#💬aimlabs-chat
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I feel like at this point at least on the PC side I will runs are almost at the calf. What possible after 11 I think that’s the theoretical 12 can also be possible but I think the odds of that are near impossible
Like 2 months
You guys have names for the spots! I just run around and take mental notes of every possible place and attribute it subconsciously to something there which makes it distinct, if ya know what i mean
I make em up lol
ive done that but ive started naming them for fun xD
Exactly I need something to blame when I go the wrong direction
Why not blame office, or graveyard or courtyard or heaven lol
nothing to blame except long always
I KNOW RIGHT
Boutta rename myself ric59
Which way do you guys go at the start
I used to just run straight and wuick res when bomb is not topright or left under the window, but i ran left in my pb
straight
I cba to stay in place and go where the audio is cause its too many times i hear the sound from ahead of me then suddenly its at the back end of the map
TRUE
I always run at the start and guess where first one is LOL
Oh my god i hate that spawn, but i hate the open right area next to long more
i run straight and reset if not top right or court
Exactly what i was doing
HAHAHAHA TRUE
At the end of my session i started going left and go to court and the left side house area
Both of these are good starts
clubhouse 🗣️
Clubhouse ❗️🪩
im gonna start playing in an hour, gonna do some tries in all 3
One thing i dont like is that i cant listen to music or streams while i grind hahah
adapt, thats what i did 😭
Wdym
jus listen to music while doing it, low volume music and up the sound in aimla
Ive realize It will only spawn in 5 of the 7 areas of the start, it never spawns in clubhouse and never spawn in that middle area between office and outside clubhouse on the decline
how many plays do u guys got on defuseshot
Technically 8 if you count the actual middle and 9 if u count that small cubby next to courtyard
I gotta check when I get home
yah
100 plays 10000000 resets xD
SO TRUEEEEEE
U miss on defuse, restart
Bad pathing at start, restart
this is just luck
yeah its 80% luck but if you whiff a single letter on defuse you restart
There def is a skill aspect tho
fr theres lot of secret tech
maybe getting lucky for 11th bomb sheesh
I think we were experimenting with possible short cuts right?
Like there are a few legitimate ones but mainly its just knowing how to path yourself, I know mines isnt the most optimal but somehow I pull it off lol
when going ramp or whatever is yk close to long you can jump over the barrier by jumping on the barrels from spawn
idk if its faster but its fun af
It def can be i think
audioshot is the keypoint for auditory literally i cant chase those
i havent seen a single person enjoy audioshot
30k gap on #1 sadge
cheater
there not getting cleaned off its legit i think
#1 on what
160k
what gamemode bro
audioshot
ye
if i miss on any of them i restart 😆
He's legit scores been there 3 days
is the quick scope replays bugged?
ofcourse, thas why theres a theoretical best starting direction
LOVE MATCHING MY HIGH SCORE ON AUDIOSHOT
i do, driving me mentally insane is a differen thing, but i do enjoy it though
im announcing in advance that ill be setting a new audioshot wr today
idc, have it. i just wanna up my highscore a by a target or two and never touch that again 😭
unfortunately for you, that will be the difference maker for the top 10 2 months later
since a top score in surroundshot are closer to eachother, and defuseshot a little too
how play audioshot this sucks dookie balls
Right right
PLEASE SOMEONE TELL ME HOW TO PLAY AUDIOSHOT
click fast think fast
defuseshot playa no think
what i hate the most in defuseshot is one of the bombs in the lil center room where the smoke perfectly obscures the vision of the letters, and insta losing cause of that
skill issue just look ( makes me wanna kms but still i manage to get it done somehow)
but i do actually love all 3 scenarios
your smokes are probably transparent then cause aint no way
you cant see thru smokes just a lil?
not really, not enough so i can see the letters
you think the graphics settings change the smoke?
i have all lowest settings and everything off and i can just about make it out when i look really precise
How is the player rkill007 not banned yet? He got first place and had it removed for cheesing 4 times already on audioshot (or at least only 4 times I spotted his name at the top of the leaderboard, maybe there had been more). Does he just keep making alt accs or something?
your score just gets removed
really
but he does it repeatedly intentionally and from what I am seeing he also on purpose tries to get lower scores while still pausing to not have them removed, shouldn't some action be taken?
I am only 12th place tho so I do not have the right to complain but it's annoying how placements keep changing because of never ending high scores of cheaters
Yes
🧢
i have the right to say
What is the best route in defuseshot
@unreal sky @pale coyote 1 surroundshot is clearly using something to make it so his mouse doesnt move up or down. is this allowed?
i know about that tech. I havent set a pb yet with that because i want to get a confirmation that its allowed
6th
how long has it been on the lb
How do you even do it?
yesterday
Btw whats the theoretical best starting route on defuseshot
going left or straight are the best starts imo and thats what other top scores are doing as well
Yea i've deduced that aswell however I was wondering whether the best loc on left or the best loc on straight right is better
which one is the actual fastest is yet to be proven, both are viable for now
Hi
I found a very interesting route going straight and then right to surf to another almost immediately
top right then the open right area?
nono nvm if I get a top run you will see
ah okay then lul
Huh?
@raw jewel I would have a question regarding a task
dang I was on wr pace on audioshot but misclicked at the last quarter
What is it exactly? Yk what it is?
leaderboard runs mouse doesnt fluctuate up or down. just a straight line left and right
omd I was on pace for wr defuseshot and I got the smoke that covers the bomb thing 😭
I understand ur pain
lalalla i cant hear you
Im gonna be honest I have farmed defuseshot for days and gotten so unlucky so my record is still 130k
U mean 11th bomb?? You made it to the 11th bomb???
world record would be 10 bombs 100% accuracy + 3 bots
But if they were on wr pace it would mean he made it to #11
yo
im breaking my own record before soemone eelse does
That what I did
It only stalls
Tommorow I think Im gonna grind Defuseshot until I break WR or complete 11th bomb
no reason to gatekeep this, because it's simple
you can separately change the y sensitivity...
i mean... its an ingame mechanic... right?
Yea but so is pausing
i just dont know if it falls under the category of cheese cheating or its fine
cuz yeah, its just a sensitivity setting, its literally just sens
The real question is, is it classified as cheesing or not
that is indeed the question on everyones mind.
