site is really sketchy like Fandom and most news websites)

civic cosmos
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I use uMatrix to be picky about what hosts come in and out , I use it for more than adblocker

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For example, I can choose not to run any of these scripts/cookies/etc which not only helps sites load faster but also helps protect from certain trackers and hostile elements

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Sometimes this means sites break on first load and I gotta take a couple seconds to configure
But its nice to have an extra layer

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though yeah honestly this has been working well enough for me that I didnt even notice it hasnt been updated in a couple years
Just been using it that long ig
For context I use uBlock in addition to uMatrix (and some other bits and bobs like Random User Agent)

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Looks like they're both from the same developer anyways lol. Maybe uBlock does this now. But my old woman ass doesn't feel like switching over and remaking all my configs

verbal geyser
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Level up dice

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too much light warning

atomic arrow
verbal geyser
atomic arrow
verbal geyser
verbal geyser
ashen granite
soft lion
ashen granite
civic cosmos
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Yeah I've been reading through the GitHub about it

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I like the granularity , I can turn off uMatrix if I can't be bothered to fine tune and still have uBlock to back me up. Plus I like uBlocks element zapper

placid rampartBOT
#
evkem.9691 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

civic cosmos
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oh. Can't say that. Well the seven seas be kind to filtration

soft lion
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arrgh

terse basalt
wispy grotto
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my ears ouch

ashen oasis
wispy grotto
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no

abstract violet
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very upset
i was going through a tutorial on overhauling fallout new vegas and one of the steps was to make a steam partition or something honestly i don't know, i went through every thing and it all worked fine and all, couple hours later i go to open balatro and steam opens saying i need to install it, turns out i need to re install Everything that was on that specific drive

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very stupid

abstract violet
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Disregard i was able to fix it, i went through steam settings and found the option that allows you too choose where it looks for all the gams files, then I deleted the the folders that messed everything up, everything seems back to normal

tawdry ore
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i decided to make an AI rewrite the text of undertale :)

Long ago, 2 races ruled over Earth: HUMANS and MONSTERS.
The monsters, not content with Earth's natural life - giving resources,
They began to destroy the Earth by sending poisonous gas and harmful rays to hurt the humans.
Humans were in great distress and the creatures knew they could not continue to occupy Earth.

Howdy! I'm Flowey! Flowey the Flower!
Hmmm...
I've never seen a fish like you before, human.
You should probably leave now.
Sorry if you were raised to respect us, but you need to go!
I wonder... how far can this flower go without becoming transparent?
I think I'm going to go find a way to stay here for awhile.

You IDIOT!
Wake up!
You'll get turned into a MONSTER!
DIE.

You talk to the dummy. Why?
And when did you last get a paycheck?
Not much more than a mop.

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save thing

(HP fully restored, but only 1 of them fought!)

wispy grotto
#

idk where to use bot commands so ill do it here as off topic

placid rampartBOT
wispy grotto
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welp

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i have no idea what creates the (assuming) level roles

tranquil knoll
red galleon
#

mee6 đŸ€ą

tawdry ore
#

Person: "If you can beat The Crumbling Tower of Pizza in under 4:15, i'll tell roblox to bring back OG-"
me af:

pulsar basalt
#

if i had a nickel for every time the entire fnaf movie was posted here i'd have 2 nickels

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@hollow merlin you might get in trouble for posting that, just to warn you

hollow merlin
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:(

pulsar basalt
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as someone who doesn't watch a lot of horror, i thought the fnaf movie was pretty decent

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and bonus points for being a video game movie that doesn't suck

neon mantle
hollow merlin
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:(

hot thorn
split swallow
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Average possum behavior

solid cipher
tawdry ore
wispy grotto
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no balatrojoker

hot thorn
wise gust
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really, you find it "cool" to send the same image in all servers

arctic robin
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Topology is goddamn ridiculous

