#Posting Flyers Around Town
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i feel like that takes a lot more courage than sticking stuff up
i mean i doubt that... theres also public spaces like libraries or community boards that anyone can put stuff on
ohhh the this person does not exist is a great idea actually. attention grabbing
Project Tracker: https://maximolog.notion.site/Posting-Flyers-Around-Town-0bbbf171e7c047bca58e2590280d7d3f?pvs=4
My two cents: I would recommend making the message much shorter, sharper and more accessible to the general public
Love the "this person does not exist"
I would follow it up by a ... "and soon your job will not exist either"
i was gonna steal that idea and make a lot of smaller ones with "this person does not exist. AI is more dangerous than you Think. pauseai" and then putting them all over campus
BTW I will gladly go around any town I visit and put these up
makes sense to have a different format
we already have flyers for this purpose though, I was giving them to people on the streets of Marseille last year
check out
#1175000709490561064
Your project is different in that we have not talked about placarding things in the streets yet
hahaha! well I would suggest that you add the material that you create to the figma that is in the other project
i think another variation is literally any ai generated hyperrealistic image with "this is not real"
I think I already suggested it a few weeks ago but should we maybe also mass-order some stickers with just the pauseai logo to be able to distribute them more cheaply than the 8 € / 3 stickers in the merchandise shop (or for free because they’re really cheap)?
I think you can get them for 50 € / 1000 pieces or something like that the last time I checked (edit: and sending mail around the world is also surprisingly cheap)
is this anything
I can change the second line if people want, I'm not so sure about it
I've participated in a few grassroots flyer posting campaigns. Some pointers:
Where to print?
Ask your college friends if they have spare printing quota to their college printers, or get them printed at a print shop (compare prices).
Tools:
Either A) stabler gun for stabling onto wooden surfaces,
or
B) wallpaper paste, a wide brush, and a bucket for the paste.
Note: You can make our own DIY wallpaper paste -- it's just wheat flour and water, boil in a pan, and voila! Works great. You can google the instructions but iirc its 9 cups water + 1 cup flour, add flour slowly and mix continuously to avoid clumping. When pasting, make sure to paste the edges too so haters cant rip them off easily.
Where to put them?
I would use some common sense: paste flyers where there are already flyers; don't paste onto windows of small business owners or people's home walls!
You can ask small shops if you can tape your flyers inside their shops (always ask!).
Public bulleting boards are good choices.
Friends:
Invite friends to join, or do it alone. Set a couple hours for a trip around town, and maybe even do it on different days at different parts of the town.
Law:
Check your local laws.
In my country, the police will give you a fine and confiscate your tools if you get caught (i never got caught!), but it's not a big deal. If it's your first time dealing with police, dont panic, don't talk other than to identify yourself. Check your local laws if uncertain.
Bypassers:
Bypassers might confront you about your vandalism, but in my experience most wont stick to bother you, and you can actually make friends with most if you laugh it off with a gentle joke.
Style of flyer?
No simple rule 🙂 Experiment and have fun with it. If you want consistent branding, do that. If you're doing it on your own, make it your own; it's your expression of your own free speech!
You could also carry different styles, and put up different flyers at different locations.
And that file is in cmyk for color printing etc
Hm, thispersondoesnotexist is about 5 years old now afaik, I don’t know if that works to shock people if that’s the idea 😅
yea and public messaging doesn't have to be perfect, it's mostly about volume, aka saying the same things over and over again
Something like. Are you using AI to think harder or to hardly think
I love the idea of lots of small cheap flyers to just throw out everywhere. I wonder what type of stuff can cause fines to PAI tho
Awesome!
anyone have the black and white version of the logo?
All the materials are in here, you can export them as pngs
The orange background logo doesn't really export right, it just doesn't include the orange background, so you can use that as a bw version
wow nice !
