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[exotic sparrow]

On average

I mean not wee

[limber steppe]

90,520 to 100k

[exotic sparrow]

Square and casgle

[alpine plinth]

idk I just don’t like castle that much

[limber steppe]

IM WINNING

[boreal niche]

square is consistent, runner has the best cost-to-efficiency ratio, castle is uncommon and scales with discards, bull directly converts econ to mult, and wee has the highest ceiling

all of them are usable

bull is also uncommon i forgot to mention

[limber steppe]

LETS GOO I WON

[alpine plinth]

Including blue joker and the hand chips

[steel fiber]

nicely done!

[alpine plinth]

Which stake

[limber steppe]

eh just white

[exotic sparrow]

blokers good

[limber steppe]

i bought the game long time ago but its js been sitting on my backlogs

[alpine plinth]

Blue is weird when you are trying to go for specific cards like blue seals and luckys

[exotic sparrow]

well its good cause its a very consistent early game joker

[alpine plinth]

True

[boreal niche]

in any case

pairs are great

blue stake and above heavily discourages 5 card hands

straights are the only real viable 5 card hand because of that due to saturn's insane scaling

pairs are good because they're very consistent

get +mult joker get money get +chips joker (optional) get xmult joker win

be careful of some boss blinds but other than that it's always a good strategy to rely on

[velvet aurora]

would yall rather be a fish sized human or a human sized fish

[flint copper]

Human sized fish

[young ice]

I still don't get how pairs are good, probably cuz I'm relatively new at the game

[boreal niche]

well i've been talking about them for the past 20 minutes so if you scrolled up you'd learn

[young ice]

Lemme see

I still don't get it

[velvet aurora]

reliably drawn in hand, easy to build into the cards rather than the hand type (meaning you can have a full(er) deck of enhancements), you arent punished at higher stakes and they scale very well

[young ice]

Aren't they really weak tho

[velvet aurora]

at first

so are high cards

doesnt make them bad

of course theres some luck involved

but you scale a bit

and youre fine

card sharp, green joker, acrobat, photochad, etc

all quite simple and reliable strats with pairs

im missing a lot

fib

[young ice]

What do you do early game?

[velvet aurora]

get decent jokers

buy card packs for seals

[glad oriole]

photochad im crine bro

[velvet aurora]

ive ran it multiple times for pairs

[glad oriole]

but theres better hands

wawwawawa

[young ice]

Hmmm I think I get it

[glad oriole]

i gotta stop randomly saying wawa

[velvet aurora]

oh def, just saying simply

[glad oriole]

but wawawawawwwswa

[young ice]

Is it actually that good

[glad oriole]

yeah

honeslty

pairs are just meta because blue stake is a bitch ass

[young ice]

Does it work in every stake?

[glad oriole]

yes

its still good onnlower stakes

its just very dominant in high stakes

because bluebstake

[velvet aurora]

im bias as fuck bc I love full/flush houses but yes pairs are very consistent

[young ice]

I guess I'll try it then

[glad oriole]

full houses are gross and stinky

[velvet aurora]

I love them

[young ice]

Thanks

[velvet aurora]

I ran walkie talkie and photo the other day with 10s and jacks

that was fun

[glad oriole]

might as well do like 4oak

[velvet aurora]

bleh

flush houses are fun too

[glad oriole]

full hosues are gay why would you put the effort into them when u can get 4oaks for the same effort

[velvet aurora]

because I enjoy them

[glad oriole]

strange

[velvet aurora]

its not for comp reasons

I just like full houses

[glad oriole]

comp?

[velvet aurora]

competitive

[glad oriole]

😭

[velvet aurora]

not for attempt of beating the game

[glad oriole]

its a singleplayer game tf u mean comp

[velvet aurora]

its a term

like

[young ice]

I got ancient joker first shop

[velvet aurora]

if I was trying comp id play straights every game

because they scale amazing

etc etc

im doing it casually for the fun of it

rather than with the goal of winning

[glad oriole]

no nobody calls it competitive

theres a multiplayer mod

[velvet aurora]

😭

[glad oriole]

thats competitive

[velvet aurora]

youre taking it too literally

[glad oriole]

i dont like weird terms

mmmmmmmmmm

[velvet aurora]

oh well

[glad oriole]

full house stanks

purple seals are op

standard packs might be better than arcana

[young ice]

.

[boreal niche]

what am i looking at

"a little bit of this and a little bit of that" ahh build

[alpine plinth]

Wild card build goes hard

They couldn’t decide wether they wanted to go with the betrayer or the precious

[young ice]

I decided to do a flush run

[alpine plinth]

Flushes can be good on high stakes if you get good jokers for them, like ancient

[young ice]

Should I change bloodstone for photograph

[alpine plinth]

Yes

Wait

No kill the baron

[alpine plinth]

Kill Baron

[young ice]

I already killed bloodstone

[alpine plinth]

Buh

[young ice]

You told me to

[alpine plinth]

Also why did you take a baron

That’s like the worst joker to get on a flush build

[young ice]

It was rare I thought it could come in handy

[alpine plinth]

It didn’t

[young ice]

I know it know

[young ice]

Do I change baron for baseball card

[alpine plinth]

I mean it would technically do more then a baron

Save your money it’s not worth

[young ice]

Aight

Do i

It surely must do better than baron rite

[arctic otter]

I like the tribe!

[young ice]

Yaayy

I beat black stake I'm so happy

[radiant arch]

are your flushes wild tho, or do you have an equal deck?

[young ice]

Wdym wild?

