rhino bb + wisp sunder

[rugged jewel]

i mean u can if u want tho

[worn walrus]

fair

[rugged jewel]

any rank piercing roar is same range % buff

[normal zealot]

time to forma rhino and make the build

vauban as well

[livid token]

did sm1 ran this a bit more and canr ecommend shards?

i mean i will run a distribution of pv and casting

just not sure how many of each

[pine walrus]

don’t rly matter

[strange cipher]

2x cast 2/3x pv

comfort

[rugged jewel]

try to use at least 2 cast shards since cast time is so long and ur dps loses roar during the cast

[lost zephyr]

1x pv 1x cast 3x dur

probably best

was very comfy for cytherean

of 3x str

whatever u pref

[pine walrus]

5 Orange shards

[half bobcat]

5 blue shards for extra hp (for bellicose)

[normal zealot]

dont forget triumbral

[normal zealot]

if i always sling strength 1 shard good?

[rugged jewel]

Yeah i mean its just more cast speed the better it is for ur dps its not like its super mandatory just reocmmended or ur dps will notice dmg drop when u roar, also depends how often you cast

If you get casting speed from focus then ur fine with 0 or 1

U can run 0 cast speed shards and just go pv/str/dur

If ur slinging

[normal zealot]

1 shard should be nice

in case i dont sling

[rugged jewel]

@normal zealot make citrine eclipse vro 🤔

[normal zealot]

wuh

what is this tech

[rugged jewel]

Testing

[normal zealot]

i dont have eclipse 💔

[rugged jewel]

Huh

[normal zealot]

havent done any side quests

[primal shadow]

testing sht

lol

is TERRIBLE

[rugged jewel]

Not a knower

[hazy pumice]

subsuming eclipse on anyone just seems meh

[primal shadow]

aight man

you got that

@hazy pumice

[hazy pumice]

@primal shadow

[primal shadow]

my vauban is xp capped

[hazy pumice]

how many more runs needed

[primal shadow]

3

[hazy pumice]

holy shit

[primal shadow]

vauban tech

[hazy pumice]

when spartan

[primal shadow]

uhhhh

thats lowk not happening

lmfao

[hazy pumice]

[primal shadow]

i just dont ss runs like that

[hazy pumice]

[primal shadow]

when your spartan

[rugged jewel]

How about i gift u mirage 🤔

[normal zealot]

i mean if you want to sure but isnt she like free for the quest

[rugged jewel]

Craft time 😬

[normal zealot]

well id have to skip 2 helminths, do invites even work currently?

[primal shadow]

what ever this is dont do it

[ivory cobalt]

here are my thoughts on rhino in the flex slot:

• biggest thing is youre giving up speed from vauban/volt, not worth giving up such qol imo
• the added range is pointless for defense, youre not intalooting and youre returning to camp spot for the start of each wave so its braindead easy to land roar on both dps with 35m roar (can even drop amars for stretch for 46m). the higher roar % can be nice for damage if goin past 102w tho.
• the larger range on rhino roar is only useful on the 2 mirror defense tiles, and certain interceptions like xini or cythrean where map is fat / harder to loot effecitvely with constant insalooting makes it "slightly" harder for wisp to use brain and hit both dps with roar.
• some arguement could be made about the higher damage for gas, but tbh youre killing the enemies you do hit with the pellets, and the gas procs from acid shells scaling with enemy hp are just to help clear surviving drones. so its not really needed there either.

[rugged jewel]

Rhino is for intercept 👍

[lost zephyr]

rhino king for intercept

[south stream]

if you arent using gas tho itsd not really needed

[rugged jewel]

Its not needed but it makes gameplay easier for everyone imo u roar whenever, wisp thermals in one spot, client can flex subsume and mods

Its for handless gameplay

[pine walrus]

if bro read he’d understand it’s for intercept

[lost zephyr]

Put the rhino in the guide

🦏

[rugged jewel]

spread rhino propaganda

[restive swift]

speed is a useless stat

also thermal is annoying to cast same with nourish

[rugged jewel]

nourish isnt that bad but thermal is so annoying

[restive swift]

move nourish to client

host has 100% uptime shooting

[rugged jewel]

infested mobility on host 💯

real tech

[restive swift]

host takes shock trooper/dispensary/anything

[primal shadow]

how is nourish annoying

[restive swift]

id rather not have to stop shooting

then stop shooting

also not all client players run proper builds that can sustain without nourish

[odd onyx]

what does host use then

[shell bay]

• yes this setup gives up speed. But currently most cytes run 3-5 pv shards, rhino can run 5pv shards if he wants to wisp has her 2 which is all the moblity required. Trading speed for infinite buff uptime and not having to cast abilities allowing dps to focus on dpsing is worth imo. Furthermore with boar running some sc for non NASA the comp converts the old 1k% shock + 1.3k% blast into constant 2.7k% blast
• rhino is worse than vauban for defense yes. Vauban comps add overdriver and the infinite duration doent benefit when ur not always in instalooting hell
• larger range on rhino is useful for all interceptions. Not all dps are good enough to always instaloot in sync. Sometimes it forces wisp to roar only the host the reroar after returning to camp. Often this roar is unlinked on the larger maps
• needs more testing but acid shells still needs roar to work as thats the only multiplier it scales from. Not sure if with just vauban it scales well. So if with roar u already instakill adding overdriver on top is overkill.
• maps reccomended to use: tyana, xini/cyth, callisto, alator, umbriel
• overall rhino bb + wisp sunder while providing less total buffs than vauban comps have much easier and consistent playstyle, buffs are essentially perma linked perma up.

[rugged jewel]

@odd onyx

[odd onyx]

oh sick\

thanks

[ornate quest]

Agree with all that except alator

Alator shmall map

Very doable with just stretch on wasp

[shell bay]

hm % motes do u get with stretch wisp? 392? and whar abt roar 280 unlinked 530 linked?

[lost zephyr]

@broken quartz

[pine walrus]

I think alator will be fine with just stretch, still have high enough haste.