If anyone wants to, tell me, how many holes do you think these things have

half moon
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1, 1, 23

ashen granite
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straw: ||one||
Mobius strip: ||because paper isn't infinitely thin, 1. if it was, 0||
shirt: ||three||

half moon
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yeah three makes more sense you are right

wise gust
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what are y'all talking about oh my GO

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WHY SHIRT HAS THREE HOLES

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am i high, or is it you

civic cosmos
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A straw has zero holes topologically

lime spire
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A straw is a long torus, and has one hole, it's definitely not zero

civic cosmos
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It's not a torus, it has no width
It's a plane

nimble whale
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I think it's 1, 1, 2

pulsar basalt
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I know the first two have 1 hole since they can both be reduced to donut

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something tells me the shirt also has 1 hole, just with 4 openings connecting it

half moon
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I don't think it works that way

sullen portal
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any topographical mathematicians in chat I think I may have literally failed that class

ashen granite
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a shirt is just a straw with two extra holes

nimble whale
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or 2 straws

half moon
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I am sorry to inform you but shirts, straws and paper do have width

lime spire
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3 holes in a shirt because one cut from top to bottom then one more cut for each sleeve to make it flat

visual sail
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cut the shirt down the middle and theres no more hole, problem solved

spare sierra
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Oh no

nimble whale
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lmao

spare sierra
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I knew it was only a matter of time until this came to the discord

half moon
lime spire
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if the sleeves were their own separate straw then it'd be 2 but because they connect to the torso 'straw' it's 3

visual sail
lime spire
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actually shirts have tons of holes because fabric is woven thonk

visual sail
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but fabric has holes because its made of atoms

lime spire
#

we're really drilling to the bottom of ontology here

nimble whale
pulsar basalt
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imagine rolling up the torso of the shirt until you reach the other 3 holes at the top, and doing the same with the sleeves

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you're left with a triple donut

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(I don't know if triple torus is correct terminology)

lime spire
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so you start with 3 lines (holes) |||
connect the top of each of the side lines to the middle line ┌╀┐
that's a t-shirt. 3 holes even those the '4 openings' are arranged like this ╁

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its not just a - line and a | line because they're connected

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but it's not 4 for the same reason as the straw isn't 2; the middle one is one hole

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think of the inside of each sleeve as being a 'hole' into the torso

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so it's like, 3 tubes

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so 3 holes

nimble whale
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I still don’t think it’s 3

leaden jetty
visual sail
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shirt is shirt and hole is hole (i rest my case)

spare sierra
visual sail
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already saw it (get sniped)

lime spire
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here is a little drawing to visually explain
you have 3 holes
you 'bend' two of the holes down to join the middle
the resulting shape (4 openings, a torso with two sleeves) is the shape of a t-shirt

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you didn't put one hole all the way 'through' the torso for both sleeves, you have to add two

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you can stretch the sleeves back into the torso and just have a cylinder with a hole on each side

leaden jetty
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3 holes. Simple.

nimble whale
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Fine I give up

lime spire
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topology can be silly and hard to explain don't worry about it

leaden jetty
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My partner HATES the phrase "A coffee mug and a (ring) doughnut are the same thing"

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refuses to believe it

lime spire
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the whole of the cup part is one piece (no hole); the handle has a hole for you to grab in; therefore if it were made of putty you could squish the cup part into a lump and you'd have a wonky donut but a donut nonetheless

lime spire
#

m

pulsar basalt
#

m

spare sierra
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m

fiery grotto
#

m

nimble whale
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now I just imagine a t shirt as a donut but with 2 extra holes drilled towards the center

lime spire
#

that's about right

terse basalt
visual sail
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n

wispy grotto
#

o

visual sail
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@fiery grotto whats your favorite pie slice

fiery grotto
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I dont eat pie

atomic arrow
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Maybe 3-torus

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I’m reminded when I checked the Wikipedia page for Pair of pants (mathematics) and they listed the wrong number of holes

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I wonder if it’s still wrong

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It’s still wrong

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Although they have an image with the correct number of holes below

pulsar basalt
#

rip

atomic arrow
#

There’s also this funny out-of-context image

atomic arrow
# nimble whale Fine I give up

Vsauce has a good video about the subject exploring the number of holes in the human body. In terms of language, there are two kinds of holes: a void that goes through an object, and recessions on the surface of an object. Mathematically, only the first object is a hole. As a consequence, a void going through an object is a single hole, not two, so there’s that additional semantic wrinkle.

