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[warped sphinx]

i think i know this

[hollow spade]

buddy you tried to argue that copying chad was correct

i dont think you do

[warped sphinx]

i just like lying

[hollow spade]

mhm, sure

[proper flame]

holy bop

[neon galleon]

hi

[unreal stag]

@cedar echo

[iron portal]

Wenas pal balatro friends of mine

[neon galleon]

damn

[unreal stag]

wut

[neon galleon]

ante?

[unreal stag]

like 6 or 7

[neon galleon]

okay 67 gifs are banned? 😭

better

[unreal stag]

all gifs are banned

[neon galleon]

oh okay

[proud kindle]

WE GOT C

[unreal stag]

whats c

[unreal stag]

if ur shocked from that build

[neon galleon]

I never got so many negatives

[unreal stag]

this was made in ante 9

[neon galleon]

lmao

my best run was with 2 blood stones, blueprint, brainstorm and all 6

(seedless)

[stray vault]

Someone will turn up and say its not good because of bloodstone

Balatro players are massive bloodstone hater

[unreal stag]

everyrun i play is seedless

[iron portal]

But… is Freddy fazbear banned?

[neon galleon]

bloodstone is peak 😭

[neon galleon]

ar ar ar ar ar

[iron portal]

Not me I love bloodgod… even without oops

[unreal stag]

this is the last pic i have of the run i showed u

[iron portal]

Bloodstone has been there for me when no one was

[neon galleon]

whoa

[unreal stag]

i found bloddstone later on

[neon galleon]

what did you remove?

[unreal stag]

ya

[neon galleon]

oh

[unreal stag]

nun

[neon galleon]

okay

[hollow spade]

natty neg bloodstone ??

[iron portal]

So you ecto? How did you survive with no 5 cards?

[shell field]

Ante 12

[unreal stag]

i took a spectral card thinking it would only remove 1 card slot

[hollow spade]

wait how nothing?

[unreal stag]

it took 2

[neon galleon]

yea ectoplasm

[hollow spade]

oh wait you got antimatter

[unreal stag]

the pic was taken at ante 12

[unreal stag]

ya

[neon galleon]

oh

im stupid

[hollow spade]

i solved it eventually

[neon galleon]

sorry

[hollow spade]

i was like

[unreal stag]

bhallaJhalaSkyforgedShrug

[hollow spade]

fucking how you get rid of nothing if not natty neg

then i remembered not everyone only plays to ante 8 so its reasonable to get antimatter lmfao

[shell field]

Js get promatter

Nor anti

[unreal stag]

i took 2 anti matter cards
it took 3 playing card slots then i lost

[shell field]

Haters are bad

[hollow spade]

youre confusing things

[unreal stag]

TBOI

[hollow spade]

antimatter increases joker slots by one

[neon galleon]

yea

[unreal stag]

and takes 1 playing card slot

[hollow spade]

you took ectoplasm without realizing the hand size decrease increaased each time

nope

antimatter does NOT

do that

ectoplasm does.

[unreal stag]

whu

[neon galleon]

this

[somber oasis]

God of misinformation

[hollow spade]

that is antimatter

[neon galleon]

yea

[unreal stag]

never seen this voucher in my life

[hollow spade]

ectoplasm is a spectral card not a voucher

[neon galleon]

lmaoo

[hollow spade]

okay so how did you get a bloodstone without,,, selling anything?

lmfao

[unreal stag]

ya i took a spectral card that makes one random joker nigative

[hollow spade]

im aware of what ectoplasm does

[unreal stag]

mhm

so wdym

[hollow spade]

oh i see you took an ecto to get bloodstone and then ruined yourself

well now you know about antimatter ig lmao

[neon galleon]

used ectoplasm

[hollow spade]

blank v2

it just gives +1 jonkler slot

[unreal stag]

thanks lol

[unreal stag]

jonkler

[neon galleon]

why so serius

[unreal stag]

bffhe he ha

hehehahehehehehe

[hollow spade]

man i wanna try to gold stake another deck today

[neon galleon]

i'm just in black stake lmaooo

[hollow spade]

He beckons...

[neon galleon]

who

[hollow spade]

spaceman

[neon galleon]

i hate him

[hollow spade]

thats because you dont know the strats yet

[neon galleon]

always level up the hands I use as discards

[unreal stag]

goys

in ur opinion
what is the best tag in all of balatro

[hollow spade]

rip the spaceman dream

[neon galleon]

negative

[hollow spade]

i didnt draw the flush as my last hand

[unreal stag]

agreeable

ussrrdr2honor15

[hollow spade]

i think investment

[acoustic geode]

Negative is meh

[neon galleon]

or double tag

[acoustic geode]

Investment is good

[unreal stag]

hmmm

[hollow spade]

investment is prob the one i take most

[unreal stag]

i agree but not as much

[unreal stag]

same tbh

[arctic otter]

Same

[hollow spade]

and i think best means the most used in this game

[unreal stag]

double tag is meant to be used with other tags yk

[neon galleon]

for first ante is peak

[acoustic geode]

Orbital tag is pretty good if you have some double tags and it hits something good

[hollow spade]

this is also fax

[timber sierra]

you remembered

[hollow spade]

you dont always even need double tags

[acoustic geode]

Handy can be good money

[neon galleon]

yeah but it is a tag

[hollow spade]

3 levels to your currently played hand is sometimes equivalent to a round's scaling

[tribal knoll]

yeah

enjoy ur day

[hollow spade]

if not more

[unreal stag]

real

[arctic otter]

I don't think I've ever taken an orbital tag lol

I really should be

[hollow spade]

wait until youre playing straight build and it hits saturn

then you'll see

[acoustic geode]

Well on its own i don't think it's worth skipping a blind for

I only consider it if i have some double tags

[arctic otter]

I'm a ghost deck lover, so im always more for blue seals

[hasty garden]

at long last, after 10,000 years...Gold sticker on EGG

[acoustic geode]

Blue seal is just busted

[arctic otter]

Hell yeah!!!