[ornate quest]

396 motes and ye i dont remember

230-280 roar unlinked

But its easy to link on alator

530 linked yesh

[lost zephyr]

5x str shards on rhino and just give 400 roar unlinked

[ornate quest]

Sometimes 490 i think? Idk

[ornate quest]

Well yes but also like

[ornate quest]

Why not recommend it in every intercep then

Tyana, cyth, umbriel, xini, callisto

What do they all have in common? Beeg

And alator? Smol

[lost zephyr]

Just Play it like that

[ornate quest]

[lost zephyr]

On every interception

[shell bay]

big tile lots of ve looting

[ornate quest]

Oh yeah like if i can

Wisp sunder is kewl

[lost zephyr]

The builds are so nice to use on every mission

[ornate quest]

I like it

[lost zephyr]

Except def if youre going full ms/fr boar

[shell bay]

defense just vauban really

[lost zephyr]

Yea

[shell bay]

the scaling is too good

[ornate quest]

Yeyeye but alator i think you hve enough range with stretch on wisp

[lost zephyr]

Ofc u have

But rhino is just so easy to use

[ornate quest]

But overall yes does feel easier rhinowisp

[lost zephyr]

And just as good

[ornate quest]

Than vaubanwisp

Yee

[pine walrus]

I’m ngl Alator has been fine before all this new tech

Literally won’t make a difference

I guess it’ll just improve consistency somewhat

[shell bay]

alator its fine to run without the massive range and duration

from what im seeing

[pine walrus]

It’s a smaller map

Compared to smth like Callisto

Doesn’t Callisto still require citrine or no?

[shell bay]

is linked roar consistent there?

[shell bay]

nah just mod 3x sd

citrine also only works at camp

kinda ahh

[pine walrus]

I remember when citrine first came into arbi

@brave flame god bless u

[brave flame]

[pine walrus]

But then realised it also prolonged defences longer

[topaz scroll]

Yes I played wisp on alator with triple cyte couple times and It was always linkroar except maybe 2-3 times

But if new player rhino would be better probably

[shell bay]

Ig alator is fine whichever comp

Volt can even work

[pine walrus]

Volt still works for everything, we are just in the new tech honeymoon phase

[lost zephyr]

🍻

[shell bay]

🦏

[livid token]

Sm1 has wisp sunder pov?

[restive swift]

pov of wisp sunder

are we serious 🥀

[livid token]

Yes

[restive swift]

just place motes and place sunder on the camp spot

[livid token]

I never used the ability

[restive swift]

you just press it once

and hold it once

[livid token]

Idk about uptime ect.

[restive swift]

you use it on the spot

it places an aoe

[lost zephyr]

the thingy aoe

is for like 40s

[restive swift]

and they step in it

[lost zephyr]

and buff is like 70s

if they step they refresh it

[livid token]

So like once every 3mins

Kk

2mins*

[lost zephyr]

[restive swift]

dont think it shows up as a buff

on hud

[livid token]

Hmm

[restive swift]

at least not for me

for teammates

[rugged jewel]

It shows for urself

Yea

U cant see if teammates have it

[livid token]

ah good

Then 1 cast every rough 2mins

[rugged jewel]

I mean u can just cast it more often

[livid token]

No nedd to

Need

40s+70s =2min duration

[rugged jewel]

Thats if they step into it in the 40s

[livid token]

Ik

So rake like 15s out

Take

[rugged jewel]

It can be possible to not be in it when ur looting a lot

[pine walrus]

Bro is reading too much into thermal sunder

[pine walrus]

Is rhino best tech for alator @shell bay

[shell bay]

yes imo

i dont feel the difference of no speed much

[lost zephyr]

rhino best every intercep

fr

[shell bay]

the flex slot for either cyte is very very nice

u can do some stuff with the aura as well which is very nice

[restive swift]

best tech is triple

theres no reason not to

only not being able to find a player worth having as a 3rd

[shell bay]

dont think just triple

rhino for 2x cyte intercept

vauban for 2x cyte defense

[pine walrus]

[solar fractal]

Review after actively using BB Rhino (pre x2) + Sunder Wisp over the past few days
I used a 100% translator, so please understand if it sounds a bit awkward.

First of all, the biggest difference between this build and the conventional Volt + Wisp setup is the presence (or absence) of a speed buff.
If we think about the purpose of speed buffs, it’s likely for faster looting and shortening the time it takes for DPS players to return to camp after completing all loot routes before their Wisp mote buffs expire.

On smaller maps, speed buffs don’t seem very meaningful. Most of the time, you can reach the essence location and return to base with just a single parkour or slam, so speed doesn’t add much value.

On larger maps, speed buffs should theoretically be more useful. However, the limitation lies in the current Volt modding—it's difficult to extend duration further. On maps with terrible layouts like Cytherean, when essence drops continuously, players tend to start together but eventually split up. Sometimes drops happen simultaneously in different directions from the start. In such situations, it’s not easy for a Volt player to consistently provide speed buffs to everyone.

By using Thunder Wisp and reallocating stats (shifting from range—previously needed for maintaining Roar—to duration), you can extend mote duration by about 20 seconds compared to standard setups, which helps address this issue to some extent.
Of course, having Volt’s buff would still be faster in a perfectly executed, machine-like scenario. But in real gameplay, I don’t think it’s guaranteed to be strictly better.

In fact, every teammate I’ve been playing with recently has consistently answered “not at all” when asked if they feel inconvenienced by the absence of Volt.

Another important point is that the longer duration of Thunder Wisp benefits not just movement speed but especially the green mote duration.
It might be tempting to think, “you can just return to base quickly anyway,” but in real scenarios, continuous VE drops and other variables interfere. Even if the Wisp player places maintenance motes well, there are many situations where players can’t step on them. Any Cyte player has likely experienced moments where mote buffs drop off. If that happens far from pre-placed motes, you can lose over 10 seconds of shooting time, leading to VE loss and breaking concentration, which becomes quite stressful. Maintaining consistent tempo and condition over long (1+ hour) interception runs has value beyond visible buff numbers.

Also, the power of Thermal Sunder is significantly stronger when used by Wisp compared to a client. For client users, the periods during gameplay when they need to recast Thermal Sunder are a noticeable DPS loss, and it’s not always easy to make full use of the Nidus link on themselves while shooting. Being able to have Wisp handle this instead is an undeniable advantage.

Additionally, if clients don’t run Thermal Sunder, they gain an extra mod slot, allowing for more utility.

To summarize Wisp’s role in this setup: while it cannot fully replicate Volt’s speed, investing into duration compensates for the lack of speed in a meaningful way. You may lose some speed, but you gain significant quality-of-life advantages, especially for clients using Thunder Wisp.

Now moving on to Rhino.

Since Wisp partially compensates for the speed that Volt used to provide, Rhino must offer a clear advantage in terms of Roar.

The biggest issue with typical Wisp setups is that it’s hard to balance both duration and strength. On simple, small tiles, this isn’t a big problem—you can just refresh Roar more often. But on complex, large maps like Cytherean, Umbriel, Callisto, or Munio, it’s impossible to maintain 100% Roar uptime through effort alone. To compensate, you must invest in range. From my experience, Wisp needs at least ~170% range to handle all variables comfortably.

