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This much dmg in one hit am I able to beat the boss
sorry yap mode is on
nice
holy shit the most clapped roster in history
xmult....a dream of generations past
you gotta x your mult man
brainstorm doesn't copy editions
so it's only getting the chips from the joker itself
you should copy abstract here if anything
I'm jonkling 🙈
Oh but what about the chips
Aren’t more chips important
not really!
Oh
if you have 100 chips in your hand
and 10 mult
10 mult does the same as 100 chips
and 100 chips is much harder to get
like from jokers
usually the best play is to just get your base mult from levels after the early antes
So do I put abstract in front and devious second
Yeah
since brainstorm doesnt copy the 10 from the holo edition it is objectively better
to copy abstract
but in next shop you really gotta roll for any kind of xmult
that you can actually utilize
Wdym xmult
Sorry I am new to the game
Doesn’t brainstorm do that
ok so imagine you're playing a base level flush with 4x mult
you have a joker that gives you a flat 10x mult
That’s 40
nah that's 14
and if you copy it with the brainstorm that's 24
Balatro balatrin
but if you mult the mult instead you can beat it with just a 4x mult joker
wow this sounds fucking unintelligble
holy shit
ok wait im off 3 beers and funkytown has been playing on loop for this many seconds
so multiplying usually ends up wit h more because it's recursive
So if I left click it won’t shuffle?
if you click and you grab it really fast then no
it's bascially a pro tactic
but if you just play 1 hand inside the blind and look which one gves you 15x
that's the abstract
nah right after you click select
it's unironically a super turbo nerd strat
that only losers do to optimize their lame ass naninf runs
me
I don’t think it worked 😭
ehhh just play a hand and look for th e 15
YO I CAN MAKE A STRAIGHT RIGHT OFF THE BAT 💀
Soy nuevo el balatro
to find the abstract
balaussy
In chill
73k dmg from one straight
And I won gg
gg
3rd win ever and 3rd win of the day
whgat deck was it
😀
😄
yeah conveniently LACKING A PICTURE OF THE DECK
Oh u mean like the cards that I got when I pressed select
soo true
no
maybe yeah
idk
fuck it imma go sleep
the Big Rectangle in the Bottom Right
Oh
where your cards come from and shiye
I didn’t buy any card packs 💀
I know I have to for some jokers though
I only got the celestial ones
no like the deck you selected at the start
like red deck blue deck ghost deck plasma deck
Ohhhh the yellow deck
what color is the bottom right card, blue or red?
oh
okay
I’ve won on red, blue, and yellow so far first wins I’ve ever gotten in this game all 3 today
Primary Color Type Guy
tha'ts actulaly impressive
ok the 3 pillars of balatro are
econ
econ
and uhhhh
econ
as soon as you figure out that and how to choose your jokers right you are going to win basically every run
It is? Bri I’ve never played actual poker if I did like barely I knew no hands and started the game on like Sunday 😭
basically
flat mult cards like abstract are good in the early game (>ante 4)
but by then you should have leveled the hands you're playing enough to be able to pivot to xmult jokers
which multiply the multiplier you have in your hand
hand level is important because many jokers as well as glass score before jokers are taken into account
so if you have a glass card with a base 4x mult and a joker with 10x you'll only have 18 instead of 28
Idk what u mean by multiply your multiplier what cards do that
and after a while chips really just stop to matter because mult gets so stupid high
There are + mult jokers and there are x mult jokers
lucky cat, constellation, card sharp, drivers license, triboulet, baron, steel/glass card
about a third of the scoring jokers are dedicated to each
+chips +mult and xmult
I think the only one of those I have is card sharp 💀
you have much more than you think
economy is so so important because it lets you broaden your options
one reroll lets you look at another 3 jokers
with enough money you can set up the perfect joker roster for your build
and most of the jonklers in this game aren't actually "locked" locked they're just undiscovered
Oh constellation is the planet card one?