I tried it yesterday and it works well
thats why i need to hear a mod's thoughts on this
if its allowed, it'll fr change the entire leaderboard on that mode
not necessarily, but everyone will gain score on that yes
Not really, we already have near perfects for that, its just the accuracy, 42 targets is a perfect run
i tried it yesterday and i couldn't beat my normal pb (almost did)
(Tho I do think a 43rd can be done)
#1 has 44
43 is definitely possible, perfect run would be 44-45
i was frames away from 43 in my current pb
Bet bet good to know
46 possible if pixel perfext xD
not really, cause 43 is the solo target, 44 and 45 are the duo targets
45 has to be perfect then, since its in pairs of threes
you'd have to wait a lot for 46, that's actually impossible
Its kind of like defuseshot in a way, where we are all talking about the 11th bomb
yeah it's fun to brainstorm these things
cant believe im in the aimlab speedrunnnig community
AHAHAHAHAH i love it
no other category has this sick of a community tho
you don't even know
Why are we the only ones who talk about the competition lol, its only audioshot category people
cus its not ass 🗣️
so
yeah im reading every message in this channel and it's 97% audio, 1% movement, 1% speedshot and 1% quickscope
wsp, what are yall up to
quickscope players be like: i cant aim
just hit 75 targets in audioshot but missed
everyone is in need of a good headset huh
I actually really do
nah i fr feel bad for quickscope players. they're going against the most annoying tic tac conts
neattt bro, i havent done that one yet, is 75 good?
Bro I need that headset so bad, plus my parents will be proud if I do something lol
i really enjoyed quickscope ngl
yep, close to my pb so I just need to not fail on a good run and I'll get there, wbu?
i need to win so my gf understands why i ignore her
is there any way to see the leaderboard for people that are actually signed up?
This is so real
that's crazy
no idea, i got like top 108 in i think a movement one but they removed my runs for some reason
gf = - money, aimlab = + headset
Oh thats unlucky
i did the movement tasks earlier and i am 25th there
having a gf is negative EV
WHAT, 25?? bro u are one hell of a skilled person
thx, but that's not my main category to go for, i just do the others for fun, wanna stay in the top 100/50 in those
is there any way to see the leaderboard for people that are actually signed up?
sorry for resend
nice man, have u been playing aimlabs allot?
i think it's cuz not many have played the tasks yet
yeah playing for a few years now
yeah + there is also like a month more time
ya
I cant aim for shi
explains y ur so good then huh, question, would u say u have been practicing like allot in a week or js for fun rly?
i played regularly in like 2021 and in 2024, sporadically in the other years
same, and somehow im 15th in audio, you can do it!
ahh alright, thanks for answering, preciate it
NOOOOOOOOOO I HIT 80 TARGETS IN AUDIOSHOT BUT I MISSED
fawkin diabolical
all good man, thx for askin ^^
what categories are u playin mainly?
JUST DID 81 TARGETS BUT MISSED
wdym with missed tho?
i believe in you
raceshot is rly fun yeah, every task is fun
btw 81 wouldve been wr by 5 hits
missed as in hit the wrong sound
got #1 movement again, but looks like i cant keep this place. too many good players.
audioshot scoring so boring tho man
damn you are a beast, welcome fellow #1 :P
ty bro
DANG
what's ur user in aimlabs?
okay okay thats insane now
RiCS0 (with a zero)
dang you're third in audioshot
first two are cheated scores
I keep missing mine in the last quarter too, after the like first half of the shots, once I got to 120k with only the first 3 quarters
Yeah the nerves do tend to get to me as well
for me it's excitement more than nerves that do it 💀
can i ask, how many hz is yall monitor?
165 hz, 15.6" and 1080p
180 hz
just as we are speaking i lost a 77 run to the last quarter
lmao
144hz
ohh u on a laptop?
bro my wrist starts hurting rn every time I get mad for failing I start punching it with my left hand or hitting it with random stuff
whenever im on pace to beat 130k i lose it last quarter
you don't know the rage tech, you always slam with your non-mouse hand
to keep your aiming hand intact
nah that hand aint done nothing wrong to me, the other one be trolling
Im on 60hz
75hz bro, i feel you 🙏
yeah, on a legion 5 with a 5600h and 3060, soon gonna solder some copper pipes to its heatsink and add water cooling too
SICKKK
:)
ive noticed some legion pcs and laptops heat up quicker compared to other
hm not really when we speak about laptops
laptop players trying to cool down their oven
yeah tbh every laptop heats up quick
I mean the legion 5's, 5 pro's and 7's are pretty damn well cooled compared to nitro 5 or nitro 15/16 or asus's equivalent rog/tuf laptops
79 hit missed run... i gotta stop missing but eventually I'll get there
msi has some good ones but they are expensive af, their only cheap models are underpowered
the real, not cheated world record is the one you and the other guy got, right?
79 again
yes 76 is the actual wr
haventy u beat the record then
i missed and the scoring system punishes you for not keeping your combo, you have to "fc" to get a wr
wtf deleting it all
agreed by allot, i find rog a greedy company ngl
??
u gotta stop thinking like ur not gonna win, u gotta feel and act like its easy and u will achieve it
yeah and their warranty is kinda useless in most countries bc they got the worst customer support
wise man once said
what are yall keeping from me
I know I will get there, so there's no problem on that, just gotta try enough times
lenovo usually provides 3 years of warranty for any defect so long there is no user induced failure, even replacement of the whole mobo (in most countries, not all of them, I know for a fact India is an exception)
blud said delete it fast
gl!!