[radiant arch]

wildcards

lovers tarot

[young ice]

No

I just look for the flushes I want and play them

[light saffron]

Why did neither of these count as a straight?

[boreal niche]

it doesn't count in poker

why would it count in balatro

an ace counts as a high or a low

not both

[light saffron]

oh

I don’t play poker didn’t know

[sly ingot]

Lmao

[unborn oriole]

I would fuck yall over in some monopoly rn

[sturdy spire]

Hello

[light saffron]

I finally won I’ve been playing for 4 hours 😭

[latent thicket]

i mean the king is with the queen so he is straight

tch

mobile sucks

now i ruined the joke

[tribal knoll]

Lmao

[slim junco]

TG9CGYQB
decent run with double photo, chad, blueprint, and sock
purple stake win

[tribal knoll]

sheesh

[neon cape]

bruh

[tardy yarrow]

what ante twin 🌹

[neon cape]

first

[tardy yarrow]

...wait did you take a foil tag

or rare tag

[neon cape]

rare tag

[tardy yarrow]

...

[neon cape]

i hate my self propably copying seed and playin on white steak ngl

bro i oppened a spectral pack and i get ankh

[neon cape]

definitly im doing that

[stray vault]

New day new balatrodle

[eager vessel]

one of my best runs in a minute

[wary surge]

I love balatro

[acoustic geode]

Copy the glass

[forest wagon]

sockograph do be one of the worst combos in the game

[latent thicket]

what if they add a fertilizer for the plant

[prisma night]

always the plant

[ionic cypress]

guys, does anyone know some cool balatro mods to play

Im bored 😉

[tribal knoll]

totally legit and not some sort of spam scam guys

[tribal knoll]

yahimod

and cryptid should keep u busy for a while

[forest wagon]

<@&1133519078540185692>

[solid timber]

Bam

[tribal knoll]

ty

[ionic cypress]

what does jahimod do?

[tribal knoll]

its a very funny mod

it adds a ton of meme jokers

meme blinds and a lot of absurdity

cryptid is more unbalanced but serious

[ionic cypress]

alright Ill check it out thanks

[tribal knoll]

but yahimod is just unbalanced and silly

full on silly

there's a blind that sets your game speed to 0.10x or something

[oblique isle]

“Silly”

torture

[tribal knoll]

when i had to beat that blind i was giggling once i realized what it really meant

and played the hand on the background until it beat it

which was after like 20mins

[elfin tapir]

I found the godrun (have observatory too)

[tribal knoll]

gl

that splash is doing heavy lifting

[static sinew]

Hello!! I need tips for this run, its my first time with Ballot, Blueprint and Photograph😔

I am new in the game

[tribal knoll]

just get good base mult with planet cards on whatever is your most played hand right now and you should win

[static sinew]

Sorry for my english je

[tribal knoll]

if you copy the photo or the chad with the blueprint it doesnt rly matter

[static sinew]

I play flush in this run

[calm kestrel]

Counter argument

It matters because Chad Photo Chad is funnier to say then Photo Chad Photo

[static sinew]

So what am I looking for?

Is the order of the wild cards correct?

Jokers*

Wuaaa

[tribal knoll]

you would want to put jokers with some base x mult on the rightmost side and additive mult jokers on the left but since you dont have any x mult jokers its good

[tribal knoll]

just get jupiter planet cards to get more base mult for photo chad and you'll be good

[calm kestrel]

Yeah the order is wrong

You have flat mult to the right of x mult

It should be to the left

Actually ig on played doesn't matter but still a good habit

[tribal knoll]

i don't think it makes a difference here since photo mult always applies first regardless of order but yeah

[calm kestrel]

I just instinctively do it no matter when it triggers

Wait no actually

The flat mult is on played too

So it would actually trigger first if on the left

So it does matter

[tribal knoll]

ig for a small diff

[tribal knoll]

also try to get value from tarot cards

[calm kestrel]

Move lusty to the left of photo @static sinew

It'll go +4 x2

Instead of x2 +4

[static sinew]

Like this?

[neon wren]

chad photo photo already beats the game in 3 hands. level 4 flush does it in one. glass or steel card and it's fine for even violet vessel

[calm kestrel]

With retrigger that looks like

+4 x2 x2

• 4 x2 x2

+4 x2 x2

[calm kestrel]

Don't copy lusty

[tribal knoll]

copy the chad instead and ur good

[calm kestrel]

Yee

[tribal knoll]

yeah pretty much

neg merry andy is crazy

[calm kestrel]

Hopefully nat

-2 hand size for that would be crazy

[tribal knoll]

copia al chad y estarás bien

[calm kestrel]

(Ecto plus nat downside)

I would've probably sold Merry before ante 7 anyways tho so eh

[tribal knoll]

its pretty nice with mail in rebate or if playing flushes and ur trying to dig for specific cards

[calm kestrel]

Yeah

It's really good early game

It's just less and less useful the more your fix your deck

[tribal knoll]

oh yeah def

[calm kestrel]

I guess here it's for Delayed Grat

Suppose if the scoring is good enough you can afford keeping an econ that late

[opal tapir]

i got 3 soul cards wtf

[static sinew]

I win🥳

[calm kestrel]

Probably is 2x photo does a lot do work

[elfin tapir]

trib is good

maybe yorick for the time being too

[calm kestrel]

Only one of them were good smh

[hardy ruin]

I wish there was a vc here

[calm kestrel]

Yuh

[tribal knoll]

trib is my goat

[elfin tapir]

the trib and perkeo particle accelerator is lagging my tablet

this is good

[calm kestrel]

