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[calm kestrel]

No no it's a completely different game

Of course

[stray vault]

Balatro is a deck builder wearing a poker skin

[calm kestrel]

My dude

3 people intensely disagree with that and have already disproven that as a collective

[sacred hatch]

a Deck builder with Poker elements, unlike most Deck builders

[stray vault]

Yes

This

This is what im trying to say

[calm kestrel]

"elements" is an understatement

Here

[stray vault]

See

That guy just fucking dismiss any points u made

No point in arguing honestly

[calm kestrel]

No no

They're right

[sacred hatch]

But the Poker is LITERALLY the core of the game, you play Poker hands to earn Chips and defeat Blinds

[calm kestrel]

Exactly

[stray vault]

And deck builder is also the core of the game

[calm kestrel]

This is why I say "elements" is an understatement

[sacred hatch]

Defeating Blinds

[stray vault]

And to defeat dont u build or fix ur cards?

[calm kestrel]

You're right

The game is still, built from the ground up, on poker

[stray vault]

Stop here my phone is dying

[calm kestrel]

Saying it isn't poker is like saying European pounds aren't real money because your currency exists

Or something

[sacred hatch]

Yes, to play Poker hands and score more with Jokers

[stray vault]

This is not even close to what we are arguing about

[calm kestrel]

It's just as base level of a comparison

As "game that's built to be poker with extra content is poker with extra content"

This isn't rocket science

[calm kestrel]

You should like

Probably plug that in

[sacred hatch]

♠️

[calm kestrel]

Spades are just hearts that have a stem

[forest carbon]

all jokers unlocked gng

[calm kestrel]

Unlock All: "Look at what they need to mimic a fraction of my power"

[forest carbon]

nuh

gng should i do it

[summer needle]

It is true tho

[summer needle]

What mod is that?

[forest carbon]

jokerdisplay if you are talking about the info below the jokers

[summer needle]

Ty

[forest carbon]

we lowk ballin from this point

new pb incoming

i copied dna on this hand

[stray vault]

Finally made it home

I hate riding the bus

😔

[rose oak]

First mime on Ante 20 lol

[forest carbon]

new pb gng 🔥 🔥 🔥

[steep raft]

OHHHH

Fuuuuuuuuuuck

[forest carbon]

gg (didnt draw the one red seal i just got)

[acoustic geode]

Why did you start copying non seal anyway

[last fossil]

It’s been over a month dude

Also I’ve come to realize that the plant sucks more than I thought because you’re gonna be wanting to upgrade face cards whether it’s a face card build or not. Flush? You’ll want your face cards of that suit or of any suit if you aren’t doing a suit specific run to do some things. Straight? You want to be playing high straights. Full house? You’ll want some face cards since there’s like 190000 jokers that give bonuses for face cards

The plant suck genuinely sucks man ☹️

[acoustic geode]

You don't want face cards actually

Plant is one of the weaker boss

[last fossil]

Also the plant just straight up kills Nan-inf runs

[acoustic geode]

Naneinf is not the main game

[last fossil]

Why

[acoustic geode]

Well face card synergies aren't really that good anyway

[last fossil]

There are so many jokers that give bonuses for face cards

They are really good high cards, anyways

[acoustic geode]

Most of the face synergies are on scoring

[last fossil]

Like the Ace is dog shit it has 2 jokers that give you bonuses for it lmao

[acoustic geode]

Which is

Not good

Since they are vulnerable o bosses

Like

[last fossil]

You’re trying to sit here and tell me you don’t want scoring in the game where you are supposed to score big scores

[last fossil]

Verdant leaf isn’t that bad for some synergies

[acoustic geode]

You want scoring from jokers that doesn't care about what you play

[last fossil]

Also I don’t want to play my entire deck around the chance of a boss

[acoustic geode]

+mult, +chips, and xmult

Which is why jokers like green joker and ride the bus are so good

They give mult no matter what you play

So they are pretty much immune to bosses

[last fossil]

Actually no, Ride the Bus doesn’t give you mult if you play a face card

So yes, it matters what you play

[acoustic geode]

You are never forced to play a face card

Also you can play face

You just don't want them scoring

So playing pairs + JQK is not a problem

[last fossil]

I mean it’s just good to have face cards stacked on to other synergies too

Full house synergy? Play some face cards and have a joker stacked on that awards that OR use tarot cards to upgrade those face cards

I don’t need to list every hand you grasp the concept

[acoustic geode]

I mean things like scary face is nice of course

[last fossil]

Scary face is outclassed quickly

[acoustic geode]

But generally you want to stay away from on scoring jokers

[last fossil]

That’s one of the “shit ig I’ll take it” jokers

[acoustic geode]

I mean i'd rather have scary than smiley

Chip sources are scarce

[cloud rain]

No actually I build my entire setup around scary face & if I don’t get it, I restart the run for a better seed

[rigid night]

I actually have an Orange Sticker on Scary Face

[cloud rain]

I know @steel tangle does the same

[last fossil]

Ya know what? That’s fair.

But I do believe you can have some that score for a specific card. And the best ones that do that are for faces

Or hands

[acoustic geode]

Well best hand is pair

Best rank is probably like

2s or 9s

[last fossil]

Personally haven’t ran a pair build

I was thinking shit like two pair

Or straights

Or full house

[acoustic geode]

Well the great thing about pairs is you can easily play them for all of your hands

So the planet is 4x as valuable

[last fossil]

Actually yeah full house is really good because you can activate pair jokers, two pair jokers, three of a kind jokers, and maybe some fourth one I’m forgetting

[acoustic geode]

Full house is pretty much outclassed by two pair

You either play the two pair or 3 of a kind instead of full house

[last fossil]

Ok

So

I hear you

But why??????

[cloud rain]

Full House jokers

[acoustic geode]

There's no full house jokers

[last fossil]

Is there a full house joker?

[acoustic geode]

Earth scales terribly

[last fossil]

There needs to be full house jokers

[acoustic geode]

You only get to play one of them each round most of the time

[cloud rain]

Full Houser:
If hand played in full house, +1 mult

[last fossil]

And that’s bad????????????

