Ranger ISSUES and suggested BUFFS

[loud tartan]

Windlord Rosmerta

• So rangers are in a terrible state right now being the worst dps class, here are some much needed buffs for the class to be in a better state.
  Double shot cast time and lockout are too high change to double attack values (double attack deals 4x damage over time vs double shot (over autoing instead) due to faster cast time lockout)
  Fix double shot damage gear to actually give damage, pretty straight forward. -main suggestions for a fix prob most important

Buff alternate skills (sharpshot double shot our only strong late game net damage gain skills), longshot when close to maxed as ranger is a net loss vs auto attack - (longshot useful early leavels falls off late game into being unusable) so is explosive arrow at basically all stages of game (buff scaling or lower cast time lockout massivly- is so bad becuase it deals less damage than total autos it stops you using)
Barbed shot, pretty bad skill long cast times its only just a net positive but a tiny one, needs far higher tick damage scaling- akin to rends (its equal in terms of cooldown tick speed, base dmg plus effect) - dmg loss ifmore than one ranger casts

Wouldn't say no to more scaling on steady aim sharpen wep (sharpen wep prob needs most) or time extention on skill.
explosive arrow, defensive spikes, camo and conceal are all next to useless at all stages in game.
Damage lost stat= lost dmg from auto attacks prevented by casting. total gained = average damage total casts skill in 15min- lost dmg

[sullen crane]

Double shot: change the lockout time to be the same as double attack. Double attack has a cast time of 1s and a lockout of 0.5s. Double shot has a cast time of 1s, and a lockout of 1.27-1.37s(depending on lag). This means that while double attack deals 2 autos of damage in 1.5s, double shot deals 2 autos of damage in ~2.3s, it is almost not worth using double shot over just autoing compared to rogue/warrior always using double attack. Difference between them is shown above with same stats.

Longshot: same idea, LS is super slow. has a cast time of 1s +35% of your attack speed, and a lockout of 1.27s. This means at minimum on heroic haste, longshot takes at least 2.67s to cast, and will pretty much never deal more than the 2.5 auto attacks you miss out on. Change the cast time to 0.5s + 35% attack speed, and the lockout to 0.5s.

[loud tartan]

Longshot even with high dd gear doesnt perform. and no bara- bara version even worse ss shown below (this one no bara next ss bara)

@amber sentinel so you can forward it to devs easily heres all ranger main issues in one place

[potent cedar]

I’d love for them to make steady aim and sharpen weapons last 3 minutes, like the fire/ice attune, and also stay on through death. With as many times as us rangers die at crom and others bosses, I find myself casting buffs more than I do fighting.

[sullen crane]

through death is unprecedented for player buffs, just die less but 3 mins yes

[loud tartan]

Ranger ISSUES and suggested BUFFS

[amber sentinel]

Thank you!!

[potent cedar]

It’s unprecedented to have the majority of a classes dps skills be dps losses in comparison to autos but rangers are just a special breed.

[loud tartan]

yeh its a sad state of play

[loud tartan]

with bara dmg added to both which a ranger at eg bosses would always use longshot becomes even worse

fully unplayable

barbs next to no gain

[loud tartan]

need an extra 5k dd so 7ktotal for it to be positive dmg.

[loud tartan]

and i mean speaks for itself

[distant flame]

Geez if ranger buffs are made, time to fight for rogue buffs

[brittle drift]

Geez if rogue buffs are made, time to fight for warrior buffs

[delicate quest]

Geez if Warrior buffs are made, time to fight for Mage buffs

[distant flame]

Do you even play this game. Seem like a fb bot 😉

[brittle drift]

Wouldnt doubt you with how long you spend on it

[twin gulch]

Fixing the range on longshot also, it’s extra range is worthless when you lock down stuck unable to use other skills at same range,
And when you get in range it gets interrupted,
And when a step closer you can’t cast it,
That’s without the damage issues it has in cast time vs autos

Double shot is too slow,

Having sharpen weapons and steady aim constantly needing refreshed takes needless time away, make steady aim permanent as passive or increase duration timers to both.