@manic yew good job! btw, did you finally understand how Figma works and where are all the signs and stuff? Because I don't lol
Has this gone anywhere? If you're willing to take a risk, this site is insanely cheap, and delivers basically anywhere:
https://us.bizay.com/en-us/group/custom-stickers-n
I am going to make flyers too!
i have stickers but i am going to make a few more with different slogans etc
9 on a page
This is so fucking cool
Which thing? I want to calibrate my thoughts about acrylic stands. 😂
Haha sorry - I just mean looking at this project and seeing people make designs, printing 'em out, being active. It just all warms my heart.
I tried to export the logo from Figma and maybe there should be instructions on how that works (figured it out now) 😅
Something like
- Click on the name of the design to select it
- Under “Fill” in the right sidebar, enable “Show in exports”
- Under “Export”, select the file type and click “Export [name]”
Ordered 2k stickers and will send them out for free to people whose name I recognize (edit: which is very likely if you’ve been somewhat active here but I still have to wait 2 weeks for them to arrive)
Amazing job Bruv 😎🙏🏼 I’m gonna print out a bunch
@manic yew and everyone else who have designed flyers and want to share them, I think you can put them in the Figma link. I moved everything I found to the same one, but I don't know if I could because I had some given perms.
In that case we should see if we can change that or make it more clear that people should ask for them.
That's not how Figma works AFAIK @pato, it requires the owner of the master file to add changes. Others can only create copies and share these
OH, I made changes and it created a new thing for me, I didn't realize. I thought you had like a paid plan that let others collaborate directly or something like that.
Well, I'm looking for an alternative then, something like gdocs but for design should exist. I think Canva is more like that but it seems like you cannot import stuff from Figma
can't you guys edit this file ?https://www.figma.com/file/iQ4PHQTi1vAVmT9Lckazqt/PauseAI-designs?type=design&node-id=0%3A1&mode=design&t=H27U5AT0oGTOriN2-1
ngl this app is weird, I supposedly have a maximum of 3 pages for file but I have 5 on that one for some reason
perfect then, @warm summit change where the old figma links were for this one
Volunteer Events form: please take 30 seconds to fill this out whenever you have a flyering event, hold a volunteer meeting, etc. https://airtable.com/appWPTGqZmUcs3NWu/pagrSctAKKky2Hoi2/form
This will allow us to track local volunteer actions & keep up-to-date on everything going on around the world!
👀
Get free stickers here: https://forms.gle/N7Z2XdQSixWUsaQ88
Idea: if you're handing out flyers and hoping to recruit people to join a local volunteer group/attend events, it makes sense to invite people to sign up on the spot. You can do this with a clipboard, pen, and printed sign-up form. (this can be done in addition to handing out flyers, of course - ask people who are interested to sign up). If people fill out their info, it's much easier to contact them, invite them to events, & organize a local group.
@light juniper I recommend printing out a bunch of these, having them on a clipboard+pen in addition to handing out flyers. Then you can follow up with new recruits & invite them to the next thing.
Love the idea but the file should probably go into the volunteer drive instead of the media drive
@brazen aurora I believe there are rules regarding the collection of personal student information, it's not something I want to ask for special approval on my first visit. I've already made three extra materials requests in addition to my original one, including one today to provide details about a meetup I started as well as instructions for writing their representatives.
I have created a meetup event and intend to invite people to it verbally if I don't get approval to put it on paper in time. I'll probably print flyers both with and without it if I have time.
Handing out flyers was successful at my local college.
I was there 3.5 hours and handed out between 75-90 flyers (70 for sure, remainder estimated before I started using a tally app to count). The flyers handed out were a mix of Flyer #2 and Flyer #4, with a mix of invitations to a meetup and without.
I had 3-4 really good conversations, including one REALLY GREAT one with a law student junior named Bobby who spoke with me attentively for about 20 minutes and expressed interest in working with PauseAI. I gave him my contact information, but due to rules about collecting student info while soliciting, I didn't ask for his. ( I could and should have asked him to just send me a quick email on the spot (this would have been acceptable), but I didn't think of it).