But how does that multiply a multiplier though. Does it multiply the planet cards or your chips
constellation self synergizes by getting stronger the same way your hands do
it multiplies the red number
Oh I get those all the time and never buy them 💀
Oh that’s op
yes it is!
it gets complicated when you take retriggers into account but you'll pick it up over time
you should watch this dude roffle on youtube/twitch
I definitely pref constellation but it costs a lot of $$$$
he's in the middle of a balatro competitive tournament if you can believe such a thing exists
and is pretty good at the game
That exists?
drspectred is better at the game but roffle is more fun to watch
yeah there's a multiplayer mod it's a whole thing
but yeah either way he's really good
and if you watch a few of his runs once you start to understand the decisions he makes you'll just automatically be way way better at the game
it's like learning a useful skill like coding or an instrument
but uh
balatro
god fuck this
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check this out if you wanna go to SCHOOL baby
im outta here
What are some easy jokers to get? I only got 113 I’m missing like so many I feel like
my game crashed and i think steam overwrote my save file, lost all progress and got put back into the tutorial
bit upsetting since i was working towards getting c+
tried replacing jkr files from steam cloud but that didnt work
anything else i can try?
i have a question whats the earliest possible naneinf
It can be like a god seed or something but what would be the round or ante the seed gets a naneinf
got my 3rd win!
What is the highest e before naneinf
307
That’s awesome
I want to cry about it
green joker so underrated
2 photographs no chad?
Yo
Oooh
I can give the idea
Revert code card?
Deranks 1 card (like for example you are going for a baron build so you use rewind on an ace, making it a king)
Or wee build
2 into A strat
?
Just played the easiest gold stake/ fastest gold stake I’ve ever played
W
Rocket ante 1 stuntman black board flash card and blueprint ante 3 and then ecto and invis ante 4
Didn’t even have to think
Is my idea bad tho?
Picked up the HTR towards the end cuz it was the last rare gold sticker I needed on this save
👍 
What idea? Deranking cards?
I’ve been thinking how useful something like that would be 100%
Would it be a joker?
Or a spectral
Or tarot
Tarot
discard a royal flush for brainstorm
Joked up Carding It. And by it! Ratatataahahagahahooo! I mean my Balala.
GET OUT!!!
Bro what?
It's a incredibly overpowered joker
What
Its fallout
I don't find it
can u do mods on balatro with xbox pc
somethings wrong with my balatro
did you input a seed?
@rancid mica
No
I’ve heard that it’s a somewhat common mobile glitch but ts pmo
Nah that's just your screen
Completely normal
ah ok
All jokes aside it looks cool
uno balatro
As far as I'm aware, don't think Lovely has that yet
woah wait i have something for this
I wish I had bought it on PC I'd use so many mods 😭
uno
can't buy balatro 🥀
but balatro
use special cards as jokers
Average abandoned deck run
haha
it looks like the game just crashed
its crashing constantly
Naneinf?
did you fuck with the files?
Verify game files if on steam
naneinfed the game files ☠️
did you get naneinf and then reload the save
that causes an unavoidable crash that only goes away if you start a new run
🪦
daaamn
Forgot that's a thing
That'd do it
yeah, it doesn't happen if you naneinf and continue playing normally, only if you reload the save
definitely the less bad save reload softlock
another reason endless sucks
D:
<@&1133519078540185692> ?
<@&1133519078540185692>
get this shit outta here
<@&1133519078540185692>
what on earth
they don't need 3 pings
Ty mods 🫃
They get pinged 3 times usually anyways when there's a bot
They're used to it
Server chat, game discussion and off topic 
I’d rather get multiple than none
fish?
I will never, ever complain about good mod pings and none of the other mods will either
mmmm yes
Nowadays even thunk is a shooter cause of chill chat

your pfp tricks me help
He's a what
Shooter
A what
Shootin' bots
i have no pfp
it's see-through
a blank png

A what
I keep thinking that it's still loading
You're a wizard harry
ah i see
i am the discord background
i am the wall
yeah
The ones for being a nitro sub for a long time
I have those
Like the emerald one on my profile
I have those and I'm on mobile
💔
the soul count
Do you just like skip 90% of spectral packs lmao
Burnana:)
Steel king naneinf
Weak
Sure but soul shouldn’t be that high lol
Bornana as well:)
If all they do is reset
It will be
actually im not played that much
Seeded runs add to these stats
photochad 🤤
But they can’t cause unlocks
Ah ok
Gros Michel:D
Break time over 😔 back to slaving away for a corporation
Basic B Behavior
eris🥹
Why hanging chad doesnt retrigger red seals?