[hollow spade]

Mmmm free shop tag

[neon galleon]

lmaoo

[acoustic geode]

Free shop isn't really that good

[neon galleon]

for first ante it is

[hasty garden]

it does work as a first tag

[acoustic geode]

Nah

[hollow spade]

zodiac deck ante 1 free shop is insane

[acoustic geode]

Especially on gold stake

It is too risky

There are too many bad hits

[hasty garden]

...okay, yeah, on gold stake it's a huge gamble

[hollow spade]

i gamble ante 1

[hasty garden]

...but so is almost every tag on gold stake

[hollow spade]

i dont care about win rate

i care about having fun

[arctic otter]

Hell yeah

[hollow spade]

it is more fun to have a wicked ante 1

[acoustic geode]

Well yeah only skip i take is just investment ante 1

[hasty garden]

"Oh hey, free polychrome jok-"
It's a perishable rental
"...FFFFFFFFFFFF-"

[hollow spade]

free shop, investment, sometimes i'll sneak in a free rare

[acoustic geode]

Rare can hit tribe and baron

Which is

[hollow spade]

i know it can be bad

[acoustic geode]

So bad

[hollow spade]

but as i said

the gamble is more fun

i play games for fun

[arctic otter]

I know negative isn't that good but IT'S SO FUN

[hollow spade]

RIGHT

they get it

[neon galleon]

cuz we love gambling?

[hasty garden]

Though honestly, that's EVERY joker tag on gold stake. Except negative bc at least that can let you get a gold sticker on something

[arctic otter]

!!! Yeah!!!

[hollow spade]

This is my shop 1 btw

[acoustic geode]

Is it fun skipping for a rare tag just to get an eternal baron

[hollow spade]

Free shop haters are shitting and crying

[arctic otter]

That is awesome

[hollow spade]

Yes.

[arctic otter]

Yes

[neon galleon]

yea

[hollow spade]

Bro is so in shambles

[acoustic geode]

Two bricks

[hasty garden]

If you're playing on purple stake, most stuff is fun

go above that and...you 'bout to start hurtin' for certain

[hollow spade]

And ?

I can sell em eventually

Im in blue stake rn, not even gold

I will be fine lmfao

[arctic otter]

I love to do stupid shitty plays
I will try shitty builds
Wee joker is my best friend

[hasty garden]

Yeah, blue stake is pretty much free reign to screw around

[hollow spade]

i once got a wee joker to like 6k

[arctic otter]

Oh my god

[hollow spade]

i had 2 hacks and bp

[acoustic geode]

shitty
wee

[hollow spade]

also true

wee is one of my favorite rares

[neon galleon]

wee joker is peak

[hollow spade]

insane direction and scaling without needing planets

[neon galleon]

and not only on plasma deck

[arctic otter]

The builds I do with wee are NOT good

[hasty garden]

Been trying to make C++ progress and it hurts my very soul

[acoustic geode]

Wee is THE chips joker

[arctic otter]

I'm the planet card lover

[hasty garden]

since I've gotten up to 1126/1200 stickers...I'm almost out of good jokers I still need golds for

[acoustic geode]

Easier to keep track of it x/150

[neon galleon]

no

[arctic otter]

That's so cool

[neon galleon]

wee is THE joker

[hasty garden]

it really isn't

[arctic otter]

I think it is

Must've taken forever

[acoustic geode]

I mean the point of c++ is doing different builds

[hasty garden]

Yeah, but you hit a point where you get jokers that are literally worthless to keep

Plus, building anything is hard when over half your jokers will be perishable and/or rental

[acoustic geode]

You can win with 3 jokers most of the time

Which is 2 slots for sticker

I guess not most the time

[graceful drift]

Imagine if there was a blind boss just named "Balatro" whose description was: "Beat Jimbo at his own game" and you had to get to Naneinf no matter what

[neon galleon]

i cried when jimbo said "i am the balatro"

[graceful drift]

YES

I cried when he started balatring all over the cards

[neon galleon]

[hollow spade]

JUST PULLED A CHI-GOAT

[unreal stag]

worst legendary joker

OAT

[native tusk]

RHYME PFP

[neon galleon]

yea

[acoustic geode]

The photo is not triboulet

[hollow spade]

you just dont understand

[native tusk]

yippe!! twewy fan spotted

[unreal stag]

wut

[graceful drift]

Boooo

[unreal stag]

enlighten me with ur knowlege

[hollow spade]

theres a reason hes my only legend with a gold stake

[unreal stag]

🍅

[neon galleon]

❤️

[hollow spade]

its because the other ones are FAR more situational

[graceful drift]

Oh no he threw one back

[neon galleon]

i love twewy

i want my dsi back

[graceful drift]

I've never seen that move before

[hollow spade]

chicot is the only one, outside of perkeo for econ, GUARANTEED to have a major impact on your run in high stakes

[unreal stag]

i dont get it

[native tusk]

it's been in my top 3 for a decade!

[unreal stag]

ohhhhhh

[graceful drift]

Bro he deactivates EVERYTHING that comes into your path

[neon galleon]

yea

[unreal stag]

but it still imo the worst joker to exist

[hollow spade]

no

[graceful drift]

How can you say that's not good 😭

[hollow spade]

fr

[unreal stag]

bhallaJhalaSkyforgedShrug

[acoustic geode]

Idol exists

Seance

[unreal stag]

idol can proc at situational moments

[hollow spade]

high stakes prefers consistency. i gamble early because it is more fun despite its inconsistencies

[unreal stag]

still a no

[hollow spade]

chicot is consistent

chicot creates consistency in the same way perkeo does

[acoustic geode]

It's hard ranking legendaries really

[unreal stag]

perkeo is consistent?