I have a follow-up meetup scheduled for 11am at a local library near campus. Bobby would have attended but he's busy all day Saturday. I mentioned there may be follow-up events and directed him to https://meetup.com/pauseai-fortwayne for future events.
One other person said she'd "definitely come check out the meetup"
A few learnings:
- Have all your materials printed well in advance. I waited too long to customize the flyers and did not have time to add custom information.
- Flyers should have clear calls to action. I added the following to my flyers, but I should have added "Learn what YOU can do!" above it. In fact, I originally had that but I removed it out of indecision on exact wording, and I'm confident that any of "Learn what YOU can do!", "Find out how YOU can help!", "YOU can make a difference!", and "Get involved!" would have been better than nothing.
- Have pre-generated and labeled QR codes in an album on your phone or in a printed trapper for any resources you might want to point people to during conversations. Example: Yudkowsky Time article / Logan Bartlett podcast, anything Hinton or Bengio, MIRI, etc.
- If you need to get approval for materials, do so well in advance.
We are a community of volunteers and local communities[1] coordinated by a non-profit[2] that aims to mitigate the risks of AI[3] (including the risk of human extinction[4]). We aim to convince our governments to step in and pause the development of superhuman AI[5]. We do this by informing the publ
70 flyers in 3.5 hours might not seem like a lot but it's the week before finals so students were distracted and likely quite a few weren't on campus for their regular schedule (foot traffic was intermittent and often sparse). I would have had the event sooner in the semester, but there is a minumum of a 2-week lead time on scheduling so this was as soon as I could do it once I realized it was an option that I wanted to do.
Meetup invite in footer of some flyers
That is awesome! And excellent knowledge contribution, as well. I need to update the flyering guide soon, to include this advice and the emphasis on a meetup!
Amazing job Brian!
Seriously Brian, you killed it. I'm hoping to do some flyering this week and this is inspiring me 🙂
When speaking to groups of people, it's useful to hand out interest cards for people to fill out and hand back to you. (I will be doing this when speaking to Chicago groups). I recommend printing 4 of these to a page: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1499djKWZ8oPqbGZNkMo6SqY50Sq6iegEUUYz_dftrO0/edit?usp=sharing
One of my coworkers who I've been talking to and sending links for a couple weeks has tentatively agreed to stop by the meetup event
He actually fairly enthusiastic but I'm keeping my expectations tempered
I would recommend having versions of the flyers with space for customizations, urls, and QR codes, and maybe a Word template with placeholders aligning to those spaces. I ended up scaling down one side of my sheets by about 10% and then putting the papers back in the printer and printing the info on the already printed flyers because that was easier than trying to figure out how to modify the PDF directly (at least on Ubuntu :P)
That sounds like an excellent idea! Though, I'm not sure how best to do that. (I didn't make any of the flyers, myself. The most I did was convert one from A4 to Letter.)
I'll take a look at the ones that are also in Figma and see what I can figure out.
I'm still planning to update the flyering guide tonight as soon as I have the time.
somebody should post pause stickers all over the small number of places AI developers congregate in SF (e.g. a handful of relevant bus stops/BART stations OpenAI employees get off at, the area around the OpenAI HQ in general, etc)...they'll see those orange stickers every day
there are maybe 200 frontier execs/engineers in SF that REALLY matter and we really want them to think about pause AI every day walking to work, getting a burrito, waiting for a bus, walking to a cafe for a meeting, etc. The orange is great, very visible
and stickers often to stay there for a long time, nobody is motivated to remove them, so a couple hours of stickering could lead to hundreds of pause advertisements that last for months
yes
@light juniper Don't forget to submit your flyering outing (and later the follow-up meeting) through the Events form!
https://airtable.com/appWPTGqZmUcs3NWu/pagrSctAKKky2Hoi2/form
I made some updates to the flyering guide, and I've asked someone knowledgeable if they can do another round of editing to craft it more deliberately toward the goal of establishing a local community.
Maybe even putting flyers on counters could work if you get to ask the owner
0 people showed up to my PauseAI meetup event but I at least got some impressions of people walking in past my a-frame :/
Where was the meetup?