[cloud rain]

I know @steel tangle agrees with this suggestion

[acoustic geode]

It is

[last fossil]

That’s joker is my goat fr ❤️‍🩹

[acoustic geode]

It means you one shot or you die

[last fossil]

No?

[acoustic geode]

Which is wjy

Pairs is good

[last fossil]

Just play another full house

Lmao??

[last fossil]

I mean it’s not THAT simple

[acoustic geode]

It is hard to draw

[last fossil]

But I’ve never had a “you one shot or die” experience

It’s a little thing called deck fixing

[acoustic geode]

Well before blue stake it's not really felt

[acoustic geode]

With deck fixing you'd rather go for 4 of a kind

[last fossil]

Ok to be fair I’ve been running my full houses at school which the save file on the school computer is white stake

So I should probably try it on my like

Actual computer

With gold stake on some decks and shit

[mossy sorrel]

walkie talkie pre-deckfix full house carries

[idle salmon]

Peepee poopoo

[cloud rain]

Flush Fiver:
If hand played is Flush Five, +2 mult

took me a little while to come up with that one srry

[silent kestrel]

Balala

[sand thorn]

How to get a gf

[prisma idol]

If you figure it out please let me know

[prisma idol]

STEVEN TBOI?!

[sacred hatch]

Kids these days with their Balatro, back in my day, we had Bejeweled 3 Poker Mode

[sacred hatch]

That's the thing, you don't 😭

[prisma idol]

[prisma idol]

Ok, what if boyfriend instead

[sacred hatch]

The Mouth when they see unsupervised children

[sacred hatch]

Be autistic and infodump on them

[prisma idol]

Hell yea, I'm good at that

I got this in the bag 😎

But where do I find the boy in the first place

[sacred hatch]

Then put the fries in it 😭

[sacred hatch]

This is going in my collection

[prisma idol]

What 😭

I don't think that message is that exciting

[prisma idol]

[prisma idol]

[distant quarry]

My niece got me drawing da big ballerina

Lowkey fun

[visual basin]

can relate

[arctic otter]

Hi hi

[sacred hatch]

new joker idea trust

[vernal violet]

til that the king in the king of clubs (upright) does not face our left, facing slightly to our right instead

[glad oriole]

hey i have that one

woaw

[sacred hatch]

yo, how about tihs, retirggers your first three scoring cards and has a 1/33 chance to die

Ansault pear

[glad oriole]

i think the color scheme needs some tweaking

to fit in with valatro

[sacred hatch]

Yeah, this is just a concept... I am not an artist 😭

[glad oriole]

the art is fine

im just saying it doesnt fit balatro in terms of color

for example

balatro doesnt have "true blacks"

only dark blues and greens

[stray vault]

That's gonna be too weak

Retrigger 3 cards is not that strong tbh

Not worth the 1/3 chance of exploding

[sacred hatch]

I say it's decent as an early-game item

[sacred hatch]

I said 1/33

[glad oriole]

??? hangong chad retriggers one

[stray vault]

Chad retrig the first card twice

[glad oriole]

yeah

[stray vault]

Which makes it strong

Cuz photo exists

[glad oriole]

first 3 cards is alright

[stray vault]

🙂

[glad oriole]

chad is hood without photo

[stray vault]

Chad is decent

[sacred hatch]

Blawg , FUCKING CHAD EXISTS

[glad oriole]

more than decent

[glad oriole]

:3

[stray vault]

Chad doesnt explode

I think just give the joker retriggering 3 cards

Thats gonna be ok

Because its not broken to the point it needs exploding

[sacred hatch]

And don't forget that Stelzer also does mostly the same thing, except Ansault has a chance of exploding (like Michel) unlike Stelzer which dies after a certain amount of hands

[stray vault]

Selzer retrig 5 times

[glad oriole]

depends on how mamy cards you play gang

[stray vault]

Say u have an idol 5 times is 32

3 times only 8

Which is just chad level pairing with photo

[glad oriole]

idol rarely ever is that good

[glad oriole]

and no chad is worth 4X in that combo

[stray vault]

Of course i mean it in the context of them being maxxed out the value

[glad oriole]

thats pretty much an edge case for idol icl

[stray vault]

I include it with the best joker set up

[glad oriole]

what

[stray vault]

The ideal setup that makes them strong as scoring jokers

[glad oriole]

hows that related to my comment

[brave bluff]

balala.

[stray vault]

Because im talking about the ideal setup and u bringing up cases that are not ideal

Im just trying to make it clear on my part

[sacred hatch]

@stray vault if you think you're good at designing Jokers, make your own concept and show us

[sacred hatch]

True

[glad oriole]

i loterally didnt

[stray vault]

I dont think im good at making joker design

[glad oriole]

i said chad is worth 4x

the photo is 2x

total is 8x

[stray vault]

I just discussed the joker with u

[glad oriole]

im more or less on your side but i dont think this is a good argument

[stray vault]

Why are u offended when someone discussing something u made

?

[glad oriole]

someone doesnt bave to be good at something to criticize it

[sacred hatch]

I ain't offended, I just think you know what a good balanced joker does

[glad oriole]

like if you eat a food and its not good the chef wouldnt ask you to cook a better dish

[stray vault]

If u dont want ppl to comment just say it from the start "i dont accept opposition"

[sacred hatch]

I guess you're right

[glad oriole]

:3

[exotic sparrow]

I dont need to make music to criticize it

[stray vault]

One persone cant make the whole game balance

Someone gives a joker concept, others comment on it

And u can argue or agree with them

[sacred hatch]

That's fair

[forest carbon]

square joker so peak

[sacred hatch]

Fr

[glad oriole]

why 5/6 jokers

[forest carbon]

cus negative and didnt find anything good

[glad oriole]

L

chat should i hit up the latro before classes

[forest carbon]

ye

[fiery bobcat]

always 🔥

[glad oriole]

hunmm

maybe

[sacred hatch]

I fixed it

[forest carbon]

peak pair gaming

[stray vault]

😭

[forest carbon]

what do i take for trib

[glad oriole]

stop negative skipping!!!!