we keeping from others
look in your notifs on your mobile app, you should see it there
i feel like india couldnt and shouldnt be an exception lol
no bro 😔
just got 75 hits with no misses
whose gatekeeping XD
niceeee
yeah it's because of the indian goverment afaik, they also do other s8!tty stuff like banning sites like aliexpress to force the civilians to buy at local prices(which are hella inflated)
I'm not from there but I have a couple friends that live there
check dms
yay new pb defuseshot still not enough tho lol only 132k
damn
niceeee, congrats! how much is top 10
Idk like 125k I think, lots of people got 130k
DANG, and u got top 10 with 60hz??? thats crazy ngl, deserved ngl
ffs man I was literally frames away from beating my audioshot record
how bro I am stuck at 60k
Yea im on 60hz and it feels very unfair tbh because Ive been stuck at a certain skill level for a while in most games
agreed, the jump from 60 to like 144hz is insane, feels SO smooth
at first it does, but after using 165hz for a little over a year I can see the individual frames. Yes, with 165hz setting and over 165 fps(more like 300)
I think imma upgrade my laptop screen soon, 240hz 1080p ones are around 150 bucks on aliexpress
BEAT MY AUDIOSHOT SCORE BY ONE HIT 🔥 🗣️
and usually a bit more expensive on ebay
mhm, i had a familiy member with a 165hz monitor and like ive never seen or played on such high hz, and it felt like i was pro or sum
oooohh alright alright, ngl appreciate it for going thru the work to put a screen into a laptop monitor
it's quite easy actually
just a couple plastic clamps and 2 glue bars which can be removed by pullin on them from the bottom of the screen
I think it's because I switched to qwas instead of wasd to try to get used to those binds for another game(fortnite)
qwas is the most outrageous thing ive heard
mhm but its more struggling than js replacing ur monitor 😭
yeah bcs I switched to rtfg on fortnite instead of wasd to unlock more keys for my pinky and completely free up my index without sacrificing movement
I just got #1 dodgeshot
basically left and right are done only with my ring
but feels weird when counterstrafing
@remote isle Check dodgeshot
atp im restarting if the bomb is in long no matter what
i just got to open the 11th spike but ran out of time
Wdym in long, where is that
I think it's the far left one
the long as lane that sucks dog
ATP I think I will just try to get at least 90k in defuse and go nuts with audioshot. I feel like I have the potential to hit 200k in audioshot if I get in the right mood and start sleeping more
lol good luck man
no way unless console scoring is diff
bet
oh yea why would u not reset there lol
are u on pc
gimme 3 days
lol this guy thinks its that easy
ye
gg
wait so is the vertical sens on surround shot allowed or nah? @raw jewel
are u the nifty from Cs
no, I don't know him
Hey we got similar ones
@unreal sky bro how tf you got 162k in surroundshot, I can barely go past -4000
I have 175k
lol
u are him bro, u truly are
And I'm #1 in dodgeshot
how do you do???
look at mine
i swear bro aimlabs pros are like the most humble ppl, like any other decently good guy in a random ass discord server wouldve sugarcoated and bragged till the end of the night abt his ''insane clip''
Your bio is making me die XD
I am already dead, the people around me just don't know it yet
you hit the targets faster, the faster the next ones will spawn
bruh what, you wait for them
whats your in game name?
mariantalpaiute
i see, basically you up your sens so you dont miss any targets that spawn, and just hear where theyre comin from i guess
i wanna do it but no point if y sens allowed
up? you mean it has to be even faster?
your pb is around 22k from what i saw ingame, you probably let a lot of targets go, so you gotta match the pace they are spawning
i mean just do whats comfortable but i did it on 0.52 800 val if i recall correctly
i did .27 1600 so same
23.93* basically like a .68 in valo with 800 dpi(mine is 4.3 fort with 1600 dpi)
what the player card do?
Yo ricso my fov is 90 umm is that bad??
nvm, I solved the problem without changing sens, I think it was because of the plate of pancakes I had on my tile
yes it has to be at least 102 on pc
mousepad*
Wait you're #1 on surround?
i play 70 😭
guys read the rules before you play this competition !
yup
How do you have no vertical movement whatsoever?
Bro is locked on that axis
I can't reveal my secrets
I know both of them alr lmao
ok #1 we dont even know if thats allowed yet @hoary remnant , #2 your "secret" is that u just changed y sensitivity to 0
Let's not forget the triggerbot 💀
thanks for telling me
lmfao
bro what, so ur saying my thing is not allowed???
what fov have you played
I'm not using a triggerbot 💀
You should give it random click timings if you do triggerbot in the future. It clicking the ms it's under the target is pretty obvious
Bro just built different mb 💪
Blud, you can hear them running torward you
This is not correct, the default FoV is eligible. Only hFOV must be 102 or higher, which is an advanced setting, not the main slider.
ryan is y sens 0 allwoed
Please be careful about spreading misinformation, try to let admins answer ruling questions.
please be allow it
Discussing this with the team next week 😉
If not, I'm done for
It's ok yokai will deal with it and make 100% sure later. But I alr know that the no vertical axis one isn't going to be allowed
sorry for the false info, but yeah it's important for us to know if limiting the y sens is allowed
The only reason I was able to get my score was because of the Y-sens, if it gets removed that will make sense
would be nice to know now so i dont waste my time running surroundshot when next week i could just put my y sens to 0 and get more score 10x easier
mhmm
Won’t have an answer for you today, sorry. My guess is that it will not be allowed but need to talk it thru with the Aimlabs team.
alr cheers
isnt triggerbot js straight up cheating XD
yea
I mean, I'll take it as a complement I guess
thats not allowed tho isnt it, might get banned r?
Was saying #1 score was using it, not me. If they say they aren't, sure. Yokai can look at exact click timings to determine if they are or not. In my eyes, at 0.1x speed, it's extremely obvious so.
ahh okay, my bad
what was the name of nr1 guy?
nif-t guy in the discord and his aimlabs name is fnnifty
ohhhhh alr
Like, you can check the second players run at 0.1x speed, then his and compare the timings of when they click (and on what part of the bot). Bro is not pre-clicking 44 bots in a row. 💀 But I'm not talking about this here since I don't want to cause drama in this server.
you can hear the bots, you can actually predict when they peek out, so "preclicking" is a viable thing to do here
It's okay to talk about it, it makes sense because it does look suspicious.
I may have 22 full runs, but I've restarted like 200 times
my surroundshot bots making sure the duo spawns as far away as possible from the other one
The second I mess up I try again, and yes it's full luck
nah nah i get u nw, thx for answering tho
Would agree if they didn't let some of the bots come out and drag their crosshair on it and immediately kill it. For example, look at the bot at 52 seconds.
