Not exactly understanding RTA team building | Summoners War | Page 1

stuck lichen Jun 23, 2025, 5:21 AM

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So I'm just getting back into Summoner's War (again after dropping it for a few months, as i usually do cause i feel directionless with my account atm and id like to do RTA but i don't even know how to start) and I went to watch the SeanB video about making a core team but i have issues with the video.

For one, he says everyone's box is different and that we don't necessarily have to copy core teams he shows or what people give as examples and that we should play whats right for our us, but he then shows us we can look at "Best replays" and copy some core teams from them. I thought the entire purpose was to learn how to make a Core, not copy it?

Second, how do i start? Do i look at a Nat 5 I have in my storage and find if someone is playing with it? What if no one is using it or they are all losing with that monster or they are all low ranked? What if i don't have the monsters they are using with it if they win their match? Do i need to focus on 1 monster? Should it be a focus on a synergy between 2? How do I determine in my box what is a good combo? A lot of the same units are being spammed so how can i even use the replay system to find a start to my core team? What if all of my units aren't really used all that much in RTA? How do i cobble together a working strategy?

He also very quickly goes into drafting theory and im not sure if that's also part of team buildinig or not, but im stil not even sure what units i should even look at first to get to that step? It might be me or something but I really don't understand how I am supposed to realistically start my journey to making a core team of my own. Is it just throwing random monsters into RTA without looking at synergy and seeing how they perform? I just dont feel like the guide....guides me step by step. It just feels like a general concepts video.

snow snow Jun 23, 2025, 5:25 AM

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Slow down. First question to answer is if you have completed pve. Have you?

stuck lichen Jun 23, 2025, 5:28 AM

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I don't think so. Though im pretty sure i was asked this and that about just ended the conversation right then and there

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as in i said no, was told then do your pve and don't concern yourself with RTA, and then yea that was all they were gonna talk to me about

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I say this cause as important as pve is, the grind to make a team for pve is time consuming and uninteresting, as I also kinda just waffled around for 6 years cause i didn't really know how to progress my account or just didn't cause i never knew when I should attempt other content

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But also for the RTA issue, knowing what my potential units are for pvp doesn't affect my ability to do pve, it just gives me a goal to work towards in my eyes

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well besides finishing pve content but thats already a given

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My point is I wanna learn how to team build...not how to get more nat 5s in my collection so I can copy a meta comp everyone is already using, defeating the purpose of "creating a core team"

pure sedge Jun 23, 2025, 5:44 AM

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pve is the tutorial for this game

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[completing pve] is not a grind at all lol if you think it is then this game isn't for you. and that's ok. this game isn't for most people

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if you know what you're doing it takes as little as 1 week to complete all of pve now. if you're completely new to this game 2-3 weeks is reasonable

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you ask how do you even realistically start your journey to making a core team? yea it's to play the game and start to understand what monsters do, what stats certain monsters need to fulfill their role, how different units and skills interact with each other

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the same monsters skills and runes appear in pve as pvp

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and all of this isn't even to mention that you need to be able to do pve to farm the runes to even play any pvp. it's not possible to separate out runes from team building. if you want to try then you're just super inexperienced, delusional, and wanting this game to be something it's really not (again... this game doesn't sound like it's for you)

stuck lichen Jun 23, 2025, 5:49 AM

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pure sedge [completing pve] is not a grind at all lol if you think it is then this game isn...

isnt a grind by design?

pure sedge Jun 23, 2025, 5:50 AM

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this game is a grind

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finishing pve is not a grind

stuck lichen Jun 23, 2025, 5:50 AM

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im confused what you mean by that

pure sedge Jun 23, 2025, 5:50 AM

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if you're stuck on the tutorial

stuck lichen Jun 23, 2025, 5:50 AM

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if the game is a grind then doing the tutorial is also a grind no?

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cause the tutorial is part of the game

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Also to the understanding what monsters do, i can do that by just reading their skills in the collection database

pure sedge Jun 23, 2025, 5:51 AM

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you're just super inexperienced, delusional, and wanting this game to be something it's really not

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ok and this is starting to go beyond just this game lol

stuck lichen Jun 23, 2025, 5:52 AM

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I don't understand what you mean by this

pure sedge Jun 23, 2025, 5:52 AM

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you sound super delusional in real life

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this goes for any game or skill out there

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wtf

stuck lichen Jun 23, 2025, 5:52 AM

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How am i being delusional?

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and in what way does saying that help me exactly?

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cause also as an aside saying im delusional in real life is a literal attack on me from my perspective as well so I'm trying to understand why it was necessary to tell me this

acoustic storm Jun 23, 2025, 5:56 AM

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before u start rta (regarded as late game content) u should focus on pve because runes are everything. Doesnt matter how good u pick and ban or have really op units. U need a min. rune quality to at least have a chance to win. To archive that you have to at least clear the pve content.

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If u still down own a gb12 team dont bother thats all

stuck lichen Jun 23, 2025, 5:56 AM

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well i do have that at least

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and it farms it 100%

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does the whole "finding a core team" thing count as starting rta?

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Cause im assuminig even while doing rta im still farming Giants anyways, right?

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Lets say i lied and said yea, I've done all pve and i wanna start rta. What would be the next thing to be said?