okay bro
it only gives additional triggers
Because it would be even more op and would be removed immediately
Not a single retrigger does red seals
Retriggers don't proc retriggers
so then it just wouldnt retrigger the red seal
also lynn i saw ur message earlier but i would love to have mods instead of me just getting it on steam
why chad do not retrigger sock like 1 trigger from chad 1 from sock second from chad and regtiggering card meaning sock can retrigger again cause re re re re like go from zero errase your past to protect future
its like here we go again
Yeah, recursion and inf loops is also a problem
Retriggers don't retrigger retriggers
Think of scoring the card and playing the card as separate actions
Weak
in normal world 2 chads would retrigger same card infinitely
🥹
retriggering retrigger and again again and again
What’s the play? I was thinking skip it because I got an early gift card so 40/50 temperance value is from the two Perkolators. I can always get a brainstorm when I have a slot right?
Hanging chad just gives the card +2 triggers, red seal gives +1, it's not playing the whole card again
what
get out of perkeo
you can copy perkeo with brainstorm
Selling a perkeo nukes my Econ because my deck isn’t very fixed yet so I’m still relying on copying temperance
bro
you can copy perkeo
with brainstorm
Because my perkeos are both worth $20 and everything else is worth 4 or 5
and get same value
🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
Jk I know that but my other jokers have like 0 sell value
after
Recursive retriggers wouldn't necessarily be an infinite loop but it would make recursive setups pretty much mandatory for anything with retriggers
I'm having trouble with getting mods to work, I have the error code, is anyone able to help me
you rolled hard
maybe here
thanks
you should go to modding chat
thank you
I could see a modded joker allowing retriggers to retrigger other retriggers, but it wouldn't be very vanilla
I didn't see it
Bro I can’t beat the black or green deck 😭
it definitely takes time. I picked up balatro just recently and after spending some time with it, and getting more jokers, black deck is a lot easier for me now
Well gg
Black deck is the most miserable experience anyone can possibly put themselves through. I promise you after blue stake it gets so much worse
After the blue stake rework when 1.1 comes out everything will be fine though 
Bro I have like 120 jokers
Im trying to get chips but I swear all it’s giving me is like xmult but no mults or chips ever the rng is crazy
No planets?
yeah im not looking forward to it
just got past the first few stakes
this game is trolling me
blue stake makes everything much worse
even 2 pair
a few days of lots of luck and high scores but today i shall win nothing
i hate 2 pair cause there's alot of situations when im not be able do draw second pair
that is what jimbo declares
“HOW THE FUCK DOES THE EARTH DIE TWICE?”
i dont mind hard stakes tho really. still learning all the mechanics of the game and stuff. have less than 100 hours still
All I get is tarot cards and tarot jokers bro 💀
Best of luck goat. I’ll occasionally just try it just for fun (I only play gold stake unless I’m going for high scores deliberately) and I just can’t win and give up
banana banana banana
terracotta pie
balatro of a down?
to start? wow, a 1 in e20some for that
which do i take?
If only, it was a lot of kings to start (I think 9) but I got a lucky ouija and a few deaths
Hologram imo, scales slower but allows for more possible jokers
Like madness kinda just requires you to have all eternal
hello world i joined to ask are custom skins a thing in this game?
on point
no not custom but there are some that you can change them too sorry read that too quick lol
(without mods)
ok then followup question, are there artist that i could commission to make a set of 3 face skins ?
yeah i noticed that, slay the princess's is pretty neat
probably i am not a mod expert
there is a channel for that yeah? i think it is hidden though
I would probably ask a pixel artist, but if you explain them how the card art works, then it should be okay.
neat thanks
To be honest, you don't even need a mod you can just replace a friends of jimbo file
amazing buffon
still need someone to draw my cards
im no artist
this
like figure out how to do it yourself
so finding someone not related to balatro?
