COOP - Release

[digital vigil]

[latent solstice]

YEEEEES

Game's fully playable at that point

[umbral jungle]

stacks of stuff working now (the loot window doesn't support item stacks, so this is the way) @placid flint 👀

still need to fix that it doesn't register the ui

also i wont release a new version on ts until someone tells me this fixes sims

that also means no trading for all yall till i know it's fixed

[kind adder]

Waiting on friends! Will report in tomorrow at the latest

[digital vigil]

i can't trying to reproduce the bug right now, but asap i will

[latent solstice]

Also waiting on friends. Stanley Cup Finals has created a distraction amongst them.

@umbral jungle What do we do with the .mdb file?

Don't see that anywhere in existing files to replace.

[umbral jungle]

its to show lines when an error pops up makes it easier to debug

[latent solstice]

Where do we put it?

[umbral jungle]

next to the dll

[latent solstice]

Figured, just wanted to make sure I didn't fuck anything up.

[umbral jungle]

nah its not required but t helps me a bit

[latent solstice]

About to give it a run here in the next ten mins or so.

[latent solstice]

Okay, so... we couldn't get the sims to dupe anymore so far. This was very easy to have happen prior. Just invite and fight a bit and there they were.

However

Our game world time is no longer synced after going into the dungeon on noob isle.

After zoning out, it didn't zone us both out like it was doing before.

And when we were both out, my co-op partner couldnt' see me, but could see the sims following me.

We went back in the dungeon and time didn't sync, but we could pull each other in and out again.

Time still isn't synced, however.

Looks like synced time isn't supposed to be a thing anyway, we just both started our games at the same time last time and were damn near synced so we never noticed.

Either way

New bug was just the zoning/invisible issue.

Sims aren't duplicating thus far.

[latent solstice]

Is it a bug that paladin's taunt is complete ass or is that just a game mechanic?

[lofty panther]

New here is there anyone hostin a game so i can play with some people? new to thegame

[latent solstice]

My buddy cannot pull aggro from anything ever.

Almost like mechanically the game doesn't think he's there.

Taunt doesn't do anything, his damage doesn't either.

As soon as I hit something no matter how long he's been on it, I get snap aggro immediately.

[latent solstice]

There's more action around here earlier in the day.

[inner agate]

Experiencing the same thing - host seems to always keep aggro or maybe the Paladin taunt doesn't work

[umbral jungle]

i'll look but i've never had that issue, also aggro is damage based, taunt just adds hidden damage to the aggro list

it could be that adding some aggro might have gone a bit wonky as well, not sure

or that players add more aggro, to the zone owner i don't know

[umbral jungle]

yea i can't replicate the issue

i'll try with taunt

yeah it looks to be a bug with the taunt

this might be related to what i said before

or rather to the known bug

There is a small game bug where sometimes when a player attacks an enemy with a spell, they will not get aggroed.

until @placid flint fixes it i can't be 100% sure but taunts i assume are status effects? if not i gotta look into it more

[placid flint]

This is fixed on my end I believe

Taunts are not status effects they're instant action spells

They add flat aggro to the npc

So they operate under the "damage" case, look for spell.aggro

[umbral jungle]

then i'll have to look into it more cause im just calling damageme/magicdamageme on my side

if it's like part of spellvessel i know why

[placid flint]

What's actually happening in the bug have you been able to see the mechanic that's not working?

[umbral jungle]

i can check closer but it's just that taunt doesnt do anything

[placid flint]

I think you need the call manageaggro()

On the NPC class for the target

Spell vessel would typically call this but if you're not syncing spell vessel that may be the culprit

[umbral jungle]

iam

but if a spell adds aggro through spellvessel it won't do anything

cause im not handling that

i just send the damage over network basically

luckily i can easily handle it

should fix it

@placid flint is this a me or you issue?

[placid flint]

Me I think

It's treating pride like a heal over time

[umbral jungle]

this is very odd, unless you're not getting a data packet at all this shouldn't happen, like ever

and that also should never happen because it's a reliable packet, so it gets resent if you don't receive it

but just to make sure i added another check

[umbral jungle]

who doesn't love a duplicating items exploit

i'm just not gonna spawn it for whoever drops it...

safest thing to do

[placid flint]

What if they want it back

😉

[umbral jungle]

not my problem

[inner agate]

Yay! Much appreciated

[umbral jungle]

smol lil bug still, also i cant prevent looting at the exact same time, that's just not possible without server architecture

[umbral jungle]

first i complain and then i add it anyway.. and that's exactly what i did

[placid flint]

That's what I do too

[umbral jungle]

https://thunderstore.io/c/erenshor/p/mizuki/Erenshor_COOP/
** v1.0.6**

• Fixed taunts not working
• Fixed (hopefully) players sometimes not swapping visibility
• Fixed Sim duplication
• Added TRADING!
  • Pick up an item from the inventory or bank and drop it outside the UI
    • (Still need to add a confirmation window)
  • The items get deleted if you disconnect
  • They should appear again after a zone change, if not let me know

ah i forgot to add that i fixed the weird cant remove from group thing as well

completely forgot about it

[umbral jungle]

time/weather isn't synced period, i might add it with the next update though (with an option to disable it)

[umbral jungle]

actually there's still a duplication exploit, wonder how long it'll take people to find that one, but i'll put out another update today

[umbral jungle]

added

i was trying to get it to rain but it didn't work

[digital vigil]

you didn't do the rain dance

[digital vigil]

that's amazing! Nice work

if you add the drop confirmation window, could it be toggleable on/off?

[umbral jungle]

sure

[digital vigil]

nice

i'll test the new update today with my friend

[placid flint]

type /raining

Or /thunder

Orrrr /bluesky

[umbral jungle]

yeah but thunder/raining don't immediately take effect

and sometimes it just doesn't wanna at all

like here

[placid flint]

Yeah if the games trending hard towards sunny it sometimes overwrites

Type it a few times and you can usually overpower it

/thunder will try harder

None of your videos work for me for some reason

Still image even though the timeline bar moves

[umbral jungle]

oh shit

it might be cause i changed to h265

this one is with h264

still trying to iron out some issues, seems like i can't force rain off

[placid flint]

This one worked

[lofty panther]

loli still wana play with people lol !!!

[digital vigil]

great! I recommend just "Drop Confirmation" in the text

instead we have to enable the "disable"

[umbral jungle]

Bug: You cannot select other players.

[umbral jungle]

nicer confirmation box

[digital vigil]

yeah, that's cool

[versed jewel]

mizukiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

i updated mod

cant left click select friend

but i can left click npcs

[digital vigil]

she is working on this bug

[versed jewel]

ooooo okie okie

im excited to be able to do the coop trade

also , if a player drops an item on the floor from their bag, there is a blue light around it but the item is not visible

[umbral jungle]

👀

[versed jewel]

saw it just now boss, reading skills -1000000 atm for me

[umbral jungle]

why would the item be visible it never said that anywhere

[placid flint]

?

Select them how

[versed jewel]

was just curious, cause the light is still there

[umbral jungle]

my selection logic is broken

[placid flint]

Like left clicking on a player?

[versed jewel]

so maybe i thought u can pick up item from floor that some1 else dropped like in minecraft

[umbral jungle]

i wasn't doing if (GameData.MouseSlot.MyItem == GameData.PlayerInv.Empty) return true;

so it always returned false (dont run original function) when selecting a networked player

[umbral jungle]

nah nah it's like dark souls, you loot it, there's just no "E - Loot" thing cause iunno how to add that maybe @placid flint can let me know

[versed jewel]

i seee, gotcha , makes sense

[digital vigil]

perfection

[versed jewel]

so the otherplayer walks on top of it and presses e to pick up?

me dumdum so excuse asking simple questtions

[umbral jungle]

yes it's like looting anything

[versed jewel]

okay

[umbral jungle]

https://thunderstore.io/c/erenshor/p/mizuki/Erenshor_COOP/
** v1.0.7 **

• Fixed not being able to select other players
• Fixed a duplication exploit
• Added Weather Sync
• Added Confirmation Window for item dropping
• Added Toggles for:
  • Confirmation Window
  • Metrics
  • Weather Sync

[versed jewel]

O SHIT, THAT WAS FAST

im excited

[empty bloom]

Mizuki's the goat

[umbral jungle]

fast? i been sitting on this update for 3 hours

[empty bloom]

Hey, that's fast for us, the common folk ;P

[versed jewel]

dev > prod

[umbral jungle]

no more duplication exploit for yall!

(there is still one that i cant fix)

i mean i could but i would have to rewrite most of the drop system and im too lazy for that

but i think that's it for today unless something else big crops up that needs immediate attention

[empty bloom]

Take time to play something!

[umbral jungle]

i wish i could

[empty bloom]

T_T

[versed jewel]

thunda store was not having the update yet so i manually updated, TIME TO TRY

[digital vigil]

thank you @umbral jungle

[versed jewel]

ITS WORKING

[latent solstice]

Thank you! Your work/speed is amazing and adding a ton of fun to the game (don't want to play single player anymore 😆). You got a ko-fi or anything similar?

[umbral jungle]

#general-chat message

[latent solstice]

What the heck, why would any government come after you for that?

