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when are you making 75 dollars per round gang
Yes because it allows you to roll more which means you have a higher chance of finding jokers.
ur strategy is based on the luck of the store, once u get a build is not a about luck but every new run is
its inplied
it's statistically better to spread your money usage over multiple rounds because of how rerolls grow in price
It's not
if uou even need to spend 75 dollars all at once you sre implying that uou make it back in a round
why would the hypothetical matter otherwise?
No such thing as diminishing returns if the money provides the same use in the beginning game versus the end game
Which is rerolls
yeah
for better jokets and tarot cards
Hence making having a stupid amount of money
Still have diminishing returns
Cause if you make solid econ anyways
It doesn't really matter
does having to use a scenario that almost never happens as an example make your point seem less cresible?
if havig a stupid amount of money isnt all that good why is rebate the best joker ever
The money is just used towards different things in the early game versus the end game. Diminishing returns is just a buzzword here
Dw I've been lurking for the last 10 mins as well
It's not it's true I don't need a lot of money I only need decent enough money
this reminds me of people who say baron is good lmao
you dont need jokers to win the game too
but you ise them
why do you use jokers
I need a shit ton of money late game because I've spent $5k rolling for 1 joker
reminder that it took like 3 hours for them to properly read a quiz about chips vs mult
It was a hypothetical posed to make the point obvious
why not make a realistic scenario then?
baron is obviously good because you can fix your deck to have all kings
just a hypothetical though
Baron is good just not in the span of 8 antes
so its not good
holy luck my dudes
Because it won't fit their narrative
It
Is good
Just for a different part of the game
ancient dont pick from you deck
whats that
ik
a part of the game i do not like to discuss because the meta is boring
1 joker gets negative
-1 handsize
It still exists
no no
was it from a wraith
It
Is
i did the get 1 rare joker set cash to 0
theres 1 achievement tied to endless
if a joker is good if you already won the game, is it?
and you only have to get to ante 12
@glad oriole
that is why i was so hype
Achievements really don't matter
yes they do, they unlock stuff
real
They're just incentives
the ante 12 achievement unlocks petroglyph
Unlock all is a present option
how much use does a joker really serve if you need to have already won a run to actually utilise it
it is
If it wasn't an option than sure
but thats lame
It would be more relevant
Very good use just not in the first antes
instead of just playing
so it's not useful in the antes that mstter for winning
the first 8 antes maybe
Yeah.
It's
Not an RPG
I didn't feel like wasting my time
is that even a thing?
is it a waste if you're having fun
didnt know that
because i know i have fun getting those little steam notifs
I didn't have fun trying to use a forced progression system
its on the profiles screen
it disables achievements
That really didn't fit for this genre of game
forced progression system
it's something that most roguelikes in 2026 have
ah i mustve missed it
progression is literally one of the cornerstones of roguelites
har har harrrrrrrrrrrr
insane logic
but still i had a lot of fun unlocking everything
who is balaing up they tro
That's
Why I don't play a majority of rouge likes
Forced progression in a genre that it doesn't fit for
It only works in certain cases not when it locks basically everything in the game
anyway i think progressing through roguelites is really fun
i oove how hades' story interacts with the progression
its not forced though
roguelites and roguelikes are different things
if you dont want progression play roguelikes
though there arent very many of those
It's forced when it's both not an option and locks most of the game for no reason when the whole point is to have fun with rng giving you random stuff
forced progression that makes you properly interact with every part of the game and learn it
theres usually a reason
i think we discovered why they pressed unlock all
If it wasn't for the unlock all button I would have quit playing Balatro
wow no way
Before I even got here
well thats how you play
most people dont do that
Probably would have refunded it
what happened
the flint....
moment
I don't want to be handheld I want to learn myself not because the game forced it upon me
Because I wanted to
my point with the achievements was more like
if endless was meant to be a big part of the game it would certainly have more achievements tied to it
balatro doesnt hold your hand gang
What did you play? Flushes?
me? ya
it gives you a tutorial and then throws you straight into the fire
It does when it
Tells you exactly what to do to unlock things
checkered deck
That's handholding
What was your hand level?