It would also make sense if they click immediately in the same spot e.g., timing the shots with a metronome (which I was gonna try to see if that's feasable), but they do not put their crosshair near the same spots whatsoever making the click timings different. Also, I play a LOT of aimlabs... no matter how many times you restart, you aren't perfectly click timing all of them. It's like getting 100% acc, statistically? Sure, Possible? No.
thats just not what he did though
that vod is without a doubt cheated
didnt see the replay yet, so i will believe you until i check it out myself
Yea, you can tell a huge difference between yours, 2nds, also even mine at 12th which was decent 30s pace
How does a trigger bot work?
lol
🤦♂️
"guys whats sex ive never had it before"
Bro basically is using the equivalent of "how do you cheat in aimlabs" while running full aimbot doubling matty's score
Just seriously tell me, I can prove I'm not using one
I know it shoots for you, but how
It is not possible to prove that you aren't using one
so it just basically as soon as u move and put ur crosshair on a target, it shoots for u automatically
Basically
yeah, I know that, but does it use game files or what
no lol
only possible way to estimate is probability. what are the chances you hit the target everytime it appears in the first frame possible? astronomically low
maybe, idk, i only know sum cs2 cheats and thats it, never did aimlabs triggerbot or sum
That's the thing, he doesn't. That's why this "I was timing it" is bs
a triggerbot has zero need to ever touch game files in this case
But also, I've been grinding this for a very very long time
doesnt it like need to know what target its looking for?
You can read center screen pixel color for a color that doesn't appear in the map and just press m1 when it sees it. (kinda like his red targets)
WAIT
that would make sense, but how would that work
?
You know what funnier? Why does your crosshair have a 1 pixel gap in the center if you aren't using one? 💀
nift please stop acting like youre a brainlet and admit your mistake
Aww I can't send screenshots
"how would that work" as if he didnt just explain in very simple terms how it works. it clicks for you when it sees the color under the crosshair
not really - a simple external triggerbot could just be set to click once a certain colour value is detected (being fed images or a video feed would provide it sufficient information, and would never touch game files)
ahh alr, makes way more sense, thanks!
bro needs to take an acting class
Many ways, you can program something that screenshots (and doesn't save) your screen every ms and just check the center pixels rgb value, you can download something online which does this quicker too
But isn’t there color deviation, and shadows and stuff like that
True that
oh and black. You are very far from red rgb wise
you can set every single value between 0 and 256 for red targets because that pixel will never be mixed with other colors, shadows only darken the color, so only reduces R value, doesn't add B or G to the pixel.
rn you just tryna find excuses fr
Idk, say whatever you want to, it will be proven when the one thing (I forgot what it’s called checks it)
yokai will check it someday lol
it will be proven when the one thing (I forgot what it’s called checks it)
this guy 🤦♂️
suddenly it was his lil bro on his pc
it was clara fr
wait is the 0 vertical sens used by this guy even allowed, nobody answered the question yet
No. It very likely will not be
Dude, they haven’t answered it yet
i dont think theres anything explicitely disallowing it, no?
its just different horizontal & vertical dpi
No, not really but I highly doubt it will be allowed.
If it’s not allowed then I probably will be like 100, it makes it way easier to get high scores
"Most likely not" is what i got told
LMAO
If or when it gets banned I can do the surroundshot again and show you that it’s mostly because of the sens thing
That's just a skill issue. You can click exact timings but can't swipe 90deg right/left straight?
glad you got it
Yeah lol
Sure you won't be perfect straight lines, but you don't need to be. Just need to be head level
It just helps tbh
obviously it freaking helps when you dont have to worry about another dimension of aiming
Just wait until after yokai checks everyone’s scores
I was surprised the others didnt haha, i got you man
It honestly doesn't do much
what does the y sens 0 thing do? im confused
@lean coral Yo those countries from EU stated in rules are those only countries where you can send prizes for the players that placed in top 10, what happens if I'm in the country that's not on the list but I place in top 10??
hooray everyone clap for me my high score went up by 200
I would prob score similar. But that's because my aim is alr decent enough to 90/180 and still be head level
just makes your flicks more consistent since you dont have to worry about verticality
This is correct
ahhhh, so putting it to 0 basically js removes making your mouse go up and or down
yes
That is horrific half of the EU is not there
Birth diff
Good that I asked so I don't waste more time on other maps
also he said he'd hit 100k without y sens as if THAT INCREASED HIS SCORE BY OVER 70K
so is life - this is still the most inclusive aimlab "competition" to date. previously its been US exclusive for everything iirc
ohhh, yeah i think it gives an advantage so might be dissallowed
bro what happens if we are not in those countries, like what stops you from sending to Romania when you can send the rewards to Germany?
as if 100k is a score noteworthy enough for anyone to care
dk if im more shocked to see finland there or me on the top 10 audio
by you I mean the whole team
Its awful, they just don't want to bother to send to other countries they just picked easiest ones
@hoary remnant is your mouse DPI set correctly btw? It says you're playing on 148cm/360 which is insane tbh. For the flicks
can play high sens when you dont have to worry about verticality or shooting xD
there is almost certainly reasons behind where they (dont) ship
Not really, the verticality shouldn't effect how annoying it is to swipe for a 180
What reason I previously won some aimlabs VCT and got the money and everything, won some Peripherals from other games and it got shipped
im neither employed by logitech or aimlab, so i cant give you a concrete answer
You seem like you would fit there
mhm, i mean they would if they had the chance to, you never know whats really the issue
Better to not do this type of stuff when you restrict half of the world and then have your rules on discord many people probably won't check and will place in top 10 and not be eligible
you have to join the discord to be eligible. thats on them if they dont read the rules
also true!! couldve just put the rules on the game itself too, dont see any issue
Its fine you guys will sell rewards I won and send me cash np
ohhh yeah, nvm it makes sense now
i actually wouldnt mind getting that headset
Tbf, the only thing I would want is the cash prize or the mouse lol
Headset and mouse are good, keyboard is one of the worst on the market and 180$ lol.
I'm not getting either tho
already have the og superlight, a little worn down but still works great so i'd much rather get a wireless headset which i dont have
I have the OG superlight too and I don't even use it lol
js send me the keyboard dw bout it XD
"No cash equivalent or alternative product or prize will be made available"
im guessing this would make that solution hard
did yall see you get an "Un-annonced gaming mouse" thats gonna be revealed september 17 in the ultimate challenge
yes! rather excited to get my hands on it :P
If its allowed I'll give it to you np lol Im already top 10 on that map
are the quick scope replays bugged ?
i like the confidence
seriously???