Huge promo on the site I used to print most of my flyers:
https://us.bizay.com/en-us?promo=CD524&tr_ui=224191
Ends May 12.
I've made new flyers, I'll put it in the volunteer hub for thoughts
I put up a flyer at my local supermarket
Please dont feel limited to print the already designed flyers. I think we are far from having the best designs. It's not clear whats the most interesting and convincing text to share
And im sure we would benefit from having some image in them
Put up at least 5 flyers around places, often talking to people. I find individuals very receptive and worried about AI
Christian bookstore, art shop(very fervent agreement), electronics shop(more muted), print shop(apparently already popular there), grocer(mild concern), coffee shops(highly concerned).
Mostly passed as concerned with white collar and art places being most worried.
I want to mention that I think we need to have more ways for people to engage with PauseAI that don't involve joining the Discord - I think for many, that's a little bit harder/much. Perhaps ask people to sign up for a newsletter? For those who speak to people IRL, a phone number to get updates might be possible? Etc.
We have a newsletter (substack) and our socials to follow of course, but I agree that it would be nice to have something less high barrier than discord for interactivity.
Any ideas from the peanut gallery? I can think of the for humanity podcast and so on
Who here is in the flyering team? @light juniper myself @manic yew @chrome walrus , etc
@unkempt obsidian ? We should try to make sure we have general coverage
I'm not entirely sure what you mean. Does this relate to a conversation in another thread?
I'd at least like to find the time to do more dedicated flyering sessions or to hand out the occasional flyer on a more regular basis (or post flyers, as this thread is about, if I can find places to post them). And I'll be at the workshop today.
Basically I'm wondering if we can coordinate locations and flyers to go out
I'm in Phoenix, AZ. I'd love to coordinate with someone locally, but I don't know what coordination with people in other areas gets us, other than gaining the materials and know-how.
Could be good eventually to know if we can cover all of the US, perhaps see where we get the best response.
Gonna copy this here from Artists as it got lost there. I am looking for images "representing (undesirable) AI" In order to use this for a possible play on the logo (⏸️). Also, give me a place where I can dump my genAI ideas for it since we're not doing that here.
I have handed off flyers at Hobby Lobby, Michaels and a Panera, as well as the Office Depot I printed at. At both Hobby Lobby and Michael, artists are very suppotive, even enthusiastic against AI.
I emphasize again that approaching is important and flyers can be significant. At this rate, I'm slowly working towarding seeing if the companies themselves might trend to support.
Went flyering again, did a ton of places. Weekend flyering to paper a mall is great
Do we have anyone with access to a MFP to generate thousands of flyers for us rather than us printing jn small batches?
You can order large batches of flyers extremely cheaply at https://bizay.com/ if you didn't know
Marketing and Office Materials, Shopping Bags, Promotional Gifts, Textiles, Displays, Signage, Uniforms, Paper Printing, Stamps and much more
Did you use them successfully before?
I've ordered stickers there which went well with the only criticism being that the color has been washed out by sun and rain and @chrome walrus already ordered flyers there iirc
They are also mentioned in the flyering guide
Yep! The quality is sufficient for our purposes, and the delivery was prompt. YMMV, of course.
FLI might be interested in having us mass flyer(and may compensate) their art contest.
If interested, please let me know.
What's that art contest? Not sure I've heard of it. Do you think these flyers are more impactful than PauseAI flyers?
Yeah, $10k prizes have a way to get artists to pay attention.
It also means that they will be put on "event billboards" that we don't get on.
Do you have a link?
Of course, nothing says we can't give out both at the same time. And if PauseAI is associated with "helps artists with actual prizes against goddamn AI", can only see the positive.
Thier flier is too drab imo, though, but that's an #artists-🎨 concern
#artists-🎨 message
Sorry they are not vector. I drew the drone and re-drew the robot (idea from gen). Only the microchip-"AI" portion is gen on the hand (heavily edited anyway). Should be usable? Looking for feedback and more ideas for what sort of image to use as the ⏸️ background.
