⚽︱matchday-chat

[tired dawn]

Hansi flick didn't even want Lamine taking it

[bronze berry]

rapha comming back from injury was our most dangerous player throughout the time he played

he is our penalty he should’ve taken that penalty

[split wraith]

because raphinha gave it to him WILLINGLY?? lmfao

[vagrant sage]

let it happen peak song

[orchid karma]

It works perfectly when we're pressing well in the middle and front. Not so much when the team is so disjointed. He needs to stop being so stubborn and save our season. It's all on him now. He's the captain guiding the ship. He either gets everyone to the shore or brings everyone down with him.

[bold girder]

i get ur point but even if he scored that penalty it would still be 2-2 so basically it’s just the whole teams fault atp

[marble gyro]

Against a team like girona of course its shit performance, but this just reflects this will not change its a pattern unless the high line is changed not completely abandoned we can compete more

[midnight temple]

exactly

[storm crest]

He still insisted on giving it to lamine for some odd reason

[wary shadow]

this is so sad and devastating

[tired dawn]

I rather salvage a point

Than lose 3 to girona.

[marble gyro]

Maybe due to straining the muscle accidentally

[storm crest]

I believe with all of my heart that we’ll come back, until then I’ll preach exiling this high line or flick is out

[tired dawn]

Point is, the high line is finished and our players don't want it bad enough.

[fierce trench]

i believe hansi will turn this around

[hazy talon]

Ideas could’ve changed so could’ve morale during the game

[bronze berry]

probably cuz yamal was having a bad game

[long stratus]

I do think Flick wants to change it, he just can't change it right now. He didn't have the room to do it before, even after the Atlético Madrid loss, because everyone agreed Atlético played a special set of tactical instructions that game. He's dealing with a very, very poor team in terms of squad depth, you can't change everything without the room to change something first, if you get what I mean.

[midnight temple]

Girona wouldn’t be in the same state of mind if he had scored

[hazy talon]

Hansi flick just needs to change the system he’s a really good manager

[storm crest]

That’s even more of a reason for Rapha to take it

[marble gyro]

Flick wont be out, right players can make him a tactical genuis like last season, so im going to bed now

[storm crest]

Gn

[midnight temple]

yeah i see what you mean

[fierce trench]

i think flick maybe now or in one or more matches will accept that, will bring changes

[long stratus]

Yamal is overworked, depressed and lacking confidence, giving him the penalty was just a calculated risk to try and mitigate that by boosting his confidence temporarily

I don't blame Raphinha for doing that, it's what I would've done too

[bold girder]

let’s just accept that the whole team besides rapha was genuinely awful and that they really need to find a solution for this problem

[orchid karma]

It's his job to adapt in tough situations. Backroom backroom bah blah blah. You're sounding like a f bot now.

[tired dawn]

Highline doesn't work anymore, we've seen it against Madrid, Atletico, Sociedad, and now Girona.

[midnight temple]

unfortunately it didn’t work, but it was NOT a bad risk to take

[long stratus]

Do you work in coaching?

[bold girder]

yk it’s bad when rapha who just came back from an injury is the best player

[tired dawn]

If we're losing to Girona. Then we're no better than the teams in the playoffs.

[fierce trench]

i don't think barcelona backroom is against flick for now, thing about eric he just seem very frustrated about the team form

[long stratus]

It was a very calculated risk, I don't think it was a mistake, nor would I change anything if I had the chance to get back. Sometimes losses are necessary as a wake up call.

[midnight temple]

every team has a dip in form, this is a wake up call for them

[orchid karma]

Shut up. Just because I'm not a coach doesn't mean I can't form a logical opinion

[long stratus]

I asked a question because I was going to refer you to the CRC, not because I was questioning your ability to form coherent arguments

[wicked ginkgo]

what happend in thiss match ffs

[midnight temple]

not a mistake at all, Yamal missed and that’s it, nothing else to say

[latent terrace]

Ah

[bold girder]

our ahh defense happened

[long stratus]

Yamal needs to get his ears pinched a little, not literally, but a loss could be what he needs, in all honesty. He missed a penalty, so what? It's not the end of the world, there's still an entire half of the season to go, if you lose, you lose. Move on. Learn, adapt, keep your head up high.

[orchid karma]

Bro I don't care about the damn crc. I care about Barca and what's happening with the team currently. Btw, I don't want flick out. He's the best we got now. However, he deserves a lot of criticism atm

[long stratus]

Makes no sense to shit on a 18-year-old just because he missed a penalty and is undergoing a confidence crisis, every player goes through it, being rude about it won't help

[midnight temple]

yep

people are very quick to turn on their own team for things like this

[long stratus]

The CRC is a very, very large database pool of statistics, analytics and listings that'd really help you see what's happening, unfortunately it's only accessible by coaches at the moment, though UEFA might make it public in a few months. I agree that he deserves criticism, it's just not a good idea to say he's the primary issue.

[storm crest]

Flick has been really weird lately

I don’t have as much confidence and trust in him

[midnight temple]

i don’t see any changes from him

[storm crest]

He’s very stubborn

[long stratus]

A good ol' loss to a worse team never fails to kick the bucket a little, I just hope Flick can turn that loss into an inspiration for the squad to start treating football as a passion rather than a chore, if that makes sense

[storm crest]

I want the best for Barca and if that meant a sacking flick is what’s best then that’s that

[long stratus]

He's very good at doing that, it's just a question of whether Flick will seize the opportunity or not

[bold girder]

guys no worrys we will be back soon, every team struggles sometimes in the season but they will come back stronger if they can accept the defeats and focuse on what they can do better

[midnight temple]

he’s got a very obvious chance to do so

[storm crest]

Of course

[maiden ravine]

i guess the refs js against us now

[storm crest]

The laliga refs have been shit for months now

It’s been occurring in many games

Hate to admit it but even in Madrid games

[long stratus]

Sacking Flick would likely result in a complete collapse, you need stability and continuance right now, even if you appointed a new manager, nothing would change. You're dealing with a broken down squad that's plagued by injuries and loss of confidence crisis, you can change the tactics, yes, but if the players don't want to play using those tactics or don't feel confident enough, you're still going to be screwed.

[midnight temple]

i would just like him to play with a more conservative defense to mitigate the damage

[maiden ravine]

one of their penaltys were similar to the one when we were supposed to get against atletico

[long stratus]

It's better to just stick with the manager for now, try to rebuild some of that confidence, use the loss as an inspiration while gradually adapting to a change in tactical planning

[storm crest]

I don’t believe flick should be sacked it’s just a hypothetical really

[midnight temple]

that’s an immediate change that i think would help in the short term while trying to find a more sustainable solution

[sand path]

If you think Flick needs to leave ur stupid

[storm crest]

No one does

[maiden ravine]

we need to try and sign van de ven

[long stratus]

Could always play with a more defensive mentality, but that's going to cause a lot of issues without Pedri

[storm crest]

We need experienced defenders

[bronze berry]

imagine this game with terstatue in goal

[storm crest]

Would be an even bigger shit show

[midnight temple]

we concede too much chances anyway, might as well have a defense to stop them

[bronze berry]

5-1 girona win

[long stratus]

You need someone in the midfield who can really dictate the games tempo, tie the defense and offense together, drive the ball, really just be the engine of the team, all while assisting with the defense, that's what Pedri has done in the past under Hansi Flick. It's going to be very difficult to play with a more defensive outlook when you don't have the engine for that.

[bronze berry]

1st 20 mins were insane it was kick and run football up and down the pitch

[orchid karma]

I'm sure you've read all the issues mentioned, but I'll list them again. Lack of finishing, injuries, REFS, kounde, no pressing. However, the big losses against big teams have been largely on Flick. His refusal to adapt when things are not working out has caused the team a lot. Possible titles. If he dropped the high line against atleti at 2-0 we would.not be talking about needing 5 goals remontada.