[neon galleon]

delayed gratification does not count because professionals are not accepted

[hollow spade]

the other legendaries are good, but they rely on consistency to get set up, and their effects can be replicated by other cards too

[acoustic geode]

It is at least a gold joker

[unreal stag]

HEY I LIKE THAT JOKER

[acoustic geode]

Worst case

[neon galleon]

💔

[unreal stag]

early game ofc

[acoustic geode]

Apart from the clear number 5 it is hard to rank legendaries

[hollow spade]

rip yorick or canio

[unreal stag]

clear winner is triboulet

[hollow spade]

whichever one is the discard one

[acoustic geode]

Clear number 5

[unreal stag]

am not hearing anyone else

[wind fjord]

depends on stake/deck

[unreal stag]

yorik is 5

[acoustic geode]

Yorick and canio is pretty similar

[neon galleon]

yorick is 5

[hollow spade]

i agree

[neon galleon]

triboulet 4

[unreal stag]

favorite deck is checkered

soooooooooo

[acoustic geode]

Yorick is guaranteed while canio can be fast

Imo yorick and canio is 1 and 2

[neon galleon]

chicot

3

[unreal stag]

carl

[neon galleon]

perkeo 2

and canio 1 imo

[unreal stag]

agreeable

[hollow spade]

i guess i just prefer the ones that do something unique

[wind fjord]

moreso stakes lol like anything below blue stake yorick is arguably one of the best but hes so bad blue stake and above

[unreal stag]

NOT agreeable

[hollow spade]

chicot isnt number one but it is my favorite and it is the most consistent outside perkeo

[wind fjord]

unless you find the humble andrew

[acoustic geode]

Yorick canio is either 1 and 2 or 3 and 4

[hollow spade]

perkeo is at WORST a gold joker that also blocks a tarot or planet

[neon galleon]

canio climbs very fast

[unreal stag]

5

[acoustic geode]

That spot is triboulet

[unreal stag]

67

[hollow spade]

i think i agree with trib being worse

[unreal stag]

89

[wind fjord]

perkeo is very good econ if you can find a single hermit/temperance and gives you 4 bucks a round if not

• it creates a gorillion naneinf combos

[hollow spade]

it needs deck setup while the other jokers don't and then either create setup or build with setup

[neon galleon]

perkeo is the most versatile

[unreal stag]

mmmm

ya ya

i agree

[acoustic geode]

Perkeo is nice econ but ultimately you're still in the mercy of the shops' rng

[wind fjord]

trib haters when they find a single retrigger

[neon galleon]

lmao

[acoustic geode]

Maybe it's

Chicot
Yorick
Canio
Perkeo
Triboulet

Actually

[neon galleon]

why yorick in 2th

[hollow spade]

is yorick destroying face cards?

or is that canio

[wind fjord]

thats canio

[neon galleon]

discarding cards

[hollow spade]

okay yeah i think perkeo two, yorick, canio, trib

i agree with chicot 1

[wind fjord]

i dont understand the chicot glaze like what am i missing about it

[hollow spade]

consistency

[acoustic geode]

Again canio is fast but you are still relying on hitting hanged man face

Yorick is just free fast scaler

[wind fjord]

i guess but it has a consistently mid effect while the others can save a run fairly easily

yorick is also consistent and can be made even better with discards that can come from vouchers/jokers

[acoustic geode]

Well chicot is just a 3x mult against vessel basically

[wind fjord]

• hes a fellow of infinite jest so

my goat

[acoustic geode]

And overall prevents any bad boss hits

[hollow spade]

you underestimate how valuable saying no to boss blinds in high stakes is

against the water you can discard for seals

[neon galleon]

maybe all the legendaries are very good jokers

[hollow spade]

against the vessel, it is just a normal 400k

they all are

that's why it is hard to rank them

[neon galleon]

yea

[hollow spade]

but that also means the most unique effects naturally shine brightest, chicot and perkeo are irreplicable

[neon galleon]

they are different jokers

[acoustic geode]

It is hard because all the legendaries have a case for being #1

Well except triboulet that is

[wind fjord]

ranking them is impossible because balatro doesn't exist inside a vacuum and there are too many factors to make one objectively better than the others

[hollow spade]

yorick and canio being able to have their benefits also achieved by even uncommon jokers knocks them below chicot and perkeo, imo

[acoustic geode]

What is similar to yorick

[hollow spade]

tribulet being so hard to get online and being about the same in power as photochad isnt great

[hollow spade]

nothing is as fast, but you can still pretty easily win ante 8 with any xmult scaling

[wind fjord]

like when you find it and the state of your deck can make things like canio/yorick/trib feel completely busted or like dead weight

[acoustic geode]

Well yorick is just free most of the time

Same thing with canio

[hollow spade]

yeah, but so is planet joker

forget his name

[wind fjord]

but at the end of the day they all sell for $10

[hollow spade]

constellation?