[glad oriole]

i'd go hallu

[forest carbon]

fym i took ecto

[forest carbon]

alr

[stray vault]

Yeah

I would take the left one

Halu also tempting

[glad oriole]

thats not very good either

but the cavendish was from a neg skip

!

[forest carbon]

nagativeskip peak always take

[stray vault]

True

Negative skip is goated

[glad oriole]

one of the worst skips icl

[rapid pond]

Negative skip cool

[glad oriole]

it tricks you into thinking itsvgood cuz negative is good

[forest carbon]

bcus its good

[glad oriole]

but getting a random ass negative joker is unhelpful 90% of the time

[rapid pond]

For Swashbuckler, Abstract, Temperance...

[glad oriole]

not worth skipping a blind for

skipping a blind is a big cost

[forest carbon]

but there is that one percent of useful jokers like cavendish

[rapid pond]

For Swashbuckler+Gift card, no

[glad oriole]

its just not worth the risk

[glad oriole]

okay so have this one specific joker combo and its good
i still disagree but its just a bad point anyway

[forest carbon]

we gamble🔥 🔥 🔥

[glad oriole]

bruh

i hate when people debate like this

[rapid pond]

Also, the aforementioned combo is game-breaking if you have 6 dupe tags (ex: Anaglyphic Deck)

[glad oriole]

it isnt game breaking

its flat mult

just a lot of it

[forest carbon]

alr gng i won stop yappin

[rapid pond]

Well +12 each round is decent

[stray vault]

Anaglyph definitely worth skipping for negative tags

[rapid pond]

And near-immunity to Crimson Heart and Verdant Leaf...

[stray vault]

For gold on jokers of couse

🤓

[glad oriole]

i'd still rather use the tags for money

[stray vault]

Thats more sane play

But like

Having many negative jokers is oddly satisfying

[glad oriole]

i think it is cluttersome

[rapid pond]

What's also fun is spending it on polychrome and making your entire joker tray rainbow

[glad oriole]

i would rather not have them but if i took the skip im gonna keep them for the temp value

[stray vault]

I dont like other effects than negative

[glad oriole]

that sounds awful, you'd have to replace your entire build with random jokers from the shop

you'd also bave to unlock bootstraps 😰

[rapid pond]

Anyways, time to grind gold stake black deck

Bye

[sacred hatch]

how about this, gains x0.25 Mults for every seal that triggers

[clever dome]

i like negative jokers

they give me a false sense of hope that I will win the next ante

then I inevitably fail

but thats for later

[stray vault]

What rarity is this

Uncommon?

I think 0.1x makes more sense cuz vampire only makes that amount upon removing enhancements

Im not sure

[sacred hatch]

Idk, from a Balance perspective, I guess Rare could do

[stray vault]

Makes more sense

[idle salmon]

In Saskatchewan rn keeping an eye out for localthunks in the wild

[swift latch]

I'd not count gold seals personally, since they can be retriggered

[quasi marlin]

I have idea
Crispiatro

CRK x Balatro
I will SOMEHOW put every cookie from CRK, and CROB into this game as a joker

Also hi first message sent in this server

[cloud rain]

thats crazy

so busted yo

[stray vault]

Red seal u mean?

Yeah red seal is gonna busted

[swift latch]

Red seal can't be retriggered

Since it is a retrigger

[stray vault]

Ah yeah

Blue seal also retrigger

[swift latch]

Oh yea

[stray vault]

No red seal can actually retrigger to

[granite urchin]

If u get enough purple seals this scales 1.25 per discard

[stray vault]

U retrigger a red seal u gonna have an extra time triggering

[granite urchin]

Very specific situation but it would be crazy

[stray vault]

Yeah id figure it would be even scaling faster than obelisk

[stray vault]

Nvm this sounds stupid

[sacred hatch]

Crazy ikr

[tribal knoll]

free gold stickers on anaglyph

granted u got ur build

only works early on though

if u have like 100 or 110 stickers already its hella ass

[glad oriole]

thas a different story tho

im talking just beating the game

not c++inf

[tribal knoll]

ah ye its ass

idk i just read "one of the worst skips"

[glad oriole]

if i go for c++ ngl im jus gonna play zodiac deck or sumn

i wanna have fun

not play optimally

[tribal knoll]

you definitely dont want to skip for negative if ur looking for a8

[tribal knoll]

anaglyph deck my goat

i love that deck + the checkered

lovetgetting like $200 on a skip tag

[glad oriole]

negative skip fans when they miss an entire round worth of value for a rental delgrat

[glad oriole]

fair fair

[stray vault]

Skipping for negatives is also fun

Idk

[tribal knoll]

its a gamble

i mean

i never do it otside of anagylph

1 shop is on avg way more value

[glad oriole]

i dont undeestand why people say its fun
is disappointment fun to you

[stray vault]

I enjoy see a bunch of negatives

[tribal knoll]

and its unfun getting negative dogshit

negative seance 🙀

[stray vault]

Yeah same for me

[glad oriole]

personally i think playing the game is fin

and skipping means you play the game less

[stray vault]

People have preferences

[glad oriole]

notice the "personally"

[stray vault]

Actually not bad

[glad oriole]

thought tbf i used to glaze skips like vrazy

[stray vault]

I kinda want to play around seance for once

[glad oriole]

then i watched one drspectred video

[stray vault]

Well

[glad oriole]

the tag tierlist vid

changed ny whole view

[stray vault]

Negative is bad

Like

Its common sense to see why its bad

Cuz u dont know what will u get

I actually saw someone skip the whole ante

Cuz the first round has a rare tag

Next round has a negativr

[glad oriole]

even if its something good its still probable that it has rental or perishavle

[stray vault]

😹

[glad oriole]

amazing

[sacred hatch]

Any of y'all got more Joker ideas

[stray vault]

Sometimes playing like that is fun

[tawny pasture]

i mentioned how taking negative tags arent a good idea in a short and had hundreds of people tell me i was dumb lol

[tribal knoll]

knight joker; adds a random steel card to deck every round

[tribal knoll]

its definitely not a good idea

an investment tag esp early on is much better

[stray vault]