[long stratus]

Yeah, it's just a risk right now

[storm crest]

One thing that should change is Olmo starting

[paper plinth]

💯

[storm crest]

He’s only been good off the bench

He shouldn’t be a starter

[shut hinge]

lets be honest , lamine played like sht today

[surreal meteor]

The pick of night

[storm crest]

He did

[coral swan]

Ohmygod

Rma is first

Games gone

[midnight temple]

we are too dependent on Pedri tbh, we need more flexibility

[bronze berry]

why did we drop a 4231 to play a 433 with two cams it obv dont work

[dim mirage]

true

[coral swan]

:✅

[storm crest]

And lamine, we’re overworking the both of them

[coral swan]

Fully agree

[dim mirage]

Yeah

[shut hinge]

people are just over hyping him

[coral swan]

Ngl raphinha should've token the pen bro

Whyd yamal take it

[blissful ginkgo]

why cant i speak in chat

[long stratus]

Do you really need to take the risk of switching to a defensive mentality before Pedri can return? That's the question that Flick has likely asked himself right now, and he doesn't think it's necessary, it honestly isn't either. You've got a chance to win the league, even with the loss that happened today, when Pedri comes back you can safely switch to a more balanced, defensive outlook on individual matches, knowing that you've got the engine and supports for that

[storm crest]

You see how kounde most of the time just passes back to lamine even when he’s pressured by defenders?

[burnt depot]

Barca falling apart after one player being injured is not good

[surreal meteor]

Hello my friend

[storm crest]

He’s insufferable

[coral swan]

Cubarsi did good today tho.

[storm crest]

Yes

[midnight temple]

we can’t keep on relying on one formula, Flick should work on a plan b tactical approach

[long stratus]

Calculated risk to try and mitigate the mental issues he's been under

[surreal meteor]

That is cereal

[storm crest]

We need a mindset change

[coral swan]

Oh

[storm crest]

Our players have to have some sort of ego or drive

We can’t stay like this

[orchid karma]

You don't think it's necessary after conceding 6 goals in 2 games?!?!?! Lol

[coral swan]

Knowing rma they'll draw the next games

So barca can somehow go back to first

[long stratus]

You'd concede more without an midfield engine because you'd lose more second and first balls from passes

[storm crest]

That leaves 3 points for us to get, we’d be first by goal difference but I doubt they’re gonna tie

[restive carbon]

idk man will they

[midnight temple]

just watching them play is scary, i mean look at when cubarsi was at the front, when we lost the ball everyone was panicking

[restive carbon]

im starting to lose hope

[long stratus]

It's a question that we can't answer because of the lack of information we're presented with, Flick made a decision, whether it was the right one or not is up to individual interpretation

[coral swan]

Yea, but ngl I'm losing hope back to back Losses

[orchid karma]

Hey! Stop this blasphemy!

[coral swan]

Same here man

[bronze berry]

got school in 3 hours I really stayed up Just to see this performance

[coral swan]

Disasterclass

[full notch]

https://tenor.com/view/barcelona-barça-bandera-banderas-flag-gif-2278669955169437437

[storm crest]

Yes, I’ve never felt this stressed watching a Barca match before

[primal crow]

Lets not be arsenal pleaseeeeee

[split wraith]

this deadarse feels like a filler season and its like were just trying to get thru the season to World Cup

[midnight temple]

am i wrong? we don’t have any peace of mind when even one of our players is injured

[cloud harbor]

I won my bet thanks to Barca

[midnight temple]

we can’t keep on doing this

[orchid karma]

Get real bro. No one is asking to park the bus with a lower backline we'd be a lot safer wouldn't have to chase counter attacks for 90 mins

[storm crest]

As long as we do good I honestly don’t mind losing the league

[orchid violet]

Flick playing same tactic for months and still cant see its shit

[storm crest]

We just need to pick up the pace

[primal crow]

We Need to captilaze out chances

[blissful ginkgo]

barca fans discovering 2nd season flick (2026) (colorized)

[midnight temple]

we’re playing the high line but don’t get enough offsides from it

[long stratus]

He missed it, so what? Nobody's going to care in two months, what matters right now is how the fans, the manager, and more importantly the players, take this result. Will the result be used by Hansi Flick to inspire a turnaround, to give the room necessary to actually make changes with the full backing of the squad, or will it just go to waste? It's a question that's going to be asked a lot in the next few days, in fact it's already being asked, so we'll see

[midnight temple]

that alone is a major problem

[primal crow]

Inigo...

[storm crest]

Flick is a mad man

[orchid karma]

You're 10000000% right. I was being sarcastic. Every attack we concede is a 50 50 goal chance. This clown show needs to stop immediately before it's too late for everyone

[coral swan]

True, well said

[primal crow]

Tbh we should be more concerned abt the election

[storm crest]

Im gonna go now, good luck for our next match

[long stratus]

I'd get using the high line if you're outscoring opponents, having critical, clinical finishing, combined with an workhorse of a defense, the issue is that Barça has none of that

[storm crest]

Good bye chat

[coral swan]

Cya

[long stratus]

Right now anyway

[orchid karma]

Losing the league to this Madrid will be the biggest embarrassment

[storm crest]

True.

[long stratus]

It had that in the first half of the season, just completely collapsed after December (perhaps even earlier) because of squad depth and chemistry issues

[primal crow]

We Need to put less pressure on yamal

[midnight temple]

that’s what i’ve been saying, the past months no one was complaining because we were outscoring the risks that the high line poses

but it was really obvious that the defense was shit

[restive carbon]

im not complaining or anything i just dont understand how the 1st girona goal wasnt offside. Maybe something i dont understand i just want explanantion

[primal crow]

Put araujo on

Give him playtime

[midnight temple]

now that the attack is having a dip in form, it’s become too obvious

[primal crow]

Kounde cb

[orchid karma]

That's a whole another mess that could be the start of the final downfall of the team. All they need is another fartomeu

[long stratus]

The high line worked for a bit because the defense worked in tandem with the offense to create copious amounts of obviously scorable chances, the workhorse mentality of the defense just started disappearing because they got complacent thinking the attack could outscore opponents even without the necessary workload being put onto the defense

[primal crow]

Listen araujo,Balde,Kounde cb,Cancelo

[long stratus]

It's not just Barça either tbf

[primal crow]

Perfect

Cubarsi can play in the u23

[long stratus]

Almost every top six club is going into some sort of issue with squad chemistry or mentality, even Arsenal has shown blips of it, which is surprising given Arteta is.. well.. Arteta

[midnight temple]

the offense was shit too, Ferran has shown us horrors, and that alone is enough to justify having a better defense

we were very lucky tbh

[long stratus]

Why is Torres even starting ahead of Lewandowski

[primal crow]

I mean Girona had more shots on target than us with half Total shots

[long stratus]

I don't get it

[midnight temple]

BROOO THATS WHAT IM SAYING

it’s just insane

[primal crow]

Idk if lewa has time in the legs

[long stratus]

Lewa is fine

[primal crow]

I mean he Is a bit old

[storm crest]

Both are terrible options, we need a new striker

[midnight temple]

ppl tell me that ferran is better, i can’t fathom that

[long stratus]

Flick just probably wants to give Torres game time to develop

[long stratus]

Lewandowski is not a terrible option, he's not great, but he's also not terrible

His conversion rate is pretty high

[midnight temple]

the only reason that he is playing is because he generates more chances than Lewy

[storm crest]

I don’t find him pleasing, his ball control has been very sloppy lately too

[midnight temple]

problem is that Lewy, while he generates fewer chances, is a way better finisher

[primal crow]

Hey lets not be too sad we played today cause we dont have the playoffs tmr

[long stratus]

It's stupid, Barcelona doesn't need to create more chances, the squad already generates copious amounts without Ferran Torres being present in the squad, they need to work on finishing the chances, that's where Robert Lewandowski has a massive upper leg

[orchid karma]

I would drop both and play Fermin, olmo, or roony as false nine.

[split wraith]

he runs like he got a backpack on too, unc is finished

[storm crest]

We’re probably signing a new striker by next season but who would it be

[midnight temple]

exactly

[primal crow]

Yamal is Always good we Need a real striker like rapha to put the ball into the net

[cloud harbor]

Siuu

[midnight temple]

we need to finish, generating is useless when we miss all of it

[primal crow]

Today he didnt play good but yh

[storm crest]

Raphinha I think has had a dip in confidence lately

[long stratus]

Yamal was the sole creative outlet against Atlético, I don't even need to bring up how shit that game was

[storm crest]

The fact that he gave that pen to lamine just shows.