Where is that from? The empty circle isn’t an official logo afaik
It's not. I just made this variation.
Which original are you referring to then?
The one I used for reference is the official logo (on the screenshot). I used it to copy the colour and proportions at first and then realised the proportions are a bit off.
Where is it from? In the official logo the circle should be filled with the primary color afaik
Oh ok I figured it out🤦♂️ I took the open-circle from one of the old protest photos (I think of the banner). Probably the photo was crooked, false alarm😅🤦♂️🤦♂️
Hey guys, I made simple posters to hang around my town - Warsaw. It is capital city of Poland so I will translate it to Polish for better reception. But just to have your approval, may I?
Thank you so much for your initiative! Mostly looks good to me, maybe write the URL below the QR code so it doesn't look as scammy? Maybe @south hornet (as the only person in this channel who is visibly online) can provide a second opinion?
If you would like any poster support from a grpahic design lens, I am happy to lend a hand & point to resources. I think these are good. The only one that is debatable is perhaps the "rebel" one. Since we are explicitly non-violent, legal actions only. So rebel is a bit vague on that. 🙂
But simple messages plus a QR is really all we need!
So I guess rebel/resist/fight... all sort of depend on the translation & how those might be percieved (erring on the side of caution here)
It just speaks to rebelious spirit of Polish citizens. We ekhm... Had some troubles with fascism in the past and this is actually a thing that unites poles.
I trust you know the local context then, sounds reasonable!
the url is a good add for redundancy yes
Thank you!!
Reminds me I am meant to work on updating this:
https://www.canva.com/design/DAGGKvubJ4I/8sHV3umHI9KgMy4ZtStRDg/edit
No need - This is me who should say thank you, you guys have gathered this community together when I thought i would have to do this all by myself. Then i found out about PauseAI
You guys are amazing. And we can save the world together!
We're so happy you found us so we can all work together
Woah, those R so good. U are so talented!
(that is of course if they are not rendered, sigh, why do have to doubt that something is human creation? Gosh, I want to go back to the times where I knew that when something amazed me it was because someone actually sit for hours and made it with their intelligence and creativity. When we appreciated artists. We WILL go back to this. )
I especially like the first one. It always amazes me how artists can choose the most important details of something in a way that it is easily identifiable by other humans. Just like with the barrel of a pistol - I knew straight ahead what I was looking on and what does it do in real world.
And of course the message of the russian roulette... Awesome. @south hornet, I hope it's not rude to ask but maybe I could print this poster and then hang it around my city?
These are made using AI-free canva icons that I have a paid subscription to access (& official PauseAI branding). I would love for you to use them. I'll get them from draft form to a more polished version soon, & after that, please print & distribute widely!
I want to cover some walls in my city with these posters. Do you guys think that it's enough to use A4 paper format?
Perhaps I should start adding some sort of "generative AI-free" disclaimers to my work?
That is a very good idea.
Although on the other hand I think... It brakes my heart to say this, but I think it may not matter now. As even the AI generated images and deepfake can have such statements. I think we have to focus on actually banning generative algorithms no matter what they do. Because if they exist then there's always this unpleasant thought in the back of a brain that what eyes see may be generated and not created. If these algorithms continue to be used then we won't be able to recognize true and respectful artists among this shit called AI. And with no drive to push forward there will be no artists. I don't want to live in a world where there are no artists. Humans need empathy and care that art represents. We need you.
For human dignity
Don't lose hope that this can shift. There is legislation in progress in CA about this.