Chicot is good if you can find a Manacle I suppose

+1 hand size forever

Then maybe try to find a Merry Andy

To scale Yorick faster

(it'll be like you never lost any hands size at all)

[fair sapphire]

since you guys are all smart cause you're good at balatro, does anyone have a way to help me understand related rates in calc ab

[elfin tapir]

what’s ab

[fair sapphire]

calc 1

[elfin tapir]

idk what u mean by related rates

[neon wren]

it's in the name 🙂

like you're filling a 5 gallon bucket at 2 gallon/minute type stuff? I forget what specifically falls under related rate

[elfin tapir]

you basically wanna balance ur scoring jokers with retrigger jokers

and if there’s an Inbalance see what gives more score

[fair sapphire]

yeah

i dont understand how to start any of the problems

i have yet to get a single 90 on a test/quiz this year

i have failed 4 tests

[marsh hull]

Tribolet is the only legendary that isn't too complicated to use or maintain.

[neon wren]

I looked at the wiki entry, that's stuff you can just do with geometry...the examples are too easy to bother doing the calc stuff is the prob

[elfin tapir]

wait are you talking about balatro or your maths revision

[neon wren]

but I guess simple is ok for showing that stuff too

[fair sapphire]

my math but balatro players are smart

[fair sapphire]

its not geometry at all

[elfin tapir]

ohhhh

[tribal knoll]

chicot and perkeo are also pretty straightforward tho

[neon wren]

usually your textbook should have better explanations, just reread the section

(over someone doing things off top of head. doing real stuff with math...it's just not useful. it's either figure thing out logically or use more advanced stuff)

[fair sapphire]

we dont use a text book, thats the annoying part

she doesnt teach bro

she just does the problem on the board, and then moves on

[calm kestrel]

I'm actually not very good at math I'm just good at the specific type of math balatro has

Mb

[fair sapphire]

i suck at it, 240 hours and not a single gold stake pass

[calm kestrel]

Wellll I can help with gold stake

But you know it's gold stake do expect to lose a fair bit rng can be rough

[fair sapphire]

i just have terrible foresight and cant do with what i have yknow

[calm kestrel]

But there are times..

Like that once I was handed a stencil in ante one

And then got an ankh...

And then invisible..

And then a second invisible..

They were all polychrome thanks magic deck

Easiest gold stake in my life

[fair sapphire]

i love stencil

thats how i got my first e score

[calm kestrel]

I wanted the full 5 stencils the game wouldn't give it to me

Sad

[fair sapphire]

like idk how to do with what i have, when to reroll, when to take a specific joker

sometimes i make it to ante 3 with like 2 +mult jokers and realize i wasted time and need ot restart

[calm kestrel]

Well

Generally

Only spend recklessly if you're desperate

You need to make every purchase with interest in mind

[fair sapphire]

i dont know how

cause

i have no foresight

idk what goes well with right

i dont know how to link things together

[neon wren]

related rate of gain to your scoring vs scoring requirement of ante

[calm kestrel]

Max interesting cap is 25 dollars

[neon wren]

so if you learn related rates, your balatro will be better

[fair sapphire]

no i know that

i thought by interest you meant, the future

[calm kestrel]

Every 5 dolalrs is one dollar of interest

[fair sapphire]

this sounds like propaganda from my math teacher

yes

i know,

i think i failed to explain that i know the basic stuff abt the gmae

i know the prinicpals of the game, i just dont know the deeper theory of the gmae

[neon wren]

there's only a few flat mult jokers that are good enough to make it to the end for gold stake

[fair sapphire]

game

[calm kestrel]

Didn't know 25 was the cap

Tbf

[neon wren]

you generally want about 60 flat mult for ante 8

[fair sapphire]

like half joker while playing pairs?

[calm kestrel]

(unless seed money voucher)

[fair sapphire]

which raises it to 50

[neon wren]

half joker + something else is sometimes enough, usually not

plus you can't play 5 card hands (discarding cards to draw stuff that scores more)

[calm kestrel]

I mean

That number lowers with x mult which isn't hard to find

Chips are good early game if you really need them

[fair sapphire]

idk any flat mult jokers that are really good to pick up

[calm kestrel]

But you can quickly sell put of chips when you have an x mult

[neon wren]

you need 400k. say two hands, 200k each. how much chips/mult/xmult do you need to do that?

[fair sapphire]

400k chips :D

[forest wagon]

chips are always good

[calm kestrel]

There's no x chips

[forest wagon]

mult there many ways to get

[calm kestrel]

Unless you're plasma it generally isn't worth

[echo echo]

hi

[calm kestrel]

Unless you're forced to take it early

[forest wagon]

well yea, but having one or 2 chip source is xchips

[neon wren]

gold stake plasma there's only a couple chips sources that are worth...usually mult or dead

[forest wagon]

if you play without getting chips you are playing on hard mode

[calm kestrel]

Planets also make chip jokers irrelevant too

And they contribute to mult which can then be further myltiplied

[forest wagon]

sometimes

[calm kestrel]

99% of the time

[forest wagon]

no

[calm kestrel]

I generally don't have a chip joker for more than 2 antes unless it's plasma

[forest wagon]

yea then you are playing on hard mode

[neon wren]

anyway, ~1k chips x 60 mult x 3 xmult is enough to clear most gold stakes. or 500 chips x 60 mult x 6 xmult...then it's just recognizing if you can get there or not

[fair sapphire]

where am i getting 1k chips.