He’s not confident

[long stratus]

Reliance on one player, especially a 18-year-old dealing with confidence issues, is just a setup for failure

[primal crow]

We refuse to accept It but pedri Is our top 1 player

Say all you want

Top 2 Is yamal rapha Is 3

[long stratus]

You're going to have two players marking him, he'll be blocked half the time, and even when he does get the rare chance to do something, it'll probably be wasted due to poor finishing from the squads forwards

[primal crow]

That puts us 1 man up

Tho

[long stratus]

Yes but that doesn't matter when the players don't want to take calculated risks

The Atletico game was the most annoying game I've ever watched

[primal crow]

I mean this wasnt good either tbh

[midnight temple]

one thing that i don’t really understand with Yamal’s position is how far wide he is

[long stratus]

Well, yes. You can win without Yamal, you have Roony. You can win without Raphinha, you have Rashford. You can't win without Pedri because he's the engine of the team, you've got nobody to replace him that can rise up to the level of pressure, counterpressures, passing accuracy and ability, whatever, he's currently at.

[primal crow]

False 9 doesnt sound so bad tbfh

I mean give him more space

Not a Classic winger

[midnight temple]

i genuinely think that he would work better with a more free role

[long stratus]

I'm surprised Barça managed to win so many matches without Pedri tbf

Kinda thought y'all would kick the bucket sooner

[storm crest]

I think what caused a dip in lamine’s confidence is what flick said about raphinha last season, he shouldn’t even be saying stuff like that.. as a manager you should be intelligent enough to not compare your players to eachother

[midnight temple]

joan is keeping the team from falling completely apart

[primal crow]

Pedri would have 50 assists this season with mbappe striker

[midnight temple]

i mean look at how much chances we concede

[primal crow]

Yamal same

[split wraith]

we've seen glimpses of that against real betis, him at CAM gave out spaces

[long stratus]

His comments about Raphinha probably didn't change anything

[fluid plaza]

Lies, Messi tried that at psg

[storm crest]

Might’ve caused some tensions

[long stratus]

Yamal is 18, he's played 90 minutes for weeks on end, all while being shit talked by everyone and their mothers

[orchid karma]

He's a legend. Those quick reaction saves are super human stuff

[primal crow]

Cause mbappe was being a greddy fat kid

[midnight temple]

mbappe would’ve destroyed the dressing room

[long stratus]

The coach saying Raphinha was the best last season pales in comparison to the mental torment and pressure he's had to endure

[storm crest]

Still that adds even more pressure, you can’t just ignore that

[primal crow]

Mmm i dont think Flick would allow that

[long stratus]

That added pressure isn't changing anything, though.

[neat laurel]

Assisinate perez shoot through his neck I want 100% of his blood on the floor or just get some hitmen to do the job bet that old cunt'd be easy to kill with bare fists just choke his neck

[storm crest]

? Literally how

[long stratus]

Yamal was already in a confidence sink at the start of this month, that was before any comments got made

[midnight temple]

he’s being associated to the story about Fati’s brother for no reason, that would have a greater impact

[midnight temple]

wanted to reply to the other message

[storm crest]

That cryptic instagram story was posted right after that comment was made public, I would assume there’s a correlation

[orchid karma]

Ok calm down there Osama

[long stratus]

You're saying that a single comment about a player who performed the best, statistically, out of anyone in the squad coming from a coach is going to change things drastically in regard to a overworked, very fragile, still developing 18-year-old that's subject to abuse everywhere

[midnight temple]

i mean Flick wasn’t wrong

[storm crest]

Doesnt mean he should say that

Don’t divide players

Don’t compare

[midnight temple]

true but i doubt that Yamal would be so affected by that

[primal crow]

Imagine bottling a top 3 spot in the ucl conceding a last minute goal to the goalkeeper and going to the playoffs 😂

[split wraith]

that ig story is prob about the spanish media using his name and images about accusation on assaulting a woman

[midnight temple]

yeah

[long stratus]

I'm not a Barça fan, so it's not my place to talk about how the fan base should behave, but turning on a very, very clearly distraught 18-year-old who's given it his all for the past two years and has been the subject to fabricated stories is something that I just wouldn't tolerate

[storm crest]

The guy is clearly struggling he needs mental help

[midnight temple]

yamal is not the problem, he’s the one showing better things than most of the team

[primal crow]

Send him 2-3 year tel Aviv and forget

[neat laurel]

I'm serious

[primal crow]

We Need a striker a decent

[long stratus]

I know fellow Atlético fans wouldn't tolerate it, because that's just downright ridiculous. Yamal is clearly struggling mentally, instead of constantly saying "Oh, he's performing so badly. He missed a penalty again!", maybe support him during the time when he needs support the most?

[midnight temple]

a fast finisher

[long stratus]

The guy has given his entire career to Barça ffs

[primal crow]

Someone Who Is not either Ferran or lewa

I mean lewa Is not bad but yh

[midnight temple]

actually i think that Rashford, with enough form, would be able to fill that role

[primal crow]

Im scared they Will sell him this summer tbfh

[long stratus]

The way he's been started constantly means he's going to be plagued by injuries in a few years, so he's both figuratively and literally given his entire career to the club. He's 18, he's got a long road ahead of him, missing one penalty isn't the end of the world

[unborn frost]

IM FREEWE FROM COOLDOWN

[midnight temple]

never lmaoo that’s not happening

[unborn frost]

VAMOS

[long stratus]

That ain't happening

[frail tendon]

Someone infected this chat too with madridistas bro😭

[primal crow]

I Hope so but you know if another president wins....

[midnight temple]

that’s basically suicide

[long stratus]

If Laporta loses and that egomaniacal chap wins, then you're screwed

No matter if Yamal gets sold or not, you're going to be very, very screwed

[orchid karma]

Oh please noooooooooooo

[unborn frost]

it was ilia he secretly sent us invites to take over from the inside👀

[midnight temple]

Laporta isn’t losing in my opinion

[fast goblet]

Cap we all barca fans here ALL OF US

[unborn frost]

keep it on the low tho

[primal crow]

When is the election?

[frail tendon]

13th march?

Or 15th

[long stratus]

I'm sure you'd love to spend 125mn on a striker that doesn't fit into the teams composition, but you're literally and figuratively screwed if a guy who's entire campaign has been, "I'll sign this superstar that doesn't actually fit into the team", wins the presidential election

You'd literally become Real Madrid 2.0 in terms of transfer policy at that point

[primal crow]

Why does everytime cubarsi scores we lose 😭

[midnight temple]

is Laporta losing even possible ? i don’t think that the socios are dumb enough to do that

we can’t have a bartomeu repeat

[frail tendon]

I think there was some poll like a year ago asking if barca fans like laportas plan and like 90% voted yes

[long stratus]

I don't support Barcelona, I'm a lifelong Atlético Madrid fan, but I want Barcelona to thrive for the good of Spanish football. I genuinely hope Laporta gets elected again, you guys need stability and continuance, not another spending spree with money that you don't have

[primal crow]

Watch another president win and then run away After 6 months with 100 Mil in debt

[fluid plaza]

Take me back please 🙏, also I’m stuck in a train station and lost my wallet. Send me a dm to help me out (real Pablo torre)

[midnight temple]

man i don’t think that i would be able to continue supporting this team

[primal crow]

@long stratus are you are you coming to the Camp nou?😭

[long stratus]

Me? Possibly soon

[frail tendon]

😭

[primal crow]

Nice

[storm crest]

You know we’ve clearly messed up when we’re conceding to salvia prague

[primal crow]

0 chance 100 delusion

[orchid karma]

I wouldn't mock Madrid like that. It would be bartomeu all over again record signings to flop immediately and sink the club

[frail tendon]

If there's delusion there chance

[long stratus]

It's not mocking

[midnight temple]

it’s true

[primal crow]

I mean im jealous of Perez tbfh he manages everyting perfect with no debt

[long stratus]

I'm going to the Metropolitano in a few to watch a game, I don't think I'll catch the return leg of the Copa Del Rey fixture at the Camp Nou, but I might just go to Barcelona for the fun of it

[midnight temple]

Madrid throws money everywhere and expects it to work, sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn’t

[primal crow]

He bought bellingam vini mbappe Valverde

[frail tendon]

With laporta we could get out of debt in the next 5 years

[long stratus]

Might as well explore a few cities, idk

[long stratus]

RMA has debt

Every club has debt

[storm crest]

Projected 5 years could be even longer

[midnight temple]

they are just not in crippling dept

[primal crow]

I mean not like us tho we are down in the 1:1 rule

[long stratus]

Well, not yet

[orchid karma]

I mean at least their big spending somehow works. But Barca spending under bartomeu was beyond disastrous

[long stratus]

Their revenues are decreasing

[primal crow]

Arbeoula Is a fraud tbh

[frail tendon]

2 pens was wild

[primal crow]

Mbappe the real manager

[long stratus]

Expenditure is increasing, though. Not sure how they're going to manage that.