[wind fjord]

think so

[acoustic geode]

Yes

It's not the same thing is it

[neon galleon]

me when yorick with petroglyph

[wind fjord]

1 discard a round 🔥

[acoustic geode]

Canio is similar to glass joker

[wind fjord]

did that while trying to find a negative tag for c++ lol

[acoustic geode]

Nothing really compares that way with the rick

Triboulet is just photograph

[neon galleon]

is photo with steroids

[acoustic geode]

Well with how dominant pair is triboulet is ultimately just a photochad

[neon galleon]

me and ballot

[hollow spade]

A game of smash or pass but with balatro jokers

[neon galleon]

yeayaeaey

[native geyser]

Smash all of them
Maybe not Wee Joker

[hollow spade]

Lucky cat? 🫥

Chicot would also disable your boss blind

I think trib goes into S++ tier for smashable tier list bc they double your kings and queens

[native geyser]

ok maybe theres a larger list of passable Jokers
Like Every Food Joker
Or Credit Card

[hollow spade]

all of page 1 is just the same clown twink

so you either smash or pass all of them, depends on your type

page two is interesting

would you smash a dude who has no legs? what about a hand missing a finger? a knife? a flag? rocks? a coupon? a fucking pool ball? a dude glitching tf out? the sunset? a whole fist? also here's the clown guy back again

[hollow spade]

i mean,,, all things considered it could be worse

we're not on the page with the cat yet

[tribal knoll]

page 2 from what

[hollow spade]

joker list

smash or pass

[unkempt pelican]

None

[tribal knoll]

wheres that

cacnt find it

[tribal knoll]

ah collecction

[hollow spade]

Literally just the collection

[tribal knoll]

mime gotta be s tier

[hollow spade]

it def is

[glad oriole]

a knife? yes

[hollow spade]

after each round you get to retrigger your hand

[unkempt pelican]

Professionals have standards.

[hollow spade]

honestly, i think stencil is a great smash here

bro comes pre-drilled

[glad oriole]

bro doesnt even exist

hes basically the absense of a joker

[hollow spade]

gods the idea of ruining a concept 😩

[unkempt pelican]

It a card guys 😭

[glad oriole]

hello i would like to smash nothing please

[tribal knoll]

what about ccard sharp

[hollow spade]

uhhh i mean i dont usually play multiple rounds of balatro at once so i dont think the 3x power boost would be useful

but sure why not

[dusk tartan]

card sharp is one of the best 3x mult options lol

especially if you're playing like

[hollow spade]

my dude

we're not talking about the game

[tribal knoll]

i mean

you come back stronger

[hollow spade]

we are talking about smash or pass with the jokers

this is true

[tribal knoll]

so like

[dusk tartan]

smash

[tribal knoll]

sounds g no?

[hollow spade]

i guess i dont know how many 'hands' are in a 'round' of smash

[dusk tartan]

dude doing it again is 3x as good

[hollow spade]

usually at least 4

[tribal knoll]

i mean regardless as long as its not the 1st time ur g

[hollow spade]

this is true i guess

maybe a round is 1 day though

without more context i can't say how useful it would be, but i still would

kekw

[tribal knoll]

its like the opposite of photograph kinda

[hollow spade]

mmmm hanging chad

[lofty socket]

Gonna pull the worlds best ouija

[coral pebble]

plot twist: it's all 7s

[lofty socket]

Unfortunately ouija hit 7’s

[lofty socket]

SO ITS YOUR FAULT

YOUUUUUU

[coral pebble]

HAHAHAHAHAHAH

IT WAS A 1/13 CHANCE

[lofty socket]

I literally got wee in the next shop, it could have been so fun

[glad oriole]

honestly, 13 of any rank is still great

[hollow spade]

?

who said they have 13

[glad oriole]

right here gng

[lofty socket]

There are 18 of them now and two poly red luckys

[glad oriole]

peak

[hollow spade]

honestly yeah thats still gas

[lofty socket]

Decisions decisions

[hollow spade]

5oak build in ante 8 gameplay is really only possible bc of ouija

[tribal knoll]

is it not better to play two pairs instead of trying to get a pair build if not how so

[glad oriole]

i think ouija's downside should be changed

maybe -1 hand instead if -1 handsize

[hollow spade]

hard disagree

[lofty socket]

No cuz the point of pairs is that theyre spammable

[hollow spade]

i think ouija shouldn't have a downside

[vernal notch]

DNA for infinite spectrals is good

[glad oriole]

-1 handsize makes it veryvrarely usable

[lofty socket]

Harder disagree

[glad oriole]

"infinite" as if they have infinite hands

[lofty socket]

Ouija would be the best spectral with no downside

[hollow spade]

and right now it is the worst

[vernal notch]

You know what I mean

[glad oriole]

depends but i could

[hollow spade]

let

[glad oriole]

hahaha

[dusky coral]

It's the Discord x Balatro collab (real)

[glad oriole]

id say incantation is worse

and

ectoplasm

[hollow spade]

bro is rage baiting so obviously

[glad oriole]

ectoplasm is lowkey buns

losing handsize is just so ass broken heart

i guess its pretty good on pairs though

[ripe wraith]

I take ecto on flush five after deckfixing usually not worth though

[lofty socket]

Couldnt draw the polys to dupe them with only 8 hand size

Screw ts im going back to roblox

[glad oriole]

not worth on non-endless tbh

[tame lotus]

how get good at balatro

[hollow spade]

play

and watch better players

and listen to better players

[tame lotus]

i cant stop playing balatro will that make me get good eventually

[hollow spade]

yea if you learn from your mistakes

[young kayak]

first shop, is there ANY way to be able to take both of these?

