#🎙・server-chat
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I just unlocked the plasma deck
if you have a straight flush in there tho
So I wasn’t sure if it was in the game
its guaranteed to be played every hand
But that’s what pretty rare?
You would have to hit a lot of good rng rolls
It would be rare to not have a straight or a 4 of a kind which are 2 hands that can (consistently) win off of planet levels and steel cards alone (provided you can draw the hand)
One possibly downside could be that you can never look at what your deck has
straight up mocking me bro...
You have to go completely from memory
I don’t like erratic at all because of how inconsistent I feel like it is and it’s hard to pivot in most cases.
what the fuck is that chariot bro
they lwk fire
Honestly i started playing more Balatro on my laptop instead of my ps5 and honestly I might try out some fun cosmetic mods like this
Are they hard to make yourself if you just wanna change the images?
Maybe ai can do that bit for me
lmao watching roffles stream
bean has dressed up as roffle for his livestream
can someone go ahead and ban @modern tundra? got a friend request after them not saying a word in here for like 2 months, also has an utterlly gibberish account name that was created this year
they are almost certianly doing a commision scam
<@&1133519078540185692>
the sooner you ban them the less people they are gonna be able to DM
all done good flag thank you
That's NANeINF....I said no NANeINF
Guys which one is roffle?
my first ever straight flush build,yes its white stake and abandoned deck,no i dont care
Ice Cream is finally out of lack of sticker territory
rate my pumpkin
got Yorick on Red deck ❤️
I also didn't notice the wasteful voucher right there until I posted the screenshot, this run is in the bag lol
That's foil Astronomer 🥀
🤔
@everyone may i ask what mods yall use for your art
https://cdn.steamusercontent.com/ugc/13723801040625458312/0CBAF8DDBBDF7A7A45B9BF41B22B53B89BF66ED7/
I used to hate campfire so much. It's aight I guess
Decisions decisions…
balalalakalalalalala
The one in the middle
What’s giggity giggity good my brother man
Giigggty
Balatrodle
we just got a update and i didnt notice?
jnimboo
happy halloween
nope
ah
well iirc on PC it does that weird ass ante 500 something bug, but on mobile it just pops one
sans undertale ante skip
I would have liked to have the vampire and Midas 😢
yuri...
Has anyone ever won with only one card in the deck?
Just look at that suicidal move ☠️🗣️🔥
what the fuck
tried to screenshot erosion at +208 mult but just barely missed 😔
pretty sure thats the highest u can get it
HELLO GAMERS. Is not getting C+ after finishing every gold deck a known bug?
(PC, Steam for reference)
yeah, just win another run on any deck, any stake
untrue, it has to be black deck gold stake
trust me!!
the check for the achievement and the granting of gold stake completion are in the wrong order
I do Black deck Gold Stake runs for fun
gonna have to keep that in mind for later huh?
only two Jokers I haven't stickered at all
Been trying to do seeded runs but every seeded run with wraith, the wraith just doesn’t show up. Anyone know why?
what ante 1 vagabond does to a run
First, modded or unmodded?
do i need to sell my soul to get a good run in
Unmodded
Weird. What's the seed?
E9CNXZK7
There should be a wraith on round 4 alongside the blueprint when you skip round 2
Everytime I run it it’s an aura 😭
even without spectral blocking, it was still a wraith for me
so no idea how you've gotten aura there instead
I just downloaded the game on my laptop and unblocked all decks cuz I wasn’t tryna grind them again. Would that have an effect?
nope, I'm currently using an 'unlock all' profile
not that it would do anything different anyway
Weird ash
do you have the ability to quickly record what you're doing?
I don’t have any screen recording software downloaded on my laptop
But I can take some screen shots
remember, you can be a male and still love a women like a lesbian
thats my halloween advice
Alr one moment
Thanks!
ur welcome
are you doing anything different to this? Selling/Not selling Hex and buying/not buying ankh shouldn't make any difference to the end result
Only difference is not buying the buffoon pack
alright then, what path do you take to beat the Pillar?
King an aces full house then queen and 9s full house
can you show your title screen? Probably won't make a difference but there are a few things that can tell me
Ty mate 
are you on a mac?