[umbral jungle]

tax evasion

[latent solstice]

Even if you report it as income?

In the USA I think an income stream has to be over a certain amount before it's expected to be reported. And I thought that wasn't really fair when it came to donations/gifts, but even just accepting donations of any kind = tax evasion? Fuck that

[umbral jungle]

yes if i report it as income

but i don't wanna deal with that

better safe than sorry

[latent solstice]

Haha alrighty, well thanks all the same.

[umbral jungle]

[versed jewel]

[umbral jungle]

i assume, because i don't hear any complaints, that everything is working so far

https://tenor.com/view/nice-gif-21458880

[digital vigil]

i couldn't test yet. Probably in a couple hours

[latent solstice]

Still working right now, we'll be able to try things out in a few hours.

[lofty panther]

hi would love to team up, i just got the mod

anyone wanna play !!!!

[umbral jungle]

i wish i could

[indigo nexus]

I have the mod installed, but am having trouble connecting with my friend. Any tips? Connection keeps failing, and we're not sure if the port we're using is correct

[digital vigil]

did you make the port forwarding?

[indigo nexus]

Honestly, not even sure how to do that 😅 I'm gonna look into that

[digital vigil]

hahah ok

basicaly the host needs to port forward the port they'll be using

if the host will use 1000, then foward it to the host pc's IP (this configuration is made in the modem/router)

and check if the game is allowed in windows firewall

[obtuse leaf]

Think of it this way: Way back when they designed internet connectivity there wasn't really any idea how it'd develop and, broadly speaking, each IP address originally referred to a single device more or less, so for the sake of an analogy that's like a building

So now imagine each office in the building is a port - 80 is pretty much always HTTP web traffic, FTP transfers are 21, etc. If information is actively coming and going for a game or whatnot it tends to have a port associated and used for that.

To further expand on the analogy - now most households have a dozen or more 'buildings' to each 'address' - but your ISP only gives you one single actual IP address. This is why you may notice you have a "real" IP, which can be used by people outside your house to connect to you, and a fake or internal one. That's what your router does, take one 'address' and use it to bridge the various devices on your network to the internet as a whole. Your router is basically acting as the coordinator for the single address given by your ISP, and lets you have multiple devices to that address all on the same connection

So that's where port forwarding comes in - if Erenshor is looking for incoming co-op connections on port 3200, for example, but your router doesn't know where to send port 3200 traffic, it won't go anywhere or will usually be blocked. You have to tell your router "3200 from the internet goes to this device on my network", and thus the term 'port forwarding'

Most routers have pretty intuitive settings for setting up port forwarding, and you can always google the model to find the specific steps

[umbral jungle]

if all else fails, use hamachi or any other free tunneling service

[umbral jungle]

https://thunderstore.io/c/erenshor/p/mizuki/Erenshor_COOP/
** v1.0.8 **

• Fixed loot sticking around if only a single item was put in and looted
• Fixed another duplication exploit
• Fixed players wanting loot (sim chat behaviour, more to do here)

i probably shoulda worded that differently oh well

too late now

[latent solstice]

You could have worded it "balls balls balls balls balls balls balls" and if it still does what it does, we'll all be happy 😄

[maiden basin]

Is there a way to make this mod to work when.the game finally realsses?

[umbral jungle]

i don't understand the question? the game is released

im pretty sure this doesn't even work with the demo anymore

[maiden basin]

I mean version 1 when it's out of beta

[umbral jungle]

why wouldn't it work then

im updating it as the game updates

[maiden basin]

I don't think just thinking

Ohh okay cool

[latent solstice]

This left early access already, I'm confused.

[placid flint]

No it didn't

[latent solstice]

Oh wait, duh

It was a demo then went into EA.

Dum dum brain conflated demo only > EA with EA > release.

[placid flint]

lol you scared me I went and checked the store to see if I accidentally released it

[latent solstice]

Haha my bad.

[indigo nexus]

I have tried setting up port forwarding, and my friend still can't connect to me. Is there a specific port number I should be using for port forwarding? The one's I've tried don't seem to work 🧐

[placid flint]

#1369125387107303474 message

mizuki has recommended this service to a few other folks

[digital vigil]

you can choose any port that's not being used by another program or service on your network. But like mizuki and brian, i recommend using a free vpn software. I suggest radmin or hamachi. The first one doesn’t require an account to use. The downside using a third party vpn is that you'll lose some performance (the ping will be higher), but in this case, it'll be negligible because the game doesn't require much bandwidth.

[indigo nexus]

I have Hamachi, and got my friend (seemingly) connected to me in Hamachi. I am unclear on how connect in-game at this point.

[umbral jungle]

pick a random port (1-65535) except 80 or something a safe bet is like 20k and above
then rightclick whoever is hosting in hamachi -> copy ipv4 paste it into the coop menu and use the same port as the host put in (the ip doesn't matter on the host)

ipv6 doesn't work im drunk sorry

[indigo nexus]

OMG Thank you all so much, we just connected!

[digital vigil]

also, you can temporary disable your windows firewall just to make a connection test with your friend. If it works, reactivate it and try again.

if doesn't work after reactivating the firewall, you'll need to allow erenshor in it (or just the choosen port)

[digital vigil]

nice, disconsider what i said

but might be useful for other people

[lofty panther]

Im always looking to join u havea lv 9 guy

[maiden basin]

Is it possible to make a server browser so you could see like a lobby of people playing and be able to join them if you'd want

[umbral jungle]

nope

unless you want to pay for it

[maiden basin]

Please 🙏🥺

[umbral jungle]

well i aint payin for it, so no

[umbral jungle]

unless @placid flint allows me to use steam lobbies

[umbral jungle]

but i also don't wanna rewrite the entire networking stuff just to use the steam api

[umbral jungle]

how are we looking with bugs?

[placid flint]

Pretty major to NPC.combat and PlayerCombat.DoAuto coming @umbral jungle

Mostly same behavior just exploded into more organized methods to make room for a new mechanic

I don't think it'll mess you up but just in case

[umbral jungle]

[sage nymph]

@umbral jungle just started using the mod with a friend and managed to get it working through Hamachi. but when I (Druid) go to heal the sim players it heals them and then their health drops back down to what it was before healing. (not host btw. Also great mod loving it.)

[umbral jungle]

it might have broken with the recent update

there should be a warning in the console if healing isnt synced

[sage nymph]

ok when we play next ill keep and eye on the console thanks for the quick response.

[umbral jungle]

doesn't look like there is, i'll look into it

[umbral jungle]

do you mean this where the health kinda snaps back a little bit?

or is it not healing at all

reproduced

[umbral jungle]

i don't know what i did but it fixed itself

[mental bridge]

I'm kind of lost how i find the port to play on lan, i guess it should be obvious but idk what im missing

[umbral jungle]

you can use whatever port

[mental bridge]

just make one up?

[umbral jungle]

use anything between 1 and 65535

[wraith coyote]

Great work Mizuki!!

[umbral jungle]

https://thunderstore.io/c/erenshor/p/mizuki/Erenshor_COOP/
** v1.0.9**

• Fixed players not being affected by status effects
• Fixed sims ignoring when players were being attacked while in group
• Fixed players not being able to heal sims
• Added being able to target players(and sims) target by using the "Assist MA" button
• Added nameplate flashing

[pulsar bloom]

do you have to use IPv4 for this?

(is that a dumb question)

[digital vigil]

yes

[forest niche]

Does the co-op mod work on steam deck?

[umbral jungle]

if you manage to get mods running on it there shouldn't be a problem afaik

[forest niche]

Cool, gonna try this out tomorrow. Looking to play with the wife!

[umbral jungle]

** v1.5.0 - DEBUG TEST BUILD - UNTESTED **

• Added Server Settings sync
• Added mod check
• Added group chat
• Added default port
• Fixed host not redirecting packets to only players that should receive them
• Fixed error when going back to the menu regarding weather sync
• Changed versioning numbers to correctly use semver

[digital vigil]

nice, thank you!

i'll try to test today

[umbral jungle]

[umbral jungle]

** v1.5.0 - DEBUG TEST BUILD - UNTESTED**

• Added treasure guardian sync
• Added Server Settings sync
• Added mod check
• Added group chat
• Added default port
• Added sound when receiving whispers from players
• Fixed /r working when receiving whispers from players
• Fixed host not redirecting packets to only players that should receive them
• Fixed error when going back to the menu regarding weather sync
• Changed versioning numbers to correctly use semver

pretty much same as before but with some additional things

i wont be able to test treasure chests, so it would be nice to get feedback for that

unless @placid flint gives me a command to spawn them? 👀

[steady meteor]

Perhaps you could use the C# console of UnityExplorer to test the treasure spawns?

Calling GameData.GM.GetComponent<TreasureHunting>().SetTreasureLoc() when you're in the scene should probably do the trick if you only care about spawning.

If you also want / need to sync the scene selection (i.e., map reading) before that, GameData.GM.GetComponent<TreasureHunting>().SetTreasureZone() should work.

Can't check right now though since I'm not at my main PC.

[umbral jungle]

yeah but i can't leave stowaway and i don't think stowaway has spawns

[steady meteor]

Ah, good point. Won't work with the demo then.