[primal crow]

And the fact vini didnt miss any if more crazy

[midnight temple]

perez would announce the hyper league at that point

[long stratus]

He tried that already, it backfired and now he's treated as a psychopath in the coaching world lol

[storm crest]

I think this match was a breaking point for all Barca fans

[primal crow]

I like the super league it would be peak

[storm crest]

And a wake up call

[long stratus]

It'd kill football

[gaunt gazelle]

Yeah

[midnight temple]

he is a psychopath

[storm crest]

We need to realize we’re not winning anything with this high line

[split wraith]

perez deadarse sold some percentage of the club to coverup his debts

[gaunt gazelle]

We need too bounce back

[long stratus]

I don't like the domestic leagues, honestly. They need to be reformed extensively, especially when it comes to officiating, but the super league would kill it all

[midnight temple]

treats madrid like a business more than a football team

[frail tendon]

I still have faith we can win the leauge and make a comeback and even go far in the UCL the season is nowhere over

[long stratus]

Manchester City was 11 points off Arsenal a few seasons ago when they won the treble, never say never

[gaunt gazelle]

We need Pedri

[cloud harbor]

Guys Clav got Framemogged by ASU Frat leader wth

[long stratus]

Pedri is coming back, Rashford is back, you've got a high output in the academy

You can do it, it'll depend on the El Clasico though

[primal crow]

Remember when we had a whole season fully fit pedri

[midnight temple]

league will probably happen if something clicks soon

[storm crest]

Not this again

[gaunt gazelle]

If we loose that we are done

[frail tendon]

Can yall give us the win at Metropolitan in la liga

[primal crow]

Gavi should be back next week 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[long stratus]

No

We will purposely make the pitch as shitty as humanely possible

[frail tendon]

Awh

[cloud harbor]

What's more likely between Androgenic Framemogging the ASU frat leader or Barca winning laliga ?

[frail tendon]

Yall aren't even fighting for the leauge though

[storm crest]

First option

[gaunt gazelle]

THE FRICKING DEFENSIVE STRUCTURE OF OUR SQUAD NEEDS TOO WAKE UP

[midnight temple]

that’s some high level bullshit😭😭😭😭 why was it so bad

[primal crow]

I think you already did that trick once

[long stratus]

Yeah but winning against big teams makes us feel important

[frail tendon]

High line must go

[primal crow]

Nah

[long stratus]

Rain, plus the groundskeeping crews didn't upkeep the pitch before the match due to "weather related" reasons

[primal crow]

We Need the High line but Flick has to understand when yo use It not every game

[storm crest]

Kounde ALWAYS passes the ball to yamal even when he’s pressured expecting a miracle to happen

[long stratus]

Which is funny considering the pitch was redone directly after the match without any problem

It's not cheating if you don't get caught 😂

[midnight temple]

it was possibly done on purpose 😭

[primal crow]

Joao Is Better in offense

[frail tendon]

I mean I believe in flick and I hope he makes new tactics and even if possible modify the high line to make it better

[long stratus]

100% lol

[storm crest]

Ehhhh

[primal crow]

We gonna make the Camp nou full of dirt

[midnight temple]

yamal was sliding all over the place it was unwatchable

[primal crow]

No grass

[frail tendon]

The real madrid game in la liga as at camp nou

[primal crow]

Using ice

[frail tendon]

Which is good

[primal crow]

Yep

Cooking those frauds

[long stratus]

Not just Yamal

Everyone was falling, tripping, sliding

[storm crest]

I just hope lamine doesn’t feed into the hatred

[long stratus]

It was like a gokart match with a football

[frail tendon]

Also ample I hope we beat yall even at Metropolitan we need that win

[primal crow]

Prob barca would have had more chance winning a go kart race walking then doing a remondada

[frail tendon]

But can yall beat madrid tho for us

[primal crow]

The season Is still very very long

[long stratus]

Rule 1 of beating depression as a player is not paying attention to hate, or if you're going to pay attention to it, turn it into inspiration to silence said hate with good performances

[primal crow]

Lets not forget thst

[long stratus]

Hell no

[storm crest]

Well said

[long stratus]

We're going to concede 2 goals and remontada to 4-2, just to concede two penalties in the dying minutes

Classic Atlético

[primal crow]

I Remember that script

Hehe

Without the pens

[long stratus]

It was 5-2 but yh

Maybe

[primal crow]

Nah 4-2 last season with us

[long stratus]

Alvarez is so bad, it's borderline close to making me cry sometimes

[primal crow]

Do you want Ferran?

[long stratus]

I'd rather have Ferran than Alvarez atp

Genuinely can't finish chances even if the net is empty

[primal crow]

He really said that

Mate Watch a Ferran game

[frail tendon]

Awh

[long stratus]

I do

You should watch Atlético play in the league

[primal crow]

He gets 3017382828 assists from yamal and cant finish one

[long stratus]

You'll see why every Atlético fan has been on anxiety meds for the past two years

[primal crow]

There Is no way someone can be worse than ferran

I refuse to believe it

[long stratus]

Well you're in for a surprise

[storm crest]

We’re not coming back against atletico

[long stratus]

Actually it depends

[storm crest]

Theres just no way

[long stratus]

How much are you willing to pay Oblak 😂

[primal crow]

@long stratus we'll give you Ferran for a win 5-0 in the Camp nou

[long stratus]

Oblak having a bad game might actually happen against Barça tbf, he's performed rather poorly against Barça historically

[fluid plaza]

If we play Diego kochen we might have a chance

[long stratus]

Sounds fine with me

[frail tendon]

Yall should play guilliano lookman and Alvarez in attack against them

[primal crow]

Y'alls so lucky to have lookman

[long stratus]

That we are

[primal crow]

You have no idea

[long stratus]

Lookman deserves the world, and maybe even the moon, the hope he's injected into this godforsaken club is overwhelming

[primal crow]

Is he on loan?

Idk

[split wraith]

nah

[long stratus]

Our fan base went from thinking we'd get smashed by Club Brugge to thinking we could get to the UCL final in less than two days

😭

[primal crow]

You Will get battered 6-1 in the Camp nou

[long stratus]

I hope so

I need Alvarez gone

[primal crow]

Wow thats crazy statement

[long stratus]

And preferably Simeone, that guy does not know how to adapt properly in the league

[shrewd geyser]

Yall still up?

[long stratus]

Short-term pain, long-term gain

[frail tendon]

We need to score 4 goals in 90 minutes without conceding

[shrewd geyser]

Aint in midnight?

[primal crow]

Conceding Is our favorite part of the game

[primal crow]

Yep

[shrewd geyser]

Why yall still up

[primal crow]

Why are you up then?

[shrewd geyser]

Idk

[primal crow]

Same

[shrewd geyser]

Just wanted to check smth

Btw...

Did u pray today?

[primal crow]

Yes

[shrewd geyser]

Ok good boy

Now i shall leave

Throughout heavens and earth I alone am the honored one

[glacial creek]

Downfall began after flick said ask Madrid

[long stratus]

@midnight temple guess we got the answer to the entire "will they use this as inspiration to inspire change" question

[midnight temple]

thank God for Joan

the defense absolutely needs to wake up

midfield needs to play their part too, the team looks like everyone wants to be an attacker

[long stratus]

It kinda looked like the team was just exhausted too

Physically and emotionally if you know what I mean

[midnight temple]

that’s true

[long stratus]

I hope they get a day or two off to recover, then jump into training with a renewed focus and a central point of inspiration

[split wraith]

flick said he giving them day offs for two days

[latent silo]

5 actually

[quick quest]

we just need to outscore the team which we failed to do and missed many chances

thats basically flicks idea of football

[midnight temple]

they need it, Flick should take that time to find a solution

[midnight temple]

that is just not sustainable

[quick quest]

okay then we cant have flick

its either that or no flick

[midnight temple]

flick has to adapt

[long stratus]

?

[quick quest]

thats flicks philosophy and you either support it or you dont

[long stratus]

That's not Flicks philosophy

[split wraith]

yall want flick gone so bad but for WHO

[midnight temple]

man Flick isn’t a robot, he can change

[quick quest]

flicks philosophy is to go attacking and outscore the other team why else do you think he runs a high line

[frail tendon]

We need to score 4 so that we get extra time

[long stratus]

You're comparing Hansi Flick at a time where he's managing a very fractured, exhausted, depleted squad that doesn't allow him to play a more defensive mentality due to the absence of a team engine center to something that I can't even describe

[quick quest]

no the team just needs to remember how to finish

not that hard of a solution

[long stratus]

What exactly do you want Flick to do? Pedri is injured, you can't play a defensive mentality without a central engine.