Agree

[compact stump]

25 early bucks can change a whole run

[tawny pasture]

most of those commenters most feared boss is the plant so i didnt take it to heart

[stray vault]

Hook and fish is more annoying tbf

[compact stump]

roasting 70% of the community with that lmao

[tribal knoll]

what wwas the fish again

[tawny pasture]

🤷‍♂️

[stray vault]

Cards are faced down iirc

Correct me if im wrong

[tawny pasture]

cards drawn face down after hand played

[compact stump]

Hook is really annoying IMO

[tribal knoll]

hook is rough on flush builds

[stray vault]

Especially on early antes when u dont have any scoring jokers and u need 3 flushes to win

[tawny pasture]

flint, eye, wall are most annoying for me

[compact stump]

wall is most of the times safe but if you are not ready for a x4 it can kill some good runs

[tribal knoll]

if i see the wall normally ill try to find steel or glass cards

but the eye is indeed tough sometimes

[granite urchin]

Hook killed this run i had earlier but ngl it was not long for this world so im not mad at hook for that

[stray vault]

I think people who play scaling jokers without early xmult fear this the most

[tawny pasture]

i count the wall and the vessel as the same thing, but im mostly referring tot he vessel

[glad oriole]

well i'd imaggine most of the community is fairly casual

[compact stump]

water can be annoying in gs too

[granite urchin]

Vessel scary

[stray vault]

What does it do

[compact stump]

no discards

[glad oriole]

nothing wrong eith playing casually either

[granite urchin]

True

I feel like there is this sentiment in the community that if ur not playing optimally ur not playing the game but like learning and getting better at my own speed was what made me love the game

[tribal knoll]

what is wrong is not being enoughly informed of something and before investigating you start misinforming

[granite urchin]

Truth nuke

Balatro tends to make people very opinionated

[glad oriole]

happens to me

[tawny pasture]

playing casually doesnt give people an excuse to call someone dumb. but maybe thats a hot take.

[glad oriole]

thatsvtrue

[granite urchin]

No thats a very cold take

Its strange i feel like it happens the most in balatro

[glad oriole]

and if someone calls you dumb you have all the rught to explain to them why theyre wrong (and dumb)

[granite urchin]

Like casual sts players usually stfu when someone better than them says anything

[tawny pasture]

nah its just the internet in general. roguelikes are particularly prone to those kind of attitudes.

[glad oriole]

yeaah

[stray vault]

Id not reply them anyway

[tawny pasture]

slay the spire, isaac, you name it are all like that.

[stray vault]

People who insult u out of a video game

[granite urchin]

Truke

[glad oriole]

in another server i praised the ludovico technique because i love using it and i got shit on

[granite urchin]

Me the other day w seance smh

[sacred hatch]

Too OP ngl

-# even though Midas does that

[tawny pasture]

i had someone once swear up and down that i was hacking the game because a soul spawned a negative perkeo and trib. And that it was impossible to have negative legendary cards or any editions on them because "they checked the game files". And had dozens of people telling them they were wrong because its a very popular seed they could try themselves. They refused to believe it. I was rolling lol

[tribal knoll]

even as a rare?

[sacred hatch]

Yep, Parkeo doesn't come close

[compact stump]

steel joker would be crazy w that

[tribal knoll]

random numbered random ranked random suited

err

random ranked

[tribal knoll]

lmfaooooo

[compact stump]

crazy

[solid timber]

Wdym, he literally checked the game files you were obviously hacking

[tawny pasture]

yeah i know i was hoping no one would notice

[glad oriole]

its so funny what people will say instead of just admitting ti being wrong

[granite urchin]

I have irls that still autobuy rental baron shop 1 and as long as they dont try and coach me i dont say anything

[glad oriole]

im annoyign and would say erm thats not a good move

i do thatvsometimes when watching friends stream balalo

[stray vault]

I mean like as long as u don't insult them

I think its fine

[glad oriole]

theyvdont think im good atvthe game

cuz im a dumb boiy

[stray vault]

Just dont be condescending

[glad oriole]

i try not to

dude my computer fan sounds like a chainsaw engine

i think its hitting something

[granite urchin]

Balatro too intense for the pc

[glad oriole]

i aint even doing anything on it qwq

[stray vault]

Its time to change to a new laptop

🤓

[glad oriole]

probably not

i just need to fix the fan

[stray vault]

Its yelling

[granite urchin]

If someone is streaming u balatro ur allowed to suggest things they asking for it

Unless its a twitch stream

Only friendly discord streams

[stray vault]

Tbf you should check the temp first

Maybe the paste worn out

Or bios problem

[glad oriole]

thats what i meant by stream

lel

[granite urchin]

I figured lol

Lowkey i wish this server had vcs so that people could do runs and other people could join and coach them nd stuff

I got coached to be better by playing the same seed as doc every day for like 2 months thraight

[compact stump]

mods said that modding the VCs would be a lot of work for em

thats the main reason

[granite urchin]

True yea

[stray vault]

Man that sounds

Awful to me

[granite urchin]

It was fun

I love watching doc hes like my favorite youtuber ever

[stray vault]

Doc is cool

He is a doctor irl tho

Massive respect

[granite urchin]

I like his voice and how he explains things and i was very bored and borderline hikikomori at the time

[stray vault]

Meanwhile im just a casual player in balatro

🥲

I want to get a phd in comp sci

[granite urchin]

Thats cool

[stray vault]

But

My research skill is so shit

[granite urchin]

Change ur name tho

[stray vault]

I ruined everything

[stray vault]

No

I still dispise ride the bus

[tribal knoll]

what

ride the bus is like

[granite urchin]

This conflict was bound to transpire

[tribal knoll]

a free win on pair builds granted u got a chips source

[stray vault]

More like ride the piss

I hate ride the piss

I also hate riding the bus

It applies to both in-game and irl

[novel jewel]

I have the multiplayer file but I cant put it in my balatro thats the only issue

[compact stump]

Windows+R write %appdata% look for balatro nd you should have a mod folder in there

just pu the MP file in

[gleaming isle]

ive had this banana since ante 1or2

[acoustic geode]

Hope it survives

[stray vault]

He is on phones

[compact stump]

owww

then idk

[stray vault]

Good thing u are gonna have gold sticker on it

[compact stump]

watch it go extinct in ante 8 boss

[stray vault]

Bad thing it can explode at the last round

[lost vector]

Gross Michelle is goated

[gleaming isle]

nope popped on the last fucking blind

still 4 new gold stickers isnt bad

[tribal knoll]

lmfao

gros michel seems like a nightmare to gold sticker

has to be perishable p much

[gleaming isle]

eh if id have skipped the blind id have been okay

i should have but i didnt think

esp with the cryptid guaranteed 4oak

[candid kernel]

well it doesn't get the sticker if it pops on the last blind

[chrome abyss]

On mobile, got my first legendry, and when I tried to reposition it, I sold it. I feel empty now.