[tame lotus]

open buffoon pack and pray for credit card

[young kayak]

shouldve just took mime L

[acoustic geode]

Bus

[hollow spade]

bus is a free win

[young kayak]

sold it and took mime

[hollow spade]

any scaling mult early game you take

any scaling xmult mid game you take

you marry scaling, scaling is how you win consistently

mime is so incredibly volatile as joker 1

you do nothing

[young kayak]

i have raised fist so its not terrible

[acoustic geode]

Free win sold

[hollow spade]

you are praying to find raised fist, steel or afford a baron

[acoustic geode]

😭

[hollow spade]

not terrible is barely keeping you alive

bus would've been a free win with pairs

[forest wagon]

yes, but its a good joker

[hollow spade]

bus is better

[forest wagon]

true in this case bus is easily best

[hollow spade]

better in my world means what is going to lead to the most consistent wins

bus is one of the few commons that itself leads to a consistent win

[young kayak]

im trying to gold stake every deck rn

[acoustic geode]

Well i guess raised fist is there now

[hollow spade]

bus ante 1 and any xmult that you can get online is a win

[young kayak]

wtf are my runs recently dude

[acoustic geode]

Immolate

[young kayak]

its rick

[young kayak]

ok roffle

[icy patrol]

I hate the plant

[young kayak]

yes

[hollow spade]

just get better at the game

[icy patrol]

Canio is suck

[forest wagon]

not really

[acoustic geode]

[forest wagon]

unbreakable glass face cards is epic

[icy patrol]

everybody know that

[acoustic geode]

Nah

[young kayak]

not true

[acoustic geode]

Now that i think about it

Nvm

[tribal knoll]

bus is so cracked

[icy patrol]

with this is going to hell: Perkeo is overrated

[acoustic geode]

No

[young kayak]

fuh nah

[tribal knoll]

ah yes the copiable infinite money infinite deck fixing and infinite planet scaling joker is over rated

[forest wagon]

sometimes yes

its overrated in the way that some people think it does its endless thing in a8 runs

[hollow spade]

nobody thinks that

[forest wagon]

you sure about that?

[hollow spade]

but its still at worse a golden joker that blocks tarot/planet/spectrals

[icy patrol]

bro por fin alguien que habla español, ya somos 3

[young kayak]

"best tarrot card is death"

[forest wagon]

but it doesnt change the fact that its objectively a great joker

[icy patrol]

yeah that's true

[tribal knoll]

u dont even need death

just copy cryptids

[young kayak]

was just saying in general

[icy patrol]

[hollow spade]

i once had perkeo emperor

that was real fun

i was blocking every tarot besides fool, hermit, and temperance

[tribal knoll]

i once became hella rich w perkeo on an a8 run

[hollow spade]

thats what im saying lol

[acoustic geode]

I think perkeo is like

Fourth

In a vacuum

[young kayak]

in a vaccum yeah

[hollow spade]

in practice though, i think it's second

[acoustic geode]

Idk

Hard to argue

[icy patrol]

I love Chicot, Chicot is underrated

[hollow spade]

chicot is number 1

[tribal knoll]

if i was given a choice to get a legendary joker at the beginning of an a8 gold stake run i'd prob go either chicot or perkeo

[acoustic geode]

Everyone loves chicot

[hollow spade]

i think chicot is the coolest joker

as a whole

[hollow spade]

same

[glad oriole]

chicot numba 3

[glad oriole]

false

[young kayak]

is it even woth it sometimes to even use wheel?

[hollow spade]

just like how when i get death cert in isaac i take glitched crown

[hollow spade]

not really

[glad oriole]

usually no

:3

[icy patrol]

[glad oriole]

its

[hollow spade]

if it had a 1% of negative yes

[glad oriole]

better rhan the lovers

[glad oriole]

still no tbh

[hollow spade]

nah i would just for the gamble lmao

[young kayak]

do NOT diss wild cards

[glad oriole]

and the empress

[tribal knoll]

well its good to block editions on jokers for ectos

[hollow spade]

empress slander is wild

wild slander is okay

[acoustic geode]

Wild card does nothing

[tribal knoll]

but taking it when broke is not the play

[glad oriole]

theyre objectively the worst enhancement snd lovers gives you ONE

[young kayak]

early bloodstone would dissagree

[tribal knoll]

wild cards are so utterly useless lmfao

[glad oriole]

mult cards are pretty negligible most of the time

[hollow spade]

i only take it when i have nothing else to buy and buying something else would put me below interest threshold

[acoustic geode]

Bloodstone does nothing anyway

[hollow spade]

it does nothing 50% of the time, actually

[tribal knoll]

i love bloodstone but i'm not spending 1 tarot to get a wild card

id much rather get 3 heart cards or a gold card, or a steel, or anything else than a wild card

[glad oriole]

honestly youre better off just not spending that 3 dollars

[hollow spade]

the other 50% of the time, it does jack squat

[acoustic geode]

1 tarot for 1 wild card

[icy patrol]

[acoustic geode]

It's so ass

[glad oriole]

i hate bloodstone

[hollow spade]

gamble 🙂

[glad oriole]

at least empress is good early game and gives 2 enhancements

[glad oriole]

fuck off

[acoustic geode]

Wild card does nothing but makes the card more vulnerable to bosses

[hollow spade]

bro is such a hater ass bitch

[icy patrol]

bre we're discussing in general lol

[tribal knoll]

exactly

like what even is the point

[glad oriole]

i really hate when people use "gambling" as their argument

[glad oriole]

kk

ok

[tribal knoll]

if i'm playing pairs just why

[hollow spade]

most people play games for fun

[glad oriole]

i do too

[acoustic geode]

Even on non pair runs

[glad oriole]

taking pointless risks is not fun

[acoustic geode]

Like genuinely why

[glad oriole]

imo

[hollow spade]

cool, im not judging how you have fun

spending 3 dollars is a negligble risk

[icy patrol]

I prefiere full house

[glad oriole]

im not judging you either

[hollow spade]

i dont do it when i dont have my econ settled

[glad oriole]

im jist saying its not a good move

do what you want

[tribal knoll]

it offers 0 value other than niche ancient joker setups maybe

idk

[acoustic geode]

