Many of the shields in game are useable by arcanists and druids but they cannot benefit from the 'on bash' mechanic so this just turns these items into stat sticks. There are also a few shields which ONLY Druid and Arcanist can use, the most notable one being Magus Shield which has an on bash mechanic that cannot be utilized by either of the classes that can use it. Not sure if this is the route that you want to be taken but just thought I would point it out in case it isn't.
#potential shield oversight
finite shuttle
maybe changing some of the caster shields that use on bash to use the on cast mechanic could be something to explore?
brisk garden
I agree with those suggestions related to the caster shield changes too. It makes sense.
remote ember
on the radar, but will require some work to change, keeping open
supple bear
Can't it be utilized by blocking. The tool tip says that it will trigger the effects.
Might still want to look at it, but my reaction was "oh cool, the shield class (pally) can trigger on bash, but all shield equippable classes can benefit from the effect through the block skill".
I also immediately thought "well that probably means those proca won't happen too often"
finite shuttle
Can't it be utilized by blocking. The tool tip says that it will trigger the eff...
Which tool tip says blocking triggers the effect? I don’t think I’ve seen that
supple bear
When I highlighted the book I thought it said that. I'm prone to error, so I might have read it wrong.
Also to be clear I bought the game yesterday and don't even have the skill learned, so I was going off a description only, if I remembered correctly
finite shuttle
When I highlighted the book I thought it said that. I'm prone to error, so I mig...
Is this what you're referring to?
the 'can proc shield ability'
supple bear
Yeah that's what I'm referencing
finite shuttle
you may be correct ill test, you learn something new everyday with this game
supple bear
Neat
I just found this game, but it seems like this could be my next few hundred gaming hours
finite shuttle
I just found this game, but it seems like this could be my next few hundred gami...
definitely the kind of game you can pour 100s of hours into
so I did some testing and you're 100% correct the block passive does trigger these effects but the frequency seems to be very very low
like maybe 1/30 successful block hits
tested with paladin and druid
remote ember
which shield
finite shuttle
I tested with the sivakayan shield and slab of meteorite
finite shuttle
yes
finite shuttle
I'll test again and count exact numbers
remote ember
the math is pretty simple, rolls 1d900 (take that D&D) if the roll is < % chance on bash, it procs on block
would be neat to scale it off int to give casters a better chance
finite shuttle
35 blocks that time
remote ember
i dont see any harm in tuning it up a bit
i just dont want raid targets to be stunlocked
supple bear
Well if it's a reactionary proc it can only happen as fast as the monster can trigger potential blocks times the percent.
Seems like the stun locks shouldn't be an issue from this mechanic unless monsters have AoEs that could trigger multiple people to block?
remote ember
higher level paladins get quite a few blocks
finite shuttle
I also assume blocking the raid creatures attack will also be more of a challenge in general cause of their stats, unless stats dont play apart in the block chance
supple bear
So it's block chance % times the % chance to trigger?
Yeah I am clueless and it's your game just talking out loud
remote ember
they do theres a few rolls involved
also
raid creatures probably will be relatively hard to stun
so theres that too
i cannot type tonight
finite shuttle
you could do a stagger mechanic where they need to be stunned X amount of times before they actually get stunned
supple bear
Do you have to successfully block to have a chance to trigger the mechanic, or does it trigger separate from the block percentage? If it's percentage times percentage that's way different
finite shuttle
Do you have to successfully block to have a chance to trigger the mechanic, or d...
for me it only triggers when the combat log says you blocked the attack
remote ember
Do you have to successfully block to have a chance to trigger the mechanic, or d...
yeah you have to successfully block
i found that wild aggro bug that happened in the portal yesterday
working through that one tonight
finite shuttle
i found that wild aggro bug that happened in the portal yesterday
the trying to kill the dead person bug?
remote ember
yeah
supple bear
yeah you have to successfully block
Then his 1/30 or whatever makes a ton of sense, if he has to succeed in block first then trigger an 8% trigger