How do I reset like on PC to get the skip tags tho?

[cold bane]

[brave bluff]

jimb-oh!

[icy patrol]

my brother says skip blinds's wrong

[sacred hatch]

Depends

[stone turtle]

Chat how to get gros Cavendish?

[glad oriole]

hes rught

[glad oriole]

whats a gros cavendish

[stray vault]

Gros micheal and cavendish having incest relationship and give birth to gros cavendish

[glad oriole]

i

[spark acorn]

[shadow leaf]

Balala

[sacred hatch]

Mah Trans girl

[spark acorn]

Maddy :3

I wish I wasn't 189 berries in goldens are such a chore but everything else is done

[sacred hatch]

We all love Maddo

[spark acorn]

If only I had pc I could try some mods out

[sacred hatch]

Balitro or Balltro

[spark acorn]

Ballertro

[shadow leaf]

Balala

[rigid dove]

Balt O

[spark acorn]

Balulu

[sacred hatch]

Balali

[shadow leaf]

[rigid dove]

Badabo

[shadow leaf]

Gabagool

[sacred hatch]

FPE in the big '26

[spark acorn]

What deck should I climb to gold on next I got plasma ghost abandoned and checkered done

[sacred hatch]

I had a stroke reading that

[rigid dove]

Skill issue

[spark acorn]

I feel lazy punctuation is lame :3

Except when it makes cute face

[rigid dove]

Id pick black deck to get it out of þe way

[spark acorn]

I hate that you make a good point

[sacred hatch]

There's a difference between "I love high school, girls" and "I love high school girls"

[spark acorn]

I love black deck on paper but I know gold stake is gonna be awful to get

[spark acorn]

See but you're mom

[rigid dove]

'Grandmas in a coma' type sentence

[spark acorn]

XDD

I suppose I can try black and see if it's too insufferable for me

do I investment tag

hmmmm

I mean if it doesn't work I just try again

We ball

Aaand new run lmao

[wanton steeple]

baseball huh?

baseball huh 2

[stray vault]

I think u should run a 5 baseball run

🤓

Would be based if u do that

[sturdy gyro]

Baseball Card is a curious Joker to me. I can see it being good but at the same time I can’t make use of it effectively as I feel I could have

[stray vault]

My first run that scores over 1M score was with baseball

And i was on black deck so baseball scales better

[sturdy gyro]

Now remembering I had a Bloodstone build with Baseball in recent memory.

[stray vault]

On black deck i believe baseball is a must take

Unless it is perished

[sturdy gyro]

Low level stake but it was great addition to the build

[stray vault]

Or u dont have more than 2 uncommon jokers while having the slots filled with eternal jokers

[hybrid kettle]

You just lost the game

[wanton steeple]

and of fucking course the run killer is the plant

love a boss where u get no counters :D

[tribal knoll]

did u not have steel or glass

[wanton steeple]

no

[tribal knoll]

unlucky or u didnt try to find it?

[wanton steeple]

no glass tarots no rerolls or luchador

Just plant saying fuck u for having fun

[tribal knoll]

ive died to the plant very few times on face card builds

i guess you can get unlucky enough

[wanton steeple]

that's what the plant is for

[lost vector]

This was mine just now

[wanton steeple]

but sadly majorty of the game pushes u towards face card builds

[ripe wraith]

photochad just too strong

[craggy mica]

Is the smiley face or pareidolia going

[torpid elm]

yo guys any tips to get past ante 11??

[stray vault]

Play baron or retrigger build

[torpid elm]

in white stakes i always reach it, and in green stakes i get to ante 9

[torpid elm]

like this??

[stray vault]

Kinda

Needs to upgrade your hand to

[torpid elm]

yeah, i like two pair a lot

got it to lvl 9 i think

should i replace the scary face and use the blueprint with cavendish??

or ballot

[wanton steeple]

and plant kills another run

[craggy mica]

I hate you chicot

[wanton steeple]

plant is just not a fun mid game boss

[stray vault]

If u get another retirfger replace scary face

[torpid elm]

yeah i hate plant

[stray vault]

How much chips does two pair give u btw

Im not familar with it

[torpid elm]

lemme check

[stray vault]

Yeah then replace scary face

[torpid elm]

okok

[stray vault]

Scary face does less than an x2

[torpid elm]

okkk

should i pair blue print with hanging chad or the photo??

[stray vault]

Photo

Copying photo gives an x8

While copying chad gives and x2

X4

[torpid elm]

okkk

omg dude

its op

now i just need negative jokers

[neon wren]

it's white stake, you only need 8M score

[twilit storm]

Balatro Balatrito

[torpid elm]

uhhh

yeah i suck at this game even tho i got about 40hrs

[craggy mica]

I don’t have all face cards yet, but do I just sell the pareidolia now?