Send it to me if you don't like it 🙏
fr, also the total prize in money is overvalued, all the goods do NOT exceed 100k unless the mice they are dropping for the ultimate challenge are valued to over 188 euros each. Which most probably will not be the case. Also, all the rewards for the top 10 players in each category are totally worth only 6000 euros, if we take into account the off the shelf price. If we take from those prices the profit of logitech(which is over half the price of the products because they overprice everything just like razer and all other big brands) we are left with only 3000 euros worth of materials and labour for the products and over 97000 for the remaining 500 gaming mice, which again in terms of cost of materials and labour cannot possibly exceed 80 bucks when taking into account the prices of the current best sensors on the market and of the wireless chips present inside the mice(if they are even wireless).
youd have to accept the prize & personally take care of the shipping to his location - it would not be provided by logitech
this is the ONLY time someone has been actually legit to me
100k prizepool, 10k max in rewards, 90k stolen is my guess cuz it aint 100k lmao
imma laugh my a off if i win the headset sweepstakes and win audio category
fr
Console too and just the cash prize for both is 10k
theyre giving away 500+ mice, a couple dozen headphones, a couple dozen keyboards, and cash prizes. it could very well reach $100K total!
yeah exactly, i saw 100k and im like wtf they mean with 100k, i thought it only was 5k
there is no cash prize? only prize in products?
There is. T10 for ultimate
there is!
console
1st: $1,000
2nd: $800
3rd: $700
4th: $600
5th: $500
6th: $400
7th: $300
8th: $300
9th: $200
10th: $200```
pc
1st: $1,000
2nd: $800
3rd: $700
4th: $600
5th: $500
6th: $400
7th: $300
8th: $300
9th: $200
10th: $200```
Yea
The thing is I'm not even that good I'm just GM on voltaic and for me to get top 10 on some map is goddamn sad there is people that aim way better but this challenges are made for casuals lol its sad that they didn't even make proper maps for people with good aim to win
I'm a washed GM fr
EXACTLY, like i have a stronger feeling to win even tho im not even that good
They could have at least tried to make maps more skill based the maps they made like 70% of them are so awful
tbf most top players already got mad gear that they dont need
I only played the first day tho so
i got top 20 on a category and i w as only Emerald season 3 💀
personally have zero interest in anything except the un-announced mouse haha
i just found out about the mouse so that and the headset and MONEY
Most of top players don't even want to play cuz its awful maps
still, with those 10k for the ult challenge and less than 3k for the peripherals(again, I am ignoring the profit logitech would be making if they were to sell those because there's just no reason to include that) there would be 87k left for the 500 upcoming gaming mice.
I don't think the maps are bad. They just want something completely skill based where they're the only ones with a chance of winning.
that mouse better aimlock installed onto it
Isnt that the point they trained their aim they deserve to win its aim training game afterall
fr
No, it isn't. That isn't what this event is either
alr gn yall
It's meant to be for casual player base. Not only the sweaty aim trainers.
Aimlabs isn't bad at all as an aim trainer lmao
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Their ranked mode is questionable tho
But at least they are doing something different. kvks has had the same ranked benchmarks for how long?
does anyone have any idea about the quick scope replay bug where people miss but .3 seconds later get another shot off, seen it happen on multiple replays.
All the tasks you can find on kvks, you can likely find similar alternatives on aimlabs
id much rather some casuals ( including myself ) win something than some sweaty unemployed 20 year old in their mums basement win a mouse thats going to be covered in grime after 2.3 hours
fr
and i appreciate em for making something for more causal playerbase (ie defuseshot has taken over my life xD)
It's funny asf too bcs the best aimers are STILL going to win stuff anyways.
Like look at the aiming category, T10 are literally all aim trainer mains
Also in audioshot you can see very few(if any) aim gods actually getting high scores. There's no point in them refusing to play as it's free money, so I am guessing skill issue from them.
lmaoo that's insane to think about. them mfs panicing when they have to write play xD
There are 5 in the movement (that I know of) and 2 in the audio portion. Audio and movement are literally the ONLY chance casuals have and it's still not gonna be actual "casuals" since it requires good aim
Its not a skill issue, they are just not playing these scenarios
That too
not including sweepstakes (and assuming a price of $130 for the unannounced mouse), im up to $92.2K in prizes
for example aqua with 98k
Matty could likely take t10 in all three if he grinded but I doubt he cares about the gear
maybe something else rounds up to 100k iodk
sweepstakes + i obviously dont know the price of the mouse
You'll see t10 for ultimate challenge will likely be those aim trainer mains since it's cash prize
if i assume $140 p. count of the unreleased mouse + cash prizes + t10 prizes, i land at $97.2K
which could reasonably go up to $100K when you include the sweepstake prizes
Shipping fees not included likely
130 is overpriced bruh. As a retail price, maybe. As their costs to manufacture them for the event, no way in hell. There are gaming mice on the market with the paw3950(which logitech is highly unlikely to beat with their hero sensors) priced at as low as 50 bucks with really good shape and 4k/8k polling rates.
You don't even know what the mouse is tho
and they said 100k+, meaning over 100k
they obviously list the prices as what they would sell for retail. we arent logitech, we're consumers.
who cares, the value of the items is less than that.
unbiased opinion make cash prizes be for defuseshot
that doesnt make their claim of $100K worth of prizes any less false!
Defuseshot should have been ultimate. Has all three requirements
actually not wrong tbf
Bop it should have been ultimate. Easily the best mode
i agree with this statement no bias whatsoever
might aswell make it so #1 defuseshot wins everything
just give nif-t the money already 🙏
if I write "sfsaf dfhsaiklfasnwlkjs" on a piece of paper and list it on multiple marketplaces for $1M and then host a competition with that as a prize, alongside 1$, I do not find it fair to say the total prizes are worth $1M+
he aint defuseshot, thats me 💪
oh shi, well done
I can't be bothered to learn the map for defuseshot
its ez after a few trys its just spam reset
Yea, I don't like tasks like those
the feeling us unlike no other once youre feeling the spawns tho
I got 103k
For the first 20 attempts I couldn't tell anything about the location of the targets in surroundshot but I think my wheel just span and I just started adapting. (JJK reference)
That is probably what I will end with since I do not plan on playing much
youre clearly just frustrated your region was ineligible, and i dont blame you. but trying to twist this isnt being a "sham" is an odd way to go about it. logitech have a market for their admittedly overpriced peripherals, and have a proven track-record of selling items for these prices (including many of the prizes being given away). are you confident you could find a market for your $1M piece of paper?
is this the scenario solandmoon hardgrinded
Yea
yeah gg, im not playing that. looks awful
It kinda looks fun with the movement he was doing
But other than that, i don't like being shot the second I peak a corner, so I am good. mfs got aimbot... NIF level pre-clicks
whos that
fellow in the aimlab discord! thats where aiir and i usually reside
them mfs are aholes i cant lie
I am not saying this because of the regions, I could just talk to some random guy that lives in one of those countries and get him a free headset(in case I win). My setup is pretty good already so idrc at all. But making false claims on the value of the prizes for the event is really shameful.