AB 3211 California Provenance, Authenticity and Watermarking Standards
Sponsor Wicks speaks, TechNet speaks
Asm Privacy and Consumer Protection Committee - 4/16/2024
https://www.assembly.ca.gov/media/assembly-privacy-and-consumer-protection-committee-20240416
(don't watch this video, it's way too long haha) ^
But do check out this tracker! ^
There is a whole movement of pushback on all sorts of diffferent aspects of AI
But yes, focused efforts at the root of the problem are CRUCIAL, otherwise we are mainly playing whack-a-mole I fear
But I personally think that by working with those concerned about the already present harms, we become stronger
I don't lose hope. Never. Once I have gotten my mind into following this path - there is no way I am giving up. I believe what's happening now across World is a situation similar to explosion of Chernobyl power-plant. It creates a lot of mess that is spreading quickly. But once the situation settles (with us talking to politicians) we will clean this shit up. And we will delete all non human "creations" from the web.
I was surprised how many people we have in Poland, hopefully we can get you to flyer together
And there will be legislation here in Poland, I'll take care of this.
Is the Church important in Poland? I have had good luck with the Catholic church here
The Pope is surprisingly well educated and this leads to comments which filter down
I think the entire local church here is writing a joint letter soon and they said they would pay me(!!!) to give speeches to the lay on Modern World Dangers of AI
The parish clergy felt that AI was demonic...which was less exactly the nuanced thinking, but okay
yeah this does not surprise me haha
Well it kinda is. I can definitely see people moving away from church over the course of last years (it seems that churches give so much of themselves in times of war, in times of desperation among people, but during peace priests tend to follow the evil path of well... politics and moreover... let's just say some very shady sexual activities with kids and because of that young people tend to turn their backs from church).
But I believe that (oh God, I hope it won't come to that) in the event of potential war with AI - church will be gathering exponentially more believers with time.
But older people are definitely into God.
Maybe that they can help and connect for, ideally, an unified human pushback against AI.
AI should help, not harm people.
That is definitely a good idea!
Better than the Baptist church here which has basically surrendered. "If machines do everything humans did, its okay. Because God will take care of us." Its uhhhggh
I will reach out to them. Even though I, myself was never really religious. That is yet another thing to add to ever-growing list of things to take care of.
Okay, I added links to the posters:
It is good & encouraged to prioritize & ask for help & resources in the discord such as via #help-wanted-and-questions🤝
you may also want to get added to #emotional-support-🤗 (private channel) in case you ever are struggling with the emotional burden, or burnout, or want virtual reassurances 🫂
Thank you. I will be joining it. But more to actually listen and help than to seek help. Or at least I hope so. If anything goes wrong - I am happy that we have this channel.
You never know! I was pretty confident in my own coping skills, but I have still found some helpful targeted advice there. Looking forward to see you around the discord more going foward Ernest!
tomorrow, I'm going flyering + spreading the FLI flyers for $10k prizes for anti-AI art and stories
Fliers I've been using, and a pin to keep it:
We could do this.
If we have some money, we should just generally flyer everywhere
One of the people I spoke with has joined the meetup and reached out to get involved. I wish I had more experience turning interest into action, but I’m going to do my best. I’ve gotten her to join the discord, at least.
We can't blame our selves that we cannot change the hearts of every one we meet. You did the very best you could have done. And that is awesome! 🙂
I am not convinced of the effects of flyering... It generates lots of waste, and people generally ignore them. It's best to share on social media, use it to run an ad campaign.
I think flyers are effective if done en masse. Part of rhe issue is that it isn't coordinated.
But I'm all for social media campaigns too.
Fwiw, I often mean flyering as in cold approaching people. I find that works well, since you are engaging a person
Though today I met someone who argued for human obsoletion, interestimg
I think about you're right about waste and people ignoring them, but I don't know that moving away from giving people things is the right idea. We need to think of something that won't IMMEDIATELY get thrown out.
What if we did little webcam covers or something related to our goals?
Or, what if we gave out dice with a sticker of our logo? The risk of AI doom is about 1/6.
I think the dice idea is a very nice one! Practical things people can use, indeed like a webcam cover or a dice which are related to the threat of AI (spying, taking chances, ...) . Do we have a budget for such things I wonder...
Yes - 100 stickered dice are $20 with stickers left over
I mean, if you want to donate, that would probably still be appreciated