However, increasing range inevitably reduces duration, which leads to more frequent Roar recasts. This also means there are frequent situations where you can’t buff both DPS players simultaneously.

Additionally, while minor, Roar disappears briefly during each recast. Frequent refreshes, even if small, become disruptive.

As mentioned earlier, shorter mote duration becomes a bigger downside on large, complex maps. The more Wisp invests in range, the more this issue appears.

Rhino solves all of these problems cleanly. Since it’s the original Roar source (not a subsumed version), its base scaling is significantly stronger.

My current Rhino setup:

Range: 200%
Strength: 300%
Duration: 200% (4 strength shards / 1 energy shard)

With Arcane Concentration:

Roar duration: ~78 seconds
Range: ~60m
Strength: ~350% with BB, ~520% with Nidus link

Compared to Wisp, this is about +30 seconds duration and +15m range. While Wisp can have ~50% higher Roar strength with Nidus link, in practice, ~250% is already enough for Acid Shells to clear linked enemies efficiently. So the difference isn’t very impactful in real gameplay.

On the other hand, Wisp often drops below 200% Roar in cases like missing BB, losing Velicos, or failing to maintain Sling/Invigoration properly. Rhino, however, consistently maintains over 250% in all situations.

In short, Rhino provides far more stable Roar across all scenarios—longer range, longer duration, and consistent strength regardless of variables. While a highly skilled Wisp can mitigate many of these issues, Rhino doesn’t require that level of execution and is inherently more stable.

So ultimately, these two frames split and optimize what Volt tried to do alone. By giving up Volt’s speed, you eliminate its short duration issue and Wisp’s stat trade-off problem, resulting in a more optimized overall setup.

What about Volt’s Shock? That can be covered by the host running Shock, while the client previously running Thunder switches to Nourish. There may be even better variations.

Final summary:
This setup effectively redistributes Volt’s ambiguous role into two specialized roles, resulting in stat and utility gains equivalent to having ~0.5 extra Warframe in the squad.

I’m not saying this setup is strictly superior to all others. But it has a clear identity, and its advantages are logically grounded. In other words, the puzzle pieces fit.

Only downside: playing Wisp is way too sleepy 😴
Oh, and I think other comps are better for Defense missions.
Vauban for long, complex Defense missions, Volt dispensary for Ogris meta… and so on.

[rugged jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/yap-gif-439564423855971269

[shell bay]

My kaworu can yap all he wants 😍

[rugged jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/kiss-gif-11816971814746635421

spread rhino propaganda

[solar fractal]

🦏rhino propaganda🦏

[half bobcat]

Very nice yap BUT!

Vauban is essentially the better volt now. Especially with volts speed capped at +150% buff now . Vauban can provide a higher speed buff with almost 2 min duration so the buff running out too fast will not be an issue. The only drawback now is applying the buff where rhino will be considerably better.

I see rhino as a sidegrade. Either you get speed with vauban with a harder buff application or you dont need to worry about application with rhino and miss out on speed. In a vauban comp the dmg will be enough even without vector pad so buff running out wont be an issue. In other words, not taking the speed buff is up to the DPS and will not change whether or not they oneshot. I would argue its a better choice to run vauban but in the end it comes to preference.

also wisp needs to lock in if they cant hit the roars 😭 in a vauban comp

🧱

[hazy pumice]

holy yappers of the century

[half bobcat]

gotta match the yap energy

I dont wanna make a short argument without a good base to devalue the work put into the essay he wrote

[hazy pumice]

I think your argument is missing that umph

kowaru provides that umph

diza get on it

[half bobcat]

bruh

Ill include a brick to hit yourself with for the umph 🧱

[hazy pumice]

when your done editing the message again provide me a recipe on how to make Chinese Eggdrop soup

[half bobcat]

nah

I just added the brick

[hazy pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-anime-gif-5246998878331091072

[hazy pumice]

im gonna be real with you

your natural aegyo is not refreshing

[half bobcat]

da hell does that mean

"Aegyo literally means behaving in a flirtatious, coquettish manner and it is commonly expected for both male and female K-pop idols."

bruh

[rugged jewel]

Made With Lau

[solar fractal]

Oh, that’s a good point. Actually, I don’t yet have enough grounds to talk about Vauban.
The first reason is that our team members don’t really like Vauban.

And above all, I just wanted to talk about the advantages of the Rhino + Thunder Whip combo compared to Volt. Since each combo isn’t used much yet, there are few things we can be sure of.
If we were to debate the superiority of Vauban/Whip, Rhino/Whip, or 3Cyte/Whip, it probably wouldn’t be easy. Saying it’s not easy means that each of those combos has clear strengths.🤔

So actually, the best approach might be to flexibly use these combos in tiles or missions where their strengths are most pronounced. There might not be an all-purpose combo.👀
The simplest example is that we favor the Rhino/Whip combo, but we never use it in defense missions lol.

Above all, the part I most want to talk about is that the Rhino/Whip duo seems to be hardly used right now, but that doesn’t mean it’s not that worthwhile.
Everyone, try Rhino at least once at home! 🦏

[neon cloud]

Vauban good i use the dash to dash to some VE

[ornate quest]

i feel like rhino+wisp isn't that uncommon, sure not as much as vaubanwisp but I see a few people look for rhino regularly!
One thing I want to add as a wisp OTP : it's fun to use a new ability, gameplay stays very similar, but it's a bigger difference than just having a econv build and a 2cyte or pv build

ofcourse variety isn't gonna mean more vitus, but imo more variety (that doesnt hinder anything coughcough mirage chroma) is good

[neon cloud]

what we've been doing with vauban is having both DPS just run nourish

since dmg is alr huge

[ornate quest]

i know a way to stay capped at 1000 energy 100% of the time without nourrish

[neon cloud]

is that tech?

inf ammo? zen pre? or efficiency build?

[ornate quest]

essentially

with 2close mushrooms on nokko, using his 4 to bounce really fast on both of them, pulsing everytime

i can SPAM the fuck out of a 40 energy ability and the bar doesnt even go down

[neon cloud]

yeah, but like i don't run out of energy in camp alr

what do we subsume on the dps?

[ornate quest]

wait I didnt think of that

[neon cloud]

the thing you have to think about is outside camp

[ornate quest]

both shrooms have a 20m radius so like

you can turn both of those into a pretty big area

[neon cloud]

energy that drops from enemies with nourish will fill you up

[ornate quest]

on some maps it's very doable

[neon cloud]

how about bigger tiles?