[neon wren]

hand levels and chips jokers

[fair sapphire]

10 brand new ice creams>

[calm kestrel]

Planets

Mostly

[forest wagon]

nowhere, but you can get 300 pretty easy

[fair sapphire]

planets increase in a linear pattern though right?

[forest wagon]

then just add a little bit of mult or xmult

[calm kestrel]

Yeah.

Most of your scoring is going to come from mult and x mult tho

They scale better

[fair sapphire]

i know this

but i think you ignored my issue

i suck with working with what i have

[forest wagon]

then

play more

git gud

[calm kestrel]

Yeah that's

[fair sapphire]

like i see some players make 5 billion score out of 2 base jokers

[calm kestrel]

Honestly an instinct issue

[fair sapphire]

like what

[calm kestrel]

I can't help with that

[forest wagon]

and dont compare with that

because thats endless and you should not care about that for winning

[calm kestrel]

Maybe compare a little bit

Watch what they're doing

[neon wren]

photo chad is exponential growth...that wins all the stakes

[calm kestrel]

I'd recommend watching Doc Spectered

He does a lot of explanatory vids

He also tends to talk throughout regular videos too explaining his thought process

Probably just a habit of his but it's helpful

[fair sapphire]

is that the guy with a phd in math

[calm kestrel]

Regardless

[calm kestrel]

Yes

Roffle is also really good but

He tends to not explain his thoughts so it's harder to follow

From a beginner perspective

[fair sapphire]

is that the nonchalant guy

[calm kestrel]

That's the sarcastic guy who records while standing

[neon wren]

maybe really good and roffle don't belong in the same sentence. though I did see him actually skip a standard pack a few weeks back, so that's improvement

[fair sapphire]

oh i know him

not personally

but i know him

[calm kestrel]

To be fair he plays more to be entertaining than always 100% correct but

[forest wagon]

really good and roffle lite dont belong yes

[calm kestrel]

He still makes mostly logical decisions

[forest wagon]

but roffle is actually a good player

[calm kestrel]

Yeah

Whatever goes on lite

Is meant purely to be entertaining

Not necessarily correct

Still

He plays that mostly logical even trying to be entertaining

mostly

Doc is the best and there's a guy who did a bunch of power points explaining basically the entire game

For learning purposes

Flare, that's the guy

[calm kestrel]

You can

Learn how to play Jokerless Black Deck Gold Stake

Good luck I expect you to do it in 6 months/j

[tribal knoll]

theres a power point for tht?

[calm kestrel]

No there's a Doc video tho

Doc can probably win the game without a deck

He'd find a way

[tribal knoll]

rarran did that i think

[calm kestrel]

I doubt that.

[tribal knoll]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5QlpxhThvI&t=843s

[calm kestrel]

Rarran of all people?

Idk

[tribal knoll]

theres someone who did something similar on gold too

start w 0 cards

[calm kestrel]

How'd we let Rarran do the first deckless

I mean shii

Rip his fingers from all that re rolling shoulda used a seed finder fr

[glad oriole]

deckless probably isnt hard u just gotta get lucky early

wait how would u even survive r1

marble?

[calm kestrel]

Doc bouta pull up with the Deckless Planetless

[calm kestrel]

Marble

Certificate

One of those two is required

[glad oriole]

cert doesnt work

[calm kestrel]

Oh wait

[glad oriole]

you die before it cam activate

[calm kestrel]

You right

Mb

I thinkkk there's 1 other joker

Still

[glad oriole]

but i think marb works cuz it activates on blind select

rather than after u draw ur hand

[calm kestrel]

With odds like that

Shoulda used a seed finder instead

That must have been agony

[glad oriole]

bur aside drom that
stone card high card scores 60 chips

so like

do we need a fool for half joker??

[calm kestrel]

We need to be playing magic for the fools

Or was it ghost

[glad oriole]

like is it arcana skip > judgement (marble) + fool judgement (halfsies)

[glad oriole]

ah

[calm kestrel]

I forgor the names I get them mixed up

[glad oriole]

i see i see

yea magic is right

[calm kestrel]

Those two specifically

I get mixed up

Idk why

[glad oriole]

but uhhm also

[tribal knoll]

yeah he did magic

[glad oriole]

since stone card hugh card scores 60*1

[tribal knoll]

and resetted until he saw a marble

[glad oriole]

couldnt plasma clear r1

[tribal knoll]

and something good

[calm kestrel]

Yes

[glad oriole]

30.5*30.5

yea that gets more than 600

i feel like plasma is a better choice

maybe

because of the insane deck

[calm kestrel]

Downside of using Plasma is everyone calls you a cheater

[glad oriole]

aside deom early game starting with nothing means your deck is mega consistent

[tribal knoll]

his line up with judgement fools is cracked tho

[calm kestrel]

YouTube comment section moment

[glad oriole]

ah yes, using a vanilla deck is cheating

makes sense to me

[calm kestrel]

Again

YouTube comment section moment

[glad oriole]

yeah

i kinda wanna try thus challenge (with a seed finder) how would i do it

[calm kestrel]

Nearly impossible challenge?

Using plasma?

Dislike

[glad oriole]

plasma isnt even the be all end all you’d still need to chips pivot

uh

mult pivot i mean

the start would just be much much more likely

[calm kestrel]

I always play mult anyways cause I can never fucking find chip jokers

They don't exist when I play plasma

For some reason

[glad oriole]

well yeah

chip jokers are less numerous than mult jokers

[calm kestrel]

Oh

But they're more than willing to show up

When I'm playing any other deck

[glad oriole]

of course ur honna see them less

[calm kestrel]

Thank you

[glad oriole]

no

[calm kestrel]

They are

[glad oriole]

thats just your brain being biased

[calm kestrel]

That's how my luck works

[glad oriole]

eh

i can assure u they appear at the same rate its just it doesnt feel like it cuz on plasma you’re actively searching for them wheras on other decks you dont

if ur actively looking for something ur gonna notice when it doesnt show ip

up

this is also why many people say the wheel is rigged

[calm kestrel]

Kina

Stop using logic I already know to be true

Let me complain

[glad oriole]

:3

[calm kestrel]

My wheel always hits polychrome or chips never mult

[tribal knoll]

you mean its not rigged?