[long stratus]

Okay, solve it

[midnight temple]

last year we weren’t conceding this much

[long stratus]

Tell us, how would one solve that issue without causing even more problems?

[latent silo]

Thats true, but idk if I want that

[frail tendon]

The team needs to learn to shoot and defend

[quick quest]

having the team remember how to finish shots

and actually getting a striker

[long stratus]

You can't just say "score more goals" and it'll happen, you need perfect coordination in tandem between the defense and offense

[long stratus]

You have two

[quick quest]

the fact araujo provided more danger than lewandowski

says alot

[midnight temple]

easier to say than to do

[long stratus]

Go play then

[quick quest]

what do you mean go play

everyone could see the team did horrid in finishing

stop using excuses

[long stratus]

I'm sorry, but you're not providing any sensible course of action. If you think it's easy to finish a chance in a high-pressure match, go and become a professional player

[midnight temple]

you’re saying that as if they’re missing on purpose

[long stratus]

It's pretty simple

[quick quest]

they are paid over 100k a week for a reason

[long stratus]

Most of them are actually not paid that much in comparison to other players in the league

[midnight temple]

i’ve had enough seeing this same sentence everywhere

[long stratus]

Also, they're paid to play football, not have some dark magic wand in their pocket that allows them to finish every chance

[midnight temple]

they are humans, money won’t magically make them perfect

[quick quest]

out of 27 shots we only had 4 on target

if the attack fails to perform the team is doomed

[long stratus]

Football players aren't machines, they're humans. They have feelings, they can feel pain, they make mistakes, their performances are inconsistent. Nobody is perfect, stop trying to mold everything into a perfect shape, because perfection doesn't exist in football

[frail tendon]

In the last minutes there was a lot of shots like a few in less than a minute

[long stratus]

The attack can score 4 goals per game, it won't matter if you're conceding 5 per game

[midnight temple]

look, this problem was very predictable since the beginning of the season

[steel dome]

I ain't tryna hear allat

[long stratus]

You can't just fix the attack and forget about the defense lol

[quick quest]

the solution is to play better next game no crazy tactical overhaul is needed

[midnight temple]

we were outscoring the opposition, but it can only work for so long until the attack is burnt out

[quick quest]

everyone is panicking

[long stratus]

But to do what you just said, there has to be a tactical overhaul

[quick quest]

not exactly

as I said

the attack just needs to perform better

[frail tendon]

Yeah but a player can't magically play better

[long stratus]

The issue is that you haven't said anything of substance to back your points

[midnight temple]

man this is not a valid point

[quick quest]

how is it not valid

[midnight temple]

if the world worked like that, anyone would have everything they want

« just be better »

[quick quest]

bad games and good games happen all the time

[long stratus]

This current tactical vision clearly isn't something that Hansi Flick wants, it's a necessity born out of sheer necessity. He can't play the game he wants to play, primarily because he has issues with squad depth. You can't replace Pedri with someone that isn't conducive to being the engine of the team, Flick knows that, that's why he's trying to strike a balance and make the squad work in tandem, it just won't work when you've got exhausted, overworked players who have mentality issues

[quick quest]

we are only 2 points behind and everyones gone nuts thinking we need an entire new tactical overhaul system

[midnight temple]

we need a better system for when our best players are out

[long stratus]

You'll keep dropping points if you don't change, football isn't about reactive thinking, it's proactive thinking

[frail tendon]

Flick should try to modify the high line so that it doesn't rely on 1 peron to make it work

[quick quest]

pedri shouldnt be an excuse for not winning lol

we simply failed to score

with the many opportunities

[long stratus]

Pep Guardiola, for example, when he went on a 6-match winning streak, he changed everything and caused an uproar in the Manchester City fan base because nobody thought it was necessary, yet it proved to be the single greatest decision he's ever made

[midnight temple]

exactly, that would be a possible solution

[midnight temple]

it just isn’t possible to rely on one sole system to survive

we need a viable backup plan

[long stratus]

Just because you don't think it's necessary doesn't mean the coach shouldn't do something, Hansi Flick is paid to manage, he's paid to formulate tactical plans, so is the backroom staff. If they think something needs changing, then that's their right, you have the right to question those decisions, but you don't make them

[frail tendon]

We need a plan that will counter the opponents playstyle

[long stratus]

Mhm

That's why I said you need to be proactive, not reactive

[midnight temple]

yeah

[long stratus]

Have a plan, a contingency for that plan and series of contingencies for that contingency plan

[quick quest]

yall have a good time overthinking is

[midnight temple]

you’re the one underthinking about this

[long stratus]

Football isn't just about scoring goals, you can score as many goals as you want, it just won't matter if your defense is conceding more goals or if your performances are inconsistent

[midnight temple]

it’s so obvious, Flick and the team failed to account for road bumps

[quick quest]

i can assure you this was an issue based on failing to make our chances pay the statistics even scream that

[long stratus]

There are so, so, so many factors to consider when it comes to football that it's really made the job of a head coach into a therapist, coach, ego manager, businessman all in one

[hard plaza]

Today was horrible

[long stratus]

The statistics actually scream that the midfield is the largest problem

[midnight temple]

i’m not saying that it isn’t true, i’m saying that it isn’t a reliable solution

[hard plaza]

Madrid are gonna win La Liga now...

[long stratus]

Its ONE match

ONE

[midnight temple]

the attack can’t over perform forever

[frail tendon]

Yall my class are such glory hunters✌️ this week they're madrid fans the next barca fans

[long stratus]

Stop being all downy about one match, you've got half of a season, an El Clasico, and you'll have the issues solved by the time you play Levante

[quick quest]

we run a high line to make it easier for attack for a reason

[midnight temple]

and it works when we have the players for it

[long stratus]

Either get behind the team, or stop pretending that you're a fan. When times get tough, real fans don't say "Oh, it's over, yep, ggs", they rally around the players, the squad, the club, and they give their unwavering support, because that's what the players need

[midnight temple]

but when we don’t this happens

[long stratus]

It's so disappointing to see such a historic club have a fan base thats so abhorrently failing to do that

[hard plaza]

They have started to get better and now we are getting wkrse

[midnight temple]

better? where?

[long stratus]

Not really

It's been the same since Pedri got injured, on and off performances with glimpses of the impending collapse everywhere

[midnight temple]

it was bound to happen even if Pedri wasn’t injured

[long stratus]

What happened today was inevitable, maybe it wouldn't have happened today, but it would've certainly have happened sometime during the season. It's better to just get through this now, while you've still got time, rather than later in the season when it's actually all about getting every single point possible

Yeah, you're two points off the top, but it's February

You've got an El Clasico, if you just hold form until then and manage to scrap a win, you'll still win the league and this game will be lost to history

[midnight temple]

only two points, you can’t just give up like this

[frail tendon]

And we got a clasico at camp nou

[long stratus]

This is a real test for the fans tbf

I'm hoping the fan base will unite and get behind the players, because that's what's really, really needed right now, especially when a key player is undergoing mental health problems

[midnight temple]

this has happened many times before, with many teams

[long stratus]

Yep

[frail tendon]

A lot of fans are idk how to say it but plastic

[long stratus]

Most of the time, the fans get together, keep supporting the team, the players use that collapse as a turning point

[frail tendon]

They will turn on coaches and players for 1 loss

[midnight temple]

exactly and they lack critical thinking

[long stratus]

I don't know if you guys remember, but Manchester City lost against Liverpool and it saw them drop points to Arsenal in the season when they ultimately won the treble

[frail tendon]

Ample be saying some insane ball knowledge though rn

[long stratus]

Pep Guardiola famously said he needs his warriors, the Manchester City fans threw everything behind the squad, even though they had so many issues with squad depth and fitness during that time, they went on to make history

[midnight temple]

pretty sure he’s probably involved in coaching

[frail tendon]

@long stratus are you involved in coaching?