It forces you to do specific things
3
jokers like ancient need a lot of planet levels
I don't like that
would you rather not know and just do random shit hoping u get a new unlock
sounds so fun
So I just pressed unlock all
Oh, that's why. RIP
Well sometimes it just doesn't happen. Keep going
I would rather no unlocks because it doesn't fit here imo
So
I pressed
Unlock all
There's nothing wrong with that
okay
yeah there isnt
my gambling addiction wont be watered down bru
dw ill go to new vegas and gamble all my caps there
I like Deck and Stake unlocks just not joker unlocks
And planet unlocks and whatever else
you dont unlock any planets they're all available from the start
chat are sidequests telling you what to get for an npc handholding
eris, ceres, and planet x only show up in a given run if you've played the hand before in that run, but they're only considered "not discovered" by the collection
no consumables need unlocking
i dont think any consumables have to be unlocked
i think you're mixing them up with the tier 2 vouchers
Maybe
Well, for them to be shown in your collection, they have to be.
i mean it makes sense that you dont know
They have to be consumed.
yes
they have to be discovered to show in the collection
Still I'm not completely against progression I'm just not fond of how the progression was handled in this case
but they're always unlocked
wokay
you're wrong and thats oki <3 /silly
I can't be wrong it's an opinion
the progression system is the least of what i'd criticise about balatro
Subjectivity can't be objective
notice the /silly
Well, the "unlock" is kind of same to me. There are some jokers unlocked the same way. Like Seeing Double. You have to play a certain hand to unlock it, and the same goes for undiscovered planet cards. So sometimes (not all the time), they make no difference.
It's the biggest thing for me if it weren't for the presence of unlock all
Because it's what would have made me quit
Without that
for me the biggest problem with balatro is blue stake
which is gonna be fixed
I like blue stake
i prefer thunk keeping the progression system than not changing blue stake
because blue stake just restricts you into using strategies that are already optimal to begin with
and yet you think 2 pair is better than pair
It only poses an issue on black deck but that's fair
Black deck has the largest upside in the game
i dint care enough
Or at least one of
i'd say +1 hand and +10 starting cash are larger upsides for high stakes
It makes sense it punishes you so hard
yeah
extra joker slot is good though
but you cant take advantage of it for a while
whats the point if you just die before getting the 6th jerker
i guess stencil gets 6x mult
yay
either way it just neuters 5 card hand strategies even more while smaller hands are still just enough to get you through 8 antes
It's ok, just restart till you find the Drunkard in the first shop. 🤣
Actually want more jokers that care about more niche things like how many or how few jokers there are ngl
okay so now instead of -1 discard blue stake is -1 joker slot
fair nuff
we only have 2 rn technically
That's fair
it basically just serves to restrict suboptimal strategies and that's just bad design
maybe 3 (bbc)
I mean that's fair enough criticism I just personally enjoy the downside
Blue offers
Honestly, 6 joker slots never made too much of a big difference to me. But it's fair, it can make a huge difference in certain conditions and for some players. 1 extra joker slot can mean a lot.
while all of the other effects test fundamentals
i think theres more enjoyavle downsides than -1 discard
like red and gold testinf your economy
does plasma deck count?
Plasma doesn't translate that well into high stakes
orange and i guess black testing your resourcefulness
you'd love old gold stake 
it was literally -1 handsize
so fun
it's upside is overpowered
yeah but we're talking about upsides and not downsides right
2x blind size is just a crippling downside
That just seems unnecessary
real
it was which is why it was changed
It's not really a good enough upside to be good for high stakes specifically tho
It's not bad but not crazy either
On low stakes it is pretty broken tho
i genuinely wonder how people played when every blind was the manacle
plasma deck gold stake fucking stinks for sure
Manacle -2 hand size
it was like the current meta but a little more atrocious
Pairs just become mandatory
i guess rentals and perishables didn't exist yet but you're basically forced to get an easy scoring joker or die
Yeah it basically
Makes everything that isn't pair or high card
Completely obsolete
That's not fun
basically the same reason why every gold stake player hates blue
How is the use of the Soul spectral card good or bad?