[umbral jungle]

demo crashes when i leave stowaway even with the full versions files sadly and i haven't bothered to check why yet

[placid flint]

Do you want a closed beta key?

[umbral jungle]

is it for a different appid?

[placid flint]

Yep

[umbral jungle]

that would be awesome

[placid flint]

Will send one over when I get to the pc this morning

[umbral jungle]

[obtuse anchor]

i think the new patch broke summons for client, host cant see summon and summon just stands in place for client.

[umbral jungle]

did you try this #1369125387107303474 message version?

i haven't tested summons in a while, i'll do when i get around to testing again

[umbral jungle]

i might have broke them in the last thunderstore release

[obtuse anchor]

i was on the newest thunderstore version i think 1.0.9

[digital vigil]

did anyone test v1.5.0? I couldn't test yet

[umbral jungle]

found the issue, took a bit

there's a funny bug with them still though

[umbral jungle]

[umbral jungle]

https://thunderstore.io/c/erenshor/p/mizuki/Erenshor_COOP/

It's a big one this time!

** v1.5.0**

• Added treasure guardian sync
  • Stats are not synced, but should not cause issues
• Added Server Settings sync
• Added mod check
• Added group chat
• Added default port
• Added sound when receiving whispers from players
• Removed healing text from enemies
• Fixed adds being spawned twice for clients
• Fixed targeting causing battle music to play at wrong times
• Fixed summons not working
• Fixed summons not showing spell casts
• Fixed summons not being a valid target
• Fixed enemies not receiving spell effects
• Fixed /r working when receiving whispers from players
• Fixed host not redirecting packets only to players that should receive them
• Fixed error when going back to the menu regarding weather sync
• Changed text color in battle log to be easier to read
• Changed versioning numbers to correctly use semver

[digital vigil]

amazing!!!

[forest niche]

While I had some trouble hosting via steam deck, I was able to join my wife's game just fine, it was almost instantaneous!

So I suppose it's confirmed steam deck can do co-op, as long as the host is playing on PC

[umbral jungle]

[past crag]

thinking out loud...
if a friend finally buys Erenshor and wants to play co-op with me
yet I don't want to 'give up' my progress
should be as simple as making a copy of my current savegame folder and then deleting it
and swapping that folder with the newer co-op saves folder whenever I want to go from co-op to OG single player, yes? =)

[placid flint]

Yes with a caveat

Steamcloud will always overwrite what's saved with your last play session so you want to swap folders AFTER the game is launched and before character select screen (so always swap them whole on the login screen)

[past crag]

ah ha! forgot about SteamCloud

[placid flint]

And only ESSaveData

Not the backups

[past crag]

good to know, thank you!

[umbral jungle]

i was thinking of making separate saves for coop

especially if i add full sim sync it might be necessary to not overwrite your own sims

[past crag]

ah, yes

(when I was running the Morrowind co-op server with the same friend, I would just keep 2 installs of the game: the co-op server's config pointed to the copied folder of the game -- that way I could run mods in my OG game that we didn't need to worry about both having for co-op -- and the co-op program allowed Morrowind in VR holy cow)

[umbral jungle]

don't give me ideas or my next mod is gonna be vr

[past crag]

VR Erenshor... 😍
well if you feel crazy, and need testing help, I'm at your service =)

[umbral jungle]

if only developing for vr wasn't such a pain.. taking on and off the headset gets annoying real quick

you can tell i have experience

i've made a VR escape room in UE before and it was such a pain

[past crag]

Oh yes!
In the aforementioned Anyland I sometimes helped Philpp test things by request and he'd make live changes in the test Area, also taking off his headset each time. Slow going :-/

I used to make annual haunted trails & houses in Anyland! But all that was 100% done while in VR so it was a joy to build reality around me =)

[placid flint]

The changes to scripts for @umbral jungle
-Character.MagicDamageMe() and SpellVessel.ResolveSpell() case: damage have small changes to make allowances for spells that do 0 damage but need to still add an effect (0 previously just meant it got resisted)
-NPC.CheckTaunt() has a slight change for SimPlayer taunt target selection

[umbral jungle]

@placid flint can you show me what you added/changed? im currently doing this

tbf i don't remember why i added that damage check.. maybe to prevent sims running up when you miss

[placid flint]

this is in spell vessel

in check taunt
the || was added to the last part of the conditional, he will only spam taunt on current target if there are no other nearby targets (previously he'd always just spam on his target)

removed the check for stunned==false here

thats about it

[umbral jungle]

shouldn't they also taunt rooted ones?

or is rooting not considered CC by the sims?

[placid flint]

sims dont use it atm

they should probably

for player's sake

[umbral jungle]

haha

[umbral jungle]

v1.5.1 - UNTESTED DEBUG BUILD

• Fixed non-damaging spells not adding aggro
• Fixed (hopefully) MP not properly being displayed when player joins
• Fixed treasure guards not syncing their stats

i'll test it tomorrow after i got some sleep

[placid flint]

You patched for my patch which isn't even live yet are you from the future?

[umbral jungle]

i just removed the damage check haha

[umbral jungle]

https://thunderstore.io/c/erenshor/p/mizuki/Erenshor_COOP/
v1.5.1

• Fixed non-damaging spells not adding aggro
• Fixed MP not properly being displayed when player joins
• Fixed treasure guards not syncing their stats

looks like it didn't get blocked this time

[past crag]

yay one of my close friends intends to buy Erenshor in the next week to support Brian, and he wants to try this mod with me 😎

not really related: is this 2 player co-op or more than 2? (doubt I'd have more than us at once either way)

[umbral jungle]

up to how ever many you want

or rather up to how ever many the hosts connection can handle

[past crag]

oh holy cow

you're amazing

[glass pelican]

It's not possible to have two groups active at once though right? Only the host is able to invite people to the party?

[past crag]

oh good question (I have a 2nd friend interested in buying Erenshor W00T and trying co-op now with 3 us total)

[umbral jungle]

sure can, but only the host can invite sims

[glass pelican]

oh wow, is there any chance in the future others will be able to invite sims or is that just not feasible with syncing issues?

[umbral jungle]

whenever i get to full sim sync but it's a save nightmare

[maiden basin]

My dream is make this game a full MMORPG with real players

[umbral jungle]

cooking something 👀

[past crag]

ooooooooooh

full SimPlayers sync'ing?

[umbral jungle]

yes but it's gonna be a while, it's not very cooperative at the moment

also fun

[umbral jungle]

still a bit missing but its getting there

it def increases the amount of sims even though they are dupes technically it's still fun to see even more running around

[past crag]

amazing that you can do this, regardless! 😍

[umbral jungle]

was

i might lift that restriction

but it's a lot more complicated to handle someone elses sims

[past crag]

ohh

[placid flint]

what is that UI layout

[umbral jungle]

haha it's cause i gotta play in like 2k or whatever to get both game windows on the screen instead of 4k

so the ui keeps shifting around

[umbral jungle]

is how i dev for coop

[burnt spear]

So crazy to see the progress coop has made so far

You folks made it sound like it was nearly impossible to achieve in the beginning haha

[placid flint]

i thought it was

i am not associated with this mod im just watching in awe

[burnt spear]

😂 Can't believe my eyes but I'm really glad to see it

[umbral jungle]

but wouldn't it be fun to play with your kids? 👀

[placid flint]

no theyre idiots at gaming still

[umbral jungle]

[burnt spear]

When that game sense comes in it's over!!!

Coop to the moon haha

[umbral jungle]

don't wait too long or they're gonna be telling YOU how to play your game

[sullen fjord]

It said i was able to connect and host but my buddy keeps getting a connection failed message. not sure if im out of my element here

[umbral jungle]

use any tunneling service

[umbral jungle]

got grouping working

wont be able to change that the sims follow whoever's sim it is

unless @placid flint adds something that lets me change the follow target with grouped sims

[placid flint]

what do you need, just the follow target made public?

i think its hard coded to player atm

[umbral jungle]

i think so

[placid flint]

i can do that, bug me til i do that

i cant dive in right this second though

[umbral jungle]

im bugging you right now

[placid flint]

https://tenor.com/view/sorry-what-the-office-excuse-me-say-again-gif-24295739

[wheat wagon]

ngl i'm absolutely delighted this mod exists

[umbral jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-pout-pout-anime-pouting-my-dress-up-darling-gif-7117836254488094139

[umbral jungle]

wondering if i should drop litenetlib completely in favor of steam, it's actually kinda a pain to have to go from steam to litenet stuff and steam still supports direct connections

[umbral jungle]

got the first packet to send

[umbral jungle]

it's gonna be a long term change

connecting with steam invites currently

[steady meteor]

Very cool! Really looking forward to trying out the mod at some point.

[past crag]

😍

[quasi canyon]

"When in-game, use the UI that opens when pressing escape or alternatively:

host using /host <port>
connect using /connect <ip> <port>
disconnect using /disconnect
"
How would I go about finding out this information? Me and my bro just got Erenshor and are trying to play together?