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Hence a straw is a single hole. Topologically, you can start with a donut, then make it very tall to obtain a large straw, then shrink it proportionally to obtain a small straw. The donut has a single hole, and thus so does the straw.

On the other hand, as seen above, a mug and a donut are topologically the same. So a straw and a mug are also the same.

arctic robin
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Ah, I missed the talk

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Also, if anyone's still interested: Apparently, a way to figure out how many holes something has topologically is to find out how many times you can cut something in non-parallel ways.
Which means a straw and a donut have the same amount of holes, 1.
The T-Shirt has 3.

The möbius strip, on the other hand, has 2.

arctic robin
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The möbius strip part, or generally?

atomic arrow
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The cutting part

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Is it about homotopy groups

pulsar basalt
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i think that's equivalent to the number of times you can cut from one opening to another

arctic robin
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How many times can you cut an object, either from one opening to another, or all the way through itself, without it being cut into multiple pieces, is the amount of holes an object has

pulsar basalt
#

with each cut combining openings

atomic arrow
#

I’m trying to convert from that definition to one I know and failing

arctic robin
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I just took the thing Riemann found and applied it
Seems to work pretty well till now

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Except for the möbius strip, I still don't know how it having two holes is supposed to make sense

pulsar basalt
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the mobius strip is just a flattened torus

arctic robin
#

Like, I get that you can cut it in the above-mentioned fashion twice without it being cut into multiple pieces, but it's still weird

arctic robin
pulsar basalt
#

sure it can

arctic robin
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That also means you can make this into a torus by pumping it up

pulsar basalt
#

ye

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treat the center of the strip as the center of a circle

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then expand until reaching that circle

arctic robin
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Yea, the issue is, you can cut a normal flat ring once without cutting it into multiple pieces, but a möbius strip twice without cutting it into multiple pieces

Which would mean that they aren't topologically the same

pulsar basalt
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i think if you cut a torus but cut with a twist you get the same outcome

arctic robin
#

You mean, cutting the torus mostly along the long side, but at some point do a spinny thing along the short side?

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...hold on

pulsar basalt
#

i think that's correct

arctic robin
#

Oh wait, I got it now

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Ring ≈ flattened Torus
Möbius strip ≈ flattened hollow Torus

atomic arrow
arctic robin
#

non-oriented would refer to the möbius strip's property where going along one of its sides leads you to the other, or...?

atomic arrow
#

Do homeomorphisms preserve orientation? Or only diffeomorphisms? I think they don’t because I remember the YouTube video about turning the sphere inside out continuously

atomic arrow
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If you start growing hair from somewhere, in the Mobius strip you’ll come across the same point with hair going in different directions

atomic arrow
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For non-orientable surfaces that is

arctic robin
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Yea, considering how wacky non-orientable surfaces can be, I'd figure that topologists still wouldn't be sure of how to deal with quite a bit of their topological stuff

atomic arrow
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But thinking about it, where did you get your definition with cuts? It might just be wrong, or the cut you’re doing isn’t a true cut because of the non-orientability

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Thinking back, I think I only learned a definition of genus that required differentiability. It’s been a while and I struggled with that class. I know you can use homotopy classes but I didn’t study that definition

arctic robin
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Originally, I really just took the definition as I read it with between the holes
I just added the all the way through itself part because of the Möbius strip

Also, about how I found it, some time ago, I just searched up "topology counting holes" or something along the lines, and the first one I clicked said that the "how many times you can cut without cutting it apart" is from Riemann

atomic arrow
#

This reminds me that I drew a Joker wire a Mobius strip on it

hollow edge
#

how was thanksgiving everyone

neon mantle
hollow edge
terse basalt
tawdry ore
#

Sonic the Echidna

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and Sonic the Fox

tawdry ore
#

a GIF..
and a spritesheet!

atomic arrow
#

So it would be a cyclic example

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“To visualize x just picture x.”