[glad oriole]

yes

[calm kestrel]

My wheel is rigged I have Oops

[glad oriole]

it is a 1 in 4

the game doesnt lie about anything

well

except for matador

[calm kestrel]

Chicot

[glad oriole]

?

[calm kestrel]

Chicot doesn't actually disable boss blinds

[glad oriole]

yes it does

[calm kestrel]

He deserves them

[tribal knoll]

disabling isnt the same as reversing

[calm kestrel]

Reverses

[tribal knoll]

technically he does disable the boss's mechanics

[glad oriole]

chicot does in fact disable boss blinds

this only changes when you have more than one

but

[calm kestrel]

Reversing is not disabling

[glad oriole]

thats unintended

so

its not lying

just an oversight

[calm kestrel]

It is

It's not doing what it says

[glad oriole]

bruh

[calm kestrel]

It's coded to do something completely different

Than the text

It just usually has the same effect

[glad oriole]

it is not “completely different” it is effectively the exact same

💀

it always has the same effect unless you have more than 1

[calm kestrel]

No it isn't if it were there wouldn't be any chicot bugs

[glad oriole]

which is not intended like i said

[calm kestrel]

Ankh isn't intended

[glad oriole]

????

what

no i mean like the effect of having multiple chicots is probably just an oversight thunk made while programming the joker

[calm kestrel]

I took that is "you aren't intended to have multiple chicot"

Despite it being very easy to do

[glad oriole]

thunk probably didnt think of it while making chicot

hence the bug

[calm kestrel]

If it disabled boss blinds having two or more wouldn't do anything at all

Besides give you huge temperance value

Of course

[glad oriole]

dude i know

i know it reverse effects

[calm kestrel]

So

You know it lies

[glad oriole]

the point is it is supposed to be disabling

[glad oriole]

its not a lie if it works how it says it does 99% of the time

and the 1% is an oversight

[calm kestrel]

Okay if telling someone a mostly truth isn't lying is it not at least deceitful

[glad oriole]

its more like
telling you mostly truth and not knowinh that they’re partially wrong

its not meant to be deceitful

[calm kestrel]

Still is unintentionally

[glad oriole]

tbf meither is matador but unlike chicot matador just doesn work how it says it does most of the time

[calm kestrel]

You can lie unintentionally too

[glad oriole]

thats just called being wrong

not lying

[calm kestrel]

What is lying if not for being wrong

[glad oriole]

lying is intentionally telling something different than the truth often to gain something

[calm kestrel]

We wouldn't call it lying if it were correct

[glad oriole]

okay so

if i say numbers end at 100 because i dont know that they can go higher am i lying

[calm kestrel]

Yes

Also damn never played Balatro in that scenario

What a sad soul

[glad oriole]

bruh

you need to re check your definition of a lie

whatever this is stupid

[calm kestrel]

To lie is to tell someone something that isn't true

[glad oriole]

no

it is to be intentionally deceitful

by not teling the full truth

theres gotta be intent

[tribal knoll]

not necessarily

lying has like a purpose

yeah

[calm kestrel]

Also not necessarily. Lying without reason is something people do

So you can't really say it's for a gain

[glad oriole]

sometimes the reason is just impulse but its still a reason

it is KNOWINGLY being wrong

[calm kestrel]

Idk around where I am my definition is everyone's definition

[glad oriole]

sure buddy

[calm kestrel]

Chicot knows how he works he's lying to you fr fr

He has a soul after all we must assume he's sentient

[glad oriole]

chicot wuld never lie to me <3

[tribal knoll]

john balatro would be proud gz

[calm kestrel]

I'd have to actually play on an originally locked account for this

That's never happening fr

[glad oriole]

YOU HAVE NO REAL JOKERS AND WILL DIE ANTE 8

sorryp

[night fern]

This time last year i was like eh im not gonna go for it cuz ill come back when the major content is out

But then the tweet saying it’s delayed indefinitely killed me and then i came back recently cuz i got the itch

[calm kestrel]

That moment when all your jokers are hallucination

[glad oriole]

hallucination is so real though

w deckfixes

i love tarot generators

yes even 8ball

[calm kestrel]

8 ball kinda sucks

Superposition kinda sucks

[glad oriole]

8 ball is pog

super pos is like

[calm kestrel]

Hallucination is good

[glad oriole]

probably pretty okay

[brisk zinc]

stoning

[calm kestrel]

Nah it's also bad

[glad oriole]

vagabond is goated with the sauce

carto is solid

[calm kestrel]

Vagabond kills me usually

Carto is fine

[glad oriole]

skill issue

[calm kestrel]

Having no money to do anything with

[glad oriole]

purple seals are goated

[calm kestrel]

Limits your skill

[glad oriole]

wdym you literally do sfuff with the money so that you can get below 4

[calm kestrel]

Unless I have credit card I am not using dat shit

[glad oriole]

and then vagabond gets you more money

(gold card temp herm etc)

vagabond is highkey a or s tier

like

get that shit ante 1 you just win

[calm kestrel]