[ornate quest]

like cinxia/odin you can probably cover most of the map

[ornate quest]

not viable then

[neon cloud]

the thing is yes this is true but on those tiles we don't have any sort of problems tbh

[ornate quest]

thats also the thing, what else are you gonna subsume on DPS

[primal shadow]

as much as i like nokko

he is not thaaat good

he is very cool to play tho

[ornate quest]

I would say he is not AS good but he is not THAT bad

[primal shadow]

no like

he is basiaclly on the same tier as octavia volt now

which means very viable but not best

[ornate quest]

yee

[primal shadow]

bis is rhino vauban

or 3rd dps

[neon cloud]

we could argue we could put energized munitions/infested mobility but like eehh

[ornate quest]

i think the main issue from that would be that, it's already a bit hard to know what to put on nokko if client already uses sunder and you defo wanna keep roar on wisp

so on one hand you might opt for a range build on nokko so that both his shrooms have a 80m diameter radius

which is insane

but also that means the fast bounce tech doesnt work as much (still very much works) + you have 2-3dead abilities on nokko

uncap his mushroom str DE

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-sonic-the-hedgehog-tails-knuckles-freaky-gif-12830799583270855342

[neon cloud]

yes you are gaining energy but you'll be losing rhino roar power/vauban speed and dmg for like an increase of str whihc tbh is not rly needed

wisp will still have to roar

and have to slot in range

[ornate quest]

you mostly lose rhino range

i think our wisp yday on nokko comp had 320% unlinked roar

and 600% linked

[neon cloud]

I believe rhino wisp sunder is for gas comps right? @primal shadow cuz higher roar makes gas go big

[ornate quest]

higher sunder works for blast tho

[neon cloud]

but vauban for elec/blast is better as sunder does not increase blast dmg only blast chance

[normal zealot]

Solo DPS with rhino citrine wisp

[primal shadow]

well, is not higher roar but higher sunder

[normal zealot]

[neon cloud]

ic ic

[primal shadow]

roar is about the same just bigger dange/duration

which makes it basically that you are dented if you miss

[ornate quest]

oooh i see i see

[neon cloud]

and base on their build rhino has parkour shrds as well making it easier for him right?

[ornate quest]

i mean vauban is just better for dmg overall ye

[primal shadow]

yea but i think 1 mod 1 shard and praedos is like enough

[neon cloud]

I only tried vauban 1 and know the pellet dmg scales but not the acid/gas/elec increases or am I wrong?

[primal shadow]

rhino is just very comfy and i see why is used, but imo vauban just feels better

[primal shadow]

yea

but i lowk need to test that better

[neon cloud]

so I'd expect if going the rhino/wisp sunder route to increase roar dmg for gas could be a nice viable option

[primal shadow]

cuz it does affect affect toxic lash on ogris

[neon cloud]

maybe will be a defense gas fix

[primal shadow]

meaning you get like 100m tox ticjs

[neon cloud]

hmmm

[ornate quest]

whats your tech to remember padding tho, when it was placed in hotspots i'd hit it for fun, but with the tech to put it against a wall

i always forgot to use it

probably easier for DPS to remember i guess like just hit it once per rotation or something?

[primal shadow]

wdym

you asking how do i pad?

[ornate quest]

how do you consistently remember to go on it

and not forget for 3mins

[solar fractal]

I always set up pads so I can fly straight to the VE too, but for some reason, they’re not very popular.

[ornate quest]

unless you just remember

[primal shadow]

i dont

lol

[ornate quest]

yeah i think thats a best way to do it tbh, you might get lower pads because vauban isnt linked all the time but eh

[primal shadow]

i just put it on a place that you can easily see

dont use fking red like i have seen

that sht blends in

[primal shadow]

is better into a wall right next to where most ppl loot

[neon cloud]

movement tech trust have a safety pad that is for the wall and a VE pad

[solar fractal]

In mithra using pads to zip between D and the main base is really fun—everyone should try it.

[primal shadow]

lol

[solar fractal]

At first, the Cytes get confused when you set up pads like that, but they eventually give in and start using them actively to grab Essence.

🤣

[normal zealot]

I always forget to pad

For intercepts rhino better for me personally cause comfort

Especially not needign to cast ts

[pine walrus]

Sounds like everyone here has a skill issue

[primal shadow]

Teach me

[hazy pumice]

shut up

[primal shadow]

Kiss me

[hazy pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/tease-monsters-vs-aliens-blue-blob-blob-blue-gif-5936413218618850443

[primal shadow]

Check dms bbg

[solar fractal]

[lost zephyr]

wisp shock

[primal shadow]

im down

[lost zephyr]

Bottom

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1482782864536895498/1482783071995695319/Screenshot_2026-03-16_000649.png?ex=69c75e19&is=69c60c99&hm=e75750539e9d3f0ef92f65538cb5f661d2724a4a5accbe33fa6d880e43d32479&

change to shock and shock trooper

since obbek fix

[neon cloud]

or just double nourish

who needs shock anyways

[normal zealot]

What does 2nd cyte run

[lost zephyr]

either nourish so u dont rely on other one to buff u

or disp to proc energy conversion

[normal zealot]

Energized munitions

[lost zephyr]

[normal zealot]

-Mag riven cope

[lost zephyr]

i played em before

its useless

[normal zealot]

I played em strun before getting boar

The dark early days

[lost zephyr]

well with strun maybe yea

[normal zealot]

Infested mobility maybe on big maps ig

But nourish sounds the most chill ngl

[lost zephyr]

no its usless too

just go 2x nourish

[normal zealot]

Free from casting TS

[lost zephyr]

u will bump too much with infested mobility

[solar fractal]

Update it quickly, scrub.

[shell bay]

i gatekeep all tech

[solar fractal]

open

[shell bay]

i mean this comp can still work

if u run gas shock is worthless except for elemental damage scaling

[half bobcat]

host boar tech to compensate

[shell bay]

🐗

[lost zephyr]

boarger

[shell bay]

boar will come back when sobek gets gutted

https://tenor.com/view/boar-boars-boar-my-beloved-my-beloved-my-beloved-meme-gif-25564237

[lost zephyr]

boar will never go extinct

[half bobcat]

all well and good till cytes 1st ability gets gutted

[shell bay]

then we all retire

quit this shit game

survival best gamemode

[solar fractal]

👀

[primal shadow]

[half bobcat]

[solar fractal]

To find out Scrub’s new tech, you have no choice but to reveal his bad hobby.