It's just art
true
but yea figure out how to do it yourself and then explain what you need to an artist and bamn, damn and another word that rhymes, you got custom card art
Bro I can’t win white stake on black deck I’m actually raging rn
chiclet is my favorite
Very good very good
didnt take the baron, 2 shops later i see a mime 😭
tbf i only have 8 kings in my deck
wtf is this
Don’t get it
You gotta stay focused
On photochad gameplay
Rn I have one too, it’s fire
rip photochad 😔
The fuck is this shop
rare skip with anglyph deck
I see
All fun and games until a certain photosynthetic organism comes.
dont remind me of that
Hello people I just joined this server cause I made this. The question is, should I crochet a tiny little eternal sticker as well
ive had 2 baromimes disabled right when i got them online
My mother in law
That wench.....
God help us
rental eternal sticker
I don’t think I would have room tbh but I’ll try
negative egg pal?
Ante 5 on Green Deck and I’ve only saw one mult card and no x mult in the shop wow nice rng
Also only one chip card
That’s actually a really good idea
holy shit egg is actually goated
fr
i thought it was useless
i first tried omellete challenge cuz i got swash like 2nd shop
yes you should
The only issue with adding an eternal sticker is that if this plush gains value than I won’t be able to sell it
can sell that for a few thousand in a year probably
the most valuable egg to cherish
the tooth, huh? more like, Wario
you get it?
because
Wario is greedy
and uh
the boss blind have W on it
please laugh
@slim junco
hi guys
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKK
I WAS SO CLOSE WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Learning moment. Now you can come back even stronger next time
how old do you think am i
9?
Nah I'm pushing out positive vibes. You got this
it's 4am i better sleep now
or play more balatro for half an hour
or more
There's always time for 1 more right?
tbh i think not
i'll turn off the pc js give me a second
i don't understand how could someone get ALL the marks for ALL the jokers
like how
i like painted deck
a man rather be rich than being alive
-ayoub
i have red seal kings so it should be slightly more optimal for me to sell the photograph for this chad, right?
imagine if balatro was a board game
Damn
Hi! Did anyone here also make a Balatro board game, or am I the only one?
share?
Give me a minute
Hey can someone help me unlock plasma deck i've been stuck for the oast 12 days and i couldn't get it
what deck are you trying to beat at blue stake
No im still at orange stake green deck
then how do you not have plasma deck unlocked
Idk tbh
plasma's unlock condition is a blue stake win
Oh that explains
I legit just wanted to join this server just to say that I appreciate this game a lot I’ve been going through a lot in my life and this game has helped me unwind a lot so thank you localthunk, alright bye!
I have been red deck and green one no blue
blue stake, not deck.
stake is the difficulty
Oh
These are just the jokers, I also made the consumables.
Are you free to get on vc ?
i am not
Okay srry for the bother then
put the avilities on the back
Most of them are the same as the game, but the ones that aren't there are descriptions in Spanish.
are those jokers from the bunco mod
Some, I also put jokers from other mods
i see that! nice
Thanks
damn, i just realized i already have 80 hours in balatro across pc and when i played it on xbox with gamepass for a bit, all within the span of around 2 months
that might be the most i've put into a game in that period of time, this game is genuinely so addicting
I legit just got photochad in a single shop
Dont have space for it tho
Today was legendary for me because I got a new PR by a GOOD margin
From e42 to e70
From the scaling I had on the end, it could have even reached e80
Perkeo particle accelerator, of course
only TRUE balatro players can get all three trivia questions right without looking it up:
What is the last thing listed on the To Do List Joker’s art?
What is the name on the Driver’s License Joker?
In the Beta build of Balatro, what was the effect of the Orange Stake?
1: straight flush fr fr
2: it expired already so the name isnt worth anything
3: it was different
All right 
pretty sure its "do karate" for the to do list but idk the others
Ill check that
I remember that "do karate" exists
its similar to brooding or grude ig
Makes sense
looked it up, its ||"think deeply on something"|| (definition)
Actually, the word really fits into that
yeah
Im so dumb
Why
Why
I want invisible joker in my main account
So, got on the painted deck and, for the first time, won
This deck is really hard imo
Expecting the achievement, I got really confused when my invisible didnt pop up
Thats when I remembered I got a natural negative ice cream in the last shop
"Suffering from success" is probably the phrase for this
obama shakespeare michael jackson nikola tesla betty white
sorry I didn’t mean to say that
woah what are the chances
No idea, but thats cool 😎
IT JUST HAPPENED AGAIN WHAT
Is this good for unseeded no plasma?
playing balatro has made me wanna play actual poker alot
i wish they made a third one of those poker night at the inventory games
its pretty good to get that far but most low stake runs on any deck can get a fair bit further
solid run tho!
thanks for the feedback! I had a bloodstone back there which I probably should’ve taken over the photo..