Rare joker that's an uncommon at best

[glad oriole]

thats funny it used to be uncommon

[calm kestrel]

It still should be

[glad oriole]

bruh

just because youre bad at using it doesnt mean its bad

[calm kestrel]

It

Does force you to limit your econ

Heavily

[glad oriole]

dude vagabond is literally a value generator it GIVES YOU MONEY

[calm kestrel]

Even despite what you said being true

You can use extra money if you make it

But it's random tarrots

[glad oriole]

you earn money for utilizing vagabond

and deckfixing

aughhh the decfixing

[calm kestrel]

Most tarrots aren't good and only sell for 1 dollar

[glad oriole]

🤤

[glad oriole]

most of them are usable

at the least

[calm kestrel]

Usable

[tribal knoll]

vagabond + purple seals and the fortune teller can go pretty crazy

credit card vagabond sounds good too

[calm kestrel]

Yeah like

[glad oriole]

fortune teller is mid but yesss purples akodoeoeorjbrbrjdiospap

[calm kestrel]

I wouldn't use Vaga without additional synergy

[glad oriole]

god deckfixing makes me so [redacted]

[calm kestrel]

I would take Hallucination however

[tribal knoll]

you're earning tarots when playing hands and discarting?

thats broken

[glad oriole]

its like a dream

tarots

mmnmn

[calm kestrel]

Hallucination I take without extra context

[glad oriole]

always crack standard packs

[calm kestrel]

Vaga I'ma need some convincing

[glad oriole]

u can can get purple and vlue seals

like

mega goated

standard packs goated

maybe im glazing too much

not ALWAYS just
when u can affird

[glad oriole]

ive beem trying to qwq

[calm kestrel]

8 ball is okaaaay

It doesn't help 8s aren't really all that good

[glad oriole]

the money restriction is usualy pretty fine

[calm kestrel]

So there's not

[glad oriole]

uhhh fibo i guess

[calm kestrel]

Much of a point

[glad oriole]

anyway 8ball is nice because it powers itself

[calm kestrel]

Fibo is alright I suppose

[glad oriole]

more 8s = more tarots = more 8s

[calm kestrel]

Usually with Fibo I'm hard focusing Aces but I could see it

[glad oriole]

the only drawback is the 1 in 4 which makes it pretty slow on avg

but like

[calm kestrel]

There's a context where it's okay

[glad oriole]

it doesnt need to have a good synergy joker

[calm kestrel]

At least

[glad oriole]

just make luckies and steels or whatever and ur scoring

level up mars

ohoho

maybe even planet x if ur feeling spicy

[calm kestrel]

Usually I just play the 8s in throw away hands

[glad oriole]

thats how u start off with 8ball

[calm kestrel]

And then play my real hand

[glad oriole]

but if u lean into it

it becomes ur realhamd

[calm kestrel]

I never lean into it I almost always find something better

Tbf

[glad oriole]

u just gotta trust the process

[calm kestrel]

I can't trust the process the game gave me a baron mb

[glad oriole]

baron is shot

shit

baron fans when they cant get 500 kings in the span of 6 antes and die to the flint

[calm kestrel]

You're basically incentivized to make face cards in this game

[glad oriole]

not rly

[calm kestrel]

There's so many face card synergy jokers

[glad oriole]

the game literaly has a boss blind to deter you from face builds

[calm kestrel]

It's just a good play

And most jokers don't care about rank

[calm kestrel]

A single boss how scary

[glad oriole]

its not a good play because most joekrs dont care abot rank

[calm kestrel]

And out of the ones that doo

Face cards have the best synergy

[glad oriole]

you say that but its a risk and its realy not worth risking that in everybsingle run

[glad oriole]

nah 8s are better because 8ball frfrfr

and

9s

because cloud 9

highkey solid joker

[calm kestrel]

Me when my entire deck is 9s

[glad oriole]

i guess

it doesnt need to be

[tribal knoll]

is eternal riff raff good

[calm kestrel]

If it's early

[glad oriole]

if its really early in the run yeah

[calm kestrel]

And not painted

[glad oriole]

w jokers

mehehhh even on painted maybe

[calm kestrel]

Simply get photo chad

[glad oriole]

like riff raff is awesome

[glad oriole]

oh my god bruh

its not all photo chad

[calm kestrel]

I know

But it is really strong tbf

[glad oriole]

photochad fans when i smash their ribcage with a crowbar

[calm kestrel]

Out of the commons

It is the best duo

[glad oriole]

the best common duo is uhh mail in rebate + drunkard

🔥

or

[calm kestrel]

Okay

Scoring combo

[glad oriole]

8 ball + hallucination

[glad oriole]

money is power

[forest wagon]

the best common duo is rebate and

[glad oriole]

rebate and anything

[calm kestrel]

Where's the synergy

[glad oriole]

w deckfixes

tarots power 8 ball

hallu powers 8 ball

8 ball powers 8 ball

[calm kestrel]

They don't synergize that much tho

[glad oriole]

they dont

but like

[nova chasm]

Femboy

[glad oriole]

hallu and 8ball are the best common tarotgens

[glad oriole]

hai

:3

[nova chasm]

Omg

[glad oriole]

superpos is cringe and doesnt even work well with 8ball my goat

yes i am femboy

meow

[nova chasm]

Waos

[glad oriole]

.^.