[desert wadi]

Definitely for oops

[unreal stag]

hello my addicted fellow gamblers

of the discord realm

[lost vector]

Any scoring Legendary joker can get you past ante 11 I think

[torpid elm]

well how do i consistently get legendary jokers??? I barely get those. i think i got a legendary joker only twice

[magic dome]

Pure luck

[lost vector]

Ghost deck is the deck for Legendary Jokers

[magic dome]

I dont think so

[lost vector]

This was my first Ghost Deck run

[magic dome]

Its the same probabilitie

[lost vector]

And I got a legend

[lost vector]

Ghost deck has more spectre cards and packs I believe

[magic dome]

No

[lost vector]

Glass cards and red seals also help alot

[craggy mica]

rip what do I even drop

[tulip reef]

oops all 6s or sock and buskin

not sure which one though, or if you should drop anything at all

[craggy mica]

Oh I’m definitely not dropping sock

Maybe oops but it sucks to get lucky activations

Idk if I even take

[lusty hemlock]

is there a balatro vc or is it only text channels

[tulip reef]

if you're going for a high score i'd take the soul, but if you just want to pass ante 8, i would leave it be

[craggy mica]

alright wish me luck

it’s yorick idk if I even care

[tulip reef]

did you delete oops?

[craggy mica]

Yeah

Whatever it’s 1 in 5 anyways

[prisma idol]

Well, yes?
That's ghost decks entire gimmick, spectral appear more often and spectral cards appear in the shop

[tulip reef]

can someone ping me real quick?

[prisma idol]

@thin crag

Wait

Oops

Wrong person

So sorry whoever this is

@tulip reef

[torpid elm]

https://youtu.be/wfBecdrsNLw

[craggy mica]

This is why john balatro wanted us to take wee joker and hack

Just sold yorick for a dusk rip

[thin crag]

Lol you okay

[dire tiger]

What do you recommend I do, I think I will lose😭😭😭(By the way, I don't speak English, I'm just using Google Translate.)

[weak tangle]

random thought but why does brainstorm lowkey feel really negative and blueprint feels really polychrome anybody else agree

like natural negative brainstorm makes so much more sense than natural negative blueprint

for no reason

[weak tangle]

show deck

[dire tiger]

I'm sorry but I don't know what you mean

[weak tangle]

show the cards you havent drawn

[tropic herald]

a

[weak tangle]

play all the cards that are not face cards and then blueprint the trio and brainstorm abstract

hope you draw three of a kind jacks or queens

[dire tiger]

No puede ser😞😞

[tropic herald]

que fue

[dire tiger]

Le preguntaré a chatgpt que debo hacer

[outer basalt]

Cannot make this up bruh

Unseeded I thought sure fire first naneinf run

[fervent rock]

what boss blind did you reroll out of

[outer basalt]

Serpent bc I wanted to save it for when I had burg

[fervent rock]

pretty sure that's not how it works

maybe i'm wrong

[outer basalt]

You can't repeat until you've played or skipped every boss

[fervent rock]

but i think if you reroll it still counts as having seen it(?)

[outer basalt]

It was probably the wrong move but I had already played the plant early so I didn't think I had done every blind

[fervent rock]

ahhh got it

[native dust]

you never found infinite reroll?

[outer basalt]

Nope

Crazy random seed tho

[native dust]

true

well now you know: always save the boss reroll for when you need it!

[quartz stag]

Remember me, balatro 1.1 tomorrow

arguments: none

[vague bolt]

hey chat

i just got balatro on steam and i just won my first game in the tutorial

it's not that hard as people say

[compact stump]

thats a good build

[vague bolt]

how did you know the build

[compact stump]

i see the jokers

odd todd, jolly (?), DNA, BBC, ancient and hologram

[vague bolt]

wow

yes correct

you are a big fan then

but idk i didn't feel much fun playing idk why

[compact stump]

it aint that much theres people here that still surprise me

[compact stump]

its your first run, give it some time

game has A LOT of content

[vague bolt]

ok actually just kidding

[compact stump]

oh ok lol

[vague bolt]

what i actually mean is i used to play this game pirated on my mobile and i almost got all the jokers if not actually all of them and im coming back to the game but actually buying it and for some reason it's not fun

i was pranking you...

that's not my actual actual first run

[compact stump]

ohhhh

i was kinda thinking that cuz getting DNA and holo in the same run seems both lucky and crazy but u got me ngl

[vague bolt]

yeah but actuallty this is my first run in the game you can see the seed😭

[compact stump]

yh i did see that lol

[graceful drift]

Risked my life for

Eternal Obelisk

I'm going crazy

[icy patrol]

going to hell...-

[graceful drift]

I'll never get out of orange stake

I've been trying to win since

Idk, a week ago bro

I play EVERY SINGLE day

In class, at home, when I'm waiting in line at the supermarket

And still I don't win

BIG skill issue

[formal merlin]

"here, win"

[graceful drift]

I'm not going to play with OBELISK

[formal merlin]

well there's your problem

obelisk is one of the best xmults in the game

[graceful drift]

Are you sure is that good?

All my friends say it's shit

[formal merlin]

yeah

[graceful drift]

So I just assumed it is

[formal merlin]

a lot of people see the word "reset" and assume it's shit without ever trying it

in reality it usually gets up to 5~7x pretty easily, especially when you get it early

[strange zinc]

one of the most normal erratic decks i haver seen

[tribal knoll]

jonklers? who needs em?

honestly this challenge wasnt that hard

[icy patrol]

the obelisk is underrated, but I don't like it, I always play Flush or Full House

[icy patrol]

WOW

[icy patrol]

aura

[clever narwhal]

Oh Mr thunk, I pray that you must put Balatro on sale for 60% off🙏🙏

[calm kestrel]

I wouldn't go thaaat far

[boreal niche]

Purely by numbers, it is

x2.4 mult per ante is faster than both yorick and madness

Hard to use for new players and new players are disincentivized from using it

[static mango]

Just had the run of a lifetime, plasma deck, blueprint with the two jokers that increase X mult on using planet cards and adding cards to your deck, along with my first ever legendary card that gave 2x Mult for each king and queen (the cards I had been adding to my deck). Best hand gave around 3 bil chips (most I ever gotten)

[boreal niche]

and first impressions are everything

But obelisk is unbelievably strong still

[static mango]

Lowk never pick it up but that's probably either because I'm dumb or new 🥹 ✌️

[boreal niche]

It's a good joker

Really really strong

[static mango]

Lowk I feel like misprint is far too unrepresented by how goated it is. Idk if it's pure RNG or has an actual system but it lowk always be giving like 20 Mult, great for early game