Balatro
is there any chance you can find your save data to send the run here? I have no idea how mac is with that sort of thing
if yes, then make a run and send the save before you enter the first blind
Idek how I would go about doing that. Would it be through the game or would I have to go into the files?
no need to apologise, I'm not familiar with mac systems at all so I wouldn't know where to start
no, the overall folder should have a few folders within it,
3 Profile folders labelled "1", "2", and "3"
a settings file, and a few others
It’s not opening up to a file, when i single click on it, it just brings me back to the game
are you clicking on the actual application file?
if so, then you are in the wrong spot
I find it especially weird that the spectral seeding seems fine for ante 1, but breaks upon entering ante 2
I even have the same next rolls for the following shop
Honestly for now I think I’m going to leave it be and head to bed
Thanks for the help, I rly appreciate it ❤️
this shop is so ass 💔
i would take them both if i could
oh okay nvm
well i guess i know what im going for
This is such a moment
Pairs and temperance cards
the egg is calling you
"this shop is ass"
looks inside
trading card
Additionally, the RNG was changed in gold stake where The Soul always creates a legendary joker you don't have a gold sticker on yet.
chat I found this on reddit
is this real?
Yes
say you gold stickered canio perkeo
finding soul will only ever give you chicot trib and yorick
It doesn’t change the way seeds play out but it changes what seeds are able to be generated when you start a new run
So if you loaded a seeded run with a perkeo seed it would still be perkeo, but you won’t see another perkeo seed* until you gold stiker the other 3 legendaries
*perkeo could still be in a second soul card if the seed has 2 I think
Girl 😭
Yes as someone who completed c++ on mobile, this is true
Yep 😔
idk cuz i haven't gotten a soul card in like weeks
My bday is on Nov 5th
4 lucky cards in my deck, would you sell fist and green joker to buy the cat?
please balatro scholars
considering photograph is an ideal 16x before your +mult, they aren't doing much in that regard
so ask if the 50 chips or the 1.5x fist are better right now
about to face the Verdant Leaf :((( probably will have to sell green joker
where did the lucky cat go 😭
stayed on the bench lol
finally some good highlight, black deck's really a pain in the ass

God shows us treasures we cannot obtain
yo idk where to ask but how do i fix my achivements not showing up
i beat all the challanges but i dont have any of the achivments for it
beat a white stake run and maybe it shows up?
Vagabond based
Balala balales
Been playing Umamusume for most of the night and I get a little tired of that so I go and try this balatro mod I've been seeing called Hot Potato and damn it im just playing Umamusume again
hello pr
pr
Looks inside
umamusume
Reading that this mechanic was inspired by Umamusume and then having the UI elements for it literally just be Umamusume left me stunned I dont even know why
decently fun black deck gold stake run, sold abstract for the boss (nat negative from riff raff) passed on chad twice because I felt like it, and idol hit J 
Balatrodle
How do you, and what do you, tag in order to report a bug?
@mellow crown
sorry
<@&1133519078540185692>
accidentally pinged someone random when pressing tab to auto select @ mods
First search around in #1200105253559873707 to see if you can find the same or similar bug, to avoid duplicate posts,
If you can't find anything related, make a new post detailing exactly what happened and if possible any related context surrounding the issue
If you don't see the bug, how do you tag Apple Arcade?
find this drop-down menu
TIL there is two different kinds of Mult
+X mult and X* mult
I never knew and always completely discarded those lame jokers and steel cards
(I have like 40h of playtime...)
NAT NEGATIVE bananer
One guess balatrordle run
man I just wanna play sum Balatro why it gotta be 13 bucks😭
German
Nabbed my first black deck win. Didn't make it far into endless but this is one of the funnest loadouts I've ever played with.
There isn’t a Joker that gains XX Mult…
why is photochad considered so good if it's just x8 mult
Relatively easy x8 mult I think
Also easily stackable with +mult like smiley face etc
ohh it's just the ease of getting it
MERRY CHRISTMAS BALATRO!!
both common jokers
two common jokers, both can be generated by riff-raff and easy to find in shop
with some planet cards, it can easily clear the first 8 ante
oh
how do people reliably build pairs
like pairs don't get you through the first few antes but every run I see uses em
Thats early.
It’s not
Its 1st november.
