#Boar SC Sunder

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bronze cosmos
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Boar Prime (Host)
Reified Bane | Ready Retaliation | Elemental Balance (SC)
Riven: MS/FR/SC -(Reload/Ammo/SD/Imp/Slash/CD)
If magazine size is an issue, swap Frail Momentum with Shotgun Elementalist

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Boar Prime (Client)
Reified Bane | Ready Retaliation | Survivor’s Edge (CC/SC)
Riven: MS/CC/SC -(Reload/Ammo/SD/Imp/Slash)
USE FRAIL MOMENTUM + SAVVY > SCATTERING INFERNO + FRIGID BLAST
USE PRIME AMMO STOCK > SHOTGUN ELEMENTALIST
Reduce fire rate if lag is an issue

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FAQ:
[1] Thermal Sunder causes me to lag, can I run SC build without it?
A: Without Thermal Sunder, blast procs are unreliable. You can run with a -impact riven and no other elemental buffs (Nourish, Smite, Shock) and have ~75% chance to proc blast which is decent. However, -impact rivens are significantly more expensive so it is not very viable.

[2] If I cannot run this build due to Thermal Sunder causing lag, what build should I use?
A: Full Fire Rate/Multishot build. Swap out Scattering Inferno, Frigid Blast, Shotgun Savvy. Slot in Shotgun Elementalist, Vigilante Armaments, and Accelerated Blast (or Vicious Spread). Use MS/FR 2p1n Riven or if you have MS/FR/Mag 3p1n Riven, you can slot out Shotgun Elementalist for Accelerated Blast/Vicious Spread. You should still use Thermal Sunder for damage, but use Heat instead of Blast to prevent lag.

[3] Why is the Client build different from Host build?
A: Clients usually lag with higher Fire Rate/Multishot. Therefore, Crux is used instead of Overcharge and Fire Rate mods are replaced with Crit mods. Lag is dependent on Ping, Map, and PC specs. If you still lag, consider using Hell’s Chamber instead of Galvanized Hell and/or remove Shotgun Barrage for Bane. If you are able to run more Fire Rate without lagging, do so instead of Crit.

silk zenith
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first

celest trellis
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This build doesnt work btw

bronze cosmos
celest trellis
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the only reason this dogsht build "works" is because your dmg is sooooo sht that they jsut bounce around

bronze cosmos
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?

celest trellis
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?

ember mortar
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?

bronze cosmos
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with this build u dont have to individually hit every enemy, the blast will kill

celest trellis
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your build

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does not work

bronze cosmos
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wdym dmg is shit, ur hitting like 30M a bullet

ember mortar
celest trellis
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the blast dot does not kill the enemy

bronze cosmos
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not the DOT, the AOE

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if the target dies with blast status, it does AOE

celest trellis
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yes

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said aoe has 0 dmg

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but

bronze cosmos
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and if ur doing 30M a bullet, ur telling me the blast aoe doesnt kill

celest trellis
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good luck pusshing this to the newbies

bronze cosmos
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🤣

celest trellis
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cuz every good player that has tried this build knows is dogsht

bronze cosmos
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not true

celest trellis
celest trellis
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everthing after does not

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surely if you gonna put effort into a guide you test things first

modern sonnet
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the explosion does more dmg than the base hit 🥀

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less dmg than potential resupply hit tho

celest trellis
modern sonnet
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also 42mag is hell

hollow delta
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u had oc right

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i wish dx

merry stirrup
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Stop with boar propaganda

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Play sobek

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All you need to do is hit one pellet with sobek for 15m aoe

indigo lintel
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so uh.... verdict?

marble pier
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the logs get spammed with a warning if any elemental damage bonus like (venom dose, sunder, shock) is higher than a certain % causing massive lag depending on pc specs and ms/fr. From testing the highest ive gotten the % without the warning is 1283%

silent inlet
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blast applies even if you kill the target with the raw damage of resupply. gas and blast both have this exception built in since they have "on death" effects so DE gave them this exception.
so as long as the 1st pellet raw damage isnt literally 1 shotting before resupply can trigger, we will have at least 1 blast proc from the resupply hit forcing the blast proc. (if there is ping lag involved then as long as the raw damage of all pellets on 1 target dont kill in 1 shot then you would still get blast procs)

boar definitely outDPS's sobek in damage per shot, but if we want blast procs from resupply then it is more reliable with sobek since its raw damage wont often be the thing killing thus you get blast procs and also you get acid shells for extra AoE clear on leaks. if lag is the reason we arent using sobek then that would be a frames optimization reason and this would just be a cope pivot

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we know that resupply and the blast proc are going to significantly out-deal the original shot's damage cuz they double/triple dip with roar and we have a 300-500% roar that if you want to make blast procs more consistent on boar, you can simply lower ur raw damage so resupply triggers on earlier rounds.