[boreal niche]

misprint is seed based

[static mango]

I have learned something new

[lament tapir]

what a good run dude

[gleaming isle]

Nah got it this run. The only joker i didnt have gold stickered herer were Holo lol

Raised Fist, Burning Joker (sold for another sticker) and Blue seals carried the fuck outta this run

[static mango]

Way to make another man's run feel inadequate God damn 😭 ✌️

[lament tapir]

LMAO

[lament tapir]

@teal parrot :DD

[teal parrot]

HOLY MOLY GUACAMOLE

[lament tapir]

hehehe yeah

[teal parrot]

it's so peak 🥹

[lament tapir]

hehehe yeah

[teal parrot]

hehehe yeah

[vague bolt]

This is crazy

Mario and Luigi wth

[calm kestrel]

By the numbers yeah but it also encourages being pretty unfocused which isn't really ideal

It's still a strong joker because of what it offers but it does have its downsides

[tranquil sparrow]

Recently completed gold stake black deck, thankfully

It was not as terrible as I thought it was but definitely more challenging than other decks so far imo

[calm kestrel]

Now do it Jokerless

[boreal niche]

Well not really

step 1 is get scaling unconditional scoring

[tranquil sparrow]

Is there an achievement for doing it jokerless ingame? I think I've seen something similar online so I assume there's some form of reward for doing so?

[boreal niche]

+mult and typically +chips

then just play a lot of a specific hand in particular

14 pairs, 14 two pairs, 14 flushes

14 is the magic number

after that you can very freely pivot towards obelisk

[desert wadi]

just beat orange stake ghost deck

[calm kestrel]

Aka all of this set up to even vegin using

Inability to use planets

[boreal niche]

Not really inability

[vague bolt]

Guys why people don't care about credits

[boreal niche]

also if you think about it a typical pair run already plays towards obelisk

[calm kestrel]

They have waaay less value

[boreal niche]

because you're playing lots of pairs anyway

Spare trousers in particular has insane synergy with obelisk

[vague bolt]

Btw did you guys see my win

[calm kestrel]

The fact of the matter is it's a ton of set up and means you can't build into anything

[boreal niche]

because you can still play full house and flush house if you want to scale it

[calm kestrel]

It's a strong effect still

[boreal niche]

not really a ton of setup

14 pairs is something you can reach by like ante 3

what obelisk needs is scaling unconditional scoring, which you likely already have

bus and red card are good

and worth mentioning are +chips jokers like square and castle

[calm kestrel]

Red card isn't great

I prefer trousers, bus, and Grimbo

[boreal niche]

those are good too

[calm kestrel]

Red card is terrible for your economy

[boreal niche]

what matters is that obelisk isn't that hard

at least once you understand how to effectively play towards it

[boreal niche]

Ideally you open every pack anyway

you don't have to, though

[calm kestrel]

Ideally you get interest

So you can buy more

[boreal niche]

yes and with your interest and extra money you open packs and reroll

i'm not saying to prioritize opening packs

[calm kestrel]

Which Red Card doesn't incentivise

[boreal niche]

i'm saying you open packs when you can anyway

red card just makes it so bad packs always have value

[calm kestrel]

Red card also encourages overspending

[boreal niche]

if you open an arcana pack and it's lovers/star/world then that's pretty mid

[calm kestrel]

Which might kill you due to lack of econ

[boreal niche]

but with red card at least that's +3 mult

[boreal niche]

only without smart play

with smart play it's fine

and again you would normally have an econ joker

[calm kestrel]

Okay so I'ma die because I didn't get enough mult

Because I was trying to play smart

[boreal niche]

you only ever need 20 to 30 mult from a +mult joker

[calm kestrel]

Aka a lot of money

[boreal niche]

it depends if you have secondary scoring from chips or mercury or a xmult joker etc

[boreal niche]

you're opening packs

likely you'll find a hermit or temperance

[calm kestrel]

Bus is better, pants is better, Grimbo is better, supernova is better

[boreal niche]

judgement into a to do list or something

[calm kestrel]

Red card is simply okay at best

[boreal niche]

immolate gold seal

[boreal niche]

i wouldn't say so

but i suppose there's no convincing you

Back to obelisk

it's hard to wrap your head around

[calm kestrel]

Not really

[boreal niche]

but the reason people like it is because pairs are good

[boreal niche]

pairs are already the dominant strategy bc of consistency and ease of use

obelisk just fits well into the fold because you can pivot out of pairs into obelisk incredibly easily

1.1 will probably make straights on par with pairs so we get to play something else

[tribal knoll]

just did golden needle too

[boreal niche]

In the meantime though pairs are good

worth mentioning is square joker

+16 chips per round is more than mercury

[tribal knoll]

i love you sm bloodstone

[boreal niche]

ergo it's a good joker

it has a good place within the scaling +chips jokers

[calm kestrel]

An extra discard doesn't actually change much

What matters is scaling and joker support since they have a natural downside of -5 handsize

[boreal niche]

all of them have a niche i'd say

[calm kestrel]

Aaaand pairs can use discards more effectively

[boreal niche]

have you tried flower pot with straights that shit is fun as fuck

it's the order but you can use baseball with it

[calm kestrel]

Flower pot is kinda just worse seeing double

[ember root]

Flower Pot is cool as fuck but it not working with debuffed wild cards pisses me off

[calm kestrel]

Why would it work with debuffed cards in the first place

[boreal niche]

square is consistent
runner has good value for how common it is
castle scales with discards and is uncommon
bull directly converts econ to scoring and is uncommon
wee has the highest ceiling and is generally the fastest

[calm kestrel]

It's checking for suits

[ember root]

I mean as in it's currently glitched, a debuffed wild card doesn't count as any suit at all for Flower Pot

Not even the card's base suit

[calm kestrel]

I honestly think Flowerpot should be a chips joker that has a different effect for 3 suits scored vs 4

[ember root]

Very unnecesary ''nerf'' (not intended) for an already flimsy Joker that could arguably make wild cards do idk something

[boreal niche]

A great rework people say is x1 mult for every different suit in the played hand

[calm kestrel]