Boom
And so? Almost Christmas!
Cmon darth Vader I know you have jolly spirit
Please darth be a little jolly
I dont like christmas.
Whyyyyy :(
X2
THE HELL DO I DO???
IF I DONT PLAY TWO PAIR IM DEAD
either i lose the run or lose $301
I've never seen this
shouldve rolled
i dont got boss reroll 😭
🏳️⚧️
Smash that like button if we heart immolate
Immolate sucks ass 8 ball is better
Legendary joker lore is crazy
Canio lore
Hello vanillatro fans
Hi sigma
Hit the fucking bus
I thought photograph was good here.
how photochad when you took bus earlier

I'm jonkling it 🤝

I probably should’ve been paying attention to the boss blind
Yep same
Reading the boss blind explains the boss blind
Balatrodle
I got bailed out by a bunch of lucky lucky card hits so it’s all good now
Im happy now
Bang
Because i have always problems to find a good gift and when i dont have a gift I fell terrible all christmas.
first legendary chat
W that’s the first legendary I got too!
perfect synergy too
It's not even lunchtime yet and I already gold staked Magic deck!
Guess I have time for another deck today
how tf did u do thattttt
I happened to be building around aces of hearts and I cut out all the rest of my cards later on and idol showed up
negative Luchador ._. bruh
The ONE
ONE TIME
i go for face cards
Its the plant
Ofcourse
Why wouldnt it be
Fuck you game
the humble justice:
confirmation bias
they never said they were running photochad
I was running scary face
Useless deck without it
And i burned half of my non face cards
Atp
ok thats just a weird choice of build then
pls updat
I loove
When game
Gives
Turn one polychrome
On a useful joke
Yeah actually i DIDNT want a bulgler on my black deck
Right it would be BAD
FUCK YOU game
ok thats so real tho
especially when this game likes to play games in ur face. I was doing a run where i had like 5 spades right?
These fucking comedians showed me wrathful in the first pack like it was funny
real
and i crashed out about that for 2 days straight

I was PISSED
im gonna steal ur luck ok?
@obsidian lodge
THIS IS A RANDKM SEED WHAT
???
is this winning run
ante 2 yuri
negative Jimbo? the run is saved
As it turns out, he saved my ass
what does plasma deck do
it maybe do something idk
OWAH ITS GOOD
it isn't
it’s not?
Its a fun deck
Plasma deck white stake is smiley face
Plasma deck gold stake is scary face
2.4m violet vessel is my sleep paralysis demon
I love the sound it makes when it makes the chips and multi balanced
what’s the best deck to win
Blue, yellow, and abandoned are wicked consistent
Then there are 7-8 pretty good but probably more subjectively fun ones and 4-5 stinkers
why abandoned
smaller deck size makes it easier to go for pretty much every poker hand
double bus
ok i’m on a random seed, back to back soul arcanas in shop
do i give up perkeo for chance of trib
what do i do
let me see ante info
and your deck?
per hand?
no
planet levels are all 1 or what
yes
I'd take bp, no great dna targets and plenty of time to earn for os+
which you'll want
I didn't read that right you very likely died lol
yall this good
skips could have been shops hunting for luchador and sock but it's pretty good for non plas, all relative
unless you rolled down enough you hit $20 rerolls lol
what's the seed
nat negative sixth sense my goat
i dont think i got it but this one is so good RNRULBL8
also a trib seed?
nice
ya
could a flush five be made with four fingers with only four cards being the same suit?
I'd think so but I'm not too sure
I believe so
i think so
this is so useful!
ya
gift card, lots of good things
yeah
I just read it on the wiki lol
The humble reroll voucher:
It is?
ya
am i cooked?
yes
unless your flush five is level 400+ yes
I just beat black stake, thx to yorick
Just wanted a silly lucky cat run bro how have I not found one 😭
have you added any to your deck yet /s
Nah haven’t gotten lucky enough to trigger any lucky cards yet
F2AXGQ52
So...should I sell certificate for the invisible joker? (This could be a blueprint)(I don't speak english, sorry for any mistake)
(Glass Flush Five build)
holo builds aren't my forte idk
It balances your mult and chips
but the base blinds r x2
so instead of 300 on the first small blind, you have to score 900
i thinkies
i dont play it that often
I only play it when I want challenge time
like right now
🇨🇱
not 900
egg
I can't do math guys
Me caen. Mallll todossss
anyone else noticing a massive influx lately of spam accounts randomly adding them off this server in particular? or just generally other major game-related servers out there?