packs get 1 dollar more expensive per ante
booster pack prices used to scale on orange
no orange stake you troglodyte
which limited your options even more
Oh
im sorry that was mean
yeah qwq
As a child
what
8 dollar buffoon pack by ante 4
Someone check on him
current orange is annoying but more fair
pretty ok but less than immolate is crazy
I don't even know what it is
jesus
perishables can appear
Oh that's literally nothing
and you argued with us about pairs vs two pair in gold stake
perishable blueprint upon ye
When you only play gold you tend not to know what the other stakes do just know what they do in combination
I like forcing straight flush builds so I die 97% of my games Clueless
duuuude so real
I played all the stakes a while ago
i got early seance in checkered like 3 runs in a row and tried to force strushes each time
guess how that went
unlock all user moment
Does anyone know why the gold pit in the abandoned deck is so difficult? It took me two months to beat it.
I literally played every stake around when the game came out and now it's just only gold
it shouldnt be tbh
Like yeah I unlocked all
abandoned is really really good
abandoned deck is one of the easier ones
no face cards but you have face card brainrot like I do
yeah
But I still played all difficulties
abandoned pretty good tho
i said that as a joke tbh i meant no harm
face card builds aren't common enough for not having any of them to be a deal breaker
I personally don't like abandoned that much
weird
oh fair
getting ridiculous deckfixing for doing literally nothing is funny
they are for me. I like my binding of isaac and stardew valley cards ok
I normally don't play blue, red, and yellow for similar reasons
i like abandoned cuz when i get my beautiful precious beloved purple seals i can draw them more consistently
at the start you rely on them a lot but then you learn that unconditional jokers are more practical
I love friends of jimbo
I know abandoned deck is good
Not really
Most mods that I know of completely break the game
I don't like that
is there a good vanilla-ish balatro content mod besides extra credit
theres a handful of vanilla mods
like uhhhh paperback
i dunno how trily vanilla it is
I forgot about extra credit I should consider
i onlu play the broken mods
extra credit is pretty tame outside of pocket aces and maybe joka lisa
It seems like a good mod
i pkayed cryptid for more hours rhan i should
i probably got worse at the game because of it
I mean base game has some rare broken exceptions too
I just don't use it cause I love seeing my favorite little characters on the face cards
that's common
So 2 jokers is fine
hot potato was also a load of fun but it was a bit of an information overload
pocket aces is so overtuned it's funny
Do they still update the mod?
i ended up breaking the game by using the umamusume mechanics on econ jokers
gains +2$ every time an ace is scored
resets after boss blind
not sure
thats insane what
Muhknee
it's rebate level shit with the echo deck
B-b-but muh knee 🥺
Take (blank) for the.. muh knee?
and joka lisa gains 0.1x mult for every unique enhancement in played hand
which is yorick type stuff
Is it a legend or some?
rare
welcome to slop live
Probably a bit over tuned for a rare but it's okay
it's the type of joker that trivially gets to obelisk type xmult with yorick levels of effort
thats crazy
my fav joker in cryptid is the one that retriggers all jokers to the left for each joker on the right
forgot the name
Honestly should be legendary to be fair
constellation levels i guess
Bit rare ain't too bad
super strong xmults are common in the rare rarity anyways
something funny about cryptid is there's an exotic joker that gains 1x mult every time anything happens and its probably one of the worst exotics
If you told me this was an uncommon or lower I would have freaked out
and then there's exponentia
other exotics include ^mult jokers and just crazy op value generators like speculo
Rare I don't feel too bad about tho
That obviously can be strong but it does require you to work for it
well it's more like the 2 strongest scaling xmult jokers that aren't yorick or canio are rare jokers
but yea
speculo is like perkeo but instead of consumables it copies jokers
Me when rick says yo
Ggs chat
campfire!!!!