That's how all cards work when debuffed

They have no suit

[boreal niche]

aka x1 if all one suit; x2 for two, x3 for three, x4 for four

Might need a numbers tweak

[ember root]

I'm going to check the Balatro Wiki I'll be back in a bit to say if this is correct or not

[boreal niche]

debuffed spades and clubs count as spades and clubs for blackboard

[ember root]

Actually I don't even need to do that

[calm kestrel]

On scoring jokers can't read debuffed cards

[ember root]

Flower Pot checks the base suit for regular debuffed cards

There's no reason it shouldn't check the base suit on a debuffed wild card as well

[boreal niche]

fpot isn't on-scored though

[calm kestrel]

I mean that's the risk of making wild cards I guess

[boreal niche]

wuHHAHAHAHHAHAHAA HAHAHAHAHHAHH

[ember root]

Very unnecesary risk I don't think you should be punished for that

[calm kestrel]

Would like to see some actual wild jokers tho the enhancement doesn't do much for almost anything

[ember root]

Wild cards are already bad as they are, but they would have a legit niche with Flower Pot, as wild cards biggest weakness is suit debuff bosses

[calm kestrel]

Logically it makes sense for them to have that downside tho

[boreal niche]

Fucking riff raff photochad where's that fortnite golden scar image from last year

[ember root]

The niche would be having wild cards work as any suit on any other boss and round, and when it gets debuffed you still have the base suit

[calm kestrel]

They just don't have the upside to make them worth while

[ember root]

So then having no base suit at all on a debuffed wild card is ???

[calm kestrel]

I don't think it should work that way

A wildcard is every suit

If a suit is debuffed it has a debuffed suit

[ember root]

Ok so it's just semantics now

Fair enough

Agree to disagree

[calm kestrel]

I agree they need more upsides

[minor badge]

Why exactly should an enhancement need some crippling downside attached...

[calm kestrel]

But their downside makes sense

[calm kestrel]

It's a logical downside based on how the cards work

It just needs more upsides

To make it worth it

[ember root]

For reference I'm talking about debuffed wild card's interaction with Flower Pot specifically

[calm kestrel]

Their base suit is all suits

Technically

Least that's how it's written rn

I'm not saying in their current state it's a good downside I'm just saying

Due to how they're written

It makes perfect sense and they should get support for them to validate them more

And make that downside make more sense at least

[minor badge]

Fact of the matter is as has been said if debuffed cards work with blackboard, and work with flower pot if they're not wild, there is no reason for debuffed wild cards to not work with flower pot on a logical level as clearly the debuff is not supposed to figure into deciding which suit has been played

[calm kestrel]

Blackboard makes sense?

[ember root]

I'm not trying to engage in bad faith but it really seems like you just keep refering to wild cards downsides in general when I'm really only concerned about their interaction with Flower Pot and only Flower Pot right now

[calm kestrel]

"If held cards are spades or clubs"

No suit isn't any suit

It doesn't violate the requirements

[icy patrol]

Green Stake is suck

[ember root]

Lowkey call me a contrarian but some of these clear glitches shouldn't be justified

The game isn't perfect the code isn't perfect

I don't see why debuffed wild cards should still benefit Blackboard but not Flower Pot

[calm kestrel]

At best it's only a bug

A glitch is entirely different

[ember root]

I thought bug and glitch were synonyms

[calm kestrel]

They aren't

[ember root]

It's a bug then ok, you get the idea

[calm kestrel]

It depends on if Local thinks they should work that way or not

If it's a bug

Or not

So hard telling

Or rather if that was his original intent

[tribal knoll]

what happens if u reach 0 hand size

luxury tax

[ember root]

Idk I guess we'll have to wait and see

[calm kestrel]

You die

[minor badge]

All evidence points to it being an oversight and even if it weren't an oversight it is a needlessly cruel downside

[tribal knoll]

okay noted

not going stuntman then

[ember root]

Totally agree

[tribal knoll]

lol

[calm kestrel]

How exactly?

I mean flowerpot okay sure if it works this other way but

Bosses?

You made the card every suit in the game

What did you expect

[minor badge]

Again I'm talking about the flower pot interaction here

[calm kestrel]

So

One card

Doesn't seem too cruel

[ember root]

Why should a debuffed wild card be literally worse than a no-enhancement debuffed card when interacting with Flower Pot?

That is cruel to an enhancement that's already dogshit

[clever narwhal]

Cool museum

[ember root]

And again I'm only refering to the Flower Pot interaction and nothing else

[calm kestrel]

Idk just saying it's not that cruel because it's a singular joker

[wintry halo]

since when did debuffed wilds benefit blackboard

[ember root]

Sorry I meant to say Flower Pot

[wintry halo]

oh

flower pot is mostly an interaction oversight

[calm kestrel]

Blackboard still gives the x mult when debuffed cards are present I believe

[wintry halo]

if the debuffed wild was originally on a red suit, it will deactivate blackboard

since it's enhancement effects are essentially disabled

[boreal niche]

Shut up andrew

[calm kestrel]

Then I disagree with that since it has no suit tbh

[wintry halo]

gm kamee

[wintry halo]

neither does stone cards

blackboard looks at your hand and see if there's anything other than spades or clubs

[calm kestrel]

Stones can be read is the difference

[wintry halo]

if there isn't, blackboard procs, if there is, blackboard is disabled

what

[calm kestrel]

Debuffed cards cannot be read in scoring by jokers

Thus I don't think Blackboard should able to read debuffeds

Either

It's more an inconsistency thing

Same reason I don't really like ancient cause it can choose a suit you don't have when every other joker that does something similar checks what's in your deck

And choses from that

[wintry halo]

i hate aj for other reasons but it stands out like that so that deck fixing among a narrower set of suits isn't as punishing when it decides to pull an idol maneuver for whatever reason.

no longer being able to dodge boss blinds is also an indirect nerf that was solved in its last patch to make it consistent with its random suit change rule

rarity can also kinda distinguish its quirky ness.

[calm kestrel]

Inconsistency is just bad imo

When there's a rule set it should be followed