Can i be a Joker in the next 1.1 updates Please
Sure you can
bit of that, high card is also a slower levelling hand and generally at least pair is faster, so if you know you're going for a retrigger deck then even a flush is a pretty solid idea
fucking crazy shop
Yeah I had lvl 30 flush but couldn’t get it this hand.
real
the other thing is
you don't need all that hand size so if you had the money then rolling to find an ecto would be a decent idea
lets you take sock and buskin or something
Yea I had an ecto but it was ante 1 😭😭
imjonkling
fucking lucky for an uncommon actually
just do the math on the probability of getting it normally and just divide it by itself
I did the math for a blueprint/brainstorm but idk if I cba to do it for any particular uncommon
actually I can be asked
In any given draw (one shop slot), the values are as follows:
Joker: 72%
Tarot: 14%
Planet: 14%
Now, you need to draw one of the 64 uncommon jokers to land on any given uncommon. Drawing an uncommon joker is a 25% chance on top of the 72% chance, which means in order to draw either any particular uncommon, on average it’s a 18% chance per slot, excluding if you have either planet or tarot merchant, So to roll that twice you’d need to multiply 18% by it’s decimal form, .18 x .18, leaving you with 0.0324, and when simplified to a percentage, you get a 3.24% chance of rolling two uncommons in a row (showman doesn’t dig into the probability of jokers, so two jokers of the same rarity wouldn’t affect the drop rates of any given joker)
Thoughts on the build? (Dagger at +8)
Fun fact! Obelisk is the best joker in the game
This doesn’t include the card sharp I ecto’d and then killed with the dagger because it was too free
And then tried to self nerf again with a second ecto
I try
@frozen wyvern 
even if youre rounding those arent the odds 😭
youd need to round up from 71.4% -> 72%
it’s close enough man

your calculation is also wrong
I did 71% last time and you got on my butt for the numbers not adding up to 100%
it might just be over man 
any math that does not line up means you landed on the aforementioned secret blueprint brainstorm yuri scene 🤑
((20/28)x(1/4))^2, you get a ~3.19% chance (rounding be damned)
^2 is just the same effect as multiplying the decimal value by itself right
yes, because your decimal was just (20/28)x(1/4) but rounded from your original values
rounding was where I went wrong okay so I just had my base values incorrect that makes me feel better
who is doing this🥀
0.4% of people
I've heard from some people it's pretty fun
If you're just chilling and playing a lot, you end up doing a fair amount of it
And at that point people just choose to go for it
how long did it take you
What's the plural nown for truckers?
truckers is already a plural noun
uh
truckerers
truckesters
satellite has a little face on him and you will never unsee it
Jonkler
If only I could find a Chad
(Yes I know the baron was bait)
Baron is never bait if you try hard enough 
I know but this for sure is
Me
I unlocked brainstorm today
Almost won my first run with it but all I had was scaling jokers and I hit The Wall on ante 8
Baron is bait if you're not planning on playing endless
ante 3 shop
abandoned deck
rtb and square jonkler
pick up trousers & grimbo
run won
spectral pack, nothing good in there but I'm nearly broke so may as well rip the wraith
obelisk
Peak
gg abandoned deck orange stake
obelisk is incredible there. play two pair for a while and then scale obelisk off of any other hand
so its funny you say that
i was up against the mouth into the obelisk scoring phase so i was trying to like
diversify etc
so i uh
played the natural straight i drew
if anyone needs me ill just be screaming in the corner
am i overly cooked
bro no way i got negative blueprint just for it to deactivate AND NOW baron
💔
What's the most enjoyable stake in your opinion?
black is my favourite non-endless stake
me
Same
You get madness shenanigans
MEOW MEOW MEOW!!!!