How is it false tho
At retail value, it adds up. Doesn't look false to me.
still under 100k even at retail value.
Proof?
they havent made false claims regarding the value of prizes. all prizes listed with the exception of the so far unannounced mouse have a history of selling for their claimed price. you disliking that doesnt make the value a "sham".
close but not over as they stated.
Do you have the price of their new mouse? How do you know it isn't like Razers $200 one?
(v3p is a great mouse may i add)
have the og viper still somewhere lol
You're making huge assumptions and just saying it's not 100k. You don't have the facts, so you can't make those assumptions
the new mouse would only need a retail price of $140 to get them to the $100K mark too lol
but lets be real, its likely the ergo gpx thats been floating around as of late
Probably
idk man honestly idrk why I am having this argument I just hate how big companies can set whatever price they want and make 3x as much profit compared to a random unknown brand that has similar or better products but is forced to sell them for cheaper because of all the fanbois of the big corporations.
for the sweepstakes is it 2 total winners or 2 winners per headset, kb and mouse?
Yes, but that's how life works. People care more about the branding than the quality
im doing the math rn
dont know which is why i couldnt be bothered to add it
it says 2 winners per monthly drawing so ill just go with that
@split seal QL?
nah sry
astro a50 IS 400 DOLLARS?!
f
thats its msrp from logitech, so yes, it unfortunately is
superlight 2 can be found easily for 140$ in most countries tho
taken from lg website most likely
What about the xbox ultimate prize
these are still the prices listed on logitechs own store! partnered retailers prices do not matter for this
aight
unannounced mouse could easily be abovce 140 tho
We know PC is going to be a mouse, but what about xbox?
easily
astro a50 x
Ah
xbox isnt getting the same large t500 giveaway!
- sweepstakes prizes
yeah that was mentioned earlier, just couldnt be bothered to calculate those since i wasnt sure how it was handled
(#💬aimlabs-chat message)
is it 2x per month like overall or 2x per headset, kb and mouse
this exactly
wait, there are a50's too?? I didn't notice them
xbox top 10 on the ultimate challenge are receiving a50x
I should be able to get t500 in ultimate pretty easily tbf
Still haven't signed up yet tho lmfao
yeah im not bothering till ultimate challenge either :P
Yea I might hate the challenge completely and just not play
imagine the ultimate being a br style gamemode with a limited number of matches for each player xD (extremely unlikely tho considering it's aimlabs)
Might as well register ASAP to be eligible for the August sweepstakes drawing.
honestly cba. none of the prizes would replace what i currently use anywho.
please tell me if its 2 kb, headsets, and mice monthly or 2 total peripherals monthly 😭
Only thing I would consider using is superlight 2
could sign up & just sell if you win
2x PC winners and 2x Console winners per month.
PC winners get the full PRO X bundle, Console winners get an A30 headset.
okay so that changes things, they get the entire works.
so 6 winners for the duration of the event
im doing it rn dw
eh kinda bulky but with a modkit it would be pretty good
shape already makes it a skip, itd just be a nice bump towards something more unique
I don't mine my other g pro shape tbh
gpw/gpx are eternally damned to remain at the back of my peripheral drawer
Have been using lamzu atlantis mini for a while recently tho.
@cloud stirrup can i reasonably assume itll be a gpx2 priced mouse?
idk what that is but ok
g pro x superlight 2
sure
thats if top 500 all get a mouse tho
I'd assume they all get the same
huzzah
Bro has everything documented
bros the bookkeeper
Drop the yokai message
no img perms, so cant send the gif
upload the screenshot to imgur
Let's go
Sure
hey Housei you can tell me if i still in the top 10 i m on holiday
top 10 audio?
Yes
what the player card percents do?
youre #10 exactly
I'm coming back on Wednesday I'm going to have to tryhard.
Yes it's true that it ends at the end of October.
Thanks
thats a lot of people wow
sure is
what mouse will we be getting?
Hey, maybe this seems like a stupid question, but why not just give the winners some coupon codes or something to get the items for free from the Logitech official site, this way allowing more regions to get the prizes directly and excluding the need for the winners to use parcel redirecting services in order to receive their well deserved earnings? From what I am seeing on the logitech eu store, there is shipping to more regions on the official site when purchasing something than there is in the rules for receiving the winnings, so obviously such a big company should be able to figure out they can use the same shipping method for the prizes provided to the skilled competitors.
ngl audio grind tommmorow, today I fr grind movement mwhahahaha
probably gonna do some audioshot and flicking or wtv
I suck today hahah but the off days are the best improvement days
80% on movment today
my off day is cs2
i want that keyboard so bad🥲
fair fair I think Im just fully committing to this
I should really play Valorant hahaha
🥲
ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
gg
unannounced, but i suspect it might be the ergo thats been going around recently
@cloud stirrup I had an 11 bomb pace but i screwed up the pathing on the last bomb, wouldve had time for it
SEE???? IT IS POSSIBLE
def 11 max tho
i never said it was impossible
Im more excited about it, im not flaming I swear
I know you never said its impossible, just saying i fkd up on the pathing nothing else😭 i heard the bomb from a diff place
Defuseshot is addicting, it’s like gambling
Wait I cant use stretched res for this?
Stretched res is not permitted for eligible scores, sorry.
stretched allowd in pro play tho and not even every pro uses it
I was playing Movement... for like an hour then I went back to defuse shot, its literally an addiction
this is an issue ngl
It activates the same things gamba does in the brain
i mean literally its gambling with skkill hahahahaha
Yeah its rly good, but omgggg i literally had an 11 run but went around the bomb instead of to it
I have a feeling tommorow one of us get 11 bomb
after that tho Im going back to audiotrack and surround track until Im satified with my scores
I hope so, this is exciting
Yeah I’m just doing the first two playing one until my brain fries then playing the other
I want to work on my raceshot score ngl
How long can you go in raceshot?
I did 2 laps + cleared the first room to the left on lap 3
What’s your guys’s average score, is 11 like almost impossible and the average is like 7 or are you guys consistently getting 9-10
I can go 2 laps, outside second room
Way more variables at play in an actual game. For an aim trainer it’s just clicking/tracking things. You’re making the targets appear bigger on your end than the avg user and it’s not seen as proper aim training technique so it’s disallowed or everyone would run it for the advantages it gives. Just think about it as in bigger/wider target = bad
Tasks were made with target sizes in mind, so you’re basically just playing a task with separate target size that weren’t intended to be used.