[umbral jungle]

press escape in game to open the menu, the ui should be on the side, whoever hosts needs to allow erenshor in windows firewall and open the port, then press host, they can go to some website like https://www.whatismyip.com/ to get the ip to send to whoever needs to connect (ipv4) put the ip in as client, have the same port, press connect

looking for like two people to test steam connection @sly basalt @past crag @glass pelican @digital vigil @placid flint 👀 (im kidding brian) iunno just tagging people who might be interested

[past crag]

lemme backup my save folder and I'm available if you want me

btw do other mods (just QoL interfere with syncing?)

[umbral jungle]

shouldn't

[past crag]

cool beans

[umbral jungle]

892363176 add me on steam and i'll send you a link

[past crag]

cool

got it, copying

[quasi canyon]

@umbral jungle Thank you!!

[umbral jungle]

[umbral jungle]

test successssssssfull thanks @past crag ❤️

[past crag]

you're welcome! happy to help!

3-person co-op even 😎

[digital vigil]

nice that worked. I just saw the message

[umbral jungle]

wondering... @placid flint do you have stats on your steamworks for the networking?

[umbral jungle]

i also think switching to steam reduced the packet overhead by a LOT im seeing >50% less bandwidth usage

for anyone actually curious:

[forest niche]

Just played for a couple hours with my wife! It was a pretty seamless experience! I don't think I noticed anything you probably don't know about, but just in case:

Simplayers and sim chat aren't synced. However, simplayers in group are synced

Health levels of simplayers in group not synced

Can't share items with each other

Honestly besides those things, I didn't notice any issues, it just works. It feels official, even. Thank you for your hard work!

[umbral jungle]

you can share items

just drop them out of your inventory

[umbral jungle]

• Simplayers and sim chat aren't synced.
  don't think im planning to do that, the chat i mean
• Health levels of simplayers in group not synced
  this is new to me

since the next update has full sim sync it'll automatically be fixed with that

[forest niche]

Damn, I didn't even know I could drop items. Unless you mean like how I would share with a simplayer, cause I was trying that and it didn't work

[umbral jungle]

nah you literally just drop it out of your inventory, not like with simplayers

more like dark souls style

[past crag]

whoa I didn't know that either, cool! (in WoW and some other online games dragging something out of your inventory deletes it, so I never tried)

[umbral jungle]

@forest niche @past crag here's an old video
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1369125387107303474/1380181908926894130/x6LIDYDrDh.mp4?ex=68629611&is=68614491&hm=7cc7629285fb13fd0cdf55b3a000b6eafabe699e4d471eddf8ccd17fa4208afc&

including bugs

[past crag]

oh that's perfect, sweet!

(and even better as Wolf Meat to turn into the dude in Port Azure for a little XP)

[umbral jungle]

read the https://github.com/MizukiBelhi/ErenshorCoop/blob/main/README.md for more info haha

[past crag]

very nice

[forest niche]

Awesome, thank you!

[umbral jungle]

would also be cool to know if everything is fine on deck, i don't have one

[forest niche]

I haven't been able to successfully host, but joining has been no issue.

I did notice that backing out to the main menu before logging out of co-op will bug the mod out and make you unable to disconnect unless you restart the game

But idk if that's deck specific

[umbral jungle]

hmm well both those issues will be fixed with the steam update

[wraith coyote]

so for now I assume its best to share sim data to be in sync? Burgee Media\Erenshor\ESSaveData

host shares it ofc

so for this sim(Astra) he was 35 for me and i think 3 for the host, during the dungeon run he just afkd and never wanded, never cast anything so we left and booted him out and replaced the arcanist with a duelist who actually helped. Exchanged words and had a fun time just like in real life.

[umbral jungle]

you could if you wanted to, im not touching sim behaviours at all so im pretty sure that's a game issue, but one can never be sure, but most issues with sims will be fixed in the next update

also wand effects aren't synced

their damage should be though

[vernal wigeon]

is it normal for sim player levels to not be synced? I'm trying it with a friend for the first time and I see the sims she (the host) invited as level 30 when they're level 4 for her

[umbral jungle]

yes

[vernal wigeon]

👍🏻 It looks like it causes some healthbar weirdness too for sim players, so I'm guessing playing druid as not host is not recommended for now 😄

[umbral jungle]

ah yeah that might cause trouble, i haven't thought about that.. since it's using the same sim they have the same stats on clients

it'll be gone in the next update

[vernal wigeon]

Oh it'll be fixed you mean? 😮 That's awesome, my friend was tanking and I was healing for 'em and I noticed it immediatey lol

[umbral jungle]

#1369125387107303474 message

[vernal wigeon]

Was like.. May need to play arcanist until Mizuki saves us 😄

Thank you a ton btw, friendo bought Erenshor finally to play with me so I owe you 😛

[umbral jungle]

can't wait to see 2 scrubby in a single group

or people running around with 3

[vernal wigeon]

Looking forward to it ^^ Thank you for the mod, and for always answering questions

[glass pelican]

So how do quests work with the mod? Can each player complete their own quests or is it like when the host completes the quest no one can do it anymore? Also when you join a game with somebody do dev commands work? or can only the host use them

[umbral jungle]

the idea is that everything works as if you're playing the game by yourself

except there's more people

well "real" people

and a shit ton of more sims with the next update

[glass pelican]

Gotcha, this might seem like a strange request but do you think it would be possible to add a toggle option for dev commands to turn it off/on? I'm really interested in the idea of keeping a game session running 24/7 where people can come and go as they please and I feel it would defeat the point a bit if people just cheated stuff etc. If not it's fine too but just thought I'd ask

[umbral jungle]

but what would be the point? they can just disconnect, cheat, and connect again

[glass pelican]

well there's other things they could do to troll besides spawn items, like making the time speed faster/weather changes/increasing their speed etc

an honor system type deal would still work so I see what you mean

[umbral jungle]

weather and mobs are all controlled by the zone owner though

[glass pelican]

oh so what would happen if someone else did /thunder for example, would it just do nothing then

or /time50

[umbral jungle]

thunder would just reset

weather is sent every 5 seconds

that includes hours/minutes

[glass pelican]

gotcha, disregard then

[umbral jungle]

i can add a vote kick system if it gets bad, but there's nothing that'll prevent them modifying the mod and removing it

well i can make a c/++ dll and use that to do command stuff, that's not so easily editable

but honestly it's not really the job of a coop mod to prevent that sort of stuff

[digital vigil]

i believe this mod is supposed to be mainly used between friends. I don't thing all this is necessary. Its not a public server

[umbral jungle]

it kinda is now with public steam lobbies

the least i can do is add kick/ban for hosts and maybe let you add moderators

[digital vigil]

ohhh i forgot about that

[umbral jungle]

added two new settings, all of the settings are gonna be editable in the new ui

mods can be added from a "current players" list

oh

pff

should probably name it right too

and its not general either

jfc im smoking

i better go to bed

[umbral jungle]

still have so much ui to do

[wraith coyote]

thats cool

[umbral jungle]

my current estimation is friday-saturday, i doubt im getting this done mid week

[mighty snow]

me and a friend trying to give this coop a try. we both have it installed and seemingly working but we cant figure out how to connect. im hosting using the port that was already there, hes connecting using my IP. no go. I know very little about networking. pls help >P

[wraith coyote]

gotta port foward or use hamachi

[mighty snow]

thanks, ill play with it some more

[glass pelican]

a new update is being worked on to integrate steam invites so you can bypass the need for using a tunnel/port forwarding. If you can't get it working you can always wait for the new update to be released

[mighty snow]

got it working in the meantime! thanks!!

[icy heart]

Lol a coop mod for a game that made for people who can't play multi-player reliably. As much as I love this mod being a thing, I dont have a single other person who'd play it with me lol.

[sly basalt]

I'm glad it's here and super respect the hard work @umbral jungle puts into this. But I love this game for specifically being an offline single player mmorpg. Everyone that asks about coop just makes me think every single one of them either can't read or just choose to not read the description of the game.

[placid flint]

That's always going to be my focus in development but I think someone else making the game accessible to others who have other criteria for what they play is a gift

[sly basalt]

I've saved in a text file a response for the Steam forum. Those people drive me crazy.

[digital vigil]

I don't know other people's reasons, but I love Erenhsor because it's an "mmorpg" I can play without being afraid the "servers" will be shutdown someday, I don't need an internet connection, and don't need other real people to complete the content (but still need a group to complete it, which is cool and accurate with real mmos).

for me the possibility to play coop with friends and family (not randoms) in a mmo traditional way (not split screen), just adds to the game. And if we want to continue playing without the friends, we can.

It doesn't need to balance the game for coop, and I'm happy this being a mod and not a vanilla feature. Mizuki is really good and the mod is very polished.

i saw people on steam saying "if you want coop go play a real mmo". But as i said, there are the "issues" (necessity of the internet, the server going down someday, depending on other people, etc).