I’m 15 jokers away from c++ (again)


how you unlock it
yaym blue stake. time to continue the grind
Blue stake sucks so it kinda worsens everything after it, glad it's getting changed
Seems like a lot of people like black stake, it's the last stake that doesn't railroad you into certain strategies
.
Honestly I kinda like white stake best
It's the least restrictive so you can just go crazy
Honestly blue stake isn't bad it's just a problem on black deck mostly
balatro will let you score naninf chips and cash it out for $8
Red stake is annoying starting off because it's so inflexible
love balatro
Black deck SUCKS
It forces you into playing high probability hands
balatro is easy
I HATE black deck
i love black deck
I just kept resetting for spare trousers if u get it in the first pack ur pretty much guaranteed a win if u keep playing them
Any word on if black deck is getting changed?
Resetting is boring
No
I know but black deck is ass
LMAOOOOO
I agree
black decks are epic for some people
Black deck could probably just lose the downside and leave it at that
I get that, but damn the odds of winning are lower than shit
guess so
i love rare joker skip (always gives me blueprint/brainstorm)
It's one of the only decks with any downside for using it and it's absolutely crippling
I disagree. the downside should remain, but make it more bearable - have it start at ante 0 (effectively has hieroglyph and antimatter at base)
(real me too)
I love green deck tho, actually better than black deck
one of three with direct downside(s)
Why is that better
or anything that helps with the run
okay, we're on a disagreement here
burnt
because you have an additional ante? and the first ante is easier
ngl i need a chad rn, but this run is so blessed
how is black deck better than green deck
Why is it better than removing the downside
more jokers
I actually did a lucky bloodstone photo chad build
because the deck is meant to be hard
All lucky cards, I love gambling
Exactly
I don't think you understand how important hands are
black deck can fit more jokers
-1 hands is horrific
I fine with blue stake having the -1 but it staking on the black deck is just not fun
w, thats so peak
Well it's a difference of ideas of how decks should work I guess
it's -$1 a round, -5 cards seen, -1 scoring attempt a round, -1 scaling attempt a round
if you know how to play and use probability, it can be easy
and thunk is the ultimate barrier to that
I have 600 hours, black deck is the hardest deck.
it's -1 handsize ._.
I think decks should try to be roughly equal, being hard on purpose is for challenges
That's a huge difference tho
it's -1 hands
maybe black deck could be -1 discard and blue stake becomes -1 hands
that would be horrible
Gold stake would be horrible like this
thunk has said the blue stake rework will make the game easier, not harder.
I think -1 hands is still pretty restrictive, it makes scaling builds worse. Also it's just really difficult
O rly
oh yeah
Thank god
hes reworking blue stake?
okay much easier then
Yo btw, which deck or stake unlocks the anaglyph deck?
We've been privy to this information for months
you are horrible at baiting
oh
The hell it isn't
One joker size doesn't mean shit when you can't get out of ante 2
blue stake rework, matador rework, and new jokers
only recently did thunk confirm more about the blue stake rework and also that were getting at least 2 new jokers
green I think
Money is essential yes but if you use the probabilities of getting cards into your advantage then you'd be playing your winnings hands consistently without worrying to play another hand
this is meaningless
damn
"if you use the probability... Into your advantage" elaborate
because this means absolutely nothing
you're talking out of your ass
- I always disregard hands once I beat ante 1 because I can pretty much save up for 2 more antes even with ass jokers
uh, flushes and straights
"If you do good, things being harder isn't a problem"
well starting at ante 0 is probably a good idea
which are some of the worst hands to play on black deck
because you have -1 hands
So after the black I get the green stake?