Nah aj wants the boss immunity

[glad oriole]

i sometimes take wheels too

[acoustic geode]

Wild card undoes that

[glad oriole]

out of

[icy patrol]

[glad oriole]

idk

[glad oriole]

ancient joker really likes base decks

[hollow spade]

i think we should get a joker that improves two pair and full house

[tribal knoll]

i guess wild cards are decent if you have a chicot

[glad oriole]

yeah

[hollow spade]

1x mult +.1x if played hand contains two pairs of different ranks

[glad oriole]

and pair needs a nerf

or alternatively

[acoustic geode]

Well thing is every other enhancements is just much better

[glad oriole]

larger jands need a buff

[acoustic geode]

Nah

[glad oriole]

yeah

[hollow spade]

i think pairs are fine

[glad oriole]

go watch spectred's most recent video

[acoustic geode]

Nerfing things is not how a single player game should go for balancing things

[glad oriole]

he did say they dont need a nerf

[hollow spade]

it just sucks that the other hands suffer because of pairs

[tribal knoll]

balatro university discussed this exact thing on his new vid and i'm inclined to agree with his take on buffing larger hands instead of nerifng pairs

[glad oriole]

i disagree, if everythings op it becomes unfun

[hollow spade]

i am as well

then dont play with the op stuff

[glad oriole]

mhm

[hollow spade]

its a single player game

[glad oriole]

kinda hard to do thatvif everything is op

[hollow spade]

no one is making you play pairs

[icy patrol]

I played my first color full

[glad oriole]

if yoi never nerf stuff everything will eventually become op

[hollow spade]

you say that as if everything is op

[acoustic geode]

Well pairs is op but sucks when you don't know how to play the game

[hollow spade]

the only thing slightly overtuned is pairs

[acoustic geode]

[glad oriole]

im saying if you never nerf stuff gang

[hollow spade]

and by making game tweaks overall you can tip the scales

[glad oriole]

blue seals tbh

and rebate

rebate is genuinely insane

[hollow spade]

im fine with rebate. maybe make it 4 dollars per discarded rank

[acoustic geode]

A blue seal nerf ultimately hurts bigger hands more than pairs

[hollow spade]

but it isnt insane

[tribal knoll]

is there any good pair gameplay guides out there? i'm trying to get better and more consistent

[glad oriole]

rebate should just be reverted to 3 per

[hollow spade]

and also yeah. i think blue seal should be reworked

[glad oriole]

it is one of the strongest jokers in the game

its a common

[hollow spade]

i think blue seal should give 1 planet card for every 2 cards in played winning hand

so nothing for high card

1 planet for pair

[tribal knoll]

well when you consider how its also common it is kinda wild

[hollow spade]

2 planets for 4 card hands

[glad oriole]

meeeh

[acoustic geode]

Balatro university

[glad oriole]

tgats really op once uou get to high hands

2 saturns per round is insane

[hollow spade]

and currently big hands are pretty shit

straight is the only relevant one

[tribal knoll]

just find a single blue seal for abandoned deck and u won

[glad oriole]

4oak is good

[hollow spade]

so i really don't care if straights are made to be on par with pairs

[acoustic geode]

Seals should give something regardless of hands imo

[hollow spade]

and the other 5 card hands are then buffed too

[acoustic geode]

Making blue useless for hc is not it

[glad oriole]

(mars has the same scaling as saturn)

im not sure how blue seal could be fixed, i just know it should

[hollow spade]

the problem is that any change that doesnt directly buff blue seals with large hands indirectly buffs small hands moreso

[acoustic geode]

I don't think there's a way to make it worse for pairs

[hollow spade]

due to it being activated when held in hand

maybe it could be changed to when played and wins

[glad oriole]

the problem with blue seals isnt just small hands, they are op in any build

[acoustic geode]

So just current blue seals

[glad oriole]

yeaaah

[hollow spade]

i mean, not for big hands

big hands currently cant always afford to retain a blue seal

[acoustic geode]

Well true

It is a nerf to bigger hands even

[hollow spade]

if blue seal activates on play instead, you can put it on your played hand

[acoustic geode]

[glad oriole]

so keep them the same for small hands and make them better fir big hands

[young kayak]

shoot the moon ftw

[glad oriole]

sounds great

[acoustic geode]

It's not possible

[glad oriole]

this no nerfing idea is amazing

[hollow spade]

i mean, i dont know how you plan to make them weaker for small hands without making them even worse for big hands

[glad oriole]

mime is so great

[glad oriole]

i dont

they should be worse all around, not just for specific hands

because they are broken

[hollow spade]

and how do you propose making them worse?

[glad oriole]

hmm

[acoustic geode]

Then again

[glad oriole]

revert

[acoustic geode]

No

[glad oriole]

im jk

[acoustic geode]

Even if maybe blue seal is chance based with the chance increased per CARD scored

Pairs can just

Hoard them

[glad oriole]

maaybe make them activate on first played hand instead of last

[obsidian blaze]

Can someone recomend me whether or not it’s worth buy Balatro for Steam, i bought it 20 Days ago, i really liked the game, and i have a couple of wins in it, and a Gold Stake on Red Deck, and i have 15/31 archievements, but it may be stressful go back all over again unlocking Jokers and all that stuff (i bough it on IOS)

[hollow spade]

every 2 blue seals scored gives 1 planet card, maybe

[glad oriole]

that way you need to draw them earlier

[hollow spade]

oh first played hand maybe

i fear that still makes them better with pairs though

[acoustic geode]

I mean

Pairs can dig aggressively into the deck

[young kayak]

do i even take the brainstorm

[acoustic geode]

With discards

[glad oriole]

its the same game idk what to tell yih

[hollow spade]

kill queen

[glad oriole]

my goal is to simply make them worse, not just for pairs

[young kayak]

ill have no score

[acoustic geode]

Well yeah

[hollow spade]

,,, bro you have rick

[hollow spade]

and then would have three copiers

[icy patrol]

ahh...