🔥

[hazy pumice]

[shell bay]

i ahve no such bad hobby

[solar fractal]

Like forcing kids who are only MR 5 to go into Arbitration and making them grind 600 VE per hour…

[shell bay]

[solar fractal]

Or take complete green guys who are doing Arbi for the first time, and spend an hour teaching them how to play without letting them actually run the mission…

That’s a really dangerous hobby.

[neon cloud]

[solar fractal]

I also got locked up by Scrub on Ose for an hour once, being “taught.”

Hey! Don’t use Galvanized Hell here! Use Counterbalance instead, except for Acceleration!

He told me, “Accept the friend request! Ask again next time!” — that was really scary.

Back then, he also said, “Get KOREANAIR involved!”

That’s it Scrub’s bad hobby.🤣

[solar fractal]

This person has a similar hobby too. The two of them are very alike.

A terrifying hobby of turning green guys into experts.

🔥

[primal shadow]

[normal zealot]

What does xatas actually do

[shell bay]

[normal zealot]

so for boar blast?

[solar fractal]

👀

[pine walrus]

it makes a little army of friends

[half bobcat]

infested friens

I love infested friens

[hazy pumice]

ban rhino

[shell bay]

🦏 good

[solar fractal]

🦏 good

but munio BAN rhino

[shell bay]

munio bad

[south stream]

munio best

[solar fractal]

In Munio, Vauban's pads will save your VE!

[rugged jewel]

Mag pull

[solar fractal]

🤔

[hazy pumice]

I just personally think we're overcooking, especially with finding out sunder causing lag, I get rhino brings the ability to hit your dps with roar at any part of the map for big tiles but at what point your sacrificing duration and strength to mod for range.

when you can just have your wisp run the 145 range build and be fine and have good roar % and coverage, or if you trust your wisp the duration build for that matter.

with this in mind it just opens up more ability for team comps overall e.g. vauban, volt, nokko whatever in my personal opinion no shade just kinda see it as pointless.

furthermore, just rhino brings no qol to the table apart from being able to hit roars across the map, let's say your wisp misses roar and you have a vauban in your team youd still be able to kill enemies and not do 5k dmg per shot again I understand you are more focused on killing in interceptions than worrying about buffs but thats the whole point of why I built vauban for duration so you dont have to worry about it. pick the pads up you have the buff for the 2m and it guarantees you can still kill w/e roar and SPEED.

looting between rounds you come back to camp and you hit it again . Just my opinion once again no shade just dont see a point in this.

[neon cloud]

kind of my opinion aswell

[south stream]

you cant taranis right

[hazy pumice]

thank you lmao

[neon cloud]

hold it right now I'll do it rn

I still have time actually

ohh wait it just got on I can play it

[pine walrus]

close the thread gg

[winter stump]

nah I want nuclear radius roar

[lost zephyr]

Yes

Dont close the thread

[rugged jewel]

72m roar 60s is fire

[lost zephyr]

60s?

Mine is 100

[rugged jewel]

Whats range tho

[lost zephyr]

Idk

Enough

[rugged jewel]

I have cncr

So i make range almost max

So i can afk

Rhino lets u have empower afk wisp

[shell bay]

while sunder has been found out to lag host, the issues seems contained to only boar hosts. In interception, no enemy requires more damage than 1.2k% dmg pre, 300% roar, 2k% elemental damage. the benefit of rhino comps is that all these 3 damage sources are essentially infinite and impossible to miss.

rhino roar has 68s with 56m range, can run 3 cast speed so no downtime during the roar animation
wisp sunder leaves the puddle which lasts 36 seconds and applies a 68 second buff

yes while vauban provides damage buff, for a sobek, you will still require roar. A missed roar is the difference between using a sobek and a worse boar. acid shells only scale with roar, resupply str and elemental damage multiplier

while a seasoned team will get more value from vauban because he simply provides an additional scaling of 40x dmg multiplier, the damage can be considered overkill. the speed aspect of vauban is valuable, however, most maps are traversed with bullet jumps and rolls, pv shards + wisp motes are sufficient.

overall, if you enjoy the speed buff from volt, the transition to vauban is good, and it adds a slight damage buffer to when you are roarless. however, rhino comp leaves close to 0 rooms for error for both dps and support. buffs are easy to apply for support, and dps dont have to worry abt losing the buffs.

[rugged jewel]

Gonna start wisping for ppl the n go sleep

[solar fractal]

We’re using Vauban, Rhino, and Citrine quite effectively. Rather than one being strictly better, it’s likely that each has specific tilesets where they truly shine. I enjoy playing all support roles. However, the reason we don’t run 3cyte is that the third candidate’s skill level is...

[shell bay]

spread rhino propaganda

🦏

[neon cloud]

I've played with it

[shell bay]

please i dont want to spend 30mins LFG rhino when im back

1.1k team have proven it works

[neon cloud]

Its actually kinda the most consistent team comp

[shell bay]

consistency is good for a 1h run

[fringe pagoda]

I prefer 2x cyte

3x cyte requires more coordination at times for energy also harder for the wisp to hit all 3

[shell bay]

3x only works imo if ping is low

KA and akwsjr have 20ms and are out performing 3x cytes

[fringe pagoda]

The 3rd isn’t really needed on any map tbh

[neon cloud]

I also am preferring 2x

[fringe pagoda]

Just helpful for less experienced cytes

[neon cloud]

But 3x is like good if you are new

[shell bay]

moar rhino

🦏

spread rhino propaganda

spread 3x sd propaganda

mod citrine on your sobek

spawns have 20 sec cd

3x sd makes clouds 24secs

[fringe pagoda]

Too long just elec or blast

[torpid idol]

🦏

[shell bay]

🦏

[neon cloud]

Stfu or you'll make them prices go up

I need a better grade 1

[shell bay]

i have best riven out there already

[fringe pagoda]

Bro got nitro

Tuff

[neon cloud]

Yo roll me it and gimme

[shell bay]

its mine

[heavy bison]

guys i was hater on this comp

[torpid idol]

gimme that

[heavy bison]

but that shit hits

[shell bay]

yesyesyes

moar rhinos

[neon cloud]

Give me that

[untold iron]

1k plat

[shell bay]

i have -mag

[lost zephyr]

Status duration mods

[neon cloud]

Yo gimme since you retire

[shell bay]

do u want it

[lost zephyr]

[fringe pagoda]

Don’t buy from that guy

He is a scammer

[torpid idol]

i love mag

[heavy bison]

good comp

[fringe pagoda]

Wait nvm it’s not gramer

[neon cloud]

Yo scrub gimme you retire 1 month I give you that

[fringe pagoda]

Go buy

[shell bay]

[fringe pagoda]

✅

[neon cloud]

Back yrust

[solar fractal]

👀

[heavy bison]

b camp is so good bro

[neon cloud]

Put ts in the guide

[normal zealot]

is gas wo citrine actual tech

[torpid idol]

[shell bay]

@ivory cobalt

proven

best interception comp

most consistent

1.1k approved

[heavy bison]

rhino interception vauban defense

i approve now

[shell bay]

vauban best for defense

tyty

my job here is done

🦏

[solar fractal]

🦏

[torpid idol]

🦏

[normal zealot]

wisp runs shock and cyte both nourish?