modern sonnet
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generally both sobek and boar do too much dmg to ever proc blast with resupply

indigo lintel
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aka moral of the story, stick to sobek reallyThink

silent inlet
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there is merit to blast tho vs acid shells. acid shells obeys LoS while blast procs ignore it. i doubt many situations actually benefit from that fact and is more of an argument for blast sobek > elec sobek in those situations but ye sobek > boar (unless ur coping for frames)

sage cipher
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but it's boar that lags not sobek

hollow delta
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lets see what gulag host does with 1300 sunder

bronze cosmos
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Well sobek does actually proc blast via acid shells, however boar is more responsive with the significant higher ms/fr is why people prefer it

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And with too much damage, you wont proc blast

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If you don’t 1 shot then running SC is redundant

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Anyways, I cooked a build that is basically same as full ms fr Boar with still very high sc. basically you use full ms fr build and run sc shards and infested mobility to make up for the parkour. This is prob bis

hollow delta
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Funny findings: While john wasnt able to 100 percent proc gas on oneshot, after 20 mins of testing (different enemies, grineers, always oneshot lvl 1 enemies) for me it always procced

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  • on boar, forgot to add.
hollow delta
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using 1to1 KA sobek build on boar not that it matters for testing

sage cipher
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what does this mean

hollow delta
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It procs gas also on onehit

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people saying it doesnt

bronze cosmos
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How are you testing it? And it doesnt proc if a single pellet kills not if one trigger kills with the multishot

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You can test this with a base 1 multishto weapon

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Its a mechanic of resupply itself

hollow delta
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Yeah gg then we did wrong testing XD

lapis fox
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Why elemental balance instead of crit on boar

hollow delta
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Still think its better for solo dps on like tyana what i heard from @merry stirrup just bcs of spread or oestrus stuff

bronze cosmos
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If you arent running sunder then host should go full ms fr and client should go crit

hollow delta
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welp

hollow oyster
slow ivy
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Most people thought it was troll when it started but now a lot of people like it

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I don’t think it will make a big diff in expecteds tho all that matters is if the dps know the spawns, fast looting, and 100 percent roar uptime lookUp

merry stirrup
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Elementalist is all u want for gas

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Then its roar

bronze cosmos
lapis fox
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useable ?

bronze cosmos
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Not that great, no sc no ms

lapis fox
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alr imma keep rollin

lapis fox
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useable?

hollow oyster
hollow delta
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No sd gg

lapis fox
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there u go

bronze cosmos
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🥀

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Scam hirschi maybe he will buy it

hollow delta
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unironically would have bought wth a dff neg

hollow oyster
bronze cosmos
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^

hollow delta
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just buy 3 of each for diff factions

lapis fox
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why sd tho

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for gas?

sage cipher
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watafak is sc sd

merry stirrup
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Propaganda

sage cipher
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should i care about it

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or is it another fake news

merry stirrup
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Ping gramer might be good for him

oak minnow
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where is kohm build

bronze cosmos
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Diza has it

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I @ u

lapis fox
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useable?

hollow oyster
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Pure endo

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+sd for sc boar 🥀

hollow delta
hollow oyster
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Blast taking 1 year to proc

hollow delta
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who said sth about blast

lapis fox
hollow oyster
hollow delta
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sure the 884 3 man boar average roll, it was bad :;)

hollow oyster
hollow delta
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on munio*

hollow oyster
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Blast boar sc best boar

hollow delta
lapis fox
lapis fox
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c on ms

merry stirrup
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cc dead sd dead if no gas

lapis fox
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gas on boar?

hollow delta
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bad yes

lapis fox
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didnt know that theres a gas build for boar

hollow oyster
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It doesnt work

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U one shot without resupply and gas doesnt get force proc

hollow delta
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xdd

merry stirrup
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boar is bad

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play sobek

hollow oyster
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Boar is bad

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Sobek 100% spreads gas

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Endo imdying

merry stirrup
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imagine people

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modding elements

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when resupply force procs it

hollow oyster
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Just use sobek

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Boar bad anyways

merry stirrup
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acid shells spread it always

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boar lags everyone

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and lags client

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sobek is so much better

hollow oyster
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Real

lapis fox
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real

hollow oyster
bronze cosmos
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Do not the endo

merry stirrup
bronze cosmos
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Ban hirschi

hollow oyster
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/ban hirschi

hollow oyster
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@bronze cosmos delete thread sobbuh

hollow delta
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GAS BAD

hollow oyster
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..delete

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bronze cosmos
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..delete

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This command can only be used in an LFG run thread.

hollow oyster
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..close

bronze cosmos
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GG

hollow delta
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..open

bronze cosmos
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..close

hollow delta
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..full

lapis fox
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..leak