alrighty :3
Don't enjoy it
what jokers do u enjoy
It feels bad
campfire just trivialises the last few rounds for you
It does
like you take it and violet vessel dissapears and you win the game
I just feel bad sacrificing stuff like that
i already take random consumables to filter stuff so
I'm going to sound like a hypocrite but I like dagger
Yeah (ignore the stake)
It's permanent. That's why I like dagger
me too
And it makes a satisfying noise
madness is cool
its really good
Which is fair
It scales really well
and get some decent eternals
I like Stencil
oorrr blue seals
dagger is my favorite scaling +mult joker
it's just different than the rest
stencil is equivalent to duo in most cases
i remember one of my earliest wins.... it was loterally just 3 stencils
I really like Perkeo Perkeo makes me feel good
perkeo is awesome vro
im a big deckfixes fan
i like all tarot gen
yes even superpos
My first ever gold stake was 4x polychrome stencil on magic
THE NOISE PERKEO MAKES
It's just so nice
the negative sound effect is sweeet
my first black deck win was stencil blueprint
..... I have sensory processing disorder that's probably why I focus on audio so much
If it makes good noise idc how good it is
It is suddenly good
So a list
I like
Stencil
Steal Man
Baseball
Burglar (it's both money and scoring)
Dagger
Madness
Baron (I know it's not good for actually winning I just like seeing big numbers later)
Retriggers (I like to load up with enhancements)
mime makes ONE blue seal become like level 40 hand
its crazy
yeah
mime is a strong independent girl she dont meed no king
It also enables crazy scoring by itself with steal
i headcanon mime as a boy but that was a bar
mhm
making steels glass-level strong isbawesome
I'm usually pretty aggressive with deck fixing if I have the choice anyways
So why not
same same
i love purple seals so much i sometimes spend too much money on standard packs because of it
yeah that would be cool
Purples get broken when you have a lot of them
it's incredible i'm having a harder time orange staking nebula deck than black deck
i once got a gay mime thanks to purple seals and the wheel
purple seals scale almost exponentially
Oh I like Lucky Cat too
But I never get it
consumable slots and discard amounts limit that luckily
lucky cat is awesome when it works
kbity
its just rare
mreow
You only want extra discards for more purple seal value
wxactly
indeed
cat is fun
I want a joker for 7s
"do X when hand contains 3 7s"
maybe it should make all cards lucky instead of just 7s
cuz there arent many 7s in the deck
We're rolling our dice with this one
You fool
I'm playing erratic Deck
I hate blue stake
Honestly? Full house synergy is kinda needed full house is sad rn
5 oak is just better with similar deck fixing requirements to make consistent
3, 4, and 5 all build into eachother
Which makes full house even more useless
what would happen if i put my cat thomas in a jar of bone melting vinegar, would he get xray vision?
No, he'd be able to see through walls
Two pair is just about the only thing that scales into house and two pair is just better to stick to usually
relavance?
imo 4oak > 5oak but im not resdy fir that discussion
You're going to make me pull a Roffle
still recovering from pairs vs 2pairs
this is true yes
Depends what you're doing
35 chips over 30 isn't really meaningful
the only reason why i would play 5oak is if i had wee
the biggest difference is the amount of cards ur playing
and there's like
Would saaay usually yeah
Guys how do u get erratic deck?
so 5 glass vs 4 glass but either way u just win
1 suit changer of difference between it and flush 5
beat orange stake
Weeeell if we wanna bring flush 5 in yeah usually it's better to just wait
Almost always actually
Oh okay
baron mime abandoned deck
Stg I wanted to pull a Roffle and criticize their ability to read
my deck is almost all 2s
That's so cursed
ill just get strength<3
baron mine pivot with yorick and wee?
yeah
ofc
totally
How big is your wee?
Damn that's massive
double massive wee <3
it won't survive much longer, a dice would be worth it for a wee
lucky red seal 2s
Local reacting to all the accidental innuendos he put in the game
ok, ima roll past the baron mine now <3
ooooh, bloodstone
that might be worth
down to single massive wee
One hung man has left the party
@finite river You was right, jokerless doesn't hard at all, lol. 4oak build too
oh God
what do i do </3
yorick at 27x, 3k chips on wee
i know i should pick it up but i don't know for what
It’s 1.5x up to like 10 times max but it’s closer to 5 even if you’re using hack
Compared to 27 squared
red seal <3
7.5?