There is a huge difference between playing massively in third party servers and a single player game with a LAN coop option.

anyway, I'm happy about how the game currently is, and that this mod exists

[umbral jungle]

i only made the mod because 1. i wanted to play with my hubby 2. people requested it 3. it gives brian more money

if ppl want to play with randos, thats on them

its unsafe, there is literally 0 checks in place, clients are trusted 100% so im not responsible for whatever happens to your saves/game/pc if you open a public lobby

[umbral jungle]

however i did add sanity checks to strings, so those wont crash your game at least

[icy heart]

My cyber security brain tingled from that. Lol

[umbral jungle]

it's a coop mod and there's no server architecture

[umbral jungle]

it's also not really possible in most cases to only send inputs like you'd do normally in something like this, it would have to be natively integrated into the game at that point

[icy heart]

I get it. I just have a strong imagination lol.

[umbral jungle]

i'd like to hear those

[icy heart]

Well in the very early days of Project Zomboid MP, before discord was really a thing. PZ didn't have white listing and stuff yet, or something... I dont actually remember what the issue was. But often servers would get bad guys just looking for servers to DOS. So games were frequently interrupted.

If you're running a public lobby, who knows who you'll pick up. Discord is full of shady characters bopping around communities.

[umbral jungle]

i'm not sure if this is really a concern here because it's running over steam, i say im not sure because i don't know if steam on a client side HSteamNetConnection exposes ips

but i can't help it if people modify the mod to do malicious stuff

[icy heart]

It's rarely a real concern lol.

With video games anyway

[wraith coyote]

now that is when you press disconnect

[placid flint]

@umbral jungle what changes do you need to know about when i change code. Any specific classes that are sensitive?

[umbral jungle]

healing case in resolvespell is the thing that will 100% break if you change anything

everything else i can kinda infer from patch notes or notice if someone tells me, any changes to how groups are done would break things too

[placid flint]

K, got a few changes coming to simplayermanager (just dialog stuff) one data structure added to their save data class, and then just minor changes to dialog and stuff

This patch will be on the beta branch first

[umbral jungle]

i'd love something where i can turn their group and say chat off, so my players stop talking

[placid flint]

Like even the callouts?

[umbral jungle]

yeah, cause players aren't sims but they still do it

if i did it i would have to copy all the code where they talk and change it a little

it's not something that's super important because i know the callouts and stuff are all over the place

[burnt blaze]

do u have to do port forwarding for hte mod to work im trying with a friend and it keeps saying connection failed

im looking at past messages and seeing maybe u have to use hamachii or something cuz i opened the port and its still not working

[glass pelican]

yes or something like hamachi, a new update is being worked on which won't need that

[burnt blaze]

oh so port forwarding does work i have spectrum and i opened hte port and it still for some reason says connection failed

[glass pelican]

unfortunately i cant help you there, maybe someone more knowledgeable can help you troubleshoot. If you cant get it working though the update isn't too far away if you want to wait

[umbral jungle]

allow in windows firewall

keep in mind only the host has to open the port and its udp

[burnt blaze]

I had it on tcp

not udp

its fixed

ty

[nova bobcat]

Can you play on lan?

[sly basalt]

I think so. @umbral jungle would have to say for sure. The current version works by ip. So you could try using the lan ip for the host computer. But I could be very wrong.

[umbral jungle]

yes

[fallow raft]

While I'm not currently using it (waiting patiently for the Steam API update, if I understand that correctly) I just wanted to say bless you Mizuki, for putting the work you have into this

I saw you mention doing this to play with your hubby; I'd love to play with my partner once the mod's updated, and I can afford a copy for her

Mods like yours add tremendous value to already valuable games and I just wanted to pass along the well wishes and thanks!

[umbral jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-funny-gif-3389011645026669422

[zenith axle]

It being UDP should probably be listed in the install instructions since 99% of port forwards / nat rules are TCP.

[umbral jungle]

you are right and i completely forgot when i wrote those

itll say in the ui next update

[umbral jungle]

i have the need of 1-2 testers

https://tenor.com/view/pigeon-fancy-rich-payday-bird-gif-23400655

[sly basalt]

I'm game of course.

[umbral jungle]

@past crag ?

[zenith axle]

what do you need

[past crag]

I'm at work! =( Otherwise I totally would help
(can be available in about 4 hours by the time I get home and make dinner... if you'll still need me by then)

[umbral jungle]

need someone that can endure pain for like an hour

[zenith axle]

I have time now if you still need testers

[digital vigil]

if you still need i'm available now @umbral jungle

[quasi canyon]

thanks so much for this mod, can't wait for the steam integration update!

[umbral jungle]

#modding-chat message

[umbral jungle]

i needed to work on something else for a bit, so i made weather alot more accurately synced

[crisp vessel]

is seamless up now? or a little more to go?

[sly basalt]

Not yet.

Be patient.

[crisp vessel]

im tryin lol, i got 3 more days of work then my weekend so hoping itll be rdy by then but if not either way, itll be done when its done im just excited. was a huge fan of crosscode and now its kinda like that but with friends + sims

[umbral jungle]

it wont be done by then

im not even done with ui yet

and i still have to do the sim stuff

i just only got it back to a playable state but if i release it now i'll only get complaints about stuff not working that i already know is not working

[sly basalt]

Take your time.

[iron vortex]

@umbral jungle hey miz... looks like issues with sims not attacking / healing, etc.. again... you think it's due to new update w/ the game? Sorry to pester; just figured I'd let you know! Thanks for all you do!

[placid flint]

Today's update affected NPC.DoAttackSpell() pretty much only

For mizuki

[umbral jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/renge-shrug-non-non-biyori-idk-duck-face-gif-9724581

not like im in a state to fix anything

[iron vortex]

lol i was just seeing if it was a known issue or not... coop is super fun in this with my buddy, but we were running into that again where our arcanist wouldnt act

again, appreciate you makin the mod! super fun 🙂 (oldschool EQ player)

[placid flint]

Uh ohhh holiday celebrations caught up?

[umbral jungle]

nah, no 4th here. just codebase not the old one anymore with the steam stuff and new sim syncing, i couldn't fix the old stuff if i wanted to

[placid flint]

Ohh gotcha

What country are you from?

[umbral jungle]

germany

mid lobby creation ui

[placid flint]

I thought you were west coast USA for some reason and I don't know why I though that

[umbral jungle]

probably cause i sleep whenever i want

im up at weird times

my hubby is from cali tho

[iron vortex]

oooh another west-coaster ;p

@placid flint great game btw boss

[umbral jungle]

maybe you saw my pc clock as well

[placid flint]

I think it was you saying when you slept tbh that makes sense

[umbral jungle]

iam in requirement of someone for testing

[placid flint]

Miz im currently fixing the duplicate status effects bug, moved a few checks from Chararcter into Stats where they should have been all along

CheckForSEbyname, CheckStatus etc looking for dupe effects

[umbral jungle]

please add the heal function

[placid flint]

i will willllll i'm trying to fix bugs first

i have a busy week next week and am trying to get the game stable enough to be away for a week and not stress

[umbral jungle]

here is most of what im hooking into currently

[placid flint]

ok, i changed addstatuseffect and removestatuseffect to use statuseffects.length-1 in their loops instead just the flat 14

that shouldn't hurt you though

[umbral jungle]

@placid flint just tryina help, not sure if you've seen these:
(3rd = character.update)

[placid flint]

nope, didnt do those ones thanks

[umbral jungle]

and

[placid flint]

gonna have to loop back, just got the build ready to go

[umbral jungle]

you might also wanna save the length of it if you're gonna change it in the future just so nothing breaks

[placid flint]

yeah right now im just initializing it to empty slots to make sure there's no out of bounds stuff

theres a lot i wish id done better lol

first year of erenshor dev was just a hobby goof around project that i figured nobody woudl ever play so i laid some bad groundwork

[umbral jungle]

it's probably gonna be tough eventually to get saves to not break, but if i was in your shoes i'd add some kinda of version thing now so you can detect that later if you're gonna do a big change

[placid flint]

where do you see the issues coming from? if you have something specific in mind?

[umbral jungle]

idk it just makes it future proof, what if you randomly decide you want to change itemids from string to int or something

[placid flint]

ah gotcha

yeah it wouldnt hurt

i have nightmares of pushing a patch and waking up to 100 "my save is gone!" messages

[umbral jungle]

server wipes happen

it's ea, people should know what to expect, shit can break at any time

once its out of ea though i'd recommend letting people test your stuff for longer than a day before pushing it onto live

[placid flint]

A solid recommendation 😉

[chilly nova]

Thank you both for your hard work!!

[forest niche]

Had another great round of co-op with the wife! Incredible work, and thank you!

[umbral jungle]

getting closer to release

[umbral jungle]

nice!! glad that old version is still working fine-ish

[umbral jungle]

https://thunderstore.io/c/erenshor/p/mizuki/Erenshor_COOP/
v1.5.2

• Fixed an error with useable AE items

^ There is a bug where resonance doesn't work for healing spells.

Hopefully this works, had to jump through some hoops to get the old files to compile

[digital vigil]

unfortunately i won't be able to test with friends anytime soon

[crisp vessel]

Is this the good version? To skip tunneling?