I play on xbox and i get top 2, top 10, top 26 (i working on it xd), in movement category and i cannot see my name on the leaderboard why?
Oh and im using mouse on the valorant preset settings
please somebody help to what to do and what im doing wrong because i dont know🥹
buddy is a "community member"
Commit unhere right now
mods? yall see this?
ur ass is not qualifiying for anything. give up, quit aiming.
Def not. I can’t even sit in my chair currently
ql? @undone depot
wtf? the ego lifting finally got u?
Aiir u cant help for me?🥺
Yea, messed my lower back up. Help with what? (Slowmode is so stupid)
Oh. Idk about console tbh
i write down little bit of top
Well, just letting you know. Using mouse doesn’t count toward prizes. It’s controller only. You might want to wait for yokai or something if scores aren’t showing up
Because the keyboard and mouse fully supported
Who is yokai?
Not for the event. It’s just controller. Says so in the rules
@raw jewel this guy. He’s being useless right now and sleeping or smth
He’s been gone for like 14 hours currently.
Oh okay, because i think the mouse leaderboard on console show me on pc leaderboard not on console leaderboard
Well, if you’re using mouse, you will be shown on mouse (pc) leaderboard.
You need to use controller to be shown on console (controller) leaderboard. They are separated
So i cant win anything?
if i cant win nothing its little bit of sad because i work on the maps about 4-5 hours
On mouse as far as I’m aware (like 99% sure), no. Got to use a controller
Just wouldn’t be fair to controller players since mouse is significantly easier to get a high score on. Most of (if not all of) the t10 on console will be on mouse if it was allowed
Okay but the aimlabs devs can do console mouse players to pc leaderboard and pc rewards
anyway thanks for the information
Part of it is getting better at aiming
Thats a point to😅
I cant wait to buy my first pc and play valorant on keyboard and mouse
Yeah I play valorant
People play Valorant?
Where do you play stuff from
I thought the game was dead ngl
No???
Oh
I immortal 1 on console valorant
But with the strong aim assist in focus mode is very easy
Yeah ik
I always play on keyboard and mouse i play some game controller with r6, gta, and story games, but fps games on controller not the best for me
Have great day guys
Yeah, you too
Have you guys seen the new defuseshot record? This guy is so slow and careful and clearly doesnt know what hes doing and still got first
ConsoleV?
dont listen to him, he wasn't slow at all
He got 10 bombs 3 targets with 100% accuracy, he just took a little bit more time on his shots to not miss them
140,322 score
he was pretty slow
go do it then
Thats not slow at all LOL thats just taking ur time with it, theres a reason why they got 100% accuracy
I am lol??
As of rn, until 11th bomb, that is literally a perfect run (minus bots hitting them ofc)
I just don't know why are you exaggerating that the world record is "so" slow, i know you will probably beat that score, but no need to talk down on it, i can also see why you think its slow looking at the replay
They got first, they earned it, thats what happened
Exactly tho, no reason to demean such a accomplishment
exactly
Yea fair enough im sorry I did exaggerate
fair play for taking longer just to get higher acc gg to him
all good, lets all beat that score by getting 11
slow. (im sub-100k)
Thh tho, now that u say that… technically that DOES mean 11th bomb is 100% possible
AY YOU ARE PURPLE NOW
what level did you get to earn purple?
it was always possible
Tru tru
Yea if he was a bit faster he defo would have gotten it so its 100% possible
certified yapster
but like ricso said im pretty sure we all knew it was possible, I think the real question is 12th bomb
I dont think so as of rn, time will tell
I think it's possible, you just need the right spawns for it, multiple middle spawns in a row
yes 9-10
4 is a condition for 11, so I think probably 6 for 12?
We need to make a sheet of where the bombs can spawn after they've been defused in a certain area.
I think all of us by now after playing for so long have realised that there are certain areas that they cant spawn in after being defused in one area
True, we could just completely break it down with theory, which sounds fun honestly, could also not do it here cause of the slowmode and image limitations
guys anyone know how i can report a bug ?
f1 ingame
Press f1 in game
ty
Love when im on pace to get a pb and then get the furthest possible bomb spawn
We love that here
How do you even get past the starting colour on this server
what level are you in the server? should be level 3 or 4 to get green
Idk how I did it lol
oh 5 im like 4
The purple kinda cool though I want that
grinding discord at the same time as defuse 😭
same
Same but also other tasks
Is there any way to check level
logi bot in dms
Also how is there a custom icon for this server
i got 10bombs + opened the 11th bomb but i exploded one of the bombs mid run lul
no way lmfao
Dammitttr
I want to get at least 140k in defuseshot but im always so unlucky
lul
Correct, Xbox is controller only, PC is mouse only. Don't try and emulate controller, your scores will just get removed.
Yes, we scaled the scores differently per platform to target 100k as a score that's achievable with enough grinding. Mouse can hit way more targets than controller, so had to scale them differently.
What's up?
?? Elaborate?
In surroundshot, is it allowed to change the Y-sensitivity to almost zero, so you only move horizontally which is only what's needed to turn around? Does it fall under the category of cheese-cheating if it's a sensitivity setting?
omfg I almost got 11th bomb 😭 instead panicked and missed 3 shots still a pb but so depressing
yay im green now
like 2 secs away from 11th bomb again
NO
Alr lol
i mean personally i wouldn't like it to be allowed because it is using cheese settings in a way, but it was heavily debated yesterday wether should it be allowed or not
we wanted to wait to hear a response from an official about it
@raw jewel when do you aim to remove the cheated scores like audioshot for example?
I think it should be allowed because I have a skill issue on that task
you can't use whatever fov you want
you can't stretch your screen out to make the targets bigger with a stretched res
and you can't exploit pauses
and you can't cheat in any other ways either
just play with integrity, follow the rules we laid out, and you're good
We remove cheated PC scores nightly, Xbox is a little different process, but rest assured all cheaters will be removed from the Xbox leaderboards as well.
Im not gonna do it, Im gonna do it the other way
Alright I just wanted to truly know my place on the leaderboard
So y sens 0 is on the table
yeah
@pale coyote in other way you mean the normal way?