[calm kestrel]

Superpos is just bad

Ace is like the worst rank for straights

Lol

[glad oriole]

superpos can probably work if u lean into it but i havent gotten it to work before

[glad oriole]

this is blueth nuke

[calm kestrel]

Yeah obviously

[glad oriole]

yea aces are cringe for straights

but like

[nova chasm]

D

[glad oriole]

tarot gen

w deckfixes

[calm kestrel]

If your deck is built for it you can justify almost any joker

[tribal knoll]

ingles only amigo

[glad oriole]

not showman

also

[calm kestrel]

Showman is always justified

[glad oriole]

pareidolia gets worse the more fixed your deck is

[glad oriole]

never

never fucjing take showman in a normal run

[calm kestrel]

Bro doesn't want a second brainstorm

[glad oriole]

heis an endless only joker

[calm kestrel]

Tragic

[glad oriole]

i do but like the first step is to get one

lmfao

and even then

its super unlikely u find another

[thin glen]

Hello

[calm kestrel]

Okay

Bro doesn't want a second photograph

[glad oriole]

yeah

[nova chasm]

Ey femboy whats you think of this video

[glad oriole]

again

not very likely

[glad oriole]

idk

.^.

[calm kestrel]

... It's a common

[glad oriole]

confusinh

[glad oriole]

still

[calm kestrel]

It's fairly likely

[glad oriole]

theres a lot of commons

shitman also makes your booster packs worse

on avg

[calm kestrel]

Start digging then

[forest wagon]

double perishable photograph my goat

[glad oriole]

most ante 8 runs dont have the econ to deep roll in the shop

if they do then

tbh, you have won already

showman is winmore

[calm kestrel]

Win more is always necessary

[glad oriole]

holy canoli

not really

what we really need is loseless

thats where 8ball comes in wehehe

sorry

[calm kestrel]

There's no point in not taking win more to be fair

If you've already won

[glad oriole]

yea

like photochad is already p much a win

get a glass card if its not wnough

64x mult

[calm kestrel]

Glass is bad

Retriggering glass is bad

[glad oriole]

worst take of 2026

how is retriggering glass bad in any capacity

?????

its not like it increases the chances of breakage

[calm kestrel]

Break deck

[forest wagon]

what do you mean

[calm kestrel]

It does 1/6

1/6

1/6

[glad oriole]

no it doesnt

the 1 in 4 is calculated 1 time

[forest wagon]

...no

[glad oriole]

no matter how many times the card triggers

[calm kestrel]

Oh mb it's 1/4

Even worse

[glad oriole]

it happens after the hand is played

not during

[calm kestrel]

Okay fine maybe it doesn't

Glass still ain't worth using unless you're deck fixing and want it to break in which case you probably don't want to break face cards

[glad oriole]

i mean u can velieve glass is bad i’ll be sitting pretty with my 64x mult photochad

[calm kestrel]

Considering that's most of your scoring

[forest wagon]

I would get someone not likeing glass but how are you gonna defend photochad while trashing on glass

[glad oriole]

glass is worth using when the run is close to over and u need more scoring

exactly beuh

[calm kestrel]

I suppose

[glad oriole]

glass is so goated especially with w deckfixes

like

dna can power a glass build well

[calm kestrel]

Photo chad has been proven to be effective glass has proven to make me sad

[glad oriole]

tho dna is kinda iffy as a joker itself

it does have its merit

[calm kestrel]

DNA is goated

[glad oriole]

copying purple seals with dna 🤤 🤤 😵‍💫

[forest wagon]

yesss, dna is so good if you have some glass

[glad oriole]

just stuck it in already

stick

[glad oriole]

or purples

[calm kestrel]

DNA does make glass even usable

I'll give it that

[glad oriole]

i lowkey used to be bigoted against dna but it gave me major head
start in a multiplayer game and i won

dude im gonna get banned frm this server if i keep being so freaky 😭

[calm kestrel]

DNA is better later as opposed to earlier

[sterile crane]

alr bro ts was not the wind

[calm kestrel]

When you already have editions and seals on a card and shi

[glad oriole]

:3

[calm kestrel]

Copying a pretty regular card is sad

[glad oriole]

yeah

so just dont

smh

find urple seals to copy

[calm kestrel]

Only seal

[sterile crane]

she purple on my nurple

[calm kestrel]

Nothing else?

[glad oriole]

yes

[calm kestrel]

Not approved

[glad oriole]

purple seal is all i need on a card to make me soodoeoeowjwjnwkroot

uwuwuwuw

[calm kestrel]

Shoulda been a polychrome red seal steal king

[glad oriole]

i vomited

nanlet over here

[sterile crane]

i like to copy gold purple for endless or gold blue for ante 8 if i'm doing dna for some reason

[radiant arch]

what even are these jokers broooo

[glad oriole]

i mean even if ur going for endless it’d be better to copy purples

like beo

qwq

[tribal knoll]

thats insane

[calm kestrel]

Not really

[glad oriole]

red seals are good (for endless) but u can always get them later

[calm kestrel]

Your deck is already fixed in endless

[glad oriole]

purples are good

[calm kestrel]

You don't need purple

[tribal knoll]

thats easily like 27 mult per hand

[glad oriole]

your deck doesnt fix itsef you gotta do that part

thats why purples are so nutty

[sterile crane]

how do you fix your deck

[glad oriole]

PURPLE SEALS

[calm kestrel]

By ante 8 your deck should be atleast 80% fixed

[glad oriole]

im crine bro

[sterile crane]

white stake addict over here

[glad oriole]

ur such a nanlet i cant

[tribal knoll]

lmao

what is a nanlet

[glad oriole]

by ante 8 you should have all red seal steel kings and baron mime and 7 blueprints

[calm kestrel]

