COOP - Release

[umbral jungle]

i can only say to reduce your sim counts in the server menu, that's been known to cause issues

i've already investigated those bugs but i've never had them happen

this is really good to know though, because nobody ever said they had a clients sim in the group

[drifting spruce]

This issue happens every time, and it happens as soon as I set up coop. I don't have to invite another human player for the sims to stop functioning/syncing. I will try to reduce the sim player count and see if that provides any solution

And thank you for being so responsive Mizuki!

[trim moth]

I put it at 30, along with the one person I'm cooping with. The issue we're mostly seeing now is the sims attacking him when he's in the party.

I'm wondering if it's because he's tab targetting the summon the Druid has?

As for this, I found a workaround. I invite the sims I plan on having into my party before making the game multiplayer and it seems to stop the bug. Here are the steps:

1. Go into game and invite w/e sims you want
2. Make game multiplayer
3. Invite sims back into party since they are now in front of you
4. Invite friends into party

I'm assuming it has to do with accidental "cloning" of sims when a player joins, which bugs it out. I tend to see duplicates of the same sim with the bug you were talking about, but these steps seemed to fix it

[drifting spruce]

This worked! Thank you so much!

[maiden basin]

🍊

[umbral jungle]

[umbral jungle]

i'll probably rewrite a bunch of the syncing stuff for next release and reduce packet traffic as well

a lot of stuff has changed in the game and im mostly just hotfixing so it at least runs

there's a lot of bandaids that shouldn't be there because im trying to avoid actually copying code from the game which would make it a ton easier

@placid flint literally making my job harder

[placid flint]

copy the code idgaf 🙂

[trim moth]

That's based af

[placid flint]

mizuki has done nothing but amazing things to and for erenshor i'd be silly if i did stuff to make life harder for her

[umbral jungle]

[trim moth]

Legit Mizuki your coop mod is amazing and managed to get 3 of my friends into the game. They were already super interested and this sealed it for them

10/10 work

[maiden basin]

🍊

[umbral jungle]

[jade thorn]

The mod was amazing when I played last December. Have there been any changes since then?

[cedar drum]

Hi ! I'm playign on Steam Deck and i plan to try the coop mod with a friend (on Steam Deck also.) Anything i should know ? Do i need to do somth special ?

[thorny zenith]

brother and i were having issues with xp and parties being wonky, not sure if aware or been reported but the 2nd person to make a party would be stuck in their group and the sims basically wouldnt interact with them at all. As well as if i added him to my party he would recieve no xp. Awesome mod ❤️

[thorny zenith]

also wanted to note that it appears as tho if you use a guild member as a party member it completely borks everything

[lusty relic]

I'm having the same trouble/error that you were, but reinstall does not seem to help. Any suggestions?

[potent viper]

gonna say this i think coop is interesting and fun and was surprisingly really optimized

[turbid hearth]

If I do coop, can me and a friend also play solo? It brings our Sim Players in right? I assume quest progress is fine for both players?

Also, do I just drag the Coop modfiles into the BepInEx plugin folder?

[thorny zenith]

if you dont group together the entire mod breaks unfortunately

and whoever is hosting will need to be the one inviting the sims, and will need to only invite sims from "their world"

[umbral jungle]

[turbid hearth]

We'd be grouped, I just mean would the person not hosting have quest progress so if he were to play solo he'd be as progressed as when he joins "my world"

[umbral jungle]

none of that is shared

quest progress is individual

[queen nova]

hail and well met coop players, is there an updated file newer than the one at the top posted?

[umbral jungle]

latest is always here, good luck https://thunderstore.io/c/erenshor/p/mizuki/Erenshor_COOP/

pro tip: turn your sim count down

[queen nova]

thanks mizuki, as someone who's dumb with computer stuff is there a "here's how you get it to work stupid" read me?