[neon cloud]

🦏

[normal zealot]

🦏

[heavy bison]

i will say the thermal was cooking my fps, i was 40fps host for that run

[pliant prairie]

🦏

[shell bay]

no

[lost zephyr]

Or thermal

[heavy bison]

atleast i think thats problem

[neon cloud]

Wisp nourish

[shell bay]

i will not elaborate

so rhino bb

[neon cloud]

Eeeh

[shell bay]

🦏

[neon cloud]

Wisp nourish I like shock as cyte

[torpid idol]

double shock if elec, shock+smite if gas

best

[lost zephyr]

🦏

[torpid idol]

wisp thermal

[neon cloud]

✅

[shell bay]

thermal

[heavy bison]

2x nourish max comfort

[neon cloud]

Nah nourish cuz I don't like sunder lagging me

[shell bay]

or trust wisp to nourish

[heavy bison]

my eelog was 6gb from the thermal

[torpid idol]

korean internet advantage

[neon cloud]

Make wisp have 10x subsumes

[fringe pagoda]

If they can’t hit roar to where we need rhino

[shell bay]

nourish on wisp prob gives like 600% element

[fringe pagoda]

They can’t hit nourish

[heavy bison]

my client is 90ms

[shell bay]

u can spam nourish

[neon cloud]

No nourish they'll hit nourish

Cuz you can spam it

[shell bay]

[torpid idol]

invite your client to your house when arbi

[neon cloud]

My client is 150ms

[shell bay]

wtb low ping SEA team

[normal zealot]

my client left me for someone else 💔

[shell bay]

one day we will get a proepr 30ms tirple cyte

[heavy bison]

@plain spire come over bbg

[shell bay]

why we leak

[fringe pagoda]

Still cooked 🥀

[heavy bison]

maybe i play 2 accounts at once, i get 4ms to myself

[fringe pagoda]

Energized cast time is so bad

And duration

[shell bay]

its instant 3 cast + nat tal

[heavy bison]

fleeting if skill issue looting (me)

[fringe pagoda]

The acid shells is still slow

[shell bay]

it helps with gas coverage

if u get resupply bug

u kill the spawn without gas

[plain spire]

omw

[torpid idol]

175 eff is necessary ig

[neon cloud]

Trust in the 175

[torpid idol]

i use 175 eff, p ammo stock, zenurik

[shell bay]

[neon cloud]

100% ovrcharge uptime

[torpid idol]

for 100% oc uptime

[shell bay]

u dont even feel -mag now

[torpid idol]

👺

[shell bay]

uw my -mag?

[torpid idol]

nah

[neon cloud]

Twas what I was saying to people

[torpid idol]

i hate -mag

[heavy bison]

send build, what do you replace?

[torpid idol]

need mag fr

[neon cloud]

No dont

[shell bay]

dont share

[neon cloud]

Only asians can know the build

[torpid idol]

ehhh

[shell bay]

i gave u that build KA

[fringe pagoda]

Do not the -mag riven

[shell bay]

👀

[fringe pagoda]

[shell bay]

gatekeep everything

[heavy bison]

im leaking all tech

gg

[torpid idol]

gg

wts my build 1k plat

[shell bay]

always trading KA

[neon cloud]

I'll sell the build 750 plat

[heavy bison]

wtb ka build 67p

[hazy pumice]

what food is that in your pfp

[torpid idol]

ah

[solar fractal]

Why is it so active in here?

[shell bay]

🦏

[fringe pagoda]

You already sent them all to me ?

[torpid idol]

kimchi stew/soup

[heavy bison]

🦏

[fringe pagoda]

[torpid idol]

so delicious

[neon cloud]

You don't have it

[hazy pumice]

send recipe

[neon cloud]

Sadly

[torpid idol]

ill post my build tomorrow

dead for now🛌

[neon cloud]

Yo chill

[torpid idol]

gg

[hazy pumice]

I'll try cook next time and show how I do

[neon cloud]

Go die

And not send build

[lost zephyr]

Arcane steadfast

[fringe pagoda]

It’s ok I get 1k w/o

[hazy pumice]

im gonna leak

[shell bay]

🦏

[rugged jewel]

-transient

[neon cloud]

I can't even get 1k 6.9 sat

[rugged jewel]

For streamline -parkour for natural talent

[shell bay]

🦏

tldr

[rugged jewel]

[shell bay]

moar rhino bb

proven

teseted

[fringe pagoda]

It’s not the build it’s the player

[shell bay]

approved

🦏

[neon cloud]

Then i see 12^16^ sat

Get 1k

Its gg

Dw koreanair will buy me PC

[torpid idol]

good morning

[solar fractal]

[torpid idol]

time to leak my build

[neon cloud]

He'll send me a pc

My laptop might be melting kinda

[torpid idol]

gimme 5k plat first @neon cloud

[shell bay]

when 1 billion plat sir

[fringe pagoda]

That’s actually good deal

[neon cloud]

Wait pc for plat?

[torpid idol]

build for plat

what

plat for build

english issue

[solar fractal]

[winter stump]

what if i make a rhino guide instead of a vauban guide to get more rhino players since vauban SUCKS

[neon cloud]

Nah he gonna buy me pc for 5k plat you all heard it

[neon cloud]

[torpid idol]

normal elec build

[rugged jewel]

[untold iron]

-kavat grace

[torpid idol]

sd build

[vast scaffold]

where Unairu ? ? ? ?

[torpid idol]

no unairu

gg

[rugged jewel]

No valk tech?