[twin gulch]

I think rogues need a rework ngl 😂

[distant flame]

Dps wise we don’t. But to have to stand under boss and have low armor hp and resists just is the worst. But let’s not take spotlight away from rangers atm 🙃 I did enough

[crimson tulip]

A war buff would mean simply nerf spear😂

[brittle drift]

Could also add pummel dd to warr dg and cg oh you know, like every other class does

[crimson tulip]

In their eyes rupture all the way

[brittle drift]

But ye wont derail the thread no mo

[loud tartan]

Bump -so it stays high in game suggestions list*

[severe remnant]

Plz buff rangers :))))

[lilac island]

Yeah, the buffs should last 3 minutes imo.
and hot take but sharpen weapons is kinda underpowered

[sullen crane]

240ish unscalable phys damage yipppeeeeee

[lilac island]

even with a max lure, ~80% is mitigated by the resists on most raids xD

[loud tartan]

true.

[potent cedar]

Yeah they need to make sharpen weapons and steady aim 3 minutes like attune. And I’d like to see double shot be faster also. I think they should make double shot and sharpshot have the same range as longshot to resolve that issue. Just make longshot do more damage and cast a little faster so it’s not complete garbage.

[twin gulch]

I think they need to slightly shorten range of longshot as well as increase range of double and sharp, middle them,
annoying as hell when cast longshot and mob is just out of aggro range to take damage from the hit.
Change the damage to 80% at close range only instead of it being be unusable

[potent cedar]

Lowering longshot damage ain’t the move lol

[twin gulch]

It’s not lowering it,
It’s just making it usable if too close where it’s currently unusable
So it could scale damage based on distance, rather than make unusable

[twin gulch]

Yeah piercing would be good, trouble is it’s a group skill, better if pierce with individual cast to anyone/self

[potent cedar]

Longshot isn’t even worth using as is so I’m saying lowering the damage for any circumstance makes it even more useless. Only time people use it as when a boss has some type damage barrier on.

[dark herald]

Just go for steady and sharpen time extension to be 3 min as att, and make dbl shoot be the same as dbl attack (I mean shouldn’t be hard ig just do copy paste most of the code) and fix the dbl shoot stats and bonuses on crom equipment and that should be enough for rangers ig

[sullen crane]

bump

[loud tartan]

x2

[lilac island]

Any updates?
Ranger is completely broken, our jewellery with double shot still doesn't work either...

[amber sentinel]

Hey, I'm very sorry. There aren't any updates yet. I'll remind them

[lilac island]

[crimson tulip]

Put the dmg of the double shot dd same dmg as skewer dd
The skewer dd works fine

[sullen crane]

[acoustic stream]

The double attack on guerrilla brace and the quickstrike & shadow strike on the vested blight ring still doesn’t work too @amber sentinel

[ebon turtle]

Which program is this

And how accurate is it

[lilac island]

it's pretty accurate

[loud tartan]

This dudes website

[amber sentinel]

Thank you, I'll forward this as well.

[opal rune]

No t3 imp and steed on it

[lilac island]

I don't have the formulas for them

plus i stopped developping it since I have no time.
One day I want to integrate a full char builder of some sorts and let's you select swaps per skill.

but that prob wont happen, but would be very cool

[loud tartan]

Even the ch database character builder is missing a bunch of stuff Tbf, but that was only ever good at working out base stats didn’t have anything for skills

[ebon turtle]

Name?

[lilac island]

https://new-ch-dmg-calc.vercel.app/

[lilac island]

not for warriors tho

just mage/druid/ranger

[ebon turtle]

Damn

[loud tartan]

Trial and error always valid strat time yourself soloing one mob smthing like ow aggy crystal try diff builds see what does best

Mainly just bumping tho 😉

[loud tartan]

bump since double shot/attack chat soon

[livid surge]

How bout just nerf other classes and give rangers only the absolutely needed buffs like longshot

Longshot is my most favorite skill in the game, I used to love using it in arena PvP. Sniping people tryna run away and pinning them with high dmg

It’s too bad in a boss dps scenario where it’s a stand still button mashing marathon it falls off a cliff cause it can’t keep up with hasted autos and faster skills

Game balance is so f’d up thanks to years of buffs. Lower resists, lure sources absolutely everywhere, giving rogues shadowstrike, letting sword warriors use rupture, the insta cast update that made fb/ls/qs/sharp/pummel insta cast, premium mounts/pets… on top of horrendous power creep and mountains of swaps… it needs to stop somewhere and devs need to take game balancing seriously if they want to have a serious endgame.

Notice how nothing in there exclusively benefited ranger as well.

[light leaf]

dont buff longshot i just sold my extra longshot junk

just make double shot op