[broken quail]

https://github.com/et508/Erenshor.BepInEx/releases/tag/e1 you need this. extract it into the game directory. Steam\steamapps\common\Erenshor

your game folder should look like this after [the step below].

launch the game, maybe load into a character idk, then exit the game. then add the mod .dll into bepinex/plugins. or however it says to install it on the mod page. but you gotta load in and exit first so bepinex can initialize and setup itself

[spark mural]

@queen nova Just curious if you got it working or not. Considering inviting a friend to play but Mizuki seemed unsure if it still functions or not 🤣

[queen nova]

honestly didn't even try, i'm not computer savvy and i couldn't figure it out

[spark mural]

Fair enough!

[broken quail]

what couldn't you figure out?

tell us so we can help. don't just give up.

[thorny zenith]

it works, lil janky at some spots but it def works

[umbral jungle]

jank is my second name

[past crag]

she's said it twice today alone! =D

[thorny zenith]

is it a family name? its beautiful

[umbral jungle]

[queen nova]

so i got everything set up, but i still don't see anywehre to actually open up and invite him to the server

log in, don't see anywhere to host and /host does not work

[queen nova]

got it working!

[potent viper]

congratz 😄

[queen nova]

Anyone know if the coop thing will let you trade somehow? We weren’t able to

[digital vigil]

just drop the items

[queen nova]

We tried that he didn’t see them on the ground

[digital vigil]

you won't see the item itself on the ground, just a shiny effect

[queen nova]

Ohhhh

[digital vigil]

try it

[queen nova]

How do you pick up? E?

[digital vigil]

yes

[regal gulch]

Does this mod still work? 5 of us want to pick up the game to play on LAN, but only if the coop mod works.

[maiden basin]

🍊

[queen nova]

It works, a little bit of jam lines sometimes but me and friend are having a blast

[broken quail]

jam lines? edit: i hope the urbandictionary definition is not accurate.

[queen nova]

Haha that UD definition is hilarious. I tried to write jankness but it auto corrected to jam lines

[tame inlet]

Hey all, we're trying to play co-op but we are having some pretty big issues with the simplayers

has anyone experienced this / know what might cause it to work? we effectively cannot run a party

[umbral jungle]

reduce sim count

[tame inlet]

on both players end?

[umbral jungle]

its best

i dont think that value is synced

[tame inlet]

Okay, thank you!

[tame inlet]

we are trying this too. Thank you @umbral jungle for the awesome mod

[foggy sierra]

do you need port forward still?

[umbral jungle]

you can use steam

[foggy sierra]

how so

[late drift]

Oh, what it is?

The second player's SIMs are attacking non-existent mobs

[tame inlet]

We reduced each palyers sim player count to 84

and we also had one player recruit their entire party before inviting the other player to the party

these tricks resolved most issues!

[late drift]

Wouldn't 84 sim players be too few? I don't want to see an empty world

[tame inlet]

84 each

so it ends up being 168, just like single player

[late drift]

Hmmm... Makes sense, I'll give it a shot

Ty <3

[late drift]

That didn't solve the problem. @umbral jungle , maybe you have some advice?

[umbral jungle]

if host mobs arent spawning on client you have connection issues

[next canyon]

Will this be available on Lunaris?

[mystic glacier]

considering mizuki made both, i would assume so

[umbral jungle]

it's being worked on, complete rewrite of coop

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1472899082942152808/1515818007463465081/dJ4nX34dxi.mp4?ex=6a345787&is=6a330607&hm=27820a745ea05dd3f88e10170e593652cdbbb11eb238ea7c94dbb9268581ff8b&

[mystic glacier]

you're insanely dedicated mizuki

[next canyon]

Wow okay thank you!!

[nimble estuary]

Playing coop with a buddy and mobs from area's of a dungeon we're not even in keep aggroing us and chasing us down from who knows how far away, anybody else deal with this?

[thorn ginkgo]

Buddy and I had the same problem too LOL, but I'm gonna assume that it'll hopefully be gone once the raid update is out + the new version is written for lunaris

[magic kayak]

Is there an update to this with guilds and raids in mind?

[thorn ginkgo]

i would assume so

[magic kayak]

Gotcha, assume she's part of the playtest to get it ironed out for the update.