Yes yes
I respect u
Id rather learn the right way yk? No disrespect to anyone doing it the other way but its more validating to me
@pale coyote @cloud stirrup @vital jetty 146,499k defusehot
11 bombs babyyyyyyyyyy
wtf gg
finally time for me to go to the gym, should be good motivation for you guys now
Btw where do u turn y sens off on settings
FINALLY
LETSGOO
controls, mouse, y-axis sensitivity gain
omg i gained like 4k overall score, such a healthy addition
Yea but my crosshair is above the targets
i know
so uhh how to fix??
i mean dont turn it to 0 but to a low enough value so u can move it down?
fair enough
12 bombs is possible though, so i will not stop playing it that's for sure
I jus got back from the gym bro get out
This might be the stupidest take I’ve seen. You’re completely removing a whole axis of aiming. I get the scenarios are supposed to be fun, but you’re also removing a big aim gap. This is a form of cheese that should not be allowed, almost as bad as FOV cheese.
If cheesing allowed. I cheese 😭
Aimlabs allows and disallows the most stupid stuff I swear. You can lock your crosshair along an axis, but you can’t change targets.
I know I don't want it to be allowed
Especially such a big part of aiming too. I’m starting to understand the whole “aimlabs isn’t an aim trainer” argument bcs wtf is this???
Love when I lock my mouse y in-game
probably cba to check more replays
pro tip dont play aimlab after gym i feel dreaded
noob tip, if you aimtrain after gym you get better at aimtraining after gym 200iq
Yea idk. We’ve basically made a task which is basically all click timing with a tiny bit of aim/flick control to only click timing
Hmm has anyone used that method to cheese already? Is it a significant score boost? I'm checking right now. If it's bad I might reconsider.
only the #1 score did it as far is I know
I might be cooked
#1 did it but also everyone "thinks" (knows) hes autoshooting with some program
The replay I DM’d you did it
I’d say it significantly increases score since you can flick as fast on any sens without worrying about your y axis or how straight the flick is at all.
It certainly lowers the skill ceiling
Imagine if someone did that in the s3 ranked task
The replays you sent look pretty questionable but for other reasons, not the y sens being 0.
Where you had to stay on head for more points
Anyways I just did an unofficial WR and hit 43 targets legit, 167,570 points
ayyyyyyy :D
It’s pretty blatant imo
i thought you were at the gym
sigma
You can watch him micro multiple times after his trigger bot already kills the target. I personally, would not micro after shooting lmao
i started my workout with dls and bench bro im cooked for aimlab today 😭
ahahahah you are at the gym rn?
no im trying to cook miserably on aimlab rn
its alright, this is a marathon, just train arms every day and by october you will be flicking lighting fast for audioshot trust
i finished like an hour ago but my chest is so tight i cant play
i dont need help with speed i need help with brain recognizing sound and clicking right one 😭
true that
failed 80k at 30s on surroundshot wouldve been +155 for sure
damn nt
Well
It's kinda complex defining the exact rule
But I'd say your guys's sentiment is correct, and using effectively 0 y sens for surroundshot is preetty cheesy.
Will work with the team to define the rule exactly - but yeah don't do it.
🙏
the issue is
well actually
i shouldn't even mention it here lol
don't wanna give anyone any ideas
Ahahahah
😭 the lengths people would go
I’ll accept it in my DMs thx
i mean theres a certain y axis % which people genuinly use and you cant rule that out right?
I wouldn’t cheese anyways. Not fun imo
Yea, prob this. They can instead of limiting it to 0, put it at a slightly larger number and have the sens only have the tiniest bit of vertical movement
gonna pretend i didnt read yokais message and get highscore rq
I feel like it’s pretty easy to tell between an obvious person doing just that and someone who plays on a lower Y
Yeaaaaaaa
Yeah probably lile 80%
So its official as of rn not allowed until said otherwise if ever said otherwise
yep
don't do it
it's under our discretion to determine if someone is trying to game the system or exploit
and in this case
i agree it's cheesing and i will be removing scores that try and abuse 0 y sens for surroundshot
BET, thanks
if there's anything else like this that comes up
please just let me know so I can make a call
overall though
i feel like it should be common sense - don't try and find loopholes, exploits, workarounds
play how you know the tasks are supposed to be played
and there's nothing to worry about
Who is number 1 at aiming in gplaydays
Waldoxyz
breaking news
Fr
Upd of the classement ?
Thank you so much for this!
We know it’s common sense to not utilizie loopholes, but it certainly has to be brought up and decided if it’s a 🧀-able offense
Ok
I tried surroundshot with the y axis off and imo its harder lol
@undone depot
???
?
I tried surroundshot with the y axis off and imo its harder lol
Feel like that’s until you get used to it
Also, you play on 22cm
lmfao
You are a horrible judge for this.
i just didnt bother including quotation marks, its not my msg. look up dumbass.
Bro really got upset about that one
its aiir :D he deserves it frfr
Ah.
reported :D
I disagree with it being harder. Maybe for them specifically ig
you liar man
Nah I think it is harder, mainly because at the start of the round I need to move my mouse down a lot just to get it in headshot level
the imgur links are crazy...
You can do that before you start the run.
Ratz next Friday/weekend```
😭 i was bing chillin on weekend sorryyyyyy
L yokai
youre a fraud fr
Look at community member noob
yap central out here
also please get in good health so we can lg
Are you 5 or something why do you keep repeating the phrase "yapping" when people are just making a statement
why are you getting tilted over it LOL
like I dont really care I just think its weird lol ive seen u say it a lot
im not getting tilted just this 15 second slowmode is annoying so I couldnt even finish what I was saying 😭
Bro wasn’t even talking abt you. 💀
well yea...? I realised that? he's never said it to me before, he just says it a lot to other people
you guys can have differnet opinions man just su
ive said it twice... what are you on about brother? i also know all these folks, so who cares?
Who are you? I don’t know you like that.
why are you pinging me? can you stop? i dont know you... youre freaking me out...
No
ok I think I got u confused my bad
insane how franz is just a better you at this point tbh
the fall off is generational
Speed running to iron. Almost there
What do u guys think is gonna be the prize for ultimate challenge
Unreleased mouse
Fr? That'd be sick
but the problem is its like top 500 so I dont think they'd give that many away
Nah, it adds up
$130-140 item per player in t500. I think they also said that it will be a mouse
its in the rules that top 500 get the mouse