[umbral jungle]

no

[umbral jungle]

the patch notes would be a lot lot bigger

[crisp vessel]

Oooh gotcha

[umbral jungle]

doesn't require friends to test, this would happen even if you're not connected

[wraith coyote]

all versions are the good version

[crisp vessel]

Well Mizuki knows what i was referring too, but i do agree all versions are good

[umbral jungle]

what i have written down so far

[past crag]

ooh! released!

can you finally relax now? =)

you deserve it

[umbral jungle]

nop

no release

[past crag]

ahhhhh

[umbral jungle]

PSA: coop is currently broken, yer gonna have to wait until i release 1.6

which is probably gonna be tomorrow

[crisp vessel]

so tomorrow is the day? O_O

[umbral jungle]

today is the day

[crisp vessel]

wait really?!

[umbral jungle]

probably in like an hour or so, just finishing up some small stuff

fuck it

https://thunderstore.io/c/erenshor/p/mizuki/Erenshor_COOP/
** v2.0.0 **

• Added New UI!
  • Can be found in the escape menu
• Added Steam Lobby Support!
  • Lobbies have a maximum player count of 100
  • Supports Friend invites
  • Supports starting the game and auto joining through an invite
• Added Full Sim Sync!
  • You are now able to invite sims even if you're not the host
  • Does not work across zones unfortunately (yet)
  • Sims from other players are automatically kicked from the group when zoning
• Weather/Time sync is now slightly more accurate
• Removed Connect/Disconnect chat commands
• Added Kick/Ban commands
  • Can only be used in lobbies
• Added the ability to add moderators
  • Can only be used in lobbies
  • Enables them to kick/ban other players
• Fixed healing not resonating
• Fixed healing affecting charmed npcs not being synced
• Wand bolts are now visible for all players (i hope)
• Fixed damage sync being broken due to game update
• Players are no longer allowed to swap/delete/upgrade gear on sims from others
• Summons of players and sims will get sent to connecting players now

Please report any bugs immediately.

good luck, it's probably still broken in places

[torpid pawn]

I have yet to try this, but i just wanted to say that this is so cool and I'm excited to try it out with my wife soon 🙂

[glass pelican]

thanks for all your hardwork, youre a gem in this community

[crisp vessel]

we about to test it here soon once i figure out how to add the file

[sly basalt]

Global Chat really needs it's own tab now more than ever.

Or a chat tab for coop players.

[glass pelican]

your sim players are mountain goats

[sly basalt]

Hah what are they doing?

I do have the jump mod.

[glass pelican]

oh that would explain it🤣

ive never seen that before

[sly basalt]

It's not turned up that high.

It's set at 2.0, 1.6 is the default.

Weird

[glass pelican]

man this it too cool, i cant wait till more people get the update

any idea how long it takes ts to update?

i had to download it manually

[sly basalt]

Thunderstore may take a bit.

1.52 is what r2modman gives me.

I do it manually anyway. I've got r2modman for testing and for making the mod guide.

Oddly enough I got the updated version from the Thunderstore website.

Maybe the mod manager client has a different timer.

Got some lag when I ported to Azure.

I can't invite you.

Wait there you are.

[glass pelican]

i accepted

there was a delay

[sly basalt]

Still very cool.

I've got torrents going I think so it's messing up my speed I'm sure.

[umbral jungle]

you got too many mods turk

[sly basalt]

Yeah that too.

I'll have to make a mod folder with minimal mods.

[burnt spear]

Make a mod that makes the mods function better!

Mod the mods!

(Performance wise)

[glass pelican]

can you see the items i dropped

[sly basalt]

There is a pillar of light. I can loot it. But it shows nothing and nothing is put into my inventory.

[umbral jungle]

please stop breaking my shit

[glass pelican]

can you drop an item

[sly basalt]

I killed the Beetle to get loot.

[glass pelican]

the bettle didnt die on my screen i just got xp

[sly basalt]

Nothing was put into my inventory.

I can't open the bank.

Yeah I need to get rid of a bunch of mods.

[umbral jungle]

anything that changes stats on mobs or loot will probably break things

[glass pelican]

yeah i attack them and i kill them but they dont fight back or move

[umbral jungle]

check your console turk

[sly basalt]

Oh god an endless stream of red text.

It doesn't stop.

I think for coop maybe expanded hotbars and the coop mod.

[glass pelican]

okay im off for a little bit ill be back later

[sly basalt]

Yeah I'm out for the night.

[umbral jungle]

why does stuff like that never happen when i test

[sly basalt]

I got 51 mods down to 13 so far. I bet I can drop even more.

[sly basalt]

It had to be the 51 mods.

Ok lets try one more time if anyone is around

[past crag]

2.0 release wow!

[umbral jungle]

https://thunderstore.io/c/erenshor/p/mizuki/Erenshor_COOP/
... i put the wrong changelog oh well
** 2.0.1**

• Fixed some errors with sims
• Fixed sim summons (hopefully)

i knew there was stuff broken i haven't seen yet

it definitely needs more time but i can't feasibly test everything by myself, and there's also edge cases

[past crag]

cool beans!

[sly basalt]

I can open my bank now

Also not getting a stream of red errors.

That's the 13 mods I'm running now for coop.

[umbral jungle]

i got an error, but im gonna pretend i didn't see it

[sly basalt]

[Error :Erenshor Coop] [Client] Player changed scene [Message:Erenshor Coop] add 1 to zone [Message:Erenshor Coop] Stowaway += 1 [Message:Erenshor Coop] assigning 0 as owner of Stowaway [Error :Erenshor Coop] Trying to send mob data..... [Error :Erenshor Coop] Trying to send mob data. 74 [Message:Erenshor Coop] Sending 63 mobs. [Error :Erenshor Coop] Trying to send mob data..... [Error :Erenshor Coop] Trying to send mob data. 74

Only errors I see.

[umbral jungle]

not real errors, just visibly made different

[sly basalt]

Good

[umbral jungle]

i can probably remove those now

done

[sly basalt]

15 mods now. Will try to keep it under 20.

[umbral jungle]

things that change stats of enemies will definitely break things, that might affect players as well too

stats of enemies aren't synced that's probably why you saw that huge health bar

[sly basalt]

I left those out. I kind of figure that.

I added back the Level Display mod and Advanced Auction House mod.

15 is a good number.

[umbral jungle]

those should definitely not pose problems

i still need to get AAH

[sly basalt]

Nothing that messes with players or mobs. Other than the Fast Travel mod maybe.

[umbral jungle]

i got the fast travel one too, i need to remove it though

i feel it's too cheaty

[sly basalt]

That I don't mind.

It's not that cheaty and it frees up bag space.

[umbral jungle]

i haven't gotten any runes

[sly basalt]

I beelined to them once I found out they existed.

[glass pelican]

when youre hosting a lobby are the multipliers decided by the host or does each individual use their own modifiers

[umbral jungle]

server settings are sent by the host, on disconnect the original settings are put back

[glass pelican]

thanks

[umbral jungle]

it's needed or the hp will desync

[glass pelican]

thats how i was hoping it worked anyway

[vernal wigeon]

Thank yooooou Mizuki ❤️ Gonna try it with my friend later and see how it all feels

[maiden basin]

Great

[vernal wigeon]

@umbral jungle This keeps happening to my friend. Whenever we go in the dungeon it clones and makes a second Sylva for some reason

(Sylvi is me, for reference!)

We then grabbed a different sim and she didn't clone. Sylva wouldn't come into the dungeon when we invited her for some reason, always had to go outside and grab them for party. Guessing it's something to do with prebuilt and generated sims? Duno

Only duplicated on the host side

[umbral jungle]

huh interesting, im not spawning sims anymore beside the ones from other players, but maybe i forgot to remove it somewhere

[vernal wigeon]

I'd give you more info if I could but that's all that happened, we just replaced her with another sim and it seems fine so far

[umbral jungle]

must be a race condition cause i havent had that happen

this is v201 yes? lobby or direct?

[vernal wigeon]

v201 and lobby yeah

Healing and everything is fixed 😄

[umbral jungle]

any error in the log?

[vernal wigeon]

In the normal chat is where it displays them? Or is there an error log popup

[umbral jungle]

also sounds like she thinks she is still in group when you invite her

[vernal wigeon]

That's the only thing she saw in the log

not sure if that's unrelated

[umbral jungle]

oh nice thanks

[vernal wigeon]

Even the steam invites work, we just tried it. You're awesome 😄

I was just joining when she hosted a lobby before but yeah, just tried the invite to rejoin.

[umbral jungle]

im sorry for the inconvenience ill look into it asap

[vernal wigeon]

You don't need to apologize, it's totally fine. ❤️ We're just playing without that sim for now and no issues, just remade and made a new party and nothing broke

[vernal wigeon]

So update! I noticed my healing on my friend (the hosts) sim players was going through then their health was reverting repeatedly, so it wasn't working. We stepped outside the dungeon to relog and got the duplication error again, so here's the log in case it helps

We cleared a dungeon and there was that, and I THINK our duelist's mana regen wasn't affecting me but I'm not sure. Also couldn't hear the sims/my friends spellcasts but that may not even be supposed to be happening in the mod yet, buut.. That's everything we saw so far! Both very thankful we got to do a dungeon together =3

And my friend (the host) said this to try to help

[wraith coyote]

you guys are just using coop nothing else?