[acoustic geode]

But pairs can and will dig in the deck just to draw it without any real drawback

[glad oriole]

u'll be ok

[young kayak]

oh sture

[glad oriole]

its not guaranteed

[hollow spade]

it is more guaranteed with pair than big hands

[glad oriole]

much less likely than how it is currently

[glad oriole]

do i need to remind you again that thats not my goal

[hollow spade]

i think any nerf to blue seals that doesnt inadvertantly nerf pairs moreso is the wrong move

so i dont care if that isnt your goal, because it is the wrong goal

[acoustic geode]

I guess it can work as a nerf

But then again it's an indirect buff because you can get th planet mid round

[glad oriole]

pairs are always gonna be better for blue seals and gold cards

and thats OK

[glad oriole]

its better for short term scoring but worse for long term scaling i think

[acoustic geode]

Like extra .1x for cons

[obsidian blaze]

But what about the mods and ell that stuff

[hollow spade]

i play on mobile, i dont think about mods

[glad oriole]

mods can be fun

but honestly

most of them arent

i like balatro mp

[young kayak]

wtf

[glad oriole]

cryptid was fun for like

a few hours

then it got stale

im sure some vanilla-esque mods are fun but idk

[acoustic geode]

What if

[glad oriole]

hot potato is a fun experience

but also overwhelming

[acoustic geode]

There's an option to skip boss blinds

But the effect will be applied to the next boss

[hollow spade]

there is

its called chicot

oh

[glad oriole]

fullskip to ante 9

easy win

[acoustic geode]

Nah make it so you have to face a boss blind every 8th ante

Or something

[glad oriole]

i mean

[hollow spade]

wording it as boss blinds already does that

[glad oriole]

it would be funny i guess because then the ante limit would become 40

[hollow spade]

the 8th ante is a finisher blind

not a boss blind

[glad oriole]

purely cuz of skips

[obsidian blaze]

is there any way to translade my IOS Balatro data to Steam Data?

[glad oriole]

its still a boss blind

[acoustic geode]

Oh wait

Luchador value

😭

[hollow spade]

shh just add an extra tag about finisher blinds

lmao worst econ joker value

[glad oriole]

skipping boss blinds would be gerrible

[glad oriole]

so make chicot worse

smh

[hollow spade]

oh wait im thinking matador

make chicot do both

[glad oriole]

matador aimt evem the worst hes jist deceptive

[hollow spade]

hes a legendary

[glad oriole]

the worst is still satellite

or delgrat

bluestake+ delgrat is genuinely sad

[hollow spade]

i wish matador just gave like 4 dollars per hand played against a boss, even if hand is not allowed

[glad oriole]

gold joker, but you dont get the money if you discard

im sobbing

[acoustic geode]

4 is so bad

[hollow spade]

16 dollars

maybe 5

[glad oriole]

okay so 16 dollars per ante

[acoustic geode]

Slightly better golden joker

[glad oriole]

kinda wild

[hollow spade]

better than its current state lmao

[obsidian blaze]

Walkie Talkie users would’t say that

[glad oriole]

golden joker isnt 4 dollars per hand gng

[acoustic geode]

Golden is 12 per ante

[glad oriole]

walkie talkie is objevtively mid but man it has carried so many 4oak runs

for me

[acoustic geode]

It's not

[glad oriole]

scholar and wt my goats

[acoustic geode]

You just have to memorise what triggers it

[hollow spade]

yeah fuck that

[acoustic geode]

Or you know

[hollow spade]

its the only card in the game that isnt just fully explanatory

[acoustic geode]

Just open the wiki

[hollow spade]

and that alone is a reason to change its wording

[scarlet haven]

Random beginner question, is discarding cards in the early game to find good hands intuitive? Like is it common to look for Flush early?

[hollow spade]

i look for 5 card hands throughout most of ante 1 to retain played hand money

[scarlet haven]

I got Gold with Yellow deck in this game, all I did

[glad oriole]

yeah

flush is goid ante 1 fodder

but dont lean into them

flushes are evil and make the devilc ry

[scarlet haven]

I see

[scarlet haven]

Yeah absolutely

[hollow spade]

only exceptions:

if you get a per-hand scaler

thats it

[scarlet haven]

I thought I was missing a guide or something

[glad oriole]

wut

[hollow spade]

you only play your hands fully early game to scale

sometimes better scaling is the unused hands

[scarlet haven]

Like I needed a guide to really get even that down

[glad oriole]

ah

[solemn elm]

there is way more nuance to it than this

[hollow spade]

when would you intentionally play hands in ante 1 without a per-hand scaler?