[long stratus]

You can win La Liga, you can win the Copa Del Rey, you can win the Champions League, you just need to have faith, support, and you need to have the confidence to express yourself freely on the pitch as a player

[long stratus]

Yes

In some capacity, yes

[frail tendon]

Keit predicted it

[frail tendon]

True

A season isn't over until May

[midnight temple]

he was talking about crc earlier and how it is only accessible to coaches so

[long stratus]

A season isn't over until the last second of the final game goes by

[frail tendon]

Well leauges can be over earlier but eh

[midnight temple]

Bundesliga for example

[frail tendon]

The Turkmenistan leauge is over before it starts

[midnight temple]

😭😭😭

[frail tendon]

They have a team made by the goverment

[midnight temple]

that’s just corruption tbh, happens a lot

[frail tendon]

Also I know we played bad but that 2nd Girona goal should have been dissalowed

[midnight temple]

some governments have too much control over the footballing instances

[frail tendon]

There was a foul

[midnight temple]

clear foul, and there was a possible pen on De Jong

[frail tendon]

And also we hit the post 2 times

[long stratus]

I don't know about you, but I'd fight for every point until that happens, I don't care about expectations. I'd throw my full support behind the team, behind the club I support. If we lose, we lose, we'll learn and adapt

Nothing wrong with not winning the league as long as you've fought for it

[frail tendon]

Well it's the same for me like even if we lose to atleti in cdr I hope it's a fair loss and that we tried

[midnight temple]

bet that most of these people that are complaining were nowhere to be found in the bartomeu era

[long stratus]

I've been an Atlético fan for more than a decade now

[frail tendon]

I call him Chinese guy

[long stratus]

The things I've been through supporting this godforsaken club have probably shortened my lifespan by a few decades

[frail tendon]

He looks chinese

[long stratus]

So many heartbreaking moments lol

[frail tendon]

I don't think by a few decades 😭

It was less

A few decades is wild

[long stratus]

I'm still stressed out about that UCL final

[midnight temple]

man have you seen braithwaite play

[long stratus]

Losing 4-1 to Real Madrid in 2014 broke my heart forever

[frail tendon]

Also I think real madrid was In this same postion in February last year and we passed them

[long stratus]

We were actually good that season too

[long stratus]

I think a lot of people are just new to La Liga

It's not what it used to be, I hate to admit it, but La Liga has gotten progressively worse

[midnight temple]

2017 and before that was great

after cr7 left it really lost some of its charm

[long stratus]

It was bad in 2017, it just became horrible after

[midnight temple]

covid destroyed the rest of what was left and here we are

[long stratus]

Officiating is a coin toss, will the referee count this goal despite the obvious foul? Maybe, they're all a bit corrupt, that's the issue

Officiating sucks, the league has lost its competitiveness in Europe, it's not really growing anymore either

[midnight temple]

this is a massive issue

[long stratus]

It's like the death of Spanish football is happening, and nobody is trying to stop it

[midnight temple]

i don’t get why this is happening

[long stratus]

A lot of people in the coaching world are seriously starting to ask why certain clubs don't withdraw from La Liga

[midnight temple]

it can’t continue like this

[long stratus]

Even some coaches from La Liga clubs are starting to question whether their club should just withdraw or not

[long stratus]

I'd resign if I was manager of Barcelona. Cite officiating issues, I wouldn't be anywhere near this league with how poor the officiating is, it's really one-sided, and it feels like every season is scripted

[midnight temple]

it’s just so unfair

[long stratus]

Even when Atlético won, a lot of our old fans didn't celebrate much

Of course we were happy, but it felt like a scam lol

[midnight temple]

it’s horrible man, i hate watching matches with this kind of refereeing even when we win

[long stratus]

I've stopped watching La Liga sometimes

I just can't handle the mental strain of watching an obviously rigged match happen without anyone even questioning why it's happening

[midnight temple]

when we beat Madrid in the supercopa at the end i wasn’t even happy about it anymore

[open wasp]

Let's ban Soto Grado, Matheus Lahoz, Gil Manzano and Munuera brothers from LaLiga

[long stratus]

No offense to Barça, but y'all really need to grow a spine

[open wasp]

No offense to Madrid, but they need to stop paying referees

[long stratus]

Stop playing if you're seeing that the referee is just blatantly rigging it, put pressure on the RFEF

[frail tendon]

Soto grado hates barca or smth he refferef 2 games in a row and both times we lost

[long stratus]

They can't hide from their responsibilities forever

[open wasp]

RFEF is Madrid's she-dogs, they ain't doing sh*t

[long stratus]

Atlético threatened to stop playing and the RFEF bent over

[midnight temple]

certain clubs have too much power for us to do that

[frail tendon]

Whenever a team is robbed they should submit a report to REFF

[long stratus]

We have nowhere near as much influence as Barça

[latent silo]

No we need money

[long stratus]

Or just directly to UEFA atp

[midnight temple]

we’re already in court for this Negreira nonsense

[long stratus]

UEFA isn't pleased with the RFEF btw

[latent silo]

I think thats over

[open wasp]

Barcelona paid Negreira for the referees to help Madrid fr fr

[long stratus]

It's going to be a subject at an internal meeting soon(ish), but UEFA is starting to really get angry with the RFEF over officiating

[midnight temple]

well of course they have to do something

[long stratus]

Champions League is suffering from a lack of overly qualified referees for the first time in decades, primarily because UEFA deems RFEF certified referees to not have the necessary capability to officiate matches at the highest level

[lethal light]

after the e files and the corruption in the world im not surprised that football is also full of corruption

the word is banned lol

[midnight temple]

when clubs like Madrid can influence the whole institution with a TV channel, something’s wrong

[lethal light]

u get what i mean with the files

[long stratus]

This is very bad, by the way

[open wasp]

This is why Gil Manzano got banned from WC

[long stratus]

It means there's a lot of new referees officiating matches, meaning an increased risk in errors

[midnight temple]

world cup 2030 in spain btw

[open wasp]

GG we're cooked

[long stratus]

Spanish referees aren't even being considered for the World Cup

[open wasp]

We need ChatGPT to ref atp

[lethal light]

man do we need referees like collina.

[open wasp]

Fr

[long stratus]

FIFA lists RFEF as an C-tier regulatory body

[midnight temple]

that’s not even close to normal

[long stratus]

For reference, this is below the Slovene league ^

[frail tendon]

At this point make AI reffs they're not going to pick sides ✌️

[long stratus]

NZS is above the RFEF, which I think says a lot

[open wasp]

This bald ref from the EPL should be banned from the WC too

[midnight temple]

if refs can’t referee world cup matches, how can they referee some of the biggest clubs in the world

[long stratus]

I'm pretty sure they already have something going on to that affect

[long stratus]

When's the last time you saw a Spanish referee officiate a UCL match

[lethal light]

every big club in history has been involved in corruption around referees no matter who, including our beloved club

[long stratus]

An important UCL match*

[open wasp]

Idk why Gil Manzano is still refereeing LaLiga matches but got banned from WC

[midnight temple]

low standards probably

[midnight temple]

can’t remember tbf

[long stratus]

That's the issue, they haven't been trusted for ages now

[open wasp]

Understandable

[midnight temple]

these refs don’t have any sense of authority, accountability and common sense

[long stratus]

Vinčič has officiated more important UCL matches than most Spanish referees

[long stratus]

VAR also isn't inherently rigged in the UCL nowadays

[open wasp]

They be rigging the VAR at the Spanish comps

[midnight temple]

ucl refereeing has considerably improved in my opinion

[long stratus]

Thanks to Čeferin actually owning up to officiating mistakes in private, and working in tandem with clubs to ensure the fairest possible officiating teams, the rate of error has decreased dramatically in the continental competitions

[midnight temple]

the prem and laliga refs are horrible

[long stratus]

UEFA also removed one of its golden rules

[open wasp]

Agree

[midnight temple]

which one?