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Cause for me this is more of an understanding thing rather than im gonna go right now and start on RTA cause like you said its gonna remind me very quickly that im not even close to ready to play in it

acoustic storm Jun 23, 2025, 6:00 AM

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if u just started, basically anything is possible. No need for meta stuff. Rune quality carries

stuck lichen Jun 23, 2025, 6:00 AM

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and even then....i can just be content with staying low ranked in RTA just so I can experience it

acoustic storm Jun 23, 2025, 6:01 AM

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Pick out the monster u like and make a comp around it. Is it t1 or t2 that u like and start

stuck lichen Jun 23, 2025, 6:01 AM

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Seanb said your box determinse that no?

acoustic storm Jun 23, 2025, 6:01 AM

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Yes and no, u got the f2p units that everyone have access to

stuck lichen Jun 23, 2025, 6:02 AM

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oh hmm

acoustic storm Jun 23, 2025, 6:02 AM

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the rune quality can at best make u get to f3 and yes there was a video where Seanb made it to c3 but its really hard

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c1*

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u can have access by clicking at the corner left bottom next to the emojis at the rta interface

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by saying individual box he means, since its a gatcha everyone has access to different playstylea

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U need for example Oliver for control or Tomoe for debuff comps. So u need to taylor your playstlye based on your box

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Some units are mandatory or must have

stuck lichen Jun 23, 2025, 6:05 AM

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based on the playstyle i assume?

acoustic storm Jun 23, 2025, 6:05 AM

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yes

stuck lichen Jun 23, 2025, 6:05 AM

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gotcha ok i think i understand a little

acoustic storm Jun 23, 2025, 6:05 AM

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Since u just want to casually play around u can basically play anything as long as ur rune quality supports it

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once u really climb higher and its difficult to improve with only rune quality u can start to try meta teams or even stuff that works for you besides runes

stuck lichen Jun 23, 2025, 6:06 AM

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So like for example, a couple mons i use a lot and like is Bellanus and Amelia (mostly cause she's new but i like how she operates)

acoustic storm Jun 23, 2025, 6:07 AM

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bellanus was fire Druid right?

stuck lichen Jun 23, 2025, 6:07 AM

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uh yea yea

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i guess i like the transformers lol

acoustic storm Jun 23, 2025, 6:07 AM

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u can try a snail cleave, its old but is a lot of fun

stuck lichen Jun 23, 2025, 6:07 AM

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same with Chakra, the wind indra

acoustic storm Jun 23, 2025, 6:07 AM

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basically u try to surive t1 and cleave them with bellanus

stuck lichen Jun 23, 2025, 6:08 AM

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I guess Chakra is turn 1 since his whole thing is speed?

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and Bellanus and Amelia are more tanky and are turn 2?

acoustic storm Jun 23, 2025, 6:11 AM

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yea and no, based on how u rune them u can make t1 or t2 work. Its based on how u like to play ur game. Normally its easier to play t2 since its easier to rune, since ur main focus is not spd.

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Theree are units are a better on t1 or t2 but there are units like Bellanus that can be played in both playstyles.

stuck lichen Jun 23, 2025, 6:12 AM

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I do like Bellanus a lot

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and yea i see why he said its a bit complicated

acoustic storm Jun 23, 2025, 6:12 AM

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I would recommend to look up snail teams from SeanBs older videos

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Snail cleave*

stuck lichen Jun 23, 2025, 6:12 AM

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why is it called snail cleave?

acoustic storm Jun 23, 2025, 6:13 AM

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And i am not talking about pick and ban yet

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xD

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because its a slow cleave

stuck lichen Jun 23, 2025, 6:13 AM

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ah

acoustic storm Jun 23, 2025, 6:13 AM

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normally u cleave with a t1 comp

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But u endure the t1 from enemy and then cleave

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Its more difficult nowdays becuase there are way more aoe strips nowdays with a bigger monster pool

stuck lichen Jun 23, 2025, 6:14 AM

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ah i see i was gonna say. How is it an old thing? It sounds like an ok strategy but yea if thats the case i see the downside

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but i don't hate the sound of shrugging off my opponent and taking them down

acoustic storm Jun 23, 2025, 6:15 AM

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if u own haegang tho

stuck lichen Jun 23, 2025, 6:15 AM

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oh does that flip the script entirely?

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is it now a t1 comp?

acoustic storm Jun 23, 2025, 6:15 AM

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basically yes

stuck lichen Jun 23, 2025, 6:16 AM

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right ok. I remember reading Haegang and thinking that it looked so broken no wonder i see so many people use him

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cause if he goes first he's strong and even second his passive lets your team cut

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Thank you for helping me out. I understand much more about this now that someone explained it, even if it wasn't necessary to do so.

acoustic storm Jun 23, 2025, 6:18 AM

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honestly just read his description and u can ask again if u sont underetand xD

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no worries, just ask.

stuck lichen Jun 23, 2025, 6:20 AM

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gotcha

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still I appreciate you at least not calling me delusional or making me feel bad while im trying to gain understanding

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thats all im saying

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But fr I will try and complete all the pve for sure

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6 years of not finishing a tutorial does look pretty maddening

acoustic storm Jun 23, 2025, 6:40 AM

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your welcome 🙂 honestly the person before seems like a really helpful person on othere threats but Idk just because one is frustrated doesnt mean u get the right to become rude lol. But I am also realtively new on this discord.

Yea just play the game like how u want to and dont forget to enjoy it. Sw is inheritely a grind game so there are a lot of sweaters like me xD

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