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Also the surface normal wouldn’t be defined for a Möbius strip
 although I wonder how 3D modeling software cheats it

terse basalt
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If a Möbius strip doesn't look pitch black IRL then lighting works on it

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which means there must be a normal

atomic arrow
#

Also a Möbius strip IRL isn’t a surface

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It’s a solid

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So I believe it would be orientable

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Yeah I think a real life Möbius strip is just a torus

terse basalt
#

you have a normal

terse basalt
atomic arrow
terse basalt
#

you still need to specify a face

atomic arrow
#

It’s not continuous for Möbius strips

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Hence it’s non-orientable

terse basalt
terse basalt
atomic arrow
terse basalt
atomic arrow
terse basalt
atomic arrow
terse basalt
#

basically a bunch of sprites in a single image, used by programs to improve efficiency

atomic arrow
terse basalt
atomic arrow
terse basalt
#

In mathematics, particularly topology, an atlas is a concept used to describe a manifold. An atlas consists of individual charts that, roughly speaking, describe individual regions of the manifold. If the manifold is the surface of the Earth, then an atlas has its more common meaning. In general, the notion of atlas underlies the formal definiti...

terse basalt
atomic arrow
terse basalt
#

In computer graphics, a texture atlas (also called a spritesheet or an image sprite in 2d game development) is an image containing multiple smaller images, usually packed together to reduce overall dimensions. An atlas can consist of uniformly-sized images or images of varying dimensions. A sub-image is drawn using custom texture coordinates to ...

atomic arrow
terse basalt
atomic arrow
terse basalt
atomic arrow
#

Basically if you look at two maps of the Earth, one excluding the South Pole and the other excluding the North Pole, they need to agree everywhere else

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This means you need to look at one map, locate a point on the Earth’s surface, look at that point, the locate a point in the second map

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The same for your speed if you were moving through that point

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And naturally the same if you started from the second map, then Earth, then the first map

atomic arrow
#

@fiery grotto

fiery grotto
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XD

#

nice

atomic arrow
visual sail
#

day 1 of drawing random face expressions off of numbers

grand widget
#

Ooh, 6 could be like glasses

visual sail
tranquil knoll
#

11 gonna be realllll easy

1 _ 1

runic kiln
#

2_0

visual sail
#

okay stop you guys are going like 5 days into the future

fiery grotto
#

6-9

visual sail
#

go to sleep 😐

fiery grotto
#

Im in my bed

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You guys are so entertaining I vame back

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On my kindle

pulsar basalt
#

ok google

visual sail
#

the offenstivity (trust me its a real word, dont search it up)

runic kiln
pulsar basalt
#

"message that can crash discord for kindle"

runic kiln
#

although I haven’t used a kindle in years

fiery grotto
#

AShrugitisapaintotypeon

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Ahhhh

runic kiln
#

“it’s a pain to type on”?

fiery grotto
#

Shrug and then that

runic kiln
#

đŸ€·

fiery grotto
#

Yeah

runic kiln
#

good that discord has \đŸ€·

runic kiln
visual sail
#

i loe shurging

fiery grotto
#

Anyways I better sleep

runic kiln
#

I typed : shrug : with a backslash to escape it and it still changed it

visual sail
#

:shurg:

fiery grotto
#

I betterbetter, but will I?