[long stratus]

Goals can now be awarded even after the final whistle has been blown, should an officiating committee deem a goal reversal to have been wrongly reached

Hasn't been used yet, but I'm sure that'll stir some controversy soon

[midnight temple]

that’s actually pretty good

horrible for the fans tho

[open wasp]

We should have those VAR check cards ngl

[long stratus]

Ehhh

Extra drama

[frail tendon]

That's a good rule and it would be maybe even better if unfair goals were dissalowed after the final whistle too

[long stratus]

The TikTok generation loves drama

[long stratus]

That's actually happened before in an European league

A goal being disallowed days after the match, it's happened before

[frail tendon]

By unfair I mean a goal that should be dissalowed but wasn't

[long stratus]

Though, tbf, NZS was under immense pressure from fans to institute that reversal so

[midnight temple]

i think that they should implement a fixed number of forced var checks per match for the managers to request

[open wasp]

The VAR check card things

[long stratus]

VAR is a tool, I think regulatory bodies should not only let managers ask for VAR checks, I think they should encourage it

[topaz kiln]

You think? Brother this should be implemented

[long stratus]

It'd do wonders for manager to referee relations, transparency, et cetera

[open wasp]

I liked that on the U 21 WC

[frail tendon]

Simeone would not be happy with that rule he asks for a check like every 10 minutes

[long stratus]

Simeone is a drama queen

[open wasp]

Remember they have only 2 chances

[midnight temple]

but the refs aren’t required to listen to him tho

[long stratus]

Oblak got bumped slightly and Simeone went ballistic on the fourth official

[midnight temple]

at least he would have his wishes granted two or three times now

[open wasp]

They are but managers only have 2 chances, if they are wrong twice they lose the card for the rest of the match

[long stratus]

VAR should review cards, goals, corners, fouls anything that could be potentially missed by a referee

[frail tendon]

True

[midnight temple]

if that was true Girona wouldn’t have won

[long stratus]

It doesn't take VAR a ton of time to check stuff either, it takes a few seconds to a minute, if it's not rigged like the Copa Del Rey

[frail tendon]

8 minutes was wild though

[long stratus]

Normal play, slowed play, call, done

[open wasp]

No, i mean like the VAR check cards thing. The one used on the U21 WC

[long stratus]

9

[midnight temple]

it has to be universally implemented

[long stratus]

I don't buy the entire "we had to draw lines manually" thing

[frail tendon]

And the offside looked hand made

Like wth

[midnight temple]

mandatory mics on the refs would be really appreciated too

[spark fable]

@rustic iris

[open wasp]

Both managers have a card, they have 2 chances each to ask VAR checks.
If they're right, they get the chance back, if not, they lose one check.
If they lose both checks, they lose them for all the match

[long stratus]

I know people are going to call me stuff for saying this considering I'm an Atlético fan, and I do support my team, but there's absolutely no way it took them nine minutes to draw offside lines

[open wasp]

Agree

[spark fable]

Hiii everone

[long stratus]

That goal should've stood

[spark fable]

I'm a new Barcelona fan! Hi everyone!

[midnight temple]

good luck

[frail tendon]

Hello

[spark fable]

@rustic iris

[long stratus]

Call me a plastic fan, I don't really care, I'm disappointed that Atlético's squad continued playing while knowing the decision that was made was faulty in nature

[spark fable]

How did we lose to Girona?

[open wasp]

Offside lines were rigged btw, the line below defender's foot wasn't straight

[spark fable]

The refree fault

[midnight temple]

was it even offside 😭

[long stratus]

I'd rather my team win fair and square, or lose, than win because of rigging

[long stratus]

No

[rustic iris]

mówię że pisać nmg bo mialem przerwę

[spark fable]

sorry boss

[frail tendon]

Yeah the reffere mostly

[spark fable]

Yeah money talks

[long stratus]

I got called so many names by new Atlético fans when I said it wasn't offside lol

Veteran Atlético fans said the same thing as me tho

[rustic iris]

i didnt see the match, how did girona get red card?

[long stratus]

Obviously not offside

[frail tendon]

Foul on yamal

[rustic iris]

oh okey

yamal didnt shoot penalty

[long stratus]

"foul" might be understating it a bit

[spark fable]

Yeah

[frail tendon]

He did and missed

[long stratus]

The poor kid got taken out like it's the WWE

[midnight temple]

cause that was really confusing, on the frame they took it isn’t even obvious that he touched the ball at that time, and he received the ball from an opponent

[spark fable]

post

Why is my nickname culer?

[rustic iris]

Real Madrid is shit

??

[spark fable]

Yeah

[rustic iris]

okey

[frail tendon]

Even if it's a wild WWE move it's still considered foul

[rustic iris]

🤙🏻

totalne eldorado

[spark fable]

VARDRIT

[long stratus]

Yes, I know

[frail tendon]

You can't call it a taekwondo punch or something

[spark fable]

who knows a club like Lech Poznań

[midnight temple]

that was an attempt on his career

[long stratus]

I'm just saying for discussions between people on the internet, I'd probably use the term "knockout" instead of foul

Poor guy

[midnight temple]

should’ve been a double red

[spark fable]

Do you know Lech Poznań?

[frail tendon]

Give him a red for the whole season✌️

[rustic iris]

jakis dziwny ten serwer

[spark fable]

no

[long stratus]

Man, if I was the referee for that game, I'd be dishing out yellows for dissent like crazy after that tackle when everyone ganged up on the referee

[rustic iris]

idziemy na cos innego

nie na barce

czy cos

[spark fable]

na co

[rustic iris]

nw

nie pisz tak

Barca ok

[spark fable]

nie

[long stratus]

Red card for the Girona player, yellow cards for any player who isn't the captain of their respective team, yet is attempting to influence the decision via argumentation

[rustic iris]

ja nic do Barcy nie mam

[frail tendon]

The reff also just didn't want to check so many things

[rustic iris]

idziemy na nw

[spark fable]

ale płaczą o sędziego

[midnight temple]

if i was a player i’d have lost my head

[spark fable]

xdd

[rustic iris]

Paok

chodz ten

na wlasny serwe

grac

w zgadnij pilkarza

[long stratus]

If I was a player, I'd do some things that I can't say here lol

[spark fable]

to włączę bota

[long stratus]

My hatred for referees nowadays is so strong that I genuinely wish they'd just get ignored for one match

[midnight temple]

thankfully he didn’t get injured but that was just horrible

[long stratus]

He didn't get physically injured, don't forget about mental health

Getting tackled like that could cause some issues

[frail tendon]

At this point AI wouldn't even be a bad reffere✌️

[midnight temple]

after that horrendous afcon final i’ve lost all hope

[long stratus]

I've seen very, very confident players start struggling hard with anxiety after a bad tackle or two

[frail tendon]

Scaloni is going to make his players beat the hell out of yamal

[midnight temple]

he’s already constantly closed down by two players or more, just not being able to play freely would have a toll on me

[long stratus]

I guess that's expected, because nobody wants to be hurt, it's just another factor to consider. Not every injury is visible, not every injury is physical, mental health is even more crucial than physical health in some cases

[long stratus]

I hope he's getting the support he needs

[midnight temple]

just 18, people forget that easily

[urban dagger]

guys why is slow mode 2 mins in main chat

[long stratus]

Seems to be struggling hard with his mental health at the moment. I've really lost all respect for some people, honestly, seeing them treat a 18-year-old the way they've treated him is just horrible.

[frail tendon]

A mod turned it on and never disabled it

Also I gotta go now it's past 1 am

[midnight temple]

question is why isn’t the match day chat closed by now

[long stratus]

He's a kid, not a 30-year-old, I don't want to see an 18-year-old struggle with his mental health, I don't want him to get injured.

[urban dagger]

good question

[long stratus]

It's taking about as long as the VAR review in Atlético vs Barça

[midnight temple]

spanish media is brutal

[long stratus]

And they have the audacity to act offended when people say Spanish football is a joke

I loved La Liga, I loved Spanish football, but holy is it a joke nowadays

[midnight temple]

traumatized by how long that took

surely by now they should have the necessary technology to not do stuff like this

[long stratus]

I miss the old La Liga, the funny moments, the healthy rivalries instead of this toxic cesspool of a league. I miss it when every club had a good chance of pulling off upsets, when you didn't have to worry about the referees. I get why Spanish people might be offended whenever a foreigner says their league is garbage, but it's not false either. Something has to change.

Either something changes or you're going to lose all credibility

[topaz kiln]

All thanks to a person by the name of javier tebas

[midnight temple]

it’s already gone, we’ve only got 3 teams saving the name of that country

[topaz kiln]

If javier tebas wasn’t a president we would’ve been top 1 in the best leagues around the world

[obtuse girder]

im hoping we all realize this is also gonna be how we are next season

[midnight temple]

laliga is horribly run, i don’t even understand how someone with an open bias to a club can be president but sure, let him reign free

[topaz kiln]

Nah this cinema won’t continue to next season once we go back to the 1:1 rule we have a lot of work to do we will need a lot of backups

[topaz kiln]

Fr and his stupid lame “FFP” rules which are legit causing problems for clubs to register players

[midnight temple]

laliga doesn’t even have goal line technology and that alone is insane

[topaz kiln]

May i also add that at some point in the season chelsea alone has spent much more than entire of the la liga teams?