Damn I need to get better stuff on my yellow deck, I still haven't even unlocked the challenges yet
what do we think
higher hands suck on black deck because -1 hands is up to -5 cards seen
just get 1 ass joker that gives mult after beating SB Ante 1 and you'll be good until ante 2
Yknow what time it is? Ecto time, or antimatter time
If we're considering hieroglyph a downside why are we not questioning hieroglyph as a voucher
trying man
this is true for white stake
this is much harder at gold stake
no blank opened every spec pack
I can agree to this
Show the deck
what's the highest stake you've beaten black deck on
hearts
white stake is not a good argument for balance
Ok lemme see dawg
not unless, the shop blesses you with some good joker
Nice
Black deck with blue stake and above is a nightmare
what's the highest stake you've beaten on black deck
blue stake
I stopped trying and went to painted deck because IT WAS JUST SO TEDIOUS
which is the biggest difficulty jump, but you haven't gotten to gold stake where 30% of the time the jokers are rental. it's horrific for black deck and makes the jokers pretty much untakeable
purple doesn't affect it early, and orange stake also means v little early
but gold stake is where black deck goes to die
sure, but we're not talking about beatable Vs unbeatable
we're talking about the degree to which they are 'easily' beatable
black deck is easily beatable BEFORE blue stake
and black deck requires the most skill out of any deck to beat
that's true of literally anything
and again, balance should be looked at from gold stake imo
Most decks even after blue stake is easily beatable imo ._.
itd also make ante -2 possible
okay? and at gold stake I would also say this
that doesn't make the point that black deck is the hardest less true
of course they’re beatable
if it starts with hieroglyph, then no
that dosent mean they’re easy
I feel like starting with a voucher dosent line up with the other basic decks
I've streaked gold stakes across each deck, I know how beatable they are, and black deck is the least beatable
i don't really care. It doesn't go against thunks guidelines for ideas if you're applying joker guidelines to decks
there's a precedent for it, and it's not too hard to understand. the only argument that could be made that's cogent is that it does too much, because starting with a voucher and +1 joker slot seems like it's two buffs, but then there's magic deck so it's also fine
Discard a royal flush
all decks are beatable on every seed every stake according to BU
many things in the game are hard to understand
he said on white stake specifically
and thunk has talked about them being problematic, and has made changes to improve their readability before
Do it on checkered deck tho increases the odds of finding one
That's what I did too
he has said every stake before
yeah especially the hands and discards are hard to get initially
Except I still had to use The World 😔
I thought you got 3 hands and discards every ante at first
I like a challenge jokerless was irritating but the pay off to finally beat it is rewording
it might not be trivial, but his win streaks tend to show it’s true.
terminology is also a bit inconsistent. "played hand", "poker hand" in flower pot, "held in hand",
Blue stake black deck is just punishment because you couldn't get a good first hand
oh
“first played face card” also in photograph
he's very good, but that isn't proof that every seed is winnable
Blue stake black deck has made me see how $1 dollar can really make a difference
can anyone suggest a video to help me learn balatro
no, that’s why it said “tend to show”
first played face card of what?
round?
ante?
hand?
run?
Like to guarantee I can get that extra dollar on round 1 I try for a straight from ace to 10
Math teachers be like
Because flushes are inconsistent to get the full 300
verbiage is important
Just add the numbers up
Well that depends on what you mean by inconsistent
you don't need that high of a straight
it can be pretty confusing for new players
The flush needs to score 40 to win
@hushed birch talk about cursed runs. Just won a ghost deck run with only raised fist and hologram
Gold stake ofc
I've won with nothing but 4 pairs of pants before
The unflushed royal flush isn't at all necessary
That was a struggle of a run
Without Xmult that is 100% impossible to beat gold stake
Yo guys, what do y'all think of my most recent build?
Photo chad sock&buskin and a blueprinted triboulet, playing 5oak lucky kings?
Balatro university
It wasn't on gold stake
Pretty swag
I did try something similar on gold stake, it got outclassed pretty fast
I’ve had a few runs where I’ve ank’d an early pants. Always fun
photochad
a Q high straight scores enough at base
that's not even true on gold stake
Pants lowkey goated
source: BU's jokerless gold stake black deck win
How?
Pants are one of the few two pair/full house jokers
if it's possible jokerless, then it's possible with jokers.
Counterpoint: I'm bad
what was his build
But not possible with two pair
you know this how?
Anyone else feel like two pair & full house don't have enough going for them?
Because it doesn’t scale enough?
They need more jokers
yeah we need more two pair love
full house definitely, two pair eh.
Is there a way to check exact stats for consumable usage outside the top 10?