15 divided by bloodstones 1 in 2
But it won’t unless you get yourself a oops
Negi oops all 6s will apear trust
think of it as 1.25^15 not 1.5^7.5
Keep gambling! /s
hmmmm
the real EV
i could also copy yorick with brainstorm
how many chips do u have and what is wee at
3k on wee joker
hiw many chips is ur base hand
1k
4k total roughly
mmm, i see
you think cutting my chips into a quarter would work?
yk what, balatro score calculator
well yes
its on avera
ge
worse than bloodstain
Lmao, well done 🙏
FINALLY
hate nebula deck man
admittedly having supernova with nebula deck is kinda funny though
Isn't that the one that floods the shop with garbage
nah that's zodiac
nebula is start with telescope and -1 consumable slot
honestly certificate is such a carry joker
with how little deckfixing i've been getting deckbloat hasn't been an issue tbh lol
like this run was a highcard build
Sometimes that happens
But is it better than 4 giftcards and swash
hrmmmmmm
With an eternal rental negative egg
(Maximum funny build)
i mean 16 mult every round versus infinite seals is pretty hard to say
that setup uses all joker slots tho 
or near all joker slots anyways
normally
i rlly want this voucher, what should i sell?
Your soul
dawww man
to be honest, you probably don't want to switch out of your joker setup
gettibg those jokers ante 3 means big scaling
You should just focus on finding your wee to fit chips in
true..
Give me your seed
ou..
Please share
I think this run mightve been cheated
Huh, that thought never crossed my mind in the slightest
how tf did this happen first draw
The one piece images
Hello! I was wondering, is there a channel i could post a cosplay of Jimbo im working on? If not, where would it be more ideal to do so
shoulda just taken summit
yeah i was just trolling
ended up winning tho
jut not that run
sick
cba continuing a run w 0 cash on round 1
Joker poker balala
youve heard of photochad but what about lucky chat
gg
I had a run like that yesterday
Idol instead of photo wouldve made this run go absolutely insane
or trib
Truth
do i pivot
goobaogga
how do you even get this far 💔
LeBaron James
hi ryo
anyway, this is my current run.
this game wants me dead
small world
X67 lucky cat, yes it was unfortunately exactly on that number for my last hand
Hello nijika
i dont even have it, i think
Istg I got
Pair jokers
On erratic deck
yeah i dont got it 💔
tfw 9 kings in erratic
Id probably try unlocking most jokers then
Most jokers you unlock help a bit (besides obelisk)
Actually i dont remember if you start with obelisk or not
Chat, is Obelisk worse than epstein?
Obelisk isn't a bad joker
ob*lisk
obelisk is pretty cracked sometimes
it can easily be a ton of x mult
but it do be kinda tricky to play around with
jacking it so gud
Okay, hit the road
Nvm seed wasn't too crazy
But
This one
11 aces
Seee
Simply find scholar
Rental rif raf..
It could be scholar
Two jokers for 1 dollar sell
idkwym
scholar and chad in 1 pull trust fr
Radio Egg
i heard they make great music
Rental Foil Half Jonkler
Hmmm
I'll think about it
Supernova Zainy next pull... I could probably get three of a kind going or something
if only
mostly for a8 vv
Well rn I'm just grabbing the gold steak
New profile
Sorta have to play responsibly so can't skip it unfortunately
I don't think I even want planet levels rn
Don't wanna overscore
Found scholar
Easy run
Ante 4 constellation
Perhaps
Eternal egg
Balatro is awesome
tell me something i don't already know
I'd really like a seed with a lot of twos and wee
<@&1133519078540185692>
Seed with 2 2s
Ironic
1 2?
The horror
6 2s 9 Jacks
Maybe
Eternal egggg
The funny
Why can I never find a wee seed
temperance value >>
I'll switch to plasma surely the chip jokers will appear then right
Nat Negative shoot the moon
What
Shop 1 nat neg
I'm too poor bro
Hiker was the other option tho, unfortunately perishable
Blueprint shop 2?