[midnight temple]

i’m so tired of hearing about the 1:1 rule, we’ve heard about that term hundreds of times

[topaz kiln]

And i think even nottingham forest spent more this season

[midnight temple]

they spent 500mil with 2 managers

[obtuse girder]

itll be the same, we'll get new players from different leagues, it will be difficult to incorporate, and then pressing will be inconsistent again

next season is also gonna be bad

[topaz kiln]

Same i am also tired of hearing about that rule but this what we need to do so we can sign players freely under this hell of a rule in la liga

[midnight temple]

at some point their reserve was enough to make two other starting elevens

[topaz kiln]

No i don’t think so as long as we bring in experienced cb backups for rapha pedri and mostly a pure number 9 striker it won’t

[midnight temple]

i think that we need a creative number 9

[topaz kiln]

And people ask why premier league is miles better than la liga

[obtuse girder]

yea see THIS is bad

[midnight temple]

more teams have the budget to compete there

[long stratus]

When does his mandate expire

[obtuse girder]

bro imagine the type of profiles and language barriers and even playstyles wed have to gel together

[midnight temple]

when is the last time you’ve heard about an investment in a spanish club

[obtuse girder]

we are gonna spalsh cash, but we're gonna be horrible having to play way too many players from diffrerentl leagues and playstyles

[obtuse girder]

last year, apparently some saudi owner was gonna buy out barca but i guess it was fake news

[topaz kiln]

Idk but i heard that in a news before that the Spanish government will investigate on la liga over something

[topaz kiln]

Yeah and they can spend freely nobody is telling them a thing

[midnight temple]

2027

[topaz kiln]

We aren’t going to sign many players or have too many star teams unlike real madrid we would only need to sign players for the position that we need

[midnight temple]

actually they regularly get investigated by uefa but they don’t get sufficiently punished for it

[obtuse girder]

u do realize we have to sign more than just a striker and a world class center back right

we gotta sign a center back, a left back, a right back, AND a striker, and possibly take that bernardo silva on a free which is even worse for the wage bill

[midnight temple]

we need a proper midfielder like pedri too

[topaz kiln]

I don’t think we need silva if only the case as a backup

[obtuse girder]

exactly which is why i dont mind silva

[long stratus]

Unpopular opinion, UEFA should crack down on La Liga

[obtuse girder]

hes the only competent one, 31 and still getting minutes for city despite him having reijnders and cherki

[long stratus]

I've frankly had enough of the kids gloves, it's clear that nothing is changing despite repeated warnings

[obtuse girder]

like hed prolly be better than elmo

[midnight temple]

why aren’t the rules generalized across the leagues

[long stratus]

Kick Spanish clubs out of the Champions League, Europa League, Conference League, I don't care. Just get this to stop

I'd rather Atlético not play European football than watch this absurd league for another year

[topaz kiln]

Yeah good point

[long stratus]

Club pressure

[obtuse girder]

although i do still want fermin to stay

but elmo can go, 27 and hes playing like hes 19 wtf

[midnight temple]

fermin has to stay, too much potential to let him go

[quaint flame]

بوتا ريال مدريد

[obtuse girder]

ye i dont mind fermin staying

elmo tho

...................

that 65 mil market value could be a big one

[midnight temple]

olmo is hit or miss

[topaz kiln]

Exactly

There are moments where brother is playing peak prime and other times he’s just crap

[obtuse girder]

for 65 mil?

a hit or miss?

get him gone

[midnight temple]

i like olmo but hate his inconsistency

[long stratus]

I think Olmo is a good backup

Barcelona doesn't have the squad depth to sell him right now, I'd keep him as another card to play if I really need to throw a wrench into the game

[midnight temple]

i honestly think that getting rid of ferran should be prioritized

[obtuse girder]

get silva man and then we'll be fine

[long stratus]

And who would replace him?

[obtuse girder]

OSIMHEN

OCEAN MAN

EASILY

[long stratus]

I'm sorry to Barça fans, but Alvarez simply isn't good enough

You don't need more creativity, you need someone who can finish chances consistently without acting like a diva, that's just not who Alvarez is.

[midnight temple]

i am confident that he can fit in this team

[long stratus]

I thought he'd fit into the team, but I did some research, I'm no longer convinced

[topaz kiln]

I am still confused to why barca sold pau victor he would be very useful right now

[obtuse girder]

50/50, his numbers this season havent been good

[topaz kiln]

Oh yeah I forgot

The stupid ffp rules

[obtuse girder]

both strikers were on fire so

oh damn is that why?

thats insane

[long stratus]

I get why the rules were implemented, but they're just so dumb

[topaz kiln]

Yeah if I remember correctly it was because of this stupid ffp rules

[midnight temple]

i don’t know who else could take that place

[long stratus]

How is La Liga going to compete in Europe?

Barça doesn't have enough money, Real Madrid is led by a psychopath, Atlético Madrid is just Atlético

Villarreal is.. no.

[obtuse girder]

also pau victor wouldnt be good lol, yes hes got 15 G/A but its portugal, look at gyok, nunez, samu, theyre meh when you put them in tough matches

[midnight temple]

barely last in ucl btw

[topaz kiln]

The top 5 leagues football has this ffp rules but they aren’t as strict as the one in la liga

[obtuse girder]

they wont

simple

[long stratus]

Yes, I know

I deal with FFP rules every other day

[obtuse girder]

heres my take

[unborn wadi]

is this chat normal speed?

[long stratus]

It's annoying, very annoying. I get why they're there, I even understand the necessity to make them stricter, I just don't get why La Liga is choosing to voluntarily kill its chances in European competitions by implementing the worst FFP rules I've ever seen

[obtuse girder]

i dont think many people know about this chat lool

[midnight temple]

yes but don’t let them catch us here

[unborn wadi]

aight

[obtuse girder]

either that or everyone is jus asleep rn

[long stratus]

I mean, we're still talking about the match

It's technically matchday

[midnight temple]

man last time against chelsea they closed this chat minutes after full time

[topaz kiln]

Tbh I only came here because of the slow mode in the chat

[long stratus]

Yeah, but that was UCL

[obtuse girder]

LMAO same

[long stratus]

Benfica versus Real Madrid is today

[topaz kiln]

Because of the madrid fans coming there to troll us

[obtuse girder]

oh is that why it was slowed

i was in church so i didnt realize

[topaz kiln]

Yeah

[long stratus]

Mourinho is going to play the most atrocious low lock with exploitive wingers

[midnight temple]

ohhhhhh i completely forgot about that😂

[unborn wadi]

Look at how far behind la liga is as well from the rest of europe in general I give the top team from any of the other leagues like bundesliga and prem much better chances at winning UCL

[long stratus]

Might get a bit screwed because of Trent

[topaz kiln]

It’s really insane that those madrid fans legit wait on us to lose so they can troll our servers

[long stratus]

Please don't take offense to this, I don't think La Liga is in the top three for me anymore

[obtuse girder]

sell ferran, christensen, elmo, lewa and maybe one of araujo/kounde
bring in bastoni/pau torres, dumfries/ryerson/read, grimaldo/nathan ake, bernardo silva, vlahovic, osimhen

[midnight temple]

trent still exists 😭 i always forget about him

[unborn wadi]

I agree bundesliga is higher and serie A

[long stratus]

At this point, it's like

1. Premier League
2. Serie A
3. Bundesliga
4. EFL Championship

Championship is criminally underrated

[obtuse girder]

LMAO FAX

championship could creep up there

[unborn wadi]

Lol I love that you put the championship above la liga and the french league

[long stratus]

Might be ahead of Bundesliga tbf

[midnight temple]

EFL??? that’s insane 😭

[topaz kiln]

Funny story and I don’t know if anyone knows about this but at some point in last season madrid fans legit hacked a man city server and turned it into a Real Madrid server

[obtuse girder]

also tbf la liga has like no publicity or promotion

like they have nothing

except ea

like thats it

[topaz kiln]

They were even chatting about madrid matches on that server

[long stratus]

The Championship is so competitive, it's so passionate

Every player fights for each point like their life depends on it, the fans are amazing, the atmosphere is amazing

[unborn wadi]

for sure middlesborough and coventry rn and the race for playoffs is so exciting

[obtuse girder]

actually???

thats crazy work

[midnight temple]

english football in general is very passionate

[long stratus]

Ligue 1 is slowly becoming competitive too

[midnight temple]

they don’t play about this

[long stratus]

The dictator leaving really helped the league

Sorry, I meant Kylian Mbappé

[obtuse girder]

lmao nice one

[unborn wadi]

oh for sure

[thin zodiac]

Barca is now second bro we sold tdy