#Bjornixus Earlygamelife

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cold shore
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Hello, I pulled Teshar how does this change the Route in the guides? Could I try to aim for a stronger Giants team earlier?

vast viper
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it doesnt

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?isitgood

young kelpBOT
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Unlike other similar games, you can't use a single strong monster or team to carry you through beginner content. Each dungeon has specialized mechanics that force you to build different teams. Our ⁠⁠#guides show you the fastest and easiest way to clear everything using farmable monsters that are better for PvE than any rare nat 5 you can summon. Save these nat 5s for later when you get to PvP!

See ?nat5explained in #bot-commands for more information.

cold shore
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mhh I just saw a lot of people running teshar in their teams so i thought i could pull it off but going for the safer and more consistent teams is probably better until i get to go teshar speed teams

vast viper
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just because you can or see someone else do it, doesnt make it a good idea

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all the monster we recommend using in #guides are used in other pieces as well throughout the guides

cold shore
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Ahhh I see, so Teshar would be a strong build for giant but as all the other ones in the guides are used in multiple gamemodes its better to aim for those instead

vast viper
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pulling teshar just means that, at the moment, you know that you able to build the ?teshgbah team down the road

cold shore
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amazing, thank you

cold shore
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maybe i overread it, but i dont max lapis skill right?

low remnant
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right

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?devilmon

young kelpBOT
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For New Players

  • Veromos > Spectra 2A

    • Save the rest of your Devilmons for PvP

  • Raoq 2A > Vigor 2A

    • Make 2A dupes to max skill these monsters instead of Devilmons

  • Galleon will be skilled up via the free nat 4 skill ups from ?nat4event event

    • Remaining skill ups from event are saved till ready for PvP

✥ Nat 5★ monsters are generally prioritized with devilmon. However, there are 4★ monsters which require skill-ups and are worth devilmoning for PVP. When you are working on PvP and figuring out which Nat 4★ to skill up, open a thread in while sharing your box for suggestions on deviling.

low remnant
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these are the only monsters you should max skill in pve. ideally avoid using devilmons if you can

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Also dont take the max skillup rewards from summoner way

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Because otheriwse they expire in mail

cold shore
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thank you very much

cold shore
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belladeon doenst need the second awakening right?

young kelpBOT
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jx9

[Message Link](#1404892146007543938 message) to #1404892146007543938
The Recommended Progression Path

As you're going through this, refer to the commands in #guides for more detailed information such any specific turn order or stat requirements for the teams. Those commands are also a great place to start if you're a returning player and looking for updated teams in specific dungeons, rather than a whole guide from the beginning.

As you start farming GBAH and trying to figure out what runes to keep or sell, refer to #1278187593594572841 for our rune guide.

The rest of the guide here will focus on showing example monster builds and discussing common questions and issues.

Req. by bjornixus. Quote from ·
cold shore
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so i go kro --> Spectra --> raoq --> vigor --> howl

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for second awakens?

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?qol

young kelpBOT
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# Quality of Life Commands :

  • ?evolving Explains how to evolve monsters
  • ?nat4event Summoners war pick a natural 4 star event
  • ?mana How to save mana
  • ?devilmon First few monsters to use devilmon on
  • ?reapp Reappraisal Stones and what to use them on
  • ?acc Basic accuracy needed for content
  • ?accuracy Explanation about accuracy and resistance
  • ?artifactsinfo Gives more info about artifacts
  • ?dholeinfo 2nd awaken teams and other useful dhole info
  • ?statshare How you should be sharing your monsters)
cold shore
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found it in the guides

cold shore
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for the ?nbah is there a stat threshold for the first team with abigail?

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cuz i couldnt find one, i know icaru needs like +2400 defense or something to fully get the teamup

knotty jay
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?nbah

young kelpBOT
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Necro Abyss Hard

  • Teams and Turn Order:

    1. Abigail(L) > 2aIcaru > 2aRaoq > Astar > 2aShamann (average 1 minute)
    2. Julie > Shaina > Sabrina > 2aIcaru > Astar (35-40 seconds)

  • Conditions

    • Boss focus: Midboss, Imprisoned Soul > Boss
    • Boss applies a 3 hit shield to the taken monster
    • Combat Speed is capped and Attack Bar Manipulation skills do NOT work at the boss wave

  • Requirements

    • 2aIcaru: 100K+ EHP, 35% acc faster than 169 cmb spd
    • Damage Dealers: (Everyone Else) 100k EHP, damage dealers 100% CR, faster than 169 cmb spd, 35% acc if they have debuffs (slow, att/def break)
    • Vio is ideal but not needed. Try to get Abigail on Vio first if you are short on Vio runes
    • Astar does NOT need vamp
    • Astar and 2aShamann dont have a min cmb spd requirement
    • 2aIcaru needs 3301 def to bring 3 monsters for team up and 35 acc
    • Yes, you can awaken your Abigail

  • Abigail substitutes: unawakened (fire/light) cannon girl > loren

  • Team 2 Stats: located in #pve-team-showcase message

knotty jay
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Wdym u can’t find it

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It’s in the command

cold shore
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jesus christ im blind my bad

cold shore
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Is there anyone i should build right now that im missing?

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knotty jay
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It doesn’t work like that

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You don’t build stuff just to build it

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You should always be working towards a goal

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You build a specific team to use into a specific team

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If you’re done with PvE u can start working on PvP teams mentioned in the guides

cold shore
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makes sense, i guess i wanna get stronger and more consistent pve teams first before going for pvp stuff

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havent done the r5 stuff yet

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and i dont really know what to afk farm tbh, if its giants or necro or dragon or actually work on grinds and gemstones

knotty jay
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You will be farming giants for the entire PvE phase

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For runes

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And u should aim to have every rune you’re using to be fully grinded/gemmed

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Don’t bother making speed teams or PvP teams before you’re fully done with every step in the PvE part of the guide

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The teams are placed in a very specific order, it’s not just random

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Like yeah you have some great pvp monsters that you could build but it won’t be usable for you anyways

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Finish pve then build your fat lushen and work from there

cold shore
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what runes do i actually want from giants? isnt violent best for a lot of pve teams?

knotty jay
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This is also discussed in the guides

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The mantra for pve is stats -> sets

cold shore
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probably missed that then

knotty jay
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Giants has the most stat sets

cold shore
knotty jay
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Read the guides again and it will become clear

cold shore
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i shall do that then, thank you

knotty jay
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You’re expected to refer to the guides when you have questions, then if it’s still unclear u can ask about it here NekoThumbsUp

cold shore
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Alright will do

knotty jay
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Might not be the case for you but it’s smth u can look out for

cold shore