Yes, the infamous pair
if you upload your profile.jkr to balatrostats.com yes
Full house scales like poop from a butt
but that's Steam only
Single pair has basically no reason to play it over high card
I just want to know how many souls I've opened
Me when wrong
Because it's certainly been a lot
And yet I STILL have never opened a Canio
What is there?
you go from +1 +10 to +1 +15, that's 50% faster chips scaling
there's also duo, seeing double, sly, etc
and for marginally worse draw odds (100% Vs 90 something % at 8 handsize)
Seeing double was my first thought as well aga

I've played a lot and I don't even know what's good with pair in the long run. High card goes all in on held cards, five-card hands go for played cards, pair is stuck in the middle.
pairs are just better than high card in the vast majority of scenarios
also pairs work better with bus because you can throw away faces with a pair just fine
rather than needing to play an ace just to discard faces with your hand on high card
no it isn't. this would be a good argument against 3oak/two pair
Hate it!
but pair is the best hand in the game, unironically
There’s a reason mercury is thunk’s most used consumable himself
What does it have in the long term?
it's my 2nd most played hand, after high card, and strictly only because of throwaway hands is high card my highest
She deadass answered this like 6 times
better planet scaling?
better jokers? I just listed these
Those are very marginal benefits
Oh I'm with you it's garbage
Not at all
Everyone says it's so good
What
50% faster planet scaling isn't marginal
And I hate it
some of the best xmults in the game isn't marginal
You’re so based for this vlad <3
duo and seeing double are awesome
5 chips is not very big
ITS 50% FASTER
That's a massive exaggeration
duo and seeing double are incredible wdym
2x mult and it can never get any higher
2x is 2x
"List the benefits of pairs"
"Okay here are some benefits"
"Nuh uh those don't count"
Send ur stats rq
There are more jokers that can go over 2x than can't
'5 chips is not very big' it is when you're going from 10 to 15
wrong
I'm comparing it with high card
I'm on your side here
Then why are you saying 5 chips is not very big
That was ambiguous
going from 10 to 15 chips is a 50% increase in planet scaling
Because it's a small number on a terribly scaling hand, a good chip setup will do way more
Objectively incorrect
Blue Seals are meta, which means planets are meta. planet scaling is a very important factor in hand consideration
The creator of the game’s most used consumable is the mercury planet card
blue seals ARE a good chips setup
+1000 chips scaling joker:
The balatro server is so consistently full of bad takes this is incredible
yes
It's your choice to get mad at them
I mean somewhat
It's a video game
in what world are you playing 250 hands with square / scoring 2s 125 times before ante 8 without a ridiculous setup
Exaggeration:
Honestly a good early perkeo is the dream, unfortunately this dream is rare as shit when you're doing unseeded runs
If you're not going to make sincere arguments then I don't give a fuck
🐈
You don't need 1000, you can get a hell of a lot of chips with any setup
Exaggeration does not help to prove a meaningful point
with...blue seals...?
which are meta btw
People will get so fucking nasty over a video game it's incredible
What can we say, we love gambling
I used profanity so now I'm nasty
Dude how are you interpreting literal mathematic objective figures as “exaggerations” ????
I didn't call you names nor was the profanity directed at you
I'm the one who exaggerated
Send stats!!!!!
I AM THE ONE WHO KNOCKS
Says the person who doubled down on a bad take after repeatedly objectively being proven wrong for little to no reason
I’m the one who poop fart ur mom
exaggerating to make your point more impactful just shows how unimpactful your actual point is
Wasn't even arguing
hi everyone
Me when wrong again
Eugh, I hate poop fart
Piss fart however
You can't disagree with someone without getting confrontational

you haven't made arguments against the planet scaling that are cogent, nor have you made arguments against the joker synergy points
just because you're not aggressive doesn't mean it's not arguing. you're making points against an opposing opinion, that's arguing. you can use whatever word you'd like to use, but that's a common definition of arguing
This reads crazy hard like backtracking when wrong
Okay I’m gonna go back to play the card game
yes you can.
Damn bro is sending messages at light speed
You're trying to make this personal
rate my pfp
I disagreed with you
What is it?
9.6 out of 10
I think you made some good points
Kazuya from tekken as jimbo
Modded?
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