visual sail
fiery grotto
#

Yeah

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I can see the same channels

solid cipher
runic kiln
atomic arrow
ashen oasis
atomic arrow
runic kiln
ashen oasis
runic kiln
atomic arrow
runic kiln
#

lol

ashen oasis
atomic arrow
#

What about positive infinity

runic kiln
#

(infinities aren’t numbers)

ashen oasis
ashen oasis
atomic arrow
atomic arrow
#

Although it is missing a few options

atomic arrow
#

lol the LaTeX failing to render

runic kiln
#

lol

#

good point though, in some mathematical systems they can be treated as numbers

atomic arrow
#

It’s the completion but a different kind of completion, since real numbers are the only complete totally-ordered field.

atomic arrow
#

Hence the chart

visual sail
atomic arrow
#

Also I think I’ve seen compactification but not compacture
 maybe I’m just misremembering the English term for it

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But that’s not what I meant

normal galleon
#

oh right it's called compactification

visual sail
fiery grotto
#

8 with the lil tongue

visual sail
#

tognue

leaden jetty
#

Woke up to having no electricity in my place. Fixed now, but what a mess that was

half moon
#

that's stinky, do you use electricity for heating?

leaden jetty
half moon
#

at least you didn't wake up to your place being freezing then 🙂

tawdry ore
#

its 8 am and yet

IM STILL AWAKE!

For litterally no reason,
Im still awake!
My sleep schedules destroyed, As I'm stuck in a void
Just trying to feel an ounce of joy!

burnt gust
#

Lay the fuck down in your sleeping place in the dark and sit there with your eyes closed

#

Your body will rest and will coax your mind to resting as well

visual sail
#

You should stop being depression

spice helm
#

Upgraded my entire audio setup for my pc room. Come to find FedEx lost one of the subwoofers. Ruins the entire plan I had for the room. I hate fedex

visual sail
atomic arrow
visual sail
#

what-

atomic arrow
visual sail
#

oh ty đŸ«Ą

ashen granite
#

Card animation in deckbuilding, including the holographic foil on Legendaries, inspired by Balatro

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👀

hot thorn
#

the gros michel moment

tawny helm
hot thorn
#

ah

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honestly

#

veri cool

ashen granite
#

the Balatro OST is also in the YouTube playlist

hot thorn
#

damn

tawdry ore
#

sonic fucking dies

leaden jetty
#

Steam Next fest 2024 is Feb 5th to Feb 12th, so that's good they don't overlap

spice helm
visual sail
verbal geyser
#

Can i post about food in Thailand?

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It kinda
Questionable food lol

leaden jetty
#

If it doesn't break the rules and it's in off topic you can, but if you're speaking negatively of the culture, may ask you to stop etc

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just be decent and use common sense basically

verbal geyser
#

(it also makes some Italian people angry lul)

#

Err
But why xD

verbal geyser
#

it include Japanese rice to make a sushi.....

ashen granite
#

I think that's moreso an innovation than anything

#

the crust is typically the most "boring" part of a pizza

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crusts stuffed with cheese seems to be common, at least here in Australia - both Domino's and Pizza Hut have them

verbal geyser
#

Lmao

ashen granite
#

I think "sushi crust" is not too far off of something like "cheeseburger crust"

verbal geyser
verbal geyser
#

Lol

ashen granite
#

there's a place that does sushi burgers here

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it's surprisingly good

ashen granite
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(they also have more traditional fish fillings, rather than burger fillings)

verbal geyser
#

That kinda hurt

too much hungry right now , i want to try it out lol

verbal geyser
#

xD

neon mantle
sullen portal
civic cosmos
#

Yeah these look very eat-able if that makes sense
The half wrap is a good grabbing point

atomic arrow
ashen granite
#

there's other burgers which use sushi ingredients

neon mantle
#

looks delicious

visual sail
verbal geyser
#

how about this thing.