had two or three such random adds off of here just in the last 5 minutes
no, not really
perhaps I'm just that repulsive 
Nah I’ve had it happen less lately. It’s probably just completely random who they decide to add and message
how the hell do you build to this 😭 insane though
ummm
insane rng
im highkey backseating the stream lol
I just had a cavendish go extinct on me the round after I fucking bought it
imma be fr gang i ain't even know that shit was possible in balatro
i just two pair maxx and pray
i feel like this when i do a ride the bus run
being freed from the shackles of face cards
he strikes again
any italians here?
Probably in the italian chat
Is the Italian chat in the room with us?
Ye
Hey
ur italian?
congrats
so question
Blueprint joker copies the joker to the right
but what does Brainstorm mean by leftmost?
also is that right most or like right to the joker?
Here brainstorm copies red card
yes

If it were a blueprint instead it would be copying constellation
roger
https://cdn.steamusercontent.com/ugc/14711154947794248558/8793F03DD46B7C2C6344795F86F9442D486CF670/
Chat I literally did the Roffle blunder and still won
I beat the Jokerless challenge!
How
Level 28 Flush
I got a Gold Blue seal in like... Ante 2
And then Deathed it right after
Lucky.
Sharp
Very, I've been at this challenge for like... 3 weeks now
Be careful, don't cut yourself now
Seeded or unseeded
Unseeded
Good
Double invis joker
Both hit the card sharp lmao
Can someone please give me the modding community thing
Channels and Roles
should be above the Info category
Thank you
sharper
Thank you buddy! This helped me alot 🌞!
Get ceremonial dagger so it can be sharpest
card sharp be like “i have my whole life ahead of me!”
no you dont The Eye is coming 😂 😂 😂
how do i remove him
he came
That’s how I play too
Hi!
oh god its evil sans
Do you know this guy?
HIM
guys have a lot of ppl got naneif or not that much
I think a small percentage people actually try to get it
Hello everyone
quite a few people have dine it
its not super hard just lots of rng needed
Hi everyone:)
Haiii
Am play balatro in my phone:)
oh ok

No meme channel
skill issue
Finished Yellow deck. Gold sticker on Scholar and Sixth Sense
Only one deck to go! Abandoned
you dont
The arg of RBLX character
noah.we.have.to.gamble. ("🤑") ("🎰")

("
")
6 7
GAHHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAAHAAA
Went as jimbo for halloween
Mrs Bones spotted
Saw announcements and thought maybe an update on the update then realized it woudnt be before even clicking on it since local thunk is a fuckin bum
b*m is a bad word >:0
+4 multing my jimbo to this, insane cosplay:D
cool!!!
I am bad to the bone
need some help with the mods
Error
wrapped_main:3035: stack overflow
imm failed to disable mods: imm.lib.constructor
Traceback
[love "callbacks.lua"]:228: in function 'handler'
wrapped_main:3035: in function 'gameset_render_settingsRef'
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wrapped_main:3035: in function 'gameset_render_settingsRef'
wrapped_main:8914: in function 'set_render_settings'
game.lua:163: in function 'start_up'
wrapped_main:92: in function 'loveload'
main.lua:12306: in function 'load'
wrapped_main:34: in function <wrapped_main:33>
[C]: in function 'xpcall'
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ask in #⚙・modding-general for issues with modding the game
Goated
Erm 🤓 ☝️ #⚙・modding-general
you can, #🕹・game-discussion and #🎙・server-chat are basically interchangeable
I thought that was the commercial Jimbo
coolest thing ever!!
i finally beat my first game using red deck ( i been playing it for 2 days)
Congrats 😄
Thanks!!!
nicee
Ugh
guys play my mod
Idk whether to get vagabond or mega spectral
mega and use ankh on banana 🤔
but rlly, i think vaga will be better overall
vagabond is guaranteed value with the 2 fools currently
but you can like
find immolate in there os smth
Yea i got vagabond but i lost
I was playing stupidly kinda
Two bananas wouldnt make sense
one banana goes extinct and you have michael and cavendish
just play high card into flush
or something
you mean to tell me you found NO empress, hierophant or priestess?