[solar fractal]

[rugged jewel]

Health conv …

[torpid idol]

health conversion🔥

[rugged jewel]

Cry of war

🔥🔥

[neon cloud]

Ohh yeah KA build is cursed

[fringe pagoda]

This is exactly what you linked me souls - health conversion

[neon cloud]

That was in the past

I believe I used his build in the past

[fringe pagoda]

Souls I already told you

Come to my house

😭

[neon cloud]

Then i got paranoid about dmg and people telling me I needed str and my anxiety was messed up cuz I apparently need str

Then I realize my wisp just sucks

So go rhino

[torpid idol]

need really good kimchi, pork, korean msg gg

[winter stump]

ok but what subsume did KA have on wisp

[torpid idol]

sunder

[fringe pagoda]

I might have to try it

[pliant prairie]

thermal

[torpid idol]

rhino bb + wisp sunder🔥

[fringe pagoda]

I usually have no problems except tyana tho

[neon cloud]

Ong

[fringe pagoda]

Dmg wise

[winter stump]

i thought ppl saying sunder too laggy

[neon cloud]

Goated

[neon cloud]

Its flex

You can have every1

I want nourish so wisp can add range inst of mod slot

[whole sonnet]

shock smite wisp nourish now?

[fringe pagoda]

Wisp will just be loading in and looting soon

[torpid idol]

just existence of sunder matters? i have no issue when i run sunder boar with 200ms host

[fringe pagoda]

We gonna be having wisp specters making the motes soon

[winter stump]

idk the details

[fringe pagoda]

[torpid idol]

nourish dead

just go 175 eff

[whole sonnet]

hmmm

[neon cloud]

2x cyte rhino bb vauban nourish wisp specter

[whole sonnet]

might try

[winter stump]

do motes on ur 2nd acc then afk on it

[neon cloud]

True

[winter stump]

how to fill every run

[fringe pagoda]

Wait

[neon cloud]

175 no one trust

[fringe pagoda]

Thas tech

[winter stump]

2/4 every time

[fringe pagoda]

Then I know my wisp won’t desync

[winter stump]

ong brah 0 ping on that mf

[fringe pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/genius-think-be-clever-be-smart-gif-10617231

[rugged jewel]

Bruh ive been saying

Empower wisp

On 2nd acc

So free

[winter stump]

cooking

[neon cloud]

Cooking

[winter stump]

macro the rhino

on ur 3rd acc

[shell bay]

my king pls 🦏

[lost zephyr]

Spread rhiner

[fringe pagoda]

Then macro vauban

And solo the map

[rugged jewel]

Solo 🤔

Solo tyana 1.2k koreanair incoming

[normal zealot]

when do you use this build? and is the riven ms fr sd?

[rugged jewel]

Gas, yes

[winter stump]

might do this as my get banned from warframe project

[torpid idol]

tyana, callisto for now but i need to test more maps like cytherean

[normal zealot]

do you use gas without citrine?

and if citrine is the normal build fine

[torpid idol]

yea damage gonna be shit

[whole sonnet]

what shards u using?

[normal zealot]

so just never citrine? how many dps run gas?

[torpid idol]

2cyte and riven is ms sd

[hazy pumice]

I'll see what I can do hard to find these Asian shops around me

[lost zephyr]

Find pierogi

[hazy pumice]

dude

[lost zephyr]

Let them taste the Polish god food

[hazy pumice]

I love pierogi

[normal zealot]

ty goat

[torpid idol]

[whole sonnet]

hmmmm

i was like that as well

[fringe pagoda]

[lost zephyr]

Finally

Good shard selection

[fringe pagoda]

Tuff

[shell bay]

[vast scaffold]

[fringe pagoda]

Only shard option

[whole sonnet]

elec shard ass

[lost zephyr]

Wtb cyte with 3 elec shards

[normal zealot]

does ability strength not matter even when running shock?

[fringe pagoda]

No

[hazy pumice]

anyone got any info on how much bbls are rn

[torpid idol]

jade pre gives 150 + mushroom 200 + power dono 30

[normal zealot]

what have i been running all this time

[fringe pagoda]

I got you

[torpid idol]

just put more utilities

[fringe pagoda]

I can do it free

[vast scaffold]

I can only see the nose ring 🧐

[neon cloud]

Look at these plebs

Sd riven

Been telling every1 to run sd sobek

[shell bay]

no one thought to track spawn cd

[fringe pagoda]

Overkill

[neon cloud]

Fck citrine kill citrine

[whole sonnet]

not on corpus no?

[fringe pagoda]

It is on Cytherean

Idk about Callisto

[whole sonnet]

callisto seems fine

[fringe pagoda]

There is slight difference

[torpid idol]

sd in callisto is good

[fringe pagoda]

But the higher intensity the map is the less it affects spawns

[torpid idol]

hit 1k every run fr

[fringe pagoda]

That’s why on Callisto it’s fine

Vs playing it on cytherean noticeable diff for me atleast

Expected wise

[normal zealot]

i assume sd on riven is mandatory

[fringe pagoda]

Went from 718 with gas to 800 expected without similar clears

[normal zealot]

is 3p1n enough or does it need to be 2p1n

[whole sonnet]

use elec?

[shell bay]

3p is bis

[fringe pagoda]

Ye elec and blast sobek

[shell bay]

2p is wasted gas duration

[whole sonnet]

or a lower gas

ohh

[normal zealot]

have_flower

[whole sonnet]

hmm

hb xini?

[shell bay]

do not gas infested

[fringe pagoda]

Do not the gas xini

[shell bay]

actually throwing

[whole sonnet]

kill the pods and reduce drones no?

[fringe pagoda]

Went from 720 expected

[whole sonnet]

the gas

[fringe pagoda]

To 840 expected

[shell bay]

yea

reduces drones

[normal zealot]

can i slot mag over vig armaments? sometimes i dont reload fast enough

[whole sonnet]

wow

[fringe pagoda]

Maybe 850 I don’t remember

[shell bay]

slot ammo stock

[fringe pagoda]

800++ tile tho

[shell bay]

over elementalist

[fringe pagoda]

And clear was mid

[whole sonnet]

yeah

[neon cloud]

Dw guys i've been telling people this they don't trust me

They all hate me

[whole sonnet]

xini enemy dcattered

[normal zealot]

status damage not needed?

[whole sonnet]

i trust u bro

[torpid idol]

yea

[whole sonnet]

gas > elec bro

[shell bay]

if u have roar

it triple dips gas

[whole sonnet]

6s gas good on cyth?

[torpid idol]

see my build again

[whole sonnet]

ur not overkilling right?