[mystic glacier]

She is rewriting it so id assume so

[magic kayak]

Can't wait for this. Got 2 friends that want to play if I can assure them a good coop experience too 🙂

[potent viper]

It works so far currently, the experience is really good but can be a little janky, my advice is don't lower the simplayer population, I had a pretty good experience with a friend at max server population.

[magic kayak]

Have a lot of desync issues currently. Theres many situations where enemies are attacking us that not everyone can see.

[potent viper]

I believe it runs off the hosts computer. At least that is my thought.

Who among your friends has the best pc?

[magic kayak]

Probably me, but we have both tried hosting with similar issues. Whoever is not the host always sees phantom npcs that won't move and no one else can see. However they will attack and kill the non-host player.

[potent viper]

Hmm weird.

[magic kayak]

Typically duplicates of nps so. Lots of times if there is 3 enemies the peer sees 6 and all 6 attack but only 3 can be seen by host.

[potent viper]

Yeah that is definitely a desync I think.

[magic kayak]

Yeah also if you are the guest often you cant see the Sim players in group so if I was trying to be the healer as the guest. I cant see life bars

[potent viper]

I would love to see if I could help you guys fix it, but I currently play with a few extra mods along with coop.

[potent viper]

Imagine 5 player coop.

To be honest I would love to do a full player party 😄

[magic kayak]

Thatd be really fun.

I also am hoping we can guild/raid together. Hopefully all controlling a party of our own

[potent viper]

Haha that would be fun, also being able to join the same guild as other players.

[magic kayak]

Yep thats the kinda functionality ill need to talk more people into it. They are just not into the solo aspect of it. I fully maxed out prior to guild release update. Now trying to come back for raids.

My memory as well as changes has things kinda hazey. Lol

[potent viper]

To be honest joining guild function may be a little difficult to impliment.

[magic kayak]

Yeah. Thats my fear also.

[potent viper]

Wish I knew how to make mods though I would make a vampire class mod xD

And make it compatible with the coop mod for reasons.

[magic kayak]

Take reaver and modify it a bit

[potent viper]

True

I would also probably add some blood themed spells to it.

Hopefully raids are really fun I can't wait to try them.

Especially with the coop mod.

[umbral jungle]

👀 i have plans for coop guilds

[mystic glacier]

yo!?

[magic kayak]

Will co-op work with the test build?

[magic kayak]

How do you plan to have raids work with co-op will each co-op player be able to bring their own groups of sims?

[umbral jungle]

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[umbral jungle]

the plan rn is:

1. instanced zones (per raid)
2. players can invite other players like normal grouping
3. raid leaders can assign permission so the other one can invite sims/players as well
4. no you cant bring 2 full raids into one zone

[magic kayak]

Yeah figured you'd stick to raid size limits. Mostly was thinking if 3 people coop each could bring roughly 1 group each.

[past crag]

wow

[umbral jungle]

pretty much

[zenith mortar]

does this mod work with the new update i wanted to get into this game when the raid update came out but only if i could play coop with a friend

[umbral jungle]

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[zenith mortar]

will it work on everything preraids with the new update? id imgaine it would take us a while to get to the point where we needed to raid

[umbral jungle]

it should? i dont know im already working on v3

[misty rivet]

O Great Mizuki, are you able to mod on Steamdeck, or naur?

[steady meteor]

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[past crag]

you are!!

I tested the co-op mod as it was being made between my SD and my PC 😎

[past narwhal]

Hey can someone explain to me how the coop works ? Like such as can a friend make his own guy and join into my game or do they need to use one of the sims in my game just looking for some info on how it all works positives and negatives thanks !

[magic kayak]

Mod is being rebuilt atm

[umbral jungle]

its drop-in play, you use your own characters

[past narwhal]

Thanks you !

[smoky schooner]

is this still up to date/usable? A friend and I are wanting to do some co-op

[mossy trout]

Up to raids, you can go into raids with a group of 5 without any issues. I theorize you can go into raids with up to 2 friends and each have your own party in order to do raid content.

I just played with friends up to raids and attempted raid content last night. The raid menus don't work for coop, but everyone is able to go into the raid zones together and call other simplayers to the raid zones as well.

[smoky schooner]

right on

[umbral jungle]

half of the bosses wont work correctly