Antes
Ye
OMG
I'm jonkling it ⏰
hi
what is going on here
its nnn man
Holy clutch
oh wow
Grimbo does it again
thats insane
did you wake her up
what should i sell for the trading card
Yorick my goat
sell oops, what is it doing?
oop
yorick my beloved
lucky cards
I js remembered I'm on the wrong account
@velvet hill tis my main
lucky cards shouldnt be your only source of mult gain i feel
Yorick is my goat
you need scalable plus mult and some sort of chips source
Makes gold stake a walk in the park lowk
invest in bonus cards more if you can, since those are guaranteed chip gain (to start with)
so real
castle and yorick have insanely good synergy
Honestly the trading card is bad synergy for the yorick
Those mults are more worth it than 3 dollars
it depends on if you want deck fixing i suppose
i needa deck fix badly
im selling oops
i lost
i sold tribe for lucky cat
whyyyyyy😭😭😭😭😭😭
Sup y’all
what
you
ya
Im Evil sans
You are not kool

i am cool
No you don't
yu hu
na i said it 1st so im cooler
I want an apple
🍎
feel the stink of betrayal
as cruel as steel and bullets
deadly sin as a weapon
-# blame luke
Thx
np
So...
ummm
Glass Polychrome Flush Five build
dang
???
hi i have 24 hours of playtime in 3 days and i unlocked all the decks and now working on stakes. currently have orange stake on blue deck, game is insanely addictive!
yep im on 128 hrs
wow damn which deck was the hardest for u
hmmmm you mean stake ?
i mean which deck took u the most time to get all gold stakes
oh
prob painted it was boring so i dint want to do it T T
ohh i havent played on this deck yet iirc
black deck is hardest imo, once you get to blue stake the fact you **__have to __**have something good online quickly is just exacerbated
ya thats fair
i think i only played the colored ones like red black green etc. decks like spectral or plasma havent touched them yet
seems like it when i saw that -1
my favroit deck is anaglyph
also, joining this discord made me realize im only scratching the surface on what this game has to offer because ive literally seen others achieve scores up to trillions, even something like e20 something like that
i dont realy like plasma sens its kinda boring sens all i need is a high card a a stuntman
ya i feel you
haven’t played this one yet i’ll let u know lol currently on a break rn for playing too much of this game 😆
hi guys sorry if i'll be vague but does anyone know the name of a modpack that was supposed to come out 26th october iirc. Its a vanilla-esque modpack and it had a lot of mods inside like prism
the deeper you search the deeper the ice berg gets
-# blame luke
twin ✌️
alr tust you will like it
twin
bet 😹
plasma is what pepole with completionst ++ use
-# spam chip scaling and you win
its time
your late
ya
srry
:(
nice try
better luck next year
why is sans and Mariah Carey gambling
balatro
balatro
-# balatro
Its not go back to the cave.
He been jonkler everyday for few months now.
well he already lost ig
how good would a joker that disables the downside of the joker to the right be
Balatro balatrez
for example playing your most played hand on obelisk it still provides the xmult but not resetting
legendary? rare?
is obelisk good
yes
what it do
gains .2x mult when you play a hand thats not your most played
resets to 1x otherwise
what rarity would it be
depends on who you ask
they'll tell you it's either absolutely horrid or a hidden gem
there's no in-between
prolly legendary, just cause its so variable
Still, most jokers don't have downsides and it also uses a slot
It's like chicot but for jokers and a little worse
balunkle

can a fella get a single retrigger goddamn
bought showman next pull another brainstorm
depends.
if you can get it early, yeah, it can be good.
for many players, myself included, it's just a little too annoying to work with :P
first person to send a screenshot of a glass 4 of spades wins uhhh idk
Time to kill showman ig
went for a big number gonna quit the save
its hard trying to reach naninf
havent gotten it without a set seed yet
Many retriggers you need
Red seal, glass, a lot
ye and way more joker slots
dont think i could do it with xmult per card played with 6 jokers
even if i was on plasma with 5 red seals glass poly
ehh
you need baron mime
barring some crazy set seed shenanigans/perkeo
A wow a free negative, i wonder what i'll ge
Opens pack
One of the absolutely worst jokers for my deck
naneinf with a retrigger build unseeded is so freaking impossible
Should i take the soul?