[scarlet haven]

I wanna keep playing gold stake for fun, but I keep spending time in Slay The Spire lol

[hollow spade]

i dont mean just playing enough to win

i mean playing every hand

[solemn elm]

rebate

[hollow spade]

scaling

[solemn elm]

to do list

[hollow spade]

scaling

money is scaling

[solemn elm]

???

money is not scaling...

that is not how people use that word here

[hollow spade]

it literally is when econ is scaling with those cards

[solemn elm]

you are gaining money, that doesn't make it scaling

[scarlet haven]

I'll eventually use a guide then 😬

[solemn elm]

the value on the cards isnt going up

[acoustic geode]

It is scaling for bootstraps

[hollow spade]

the value on the run is with econ

[solemn elm]

...

you're misinterpreting what im saying

by "value" im meaning the number on the card(s)

[scarlet haven]

arbor likes money a lot

[solemn elm]

with bus, the mult it gives is increasing

[hollow spade]

look man, when i said that sometimes your unused hand payout is the best scaling, that was clearly an indication i was viewing money as scaling not just a + mult scaler

[solemn elm]

that's scaling

[solemn elm]

it wasn't clear because you didn't say it

[hollow spade]

mhm, sure jan

[glad oriole]

prrr

[solemn elm]

"clearly an indication i was viewing money as scaling not just a + mult scaler"

"indication", so it was implicit

[solemn elm]

omg hi skinky

[glad oriole]

haai

:3

[solemn elm]

[scarlet haven]

I honestly got from the get go that arbor meant something along the lines of "money is also scaling like mults are"

[acoustic geode]

Big

I think there should be a mult joker that scales with money idk

[glad oriole]

i wouldnt say green joker and gold joker fall under the same category of joker

[hollow spade]

i mentioned multiple times how sometimes the unsued hand money at the end of round is your best scaling

[glad oriole]

i think the unlock condition of bootstraps is funny

"have 2 gay jokers"

[hollow spade]

what is its condition?

[solemn elm]

have 2 gay jokers

skinky just said

can u not read /j

[acoustic geode]

Balatro player

[hollow spade]

nah but we're playing balatro and i've heard from roffle that many of us can't do that

[glad oriole]

i looked through a lot of the unlock conditions recently cuz i wanted to know how many jokers you could realisyically not unlock if you tried

[scarlet haven]

Is there a command here for showing jokers? I know gold, don't remember green

[hollow spade]

green is +1 for played hand -1 for discard

mult

[scarlet haven]

Aha I remember now

[glad oriole]

Green Joker (Common, $4)
This joker gains +1 mult when a hand is played
This joker loses 1 mult when a discard is used
(currently 0 mult)

[tribal knoll]

is it worth getting rid of the duo for the bus

[scarlet haven]

I'll tag you next time I forget another Joker 😅

[glad oriole]

is it 4 or is it 5 i forgort

[hollow spade]

no

[glad oriole]

:3

[hollow spade]

not this late in the run at least

planets would scale faster and not take a joker slot if you take telescope, unironically

[acoustic geode]

Nothing is worth replacing

[solemn elm]

ante 7 and you wanna take bus

when you have supernova

[glad oriole]

over duo

what

[tribal knoll]

was just feeling greedy and i thought it was too late for that but unsure

would be a good time to get that bus now..

(ante 8)

[acoustic geode]

Red card

[hollow spade]

i mean if this is gold stake just take that jolly joker or whatever

you already have the win it seems

get a sticker

[tribal knoll]

yeah a single pair hand is scoring 300k

[hollow spade]

take anti and jolly for sticker then imo

easiest gold sticker of my life

[tribal knoll]

unfortunately not gold its orange 🙁

[hollow spade]

RIP

[acoustic geode]

It's not gold

[glad oriole]

that is not jolly joker

[acoustic geode]

Jolly is pair

[tribal knoll]

im regretting selling that perishable gros michel yday

[hollow spade]

idk any of those 'adjective' jokers

[tribal knoll]

couldve gtten the sticker on it

[acoustic geode]

I think that's mad

[tribal knoll]

now i got no clue how im gna get it

[sturdy gyro]

You already have a scaling +mult joker. No need to

[acoustic geode]

(?)

[hollow spade]

they're all jolly to me

[tribal knoll]

close enoug

crazy joker

[acoustic geode]

Oh well

[glad oriole]

jolly is pairs
crazy is straights (the one we can see)
zany is 3oak
mad is 2pair
droll is flush

[acoustic geode]

I only know jolly for mult and sly for chips

[glad oriole]

all mult

[acoustic geode]

Sly pairs
Crafty flush

[tribal knoll]

ante 1 foil supernova is so wild

[acoustic geode]

I don't know the rest

[glad oriole]

clever straights i think

wily 3oak

okay no clever is 2pair

devious is straights

[acoustic geode]

Is there a reason for them

[glad oriole]

whyh

[acoustic geode]

To be on those hands

[glad oriole]

idk

i think most of the mult jokers are named after "synonyms" of funny and the chips jokers are "synonyms" of smart

[acoustic geode]

I guess

But like why is pairs jolly and sly

[glad oriole]

idk

[acoustic geode]

Why is flush droll and crafty

[glad oriole]

lowkey might just be random

you'd have to ask john balatro

[tribal knoll]

prob no specific reason ye lol

[glad oriole]

[proper merlin]

GENUINE question but why are all the jokers supposedly women (NOT TRYNA BE MISOGYNISTIC)

[glad oriole]

?

the jokers all have ambiguous gender do they not

except the jokers based on real life jesters

[hollow spade]

there are no canon references to gender

the fandom just likes drawing lesbians

[glad oriole]

(perkeo, triboulet, chicot(?))

canio is from an opera and yorick is from a play

but they do have canon genders within those

[long atlas]

well ladies and gentlemen my apartment door is officially frozen shut

darn guess i’ll have to grind balala nonstop for the next 3 days 🙏

[glad oriole]

grind ror2 instead

fire

[long atlas]

ooh yeah i heard it’s peak

haven’t gotten around to it because i’m trying to beat gold stake

[glad oriole]

fair nuff

[marble karma]

🙁

not a single reroll boss voucher all run

[long atlas]

ught that sucks dawg

sometimes the game just screws you over like that

and i assume lucha wasn’t in the cards

[tribal knoll]