[vernal wigeon]

Good question and I should've provided that earlier! We're using co-op and tab target by distance

and just those mods, nothin' else weird

[umbral jungle]

neat

found another bug while hunting this, don't put players into the 3rd group slot apparently

[past crag]

ohhhhhhh

[umbral jungle]

that breaks zoning

[umbral jungle]

they're not visible on clients because of this, i know that much

this error basically means they aren't assigning a correct id

but that's coming from the duplicates

[umbral jungle]

there could be an issue with sims and healing but i would need more info first,
not sure on the sounds, i thought the game did that through the effects but i guess not, i'll look into it at a later time

doesn't help that i tend to test with the game on mute

either way

https://thunderstore.io/c/erenshor/p/mizuki/Erenshor_COOP/
** v2.0.2**

• Fixed zoning breaking when a player is in the third group slot
• Fixed sims duplicating on zone entry
• Fixed a bug where the playerlist was updating icons incorrectly

[sly basalt]

I don't think this one actually works anymore. Since this was built into the game. You just can't set the distance.

[umbral jungle]

i have an idea for other players sims and zoning, i'll leave them in the group when the owner of those sims is in the group as well, but i'll do that after my "vacation"

[sly basalt]

A well deserved vacation.

[crisp vessel]

well deserved miz thank you for every thing

[crisp vessel]

there is 4 of us, just wanted to say thank you so much miz!!!

[umbral jungle]

glad to see it's working.. ish

[crisp vessel]

where to put bug reports?

[umbral jungle]

here

[umbral jungle]

we know of a bug with aggro and xp

[crisp vessel]

do u know about the bug where a dead player can not be healed by allys anymore after revive

healing doesnt seem to work in dungeon

[umbral jungle]

no we died multiple times and can still heal

[crisp vessel]

hmm when we were just playing, our tank dropped we revived him everytime he would go attack a random npc would come kill him so we full closed the game reloaded an our druid would no longer be able to heal him he could only heal himself

[crisp vessel]

so the only thing we were able to notice is host was the only one who can heal effectivly assuming its just a latency issue

druid hosted, healed everyone fine pala could only heal himself

[umbral jungle]

i can heal fine and im the client

as druid

i haven't run into any issues with that

scrubby is healing everyone too

i do get a message regarding healing though i'll look into it

omg

it looks like sims from other people can't heal players

only the current zone owners can

[past crag]

human healers only, got it! ✅

[umbral jungle]

hmm one sec maybe im wrong here

it looks like its my heal

very weird, it says i shouldn't be able to heal people

but i saw my heal working

maybe its not correct

yeah looks like i cant heal anyone

very odd cause i thought i tested it

oh well

it's fixed

[past crag]

whoa

[umbral jungle]

i didn't even notice cause it looked like my heal healed

[past crag]

that makes sense
and in testing my friend and I were just like level 3s...

[umbral jungle]

im really wondering whats causin sims to stop attacking sometimes

specifically arcs

[crisp vessel]

do we need to wait on 2.0.3?

[umbral jungle]

we got phanty in the group, works fine, as soon as we enter kraken he stops attacking

we got one of my sims in the group which works fine

but apparently the damage of enemies isn't synced correctly to sims

my mod works good

[wraith coyote]

arcs think they too good to help, inv duelist for now lol

[umbral jungle]

my hubby is the duelist tho

and we die without the cc

[wraith coyote]

😦

[umbral jungle]

found the issue

when a player in a group (not the group leader) zones while enemies are nearby, their nearby enemies list doesn't get reset and fills with nulls, now the sims ai has trouble with that, it basically breaks their entire ai thats why they stop casting

this basically happens everytime you enter krakengard and leave, because the enemies are so close to the entrance

[crisp vessel]

so still have the healing bug, i host as rogue, druid joins he sits at a steady 20ping my other 2 sit at a 90 ping an the druid cannot heal me as host but it shows the heal go off and it consumes the mana

[umbral jungle]

it's fixed in the next update

looking into why sims are not getting damage synced

then i can release

[crisp vessel]

oh gotcha my bad i thought u had rolled it out alrdy my bad

[umbral jungle]

https://thunderstore.io/c/erenshor/p/mizuki/Erenshor_COOP/
** v2.0.3**

• Fixed sims becoming a skateboard when dead
• Fixed sims not attacking under certain circumstances
• Fixed sims from players not taking damage
• Fixed sims showing two messages for gaining xp
• Fixed players not being able to heal
• Fixed clients not being removed from groups in steam lobbies
• Fixed error with wands
• Added further preventions against saving other players or sims
• Added further preventions to networked sims and players against navigation

hopefully nothing else major like this pops up

and i can finally play the game without feeling like i have to fix stuff

[crisp vessel]

miz is the best ❤️

[past crag]

yeah she is*!*

watching a pro at work (whatever it is) is always amazing

[eternal tinsel]

Might have missed it so sorry if this has been asked I play dualist with hubby pala and 1 druid sim 1 arch sim. When i cast Vithean Breeze the sims and i get it but the hubby doesn't. Is there something I need to alter for me to breeze the hub?

[crisp vessel]

I'm a dualist as well when I use it it works fine

[eternal tinsel]

It's probably something I need to alter but I've no clue what at the moment

[umbral jungle]

try target him directly, see if that fixes, just to be sure

and if it dont work let me know who is hosting

and if its steam or direct connection

[eternal tinsel]

It didn't we tried a few times 😔 I'm hosting, he joined via invite not ip and port. Not sure if that makes a difference. I've come off for today so will try again tomorrow 🙂

It's though steam invite, I'll try direct with him tomorrow ( sounds as though I'll be barking orders at him hahaha )

Thank you for the mod it's awesome

[umbral jungle]

dont worry i do the same with mine when we are testing

[zenith spear]

a fucking wizard you are! great work!

[umbral jungle]

i can't see the issue, but i rewrote the whole healing stuff just in case

[umbral jungle]

after some testing i found the issue

there's actually a small bug in the game where it doesn't show these messages anymore for mp healing

[umbral jungle]

https://thunderstore.io/c/erenshor/p/mizuki/Erenshor_COOP/
** v2.0.4 **

• Added the ability to right click->join your friends on steam
• Fixed MP healing not working, also removed the text when healing for 0
• Fixed a bug where dropped items came back when they were looted
• Fixed a bug where you were unable to click on players or sims after they died
• Fixed other players/sims being able to revive mid combat (hopefully)
• You can no longer invite players and sims outside of your level range

i just can't help working on it even during my "vacation"

[past crag]

you're unstoppable

[crisp vessel]

We're lucky go have miz an everyone

[crisp vessel]

hey miz...

[umbral jungle]

this really doesn't tell me much other than it can't find a target with id 477

everything else don't matter

those red messages usually happen when sims are created or destroyed or whatever, unity really doesn't like it when they aren't placed correctly

[umbral jungle]

unless its from one of you attacking something? but this might just be desync

it just tells me either a mob or a player attacked a mob, and it cant find it

i don't know what else you want me to look at

[crisp vessel]

oh ok i didnt know what it ment

[eternal tinsel]

Thank you its all sorted 🙂

[umbral jungle]

glad to hear

[umbral jungle]

4 bugs currently that im working on fixing:

• Very rarely zoning breaks and you can get stuck in a black screen (i literally zoned like 100+ times before it happened) ()
• Transfering ownership of a zone isn't working correctly and it will break for the previous owner ()
• Sometimes sims stay active in a previous zone when the owner of the sims leaves the zone ()
• Sometimes sims stay invisible to others (this might be fixed with the previous one)

except the zoning black screen thing everything can be fixed by just zoning again

[crisp vessel]

miz when u use the term "sim" are u referring to player and bot alike

[umbral jungle]

sims are sims

i refer to players as players

[umbral jungle]

https://thunderstore.io/c/erenshor/p/mizuki/Erenshor_COOP/
** v2.0.5 **

• Fixed rare bug where you would get stuck with a black screen after zoning
• Fixed other players sims staying active after they zoned
• Fixed complaints about spawn data missing for mobs when you zone quickly
• Fixed other sims/players in different zones attacking mobs spamming the log
• Fixed players and sims still being in aggro lists after they zone
• Fixed zone ownership transfer being broken (hopefully)
• Fixed sims that have been removed from group still acting like they are in the group
• Fixed a bug where you could not respawn if a player in your group already respawned
  • Will not work if they respawn on the same map you died on
• Added additional checks so players health is less likely to desync
• Removed auto heal on other players/sims/mobs

[umbral jungle]

there is a bug currently where sims get kicked out of the group for other players that are not the leader
there also seems to be one where sims don't wanna spawn

[umbral jungle]

both fixed cause they were the same thing

[umbral jungle]

tiny player markers

[umbral jungle]

https://thunderstore.io/c/erenshor/p/mizuki/Erenshor_COOP/
** v2.0.6**

• Fixed sims sometimes not appearing (hopefully)
• Fixed sims being removed from group for other players
• Fixed sims not respawning with the player (hopefully)
• Fixed client settings not being saved
• Added additional checks so sims health is less likely to desync
• Added player markers!
  • Can be turned off in the settings
  • By default only group members have off-screen markers

off screen markers look like this

they point to players not on your screen

my hubby and i kept loosing eachother so i had to add something

[past crag]

awesome!!