I play nothing but gold

[glad oriole]

someone who plays or watches white stake endless too much

[calm kestrel]

I ain't saying allat

[glad oriole]

i am strawmanning you for comedic effect

[calm kestrel]

I'm saying regardless of build you should be mostly fixed

[glad oriole]

not rly

[calm kestrel]

mostly

[glad oriole]

deckfixing takes time

[sterile crane]

half of the most effective builds in this game don't give a shit about deck fixing to beat ante 8

[calm kestrel]

Like you're basically garunteed to hit your hand

[glad oriole]

true

pairs

[glad oriole]

me when pairs

[sterile crane]

there's a reason pairs are so good

you don't need deck fixing

[tribal knoll]

balatro players are making up slurs now? 😭

[calm kestrel]

Pairs are mid when two pair is right there

[glad oriole]

blue seals tho 😵‍💫 😵‍💫

[sterile crane]

true true

[glad oriole]

two pair is lowkirkenuinely worse than pair im not even lying to you

[sterile crane]

that's why i spam hanged man without anything going for it

[calm kestrel]

When it both uses pair jokers and jokers that take advantage of more cards played

[sterile crane]

you play nothing but gold, you know better

[glad oriole]

less consistency for 5 more chips per kevel thats not worth it gangy gang

[calm kestrel]

The joker pool is much bigger

[glad oriole]

literaly the only joker that two pair works with that pair doesnt is spare trousers

[calm kestrel]

Pair can't take advantage of almost any joker

[glad oriole]

and even then

i’d rather run pairs with trousers

[calm kestrel]

Pair can't take advantage of stuff like suit jokers well

[glad oriole]

so i dont accidentally win when scaling the trousers

[calm kestrel]

Or stuff like that

[glad oriole]

two pairs are pretty bad at that too

[sterile crane]

right because your scoring/econ comes from suit jokers

[calm kestrel]

They're 2x better

[glad oriole]

thats not much

like

[sterile crane]

you don't make sense

[glad oriole]

the only suit jokers im running with pairs are blackboard and seeing double

[calm kestrel]

A 5 card hand is only 2.5x better at it

[glad oriole]

maybe castle if i feeling quirky at night

[sterile crane]

and pairs are better for blackboard

like

[glad oriole]

significantly yes

[calm kestrel]

Blackboard? I thought we were talking "no deck fixing"

Please tell me how you're making blackboard work

[sterile crane]

YO

[glad oriole]

you dont need deck fixing to run black board

[sterile crane]

you are not real

[glad oriole]

fun cact

play 5 cards

[sterile crane]

you need three blackboard cards to make it work

[glad oriole]

and u only need 3 blacks in ur hands

[sterile crane]

throw away three bc you're playing pairs

[glad oriole]

u start with 26 black cards that is plenty

[calm kestrel]

You need to only have spades or clubs

[sterile crane]

it's half your deck

[glad oriole]

extremely loud incorrect buzzer

[calm kestrel]

Your hand might not favor that

[glad oriole]

use your discards

[sterile crane]

what if it's........ pairs?

[calm kestrel]

Least not as consistently

[sterile crane]

it does if it's pairs

[calm kestrel]

Without deck fixing

[sterile crane]

what jokers do you use mostly

[calm kestrel]

Just as consistent for any other hand

[calm kestrel]

Don't know honestly I don't keep track

I use what I get

[sterile crane]

that's what usually happens

so you right for that

but do you know what you tend to win more with

like for me if i get early red card, grimbo, bus

[tribal knoll]

whats a good hand to play green joker with

two pair?

[sterile crane]

pairs

[tribal knoll]

if you dont have burglar

[sterile crane]

pairs

[calm kestrel]

Pair or high card

[tribal knoll]

is playing pairs really viable early game? lol

[calm kestrel]

Eeeeh

[sterile crane]

especially early game

[tribal knoll]

ngl ive been only playing flushes

[calm kestrel]

Depends on the jokers you find

[sterile crane]

ante 2 grimbo lets you play like one good hand and then pairs

to get maximum scaling

[calm kestrel]

Is there statistics on jokers in this game I gotta actually think I took a break from the game

There isn't??

Tragic

[devout idol]

ive start playing 2 weeks ago and this is my new record what it your opinion?

[calm kestrel]

My first gold ever was a pure stencil built on the deck with hex

I also tend to like Scholar

Steel is nice sometimes if I'm doing a build that doesn't play too many times

I also am a banana magnet so I end up using cavendish a lot

[abstract flicker]

boys

i am in desperate need of assistance

[glad oriole]

i like scholar too

[glad oriole]

😋

[glad oriole]

murder the scary dude

[forest wagon]

scary face or pareidolia

[tribal knoll]

scary face has to go

[abstract flicker]

scary face is real solid for plasma deck tho

[glad oriole]

not when u have photophotochadbuskin

[abstract flicker]

with sock its giving me 300 chips alone

[forest wagon]

you need chips or mult

photo is mult, so you dont need chips anymore

[glad oriole]

yeah and photo is 256x mult

[calm kestrel]

It really just depends what I'm doing but

I certainly prefer high card builds they're the most fun for me

[abstract flicker]

im just running a flush that lucked out

[tribal knoll]

well there's no x chips in this game so x mult can scale way bigger

[forest wagon]

either way it would be optimal to get rid of pare but if you cant you cant

[abstract flicker]

hmm

i think i get rid of paradolia then?

keep scary for all the chips? or

[tribal knoll]

also you even have sock

[tribal knoll]

ante 5 so you can see the plant

i believe

at that point i would get rid of pareidolia