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lol

atomic arrow
#

Sometime maybe I’ll bring images of cursed Brazilian pizza

visual sail
#

Only true gamers understand

tawdry ore
#

"because i've gamed to much, i've starved myself!"

weary bay
#

@arctic crystal

The line I use the most from that movie is "I have a doubt"

arctic crystal
#

was it the one where uhhh

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....ah nevermind, holy i almost forgot zorg's name EHWULIFEHWLI
it really has been a while since i've seen this movie

weary bay
#

I think it's uhhhh, the president says it when they're questioning whether or not to blow up the thing

arctic crystal
#

OH
right, this scene, yeah i remember

weary bay
#

Gary Oldman absolutely slays as
Jean-Baptiste
Emanuel
Zorg.

arctic crystal
#

zorg is incredible
some of his lines are genuinely WAY too funny in that movie

#

him yelling at the mercenaries about the crates is so good

weary bay
#

I like how he smiles as smooths out his hair after going off

kindred sparrow
#

I want a ZF-1

signal kiln
#

Server rules say to speak English only. Still, a lot of people post them thinking they're the norm of pizza on Brazil

atomic arrow
neon mantle
neon mantle
signal kiln
neon mantle
#

I would DESTROY that pizza. Huge onion fan

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Cheese is great, but with the right spices and toppings, I think it would still taste great

signal kiln
#

There's also chicken pizza as well, this one has a lot of cheese in it

neon mantle
#

the yellowish stuff on top: is that a type of cheese?

neon mantle
#

looks tasty. time to go make a boring salad for lunch 😩

signal kiln
#

đŸ«‚

atomic arrow
atomic arrow
signal kiln
#

Another option that cheeseless pizza opens up is the sweet pizza, like this chocolate pizza (spoiler tagged because you WILL get hungry)

signal kiln
signal kiln
#

Actual divine

neon mantle
#

I love pizza as a canvas for cool ideas. never got the pizza traditionalist take, personally. want pineapple pizza dipped in ranch? why not; enjoy whatever makes you happy

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with that said, my buddy got told off at a local hipster pizza joint for asking for ranch. they do be out there

signal kiln
atomic arrow
neon mantle
#

important to note on the story above: the pizza place did just win an award in naples, so they do lean into the traditional style

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(It is US based, not in Italy)

atomic arrow
#

I saw a rather over the top dessert pizza that looked more like a cake. There were different types of candy on different quarters, another one in the middle, and the border had mounds in it. I think one of the toppings was ice cream

signal kiln
atomic arrow
neon mantle
atomic arrow
#

It was very large

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You do have some places that sell giant pizzas

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Usually their pizza isn’t amazing but it’s affordable, especially if you do want to share a pizza among 8 or more people

verbal geyser
signal kiln
#

valid

verbal geyser
terse basalt
#

@spice helmI play games like Minecraft(not on Steam, but prolly 350+ hours)

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StS, 200+

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Baba is You

#

Factorio

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Raft

#

Kerbal Space Program

#

Mindustry

#

NMS

#

Besiege

fiery grotto
#

bro speakin my language

terse basalt
#

Opus Magnum

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Chants Of Sennar

fiery grotto
#

Ive seen like 6 of those games

terse basalt
#

Astroneer

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etc.

spice helm
#

I recognize factorio sts and minecraft thats it lol

terse basalt
#

A great mix across all genres

spice helm
#

i never played minecraft btw

terse basalt
#

Also can't forget DSP

fiery grotto
#

inscryption?

terse basalt
#

I play some American Truck Simular, The Escapists 2 and Stacklands too

#

Some Move Or Die

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Wingspan

spice helm
#

and all the games i listed are all modded to oblivion.

terse basalt
#

Root

#

Dome Keeper

fiery grotto
terse basalt
#

if we're not talking about the flash games I loved when I was 7

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Oh oh, forgot to mention Peglin

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Kingdom Two Crowns

spice helm
fiery grotto
#

PEGLIN!

terse basalt
#

Portal 1/2

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Cities Skylines

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Mini Metro