[crisp vessel]

miz i uh, really broke the game

[umbral jungle]

[crisp vessel]

permission to dm? lol

[umbral jungle]

course

[hazy gyro]

Mizuki, been loosely following your mod and while I’m still not well informed seems like it’s come a long way at light speed. Is it true you can just steam invite people now to join your session and as long as they have the mod it will work??

[umbral jungle]

yes

[hazy gyro]

That’s fucking rad :)

going to get into this asap. Thank you

[umbral jungle]

i haven't done a session with the newest version yet so i don't know what bugs there are, besides one that got reported which isn't really tooooo important to fix

[hazy gyro]

When I first got the game and joined this discord, maybe two weeks ago tops, you had an early version of the mod which required port forwarding etc. it’s just cool to see how fast this thing went from like early stages to extremely accessible :)

I’ll def be able to convince some buddies to get the game on this I bet

If I can it’s like your mod is driving some sales haha

[umbral jungle]

i think it took me almost 3 weeks to get the steam stuff working in a releasable state, and there's still bugs popping up because of the huge amount of changes i made

[hazy gyro]

still impressive

[umbral jungle]

since i haven't heard from @crisp vessel i assume stuff is working reasonably now though

afaik he's playing with 3 other people

[crisp vessel]

We played on 2.0.5 worked really well

Haven't been on coop for 2.0.6

[umbral jungle]

ah yeah makes sense, you wouldn't encounter the sim bugs

hopefully you'll enjoy the markers

[crisp vessel]

We dumped about 45hrs in got to || jaws of sivakayan || and kinda breaking now playing a private server of dragons dogma since it never came west

We still wanna grind to current bis, but the tab target and tank n spank tactics kinda getting old atm not much we fear lol

[crisp vessel]

lol ^ i told miz about that alrdy

i didnt wanna make it public

but guess it is

[vernal wigeon]

Oh oops, I can delete it

[umbral jungle]

does it really matter if you can just use dev commands and give yourself items? i kinda cant fix it until some major thing pops up

[vernal wigeon]

I guess not. 😛 Didn't think about that

[umbral jungle]

👀

[umbral jungle]

https://thunderstore.io/c/erenshor/p/mizuki/Erenshor_COOP/
** v2.0.7 **

• Lobbies and direct connections are now being closed when the game is exited
• You can no longer interact with left-click while a prompt is open
• Changed error logs that aren't errors to non-errors

definitely not changing random things to fix that exploit nooo

[maiden basin]

Good 👍

[umbral jungle]

https://thunderstore.io/c/erenshor/p/mizuki/Erenshor_COOP/
** v2.0.9 **

• Added missing effect

** v2.0.8 **

• Fixed color changes in the settings not working
• Fixed sims being really clingy even when telling them to stay put
• Fixed sims being set to the wrong zone when spawned (again)
• Fixed a bug where sims were being removed on zone ownership change
• Fixed an error that appeared when entities changed gear while being in a different zone
• All entities are now sending periodic hp and mp updates
• Level up effects are now played for other players and sims
• Status Effects are now properly being updated
• Moved message telling you that you have different mods to the bottom

[umbral jungle]

bug: sims disappear again for non group leaders

[umbral jungle]

nvm just don't use this update

it's ass

im only having issues with it rn

[umbral jungle]

https://thunderstore.io/c/erenshor/p/mizuki/Erenshor_COOP/
** v2.0.10**

• Fixed mobs periodic update which was using mp for health..
• Fixed sims disappearing from group.. again
• Fixed quality of charm slots not being synced
• Mobs now send an additional health update when they die

[umbral jungle]

syncing some battle messages

[past crag]

(I just realized reading that how close your main and my alt account's testing character Vank's names are lol)

[umbral jungle]

valkyrie is already taken, valk is my main

or was

[past crag]

ah cool

for years I've had a Google Doc of names I've thought of, to use for future RPGs
"Vank" is one I put a note "for dagger users" ;-)

so... Duelist =)

[crisp vessel]

not a bad idea lol, altho i only ever use 2 names haha. sometimes 3
Vexir(for my tank/metal user) Wylder(for my nature/rogue user) and Kain for my all around but hardly comes to use

[past crag]

that's great, I'm an altoholic and get too into creating characters 🤣
it started with little notes on my desk for ages until I got smart

but yeah, Jinx is my go-to and Tricky for female characters

[umbral jungle]

we had a bit of an issue with the duskenlight portal

it's not synced

double the amount of waves is fun

[crisp vessel]

Fiona has always been mine(pre shrek release lol) yes im that old too

[crisp vessel]

i tryed telling u the other day lol

[past crag]

hate when pop culture makes you not want to use something you've been for ages

[umbral jungle]

well it's in there now

[crisp vessel]

nice

[umbral jungle]

might see release tomorrow if nothing else pops up

[crisp vessel]

isnt there 3 portals? or is 3 sync'd just 1 n 2 had issues?- edit- i cant read

[umbral jungle]

3 is just using spawn triggers

the other two are using custom wave/spawn scripts specific to them

[crisp vessel]

ah gotcha

[umbral jungle]

[umbral jungle]

hard to see but there's albinos there, which clients wouldn't see before

[placid flint]

3 albino spawns is alarming

its hard to find even one

[umbral jungle]

i set the rate to 100 because i got tired of waiting

[placid flint]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-hacking-silly-cat-hacker-cat-hacker-gif-14852445362476137270

[umbral jungle]

[placid flint]

you're instant killing them too?

[umbral jungle]

don't worry, we found 3 in 2 hours, but i think we got more kings

[umbral jungle]

course how else are they gonna spawn the rares if the non rares are still alive

[placid flint]

the /killall command is amazing

poor NPCs though

[umbral jungle]

im unsure if it would work with coop

[placid flint]

teammate dies

[umbral jungle]

looks like it does

[umbral jungle]

https://thunderstore.io/c/erenshor/p/mizuki/Erenshor_COOP/
** v2.1.0 **

• Astra spawn is now synced
• Some battle text is now synced
• Mysterious Portal (1) is now synced
• Mysterious Portal (2) is now synced
• Spawn Triggers are now synced (part of Mysterious Portal (3))
• Fixed using teleport runes duplicating npcs (hopefully)
• Added tighter check for when sims don't spawn
• Rewrote spawnpoint sync for more accurate spawns
• Fixed a bug where players sometimes didn't connect correctly
• Fixed spell errors appearing when not actively connected
• Fixed sims still trying to be skateboards

[umbral jungle]

portal 2 is still a bit buggy it seems

@placid flint why'd you make it so hard to sync why aren't they using spawn points like the rest of the game

[placid flint]

its just objects voming out NPCs right?

i dont even remember what i did

This week has been a lot of rewriting things, hopefully i'm not breaking too much for you

[umbral jungle]

nah the boss and stuff that's already there not the spawners

the spawners are easy

you just placed them instead of using spawn points like you usually do

i'll get it working right eventually though

[placid flint]

oh, i do that from time to time when quickly mocking things up, I can put them on spawn points

if thats all it is

its going to be a long time before I update the live build again though

[umbral jungle]

gonna be fun to find out what broke

[placid flint]

you'll have it on the playtest branch prior to that

[umbral jungle]

simple version check

[umbral jungle]

https://thunderstore.io/c/erenshor/p/mizuki/Erenshor_COOP/
** v2.1.1 **

• Fixed more skateboarding, they just don't stop the little rascals
• Fixed Mysterious Portal (2) breaking when you re-enter (hopefully)
• Fixed getting double xp when reconnecting and joining the same group
• Added version check
  • Notifies you when a new version is available in the combat log

[maiden basin]

Maybe in the future there will be a multiplayer mod

[umbral jungle]

but this is multiplayer 👀

[maiden basin]

But like MMO

[zenith spear]

you can apparently have up to 100 i dont think steam supports that many tho

[crisp vessel]

if only there was a way to "turn off sims"?

or limit what sims follow the player

[umbral jungle]

100 is the limit on steam lobbies, thats why i picked that number

theres no limit with direct connect

[umbral jungle]

elaborate?

[crisp vessel]

Say 5 or 6 humans join up....thats alotts sims every where obviously not all will be needed

[zenith spear]

wait thats fucking insane!

man if pla yer choice and options weer an MMO this would be it!

[placid flint]

This mod needs a mod so people can play it solo!

[umbral jungle]

b..but 600 sims? how can you say no to 6 brocks or scrubbies?

i'll add a limit eventually though

[finite heath]

Wait you can play with up to 100 people now in a lobby or did I miss read that?

[umbral jungle]

there never was a limit on with how many people you could play with, with steam there is though, but that's on steams side not mine so i do have to put that limit there

[surreal hearth]

hey there. i think ive been running into a bug with co op where im arcanist hosting and my friend druid joins

the duelists in our group never gain exp ever

our paladin will but duelist doesnt. its been this way with every duelist invited to group since the island

[umbral jungle]

try putting your friend last into group

[umbral jungle]

oh i see what you mean sorry i was still in bed

i think there's a bug where it either doesn't display it or it just flat out doesn't work im not sure but i'll look into it

[surreal hearth]

ill try and pay attention today if they ever level up