[torpid idol]

slot ammo stock when using elec

[fringe pagoda]

I don’t think affects much I’m not for sure tho

[neon cloud]

I also think it won't do anything that significant

[fringe pagoda]

I don’t have issues with elec and blast so I just use these

[whole sonnet]

hmmm

[shell bay]

we need to try with scorn tbh

[normal zealot]

how consistent is tempo on normal sobek

[shell bay]

weve been getting same expecteds even with 3x sd gas

[whole sonnet]

or we can try elec

last time our 800 run scorn using elec

[fringe pagoda]

I mean you can overkill on elec

[whole sonnet]

iirc

[shell bay]

ehhh but out 778 expected was gas

[fringe pagoda]

Dark has proven it

[whole sonnet]

dark bruh

[whole sonnet]

maybe with eelc we get 800+ expected?

could try

nah i js want a better net fr

[shell bay]

bad clear tho even with gas

[whole sonnet]

who cares bout elements if u cant even proc them

[shell bay]

so

[neon cloud]

Asia just want better net

Dw i'll mke my friend play

I'll get 20 ms client trust

[fringe pagoda]

Just move in already

Let’s tripple with key tyana 1.5k

[neon cloud]

You'll be my sugar daddy and I'll get green card there

[fringe pagoda]

Bet

[neon cloud]

Trust

[fringe pagoda]

You gone have to sign a pre nub tho

[normal zealot]

do you both run sobek? if ping is bad/client is running boar what would you do

[shell bay]

u suck it up

u dont get the level of clear they do

p2w game

[normal zealot]

yeah but what do you do

[rugged jewel]

^^

no fkn NA west players bro

[shell bay]

just run boar sc

[normal zealot]

does boar client run gas

[torpid idol]

50ms = boar

[rugged jewel]

then u need sunder

[shell bay]

client wld need to be non prebuffed

[shell bay]

i think its cope

weve been running sunder for the longest time

but base it off ur own experience

[torpid idol]

50ms sobek = weak boar fr

[shell bay]

ive never noticed it

[rugged jewel]

wait nvm it lags boar host

[untold iron]

befor sobek fixed

we use boar blast

with sc build

[rugged jewel]

yuh

i need to find myself a chinese squad and practice to beat the koreans

too bad im living NA 🤣

shit pc shit net gg

maybe i stick to supporting kaworu

[normal zealot]

is MS SD Mag good

or mag not needed

[shell bay]

BIS sometimes

[ivory cobalt]

we already knew it would be good yeah
the debate was more for base duration for bigger intercepts to not block spawns versus goin double sd no citrine for 18s gas to help upkeep drone kills on the higher tier interceptions like callisto etc
like if it was worth the trade off or if it even affected them really
for defense it doesnt matter much as far as blocking spawns, set number per wave and all
as for rhino+bb instead of vauban on interceptions, i think it comes down to if you arent confident in wisp being able to land roar or if you prefer the vector pad speed
cuz the damage difference is moot with lower enemy scaling

[rugged jewel]

mag is fake go -mag

[normal zealot]

would you pay 700p for one

[shell bay]

consistency is key though in a long 1h mission

as proven by the KR team whose average have been very steady

[rugged jewel]

lowkey put the 73m roar in the bag

duration is fake 🤣

[fringe pagoda]

Solo it

[ivory cobalt]

[shell bay]

outsourcing all damage buffs to supports and letting dps run whatever they are comfortable with is quite the benefit

[ivory cobalt]

put the skillissue in the bag fr

[rugged jewel]

ur right

thats why i run 73m roar

i dont even open my map

🤣

[ivory cobalt]

if you cant land 35m roar from a central camp spot

46m with stretch slapped on

[shell bay]

its not just about landing roar

[rugged jewel]

ive had to roar

[ivory cobalt]

[rugged jewel]

from one side of map

[shell bay]

even with roar u wld need an additional multiplier

[rugged jewel]

while dps on other side

[shell bay]

which is either element or vauban dmg buff

we cld just make buffing so much simpler and have less margin of error for everyone

[ivory cobalt]

wym? with vauban u have vector with wisp roar, with rhino u have roar and wisp with thermal/shock/etc

[solar fractal]

👀

[shell bay]

yes but even if u get vauban buff

u wld still need roar

why not just outsource the buffs such that they are perma up

with vauban, wisp can miss roar and dps can forget to step on pads

[rugged jewel]

let it be known i was the first rhino believer 💯

[lost zephyr]

🦏

[shell bay]

it might be skill issue but it is inevitable a team will eventually make these errors

much like how IGLs in games usually perform worse in aiming

[lost zephyr]

rhino king

with boar

[shell bay]

this will be especially noticeable on maps where looting hell is present

sometimes 10x ve spawn randomly

[rugged jewel]

how about you don't loot and play for expected VE?

[shell bay]

and the team breaks the instaloot cycle

[rugged jewel]

🔥

[shell bay]

rhino comps entirely mitigate that possibility

[rugged jewel]

surely if no one loots, expected VE will be highest

[shell bay]

a skilled team will never miss roar or miss sunder/shock/nourish/smite

[rugged jewel]

when shooting gallery tech (its ass)

[shell bay]

example: the 1.1k runs

[solar fractal]

👀

[shell bay]

therefore i think rhino has value and should be in the guide

[lost zephyr]

just play 3 cyte like us

[shell bay]

wtb low ping

then we can test the limits

[rugged jewel]

ill client for you! @shell bay

[lost zephyr]

triple cyte is

[rugged jewel]

def not 300ping

[shell bay]

but as it stands 2c seems to be winning over shit net 3c

[lost zephyr]

overkill anyway

2 cytes are better but unfortunately we all wanna play cytes

on nice maps

but i see no problem at all with our vitus gains

[rugged jewel]

when 1.2k from KA

[solar fractal]

There are really a lot of people who want to play cyte.

[neon cloud]

Most consistent comp is rhino/wisp snd you aren't giving up wisp motes buff so mostly you can have 400~ motes etc. also buffs like shock/smite with the no stop animation is good and the problem now is speed which tbh every tile is easy asfck to not have speed

100% consistency is bis and I would say this is the easiest most team friendly comp there is right now

[solar fractal]

I already wrote a long post about this two weeks ago.

🦏

[shell bay]

🦏

[rugged jewel]

🦏

[torpid idol]

🦏

[lost zephyr]

embrace pink rhino

[ivory cobalt]

@strange palm they tryna find any reason to revive and take your <@&1198437143824044153>

[rugged jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/rigby-cat-rigby-the-cat-tongue-silly-gif-12392253191548833774

[winter stump]

they had it figured out ages ago

we just too blind to see

[solar fractal]

I already have 20 Rhino SS saved up.

[ivory cobalt]

bullet in the chamber

[solar fractal]

🔥

[half bobcat]

Rhono goodge for interception since its harder for dps to worry about buffs like vector pad.

For defense I prefer speed from vauban tho since keeping buff up is easy with downtime between waves

[fringe pagoda]

I hope you get first rhino expert

[winter stump]

just dont play defense