What
which 1
ah
shoot the moon
yeah no way to afford that
Shoulda been on gold stake
Yellow deck
Bruh
My brain
Hiker but no wee is tragic tho
And I don't even get to keep the hiker
Space joker...
Hmmm
Sure
Hiker gone
... Soul
Canio
not too bad
I shouldn't have used hiker on so many faces shii
Polychrome wee
Hmmm
Expensive
But funny
I did upgrade all of my twos
Would like some retriggers now
Immolate
Can't find spectrals either

Just lost unfortunately
Thats tragic
Seemed promising couldn't find anything
Next game will be goated
Investment tag
Yummers
Perishable Carto in pack is finee
Death off the bat
Make 2
Blackboard you say
Okay
what
Best hands for gold stake
i know two pairs
Pair two pair and straight
what the hell is gold stake
Really
Highest difficulty
Hi, does anyone speak Spanish?
Skill issue didn't press unlock all
While I can this is an English server
And that's against the rules
Either way, I've got nothing to lose by trying, besides, it's hard to find Balatro servers in Spanish.
Unfortunately English is required here for moderation purposes
i do but just don't speak spanish in here
theyre a lil difficult to find yes but you're bound to get something eventually
just dont break the rules in here and we're g
This insult is completely deserved
no joke
Best tip is unlock all immediately saves a ton of time
how do i?
Go into your profile
And press unlock all
Easy easy
Turns off achievements though
But it's okay you can have a different profile if you still want achievements
Unlocks all stakes, decks, and jokers
It's the most garunteed way to have fun immediately
i heard they are broken
Don’t tell a new player to hit the button that removes the intended progression
They’re really powerful in one specific build
chat which deck should I play
You probably won’t get it
I was that new player that hit it after 2 hours and enjoyed the game infinitely more
what is it
green
Black
wait
Mime is good by itself jus saying
Baron (kings held in hand give x1.5 mult)
Mime (retriggers effects for cards held in hand)
Baron isn't good for actually winning don't suggest that
i heard there are hung chads
They need to win
There's hung chads
how do I get a baron
so if i unlock everything
i can use the most broken build?
i remember this one build
it was like
skip 2 bosses
But only if you can set it up
and then the boss
Still it's not good for actually winning
then like complete it in a specific way
and yiu get a paper
a rainbow paper
a gay ass paper
Baron Mime unlocks infinity but it's bad at winning 8 ante
Baron is usually bait
Mime is almost always good
Retrigger gold
Retrigger steal
Retrigger blue seal
It does the money
It does the scoring
And it does the scaling
Mime is great
i got the gay joker
Polychrome
BRAINSTORM
now i can hex it
awww
If you use it again it'll destroy it
You don't want to lose that
And maybe give me that seed after you're done
you cant ectoplasm
Hexing the blueprint will destroy the brainstorm
open buffoon pack first
mid
My friend whos new to the game thinks card sharp sucks 😞
Yoops
Wrong reply
i mean he's new at the game
X3 mult so bad
guys
One of the best jokers in the game still
Crazy
is showman good
is hanging chsd good
very good
thats how broken it is????
blueprint and gay ass paper
by paper you mean rebate?
Brainstorm
thats pretty insane
wait lemme take a ss
ah
Hollyyy
yes
IDK why you don't copy abstract tho cause x2
where
Glask
NAHHWHWHWHHHFNG i got sock and buskin
Well all know
nuts
It's okay there's no shame in it I sock my buskin from time to time
my deck is so erratic rn
Kings are bad anyway
Face cards have the most synergy out of every rank and have higher chip value
Any tips on beating gold stake?
Pair two pair straight
Nah
Cloud 9 value
Find good econ jokers early, your econ is everything. Prefer scaling jokers instead of the ones with fixated values.
don't be afraid to restart early if ante 1 wasn't good, especially if you're struggling with econ
11 dollars every round??
Insane value
hell yeah
Ante 1 reroll voucher sad to see
flush 5 ante 1 big blind is stupid
Niceeee
woahhh