You’re not just cooking me right
X8 mult for first played face cards
Google jt
i beat balatro
Ill trust you
Photo+chad is one of thr best combos in the gsme
This deck is so ass
I might lose with it
Ngl
If i dont get some planet cards asap
But it works
Ty
I got the plushie lol
he's right, photochad with red seal/photo & buskin with red seal is really good and is practically a guaranteed win for your get to ante 8 games
it's really boring tho
you have to get +mult that triggers when playing cards tho or like
the number is gonna be laaaame
I greeded
I solf my mult
For a burned joker
Just
One
Just one turn if i survived
I wouldve went nuclear
🥲
I’m putting down the game
I cooked 4 good runs today
Its not my day today
ok so
I was only 2k chip off
if you aren't one shotting blinds with considerable space to work with
don't sell your scoring jokers
planet pack
If i didn’t get unlucky on discord twice in a row and had to use one of my plays to roll for a full house
Its what cooked me
Im playing black deck
Some days you be popping off
And some days i somehow cook a 4 fingers runner 12 mult build
(Today)
I honestly still dont know why that one got cooked
I was doing planet boss but like
I did my second hand as a straight? Idk must’ve seen it wrong
yeah
is black hole rare
very
I got it
its as rare as soul
I wish I got soul instead
for chance of perkeo or trib cuz in that run I got 2 poly mimes
whats the best website to play balatro for free
none <3
they all suck just buy the game sng
smh
what is the ideal amount of money to hold for this challenge
oh
alr thx
just play low econ
it's white stake
you can try to play jokers that gaves you money after round and then spended all before next round
like Golden joker, Rocket, 9 cloud, etc.
ohh wise c++ how to jokerless
idk any
they are all just ports bro
don't buy jokers
it's not as easy as it sounds
if it was I wouldn't be here sherlock
aint that the fun part
😭 ✌️
time for my last last resort
-# youtube
or just actually think about what I am doing-
you need jokerless help?
How
Nice
I’m broke and can’t get the balatro app so I’m stuck with the laggy scratch version
My phone keeps shitting itself
idk why people enjoy announcing this kind of thing, lol.
Can we not send gifs?
just copy the steam version or soemthing dud
it ran on my 8y phone
barely but still
To “never walk alone”
?
Liverpool
Oh
any people from uk here?
I’m on the other side of the earth
thank god im not from the uk
Same
Mine?
holy
its more ridiculous than it sounds
what the FUCK lol
Is that all kings?
I know how but not.. really?
other than visual
yes
bean exploit
Could you send the seed?
back to back perfect beans each 8 antes?
yea i missed once
i guess twice because i didnt get the second -1 ante voucher
i only set up 1 correctly
dumb mistake
i'd have to find my old save file and kill myself
i dont feel like doing that rn tho
maybe ill send you it some other time
i kept making saves just in case the game gets bricked
you have to do a lot of backing out
and sometimes it just doesnt wanna work
NOOOO
MY BROTHER ERASED MY SAVE
my 100% save
Brooooooooo
I gold staked ever joker and deck
Bro
lolz

I'm jonkling it 🗻
solved it
anti 1 brainstorm
*ante
its in shop 2 so yes, you can afford it on gold stake whatever deck as long as you beat the small blind in one hand and open the jimbo pack for a jimbo
oh wow, i didn't know it was actually a maze that could be solved
but it does make sense
almost said "why isn't brainstorm copying chicot" 💔💔
nice
i tried. 😭 i forgot.
bro no way another double legendary seed
what was it
nope, just running a 2's deck
you can see wee there
my god
oh you're growing your wee
im sorry chichot your time has come
thank you king
🙏
(yes i did check the boss blind, cerulen shouldnt be that bad
shout out to ride the bus for carrying me
5VINBWIP
shop 2 brainstorm + 2 soul cards
at what ante do ranks stop mattering (other than like jokers that activate on specific ranks)
